Thank you Patrick for mediating this conversation with her and I. It's been LONG overdue and I personally have so many regrets and so many things I wish just happened different. But they didn't and that's just life. It was time to be held accountable and totally honest and it feels really good. I'm glad we both got to hear each others sides and got the closure we needed. It feels like there was a weight lifted off of our backs. From watching the video you can tell how much love there is between you and I Dem. And how much Nats loves you too.. Which is why I'm happy he was there and got his closure for this also. If we didn't care, there wouldn't be this much emotion and acknowledgement, I'm usually really hard to pull any emotion from and you know that's just how I am, but doing this has helped me grow. I love you Demi, and thank you for that
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Look, there has been countless nights through the years that I went over so many scenarios trying to go over where it got so bad and where it got so ugly. Then there were so many nights I drafted paragraph long texts trying to put my emotions into words and wondering if "sorry" even transcended into the words I was unfolding to send you, Gigi. it was hard not having you around for many milestones, but it made me stronger. it helped me grow and it helped me mature into La Demi, and a lot of watching you grow up... inspired me to kill it in my career.. back in 2013, you taught me a lot behind the scenes. We were sisters, soulmates, and best friends... so when it all went cold and there was no closure, it was because I feel like we never knew how to tell each other "goodbye". it was something we never wanted to have to say so we held onto silence and the days turned into weeks, months, and now years. Gigi.... thank you for being real. for once in my heart sitting across from you looking into your eyes all these years later, "I apologize" and "im sorry" is all I ever wanted to hear, as im sure it was the same for you. Nats, your tears and shaky voice filled my heart that evening we filmed this because it showed me how much you cared and I remember on the way back home we shared an uber home and I grabbed your hand and squeezed it a few times trying to reassure you that the love is still there. I know how deeply you were involved through our arguments back then, knowing how close Gigi and I were and trying to learn how to navigate a love relationship beyond Gigi and I exuding so much life and spotlight non stop..... this filming helped me heal, turn the page, close the book, it helped me close that chapter of hurt and some of the many things I always wanted to say all this time. I was a kid and through the years I felt in debt, that I needed something in return for everything I ever gave you. truth is I was in debt to myself for not understanding this life is a 2 way street and if I don't ever communicate the deepest feelings, the other side will never ever know. Gigi, I love you too. thank you for helping me grow... a lot of the unapologetic "demi" was inspired by you as a young kid in Hollywood.
Demi is a grown woman, she is entitled to her opinions, feelings and thoughts. Nats had no business trying to correct her when she was expressing how she felt and what she was going through at all.
No room considerin Gigi said their friendship was overpowering her lyfe. Like how f big of a hater do u have 2 b 2 say dat 2 someone. 🤷🏾♀️ it b da closest ones 2 u. Nat should’ve kept it real n told her ass she was wrong 👏🏾
I think we found out that Nats is a huge big emotional baby boy and as much as he looks like he’s an asshole or just you don’t like the “too cool” attitude. I think now we know he feels hard. He just wants the best for both of them, as Gigi said and that’s all that matters. Haters gone hate
Nats being there was really giving real housewives husband. He shouldn’t have been provided the opportunity to say anything at all. The reconciling needed to happen between Gigi and Demi only.
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I totally understand how Demi feels. Someone can physically be with you through something but you can still feel like you're stepping on egg shells around them and have your guard up.
I don't know...this friendship seems forced. They don't seem compatible. They may have had a huge bond back in the day, but it's ok to not be close anymore. People lose compatibility and it's ok to let them go and wish the best for them. You don't have to be friends with someone JUST because you have history.
I totally agree. I can tell they used to love each other. But I don't see it in this video. Im glad they got some closure but its not really giving me....this is a healing moment. Tbh
My guess- since Nats is so defensive- is that he insisted that Patrick being the mediator was ‘biased’ in Demi’s favor, so insisted on being on the mic too. But Patrick _was_ being professional & unbiased & almost robotic, Nats was being a sloppy mess.
Gigi’s husband is the most annoying person EVER. I hate when significant others control their partners friendships because they are together. PEOPLE CAN HAVE RELATIONSHIPS OUTSIDE YOUR RELATIONSHIP.
@@usagiprincess4387 I don’t know how you can hear those voices and think, “Those are women and that’s a man” lol and how do I look at them? Through all the synthetic hormones and plastic surgery… synthetic and plastic… fancy words for fake.
I think Nats is the type of person who CLINGS ONTO their partner for dear life. I have a feeling that she would accompany Gigi to the toilet if she could. Serious co dependency vibes. Everything about this person seems unhealthy and like a GIANT RED FLAG 🚩
'EvEn if shE cAnt haVe me I *KNoW* Demi is iN my liFe fOrEver' AKA I'm in such high demand, cause Im so effing special, I *know* whenever I snap my fingers Demi will drop everything to be with me. Yus GG, friendship based your terms, only when its convienient for you, is 'phsycho, narcissistic and egotistical'. Atleast shes self-aware.
All though demis feelings are valid. she was gaslighting the situation and projecting her insecurities she was emotional the entire time there was no logic to why she decided to not speak to Gigi anymore. She was jealous of Gigi and intimidated by her already had gone through transition and felt as if she wasn’t gonan amount to gigi or Gigi wasn’t gonna support her or just tell her what to do. She could’ve told Gigi everything but felt as if she couldn’t for no reason.
@@coolbean1074 thank you for stating ur opinion cordially. but you listed every reason why demi didn’t feel comfortable opening up to gigi. see i don’t know these women personally so i can’t really say if either of them are trifling as we are just some subscribers, but it seemed to me demi had a loss for words when gigi and nats were constantly beating into her head that they were there for her & her transition when she clearly felt the opposite. I know it seems like i’m picking sides, i love them both but i do feel demi got the short end of the stick
@@shackforprez In the video they were pressing that they were supporting her but it seems to me like Demi was jealous of gigi, potientally felt like gigi was leading her own life aka getting married and done with the partying maybe Demi didn’t like that and felt like her BFF was leaving her behind. Which maybe gigi could’ve handled better but. That’s just what I see .
I kinda got annoyed when Nats got on the mic.. I get it, he wants to defend his wife.. but it seemed in that particular moment (to me) that Demi was getting ganged up on.. Gigi had the situation handled until then, she’s a big girl.. she doesn’t need help. Much love 💖🖤
Dang haven't seen or watched Gigi in YEARS! and im an OG of her's. Stopped watching around the time Nat came along, and watching this made me remember why i stopped watching Gigi, Still cannot stand Nat.
Yeah I noticed that too. Lol I don't that with my siblings. We cut each other off real quick and end an argument if we know it'll only get us more heated to talk about it.
This whole thing was stressful. There is still a lot these 2 want to argue about. It isn't meant to be. They are arguing about little details that don't matter if they really want to forgive and put it in the past.
Of course it’s a 6-7 year feud . The Love is there but when you’re hurt you’re hurt it takes time . But it reflects highly on both that they want to talk it out and take things slow and it will be a while but hopefully it will get better . They are just both in pain but in love
A year later and it still irks the life out of me that natts jumped in when Demi was saying how she FELT! Never said Gigi did this or that. Said she felt Gigi wasn’t there for her in the way she needed. And that’s both of them! Gigi made Demi feel like she couldn’t confide bc Gigi would be intimidated or pissed. And Demi lacked communicating this with a close friend. Natts didn’t need to jump in and definitely didn’t need to act the way they did. Let someone express their feelings and stop saying “that’s so horrible” and “that’s not how I remember it” YOU CANT REMEMBER FEELINGS ONLY A SITUATION! And Demi was expressing FEELINGS.
The issue isnt her speaking up to validate gigi’s claims that she supported her, the issue is demi was about to highlight what she needed and gifi could have used that in the future to make sure when she is deciding to “support/commit 100%,” it isnt in vain. Aka if she needed more time together and she didn’t know that and would have done that, now she knows for the future. I am sure they talked more about that stuff outside the video.
So basically Demi and Gigi were very close in the beginning of their transitions and then later they felt like their friendship was turning chaotic and started unintentionally interfering with Gigi’s relationships and kicked Demi out without a proper explanation and over time they both missed out on milestones in each other’s lives.
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Gigi deff gives mean girl vibes. That she has be the prettiest, the best,, the sexiest, the charming one in the group. I can totally see why Demi felt intimidating to be around Gigi during her transition.
I didn’t mind Nats being there but damn he needs to calm down, let the women rekindle. Besides that, good job ladies, this came off very mature and I’m happy to see where this friendship goes! Wish you all the best.
@@TightTifannyPussPuss Major male karen man splaining energy on his part. But if you watch the last 20 minutes, it got more heartfelt and even he broke down. I’m just happy to see these grown folks handling this publicly and respectfully. I remember Gigi and Demi running around Hollywood years ago and poof…it ended. These issues run deeper than we will ever understand because we are outsides observing into a private relationship. This LA lifestyle can really take a toll on personal growth, let alone physically and mentally transitioning. The fact that they addressed this publicly shows that they care about the fans, and it also shows that they are growing up. What more could we ask for from our beloved creators? On a side note, we all love nats but he should’ve left it between the women. I know he has personal ties into this situation…but the fans want to hear these two hash it out.
Nats crying, interrupting, and snapping was too much. It seems like it shut down Demi and stopped her from expressing herself as much. Nats should have his own conversation with Demi, if that’s what he needs. It must have been so hard for Demi to miss out on the whole wedding process and especially on the day. Demi was just erased and it hurts to feel forgotten.
6:40 when they met 8:37 they talk about coming out as trans and coming to terms and Gigi talks about getting her boobs done and asks what Demi was at one moment and Gigi offered to pay for her boobs . Demi was apparently 17/18 10:45 Gigi correcting Demi 14:10 they names each other 15:40 they talk about how being there or not being there for their transitions 17:00 Nat interrupting (annoying ) 20:57 nat still going off and interrupting but Demi is basically saying that Gigi wasn’t there for the whole process of her transitioning 22:34 Demi said Gigi was there 50 percent 23:23 Gigi explains the friendship separation and her reasons 26:40 Demi talks about the red carpet situation 30:23 Demi take about when her dad past and Gigi was there (Gigi cries) 31:00 Gigi is sad about Demi not being at the wedding 34:30 apology 40:41 Gigi talks about Demi being in the book nat Gigi Demi start arguing 44:50 Gigi gets loud and wants to move on from convo
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I agree but I also think Demi’s humour is the same way, just in this situation she seems hurt still so she isn’t her usual super funny happy self like she is in normal videos, and may be taking Gigi’s jokes the wrong way because of how she still feels but idk lol
if you watch demi's videos, you can tell her and gigi have the same humor!!! its really just her putting her foot down and putting her guards up for this
I've watched a ton of Gigi's vlogs and I don't remember ever seeing this demi chick. You shouldn't erase people. They need to go their separate ways now.
I really feel for Demi, she seems so hurt by Gigi. I had a similar situation with a friend one time and when we gave it another shot at our friendship it was the same thing all over again. It sucks so bad. I really wouldn’t recommend going back to that. But I hope it works out for them.
Same dude me and my best friend are both 25 now and have been best friends since we were 12 years old, until we hit about 20 and got boyfriends and fell in love and truly just drifted apart and we just dont get along that well anymore…
The past 5 years we have been on and off speaking terms and i desperately try grasping at straws to keep the fire alive but im almost out of firewood so to speak. Its really sad
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Honestly i think Nats is the problem.... That he is the reason for the falling out... He was hustle the whole time and was just stirring it up again . He needs to step back and stop for Gigi's sake ....
I’m wondering about this too because it seems the falling out was because Gigi got into that relationship. I’m starting to wonder if Nats is someone who wants Gigi to himself. It seems that way based on his actions in this video and it bothers me. He wouldn’t really let Gigi talk
@@champagnesupernova777 totally agree when it came to Demi talking about the glossary of the book too. Trying to yet again defend Gigi and knock down Demi's feelings. Nats seems like he can be very controlling and Gigi probably views it as him being "protective." Then when Demi says she was hurt by not being put in the glossary, Nats interjects, "Yeah! But I was hurt too, and Gigi..." Proof that right there his feelings came before his wife's. The friendship was Demi and Gigi. Nats was just the husband chilling with them because that's his wife's friend and needs to let his wife fight her own battles and know when to step in.
Gigi is a completely different person than who she was before she met him , that’s not in a mean way at all, but Gigi literally used to be so different , I understand people change but idk I can’t put my finger on it, she’s just so different to who she was pre nats and it’s quite upsetting because she literally used to be the IT girl in Hollywood, and then nats happened, I much preferred Gigi compared to Nikita anyways js.
Nats aggressive interruptions is escalating to an argument is SO NOT HELPFUL OR HEALTHY. Let Demi talk from her experience. Nats needs to learn how to discuss from a therapist. This is disrespectful. I understand that it comes from an emotional place, but he needs to learn how to LISTEN.
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Gigi Cutting Demi out of the book and not inviting her to the wedding I don’t think I’d be able to be friends with her again. Its so hurtful. Gigi telling her how much she loves her really? Come on! you cut her off from your life so easily. Actions speak louder than words. It looks like Gigi’s PR team didn’t want Demi around and Gigi was quick to comply with their request.
@@malina5898 I totally agree because I've been the same way when someone ices me out or vice versa. But when it's all said and done the major question we have to ask ourselves when planning a wedding is would you want/love to see that person in those forever memorable photos and share your special day with you and your loved ones? There may have been outsiders opinions that were taken into account when there's only two opinions that matter, the two getting hitched.
I feel like yall were being too subtle about stuff. Why did Gigi need to distance themselves from La Demi to make Gigi & Nat's relationship work? Was it just Nat needing more attention or was it Gigi & Demi "partying"? Yall should have really went in.
Gigi threw so much shade during the "makeup". She basically called Demi Fat, then she said Demi used to be a bootleg version of herself and now she's amazing. Smh... Gigi's reason for not including Demi in her book was trash. I don't feel like Gigi is really Demi's friend. Gigi pushed Demi out of their 3 way relationship so she could be the only one in Nats life and live happily ever, wealthy after.
Seems strange that Gigi insists that Demi never met her as her deadname but then says "we named each other!" and that she got the name Giselle from Demi.
Takeaways it felt like the audience didn’t get closure. Having nats their made it more complicated it should of just been them too. The fact that Demi wasn’t their for the wedding broke me.
@@transgoddess31 I feel personally like Nats might have been the reason for the fallout based on how everyone acted and Gigi saying “I was trying to focus on my relationship”
This made me cry.. friendship breakups are the hardest. Demi seems like she loved and valued Gigi way more that Gigi did to her. Gigi seems nonchalant and smiling most of the time, doesn’t look like she regretted it, kinda makes me feel like she wants to please Nats.
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Nat should of let the dolls hash it out. Grown woman business… This honestly is something beautiful. Especially in the trans community. I wish I can sit down with my sister. We had a magical bond during the earlier years in our transition & we slowly started to separate. Unfortunately at the time we’re a little blinded by what the bigger picture and unfortunately sisters usually split because of the mis communications.
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The way you remember details so vividly Demi…. I can tell you’re not lying. You may get the random unimportant pieces mixed up, but you’re telling the story as you believed it. I’m not just saying that blow smoke to your ass, I know nothing of the situation and went in neutral.
Honestly Patrick should turn this into a series with other you tubers where like back in the day they were bestie and now they fell out and haven’t spoke in years and Patrick gets them to sit down like this and talk it out. Being real and honest nothing filtered say it like you mean it and maybe people can fix it. Like Jeffree and Laura Lee Patrick and Manny Mua….
Nats is giving full manipulation from this honestly. It’s so dramatic for no reason, it wasn’t fair for him to constantly comment when this conversation was meant for Demi and Gigi to heal. It didn’t seem fair, like Patrick could of got involved but didn’t as it wasn’t his place.
whew...wish that the only other person in the room was Patrick. The addition of a spouse felt like it interrupted the healing and unfortunately felt like a pile on which I'm sure was not the intention. Wishing them both healing and love. Never easy to lose a pivotal relationship in your life.
Definitely can tell GiGi is the person who gets in a relationship and says screws her friends. & now loud mouth Nat interjecting her comments.. they will never be friends again, & that's likely the best for Demi..
Nats was not needed. You don't need to jump in when it's a convo between Gigi and Demi.. Honestly, it seems like Gigi's need to please Nats is the reason why their friendship disintegrated. Setting boundaries would have saved them a lot of time.
Gigi was the pretty popular it girl coming up and la Demi wasn’t at that time so she dropped her plain and simple and now she sees that she was legit a REAL friend who now a days it’s hard to come by
She did, that her relationship with Demi became “toxic” in her opinion and that Gigi was/is a crazy party girl and Demi brought that out in her and she had to step back because it was causing issues with Nats
Nats was an “extra on set” like his comments were not needed and very inappropriate to the conversation. He left a very bad taste in my mouth and almost made me not want to be here for Gigi because at some points she was the puppet and he was the puppet master.
@@lovelanirose same... I don't understand why he was talking and the more I was watching it... The more I realized they probably stopped talking to each other because of Nats
They should’ve had this discussion without Nats. It’s frustrating to watch him and Gigi talk over Demi when she’s entitled to feel the way she did about the situation (regardless if they disagree). Seems like in some parts they didn’t let her clarify or go in depth with her responses and right away get defensive. There can’t be healing if you don’t hear her out smh.
Now that I watched it, I think they didn’t understand what you said. You said you FELT like you could not really come to Gigi bc of your own fears and not wanting her to feel a certain way. They took it as you just flat out saying she was not there, you didn’t say that. So that’s why Nats chiming in was throwing things off he clearly heard what you said wrong.
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Another thing I noticed was that nats was there to be on ggs side and constantly jumped in and vouched for her. Nobody was there to stick up for demi. Yeah Patrick was there, but he was mediating and on no ones side. I feel like it should have just stayed between gg and la Demi and nats should have stayed between gg and la Demi.
Lademi, Gigi is not your friend how you thought or want her to be. Cut your loss, heal, grow, hair flip & keep it moving. You've come such a long way & I dont think you would have become the strong Latina you are today if you were still friends with Gigi. Stay strong gorgeous
In the same context, what is love? Do you love your idea of someone or who they are? Gigi wasnt an entity never going to change lol she got other priorities than a guy every night lol gigi is like “you werent like you were at 22” and gigi is like “i am x years older and thinking kf starting a family lol”
Demi is such a Scorpio and I love it. That is me too, love communication, vibes and the little things matter. Everything is so deep and I wish there were more people like that.
@@daniellabrb8902 youre right and im sorry i used the incorrect pronouns. Sometimes youre just relying on how you addressed the person. But yes i recognize nats as a man.
@@BlueAquatics if he is a he, this was a woman issue. It had nothing really to do with him. I get they are married but Gigi is grown and clearly can handle her own. All the crying was alot, especially when the real friendship was between Gigi and LaDemi Nats: men do not involve themselves in women's business, especially if its just a hashing out
@@transgoddess31 what a sexist thing to say 😂😂😂 they all had forms of relationships and explained why things changed and why they separated humans are allowed to express their feelings why do you have to specifically form it to gender it's the problem with society today
I feel very sad for demi and people who have to go through similar issues. Such a huge physical transformation, it feels like she's still having major internal identity crisis.
Ok I admit at the beginning I was kinda pissed at Gigi‘s attitude but I’m glad, surprised and happy how they resolved things openly. I wish them both the best, and I’m happy for them being friends again.
Gigi didn’t care enough about your friendship .. she cared about herself and her new relationship. Gigi is the typical friend who ditches her friend once they get in a new relationship. Also I think Gigi didn’t want LaDemi to upstage her.
tbh I think he was just drunk hence the crying, the way he was speaking to demi was vile and nobody who cares for someone that deeply will speak to them that way
Nats met LaDemi before Gigi. So there's history their they were all 3 close so of course his emotions are also valid. In the end LaDemi also thanked him for speaking his opinions. I did cringe when he would interrupt but I see why he did it.
@@KathyXo89 i felt that too! Like I’m confused and why was he so aggressive at Demi like she was being nice and speaking her feelings. I felt he misinterpreted her a lot.
This is such a raw side of La Demi that I feel like I don’t really get to see but I definitely like how it shows more of how her heart . Down to earth and loving
We need to normalize this ‼️💯 I wish I could sit down with people that I’ve lost…especially my old best friend since childhood. Thank you ladies for being raw, transparent, and relatable ❤️ I cried too 😭😭
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Whew when Nat started talking my ass zoned out and I can tell Patrick was annoyed. I also feel like they weren’t listening to understand what Demi was feeling and saying.
Yah its not complicated. Gigi was just busy living the dream, gettimg everything she could ever want, with the uber rich, jet-set Getty family. LaDemi who???
I might be in the minority here but I feel like it’s basically Nats & Gigi Vs La Demi. Any two friends that left the others name out of a book is hurtful and Nats seems to be diverting and being like “well yeah but you hurt us too!” And I feel La Demi is apologizing when Gigi (IMO) is giving a half ass apology.
WOW! this is going to change the TH-cam community and other channel relationships. THANK U BOTH FOR DOING THIS MATURITY ITS EVERYTHING ITS NEVER TO LATE TO SAY SORRY
Honestly with all due respect Nats should’ve stayed out of this. Both Gigi’s and Demi’s feelings are valid and Nats should’ve kept his mouth shut. Let Demi speak about her feelings. Also, me personally, I would never let a relationship get in between me and my close friends. Ever. Gigi really messed up here. Especially with having that close of a friendship and you don’t even invite her to your wedding…just wow. I love both of these women but Gigi really bothered me in this video. Ngl
There seems to be still be underlying tension still. There’s never an expiry on apologising, but that doesn’t mean you have to rekindle friendships, sometimes it’s okay to appreciate what a friendship once was and move on civilly
People remember things differently. It helps nothing to go over on how each one remembers things. Just talk about what issues you have, grudges, apologize and move on. You won’t find common ground in trying to match how things happened.
Who knew Patrick could be such a compassionate mediator?! I Live! And honestly, this conversation has given me so much insight for my relationships with other trans women I'm friends with, and I hate to admit it but I am the Gigi in this situation. And I empathize so much with Demi. We all live and hopefully grow and learn.
I’m not trans but I feel the same way with some of my relationships where I know I wasn’t there for them when I should be. Yeah I feel for Demi too. Good luck to you, and like you said hopefully we can grow and learn from our mistakes ❤️
GiGi wanted to be the ONLY trans woman in LA… realistically is NOT POSSIBLE.. Demi was so important to her image and had such a strong vision for her that GiGi knew Demi would have a stronger vision for HERSELF!! That’s why she kept her on the back burner. I’m so happy Demi found herself w out GiGi. She’s a hater. (Was a hater)
Don't agree at all, cuz if Demi was transitioning already then how could Gigi have been against it? If she wanted to cut Demi off for being trans it would've happened when Demi started hormone therapy not years later when they're literally living together. Demi definitely FELT like that's how Gigi felt tho, and that's very sad.
Of course I would never know what actually happened between them.. I would hate pinning them against one another. Both are super courageous and are strong role models for the trans community and women period! I’m thinking it’s more maybe bc of Nat…? The way he was extremely defensive is alarming. Also, GiGi made a comment about her marriage thriving from their relationship (Demi and GiGi) taking a break. Maybe Nat was insecure and jealous of their friendship…? I could see him being jealous, especially back then before he found who he was as a person. Idk. I’m just glad they talked it out. Having to women talk things out always makes me happy.
NATS WAS ANNOYING ASF TALKING LIKE A FREAKING MAGPIE WHAT THE FUCK! ...... I LOVE LA DEMI BUT SHE WAS INTENSE ALSO "LA DEMI" BECAME " LA POSSESSIVE " ....GURLLLLLLLLLL... AND GIGI ALSO SORT OF SELFISH HAHAHA TYPICAL TAURUS " MY WAY OR MY WAY" HAHAHAH
I’m so annoyed at the tone Nat had and the way he kept talking even though they were not listening because they were talking to each other. It’s really frustrating when in reality the issue is between them two. I don’t understand how Gigi and Nat got so defensive over Demi sharing how she felt like damn just listen for a damn second…. Im sorry but this doesn’t seem like closure to me, there’s way more “you made me feel” conversations that need to be talked about but Gigi seems to loud and I don’t mean in volume I mean like she’s so quick to get defensive and pinch at words rather than the whole sentence.
NATS WAS ANNOYING ASF TALKING LIKE A FREAKING MAGPIE WHAT THE FUCK! ...... I LOVE LA DEMI BUT SHE WAS INTENSE ALSO "LA DEMI" BECAME " LA POSSESSIVE " ....GURLLLLLLLLLL... AND GIGI ALSO SORT OF SELFISH HAHAHA TYPICAL TAURUS " MY WAY OR MY WAY" HAHAHAH
Gigi’s explanation for cutting La Demi out of the book was crap. If someone is that big of a part in your life, you keep them in it no matter what the relationship is now.
I get EXACTLY what La Demi is saying. When your friend is in a position/doing something/involved with something etc. whatever the case may be and you find yourself potentially in that same space, the *last* thing you want to do is make it seem like you're trying to step on their toes or steal their thunder. It is so incredibly sweet of La Demi to consider Gigi's feelings when it came to her own transition and how it could potentially make Gigi feel. Being aware (or even hyper aware) of how you could potentially make others feels is both a blessing and a curse, and it is so rare to come across others who take people into consideration to the extent that you did, La Demi . Wishing you nothing but the best, I hope you are happy and living your best life xo
I genuinely think that people were in Demi’s ear making her not want to be more open with Gigi. Demi just respected Gigi so much that she didn’t want to step on her toes wanting to be another pretty trans woman.
Thank you Patrick for mediating this conversation with her and I. It's been LONG overdue and I personally have so many regrets and so many things I wish just happened different. But they didn't and that's just life. It was time to be held accountable and totally honest and it feels really good. I'm glad we both got to hear each others sides and got the closure we needed. It feels like there was a weight lifted off of our backs. From watching the video you can tell how much love there is between you and I Dem. And how much Nats loves you too.. Which is why I'm happy he was there and got his closure for this also. If we didn't care, there wouldn't be this much emotion and acknowledgement, I'm usually really hard to pull any emotion from and you know that's just how I am, but doing this has helped me grow. I love you Demi, and thank you for that
Look, there has been countless nights through the years that I went over so many scenarios trying to go over where it got so bad and where it got so ugly. Then there were so many nights I drafted paragraph long texts trying to put my emotions into words and wondering if "sorry" even transcended into the words I was unfolding to send you, Gigi. it was hard not having you around for many milestones, but it made me stronger. it helped me grow and it helped me mature into La Demi, and a lot of watching you grow up... inspired me to kill it in my career.. back in 2013, you taught me a lot behind the scenes. We were sisters, soulmates, and best friends... so when it all went cold and there was no closure, it was because I feel like we never knew how to tell each other "goodbye". it was something we never wanted to have to say so we held onto silence and the days turned into weeks, months, and now years. Gigi.... thank you for being real. for once in my heart sitting across from you looking into your eyes all these years later, "I apologize" and "im sorry" is all I ever wanted to hear, as im sure it was the same for you. Nats, your tears and shaky voice filled my heart that evening we filmed this because it showed me how much you cared and I remember on the way back home we shared an uber home and I grabbed your hand and squeezed it a few times trying to reassure you that the love is still there. I know how deeply you were involved through our arguments back then, knowing how close Gigi and I were and trying to learn how to navigate a love relationship beyond Gigi and I exuding so much life and spotlight non stop..... this filming helped me heal, turn the page, close the book, it helped me close that chapter of hurt and some of the many things I always wanted to say all this time. I was a kid and through the years I felt in debt, that I needed something in return for everything I ever gave you. truth is I was in debt to myself for not understanding this life is a 2 way street and if I don't ever communicate the deepest feelings, the other side will never ever know.
Gigi, I love you too. thank you for helping me grow... a lot of the unapologetic "demi" was inspired by you as a young kid in Hollywood.
Nats should not have interrupted.
This made me cry ❤️
Yo girl needs to back off on la demi
@@ezrajeremiah2436 lets not misgender
Demi is a grown woman, she is entitled to her opinions, feelings and thoughts. Nats had no business trying to correct her when she was expressing how she felt and what she was going through at all.
YAH!!!
No room considerin Gigi said their friendship was overpowering her lyfe. Like how f big of a hater do u have 2 b 2 say dat 2 someone. 🤷🏾♀️ it b da closest ones 2 u. Nat should’ve kept it real n told her ass she was wrong 👏🏾
Demi is annoying IMO
Facts!
She’s being kinda rude imo but idk she seemed snippy
Patrick should have told Nat to be quiet as the mediator.
literally didn’t mediate anything haha
Def. Nat was obviously drunk af
Agree. It’s only supposed to be between Gigi and Demi. Nobody was taking up on Demi’s behalf.
I agree ! Nat was drunk af popping off at the lip & who was there for Demi besides us in the comments !?
I think we found out that Nats is a huge big emotional baby boy and as much as he looks like he’s an asshole or just you don’t like the “too cool” attitude. I think now we know he feels hard. He just wants the best for both of them, as Gigi said and that’s all that matters. Haters gone hate
This needs to be redone WITHOUT NATS! He seemed like he tried to speak for Gigi one too many times
💯
not even a He, it’s She,
Yeah, she’s a woman. She.
@@Everettescottortiz Nats transitioned. Nats is a man.
@@TatyTheHiddenAngel Sorry, that’s not how it works and you know it. Nats is a woman and “Gigi” and “Demi” are men and you know that as well.
I’m sorry but Nat should’ve just sat there and been SILENT. Him interjecting wasn’t helping at all. But otherwise I’m glad they settled everything.
No need to be sorry. You are CORRECT
Nats being there was really giving real housewives husband. He shouldn’t have been provided the opportunity to say anything at all. The reconciling needed to happen between Gigi and Demi only.
Nat interrupting makes me so anxious because the the girls seems to have their own pace for the convo and once nat jumps in all hell breaks loose.
NATS WAS ANNOYING ASF TALKING LIKE A FREAKING MAGPIE WHAT THE FUCK! ...... I LOVE LA DEMI BUT SHE WAS INTENSE ALSO "LA DEMI" BECAME " LA POSSESSIVE " ....GURLLLLLLLLLL... AND GIGI ALSO SORT OF SELFISH HAHAHA TYPICAL TAURUS " MY WAY OR MY WAY" HAHAHAH
I totally understand how Demi feels. Someone can physically be with you through something but you can still feel like you're stepping on egg shells around them and have your guard up.
yes!! and its usually not due to your own feelings but to some kind of energy the other person is giving off!
I don't know...this friendship seems forced. They don't seem compatible. They may have had a huge bond back in the day, but it's ok to not be close anymore. People lose compatibility and it's ok to let them go and wish the best for them. You don't have to be friends with someone JUST because you have history.
I totally agree. I can tell they used to love each other. But I don't see it in this video. Im glad they got some closure but its not really giving me....this is a healing moment. Tbh
I totally agree, you can tell they are not compatible at all
It will never be the same. These two will always have hard feelings.
Yes. I agree 100%
I totally agree with this. "I want you to eat, just not at my table"
My guess- since Nats is so defensive- is that he insisted that Patrick being the mediator was ‘biased’ in Demi’s favor, so insisted on being on the mic too. But Patrick _was_ being professional & unbiased & almost robotic, Nats was being a sloppy mess.
Nats jumping in stressed me out 😅
He’s so annoying crunch Getty bieber wanna be! He needs to take a shower
he needed to shut the fuck up, quite literally. a man in women's business for what reason?!
Honestly lol. It was supposed to be how they each remembered it. Demi wasn’t trying to drag Gigi through the mud. Both of their feelings are valid.
Yea exactly
He needs to bud out honestly it’s between her and Gigi
Gigi’s husband is the most annoying person EVER. I hate when significant others control their partners friendships because they are together. PEOPLE CAN HAVE RELATIONSHIPS OUTSIDE YOUR RELATIONSHIP.
Gigi has a wife. That’s not a husband.
@@Everettescottortiz he’s transitioning, he’s now her husband
@@usagiprincess4387 There’s no such thing as “transitioning”. Just like Gigi and Demi are actually men, Nats will always be a woman. That’s how it is.
@@Everettescottortiz I don’t know how you can look at Gigi and Demi and put them in the same category as Arnold Schwarzenegger lol
@@usagiprincess4387 I don’t know how you can hear those voices and think, “Those are women and that’s a man” lol and how do I look at them? Through all the synthetic hormones and plastic surgery… synthetic and plastic… fancy words for fake.
Is Gigi really that girl who takes her annoying man everywhere with her and tries to fight with her friends? 💀
Honestly I've lost some respect after this.
@@anh7807 Me too. She came off fake. Imagine making your friend wait in the back while you walk the red carpet..
I think Nats is the type of person who CLINGS ONTO their partner for dear life. I have a feeling that she would accompany Gigi to the toilet if she could. Serious co dependency vibes. Everything about this person seems unhealthy and like a GIANT RED FLAG 🚩
'YouRe iN thE BooK! YoUre JuSt nOt iN tHe gLoSSAry!
AKA we exploited your stories and identity without giving you any credit.
'EvEn if shE cAnt haVe me I *KNoW* Demi is iN my liFe fOrEver'
AKA I'm in such high demand, cause Im so effing special, I *know* whenever I snap my fingers Demi will drop everything to be with me.
Yus GG, friendship based your terms, only when its convienient for you, is 'phsycho, narcissistic and egotistical'. Atleast shes self-aware.
50 minutes of gigi and nats disregarding demi’s feelings 😭😭
Yuppp
All though demis feelings are valid. she was gaslighting the situation and projecting her insecurities she was emotional the entire time there was no logic to why she decided to not speak to Gigi anymore. She was jealous of Gigi and intimidated by her already had gone through transition and felt as if she wasn’t gonan amount to gigi or Gigi wasn’t gonna support her or just tell her what to do. She could’ve told Gigi everything but felt as if she couldn’t for no reason.
@@coolbean1074 thank you for stating ur opinion cordially. but you listed every reason why demi didn’t feel comfortable opening up to gigi. see i don’t know these women personally so i can’t really say if either of them are trifling as we are just some subscribers, but it seemed to me demi had a loss for words when gigi and nats were constantly beating into her head that they were there for her & her transition when she clearly felt the opposite. I know it seems like i’m picking sides, i love them both but i do feel demi got the short end of the stick
@@shackforprez In the video they were pressing that they were supporting her but it seems to me like Demi was jealous of gigi, potientally felt like gigi was leading her own life aka getting married and done with the partying maybe Demi didn’t like that and felt like her BFF was leaving her behind. Which maybe gigi could’ve handled better but. That’s just what I see .
I kinda got annoyed when Nats got on the mic.. I get it, he wants to defend his wife.. but it seemed in that particular moment (to me) that Demi was getting ganged up on.. Gigi had the situation handled until then, she’s a big girl.. she doesn’t need help. Much love 💖🖤
He didn’t need to jump in at all it was a very mature conversation until nats would jump in
@@rilesfomiles8662 exactly, I don’t think a man should get involved in a disagreement/discussion between two women.. stay out of it.
Dang haven't seen or watched Gigi in YEARS! and im an OG of her's. Stopped watching around the time Nat came along, and watching this made me remember why i stopped watching Gigi, Still cannot stand Nat.
Exactly. Same here. Can't stand Nats at all.
Just thinking the same
Same here……
Same
Same! She’s so annoying & entitled
I think they are still angry. Their attitudes and snippy responses don’t seem relaxed.
Yeah I noticed that too. Lol I don't that with my siblings. We cut each other off real quick and end an argument if we know it'll only get us more heated to talk about it.
Yeah it definitely seems like Demi is still hurt
Definitely a lot of Demi’s responses were “okay” and you could tell she didn’t agree with a lot of what Gigi was saying.
This whole thing was stressful. There is still a lot these 2 want to argue about. It isn't meant to be. They are arguing about little details that don't matter if they really want to forgive and put it in the past.
Of course it’s a 6-7 year feud . The
Love is there but when you’re hurt you’re hurt it takes time . But it reflects highly on both that they want to talk it out and take things slow and it will be a while but hopefully it will get better . They are just both in pain but in love
A year later and it still irks the life out of me that natts jumped in when Demi was saying how she FELT! Never said Gigi did this or that. Said she felt Gigi wasn’t there for her in the way she needed. And that’s both of them! Gigi made Demi feel like she couldn’t confide bc Gigi would be intimidated or pissed. And Demi lacked communicating this with a close friend. Natts didn’t need to jump in and definitely didn’t need to act the way they did. Let someone express their feelings and stop saying “that’s so horrible” and “that’s not how I remember it” YOU CANT REMEMBER FEELINGS ONLY A SITUATION! And Demi was expressing FEELINGS.
The issue isnt her speaking up to validate gigi’s claims that she supported her, the issue is demi was about to highlight what she needed and gifi could have used that in the future to make sure when she is deciding to “support/commit 100%,” it isnt in vain. Aka if she needed more time together and she didn’t know that and would have done that, now she knows for the future. I am sure they talked more about that stuff outside the video.
He* but in this video she, right? Not sure about how to do that if someone doesnt state outright - do i call eliot paige in trailer park boys “he?”
Why is Nats even there? Dude should have stayed home. Patrick should have cut him off. Like wtf?
I was thinking the same thing
@@PuertoRicanqueen90 right
patrick understood that his moderator position meant he needed to remain neutral while nat didn’t
Same
Fr I was wondering when he’s going to shut his mouth. I don’t even know why they had a mic in the first place
So basically Demi and Gigi were very close in the beginning of their transitions and then later they felt like their friendship was turning chaotic and started unintentionally interfering with Gigi’s relationships and kicked Demi out without a proper explanation and over time they both missed out on milestones in each other’s lives.
Exactly!!!
NATS WAS ANNOYING ASF TALKING LIKE A FREAKING MAGPIE WHAT THE FUCK! ...... I LOVE LA DEMI BUT SHE WAS INTENSE ALSO "LA DEMI" BECAME " LA POSSESSIVE " ....GURLLLLLLLLLL... AND GIGI ALSO SORT OF SELFISH HAHAHA TYPICAL TAURUS " MY WAY OR MY WAY" HAHAHAH
Thank you !!
@@ashleyjasmine7534 Your welcome honey XD
Gigi deff gives mean girl vibes. That she has be the prettiest, the best,, the sexiest, the charming one in the group. I can totally see why Demi felt intimidating to be around Gigi during her transition.
But that was and still is her journey. She's living the dream.
I didn’t mind Nats being there but damn he needs to calm down, let the women rekindle. Besides that, good job ladies, this came off very mature and I’m happy to see where this friendship goes! Wish you all the best.
Right like that was NOT his place
She’s an ex white women so he wants to abuse his white privilege
@@TightTifannyPussPuss that’s a bit much ye ol’ feller, let’s tone it down
@@TightTifannyPussPuss Major male karen man splaining energy on his part. But if you watch the last 20 minutes, it got more heartfelt and even he broke down. I’m just happy to see these grown folks handling this publicly and respectfully. I remember Gigi and Demi running around Hollywood years ago and poof…it ended. These issues run deeper than we will ever understand because we are outsides observing into a private relationship. This LA lifestyle can really take a toll on personal growth, let alone physically and mentally transitioning. The fact that they addressed this publicly shows that they care about the fans, and it also shows that they are growing up. What more could we ask for from our beloved creators? On a side note, we all love nats but he should’ve left it between the women. I know he has personal ties into this situation…but the fans want to hear these two hash it out.
100% agree
Nats crying, interrupting, and snapping was too much. It seems like it shut down Demi and stopped her from expressing herself as much. Nats should have his own conversation with Demi, if that’s what he needs. It must have been so hard for Demi to miss out on the whole wedding process and especially on the day. Demi was just erased and it hurts to feel forgotten.
I can’t with nats interruptions
Periodt
It felt like they were ganging up on Demi when she was trying to talk about her transition and what was going through her head
💀
Right ?! 🙄
serio
6:40 when they met
8:37 they talk about coming out as trans and coming to terms and Gigi talks about getting her boobs done and asks what Demi was at one moment and Gigi offered to pay for her boobs . Demi was apparently 17/18
10:45 Gigi correcting Demi
14:10 they names each other
15:40 they talk about how being there or not being there for their transitions
17:00 Nat interrupting (annoying )
20:57 nat still going off and interrupting but Demi is basically saying that Gigi wasn’t there for the whole process of her transitioning
22:34 Demi said Gigi was there 50 percent
23:23 Gigi explains the friendship separation and her reasons
26:40 Demi talks about the red carpet situation
30:23 Demi take about when her dad past and Gigi was there (Gigi cries)
31:00 Gigi is sad about Demi not being at the wedding
34:30 apology
40:41 Gigi talks about Demi being in the book nat Gigi Demi start arguing
44:50 Gigi gets loud and wants to move on from convo
They should pin this comment
Or make a chapter part . I love them both so seeing them argue sucked but I understand friendships can be this way
THANK YOU
@Floptina lol dead ass 😭😂
thank you! You’re a 🌟
it's EVIDENT that DEMI is a good person and you can see her heart! Demi truly deserves every ounce of success this world has to offer.
NATS WAS ANNOYING ASF TALKING LIKE A FREAKING MAGPIE WHAT THE FUCK! ...... I LOVE LA DEMI BUT SHE WAS INTENSE ALSO "LA DEMI" BECAME " LA POSSESSIVE " ....GURLLLLLLLLLL... AND GIGI ALSO SORT OF SELFISH HAHAHA TYPICAL TAURUS " MY WAY OR MY WAY" HAHAHAH
magpie…are you Australian?
You didn't go to college with her. Shes a disgusting human being
Patrick really contoured these girls’ noses completely away.
hahahahahhahahha
Gigi has a very tongue and cheek humour and Demi is a very sensitive person and that's where this relationship doesn't work.
I agree but I also think Demi’s humour is the same way, just in this situation she seems hurt still so she isn’t her usual super funny happy self like she is in normal videos, and may be taking Gigi’s jokes the wrong way because of how she still feels but idk lol
if you watch demi's videos, you can tell her and gigi have the same humor!!! its really just her putting her foot down and putting her guards up for this
Demi doesn’t get a lot of Gigis jokes. She’s kinda dumb
@@dylanleep9545 yeah I can see them just not registering
I've watched a ton of Gigi's vlogs and I don't remember ever seeing this demi chick. You shouldn't erase people. They need to go their separate ways now.
I really feel for Demi, she seems so hurt by Gigi. I had a similar situation with a friend one time and when we gave it another shot at our friendship it was the same thing all over again. It sucks so bad. I really wouldn’t recommend going back to that. But I hope it works out for them.
Same dude me and my best friend are both 25 now and have been best friends since we were 12 years old, until we hit about 20 and got boyfriends and fell in love and truly just drifted apart and we just dont get along that well anymore…
The past 5 years we have been on and off speaking terms and i desperately try grasping at straws to keep the fire alive but im almost out of firewood so to speak. Its really sad
NATS WAS ANNOYING ASF TALKING LIKE A FREAKING MAGPIE WHAT THE FUCK! ...... I LOVE LA DEMI BUT SHE WAS INTENSE ALSO "LA DEMI" BECAME " LA POSSESSIVE " ....GURLLLLLLLLLL... AND GIGI ALSO SORT OF SELFISH HAHAHA TYPICAL TAURUS " MY WAY OR MY WAY" HAHAHAH
Honestly i think Nats is the problem.... That he is the reason for the falling out... He was hustle the whole time and was just stirring it up again . He needs to step back and stop for Gigi's sake ....
I’m wondering about this too because it seems the falling out was because Gigi got into that relationship. I’m starting to wonder if Nats is someone who wants Gigi to himself. It seems that way based on his actions in this video and it bothers me. He wouldn’t really let Gigi talk
@@champagnesupernova777 totally agree when it came to Demi talking about the glossary of the book too. Trying to yet again defend Gigi and knock down Demi's feelings. Nats seems like he can be very controlling and Gigi probably views it as him being "protective." Then when Demi says she was hurt by not being put in the glossary, Nats interjects, "Yeah! But I was hurt too, and Gigi..." Proof that right there his feelings came before his wife's. The friendship was Demi and Gigi. Nats was just the husband chilling with them because that's his wife's friend and needs to let his wife fight her own battles and know when to step in.
Nats has a substance abuse problem. For sure
Gigi is a completely different person than who she was before she met him , that’s not in a mean way at all, but Gigi literally used to be so different , I understand people change but idk I can’t put my finger on it, she’s just so different to who she was pre nats and it’s quite upsetting because she literally used to be the IT girl in Hollywood, and then nats happened, I much preferred Gigi compared to Nikita anyways js.
@@leiliki1804 I agree with this 💯…..it’s honestly so sad how some women allow relationships ruined long term friendships.
Nats aggressive interruptions is escalating to an argument is SO NOT HELPFUL OR HEALTHY. Let Demi talk from her experience. Nats needs to learn how to discuss from a therapist. This is disrespectful. I understand that it comes from an emotional place, but he needs to learn how to LISTEN.
NATS WAS ANNOYING ASF TALKING LIKE A FREAKING MAGPIE WHAT THE FUCK! ...... I LOVE LA DEMI BUT SHE WAS INTENSE ALSO "LA DEMI" BECAME " LA POSSESSIVE " ....GURLLLLLLLLLL... AND GIGI ALSO SORT OF SELFISH HAHAHA TYPICAL TAURUS " MY WAY OR MY WAY" HAHAHAH
Gigi Cutting Demi out of the book and not inviting her to the wedding I don’t think I’d be able to be friends with her again. Its so hurtful. Gigi telling her how much she loves her really? Come on! you cut her off from your life so easily. Actions speak louder than words. It looks like Gigi’s PR team didn’t want Demi around and Gigi was quick to comply with their request.
I agree 1000%
It gave...you was a nobody then and expendable
But now you have some fame, we can be friends now. Fake af
i agree omg.
tbh I wouldn’t invite someone to my wedding if i haven’t spoken to them in 3 years
@@malina5898 I totally agree because I've been the same way when someone ices me out or vice versa. But when it's all said and done the major question we have to ask ourselves when planning a wedding is would you want/love to see that person in those forever memorable photos and share your special day with you and your loved ones?
There may have been outsiders opinions that were taken into account when there's only two opinions that matter, the two getting hitched.
I feel like yall were being too subtle about stuff. Why did Gigi need to distance themselves from La Demi to make Gigi & Nat's relationship work? Was it just Nat needing more attention or was it Gigi & Demi "partying"? Yall should have really went in.
Finally someone said it!
Gigi threw so much shade during the "makeup". She basically called Demi Fat, then she said Demi used to be a bootleg version of herself and now she's amazing. Smh... Gigi's reason for not including Demi in her book was trash. I don't feel like Gigi is really Demi's friend. Gigi pushed Demi out of their 3 way relationship so she could be the only one in Nats life and live happily ever, wealthy after.
Exactlyyyyyyy
That part !!!
Righttt a friend would love you for who you are that fake LOS ANGELES MENTALITY got to herrr
Nah, you starting drama. She didn’t mean what she said like that. They have their own humor. I’m more than sure Demi got her.
@@Disnellas I’ll give it the benefit of the doubt who knows
Seems strange that Gigi insists that Demi never met her as her deadname but then says "we named each other!" and that she got the name Giselle from Demi.
Exactly!!
I caught that too
I think that’s because she went by Gigi but didn’t have the full name Giselle, Demi gave her that later but she went by Gigi before then
@@siliconebeautyqueen1680 right Demi fans are grasping at straws
@@Buttrent I think she was trying to understand the situation because if you put 2 n 2 together it gets confusing.
Not gonna lie Nats jumping in all the time made me want to stop watching. Let them speak!
Same.
Can we give 5 stars to Patrick for being just such an angelic mediator? So beautiful and comforting
So much emotion is coming through in Demi, but it’s missing in Gigi. She really ditched her friend and doesn’t give af about it.
Takeaways it felt like the audience didn’t get closure. Having nats their made it more complicated it should of just been them too. The fact that Demi wasn’t their for the wedding broke me.
Absolutely. I’m still confused.
Broke me down !
I felt like they danced around the "fall out"
Facts
@@transgoddess31 I feel personally like Nats might have been the reason for the fallout based on how everyone acted and Gigi saying “I was trying to focus on my relationship”
This made me cry.. friendship breakups are the hardest. Demi seems like she loved and valued Gigi way more that Gigi did to her. Gigi seems nonchalant and smiling most of the time, doesn’t look like she regretted it, kinda makes me feel like she wants to please Nats.
NATS WAS ANNOYING ASF TALKING LIKE A FREAKING MAGPIE WHAT THE FUCK! ...... I LOVE LA DEMI BUT SHE WAS INTENSE ALSO "LA DEMI" BECAME " LA POSSESSIVE " ....GURLLLLLLLLLL... AND GIGI ALSO SORT OF SELFISH HAHAHA TYPICAL TAURUS " MY WAY OR MY WAY" HAHAHAH
Nats need to stay out of women’s business. Your wife can handle herself with her friend. 🤦🏽♀️
Tea
Isn’t Nat a woman?
@@Taikyaa he calls himself her husband and he has stated his pronouns are him/his.
@@Taikyaa think he went through a change. Also got breast removed
Tai you’re ignorant and transphobic got it
I literally never leave comments but NATS NEEDED TO BE PUT IN HER PLACE
his*
@@niklas7495 *his my mistake no disrespect ever .
@@phill6506
Facts!!
Nat should of let the dolls hash it out. Grown woman business… This honestly is something beautiful. Especially in the trans community. I wish I can sit down with my sister. We had a magical bond during the earlier years in our transition & we slowly started to separate. Unfortunately at the time we’re a little blinded by what the bigger picture and unfortunately sisters usually split because of the mis communications.
Gigi looks like she has no regrets yet Demi is still heartbroken:/
ya, nats shouldnt have been in the room for this.
NATS WAS ANNOYING ASF TALKING LIKE A FREAKING MAGPIE WHAT THE FUCK! ...... I LOVE LA DEMI BUT SHE WAS INTENSE ALSO "LA DEMI" BECAME " LA POSSESSIVE " ....GURLLLLLLLLLL... AND GIGI ALSO SORT OF SELFISH HAHAHA TYPICAL TAURUS " MY WAY OR MY WAY" HAHAHAH
The way you remember details so vividly Demi…. I can tell you’re not lying. You may get the random unimportant pieces mixed up, but you’re telling the story as you believed it. I’m not just saying that blow smoke to your ass, I know nothing of the situation and went in neutral.
Yes it’s very obvious she’s telling her truth authenticity
Demi is worried about superficial shit. Her apologies don't matter.
i feel tension here they dont like eachother
Honestly Patrick should turn this into a series with other you tubers where like back in the day they were bestie and now they fell out and haven’t spoke in years and Patrick gets them to sit down like this and talk it out. Being real and honest nothing filtered say it like you mean it and maybe people can fix it. Like Jeffree and Laura Lee Patrick and Manny Mua….
Patrick and Manny sat down not too long ago. Should be on his channel. It was really good.
patricks voice is SO SOOTHING IN THIS MIC
Nats is giving full manipulation from this honestly. It’s so dramatic for no reason, it wasn’t fair for him to constantly comment when this conversation was meant for Demi and Gigi to heal. It didn’t seem fair, like Patrick could of got involved but didn’t as it wasn’t his place.
don’t like nats at all but pls use his proper pronouns as he is a trans man
@@mcw99 my complete apologies. hadn’t even realised at the time x
The “im sorry if you felt like that” ….
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whew...wish that the only other person in the room was Patrick. The addition of a spouse felt like it interrupted the healing and unfortunately felt like a pile on which I'm sure was not the intention. Wishing them both healing and love. Never easy to lose a pivotal relationship in your life.
It seems like nat came there as a witness for testimony and everyone else was like arbitration mode lol
Definitely can tell GiGi is the person who gets in a relationship and says screws her friends. & now loud mouth Nat interjecting her comments.. they will never be friends again, & that's likely the best for Demi..
Nats was not needed. You don't need to jump in when it's a convo between Gigi and Demi.. Honestly, it seems like Gigi's need to please Nats is the reason why their friendship disintegrated. Setting boundaries would have saved them a lot of time.
Gigi was the pretty popular it girl coming up and la Demi wasn’t at that time so she dropped her plain and simple and now she sees that she was legit a REAL friend who now a days it’s hard to come by
Yeah, I hope it’s not too late for both of them, but if their friendship is truly strong- they’ll get thru this fine.
So Gigi ghosted Demi for 6 years and still can’t explain why?
She did, that her relationship with Demi became “toxic” in her opinion and that Gigi was/is a crazy party girl and Demi brought that out in her and she had to step back because it was causing issues with Nats
4 years* there are videos of them together in 2017
@@caseypacitti4333 so instead of Gigi setting boundaries Demi was robbed of her entire social circle and ghosted. Thats insane.
Nats was an “extra on set” like his comments were not needed and very inappropriate to the conversation. He left a very bad taste in my mouth and almost made me not want to be here for Gigi because at some points she was the puppet and he was the puppet master.
I’m sorry but Nat gotta go ! Stop talking please.
Exactly nat was pissing me off
Seriously!! I’m over here like omg would you just shut up!!!
@@lovelanirose same... I don't understand why he was talking and the more I was watching it... The more I realized they probably stopped talking to each other because of Nats
Period! like please shut the hell up and let them talk to each other 🙄
Being there for someone physically is very different from being there emotionally
They should’ve had this discussion without Nats. It’s frustrating to watch him and Gigi talk over Demi when she’s entitled to feel the way she did about the situation (regardless if they disagree). Seems like in some parts they didn’t let her clarify or go in depth with her responses and right away get defensive. There can’t be healing if you don’t hear her out smh.
Nats is so annoying. Gigi doesn’t do anything anymore without nats. They’re so codependent
Now that I watched it, I think they didn’t understand what you said. You said you FELT like you could not really come to Gigi bc of your own fears and not wanting her to feel a certain way. They took it as you just flat out saying she was not there, you didn’t say that. So that’s why Nats chiming in was throwing things off he clearly heard what you said wrong.
That part was very confusing… I had to rewatch the video.
NATS WAS ANNOYING ASF TALKING LIKE A FREAKING MAGPIE WHAT THE FUCK! ...... I LOVE LA DEMI BUT SHE WAS INTENSE ALSO "LA DEMI" BECAME " LA POSSESSIVE " ....GURLLLLLLLLLL... AND GIGI ALSO SORT OF SELFISH HAHAHA TYPICAL TAURUS " MY WAY OR MY WAY" HAHAHAH
That's exactly what I was going to write!
Another thing I noticed was that nats was there to be on ggs side and constantly jumped in and vouched for her. Nobody was there to stick up for demi. Yeah Patrick was there, but he was mediating and on no ones side. I feel like it should have just stayed between gg and la Demi and nats should have stayed between gg and la Demi.
I agree and I hope Gg doesn’t allow Nat to ruin this now because it seems to be that’s what happened.
THIS
Lademi, Gigi is not your friend how you thought or want her to be. Cut your loss, heal, grow, hair flip & keep it moving. You've come such a long way & I dont think you would have become the strong Latina you are today if you were still friends with Gigi. Stay strong gorgeous
Comment aged like milk, looks like they're actually going strong as friends a year later
In the same context, what is love? Do you love your idea of someone or who they are? Gigi wasnt an entity never going to change lol she got other priorities than a guy every night lol gigi is like “you werent like you were at 22” and gigi is like “i am x years older and thinking kf starting a family lol”
Demi is such a Scorpio and I love it. That is me too, love communication, vibes and the little things matter. Everything is so deep and I wish there were more people like that.
Nats needs to calm down, it's not that serious
It shows he cares and he was hurt, so im glad he showed that
@@BlueAquatics its HE. Nats is a trans male.
@@daniellabrb8902 youre right and im sorry i used the incorrect pronouns. Sometimes youre just relying on how you addressed the person. But yes i recognize nats as a man.
@@BlueAquatics if he is a he, this was a woman issue. It had nothing really to do with him. I get they are married but Gigi is grown and clearly can handle her own.
All the crying was alot, especially when the real friendship was between Gigi and LaDemi
Nats: men do not involve themselves in women's business, especially if its just a hashing out
@@transgoddess31 what a sexist thing to say 😂😂😂 they all had forms of relationships and explained why things changed and why they separated humans are allowed to express their feelings why do you have to specifically form it to gender it's the problem with society today
I feel very sad for demi and people who have to go through similar issues. Such a huge physical transformation, it feels like she's still having major internal identity crisis.
Ok I admit at the beginning I was kinda pissed at Gigi‘s attitude but I’m glad, surprised and happy how they resolved things openly. I wish them both the best, and I’m happy for them being friends again.
Gigi didn’t care enough about your friendship .. she cared about herself and her new relationship. Gigi is the typical friend who ditches her friend once they get in a new relationship. Also I think Gigi didn’t want LaDemi to upstage her.
People grow apart and both have phones lol but it is crazy how one week turns into 6 months and then a year and then 5 years.
Even tho I kept telling nat to stfu in my head, I felt bad when he started crying shows how much he did love demi.
@@Thefinalgurl13 omg thank you! Just fixed it ❤️❤️❤️
tbh I think he was just drunk hence the crying, the way he was speaking to demi was vile and nobody who cares for someone that deeply will speak to them that way
No, it was gaslighting and manipulative
@@elleoftwocities true
I’m confused where they a throuple? Why is Nats so involved in this convo
Lmk if you ever figure that out pls
Nats met LaDemi before Gigi. So there's history their they were all 3 close so of course his emotions are also valid. In the end LaDemi also thanked him for speaking his opinions. I did cringe when he would interrupt but I see why he did it.
Same! Because to me it feels this friendship ended because of Nat.
@@KathyXo89 i felt that too! Like I’m confused and why was he so aggressive at Demi like she was being nice and speaking her feelings. I felt he misinterpreted her a lot.
Nats is bringing a wrong energy
This is such a raw side of La Demi that I feel like I don’t really get to see but I definitely like how it shows more of how her heart . Down to earth and loving
We need to normalize this ‼️💯 I wish I could sit down with people that I’ve lost…especially my old best friend since childhood. Thank you ladies for being raw, transparent, and relatable ❤️ I cried too 😭😭
💯💖
NATS WAS ANNOYING ASF TALKING LIKE A FREAKING MAGPIE WHAT THE FUCK! ...... I LOVE LA DEMI BUT SHE WAS INTENSE ALSO "LA DEMI" BECAME " LA POSSESSIVE " ....GURLLLLLLLLLL... AND GIGI ALSO SORT OF SELFISH HAHAHA TYPICAL TAURUS " MY WAY OR MY WAY" HAHAHAH
Same ASF . I miss my old friend Stephanie Hernandez .
Whew when Nat started talking my ass zoned out and I can tell Patrick was annoyed. I also feel like they weren’t listening to understand what Demi was feeling and saying.
I feel like this should happen within the WHOLE beauty community
Demi seems like the only genuine one here. & Patrick please make this a full time TH-cam series!! The format is amazing!!
Oh no, Gigi straight up threw her own friend away bit by bit, mean girl behavior. Demi should stay away from people like this.
Yah its not complicated. Gigi was just busy living the dream, gettimg everything she could ever want, with the uber rich, jet-set Getty family. LaDemi who???
@@ellaova that's a fact. I think demi is jealous and is a cut throat individual.
Patrick reaching for the mic near 21:00 😂 Patrick knew Nats needed to be cut off
I might be in the minority here but I feel like it’s basically Nats & Gigi Vs La Demi. Any two friends that left the others name out of a book is hurtful and Nats seems to be diverting and being like “well yeah but you hurt us too!” And I feel La Demi is apologizing when Gigi (IMO) is giving a half ass apology.
I second this
i don’t think gigi is being insincere.
Agree
Agreed what a slap in the face for removing her from the book. She was a big part of Gigi’s life
If Gigi is giving a half ass apology, then what would be a full ass apology?
WOW! this is going to change the TH-cam community and other channel relationships. THANK U BOTH FOR DOING THIS MATURITY ITS EVERYTHING ITS NEVER TO LATE TO SAY SORRY
Honestly with all due respect Nats should’ve stayed out of this. Both Gigi’s and Demi’s feelings are valid and Nats should’ve kept his mouth shut. Let Demi speak about her feelings. Also, me personally, I would never let a relationship get in between me and my close friends. Ever. Gigi really messed up here. Especially with having that close of a friendship and you don’t even invite her to your wedding…just wow. I love both of these women but Gigi really bothered me in this video. Ngl
THIS!!!! It’s sad how women allow that! I wouldn’t allow that neither, specially long term friendships that were there before the significant other.
@@KathyXo89 the way I see it is partners may come and go but good friends will always be there.
There seems to be still be underlying tension still. There’s never an expiry on apologising, but that doesn’t mean you have to rekindle friendships, sometimes it’s okay to appreciate what a friendship once was and move on civilly
People remember things differently. It helps nothing to go over on how each one remembers things. Just talk about what issues you have, grudges, apologize and move on. You won’t find common ground in trying to match how things happened.
Who knew Patrick could be such a compassionate mediator?! I Live! And honestly, this conversation has given me so much insight for my relationships with other trans women I'm friends with, and I hate to admit it but I am the Gigi in this situation. And I empathize so much with Demi. We all live and hopefully grow and learn.
I’m not trans but I feel the same way with some of my relationships where I know I wasn’t there for them when I should be. Yeah I feel for Demi too. Good luck to you, and like you said hopefully we can grow and learn from our mistakes ❤️
GiGi wanted to be the ONLY trans woman in LA… realistically is NOT POSSIBLE.. Demi was so important to her image and had such a strong vision for her that GiGi knew Demi would have a stronger vision for HERSELF!! That’s why she kept her on the back burner. I’m so happy Demi found herself w out GiGi. She’s a hater. (Was a hater)
this. the transwomen community is so competitive, im sure even more so back then when being outwardly trans wasn't as widely common as now
Don't agree at all, cuz if Demi was transitioning already then how could Gigi have been against it? If she wanted to cut Demi off for being trans it would've happened when Demi started hormone therapy not years later when they're literally living together. Demi definitely FELT like that's how Gigi felt tho, and that's very sad.
Of course I would never know what actually happened between them.. I would hate pinning them against one another. Both are super courageous and are strong role models for the trans community and women period!
I’m thinking it’s more maybe bc of Nat…? The way he was extremely defensive is alarming. Also, GiGi made a comment about her marriage thriving from their relationship (Demi and GiGi) taking a break. Maybe Nat was insecure and jealous of their friendship…? I could see him being jealous, especially back then before he found who he was as a person. Idk. I’m just glad they talked it out. Having to women talk things out always makes me happy.
I’m really annoyed Nats spoke. Why was he even there? 🙄
Why is Nats even there him interrupting is so annoying
This was everything to me. Thank you for sharing. Patrick did a fantastic job
as a mediator.
We need Trisha & GG now
NATS WAS ANNOYING ASF TALKING LIKE A FREAKING MAGPIE WHAT THE FUCK! ...... I LOVE LA DEMI BUT SHE WAS INTENSE ALSO "LA DEMI" BECAME " LA POSSESSIVE " ....GURLLLLLLLLLL... AND GIGI ALSO SORT OF SELFISH HAHAHA TYPICAL TAURUS " MY WAY OR MY WAY" HAHAHAH
I love how real Demi and Gigi are being. Nats NEEDS to stay home next time!
Facts!!!!
I wish they could redo the video without Nats because he it just seems like he’s jumping on Demi
This video was so raw and sentimental that I literally teared up too!! So happy to see you both starting a new chapter together!
I’m so annoyed at the tone Nat had and the way he kept talking even though they were not listening because they were talking to each other. It’s really frustrating when in reality the issue is between them two. I don’t understand how Gigi and Nat got so defensive over Demi sharing how she felt like damn just listen for a damn second….
Im sorry but this doesn’t seem like closure to me, there’s way more “you made me feel” conversations that need to be talked about but Gigi seems to loud and I don’t mean in volume I mean like she’s so quick to get defensive and pinch at words rather than the whole sentence.
NATS WAS ANNOYING ASF TALKING LIKE A FREAKING MAGPIE WHAT THE FUCK! ...... I LOVE LA DEMI BUT SHE WAS INTENSE ALSO "LA DEMI" BECAME " LA POSSESSIVE " ....GURLLLLLLLLLL... AND GIGI ALSO SORT OF SELFISH HAHAHA TYPICAL TAURUS " MY WAY OR MY WAY" HAHAHAH
Gigi’s explanation for cutting La Demi out of the book was crap. If someone is that big of a part in your life, you keep them in it no matter what the relationship is now.
Nat shut up. Let Gigi and Demi talk. Stop trying to tell Demi how she felt
Forreal this is not his problem.
I get EXACTLY what La Demi is saying. When your friend is in a position/doing something/involved with something etc. whatever the case may be and you find yourself potentially in that same space, the *last* thing you want to do is make it seem like you're trying to step on their toes or steal their thunder. It is so incredibly sweet of La Demi to consider Gigi's feelings when it came to her own transition and how it could potentially make Gigi feel. Being aware (or even hyper aware) of how you could potentially make others feels is both a blessing and a curse, and it is so rare to come across others who take people into consideration to the extent that you did, La Demi .
Wishing you nothing but the best, I hope you are happy and living your best life xo
I wish Nats wouldn’t have interjected. It doesn’t feel like a safe space for La Demi.
I genuinely think that people were in Demi’s ear making her not want to be more open with Gigi. Demi just respected Gigi so much that she didn’t want to step on her toes wanting to be another pretty trans woman.
La Demi truly heartfelt and deep, opening up like that was very moving on your part.
Jeez Nats needs to chill tf out why’s he crying
Cause shes a spoiled
Brat bro