Hi friends it's me here :) Thank you with all of my heart for your kindness and compassion while I have been taking some time to heal. I posted a quick update at 05:19 for those asking, and I can't wait to come back fully very soon. I am so honored to be part of this beautiful community we have created. Sending all my love and gratitude! Talk soon! CORRECTION Re: Brook and Paige. They and others were members of ALDC and had a relationship with Abby before the show, with the exception of Cathy and Vivi! > Download Murder In the Alps game for FREE here: nrdc.link/SWOOP > OMG! Get your new Petty University VALID apparel here! : bit.ly/PettyUniversity > New on my 2nd channel: th-cam.com/video/0ehcBvcnQW4/w-d-xo.html > Instagram: bit.ly/3uXM1xC > Twitter: bit.ly/3mWpeQ5 > TikTok: @ Swoopswoopswoop
Your honesty and uplifting words about trauma honestly helped me understand a bad situation that I was in. I'm out now and working on my own healing journey. Thank you for being you and being brave enough to confront the hard stuff. 💝
Oh my god Swoop, I'm so sorry for what happened to you, Ive been in an abusive relationship before and I'm praying for your healing, I love you to death Swoop, you have helped me so much through everything I've been through and I cant thank you enough for it. I wish you the best and the best healing, take all the time you need to heal, we will be here for you. You are amazing Swoop. Hang in there
@@PettyUniversity so happy to see the update, you do a lot of good, and I hope you feel the love through all this. So many of us, unfortunately have various horrible experiences, but hopefully we can all support each other here.
I am a mental health worker, I have had a couple clients now bring you up and how they felt affirmed by your talks when things like this come up in your channel and saying it is not their fault. You are a wonderful person and I am glad you are getting the support you need.
I can handle strict teaching. Cruel teaching is unexceptable. She was cruel to them. And she wonders why the OG girls don’t speak to her as well as takes no accountability.
Yes! I teach music. I have high expectations and don't hold back information when it comes to what needs improvement. But there are ways to do so that don't involve hurling abuse and insults. You can respect your students and still get them to improve their performance.
To a much lesser extent she reminds me of my first year middle school drama teacher. She would berate us to tears over a small mistake and never apologise for it or even give us more than a “Well atleast there’s improvement “ if she had been strict but fair we would’ve learned and performed much better then we ended out performing.
Honestly, same. I learned martial arts as a teen and the classes were very intense and there was strict decorum you had to follow. However, actually putting a student in danger, verbally berating them, or injuring them on purpose was not permitted. In the rare case that a student didn't listen, discipline was handled through strick enforcement of decorum or additional work.
What’s even weirder, is all the moms that just sat back and watched their kids treated like that. Sick. Sick. Sick. All the former dance mom kids have bad feelings towards Abby, explainable… but their anger should also be geared towards their “dance moms” too. As a mother, it’s our job to protect our babies from harmful or toxic situations. These mothers did not do that. At all.
It’s because we as a society put the responsibility on the parent. So it’s not our fault that a kid is being abused even though we’re watching it for entertainment, it’s the parent’s fault. I feel like a lot of people don’t intervene in abuse situations because we leave it up to the parents. Even if the parents are the abusers or enabling it.
Honestly i cant imagine being the parent when A) when grown ass woman can say this about a highschool BOY isn't/wasnt taken as a grown man said it about a highschool girl.. B) its feeling like so many youtubers/people with a following/fame. Tries to sleep with 15-17 year olds. I don't have any kids and im nauseated by at all.
I was shocked that she doubled down instead of clarifying “I mean if I were a high schooler, I would be obsessed with high school athletes, I guess I want to go back to my youth!”
In entertainment you’re meant to have your parents as well as agent/manager looking out for you (and you can’t legally sign), so you can’t be taken advantage of. That goes out the window with reality TV where all the usual rules surrounding performers are basically non-existent. I had an agent who was a LOT like Abby and I was fortunate that I had parents who weren’t exploitative and I was the Maddie of my agency. If I had exploitative parents and wasn’t her favourite who knows how miserable I would have been. It was rough enough experiencing the kids around me (many of whom were friends or went to school with me) get absolutely mercilessly blasted by her while praising me. I get flashbacks watching Dance Moms. At least she always looked after my auditions and contracts to protect me, unlike Abby.
@@Geospasmic yes…and that’s 100% the parents fault there. The thing is…no matter how vile Miller might have been it’s the parents who put their kids in that situation and continued to put their kids in that situation….over and over. And it was the producers who hired all of them.
Jojo was on contract with her tour to do 26 shows, then they kept adding more & more little by little (she was even the youngest person to ever play at the O2 Arena in London) until she ended it with a whopping *132 fucking shows total!* When she initially agreed to *only 26!* She was only 16…. Just so wild to me. I totally agree, if they themselves cannot give informed consent then there should not be any contracts allowed.
As someone who was married to an ex-dancer and worked in IDTA credited dance festivals, I can honestly say Dance Mom's is not unique in how kids are treated. And it becomes pervasive, the dancers become parents who pass the same thing down to the children. After a year, I walked away from it all, its disgusting
Thanks for your insight, every time I see clips from this show I wonder how anyone can put up with that. If I entrusted my child to someone and they spoke to/treated him that way I’d never go back. I can’t fathom it.
I was a competitive dancer for 10 years. I had three grown adults duct tape my bare boobs to my bare chest because a male judge said “they were moving too much”. I will never ever let my kids dance if I can help it. Absolutely destroyed my body image.
Same thing with figure skating. Walk into any competitive rink and there’s at least one Abby Lee Miller, if not more. Unfortunately, she is not anything new or unique and neither is the dynamic between the kids and coaches.
I grew up in non-competitive dance and I have seen so many toxic and abusive teachers. I only realized how messed up some of the things I heard were when, as a grown up, I told my friends and they were all shocked.
My little sister used to attend some of the dance competitions that her studio also attended as we are a two hour drive out from Pittsburgh, and a large number of competitions come to that area. They always had issues with the girls and Abby Lee during the competitions, including her stealing idea's from the studio my sister intended. One of their competition dances was called jet set, based around flight attendants. She stole the idea and put it out to the world under the exact same name with very similar costumes and music. They would steal large spaces in the dressing rooms which was being used by everyone competing that weekend, leaving many of the other groups to huddle in a corner with barely enough space to keep their makeup kits in the room. On top of this, at one of the competitions the family was allowed to watch one of the classes through the door. I was about 13 at the time, and loved seeing my sister dance as it made her so happy. I was standing against the door frame just out of the way in case people had to get in and out of the room. Without warning Abby Lee shoves me aside to get into the room despite there already being enough room for her to get inside. She did not ask me to move, or even say anything. She just walked right in. My dad nearly punched her, and probably would've if not for my mom stopping him to avoid a scene. It was that incident that caused me to lose all respect for her, and It has continued to drop over the years with all this drama you spoke of.
My family lived in Penn Hills all through my childhood and most of my teenage life... this is where Abby is truly from. She never mentions that, it's always just "Pittsburgh." LOL She was two years ahead of me so I didn't know her, BUT my brother was in her class at Linton Middle School (9th and 10th) and Penn Hills Senior High(11th and 12th.) He's told me that she was always full of herself and confirmed that she was quite the racist as well. I'm so sorry you had to experience that when all you wanted to do was watch your sister dance. Abby was, is and always will be a conceited BITCH.
Of course she pushed you out of the way, a self important space station that doesn't take responsibility for her own shitty behavior, actions and go to therapy needs all the room to move around.
Yeah, after seeing her rudely come up to a group of girls trying to celebrate their friend's birthday made me not like her off camera. How is she gonna go on and on about manners when she doesn't have any herself?
America's Sweethearts: Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders on Netflix is another horror story. " NFL cheerleaders typically earn around $75 to $150 per game, with an average yearly salary of about $22,500" This is very very sad 😞
"Be the person you needed when you were younger." is genuinely some of the best advice I heard, and you echoing that sentiment later on just reaffirmed in that. There's so much crap going on in the world, and rather than adding to it, I hope to help even just a single person keep going. Sometimes that person is myself. And sometimes I falter when it comes to being kind. But in the grand scheme of things, I want to leave this world a brighter place, not darker.
this!!! i moved my daughter from Oregon Ballet Theatre's dance school when i started noticing the health office at her grade school would call to say my daughter was sick (upset stomach) on dance days. i put two and two together, got my young daughter to tell me how she was scared to go to class after school and how mean her teacher was. (the head of the school, fyi) and i pulled her right out. we ended up at a different school where i saw my beautiful little dancer dance with a smile of joy on her face for the first time. brought me to tears. ironically enough, her new teacher had been a member of OBT and had left for similar abuse issues.
I was watching Toddlers and Tiara’s this morning because there was nothing on TV but I had to turn it off after 5 minutes. Those weird attention moms just pull their 3 year olds on stage, crying, yelling and looking like an adult with those fake teeth, wigs and all the make up. It grosses me out so much
Clipping the 'you are valid in the body you have' part because I need this reminder not even daily but hourly. Sappy? It made me cry. Thank you for being so kind.
I think the saddest thing about dance moms viewership is a big chunk of it was also around the age of the dancers… i remeber watching at like 10 years old thinking I wanted to be them and idk how that affected my brain lmao
I remember watching it in middle school because I was on my middle school’s dance team and just loved watching the dances at the end, and almost all the girls on my team watched it too! It sucks that when you’re older and look back on the show you realize how toxic and abusive it was and how it wasn’t just about the dances 😭
I wish Swoop would have at least mentioned this. It wasn't just millions and millions of adults tuning in, it was mostly kids around the same age of the dancers. I feel like that fact would have put into perspective why a lot of this wasn't called into question.
It's very interesting for me, cause I'm a dancer as a hobby. Been dancing since I was 4. Dance mom's actually helped me feel a bit better about my dancing because I was never as good as the girls on there, but I saw what they had to do to get that way. I, quiet frankly, wasn't interested in dancing for god knows how many hours every day, missing social gatherings, and traveling every weekend. It made me realize I wanted a different kind of life and helped me accept the abilities I already had.
I commented on a video of yours where you asked if people would be interested in this, explaining that I danced at the ALDC LA, and that I would find a video like this extremely healing and validating for a lot of what I experienced in my time there. I just want to say, I was completely right, thank you so much for this. Thank you for your investigative skills, taking your time to do this, and for the healing that this has brought to me. I cannot explain the pure relief that comes with the validation that somebody who has treated you poorly is also acknowledged for being abusive by the rest of the world. Thank you Swoop.
And before anyone asks (because I have seen the comment regarding the girls moms on dance moms quite a few times) why my parents did not protect me by not signing me up for the ALDC, I want to say that there is nothing my parents could have done better. I have a lot of empathy for the position they were in, and at 13, I was like a dog with a bone, and would not drop the idea of dancing at the ALDC LA. They did the absolute best they could with the information that they had, and it has never once crossed my mind to blame my parents for “not protecting me better“ in my situation. I did not force them to allow me to go by any means, but it was my dream to dance there, and in my parents eyes, they were giving me their dream. I love them implicitly, and even though I would absolutely go back in time and change things if I could, I do not blame them for a second.
I don’t think any of the moms are innocent, especially when they stayed for more than one season. There’s no way you could see your child be treated that badly and exposed to things like that and not pull them out if you were a good parent.
Especially when the ALDC moved to LA because the kids’ contracts were not legally processed. Because of that, they were not under obligation to comply. That was how JoJo was able to leave in season 6 without legal issues and sign with Nickelodeon. Granted, Abby was Kendall’s music manager so she might not have been able to. But Holly and Nia could have left after all of the racism yet Holly and Nia stayed to build resilience.
I agree but Melissa has said a lot the reason why Maddison and McKenzie left when they did because a contract was up so I think they were bound by contract but idk
The contracts did not allow them to leave for SIX years/ seasons . Christi eventually found a loophole where Chloe wouldn’t have to be a part of ALDC but still had to film the show as if she was still.
They originally signed up for a 6 part docuseries and when they signed their contract they didn't know that Lifetime providing a lawyer for them wasn't in their best interest. Kelly wanted out all the time but they were threatened with losing their money/house etc if they left. They had no way of knowing how realistic or not the threats were. They already had Abby's contract that said that if you left mid competition season or didn't come back if you were a title holder that you would owe her $100,000 (the reason that Christi and Kelly were there when the show started as Chloe and Brooke were title holders the year before)
Pretty simple to be a parent like that, all you gotta do is fail at everything you try (or think you failed even if you didn’t), have a child, and project that innate fear and dread of failure to them using verbal and emotional abuse, creating a trauma so deep that the child will end up resenting you for the rest of their life 😊 (Edit: grammar)
You saying that you don’t owe an explanation to someone you stopped talking to them, makes me feel so much better! I felt manipulated and lied to by a friend and I stopped talking to her cold turkey. I don’t owe her an explanation she knows what she did.
I was made to feel bad for cutting someone off, and I made the mistake of getting back in contact. A decision I deeply regret and am still dealing with in therapy.
Totally. Sometimes I feel it’s better to say, some people aren’t bad, our paths just aren’t aligned and I don’t want to just leave them hanging. But when someone is being an ahhhole that brakes your boundaries- they know what they did and aren’t owed any explanation. They don’t deserve any more energy to be spent on them
Same here! I am in the same situation with a few family members and am very non confrontational. I have felt so bad for cutting them off without explanation. I felt guilty because they constantly crossed boundaries I never verbally set. When she said that I teared up and felt so validated for the first time in a long time
I still wonder about Maddie Ziegler’s mental health. I saw one episode where she completely broke down crying thinking that Abby didn’t like her performance. And like the allegedly abusive person she was, Abby came in all lovingly and calmed Maddie’s fears. And then the next second, Abby was screaming at everyone so who tf knows where these girls’ mental health is now.
I have heard Maddie say that she went to therapy after her time on Dance Moms was over. She is actively in therapy. This was mentioned in a podcast and was featured in a MackZBoss video. Chloe revealed she was haunted by Abby's negative words and even shared her Eating disorder in poetry form on her second Instagram account. I am not sure if Chloe was in therapy and Kalani revealed she developed anxiety and (sadly she shared during the reunion that she called mental health helplines or rather the producers recorded that conversation), Lily from season 8 had panic attacks as well as Kendall and Paige. Paige had tried to sue Abby and court documents revealed that it was the school counselor who noticed Paige was suffering from Abby's brutal criticisms.
Abby hated and held a grudge against Kelly over Kelly giving up dance when Abby saw her as her original golden ticket, like Maddie. Sadly she went on to take it out on Brooke and Paige, and she didn’t like Christi who was Kelly’s best friend who’d stand up for her, so she’d treat Chloe so poorly and punish her to get back at Christi. It was a hard watch. Chloe seems like the most sweet, genuine individual. JoJo is the only one who thinks Abby didn’t abuse them… but JoJo has, in my opinion, been used and abused her entire life by all the trusted adults around her and she hasn’t yet realised or admitted, whatever is behind her denial.
what I see with JoJo... as somebody with a narcissistic parent and other toxic family members... growing up in that kind of chaos doesn't equip you with these self protective mechanisms you should have learned, so basically you don't have that red flag detector. part of overcoming that kind of childhood trauma is self parenting and building those up so you won't keep getting targeted by the same types of people. but if she doesn't want to do the work, nobody else can make her see it unfortunately. for another example of this, see: most of the life of Brooke Shields (I think she's gotten a bit better recently though).
@nivision it unfortunately takes a long time to unpack those things and longer still to admit that the person/people who were supposed to protect you let you down and harmed you. Sometimes it's literally a life long process. That Brooke remains a good person and protective mom in spite of her mom is kind of miraculous.
@@meghanphillips3495 agreed on all. and Brooke is proof that the cycle doesn't have to repeat, even before she did the work she had more respect and care for her daughters than was given to her as a daughter.
She's admitted to knowing that she was exploited by her family, but she's internalized all of that and now she's running around trying to be Abby (I think Swoop has a recent video on her own attempt to start a girl group---if not her, then VangeliaSkov I know how a video about one of the girls from JoJo's group).
The way I whooped “SWOOP!” I don’t even watch half of the shows or am familiar with any of the people you deep dive into, but I am always sucked in. Every. Single. Time. You are so good at fleshing out the human side of horrible people before taking it to Petty University. So good to see Future Swoop. Your everyday makeup is so beautiful too!
@@BatshtPassionateThat’s because your dad probably validated you, too, and didn’t just tease you. Teasing in jest is fine, but you do need to have some positive things to say, too, psychologically speaking.
@@HavianEla Absolutely. I know first hand how certain comments like that can destroy parts of ourselves. Sad coming from a parent then a child not knowing what to do with that
My dad said I was pretty stupid for a smart kid. Most of the time after I made a silly decision/didnt think before acting. He never called me stupid with reminding me i was smart.
As someone from Mars PA who had Chloe at my school for a short amount of time. I remember my friends and I always feeling so bad for her and how we heard she was treated while at the studio. We were always confused why she was missing so many days of school but now it makes sense. She was always so so kind and it’s such a shame how these literal children were treated.
As a fellow survivor of childhood and adulthood DV of over 30 years, and a chronic pain fighter, I wanted to say how much I appreciate you, Swoop. This space with the petty community helps me to feel seen and safe. That doesn't happen for me too often, so when I have that opportunity, it means more than I can say. Sending so much love and healing vibes to you! (And to everyone else who is struggling) We are warriors. We are survivors. We are overcomers. And... we are valid. Sending so much love to you all ❤️🔥
Swoop… I don’t have words to explain how much you’ve impacted me. I’m a single nonbinary parent of two with CPTSD and various autoimmune issues. Most days I don’t feel valid or enough for this world, the abuse I’ve experienced for years still plagues me and I have to fight against it constantly. I feel so safe watching your content and you always make me cry happy tears when you stop to remind us all that we are valid, we are enough, and we are seen. Thank you for coming back for us time and time again, you inspire bravery and courage in us all.
You have no idea how happy reading your comment made me. I’ve never heard of another non-binary parent before and seeing one, even in just a comments section of a TH-cam video, makes me unbelievably happy. Thank you for commenting! I wish you the best!
That is a grueling schedule for children. When I was in high school, I took advanced classes, was involved in school theater, took dance classes in a nearby town, and had a part-time job. Wtf was I thinking? I liked being busy, but I was burned out by the 2nd semester of my senior year.
Even worse when you consider the early moms report they were frequently held up at the studio after midnight and told the girls couldn’t leave rehearsal because there wasn’t enough footage for the show. Aka “if you want your kid to get any sleep tonight you’d better scream at someone.”
I’m a dance teacher and danced professionally for a few years till it quite literally broke me…it took covid for me to realize how wrong we are treated. I have really been hopiing yoúd drop this doc for a while… the language and ability you have to break such complex and traumatic topics down becomes healing because i am then able to comprehend and explain in better detail to my students and loved ones exactly why and HOW these topics infiltrate our lives specifically. Thank you swoop, i wish you healing in your recovery both in your mind, body, and heart. I am so sorry someone as wholesome as you has to go through yet another traumatic event. You dońt deserve this.
As someone who suffers from chronic illness and chronic pain, I want to thank you AGAIN for being so accepting of all bodies. Just the other day I had my first appointment with a new GP and all he did was hound me about my weight and my "portion size" despite not knowing at all what I eat. He made so many assumptions about me and pushed and pushed and pushed the point of me needing to exercise more and "just get out and walk." 1) It's freaking summer....IN TEXAS!!! If your aim is to get me to pass out due to heat exhaustion or heat stroke, then I guess your idea would be a "good" one. 2) I told him NUMEROUS times that I am disabled, and sometimes walking to the bathroom is too much for me and I'm in tears from the pain. Heck, I spent less than 10 minutes making myself something to eat earlier today and I WAS in pain because of it. I've already decided that since I now have the referrals I needed, I will not be going back to him due to how unheard and unseen he made me feel. Look, I know I'm fat, and to many people that is an unacceptable thing, but my body is so broken down from things that I cannot control that have eff all to do with my weight. To add insult to injury, I had, just hours before, literally had a midline (fancy term for a longer lasting IV, but not as long lasting as a PICC line) pulled from my arm that morning, because I had been in the hospital for 5 days the week before due to a kidney infection that almost went septic and had to be on IV antibiotics. Clearly this doctor did not know how to read the room.
Glad you know you don't have to force yourself to continue to visit a doctor who refuses to listen to you. Being overweight is not automatically the worst health problem and cause of all your other problems, and it shouldn't be the thing that healthcare professionals obsess over every time you visit.
@@HazooToo You know, as crummy as that doctor was and how horrible he made me feel (there is so much more to the story, but I didn't have the spoons to write a whole dissertation, lol) the plain and simple fact that I can comment in spaces like this and get support, rather than the internets typical diatribe of how I'm wrong and any fat is bad and that I'm just a burden, makes me feel so much better. I have been a part of the HAES and Fat Acceptance movements for years now, but I'm only human and can only take so much negativity before I end up spiraling. So thank you so much for being an internet ally!
I've never liked reality TV, even when I was a kid. Maybe it's because of my autism, but I just can't fathom how people can watch a show where a grown woman, who sounds like she smokes 20 packs of cigarettes a day, literally SCREAMS at innocent children, making them cry ... and consider that entertainment.
So, I'm working while listening to this and I cant be the only one who noticed that Jojo and ALM speak with the same cadence and inflections. Must be all that *positive* influence/s
Some people deal with abuse by looking back and realising their abuser was wrong and there was nothing wrong with themself. Some deal with abuse by convincing themself they were wrong and their abuser was right. You can tell which one Jojo did. I hope one day she can see the truth and heal because right now she is repeating the cycle.
@@eevee2411I mean Jojo thinking Abby's treatment and disrespect is normal comes from the fact her mom was treating her the same exact way at home. Her dad failed to protect her from her mom and Abby. Saddening that she too became just like both of them, disgusting abusers who think it's okay to traumatize children
I live in Pgh, and I was a dance mom to a competitive Scottish highland dancer, during the Dance Moms show. In our school, the moms all got along, as did our kids , even though they frequently competed against each other. And we all still are friends. The kids were always supportive of each other (and are still friends, although are now adults , living their lives in different parts of the country), and the parents still volunteer at dance competitions and other events. When the show was running, we all were glad that the dance teachers that taught our kids were nothing like Abby, and that we were nothing like those moms.
While I've not been in dance religiously, I’ve taken several ballet, hip hop, and modern dance classes growing up and NONE of those teachers ever screamed at me or the other kids dancing with me. They could be strict, but there is a very clear difference between strict and abusive. What makes me sick and angry is that Abby Lee has this sense of entitlement over her victims, that they should be grateful for her "making them who they are". The fact is this; no one owes her a damn thing. She was an abusive psychotic drill sergeant joke of a teacher, and while she may have played a part in building those careers for those girls, they don't owe her anything. If they don't want to associate with Abby, then they have a right to do so. It's reminiscent of how abusive parents or partners will treat you like you owe them something, that you should be grateful to them for providing for you and that without them you would be nothing aka gaslighting. Which isn’t true at all, their talent made those girls who they are and Abby is an awful person. Final comment, please take care of yourself Swoop. Love you ❤
Thank you, Swoop. I am a survivor/fighter of 32 years of EDs. My mind plays tricks on me daily & today has been an especially rough day. Thank you for saying the things that others aren't strong enough or willing to say. You're fkn INCREDIBLE!!! Luv ya, sweetheart ✌️🫶 (Sweetheart isn't disrespectful, I'm Southern, and it's from a place of pure love)
People used to tell me I was judgmental for never being shy about how I found Dance Moms to be exploitative and abusive of children. In fact, I’ve ever liked reality TV, it always felt fake and I told people that true reality TV is impossible unless the footage is live and unedited, but very few are like that.
@@auberginebear Same, I stay out the fandoms, though. When I lived Japan & Mexico (for work), I'd watch it w my mom and brother. It's 1 of our ways to stay connected when they didn't visit. My brother and I also watch YT drag shows together, too. If you haven't seen them, I'd definitely suggest the Boulet Brothers. They're very real, too. (We also watch La Más Draga, too, on YT. it's hilarious!)
@@SaintShion I knew someone on S2 of Dragula, he was not edited to be the jerk he came off as and I wasn’t surprised they got rid of him in I think the 2nd or 3rd episode.
My mom and I used to watch Dance Moms. She was mostly watching it for validation to feel better if she felt like a bad mom ("at least I don't let my kids get screamed at" type beat) and we'd have conversations on how to avoid those scenarios and that kind of person
That seems like the perfect way to handle things like this: to talk openly and honestly about it. Your mom did what I wish everyone would do, she had that conversation regardless of how/if it was an "uncomfortable" topic. ❤❤❤
Your ability to provide amazingly insightful yet factual information with the perfect touch of petty & humour is what makes you such a perfect storyteller. The second your video ends I am always eager for the next Swoop doc here or on your other channel. Thank you for your research, your ethics and the care you show in every single video. I genuinely think the hardest thing for people to grasp is empathy and that is something you do so so well & with so much care. I hope you continue to heal physically and emotionally and please make sure you prioritize yourself. From myself & the Smoosh Face Gang (it's what my fiancé & I call our 9 cats 😸) we are sending you happy thoughts, healing vibes & joy.
OMG, Swoop, I am so sorry!! This news brought me to tears to hear this. Please know that you are not alone! I have been through something similar. Take as much time as you need. We aren't going anywhere! You aren't just a TH-cam channel to us. You are a genuine, strong, brave, beautiful & talented woman. And we love & care about you & your well-being. Thank you for sharing, especially when you didn't have to. Your honesty & compassion are what make you so relatable to the rest of us. And we respect you so much!!! I just bought a ribcage hoodie can't wait to receive it ❤
i just wanted to give some added context about the OG mothers of the show. Mothers like Christ & Kelly HAD wanted to leave after the treatment for their daughters got worse and seeing how their dance teacher and the production was setting them up to fail for a television storyline, however were not able to as they were bound by contact. This is also why Abby’s treatment for the girls such as Paige & Chloe got worse because Abby wasn’t contractually allowed to kick any of the girls off the team just as the mother’s weren’t allowed to leave with their children which Abby used to her twisted advantage to berate and humiliate the children who she didn’t like in retaliation to the mothers that she wasn’t fond of. Abby also had her own contract where you weren’t allowed to leave her studio if your child won a title underneath her or you would be sued 100k, they signed contacts with abby that she basically owned their child for a year/ the dance season. Due to this, it wasn’t particularly easy for these mothers to leave when things went bad.
Not to victim blame but they signed it. They read the contract. If they thought it was that detrimental for their children they would have paid the money and pulled them out.
Do you have a spare 100k + what ever else you’d be sued for breaking contract? Also when the OG mothers originally signed it was a 6 episode docu series and then the show got picked up + ordered more episodes before the first season even came out. The whole purpose of my comment was to highlight that it really wasn’t that easy to leave once they were locked in. Revealed in her ‘Back To The Barre’ podcast when Kelly would have her outbursts and ‘leave’ the show, she would essentially get threats from production and was forced to come back to filming as she HAD to since she was under contract.
Brooke and Chloe could not leave the studio because they were title holders as well which makes it really sad. Brooke was also lonely because all of her friends her age had moved on from dance and she was forced to dance with her sister, granted she once danced with the senior company but Lifetime did not want Brooke to stay there and dance with her sister. As for Chloe, Abby was cruel excluding Chloe, trying to get Chloe to lose, first to Maddie with the same solo, then with Kamryn (season 4 select team) not once but twice. She also made fun of Chloe’s Silent Sinus Syndrome.
America's Sweethearts: Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders on Netflix is another horror story. " NFL cheerleaders typically earn around $75 to $150 per game, with an average yearly salary of about $22,500" This is very very sad 😞
@@amymckay23 yeah they do have other full careers but the amount of intense training they have to do and keeping up their looks is worth more than what they earn
I’m glad this is finally being brought to the public’s attention. Why would the NFL cheerleaders (of all teams not just DCC) not receive equal or even just SIMILAR pay to the NFL football players?? They deserve a salary pay for all the work they do plus appearances… It’s ridiculous.
Swoop, I have been a loyal follower (and Petty University customer) of yours for 3 years..I had NO idea u went through what you went througj recently..from the bottom of my heart I am SO very sorry and I hope you're getting the help u need and deserve...we are ALL here for you Professor Petty ❤❤❤
Thank you so much for the update Swoop. To see that you're safe and healing makes me feel so much better. We'll always be here for you and remember hun... it's not your fault. It's never your fault. And you are loved.
I have been saying this for years which is why i refused to watch shows like Dance moms or 'toddlers and tiaras' These moms are AWFUL. Why would you want to put your own child or any child through this! Just let kids be kids.
Same. I refuse to watch reality tv about kids for the same reason I won't watch family vloggers; I know the kids won't be treated with dignity and will absolutely be messed up by the end of it, and it makes me sick to watch it happen
not to defend all the moms on the show (especially not the ones who brought their kids on the show after it started airing), but i will say for the original moms, they were pitched a completely different show and had no idea it would become what it was. they got locked into long-term contracts and had no idea what they were doing. most of them weren't paid well at all for several seasons. a few of the moms had to initiate huge altercations in order to be let off the show (see: kelly, kristi). so i do have sympathy for the original moms who didn't know what they were getting into and then tried to get out. it's the moms who stayed for seasons and the moms who came in late that i really heavily critique.
Well to be fair children do have to learn things but those things are things like how to cook how to clean how to do finances how to be emotionally and mentally mature. That is part of being a kid you have to learn how to be an adult but yeah none of these things are things they need to learn and none of these things are ways that anybody should be treated child or adult
@@impposter560Same. I also stopped watching kid shows/movies or "family" shows/movies with child actors years ago after I realised, that Hollywood had no intention to tackle the abuse/exploitation going on behind the scene. I hate the idea, that my joy is built on other children's suffering.
thank you for your side remarks and for saying the things you needed to hear at different points in life, you don’t know how many people you’re helping. me included.
I've had to cut off part of my own family to avoid toxic narcissistic behavior and it was hard and took me until my late 30s but so so so fucking worth it. I've made my own family and your family doesn't have to be biologically related.
The Queen of Petty is back! I hope you're doing well, Swoop. Take all the time you need to heal. Your health is the most important thing, both physically, mentally, and emotionally.
SWOOP!! I found your channel less than a year ago while going over either gyspy rose or the idaho murders, cant remember. but, you give off some of the most regal, graceful, kind and sincere energy. I have literally never used this "thanks" feature before but I truly think you deserve it, and I want you to know how impactful it can be to watch someone be so open and vulnerable for so many people as someone who struggles to do it with even my closest friends, and as someone who hasnt had to go through half as much. dont push yourself past your limits. Im so glad youre feeling somewhat better, and so inspired by you every time I watch, the effort and care is noticeable and appreciated. you are ethreal and I wish you as painless and as total healing as possible. much love from boise ❤
The way you can deliver an insanely researched doc with dark subjects but make it informative, enlightening, and positive is an art form 💜💜 I’m so sorry to hear what you have been fighting through recently swoop. Sending you love and light. Thank you for always shining.
Just that small clip in the beginning I wasn't expecting this. Thank you. You seem very strong and humble and that can be rare these days. I'm glad that you have supportive people around. For me just hearing you express the gratitude...wow thank you. I don't know you but what encouragement you just passed on. Lately I've been fighting some battles myself and I do well but hearing you be real for a few minutes strengthens me to the core. Again thank you and I wish you the best. Keep Swooping. You're an excellent raconteur. Know you have a fan that sends his support and gratitude your way. Stay strong. 😊
Your strength and badass attitude to keep on keepin' on brings me to tears. Please take all the time you need to heal, knowing we'll all be here whenever you're ready to do what I truly believe you were born to do. Love you Swoop
I’ve genuinely thought of & prayed for you so many times after that community post. You do SO much to support & speak up for so many, you deserve the same back. I don’t have social but on that community & your swoop too video I’ve said to give yourself the same care & grace you’d tell someone else to for themselves. That helps me at times. Glad to see ya back & I continue to wish you healing & peace.💜💜💜
Auntie Swoop, you are incredibly strong and talented. You are doing the lord's work omg. You have survived so much, and I wish you the best in your healing. Taking the time to thank us and let us know we're not alone was so kind and thoughtful of you. We truly don't deserve you omg. Sending lots of hugs.
I'm so glad you're okay, I've always looked up to you and always felt inspired by how supportive you are for people that have gone through trauma such as yourself. Thank you for being there for us, thank you for being you. You are Valid, we are all Valid. We'll always be here behind you, and support you! We love you SWOOP!!!
1:10:21 you do not know how much I needed this message. I’m 2 years into the hit show of grief and I am not in my best body shape… I needed this thank you Swoop
I've listened to your body speech in the second to last section more than once now. You have no idea how much I need to hear that, Swoop. I could go on about the reasons why, but all I really wanted to say is thank you. I hope you know your own worth too. I'm sorry you've gone through too much over the last while especially. YOU are a champion and so worthy too ❤
Let me preface by saying Welcome back SWOOP it's great to see you again, hope your feeling better, take all the time you need, no shame taking time away. Happy you're back and can't wait to see Professor petty again.❤️ I don't get how Abby wasn't called out sooner. Actually, I do get it, it was "funny" to some people, and it doesn't register for some that even tho it's "reality" T.V, those are still real people, real children. And if they did realize it,the probably didn't care. It's so blatantly obvious from just one minute of watching how Abby interacts with the children how abusive and manipulative she was. There are so many scenes of her screaming at CHILDREN, the "comforting" them, and giving them gifts. I am a survivor of CSA,and one of the tactics my abuser used was they, hurt me physically and or emotionally, then would love bomb me with gifts and praise, which made me think, "hey it's not all bad, if I stick it out, it'll get better." These are children, children who were put in compromising situations, and weren't allowed to express that, everything was on the line for these kids and their parents, and one slip up could break your career, Abby lost nothing if she fired them. It sickens and breaks my heart to say that in entertainment, a child is still seen as worth less than an adult, I've done dance and choir, what these girls experienced is not uncommon, it happens so much to the point it's normal. Abby just kicked it into high gear but putting it on national T.V for people to enjoy some else's suffering, and spreading the message that "it was fine to do this, it's normal" Normal does not mean morally correct. Abby should have never been around kids plain and simple.
I really appreciate what you said about setting firm boundaries. I'm a therapist and work with clients on boundaries all the time. That being said, I had to set a hard boundary, just like you said, and walk away from a very toxic friendship in my life. It feels horrible to "cut someone out" without an explanation. But if giving the explanation opens the door to being treated even worse, it's best just to walk away. When you are a kind, compassionate person, walking away without explanation feels impossible. It hurts deeply to cut the tie and leave, but is so necessary for your own safety and even survival. I think your statements were validating and important for many of your viewers. Thank you Swoop!!
Another great documentary. As a biracial woman + survivor myself, I look up to you and your platform. I love seeing you thrive and your creativity is so beautiful to witness fluorish. Recently heard Adam McIntyre confirm that you are just as real behind the scenes. Wishing you love and light from miles away through a screen. :)
I'm so thankful that you are starting to feel better and have gotten the chance to take the break you deserved and needed. I hope this continues in the same way and that you are able to continue feeling better, no matter how long it takes you. You are valid and all the time you need to feel better is yours to take. You got this, all the love and well wishes.
My favorite part of this video was Swoop's update by far. So happy to see she's recovering and taking care of herself to come back to what makes her feel most inspired ❤❤
Swoop every time you talk about Ed’s and being valid you make me cry so much thank you for reminding us we are worthy i love you swoop you are so amazing
We love you Swoop, am so sorry this happened to you, you're an absolute superstar. I am so thankful you are here, making entertainment for us. I get literal chills of excitement when I hear 'This is what we know'
I had one damce teacher who reminded me that l was the bigger girl the odd one out. As an adult l hate to admit it. l watched dance moms, and l noticed she became unhinged around season 2. Chloe, Nia, and Brooke were my favourites. All the moms seemed over the top. Near the end the seasons become a repeat. My heart goes out to all the dancers that had to suffer the attacks the abuse. You guys are brave worthy and beautiful your so strong. Thank you swoop your storytelling is amazing 👏 ❤
Omg Swoop, I wondered where you've been, I must've missed that update. I'm so sorry that happened and I'm glad you're feeling a bit better. You take all the time you need to take care of yourself. You're not alone and you're loved ❤ As always, amazing work on this doc
I am genuinely sorry to hear about what happened to you, Swoop. I'm glad you are doing better. Take care of yourself, and remember that you are never alone. Thank you for making the Abby documentary.
Thank you as always for your kindness and wisdom to this space and everyone who may come across it. I am a firm believer in reminding others what they already know and reassuring those that need it. Its the most difficult thing to do for yourself, so when you do it for others, and they reciprocate, more people can feel seen, heard, and gain some healing from their trauma. There's so many of us out there, and it helps that, even in passing, even if none of us will ever speak to or know each other personally, people can still show that basic kindness a lot of people were trained out of. Much love to you, Swoop. 💜
I really appreciate how you always take the time to uplift and support us even in your darkest moments. You really help me with my ED and trauma so thank you. You are worthy, you are a hero, you are valid and you are AMAZING just as you are ❤
Hi SWOOP! First of all, this is a great doc, and i really appreciate the work you put into your content. Secondly, welcome back. < 3 Wishing you a lot of love and light! I just wanted to correct some information in here, because I think it paints a different picture - Chloe was kicked out BY ABBY, not production. THat contract was ABBY'S contract, not productions. During the filming of season 4, Chloe was not a member of the studio OUTSIDE of the show. She had to pretend the ALDC was still her studio, even though it wasn't because she was still contracted with the show. Chloe left the show because, towards the end of season 4, Chloe started suffering from some strange symptoms that ended up being a result of something called Silent Sinus Syndrome. But at the time, she was undergoing a lot of tests to find out why one of her eyes seemed to be smaller than the other. Abby, on Chloe's last episode, screamed at Christi that she needed to 'get Chloe's lazy eye fixed, because it's ugly.' This was edited out of the show, but it's been confirmed by Christi, Chloe, Cathy and some of the Candy Apple Moms. That was CHristi's last straw, and she fought to get out of her contract. :)
After bringing up 4 daughters, I will never understand why a mother would put her children through so much pressure and in this case abuse! No amount of money or stardom is worth that. If your child wants to pursue anything, they will, just give them time, confidence and they’ll do the rest. A parent who lives through their child, has immediately failed their child.
I am so glad to see the update you posted in this doc. Hope the healing and recovery continues, sending you love light and positivity. As a former competitive dancer, i was truly lucky that my dance teacher was not this way. However, it was so very common to see the toxicity from the teachers( abusive as hell) as well as the other "dance moms". They (the mothers) were truly living their dream vicariously through their children. Even as a young kid never understood how behavior like that was accepted. Yet it was so prevalent throught the dance/ cheer/ ice skating communities.
So glad to see your update, Swoop. Take as much time as you need, we're not going anywhere. And remember you're an incredible person who is so strong. We stan our queen! 🎉
Hi Swoop, I’m doing that now. I’m getting help from mental health. I lost my grandson to all drowning two years ago and I kind of check out a lot of times. Sending you love light and prayers hoping that you’re doing better.❤ I really couldn’t stand to watch this all the yelling and shouting the same like housewives didn’t they worry about their kids being sold on the black market I never watched it so I don’t know
Hi friends it's me here :) Thank you with all of my heart for your kindness and compassion while I have been taking some time to heal. I posted a quick update at 05:19 for those asking, and I can't wait to come back fully very soon. I am so honored to be part of this beautiful community we have created. Sending all my love and gratitude! Talk soon!
CORRECTION Re: Brook and Paige. They and others were members of ALDC and had a relationship with Abby before the show, with the exception of Cathy and Vivi!
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Love your content! Thanks For this. Take your time. You come first❤❤❤❤❤
Take your time, Swoop! We're excited for your full return, but take care of you first!
Your honesty and uplifting words about trauma honestly helped me understand a bad situation that I was in. I'm out now and working on my own healing journey. Thank you for being you and being brave enough to confront the hard stuff. 💝
Oh my god Swoop, I'm so sorry for what happened to you, Ive been in an abusive relationship before and I'm praying for your healing, I love you to death Swoop, you have helped me so much through everything I've been through and I cant thank you enough for it. I wish you the best and the best healing, take all the time you need to heal, we will be here for you. You are amazing Swoop. Hang in there
@@PettyUniversity so happy to see the update, you do a lot of good, and I hope you feel the love through all this. So many of us, unfortunately have various horrible experiences, but hopefully we can all support each other here.
I am a mental health worker, I have had a couple clients now bring you up and how they felt affirmed by your talks when things like this come up in your channel and saying it is not their fault. You are a wonderful person and I am glad you are getting the support you need.
I hope Swoop sees this!!!! This is such a wholesome comment and the highest compliment you can give someone in my book.
I love this ❤
incredible!!!
This is wonderful said and I hope she sees it and also gets the time she needs to heal. She's an amazing youtuber love swoop
I hope she sees this🥰
I can handle strict teaching. Cruel teaching is unexceptable. She was cruel to them. And she wonders why the OG girls don’t speak to her as well as takes no accountability.
Yes! I teach music. I have high expectations and don't hold back information when it comes to what needs improvement. But there are ways to do so that don't involve hurling abuse and insults. You can respect your students and still get them to improve their performance.
Yes. As a teacher- you can be strict and firm without being cruel. It’s not okay and causes so much psychological damage.
To a much lesser extent she reminds me of my first year middle school drama teacher. She would berate us to tears over a small mistake and never apologise for it or even give us more than a “Well atleast there’s improvement “ if she had been strict but fair we would’ve learned and performed much better then we ended out performing.
Cruelty doesn’t teach - cruelty is for the enjoyment and feeling of power for the abuser.
Honestly, same. I learned martial arts as a teen and the classes were very intense and there was strict decorum you had to follow.
However, actually putting a student in danger, verbally berating them, or injuring them on purpose was not permitted.
In the rare case that a student didn't listen, discipline was handled through strick enforcement of decorum or additional work.
Idk how an abusive person towards kids isn't locked up but filmed for entertainment... weird af
'Merica?
I never could understand how people could watch that for entertainment
What’s even weirder, is all the moms that just sat back and watched their kids treated like that. Sick. Sick. Sick.
All the former dance mom kids have bad feelings towards Abby, explainable… but their anger should also be geared towards their “dance moms” too.
As a mother, it’s our job to protect our babies from harmful or toxic situations. These mothers did not do that. At all.
It’s because we as a society put the responsibility on the parent. So it’s not our fault that a kid is being abused even though we’re watching it for entertainment, it’s the parent’s fault. I feel like a lot of people don’t intervene in abuse situations because we leave it up to the parents. Even if the parents are the abusers or enabling it.
TLC has a horrible history of not protect the people that bring them in all that money.
Ugh my son is a high school athlete and thinking about a grown woman lusting over children makes me feel sick to my stomach
Honestly i cant imagine being the parent when
A) when grown ass woman can say this about a highschool BOY isn't/wasnt taken as a grown man said it about a highschool girl..
B) its feeling like so many youtubers/people with a following/fame. Tries to sleep with 15-17 year olds.
I don't have any kids and im nauseated by at all.
I was shocked that she doubled down instead of clarifying “I mean if I were a high schooler, I would be obsessed with high school athletes, I guess I want to go back to my youth!”
Did anyone notice how similarly her and Jojo speak? Like the pauses, the afflictions, the words they choose? Just me?
Not just you. Trauma damage well and truly done.
Thought the same thing
She has the same cadence in her speech. Wow.
And both have that raw edge too. As if they have been screaming a lot.
“Inflections”? lol
A 12 year old child should not be under any kind of contract ever.
Legally speaking, they can't be. Their parents are. That's why they treat their kids so poorly.
Yeah it happens all the time. It’s not that strange
In entertainment you’re meant to have your parents as well as agent/manager looking out for you (and you can’t legally sign), so you can’t be taken advantage of. That goes out the window with reality TV where all the usual rules surrounding performers are basically non-existent.
I had an agent who was a LOT like Abby and I was fortunate that I had parents who weren’t exploitative and I was the Maddie of my agency. If I had exploitative parents and wasn’t her favourite who knows how miserable I would have been. It was rough enough experiencing the kids around me (many of whom were friends or went to school with me) get absolutely mercilessly blasted by her while praising me. I get flashbacks watching Dance Moms. At least she always looked after my auditions and contracts to protect me, unlike Abby.
@@Geospasmic yes…and that’s 100% the parents fault there. The thing is…no matter how vile Miller might have been it’s the parents who put their kids in that situation and continued to put their kids in that situation….over and over. And it was the producers who hired all of them.
Jojo was on contract with her tour to do 26 shows, then they kept adding more & more little by little (she was even the youngest person to ever play at the O2 Arena in London) until she ended it with a whopping *132 fucking shows total!* When she initially agreed to *only 26!*
She was only 16…. Just so wild to me. I totally agree, if they themselves cannot give informed consent then there should not be any contracts allowed.
As someone who was married to an ex-dancer and worked in IDTA credited dance festivals, I can honestly say Dance Mom's is not unique in how kids are treated.
And it becomes pervasive, the dancers become parents who pass the same thing down to the children.
After a year, I walked away from it all, its disgusting
Thanks for your insight, every time I see clips from this show I wonder how anyone can put up with that. If I entrusted my child to someone and they spoke to/treated him that way I’d never go back. I can’t fathom it.
I was a competitive dancer for 10 years. I had three grown adults duct tape my bare boobs to my bare chest because a male judge said “they were moving too much”. I will never ever let my kids dance if I can help it. Absolutely destroyed my body image.
Same thing with figure skating. Walk into any competitive rink and there’s at least one Abby Lee Miller, if not more. Unfortunately, she is not anything new or unique and neither is the dynamic between the kids and coaches.
@@grxcedn I am so sorry that happened to you. Much love.
I grew up in non-competitive dance and I have seen so many toxic and abusive teachers. I only realized how messed up some of the things I heard were when, as a grown up, I told my friends and they were all shocked.
My little sister used to attend some of the dance competitions that her studio also attended as we are a two hour drive out from Pittsburgh, and a large number of competitions come to that area. They always had issues with the girls and Abby Lee during the competitions, including her stealing idea's from the studio my sister intended. One of their competition dances was called jet set, based around flight attendants. She stole the idea and put it out to the world under the exact same name with very similar costumes and music. They would steal large spaces in the dressing rooms which was being used by everyone competing that weekend, leaving many of the other groups to huddle in a corner with barely enough space to keep their makeup kits in the room. On top of this, at one of the competitions the family was allowed to watch one of the classes through the door. I was about 13 at the time, and loved seeing my sister dance as it made her so happy. I was standing against the door frame just out of the way in case people had to get in and out of the room. Without warning Abby Lee shoves me aside to get into the room despite there already being enough room for her to get inside. She did not ask me to move, or even say anything. She just walked right in. My dad nearly punched her, and probably would've if not for my mom stopping him to avoid a scene. It was that incident that caused me to lose all respect for her, and It has continued to drop over the years with all this drama you spoke of.
You could make your own documentary from your viewpoint! Sheesh. I'm sorry you had to ever interact with this monster
My family lived in Penn Hills all through my childhood and most of my teenage life... this is where Abby is truly from. She never mentions that, it's always just "Pittsburgh." LOL She was two years ahead of me so I didn't know her, BUT my brother was in her class at Linton Middle School (9th and 10th) and Penn Hills Senior High(11th and 12th.) He's told me that she was always full of herself and confirmed that she was quite the racist as well.
I'm so sorry you had to experience that when all you wanted to do was watch your sister dance. Abby was, is and always will be a conceited BITCH.
Of course she pushed you out of the way, a self important space station that doesn't take responsibility for her own shitty behavior, actions and go to therapy needs all the room to move around.
Yeah, after seeing her rudely come up to a group of girls trying to celebrate their friend's birthday made me not like her off camera. How is she gonna go on and on about manners when she doesn't have any herself?
She's a real life Glee villain. Goddamn.
Abby Lee Miller reminds me of estranged parents claiming they don't understand why their children went no-contact.
Spot on.
100%
Ugh, all that hate aged her like an old lemon in a rock tumbler.
😂😂Colleen’s rock tumbler?
It’s visible on CB, too.
@@justkiddin84SCREAMING LMFAOOOO
I’ve spent way too much time consuming dance moms and its related content. I’m so glad it’s finally getting a doc to expose the horrors.
I don't know how that show got views to begin with 🤷♀
Why did you watch it since you say you’re glad the horrors are getting exposed?
@@melissacoulter708 I watched it as a kid
America's Sweethearts: Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders on Netflix is another horror story. " NFL cheerleaders typically earn around $75 to $150 per game, with an average yearly salary of about $22,500" This is very very sad 😞
@@tmcbgrrl0074 It’s so bad I also grew up watching Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders 😭
"Be the person you needed when you were younger." is genuinely some of the best advice I heard, and you echoing that sentiment later on just reaffirmed in that. There's so much crap going on in the world, and rather than adding to it, I hope to help even just a single person keep going. Sometimes that person is myself. And sometimes I falter when it comes to being kind. But in the grand scheme of things, I want to leave this world a brighter place, not darker.
What a great way to view the world
@@nicnag1 Agree. @Kayjay is wise 💌
The parents who force their children to endure this or beauty pageants….they need to be held accountable too
They were bound by two contracts( Aldc. And lifetime) it was only supposed to be a 6 episode doc
this!!! i moved my daughter from Oregon Ballet Theatre's dance school when i started noticing the health office at her grade school would call to say my daughter was sick (upset stomach) on dance days. i put two and two together, got my young daughter to tell me how she was scared to go to class after school and how mean her teacher was. (the head of the school, fyi) and i pulled her right out. we ended up at a different school where i saw my beautiful little dancer dance with a smile of joy on her face for the first time. brought me to tears. ironically enough, her new teacher had been a member of OBT and had left for similar abuse issues.
Omg can we get a Swoop doc on child beauty pageants 👀👀💜💜💜💜
This!! While I don’t agree with everything Abby said or did, those mothers need to be held accountable for THEIR children.
I was watching Toddlers and Tiara’s this morning because there was nothing on TV but I had to turn it off after 5 minutes. Those weird attention moms just pull their 3 year olds on stage, crying, yelling and looking like an adult with those fake teeth, wigs and all the make up. It grosses me out so much
Clipping the 'you are valid in the body you have' part because I need this reminder not even daily but hourly. Sappy? It made me cry. Thank you for being so kind.
I think the saddest thing about dance moms viewership is a big chunk of it was also around the age of the dancers… i remeber watching at like 10 years old thinking I wanted to be them and idk how that affected my brain lmao
I remember watching it in middle school because I was on my middle school’s dance team and just loved watching the dances at the end, and almost all the girls on my team watched it too! It sucks that when you’re older and look back on the show you realize how toxic and abusive it was and how it wasn’t just about the dances 😭
I wish Swoop would have at least mentioned this. It wasn't just millions and millions of adults tuning in, it was mostly kids around the same age of the dancers. I feel like that fact would have put into perspective why a lot of this wasn't called into question.
It's very interesting for me, cause I'm a dancer as a hobby. Been dancing since I was 4. Dance mom's actually helped me feel a bit better about my dancing because I was never as good as the girls on there, but I saw what they had to do to get that way. I, quiet frankly, wasn't interested in dancing for god knows how many hours every day, missing social gatherings, and traveling every weekend. It made me realize I wanted a different kind of life and helped me accept the abilities I already had.
I commented on a video of yours where you asked if people would be interested in this, explaining that I danced at the ALDC LA, and that I would find a video like this extremely healing and validating for a lot of what I experienced in my time there. I just want to say, I was completely right, thank you so much for this. Thank you for your investigative skills, taking your time to do this, and for the healing that this has brought to me. I cannot explain the pure relief that comes with the validation that somebody who has treated you poorly is also acknowledged for being abusive by the rest of the world. Thank you Swoop.
And before anyone asks (because I have seen the comment regarding the girls moms on dance moms quite a few times) why my parents did not protect me by not signing me up for the ALDC, I want to say that there is nothing my parents could have done better.
I have a lot of empathy for the position they were in, and at 13, I was like a dog with a bone, and would not drop the idea of dancing at the ALDC LA.
They did the absolute best they could with the information that they had, and it has never once crossed my mind to blame my parents for “not protecting me better“ in my situation.
I did not force them to allow me to go by any means, but it was my dream to dance there, and in my parents eyes, they were giving me their dream. I love them implicitly, and even though I would absolutely go back in time and change things if I could, I do not blame them for a second.
I don’t think any of the moms are innocent, especially when they stayed for more than one season. There’s no way you could see your child be treated that badly and exposed to things like that and not pull them out if you were a good parent.
Especially when the ALDC moved to LA because the kids’ contracts were not legally processed. Because of that, they were not under obligation to comply. That was how JoJo was able to leave in season 6 without legal issues and sign with Nickelodeon. Granted, Abby was Kendall’s music manager so she might not have been able to. But Holly and Nia could have left after all of the racism yet Holly and Nia stayed to build resilience.
I agree but Melissa has said a lot the reason why Maddison and McKenzie left when they did because a contract was up so I think they were bound by contract but idk
The contracts did not allow them to leave for SIX years/ seasons . Christi eventually found a loophole where Chloe wouldn’t have to be a part of ALDC but still had to film the show as if she was still.
They originally signed up for a 6 part docuseries and when they signed their contract they didn't know that Lifetime providing a lawyer for them wasn't in their best interest. Kelly wanted out all the time but they were threatened with losing their money/house etc if they left. They had no way of knowing how realistic or not the threats were.
They already had Abby's contract that said that if you left mid competition season or didn't come back if you were a title holder that you would owe her $100,000 (the reason that Christi and Kelly were there when the show started as Chloe and Brooke were title holders the year before)
Pretty simple to be a parent like that, all you gotta do is fail at everything you try (or think you failed even if you didn’t), have a child, and project that innate fear and dread of failure to them using verbal and emotional abuse, creating a trauma so deep that the child will end up resenting you for the rest of their life 😊
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Hey SWOOP! Hope you're feeling better now? Don't overdo yourself beautiful woman 🖤 absolutely no shame in self care, remember YOU ARE VALID TOO
so true ❤🧡💛💚💙💜
You took the words right out of my mouth 😊 spot on 👏👏👏👏👏👏
You saying that you don’t owe an explanation to someone you stopped talking to them, makes me feel so much better! I felt manipulated and lied to by a friend and I stopped talking to her cold turkey.
I don’t owe her an explanation she knows what she did.
🎯🎯🎯That was no friend.
I was made to feel bad for cutting someone off, and I made the mistake of getting back in contact. A decision I deeply regret and am still dealing with in therapy.
Totally. Sometimes I feel it’s better to say, some people aren’t bad, our paths just aren’t aligned and I don’t want to just leave them hanging. But when someone is being an ahhhole that brakes your boundaries- they know what they did and aren’t owed any explanation. They don’t deserve any more energy to be spent on them
Same here! I am in the same situation with a few family members and am very non confrontational. I have felt so bad for cutting them off without explanation. I felt guilty because they constantly crossed boundaries I never verbally set. When she said that I teared up and felt so validated for the first time in a long time
I still wonder about Maddie Ziegler’s mental health. I saw one episode where she completely broke down crying thinking that Abby didn’t like her performance. And like the allegedly abusive person she was, Abby came in all lovingly and calmed Maddie’s fears. And then the next second, Abby was screaming at everyone so who tf knows where these girls’ mental health is now.
And the weirdo Sia thing on top of that.
Hopefully she has gotten the treatment and counseling that Jojo has not gotten.
All those kids got screwed up for our entertainment
@@Astral_Clover Yes, it’s very wrong.
I have heard Maddie say that she went to therapy after her time on Dance Moms was over. She is actively in therapy. This was mentioned in a podcast and was featured in a MackZBoss video. Chloe revealed she was haunted by Abby's negative words and even shared her Eating disorder in poetry form on her second Instagram account. I am not sure if Chloe was in therapy and Kalani revealed she developed anxiety and (sadly she shared during the reunion that she called mental health helplines or rather the producers recorded that conversation), Lily from season 8 had panic attacks as well as Kendall and Paige. Paige had tried to sue Abby and court documents revealed that it was the school counselor who noticed Paige was suffering from Abby's brutal criticisms.
Abby hated and held a grudge against Kelly over Kelly giving up dance when Abby saw her as her original golden ticket, like Maddie. Sadly she went on to take it out on Brooke and Paige, and she didn’t like Christi who was Kelly’s best friend who’d stand up for her, so she’d treat Chloe so poorly and punish her to get back at Christi. It was a hard watch. Chloe seems like the most sweet, genuine individual. JoJo is the only one who thinks Abby didn’t abuse them… but JoJo has, in my opinion, been used and abused her entire life by all the trusted adults around her and she hasn’t yet realised or admitted, whatever is behind her denial.
And then Jojo went on to continue the abuse in her own dance group. Its crazy. Also I agree with everything u said!
what I see with JoJo... as somebody with a narcissistic parent and other toxic family members... growing up in that kind of chaos doesn't equip you with these self protective mechanisms you should have learned, so basically you don't have that red flag detector. part of overcoming that kind of childhood trauma is self parenting and building those up so you won't keep getting targeted by the same types of people.
but if she doesn't want to do the work, nobody else can make her see it unfortunately. for another example of this, see: most of the life of Brooke Shields (I think she's gotten a bit better recently though).
@nivision it unfortunately takes a long time to unpack those things and longer still to admit that the person/people who were supposed to protect you let you down and harmed you. Sometimes it's literally a life long process. That Brooke remains a good person and protective mom in spite of her mom is kind of miraculous.
@@meghanphillips3495 agreed on all. and Brooke is proof that the cycle doesn't have to repeat, even before she did the work she had more respect and care for her daughters than was given to her as a daughter.
She's admitted to knowing that she was exploited by her family, but she's internalized all of that and now she's running around trying to be Abby (I think Swoop has a recent video on her own attempt to start a girl group---if not her, then VangeliaSkov I know how a video about one of the girls from JoJo's group).
The way I whooped “SWOOP!” I don’t even watch half of the shows or am familiar with any of the people you deep dive into, but I am always sucked in. Every. Single. Time.
You are so good at fleshing out the human side of horrible people before taking it to Petty University.
So good to see Future Swoop. Your everyday makeup is so beautiful too!
"You're dumb enough for twins" = enough stupid for 2 people. Sounds like a dad joke I never heard before but it did make me laugh lol
Lol that's something my Dad would say to me. But it didn't break me it actually gave me a sense of humor and humility:)
Oh I always thought it meant that they were half brained. But that also makes sense
@@BatshtPassionateThat’s because your dad probably validated you, too, and didn’t just tease you. Teasing in jest is fine, but you do need to have some positive things to say, too, psychologically speaking.
@@HavianEla Absolutely. I know first hand how certain comments like that can destroy parts of ourselves. Sad coming from a parent then a child not knowing what to do with that
My dad said I was pretty stupid for a smart kid.
Most of the time after I made a silly decision/didnt think before acting. He never called me stupid with reminding me i was smart.
As someone from Mars PA who had Chloe at my school for a short amount of time. I remember my friends and I always feeling so bad for her and how we heard she was treated while at the studio. We were always confused why she was missing so many days of school but now it makes sense. She was always so so kind and it’s such a shame how these literal children were treated.
Seeing footage of what she went through breaks my heart. I hope she's doing ok. Hello from Pittsburgh 🖤
As a fellow survivor of childhood and adulthood DV of over 30 years, and a chronic pain fighter, I wanted to say how much I appreciate you, Swoop. This space with the petty community helps me to feel seen and safe. That doesn't happen for me too often, so when I have that opportunity, it means more than I can say.
Sending so much love and healing vibes to you! (And to everyone else who is struggling)
We are warriors. We are survivors. We are overcomers.
And... we are valid.
Sending so much love to you all ❤️🔥
I’m so sorry
Swoop… I don’t have words to explain how much you’ve impacted me. I’m a single nonbinary parent of two with CPTSD and various autoimmune issues. Most days I don’t feel valid or enough for this world, the abuse I’ve experienced for years still plagues me and I have to fight against it constantly. I feel so safe watching your content and you always make me cry happy tears when you stop to remind us all that we are valid, we are enough, and we are seen. Thank you for coming back for us time and time again, you inspire bravery and courage in us all.
I'm glad that you have a safe space to go to. You are valid and I hope you have many good days.
You have no idea how happy reading your comment made me. I’ve never heard of another non-binary parent before and seeing one, even in just a comments section of a TH-cam video, makes me unbelievably happy. Thank you for commenting! I wish you the best!
Why you need validation foe people you don't know? You need what a woman is the moment tou gave birth 😂
That is a grueling schedule for children. When I was in high school, I took advanced classes, was involved in school theater, took dance classes in a nearby town, and had a part-time job. Wtf was I thinking? I liked being busy, but I was burned out by the 2nd semester of my senior year.
Even worse when you consider the early moms report they were frequently held up at the studio after midnight and told the girls couldn’t leave rehearsal because there wasn’t enough footage for the show. Aka “if you want your kid to get any sleep tonight you’d better scream at someone.”
You just described why retirement hits some people too hard.
I’m a dance teacher and danced professionally for a few years till it quite literally broke me…it took covid for me to realize how wrong we are treated. I have really been hopiing yoúd drop this doc for a while… the language and ability you have to break such complex and traumatic topics down becomes healing because i am then able to comprehend and explain in better detail to my students and loved ones exactly why and HOW these topics infiltrate our lives specifically. Thank you swoop, i wish you healing in your recovery both in your mind, body, and heart. I am so sorry someone as wholesome as you has to go through yet another traumatic event. You dońt deserve this.
As someone who suffers from chronic illness and chronic pain, I want to thank you AGAIN for being so accepting of all bodies. Just the other day I had my first appointment with a new GP and all he did was hound me about my weight and my "portion size" despite not knowing at all what I eat. He made so many assumptions about me and pushed and pushed and pushed the point of me needing to exercise more and "just get out and walk." 1) It's freaking summer....IN TEXAS!!! If your aim is to get me to pass out due to heat exhaustion or heat stroke, then I guess your idea would be a "good" one. 2) I told him NUMEROUS times that I am disabled, and sometimes walking to the bathroom is too much for me and I'm in tears from the pain. Heck, I spent less than 10 minutes making myself something to eat earlier today and I WAS in pain because of it. I've already decided that since I now have the referrals I needed, I will not be going back to him due to how unheard and unseen he made me feel. Look, I know I'm fat, and to many people that is an unacceptable thing, but my body is so broken down from things that I cannot control that have eff all to do with my weight. To add insult to injury, I had, just hours before, literally had a midline (fancy term for a longer lasting IV, but not as long lasting as a PICC line) pulled from my arm that morning, because I had been in the hospital for 5 days the week before due to a kidney infection that almost went septic and had to be on IV antibiotics. Clearly this doctor did not know how to read the room.
))): I'm sorry to hear that hun... wish you well, & peace 🫶 i hate how that doctor treated you, u didn't deserve that!!
Glad you know you don't have to force yourself to continue to visit a doctor who refuses to listen to you. Being overweight is not automatically the worst health problem and cause of all your other problems, and it shouldn't be the thing that healthcare professionals obsess over every time you visit.
@@HazooToo You know, as crummy as that doctor was and how horrible he made me feel (there is so much more to the story, but I didn't have the spoons to write a whole dissertation, lol) the plain and simple fact that I can comment in spaces like this and get support, rather than the internets typical diatribe of how I'm wrong and any fat is bad and that I'm just a burden, makes me feel so much better. I have been a part of the HAES and Fat Acceptance movements for years now, but I'm only human and can only take so much negativity before I end up spiraling. So thank you so much for being an internet ally!
I've never liked reality TV, even when I was a kid. Maybe it's because of my autism, but I just can't fathom how people can watch a show where a grown woman, who sounds like she smokes 20 packs of cigarettes a day, literally SCREAMS at innocent children, making them cry ... and consider that entertainment.
So, I'm working while listening to this and I cant be the only one who noticed that Jojo and ALM speak with the same cadence and inflections. Must be all that *positive* influence/s
funny you mentioned this because i was also just listening and her sounding like Jojo was driving me bonkers. hahaha
They both also have that same raspy, bugling voice. Sounds like bawling cattle when they yell.
Some people deal with abuse by looking back and realising their abuser was wrong and there was nothing wrong with themself. Some deal with abuse by convincing themself they were wrong and their abuser was right. You can tell which one Jojo did. I hope one day she can see the truth and heal because right now she is repeating the cycle.
@@eevee2411I mean Jojo thinking Abby's treatment and disrespect is normal comes from the fact her mom was treating her the same exact way at home. Her dad failed to protect her from her mom and Abby. Saddening that she too became just like both of them, disgusting abusers who think it's okay to traumatize children
@@eevee2411 I am stuck in the latter because there are too many examples
I live in Pgh, and I was a dance mom to a competitive Scottish highland dancer, during the Dance Moms show. In our school, the moms all got along, as did our kids , even though they frequently competed against each other. And we all still are friends. The kids were always supportive of each other (and are still friends, although are now adults , living their lives in different parts of the country), and the parents still volunteer at dance competitions and other events. When the show was running, we all were glad that the dance teachers that taught our kids were nothing like Abby, and that we were nothing like those moms.
@@Iwasnevermeanttobehere My daughter may have been someone who have taught, because she took ballet, as well as highland dance. She fenced, too.
I was just watching Adam McIntyre's new video and he praises how amazing you and your team were last year during your interview
While I've not been in dance religiously, I’ve taken several ballet, hip hop, and modern dance classes growing up and NONE of those teachers ever screamed at me or the other kids dancing with me. They could be strict, but there is a very clear difference between strict and abusive.
What makes me sick and angry is that Abby Lee has this sense of entitlement over her victims, that they should be grateful for her "making them who they are". The fact is this; no one owes her a damn thing. She was an abusive psychotic drill sergeant joke of a teacher, and while she may have played a part in building those careers for those girls, they don't owe her anything. If they don't want to associate with Abby, then they have a right to do so.
It's reminiscent of how abusive parents or partners will treat you like you owe them something, that you should be grateful to them for providing for you and that without them you would be nothing aka gaslighting. Which isn’t true at all, their talent made those girls who they are and Abby is an awful person.
Final comment, please take care of yourself Swoop. Love you ❤
Thank you, Swoop. I am a survivor/fighter of 32 years of EDs. My mind plays tricks on me daily & today has been an especially rough day. Thank you for saying the things that others aren't strong enough or willing to say. You're fkn INCREDIBLE!!! Luv ya, sweetheart ✌️🫶
(Sweetheart isn't disrespectful, I'm Southern, and it's from a place of pure love)
People used to tell me I was judgmental for never being shy about how I found Dance Moms to be exploitative and abusive of children. In fact, I’ve ever liked reality TV, it always felt fake and I told people that true reality TV is impossible unless the footage is live and unedited, but very few are like that.
I never liked reality TV either, and my dads family was obsessed with survivor. The only 1 I came to later in Was Drag Race.
@@SaintShion yeah, I like Drag Race too, but even the queens are honest that the show is not really reality because it’s a competition.
@@auberginebear Same, I stay out the fandoms, though. When I lived Japan & Mexico (for work), I'd watch it w my mom and brother. It's 1 of our ways to stay connected when they didn't visit.
My brother and I also watch YT drag shows together, too. If you haven't seen them, I'd definitely suggest the Boulet Brothers. They're very real, too.
(We also watch La Más Draga, too, on YT. it's hilarious!)
@@SaintShion I knew someone on S2 of Dragula, he was not edited to be the jerk he came off as and I wasn’t surprised they got rid of him in I think the 2nd or 3rd episode.
Even the live reality shows tend to have at least one or two people playing a character with or without inside info.
WELCOME BACK SWOOP!!
My mom and I used to watch Dance Moms. She was mostly watching it for validation to feel better if she felt like a bad mom ("at least I don't let my kids get screamed at" type beat) and we'd have conversations on how to avoid those scenarios and that kind of person
Awh that's actually really cute
That seems like the perfect way to handle things like this: to talk openly and honestly about it. Your mom did what I wish everyone would do, she had that conversation regardless of how/if it was an "uncomfortable" topic. ❤❤❤
@@lillachrissay5564 aw agreed!! well said bro ❣❣❣
Your ability to provide amazingly insightful yet factual information with the perfect touch of petty & humour is what makes you such a perfect storyteller. The second your video ends I am always eager for the next Swoop doc here or on your other channel.
Thank you for your research, your ethics and the care you show in every single video. I genuinely think the hardest thing for people to grasp is empathy and that is something you do so so well & with so much care.
I hope you continue to heal physically and emotionally and please make sure you prioritize yourself. From myself & the Smoosh Face Gang (it's what my fiancé & I call our 9 cats 😸) we are sending you happy thoughts, healing vibes & joy.
Absolutely makes me sick how greedy people exploited their children & actually allowed their children to be abused constantly at such a young age
OMG, Swoop, I am so sorry!! This news brought me to tears to hear this. Please know that you are not alone! I have been through something similar. Take as much time as you need. We aren't going anywhere! You aren't just a TH-cam channel to us. You are a genuine, strong, brave, beautiful & talented woman. And we love & care about you & your well-being. Thank you for sharing, especially when you didn't have to. Your honesty & compassion are what make you so relatable to the rest of us. And we respect you so much!!! I just bought a ribcage hoodie can't wait to receive it ❤
i just wanted to give some added context about the OG mothers of the show.
Mothers like Christ & Kelly HAD wanted to leave after the treatment for their daughters got worse and seeing how their dance teacher and the production was setting them up to fail for a television storyline, however were not able to as they were bound by contact. This is also why Abby’s treatment for the girls such as Paige & Chloe got worse because Abby wasn’t contractually allowed to kick any of the girls off the team just as the mother’s weren’t allowed to leave with their children which Abby used to her twisted advantage to berate and humiliate the children who she didn’t like in retaliation to the mothers that she wasn’t fond of. Abby also had her own contract where you weren’t allowed to leave her studio if your child won a title underneath her or you would be sued 100k, they signed contacts with abby that she basically owned their child for a year/ the dance season. Due to this, it wasn’t particularly easy for these mothers to leave when things went bad.
Not to victim blame but they signed it. They read the contract. If they thought it was that detrimental for their children they would have paid the money and pulled them out.
Do you have a spare 100k + what ever else you’d be sued for breaking contract? Also when the OG mothers originally signed it was a 6 episode docu series and then the show got picked up + ordered more episodes before the first season even came out. The whole purpose of my comment was to highlight that it really wasn’t that easy to leave once they were locked in. Revealed in her ‘Back To The Barre’ podcast when Kelly would have her outbursts and ‘leave’ the show, she would essentially get threats from production and was forced to come back to filming as she HAD to since she was under contract.
I’m actually surprised by this.
Like if the mothers signed it. Bur the girls themselves wanted to quit they couldn’t ? That’s wild.
Brooke and Chloe could not leave the studio because they were title holders as well which makes it really sad. Brooke was also lonely because all of her friends her age had moved on from dance and she was forced to dance with her sister, granted she once danced with the senior company but Lifetime did not want Brooke to stay there and dance with her sister. As for Chloe, Abby was cruel excluding Chloe, trying to get Chloe to lose, first to Maddie with the same solo, then with Kamryn (season 4 select team) not once but twice. She also made fun of Chloe’s Silent Sinus Syndrome.
@@moonwalkerangel7008 clock it!
America's Sweethearts: Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders on Netflix is another horror story. " NFL cheerleaders typically earn around $75 to $150 per game, with an average yearly salary of about $22,500" This is very very sad 😞
I haven’t seen the show, isn’t cheerleading an after work activity? Wouldn’t they have jobs as well as cheerleading?
@@amymckay23 Yes they HAD to have day jobs to survive while following their cheer dreams~~
@@amymckay23 yeah they do have other full careers but the amount of intense training they have to do and keeping up their looks is worth more than what they earn
I’m glad this is finally being brought to the public’s attention. Why would the NFL cheerleaders (of all teams not just DCC) not receive equal or even just SIMILAR pay to the NFL football players?? They deserve a salary pay for all the work they do plus appearances… It’s ridiculous.
@amymckay23 then the people playing the sport shouldn't get paid more than that either.
Swoop, I have been a loyal follower (and Petty University customer) of yours for 3 years..I had NO idea u went through what you went througj recently..from the bottom of my heart I am SO very sorry and I hope you're getting the help u need and deserve...we are ALL here for you Professor Petty ❤❤❤
Swoop, you take time and heal. We all love you so much and your well being is of the utmost importance.
As a Pittsburgher, we don't claim her
I think she cares if you do or not !!
Thank you so much for the update Swoop. To see that you're safe and healing makes me feel so much better. We'll always be here for you and remember hun... it's not your fault. It's never your fault. And you are loved.
As someone who grew up playing the clarinet, figure skating, dancing, skiing, and was also a girl scout i’m scared 😭
Oh god we got another one LOL
I have been saying this for years which is why i refused to watch shows like Dance moms or 'toddlers and tiaras'
These moms are AWFUL. Why would you want to put your own child or any child through this! Just let kids be kids.
Same. I refuse to watch reality tv about kids for the same reason I won't watch family vloggers; I know the kids won't be treated with dignity and will absolutely be messed up by the end of it, and it makes me sick to watch it happen
not to defend all the moms on the show (especially not the ones who brought their kids on the show after it started airing), but i will say for the original moms, they were pitched a completely different show and had no idea it would become what it was. they got locked into long-term contracts and had no idea what they were doing. most of them weren't paid well at all for several seasons. a few of the moms had to initiate huge altercations in order to be let off the show (see: kelly, kristi). so i do have sympathy for the original moms who didn't know what they were getting into and then tried to get out. it's the moms who stayed for seasons and the moms who came in late that i really heavily critique.
Well to be fair children do have to learn things but those things are things like how to cook how to clean how to do finances how to be emotionally and mentally mature. That is part of being a kid you have to learn how to be an adult but yeah none of these things are things they need to learn and none of these things are ways that anybody should be treated child or adult
I cant watch them either. The sexualisation/adultification also makes me very uncomfortable.
@@impposter560Same. I also stopped watching kid shows/movies or "family" shows/movies with child actors years ago after I realised, that Hollywood had no intention to tackle the abuse/exploitation going on behind the scene. I hate the idea, that my joy is built on other children's suffering.
thank you for your side remarks and for saying the things you needed to hear at different points in life, you don’t know how many people you’re helping. me included.
I've had to cut off part of my own family to avoid toxic narcissistic behavior and it was hard and took me until my late 30s but so so so fucking worth it. I've made my own family and your family doesn't have to be biologically related.
THANK YOU Professor Petty!!! So happy to see you back!! I, along w thousands of other fans love you & will forever have your back!!!
Oh Swoop, your comments on body dysmorphia had me tearing up. I needed to hear that today ❤
When referring to maddie’s kiss, i can’t help but think of that time that this exact situation played out on a Nickelodeon set 👀
As a guy, seeing what Abby did was SO f*cked up.
Just to be clear, what Nick show was it? Did it involve Dan Schneider?
The Queen of Petty is back! I hope you're doing well, Swoop. Take all the time you need to heal. Your health is the most important thing, both physically, mentally, and emotionally.
Swoop I hope you’re healing mentally and physically ❤ also would you ever do a documentary about Todrick Hall?
Missed you! Keep on healing queen SWOOP!
Love you, Swoop. Hope you're doing well and know how much you're loved and appreciated.
We love and support you Swoop.
Grateful you’re still here and still sharing life with us.
Take all the time you need to heal.
We will be here. 💚
that little body positive pep talk was so key 🥹🥰
SWOOP!! I found your channel less than a year ago while going over either gyspy rose or the idaho murders, cant remember. but, you give off some of the most regal, graceful, kind and sincere energy. I have literally never used this "thanks" feature before but I truly think you deserve it, and I want you to know how impactful it can be to watch someone be so open and vulnerable for so many people as someone who struggles to do it with even my closest friends, and as someone who hasnt had to go through half as much. dont push yourself past your limits. Im so glad youre feeling somewhat better, and so inspired by you every time I watch, the effort and care is noticeable and appreciated. you are ethreal and I wish you as painless and as total healing as possible. much love from boise ❤
JUST IN TIME FOR A TREADMILL WORKOUT! Thank you for all you and your team do Swoop!
thank you for reminding me to watch this on my Treadmill
The way you can deliver an insanely researched doc with dark subjects but make it informative, enlightening, and positive is an art form 💜💜 I’m so sorry to hear what you have been fighting through recently swoop. Sending you love and light. Thank you for always shining.
Just that small clip in the beginning I wasn't expecting this. Thank you. You seem very strong and humble and that can be rare these days. I'm glad that you have supportive people around. For me just hearing you express the gratitude...wow thank you. I don't know you but what encouragement you just passed on. Lately I've been fighting some battles myself and I do well but hearing you be real for a few minutes strengthens me to the core. Again thank you and I wish you the best. Keep Swooping. You're an excellent raconteur. Know you have a fan that sends his support and gratitude your way. Stay strong. 😊
Your strength and badass attitude to keep on keepin' on brings me to tears. Please take all the time you need to heal, knowing we'll all be here whenever you're ready to do what I truly believe you were born to do. Love you Swoop
I'm SO GLAD you're feeling better after what you've been through! Take all the time you need to recoup - we'll all be here cheering you on!
Get your notebooks out, people! Professor Petty has arrived! I am ready for petty!
Retty for petty
@@irismoon8435🎵I don't think you're retty for this petty🎵😂
We missed you Swoop. Hope you are doing better and thanks for supplying us with content.
I’ve genuinely thought of & prayed for you so many times after that community post. You do SO much to support & speak up for so many, you deserve the same back. I don’t have social but on that community & your swoop too video I’ve said to give yourself the same care & grace you’d tell someone else to for themselves. That helps me at times. Glad to see ya back & I continue to wish you healing & peace.💜💜💜
I'm so happy to see you again swoop. Glad to hear you're doing better. Take as much time as you need. Your community will always be here for you.
Auntie Swoop, you are incredibly strong and talented. You are doing the lord's work omg. You have survived so much, and I wish you the best in your healing. Taking the time to thank us and let us know we're not alone was so kind and thoughtful of you. We truly don't deserve you omg. Sending lots of hugs.
I'm so glad you're okay, I've always looked up to you and always felt inspired by how supportive you are for people that have gone through trauma such as yourself. Thank you for being there for us, thank you for being you. You are Valid, we are all Valid. We'll always be here behind you, and support you! We love you SWOOP!!!
1:10:21 you do not know how much I needed this message. I’m 2 years into the hit show of grief and I am not in my best body shape… I needed this thank you Swoop
Swoop I'm sending you all the love and support. I'm happy to see this doc, but I care even more for your well-being 💜
I hope all those parents have apologized to their children for putting them through all that.
I've listened to your body speech in the second to last section more than once now. You have no idea how much I need to hear that, Swoop. I could go on about the reasons why, but all I really wanted to say is thank you. I hope you know your own worth too. I'm sorry you've gone through too much over the last while especially. YOU are a champion and so worthy too ❤
1:10:02 as someone in recovery from an ED, this made me tear up. Needed to hear this, SWOOP 💕hope you’re feeling better.
Hope YOU'RE doing better, sis❤
Let me preface by saying
Welcome back SWOOP it's great to see you again, hope your feeling better, take all the time you need, no shame taking time away. Happy you're back and can't wait to see Professor petty again.❤️
I don't get how Abby wasn't called out sooner. Actually, I do get it, it was "funny" to some people, and it doesn't register for some that even tho it's "reality" T.V, those are still real people, real children. And if they did realize it,the probably didn't care. It's so blatantly obvious from just one minute of watching how Abby interacts with the children how abusive and manipulative she was. There are so many scenes of her screaming at CHILDREN, the "comforting" them, and giving them gifts. I am a survivor of CSA,and one of the tactics my abuser used was they, hurt me physically and or emotionally, then would love bomb me with gifts and praise, which made me think, "hey it's not all bad, if I stick it out, it'll get better."
These are children, children who were put in compromising situations, and weren't allowed to express that, everything was on the line for these kids and their parents, and one slip up could break your career, Abby lost nothing if she fired them.
It sickens and breaks my heart to say that in entertainment, a child is still seen as worth less than an adult, I've done dance and choir, what these girls experienced is not uncommon, it happens so much to the point it's normal. Abby just kicked it into high gear but putting it on national T.V for people to enjoy some else's suffering, and spreading the message that "it was fine to do this, it's normal" Normal does not mean morally correct.
Abby should have never been around kids plain and simple.
I am SO sorry to hear about the ‘update’ 😢 I hope you’re doing okay and sending love!! 💛
I really appreciate what you said about setting firm boundaries. I'm a therapist and work with clients on boundaries all the time. That being said, I had to set a hard boundary, just like you said, and walk away from a very toxic friendship in my life. It feels horrible to "cut someone out" without an explanation. But if giving the explanation opens the door to being treated even worse, it's best just to walk away. When you are a kind, compassionate person, walking away without explanation feels impossible. It hurts deeply to cut the tie and leave, but is so necessary for your own safety and even survival. I think your statements were validating and important for many of your viewers. Thank you Swoop!!
I'm so happy to hear you're OK Swoop, and give Mama Swoop a giant hug and kiss for being amazing and helping you through this horrible time. 🖤❤️🖤
a SWOOP doc on dance moms! MY DAY HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN MADE!
Another great documentary. As a biracial woman + survivor myself, I look up to you and your platform. I love seeing you thrive and your creativity is so beautiful to witness fluorish. Recently heard Adam McIntyre confirm that you are just as real behind the scenes. Wishing you love and light from miles away through a screen. :)
I'm so thankful that you are starting to feel better and have gotten the chance to take the break you deserved and needed. I hope this continues in the same way and that you are able to continue feeling better, no matter how long it takes you. You are valid and all the time you need to feel better is yours to take. You got this, all the love and well wishes.
we love you❤ thank you for your check in❤ you’re so strong and we are so proud of you for taking the time you need and deserve ❤
My favorite part of this video was Swoop's update by far. So happy to see she's recovering and taking care of herself to come back to what makes her feel most inspired ❤❤
Swoop every time you talk about Ed’s and being valid you make me cry so much thank you for reminding us we are worthy i love you swoop you are so amazing
We love you Swoop, am so sorry this happened to you, you're an absolute superstar. I am so thankful you are here, making entertainment for us. I get literal chills of excitement when I hear 'This is what we know'
I had one damce teacher who reminded me that l was the bigger girl the odd one out. As an adult l hate to admit it. l watched dance moms, and l noticed she became unhinged around season 2. Chloe, Nia, and Brooke were my favourites. All the moms seemed over the top. Near the end the seasons become a repeat.
My heart goes out to all the dancers that had to suffer the attacks the abuse. You guys are brave worthy and beautiful your so strong. Thank you swoop your storytelling is amazing 👏 ❤
Omg Swoop, I wondered where you've been, I must've missed that update. I'm so sorry that happened and I'm glad you're feeling a bit better. You take all the time you need to take care of yourself. You're not alone and you're loved ❤ As always, amazing work on this doc
I am genuinely sorry to hear about what happened to you, Swoop. I'm glad you are doing better. Take care of yourself, and remember that you are never alone. Thank you for making the Abby documentary.
Thank you as always for your kindness and wisdom to this space and everyone who may come across it. I am a firm believer in reminding others what they already know and reassuring those that need it. Its the most difficult thing to do for yourself, so when you do it for others, and they reciprocate, more people can feel seen, heard, and gain some healing from their trauma. There's so many of us out there, and it helps that, even in passing, even if none of us will ever speak to or know each other personally, people can still show that basic kindness a lot of people were trained out of. Much love to you, Swoop. 💜
I really appreciate how you always take the time to uplift and support us even in your darkest moments. You really help me with my ED and trauma so thank you. You are worthy, you are a hero, you are valid and you are AMAZING just as you are ❤
No words can take away your pain... however... we are here to support you in any way we can. Sending you all the love, positive and healing vibes. 🫶🏼
SO well said! I’ve got a whole family of chronic pain patients… we all know words don’t do much, but the encouragement? That does works of wonders ❤
Hi SWOOP! First of all, this is a great doc, and i really appreciate the work you put into your content. Secondly, welcome back. < 3 Wishing you a lot of love and light!
I just wanted to correct some information in here, because I think it paints a different picture -
Chloe was kicked out BY ABBY, not production. THat contract was ABBY'S contract, not productions. During the filming of season 4, Chloe was not a member of the studio OUTSIDE of the show. She had to pretend the ALDC was still her studio, even though it wasn't because she was still contracted with the show. Chloe left the show because, towards the end of season 4, Chloe started suffering from some strange symptoms that ended up being a result of something called Silent Sinus Syndrome. But at the time, she was undergoing a lot of tests to find out why one of her eyes seemed to be smaller than the other. Abby, on Chloe's last episode, screamed at Christi that she needed to 'get Chloe's lazy eye fixed, because it's ugly.' This was edited out of the show, but it's been confirmed by Christi, Chloe, Cathy and some of the Candy Apple Moms. That was CHristi's last straw, and she fought to get out of her contract. :)
After bringing up 4 daughters, I will never understand why a mother would put her children through so much pressure and in this case abuse! No amount of money or stardom is worth that. If your child wants to pursue anything, they will, just give them time, confidence and they’ll do the rest. A parent who lives through their child, has immediately failed their child.
Been thinking this. If I were a mom on the show, I wouldn’t have kept my daughter in that environment for more than a day.
I am so glad to see the update you posted in this doc. Hope the healing and recovery continues, sending you love light and positivity. As a former competitive dancer, i was truly lucky that my dance teacher was not this way. However, it was so very common to see the toxicity from the teachers( abusive as hell) as well as the other "dance moms". They (the mothers) were truly living their dream vicariously through their children. Even as a young kid never understood how behavior like that was accepted. Yet it was so prevalent throught the dance/ cheer/ ice skating communities.
So glad to see your update, Swoop. Take as much time as you need, we're not going anywhere. And remember you're an incredible person who is so strong. We stan our queen! 🎉
Hi Swoop, I’m doing that now. I’m getting help from mental health. I lost my grandson to all drowning two years ago and I kind of check out a lot of times. Sending you love light and prayers hoping that you’re doing better.❤ I really couldn’t stand to watch this all the yelling and shouting the same like housewives didn’t they worry about their kids being sold on the black market I never watched it so I don’t know