Space Hulk: The Warhammer game nobody asked for - yet always sells out
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This week, we dive in to the history and lore of the now historical legendary warhammer 40k board game: Space Hulk
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Still GW's best gateway game together with Blood Bowl.
Ive played many of GWs games since getting into the hobby in 2020, from 40k to many versions of KT, Aeronautica, Legions, Space Hulk and finally Blood Bowl recently. My god it is amazing to me how good blood bowl is as a game. I do think it is by far GWs best design and the rules being mostly the same after decades from what I can tell just makes it even more clear how well tested it is.
Space Hulk is awesome and the rules are not written by mentally ill people like the standard 40K rules are, so this game is actually playable just like One Page Rules.
Agreed! Space Hulk got me interested in 40k, used to play fantasy battles back then. But Blood Bowl is the better game in the long run in my opinion, eventhough not as easy to pick up.
Yeah, BB first then SH second :)
Actually space hulk and talisman far predated blood bowl.
I love the design of the genestealers being blips on the board until they enter the FOV. Some blips contain no genestealers and some are absolutely packed. The asymmetry is absolutely brilliant.
The blips mechanic is one of my absolute favorites of any board game ever.
Exactly. The game is incredibly asymmetric but surprisingly balanced.
Nuts! wargame has similar mechanic where you throw dice on every encounter with potential enemy. Result from the table can vary from nothing to enemy heavy tank.
Space Hulk was my way into Games Workshop, many moons ago. I painted lots of the genestealers. I quit the hobby in the early 90s so was blown away by the quality of the modern miniatures when I started again, during the Pandemic.
sounds exactly like my story. got the game start of the 90s and only just returned to minis and GW
Same here! I haven't started collecting again but was amazed to find that GW & 40k had turned into massive thing 30yrs later.
The 1995 edition of Necromunda was an AMAZING starting point for tabletop gaming. Simple minis, investment in making your squad your own with the light RPG elements, and a game you could play in 45 minutes rather than hours. Quick and portable 3D terrain with the bulk heads and cardboard system they had
I wish they would go back to that thinking with Necromunda. Its rules are kind of a mess.
And don't forget the crazy Gorkamorka for Spaceorc Fans ;-)
@@photonfartsqueeze6694I loved the first edition of Necromunda as it followed the exact same rules with a few extras as 2nd edition 40K. And I think that was great! And I still think those were the best rules, when every single miniature counted as an individual. And when Games Workshop announced the 3edition of 40K I played it once, did not like it at all and immediately dropped the hobby out of protest. Wisest move ever! 😂
Vengeance of the blood angels for the playstation was my introduction into 40k. The manual was a phonebook and it BLEW MY MIND that there was so much lore about the universe the game was in and the lifecycle of the genestealers. Then I popped the game in and played the intro. In my basement, at night, in the dark. Which in retrospect was probably not a good idea.
Space Hulk and Space Crusade were my introduction to the 40k universe...never got into the tabletop side of 40k...but I'd play either SH or SC in a heartbeat today
There is an idea for you Squidmar. Build a 3d Space Hulk board set, sectional and plug and play like the game's flat cards. Me and a friend did a set like that sculpted from appliance styrofoam for corridors and painted them for a bit more 3d feel to the landscape. Which we donated to the game store for their gaming room. It was actually fairly simple doing them section by section like the flat game cutouts.
At local conventions we used to use both our sets to run double blind Tournament. We had 2 tables with matching maps and a divider between them. Meaning other than the blip markers, you couldn't see the opponents unless it was in line of sight. It was always a hit when we ran it. That and Death World free for all match we'd run.
There are old rules for regular non-Terminator marines, and other Tyranids. We even did a Chaos Marine version, with it being a Chaos hulk. Sure you could adapt any faction to it. The hard part would be figuring out troop sizes for each side. You'd need a lot of Guardsmen to face Genestealers with the close combat nature to even have a chance, but that could be really fun.
I remember playing Space hulk when it came out in 1989 and loved it.
You should have seen the 3D game board layout we made, it was huge sometimes 6 levels with several different objectives and took up a whole 4' × 8' table
these are some of my favorite Squidmar videos, I love when Emil geeks out over a game. Also love learning the history of this stuff!
When this launched back in 1989 - it was an instant purchase. Followed by the expansions Genestealer and Deathwing. Still have the three and they are still epic.
I LITERALLY went on a shopping spree in the past few months buying Blood Angels Space Hulk minis because of "Vengeance of The Blood Angels" on Playstation. I now have 21 Space Hulk Terminators & barely painted 2. & when I say "Painted" I mean just primed black lmao
black prime- you already did that step so drybrush white-then use speed paint, i love army painter speed paint, I think its the best (sometimes called translucent paint) one layer of whatever colors you want to use, thats all- done. Its called the slap chop and its easy and fast- just learning how to dry brush properly is the only thing you actually have to do(if you want it to look better)- speed paint hides alot of mistakes and looks like you're way better than you actually are.
The dead terminator marker is still one of my favorite molds GW has ever made! Another great video, also will the Atle miniature ever be restocked on your website?
I love this type of video going over older games. History keep up the good work
I like overview videos like this, they are very useful for people who are trying to figure out which games to look into or put the effort into trying to track down.
Best summary and explanation I have ever seen of this game. As an OG player of this game, I love the coverage you have given of this.
I love how you guys are diversifying your content, it keeps the channel fresh and fun!
Love that you've done a deep dive into this. Between this, startquest, space crusade and hero quest...what a collection
I still have Space Crusade which was the brother to Heroquest. Such a great game. Actually to be honest both Heroquest and Space Crusade were both great games. Very easy to follow gameplay and just the right amount of lore and rules. They were both marketed at the family and kids level and I can remember walking into KMart and seeing them both on the shelf and being blown away by the box art and the minis. I convinced my mum to get me Heroquest for my birthday but I missed out on Space Crusade. Years later though I picked it up at a flea market complete and I still have it. Great game. Will have to look into Space Hulk.
Its one of those games you can pick up when the mood takes you and play a quick game. No massive set up, huge table, scenery hundreds of models....
Its tactical, challenging, atmospheric and ultimately great fun. What mkre do you want 🎉
Boy did that bring back memories. Great video concept and excellent video as always. Would love to see one on history of Blood Bowl.
Necromunda is amazing. Really indepth and super thematic. Love it so much. Plus the models look great and give a great vibe
I absolutely love Space Hulk. I have a copy of Space Hulk v2 and two copies of Space Hulk v3. It is just a fantastic, tense and thematic time. Tight, economical rules and incredible atmosphere. I will never tire of this game.
I must dig out my boxed set.
Bought it in 2009, stopped painting/playing/collected just after it arrived (kids!!)
I still have half of the Termies (gave a few to a mate) and the stealers.
this and blood bowl got me into warhammer a long time a go so it will always have a place for me, infact just recently i remade the spacehulk ship hallways on a resin printer as a diorama piece for the modern versions of the GW minis all painted in a grimdark style
Blood Bowl, Dark Future and Space Hulk were weekly game nights between my friends group in the late 80s/early 90s. Dark Future was my favourite, then Blood Bowl.
Just played a large 12 player game a couple of weekends ago at a local convention and had a blast. I've painted up many a terminator and my friend runs games at Origins and Gencon occasionally.
Back in '89, Space Hulk introduced me to GW. I'd painted minis for about 5 years before then, but never GW minis. I'm still painting and playing them! But seriously, When Space Hulk launched, "Aliens" was still kind of fresh, so the 'blips' got your heart racing! Great game. Still have a copy of the 2009 edition, and my current Tyranids army is using a unit of 10 Genestealers from that edition :)
Well this is the game that got me started in Warhammer 40K back in 1989. Had gone to the Origins gaming convention back in 1989 in Los Angeles and Game Workshop was showing this as a demo. Well I picked up a copy (which I still have) along with few blisters of Eldar and Space Marines (I still have those Eldar but sold the Space Marines). Well that game led me along a path to where I have five different 40K armies and later into 5 WFB armies.
Awesome videos as always. I wonder if we are due for another edition of Space Hulk soon.
I fell in love this game upon it's release. I created 3D tiles to use for the map and the Terminator figures instantly became and still are my favorite figures.
I remember getting the 2nd edition on release day in 1996, wish I still had it. Keep saying I'll but it again when/if they re-release it but never get it. They should release this again it's a great and easy to understand introduction to 40k, Great video.
Omg, I remember that game now.. Still got one in my attic from years ago
Love this history style videos! Especially as someone knew to GW and Warhammer.
Man I bought the 2009 Space hulk at my local store. Was the first 40k miniatures I painted! not counting a bunch of tau guys I didn't really paint as I had no idea what I was doing in 2004
Nostalgic man, you just took me down memory lane.
Outside of many early childhood hours of playing hero quest, space hulk was my first real intro to games workshop stuff so I have a lot of nostalgia of it. I didn't get to play much of it but I vividly remember the magazine ads in the 90s and I always lusted after owning a copy of the game.
I spent 2 summers playing this, Dark Future, Blood Bowl, Talisman and Hero Quest, there was also a epic scale introduction to wargaming with Titans, I can't for the life of me remember the name of that one.. The Space Hulk really caught our imagination, 3 out of 4 of my gaming friends bought it and yes, we amalgamated all 3 board games for a extra large hulk.
That's why i bought 2 sets of lost patrol. Now i can do 4 player matches.
Adeptus Titanicus?
Dark Future, god I miss that game. The Les Edwards artwork was amazing.
@@SnakeWorksStudio That's the one!
@@SussexMatt Agreed, I also loved the lore behind it, I still still have Jack Yeovil's route 666 book of short stories based on the game world.
I was very lucky to get 2nd edition Space hulk for Christmas back in like 93. Was the best Christmas gift ever.
I been into warhammer since early 90s and the 96 version was my first experience of actually playing a game. I got the 2009 version when it came out and spent a kong time on the models and painting the plastic door way holders and other accessories. Still have it and love it. Game and concept are easy to learn. Set up takes a while if you stick to the scenarios but swapping factions keeps it fresh. Would love expansions for it.
Absolutely love space hulk ! One of my first games and have every edition. Great video Squidmar!
I was lucky enough to win a copy of the Original Space Hulk in a contest in White Dwarf magazine back in 1989. Loved this game, and Adeptus Titanicus.
My intro to 40k way back - loved it. Still have the first edition in the attic!
Still got all my OG boxes. Space Hulk, 40k 2nd, warhammer 4th, blood bowl w/death zone, necromunda, etc. Treasures!
The zoom in on the orange guy had me crackin 🤣
This triggers memories, even though i never followed up with play after receiving a kit. Seeing the box-art already immediately provoked an immediate sense of involvement and immersion somehow. Even as we laid out the miniatures to play with rules we didn't quite understand, i was fully in the world. It's hard to explain. It is comparable to reading the illustrated manual of a gameboy game, and you are fully there, even though the game looks absolutely nothing like the manual :) It was immersion I do miss.
I played a ton of the 1st edition as a kid back in the day. Great stuff
I've collected all of the rulebooks, miniatures, status markers, and player aids for the 4th edition of Space Hulk, not without some considerable cost! I put all of the models on 40mm circular bases, and made my own tiles at 150% of the original size so that the larger bases will fit. I've painted all of the models except for the Librarian. The only model I'm missing is the dead Terminator on the throne. Those are hard to find at even a somewhat high price! It's a great game, and worth all of the money and time I spent putting it together.
Thanks, this bring back nostalgic memories
I had one from the 90's with red yellow and blue plastic Space Marines figures against Genestealers. I think it had a Dolf Lundgren looking guy on the front wearing, i think, white power armour.
My brother had both the Amiga game and the board game. And i loved playing both
Man, I remember the tabletop games so well. I was so glad you could play them solo, as I could rarely convince anyone to play it with me :(
The computer versions were ok.. There was actually a Space Crusade game for early home computers that predated the Space Hulk one, could well be the first ever GW licensed game.
I love all of Squidmar's videos.
Looking forward for your Mordheim content with much enthusiasm. Being and incurable oldhammer fan I managed to collect over 30 original Sisters of Sigmar miniatures for an upcoming campaign in my local gaming club...
Games Workshop did some smaller, simpler boxed games in the late 80s/early 90s which were good entry level games. Main one I can recall the name of was Ultramarines which I had and still wish I did as the eBay prices are crazy. Others were Kerrunch, Space Fleet and Mighty Warriors.
Man I miss this game! Let's not forget the spaceship combat system as well! Loved the mini's and love the idea!
I had the 1st edition in 89 with expansions. I let those go on eBay after I got the 2nd edition, which I still have. I should have kept the 1st edition, but...
We added Termagants. They moved like Genestealers and fired weapons like a Terminator. I think the Termagants models had fleshborers. One Termagant showed up with the 0 (zero) blip.
The 80's and 90s were a great time for gaming.
I got this game when it came out in 1989 and me and my friends played it incessantly, and the Deathwing expansion. Awesome game, great minatures.
Loved SpaceHulk, i actually won a copy in White Dwarf magazine, around the time the game was released, and i recall playing it at school during free periods with friends, though i used my metal terminators most of the time because those plastic ones just looked so derpy, the aliens looked amazing though, still do!
Fun trivia, the librarian terminator in Space hulk is calistarius, Mephiston before the black rage and his recovery
I like your videos. I produced the 1st video game version of Space Hulk. Around the time 8 bit and 16 bit games, they were the only PCs then.
I played the Starquest with friends in the early 90th. Nice memories.
Awesome game
I have it (the last version)and play with my mom and we love doing each scenario on both sides. Always cool games.
Simple rules and great materials aswell as nice storyline.
I'm just getting into 40k, I've only played Kill Team and Blood Bowl before and I gotta say, Blood Bowl is one of the most fun table top game I've ever played
I'd love to see your take on a 3d version of the tiles and painted models in Space Hulk!
The first game I bought from game workshop in 1989! Paint it 2 times and play maybe 20 games but so nice.
I bought quite a lot of Witchsong miniatures (and printed all leoren race) it really is perfect and almost don t need any effort to assemble once it is printed !
I remember playing Vengeance of the Blood Angels on my ps1. At the start of the game if you chose to be the Marine called Octavius you got some special dialogue that the other characters didn't get. As you fought through the corridors one of the other Marines would occasionally say over the intercom. 'They are in the walls. I can smell them.' If your character was Octavius another Marine would speak up on the intercom and say. 'No. That's just Octavius.'
I got the goold old star quest at about 10 years old, so great
I remember 1996 Edition, in Spain, it was WD18, which came with a plastic terminator (I wonder if in the Brit edition they added a genestealer istead).
I think a lot of it is nostalgia from remembering the game from our childhood back when there wasn't a lot of these types of games (back then it was mostly Monopoly and those types of games). Same reason why Hero Quest is still so popular.
A lot of the old specialist games are nice. Necromunda, Warmaster, 40k Epic, Blood Bowl, Gorkamorka, Space Hulk, Mordheim etc. Often ones with an entire different scope and scale to the main game of the time.
Space Hulk is about lanes of fire and action point management for the marines, and tryin to overcome said lanes of fire or delaying the marines fr the aliens.
A friend of mine back in 88 had Adeptus Titanicus. I had him buy me the rogue trader imperial guard box set (which I still have the miniatures) next time he went to the GW shop in Glasgow. When I finally went I saw the new Space Hulk box. One of the first box games I bought. We played it all the time. If it wasn’t that it was Blood Bowl, Advanced Heroquest or Space Marine which I never realized had Al Pacino front and center. At that time it was much easier to pull out the box and play for a couple or three hours than 40k. I could never afford at that time to make a complete army. The box games were so much fun and sucked me into this hobby I’ve been part of on and off for getting close to 40 years. One of these days I’ll get all these bits of plastic painted.
I still have my Spacehulk along with the Deathwing expansion. Even have some miniatures as well.
Great video. I think that GeeDubs should use the made to order model to sell older games like Space Hulk. In that way they will know how many box sets they need to produce, keeps the scammers away & is a win win for everyone. Other games to do made to order with are Mordheim (25th Anniversary anybody), Warhammer Quest, man o war, etc
I bought this back in 1989 when it first came out, i loved it. The original Adeptus Titanicus is still my favourite though.
As a kid, I bought the 1st edition of Space Hulk from GW with a mail in order form that I found somewhere. This must have been late 1995/ early 1996. I had no idea the game was old or that a new 2nd edition was about to come out. So I would assume that the 1st edition was always available throughout its time and certainly didn't sell out instantly like the later editions in the era of online preordering and fomo marketing.
I had 2 copies of Genestealer and could never find board parts that were cut right.
This is the game that started it all for me, so much fun as a kid playing against my big bro, so good
you should look into starquest, also warhammer 40k setting on a spacehulk boardgame. it was my favorite in my youth. it has genstealers, necrons, chaos marines, orks and also a dreadknought. i wish i still had this
We've made a video on it already ;)
Worth a mention is Bill King's wonderful back story for the Deathwing expansion. I don't think it's ever been made available anywhere else (and has in any case been heavily retconned) but for me it's some of the best 40k fiction ever written.
That aside, the game is great fun, quick and easy to play, and the miniatures for the 3rd/4th edition are amazingly good. It's not the best GW standalone game ever - that honour belongs to Aeronautica Imperialis 2nd edition - but it's certainly near the top of the list.
I've bought this game 8 years ago and must admit I have never played it until today. Never found someone to play with. It is sitting in my cabin and waiting for the day my son will be old enough to play this!
Incredible video!
Please paint the old Space Crusade board game if you can find it somewhere, that's the babbys first wh40k and was quite popular at least here at finland, basically hero quest in space, I for one was obsessed with that game.
Space Hulk and Hero Quest are the two legendary games !
How about a little diorama to celebrate ?
The barbarian, dwarf, elf and wizard carving through waves of Genestealers in the narrow confines of a space hulk while a squad of Terminators smash through hordes of skeletons, fimirs and furniture in a dungeon.
My friend and I each bought a copy of the 2009 edition. We played with his on several occasions. Very fun game. Funny enough, my own copy of it is still shrink wrapped! LOL
Squid, it’s a legendary game. 90% of us just paint minis and never get to actually play. At least we can still play space hulk at home with a few beers :) with very little effort AND still be Space Marines.
Spent all my paper route money on this one in the summer of 1989 and absolutely loved it. The Deathwing expansion was icing on the cake and both got me super deep into playing 40k at the time. Not sure where my copy ended up, along with all the lead chaos daemons and all the rest it got shifted along somewhere along the way... But, you aren't wrong, Kill Team is and was the best GW game hands down!
I’m a huge Space Hulk fan. I possess 2nd and 3rd edition sets and enjoy both. I wish some of the mechanics of 2nd edition had been carried through to the 3rd and 4th editions. I feel SH could be developed further with shorter scenarios and map layouts or some sort of modular map construction like GW did with Tyranid Attack. I’d like to see you review MESBG which is another of my favourite games systems and doesn’t get the attention I think it deserves.
I agree with your editor, it’s Kill Team (2021 edition)
I purchased the 1st edition of Space Hulk on release back in the day, despite playing hundreds of modern Miniature/board games since, it remains my No.1 of all time, it’s a master piece! Marine tactics when played smart bring home plenty of wins, I’ve had many nail biters going right to the wire, so enjoyable…….Sadly it’s missing today on the GW shelves, so many new gamers coming into the hobby with no access to this classic 😢
I remember the first edition that came out in the late 80's. The reason it was popular was because it was a lot more simple to learn the rules and play it. It was more a board game than a role playing war game, like 40k or dungeons and dragons. And you didnt have to go to a Games Workshop store, or specialist model shop to buy it. Places like Argos and woolworths sold it too, along with other simpler GW games like Talisman Timescape and Hero-quest. GW had a little marketing strategy to get younger kids into their war gaming products without having to read 500 page complicated rule books with complicated strategies, that may put off some impatient kids at first
I know its a very simple board game (like snakes and ladders) but as a kid, i used to spends hours playing Talisman timescape, anyone could play it, from 5 year old kids to 80 year old grand parents. The rules where so simple , we used to love playing it in the evenings all through the school summer holidays. I probably still have it in the attic at my mum and dads house. They never did like to throw things away. One day when the house has to be cleared out, i will find many valuable toys and collectors items. My star wars toys will be worth a fortune because i know they are complete and in good condition, some even have the original boxes and packaging. It is a big collection that hasnt seen sunlight in over 40 years.
I played the original PC version of Space Hulk but didn’t own the boardgame until 3rd edition where I picked up 3 copies, gave 2 to friends and we would get together to run mass boarding actions 😅
The original Space Hulk was what got me into Warhammer. Would love a new box set for it as I lost my copy a long long time ago. Necromunda and Blood Bowl are my favourite Warhammer games.
Still have my 89 edition. Love it.
I liked that you put in the video from the best game on Amiga back in the day :P (note I have it on pc now).
I think one point you touched on though in the video that "you can play it solo even" is kind of a thing that makes this game also abit more appealing.
Not quite the same "exitment" in a Wh40k with so much to move and roll etc.
This is simple, blips - you never know what you get - like a Kinderegg!
The other aspect is that its "simple" enough that kids can play.
Meaning I played at times with my nephew that is 10 yrs younger than I, so he was what mabye 8-9 years old(so in 92-93?).
Tried playing Wh40k with him, but that was just too much.(we played that as he got older, but he was more into HQuest so we did play that later on).
As for suggestions, well there is an obscure game, maybe? from GW - Blood bowl.
I also think that was a more "fun & silly game", less serious in a sense than the "Grim darkness there is only war".
I dont know if its "profitable to make a video about that, as its most likely way niche" - and or if that you would find it intresting for yourself(which tbh imo is the most important aspect).
I loved Space Hulk back in the day, and I would still enjoy it if I had the game, but alas that was destroyed by some other nephews later on when I was in the army d'oh!
Sat here thinking I'd love to play this. Then I remember I've got Aliens: Another Glorious Day in the Corps plus expansions sat unpainted in the next room 😂. Interesting video, thanks.
Ha, painting the original metal terminator models for Space Hulk 30 years ago is where I started painting minis. Learning to paint minis again after 30 years is what brought me to Squidmar. 😄
I love my Zone Mortalis Necromunda boards purely to make proper Spacehulk boards... fun with my kids
Great video!