God’s judgement usually takes the form of God just leaving us alone to reap the consequences of our own bad decisions. It’s a lot more educational, convincing, and efficient
Modeling the fruit of the Spirit and walking in Divine Wisdom are two of the most important tasks men have within their families, church, and civil order.
Highly recommend studying through the Westminster Larger Catechism questions 123-133 on the fifth commandment to get a comprehensive survey on the duties and sins for covenant heads and their charges.
@@Theonly_Onyx You are asking a question of someone who is possessed by a demon. The answer to your question is simple, manger0175 is evil. Review the other comments manager0175 has made on this site and you will understand.
God bless you pastor Doug for this message. you made a confusion of texts Malachi 2:14-15 instead of Malachi 3:14-15. Greetings from Cameroon. It is such a blessing to listen. May God have mercy on your country. It is so sad what is happening to your country.
Besides the First Commandment and the 2nd which is like the 1st, this Masculinity Covenant concept is the most important… and we as a society have lost it. God help us! Great great video. Thank you
I always look forward to Doug’s words of exhortation, grace and wisdom. This one however sounds great in theory but pretty hopeless in reality. I’m afraid we are sinking beneath the waves before this ship can get turned around. But, with God all things are possible.
@@manager0175 Matthew 7:14 "...straight is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." Because people have not chosen love of Truth for their salvation, and the truth has not been modelled to them, they fall victim to subtle lies. Each subtle lie grows up and over us like a great bow and they mesh together until they block the light of truth from shining through from above into our consciousness. The result is we read certain scriptures and we can't see how they could possibly mean what they say, so because we are desperate for security and acceptance and love and respect, we go along with whatever our peer group claims to be the explanation for such scriptures so that we don't have to face our subversion and mal-socialisation. We are up against the common mind-set, which is Satanic-Matriarchal-Feminist-Macho-Bullshit, - in that order. We have to weed out one lie at a time and replace it with the best concept we can. Eventually you come out from under the common mind-set and the scriptures become definitive and authoritative. Then you're out on a limb because almost everyone is under the common mind-set to one degree or another. We have to become real believers not just professing Christians under a mind-set.
Of all my studying and listening to sermons, this video is what stacked all the pieces for me to realize how disordered America is in neglecting covenantal design. Wow.
We need to remember the reason for a limited Federal government. Each State was supposed to be Governed as that State's people saw fit within the parameters of the Constitution, but each as its own, well, State.
This sums up where we’re at today. The knowledge of how to actually do this hasn’t been passed down for a few generations. I think Doug and his friends do more than others to explain it out, but I also feel a long way off from the ideal
Widows became heads of households in such cases where they were confirmed as widows (see Paul's unpacking of this in 1 Timothy 5:9-16) They would be exceptions to the rule, not norms.
@@AndrewAdcock Yes, widows became heads of their households in lieu of a husband. Wilson is talking about representation in a congregational setting ( ie church or state relations ). In this case who represents their house in the assemblies?
@@BossBattle21 in the church, Pastor/Elders represent her household. In the State, the elected officials - all of which would be men who are heads of their own households. Their Fatherhood should produce a connection with the widows in the meaningful way that they seek the same ends - i.e. the promotion of the family and its well being.
@@AndrewAdcock Ok, with the state representation. Obviously it doesn't matter if it's widows or full families we have representatives fulfilling their duty for a large number of families. With the church though, depending on how the congregation is governed, putting all of the widows and their families under the authority of an elder (or possibly deacon) effectively disenfranchises those families from any kind of independent opinion.
If we return to covenant thinking, women families, and communities would all be protected. The pervasive concept of individualism has separated (and deceived us). Not that we should think like collectivist (i.e. communist) but we should think of our family as a unit independent from other families, community, and society. No different than a child leaving his parents for independence. That naturally requires order, discipline, and heirarchy (which is really maturity) of which covenant thinking supplies.
So should churches that take a vote of their members in congregational meetings take a vote of the household or the individual members? It seems to me it should be per household.
Despite what people think, voting was reserved to those who had a stake in society. Property owners were generally the only ones allowed to vote because it was believed they wouldn't vote against the interests of society. Once people figured out they can vote themselves the rights to what other people have worked for, it was over. That is why women were not allowed to vote. They think with their emotions, not their logic. It has nothing to do with patriarchy. If feminists were as smart as they think they are they would realize how valued women are. The day you let Betty Friedan convince you that a man opening the door for you was sexist, it was over.
@@davidrisselada6199 Wait till they figure out "She is Risen" is the logical implication of preterism and the resurrection fulfilled. Talking about collapsing the entire Moscow project from the preterism they promote. So ironic.
He's a nut case as well as dangerous. His views of women are sick and shocking. He also believes that men should be able to rape their wives. “Of course a husband is never trespassing in his own garden.” A “woman receives, surrenders, accepts”. Evil!
He knows the word covenant but demonstrates no knowledge of the new covenant. Instead, he distorts the gospel of Grace and teaches Bill Gotthard's doctrine rather than the Apostles' teaching.
Excelent! Spot on argument, well, everything except the first part about the Covenant at creation. The Bible nowhere mentions the Covenants of Works and Grace. Hosea 6:7 read in its proper Hebrew context is a very geographic passage talking about the city of Adam, it even has the Hebrew word שם which literally means "there", so it's not talking about Adam the person. Also Paul explicitly puts the New Covenant against Sinai and Jeremiah tells us that the New Covenant is unlike the Old, so they can't be part of the same covenant of grace. As for everything else, amen and amen.
That view of Hosea 6:7 seems to be the minority view. The MT reads כְּאָדָם (keʾadam, “like Adam” or “as [sinful] men”); however, the editors of BHS suggest this reflects an orthographic confusion of בְּאָדָם (beʾadam, “at Adam”), as suggested by the locative adverb שָׁם (sham, “there”) in the following line. However, שָׁם sometimes functions in a nonlocative sense similar to the deictic particle הִנֵּה (hinneh, “Behold!”). The singular noun אָדָם (ʾadam) has been taken in several different ways: (1) proper name: “like Adam” (כְּאָדָם), (2) collective singular: “like [sinful] men” (כְּאָדָם), and (3) proper location: “at Adam,” referring to a city in the Jordan Valley (Josh 3:16), emending comparative כְּ (kaf) to locative בְּ (bet, “at”): “at Adam” (בְּאָדָם). BDB 9 s.v. אָדָם 2 suggests the collective sense, referring to sinful men (Num 5:6; 1 Kgs 8:46; 2 Chr 6:36; Jer 10:14; Job 31:33; Hos 6:7). The English versions are divided: KJV margin, ASV, RSV margin, NASB, NIV, TEV margin, NLT “like Adam”; RSV, NRSV, TEV “at Adam”; and KJV “like men.” So, you have to change the text of Scripture to get LOCATION. - I'd be interested in reading what the LXX says though.
Okay, interesting, the LXX translates as "they are as a (sinful) man" - not locative. αὐτοὶ δέ εἰσιν ὡς ἄνθρωπος παραβαίνων διαθήκην ἐκεῖ κατεφρόνησέν μου
@@AndrewAdcock you are absolutely right right sir. It is the minority view. Most reformed folk today are covenantalist, and thus I reflects that very few would argue for my position, however if you look at the passage carefully, you'd see that two other geographical places (a city and region) are named and the city of Adam was right in the middle of both. You couldn't get from one to the other without crossing the city of Adam. As for the Masoteric text, I am of the thought that the dead sea scrolls (which support my position) are far more reliable, ancient and faithful to the original text, but again that's also a minority position.
These are a lot of nice things to say, but no church will allow such manly representation within their walls. I daresay not even you, Doug Wilson, would allow for real men to hold court with you and your church and challenge the status quo of your doctrine and government. For example, I am a man who can explain to you how neither Calvinism nor Arminianism contain the truth of the gospel, and can expound to you the one and only everlasting Gospel. But I daresay you care not to hear such explanations, and if you bothered to listen to them, you certainly wouldn't allow them to affect your your prayer life, your thinking, or your doctrine, as doing so would be to admit you have something to learn. No, man cannot do as you suggest here, because there is not a church on the face of the earth who will accept the real man who brings accountability to the body of Christ, as they don't know how to deal with him. If the man needs to be corrected, they cannot correct him, as they themselves need to drink milk. And if the church elders need to change in response to his correction, they refuse in order to not loose face.
If we return to covenant thinking, women families, and communities would all be protected. The pervasive concept of individualism has separated (and deceived us). Not that we should think like collectivist (i.e. communist) but we should think of our family as a unit independent from other families, community, and society. No different than a child leaving his parents for independence. That naturally requires order, discipline, and heirarchy (which is really maturity) of which covenant thinking supplies.
Summarizes beautifully how we got here! May the Lord grant Us repentance to "quit us like men" for a great harvest in these Last Days!!!
When God judges a people he gives them wicked rulers, wicked people elect wicked rulers
We're all in the same bucket and it makes me sad.
God’s judgement usually takes the form of God just leaving us alone to reap the consequences of our own bad decisions. It’s a lot more educational, convincing, and efficient
@@manager0175lol
@@manager0175 is there any documentation for this?
Like Doug Wilson
Every covenant home needs a head, "Let His kingdom come and His will be done,"
Modeling the fruit of the Spirit and walking in Divine Wisdom are two of the most important tasks men have within their families, church, and civil order.
Highly recommend studying through the Westminster Larger Catechism questions 123-133 on the fifth commandment to get a comprehensive survey on the duties and sins for covenant heads and their charges.
Full caffeine, fresh ground Christianity. Thank you. 👌
May the LORD greatly bless Pastor Wilson, and may the Kingdom be grown through his ministry
@@manager0175 why?
@@Theonly_Onyx You are asking a question of someone who is possessed by a demon. The answer to your question is simple, manger0175 is evil. Review the other comments manager0175 has made on this site and you will understand.
This moron wilson is as fucked up as the Convicted Conman trump.
God bless you pastor Doug for this message. you made a confusion of texts Malachi 2:14-15 instead of Malachi 3:14-15. Greetings from Cameroon.
It is such a blessing to listen. May God have mercy on your country. It is so sad what is happening to your country.
Besides the First Commandment and the 2nd which is like the 1st, this Masculinity Covenant concept is the most important… and we as a society have lost it. God help us! Great great video. Thank you
I always look forward to Doug’s words of exhortation, grace and wisdom. This one however sounds great in theory but pretty hopeless in reality. I’m afraid we are sinking beneath the waves before this ship can get turned around. But, with God all things are possible.
”Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not?“
Jonah 3:9
@@manager0175
Matthew 7:14
"...straight is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."
Because people have not chosen love of Truth for their salvation, and the truth has not been modelled to them, they fall victim to subtle lies.
Each subtle lie grows up and over us like a great bow and they mesh together until they block the light of truth from shining through from above into our consciousness.
The result is we read certain scriptures and we can't see how they could possibly mean what they say, so because we are desperate for security and acceptance and love and respect, we go along with whatever our peer group claims to be the explanation for such scriptures so that we don't have to face our subversion and mal-socialisation.
We are up against the common mind-set, which is Satanic-Matriarchal-Feminist-Macho-Bullshit, - in that order.
We have to weed out one lie at a time and replace it with the best concept we can.
Eventually you come out from under the common mind-set and the scriptures become definitive and authoritative.
Then you're out on a limb because almost everyone is under the common mind-set to one degree or another.
We have to become real believers not just professing Christians under a mind-set.
Of all my studying and listening to sermons, this video is what stacked all the pieces for me to realize how disordered America is in neglecting covenantal design. Wow.
6:30 super ultra mega based
We need to remember the reason for a limited Federal government. Each State was supposed to be Governed as that State's people saw fit within the parameters of the Constitution, but each as its own, well, State.
As the government should when the subject is baby murder.
Not only are we ruled by women and foreigners as a judgement, we (the entirety of Christendom 1.0) are being overrun by foreigners. Wut do?
I’m sorry, I don’t know how
This sums up where we’re at today. The knowledge of how to actually do this hasn’t been passed down for a few generations. I think Doug and his friends do more than others to explain it out, but I also feel a long way off from the ideal
Unfortunately wr are out of your book "Future Men" in Brazil...
You had me at the first sentence.
This was phenomenal
Excellent
So, who represented Dorcas in Acts 9 or Lydia in Acts 16?
Widows became heads of households in such cases where they were confirmed as widows (see Paul's unpacking of this in 1 Timothy 5:9-16) They would be exceptions to the rule, not norms.
@@AndrewAdcock
Yes, widows became heads of their households in lieu of a husband. Wilson is talking about representation in a congregational setting ( ie church or state relations ).
In this case who represents their house in the assemblies?
@@BossBattle21 in the church, Pastor/Elders represent her household. In the State, the elected officials - all of which would be men who are heads of their own households. Their Fatherhood should produce a connection with the widows in the meaningful way that they seek the same ends - i.e. the promotion of the family and its well being.
@@AndrewAdcock
Ok, with the state representation. Obviously it doesn't matter if it's widows or full families we have representatives fulfilling their duty for a large number of families. With the church though, depending on how the congregation is governed, putting all of the widows and their families under the authority of an elder (or possibly deacon) effectively disenfranchises those families from any kind of independent opinion.
Maybe the problem is thinking that families should be imposing “independent opinion” on the church…
Hear! Hear!
Rom 8 submit to the higher powers, they are put there by God
Romans 13, not 8.
Thanks, my bad
If we return to covenant thinking, women families, and communities would all be protected. The pervasive concept of individualism has separated (and deceived us). Not that we should think like collectivist (i.e. communist) but we should think of our family as a unit independent from other families, community, and society. No different than a child leaving his parents for independence. That naturally requires order, discipline, and heirarchy (which is really maturity) of which covenant thinking supplies.
So should churches that take a vote of their members in congregational meetings take a vote of the household or the individual members? It seems to me it should be per household.
Listening
What in the world? Are you saying women shouldn't have the right to vote?
Yes, that is the implication of his Patriarchialism.
Despite what people think, voting was reserved to those who had a stake in society. Property owners were generally the only ones allowed to vote because it was believed they wouldn't vote against the interests of society. Once people figured out they can vote themselves the rights to what other people have worked for, it was over. That is why women were not allowed to vote. They think with their emotions, not their logic. It has nothing to do with patriarchy. If feminists were as smart as they think they are they would realize how valued women are. The day you let Betty Friedan convince you that a man opening the door for you was sexist, it was over.
@@davidrisselada6199
Wait till they figure out "She is Risen" is the logical implication of preterism and the resurrection fulfilled.
Talking about collapsing the entire Moscow project from the preterism they promote.
So ironic.
He's a nut case as well as dangerous. His views of women are sick and shocking. He also believes that men should be able to rape their wives. “Of course a husband is never trespassing in his own garden.” A “woman receives, surrenders, accepts”. Evil!
A boost for D Dub
He knows the word covenant but demonstrates no knowledge of the new covenant. Instead, he distorts the gospel of Grace and teaches Bill Gotthard's doctrine rather than the Apostles' teaching.
This is the old covenant pattern that is at the heart of the Moscow Project.
Nailed it!
Don't believe all the lies.
Robert Morris is gone; how long does Doug have left before his downfall?
No connection whatsoever. Morris was vv o k e
@@cosmictreason2242I don’t know about him being woke, but his theology was deceived
@@cosmictreason2242 how was Morris woke?? He was one of Trump’s spiritual advisors!
@@aallen5256 i don't know a single solid Christian pastor that was his spiritual advisor
@@cosmictreason2242 oh right, so how was Morris woke??
Excelent! Spot on argument, well, everything except the first part about the Covenant at creation. The Bible nowhere mentions the Covenants of Works and Grace. Hosea 6:7 read in its proper Hebrew context is a very geographic passage talking about the city of Adam, it even has the Hebrew word שם which literally means "there", so it's not talking about Adam the person. Also Paul explicitly puts the New Covenant against Sinai and Jeremiah tells us that the New Covenant is unlike the Old, so they can't be part of the same covenant of grace. As for everything else, amen and amen.
That view of Hosea 6:7 seems to be the minority view.
The MT reads כְּאָדָם (keʾadam, “like Adam” or “as [sinful] men”); however, the editors of BHS suggest this reflects an orthographic confusion of בְּאָדָם (beʾadam, “at Adam”), as suggested by the locative adverb שָׁם (sham, “there”) in the following line. However, שָׁם sometimes functions in a nonlocative sense similar to the deictic particle הִנֵּה (hinneh, “Behold!”). The singular noun אָדָם (ʾadam) has been taken in several different ways: (1) proper name: “like Adam” (כְּאָדָם), (2) collective singular: “like [sinful] men” (כְּאָדָם), and (3) proper location: “at Adam,” referring to a city in the Jordan Valley (Josh 3:16), emending comparative כְּ (kaf) to locative בְּ (bet, “at”): “at Adam” (בְּאָדָם). BDB 9 s.v. אָדָם 2 suggests the collective sense, referring to sinful men (Num 5:6; 1 Kgs 8:46; 2 Chr 6:36; Jer 10:14; Job 31:33; Hos 6:7). The English versions are divided: KJV margin, ASV, RSV margin, NASB, NIV, TEV margin, NLT “like Adam”; RSV, NRSV, TEV “at Adam”; and KJV “like men.”
So, you have to change the text of Scripture to get LOCATION. - I'd be interested in reading what the LXX says though.
Okay, interesting, the LXX translates as "they are as a (sinful) man" - not locative.
αὐτοὶ δέ εἰσιν ὡς ἄνθρωπος παραβαίνων διαθήκην ἐκεῖ κατεφρόνησέν μου
@@AndrewAdcock you are absolutely right right sir. It is the minority view. Most reformed folk today are covenantalist, and thus I reflects that very few would argue for my position, however if you look at the passage carefully, you'd see that two other geographical places (a city and region) are named and the city of Adam was right in the middle of both. You couldn't get from one to the other without crossing the city of Adam. As for the Masoteric text, I am of the thought that the dead sea scrolls (which support my position) are far more reliable, ancient and faithful to the original text, but again that's also a minority position.
This is 100% backward. You’re not going to lure women back into servitude.
LOL!!!
Separation of Church and State.
These are a lot of nice things to say, but no church will allow such manly representation within their walls. I daresay not even you, Doug Wilson, would allow for real men to hold court with you and your church and challenge the status quo of your doctrine and government. For example, I am a man who can explain to you how neither Calvinism nor Arminianism contain the truth of the gospel, and can expound to you the one and only everlasting Gospel. But I daresay you care not to hear such explanations, and if you bothered to listen to them, you certainly wouldn't allow them to affect your your prayer life, your thinking, or your doctrine, as doing so would be to admit you have something to learn. No, man cannot do as you suggest here, because there is not a church on the face of the earth who will accept the real man who brings accountability to the body of Christ, as they don't know how to deal with him. If the man needs to be corrected, they cannot correct him, as they themselves need to drink milk. And if the church elders need to change in response to his correction, they refuse in order to not loose face.
Mega MAGA
Did you discover that mind in your colon?
If we return to covenant thinking, women families, and communities would all be protected. The pervasive concept of individualism has separated (and deceived us). Not that we should think like collectivist (i.e. communist) but we should think of our family as a unit independent from other families, community, and society. No different than a child leaving his parents for independence. That naturally requires order, discipline, and heirarchy (which is really maturity) of which covenant thinking supplies.
Exactly 👍
🤣
Quite a not you created, while twisting your words.