Plato: The Student Becomes the Teacher
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- He may have started as Socrates' pupil, but he grew into an enlightened man who is arguably the most influential thinker in the history of the world.
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Alfred North Whitehead: : “The safest general characterization of the European philosophical tradition is that it consists of a series of footnotes to Plato.”
This made my morning. Or rather, my morning was already made, I just remembered it.
The Good in your morning is above and beyond your every day experiences in the physical world.
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That's a solid comment...
So certain were You. Go back and closer you must Look.
I recently read "The Republic" by Plato. It was an exercise in examining how best to manage a society or civilization. In the end I realized it was something that applies to each individual as well. Do yourself a favor and spend time on yourself and those you care about and try to limit the amount of time spent under the direction of others...like entertainers.
I haven't read the Republic... but wasn't it anti-democracy and (if you believe some philosophy professors like AC Grayling) some what fascist? As you've read it I thought you may have some insight. I heard he was in favour of a benevolent King over Athenian democracy.
Did it help you fall asleep?
"limit the amount of time spent under the direction of others....like entertainers"???? You mean....NO TV? Quite un-American of you to say that (I am assuming you are American, apologies if you are not!)
A republic does not equate to fascism. The united stated is a constitutional republic, not in fact a democracy. We elect representatives to hold up our ideals. The process has democratic aspects to it but true democracy isn’t realistic.
@Timothy McCaskey I interpret that Socrates/Plato was critical of an uninformed, unchecked democracy, like was found in his day in Athens, or by extension, in the USA. He/they seemed to feel that a democracy populated by under-educated and unphilosophical citizens would make poor decisions and thus be easily swayed by demagogues /political opportunists. An educated and scrupulous populace might therefore make for a proper democracy.
Also, while his/their ideal utopia smacks of fascism to the modern ear, the ancient ideal of the philosopher was implied to have superhuman attributes of morality and wisdom (similar to a Stoic sage, or a bodhisattva, or a Buddha, or a Christian Saint) not just mere dialectic and intellectualism like today. In other words, only a "True Philosopher" is fit to rule responsibly.
I hope this helps . . . .
Aristotle to Plato: "The circle is now complete. When I left you, I was but the learner. Now I am the Master."
Only a master of Evil Darth
Look at me I am the captain now.
Putin said that to his KGB mentor when he visited him on his 90th birthday. No joke he really did
@@ash7324 What? "look at me I am the captain now"? wasn't expecting that.
@@jamesjross unfortunately no 😂 but I guess that would also be applicable 😅
“It’s just forms?”
“It always has been”
"Who died and left Aristotle in charge of ethics?"
This has been my favourite of all the Bio videos. Thank you.
In a Humanities class one of the papers we had to write was one where 2 philosophers would meet and discuss. I chose DeCarte and Plato and made it humorous. Plato walks into a bar called Foolossofers wearing a shirt that says The Academy Rules, he sits down and a bar waitress comes over and asks "Mr. Plato, what's your poison?" Plato replies "Who do I look like, Socrates?"
LMBO
Ah yes Pythagoras theorem in skool maths on a wet Monday morning
As the great philosophers Bill & Ted could often been heard saying, “So-crates is excellent smart”.
Don't forget those excellent philosophers, Monty Python's Flying Circus, and their sage words on the matter "Socartes himself was permanently piiiiiissed!"
I had to do that in Philosophy but it was any historical figure. I chose Hitler and Jesus. I was still christian at the time lol didn't even realize that the Vatican celebrated Hitler's birthday during his time in power.
1:35 - Chapter 1 - Early life
4:05 - Chapter 2 - Influences
9:15 - Chapter 3 - Philosophy & famous works
15:10 - Chapter 4 - Later life & legacy
There’s only room enough for one teacher’s pet
Ancient Greek and roman biographics are the best. For anyone who's interested I'd definitely recommend an audiobook of Caesars commentaries on the gaelic wars. 7 hours long but absolutely fascinating 👍
If you enjoyed Ceasar's Gallic Wars much as I do TH-cam has an audiobook narrated by the same amazing narrator (Charlton Griffen) and It's called "Alexander the Great Anabasis by Arrian- audiobook Complete 12 hours". It's almost twice as long as Caesar's and every bit as an amazing piece of story telling and history. Alexander led a short but Charmed life and remember when Ceasar's firsts trip to Egypt he went to see Alexander's Tomb and he wept because Alexander had conquered the world at 30 and Ceasar had yet to accomplish anything compared to him.
Side note.. I think it's also very interesting that Augustus when he was 32 did the same as Ceasar and went to Alexander's Tomb and I think he came away thinking he had outdone Alexander since he had conquered and Empire and it actually functions.
@@Wallyworld30 cheers, 30 and conquered most of the known world and a few thousand years later the average age to get a mortgage on a house is 32 😂😂🤦♂️
@@Wallyworld30 I just wanted to add that the gaelic wars book was actually written by Caeser in the third person. Thanks again though 👍
Some people I'd like to see a Biographics video about:
Abraham Lincoln
David Bowie
Ralph Waldo Emerson
Henry David Thoreau
Walt Whitman
Kurt Cobain
Thomas Jefferson
Freddie Mercury
Jimmy Carter
Ulysses S. Grant
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
William Wordsworth
Calvin Coolidge
Why no women?
@Henryk Gödel "You're" and "one's"
Henryk Gödel yes, how about those witches who started BLM. Simply write and report the truth and watch the SJW cry
@@john-paulsilke893 what??
@Henryk Gödel
I am also free to simply ask you a question. You don't have to answer it like you're my mother, in a reproving, prissy, hurt manner that includes an insult, because you're inexplicably offended by my asking if there are any women you'd like to see. I liked your list of subjects, and I was interested in what women you'd like to hear about, but you had to get offended/defensive, or whatever you are. I guess you're extremely sensitive, so, as I tell mom, I didn't mean anything by it, I was just asking a question. Now you can go off again on how entitled as a woman you think I'm being.
I have my first Intro to Philosophy test this Tuesday. Thank you for putting this out at just the ideal time.
Another brilliant biography. I suspect one reason Plato lived a long life was because he maintained an active brain. Even today education is associated with longer lifespan. Another reason may be because many aesthetics of the age believed that exercise and eating rationally helped maintain mental acuity.
Love the style of this channel!
Plato's impact on the way the modern Christian gospel is understood and preached also cannot be overstated. Through St Augustine, Plato's ideas form part of the backbone of the vast bulk of Christian preaching today, both protestant and catholic.
Do zenon of kition next, a philosopher playlist would be nice
wasn't this the guy who continued to get trolled by Diogenes?
"behold! Platos man!" as Diogenes throws down a featherless bipod on the floor of the Academy
Underrated comment 😂😂
a lot of people got trolled by diogenes,
Diogenes was a G.
Diogenes was the OG madlad.
16:00 Diogenes would be an exception, living 10ish years longer seemingly without any medical care at all.
Out of sheer will to spite his haters lol
Relishing in your own filth & sniffing your own farts = the key to longevity.
@@d.c.8828 just let the dogs determine when you're time is up.
He was busy plucking chickens and letting them run around screaming there goes another human. It was his sarcastic laughter and public masterbation that made him live so long.
@@d.c.8828 not bathing is quite different to relishing in filth... that was Alastair Crowley haha 😂
Another good one Simon. Many thanks. I've said it before and I'll say it again, please do your take on David Bowie.
Ah yes a great beard to rival Simon Whistler, bit we all know the great Simon holds more knowledge.
that is a strong chin for a strong boi
You know he's reading a script right?
You watch over simplified too?
He stands on the shoulders of giants
If thou doubtst the power of the ancient beard of Whistler as gifted to the earth by mighty Zeus then thou shall be struck down by the might of the Gods.
Plato is by far my favorite philosopher
This is the type of biographic that will make you become a philosophy major.
If only this were a longer video, lots of valuable informations, thank you.
I want to thank you and the team for all the excellent content. It really keeps me going :)
Aristotle:
I think mr. Biographics parts his _hair_ way too platon 🤔
Love your videos. Appreciate all the knowledge that you're dropping on us.
any chance you can do one on the Royal Saudi Arabian family.
I always appreciate the amount of care and detail that goes into these videos. Keep up the good work! Also, I'd suggest Epicurus as a future subject for a video as he was very influential to a number of great philosophers and one of my personal favorites to read about.
You must also be a big fan of Wikipedia. Biographics is entertainment. Many dubious assertions abound in these videos.
do a biographic on Sun Ra, one of the most mysterious and great jazz composers
YES!!!
A great suggestion! Herman Blount was so far ahead of his time that he makes Lady Gaga look conservative....he must have been kind of a savant, since he was so unbelievably talented at such an early age.
Not a suggestion I expected at all here, but a really great one! Sun Ra is incredible.
I loved doing Plato at uni. This video is being back great memories.
Please do John Milton next. He’s the most important poet to the English language that not enough people know. He literally rivals Shakespeare in terms of his literary influence. Not to mention that his life is incredibly moving to learn about. I’m sure you’d make an incredible vid on him!
I have just discovered this world, idk what it is but it is amazing and sparks something inside me. I am going to look up the poet you speak of, thank you for sharing knowledge.
An object known as the Ring of Gyges which allows a person to become invisible at will? Getting some Lord of the Rings vibes here.
Great video! I recently watched the one on Howard Hughes. How about doing one on Aristotle Onassis?
IT would be amazing to watch a Biographics on David Hume, Rene Descrates . Love this one :)
Like the music at the end of the video. Well done👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
This is the one video so powerful that it needed no sponsorship whatsoever.
Good to see philosophers here, rather than random criminals and pirates
Hand over your philosophies matey or walk the plank...!
You could almost say Plato is the... platonic ideal of Greek philosophy!
Simon Whistler u r the best podcaster out there ryt nw-keep up the great work👌🙌
Geez there were a lot of Euclid class entities in Ancient Greece.
If you're interested in a quick read of Plato, to sort of get an idea of who he is and who Socrates was, check out "The Apology". It's an account of the trial of Socrates in 399 B.C., where Socrates was tried in front of a jury of 501 jurors. I won't spoil the ending for you, but it's worth the read.
Does it involve Hemlock?
@@john-paulsilke893 It does if you continue on to the book of Phaedo, which is usually included with the apology. the saddest part is when Phaedo describes the guard pouring the hemlock and everyone in the cell can no longer hold back their tears, with the exception of Socrates. It gets me every time.
TheLacedaemonian300 like a Gladiator. Socrates was a beast.
@@john-paulsilke893 You're damn right he was, brother!
TheLacedaemonian300 and by the way, you aren’t the only man brought to his knees in a blubbering mess of tears. (And yes I am aware of his many, many faults.)
Today, his name would have been *SWOLE*
a conclusion based on years and years of research and study as a dean of the faculty of....
I loved the episode on Aristotle and am therefore eager to explore this one. 😊
Were Monty Python correct, was Aristotle a bugger for the bottle?
@@cavramau Now we.need one on Socrates ro see if he was really permanently pissed...
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Hi from New York.
Excellent.
Thank you
When we getting a video on the great travles of ibn battuta Simon?
Great evaluation there Simon 👍, would you think of doing another sister channel called philosophic-graphics? I would definitely subscribe to that 🤓
I’ve been waiting for this
It was to short, but thank you.
Thanks.
For the willing ones to try and study Plato from his own text: the form of attic dialect Plato writes, is considered the highest for the Ancient Greek language ever reached.
More please. But the theories hurt my head.
Interesting video
How about general Montgomery?
(Btw LOVE your videos)
Rebecca's Goldstein wrote a great book called Plato at the Googleplex in which she uses Plato's voice and philosophy to comment on the 21st century. It's an interesting and engaging book that's as creative as it is thought provoking.
Thank you for this.
Hi Simon very off topic but could there be any chance of a Bio on a Great British comic like Steve Coogan or some one such as... I’m appealing to your British side on this! As a fellow Brit this would be awesome. Love your work and the beard, ‘‘tis mighty
Fun fact plato means plate in my language
paulo arguelles Australian?
Liliana Bray 😂😂😂
" board" for his physical appearance
Spanish plato (plate) comes from Latin plattus and is actually a borrowing from Greek πλατύς which in turn is used to derive Πλάτων with the suffix -ων.
Neato
Love the show. could you do one on Harald Hardrade or maby Snorted Sturlason? Like I said love you do, thanks.
Don't forget, he also invented the plate.
And Socrates invented soccer.
Thank you for sharing this wise troll
More philosophy topics ❣ There are so many to choose from!!
Interesting vid. 😊👍 But the piano coming in was very distracting.
Thank you very much for this, but please, next time, slow down a bit.
You should do your biography Simon!
Could you do a video about Ruth Bader Ginsberg next, now that she's passed away?
@raymond terry Wow...Well done on making that needlessly contentious.
I just saw that today... So 😥...
@raymond terry I believe that in the 1st trimester, abortion isn't murder as it's 1st only a group of cells, then a zygote, & at like 2 1/2- 3 months an embryo... What if the Mom was raped?? Why would anyone give birth to the (more than likely) sadistic spawn of an evil rapist monster??
Jamell Foster you believe in abortion because it is needed to make women exactly equal to men. This is an argument you can apply universally to your other political principles. Any other argument you make falls short of the ability to apply it universally.
In the case of rape the resulting baby did nothing wrong. She doesn’t have to raise it herself she can put it up for adoption.
@raymond terry So long as you accept the outrages perpetrated by your own 'side' as 'true'. I am guessing you don't.
A video on Joachim Von Ribbentrop or Wilhelm Keitel please!
There are a number of parallels between Platonic philosophy and Hindu/yogic mysticism. William James’ work “Varieties of Religious Experience” sheds some light on the modes of experience that lend themselves to such metaphysical philosophies (e.g. the experience of “divine insight” viewed through a psychological lens that makes such phenomena relatively understandable to people who have never had such an experience).
more philosophers please!:)
I used to clock in with a different person every week, plato was my first
I am once again asking for a video on Augustus Caesar
interesting to see that socrates portrayal in AC: Odyssey resembles a lot with the character portrayed in Plato's view.
Out of everything I learned/read in my college western humanities class, Plato was the most confusing. The theory of forms was supposed to take up like 5-10 mins but instead it took up the entire 45 minute class, partially because while my teacher was great he wasn’t the best at explaining things and his answers to people questions seemed contradictory. Reading the republic and allegory of the cave was so confusing it was mind numbing and it felt like I didn’t understand English trying to understand what he was trying to say. Now that it’s been a few years and I’ve learned more about philosophy I’m going to revisit them but it also sounds like torture (with my ADHD and ASD I can’t follow audiobooks so I have to actually sit and read it)
I used to play with that stuff when I was a kid
I would imagine that Pluto's writings of Socrates were made to make up for the fact that Socrates hated writing as he thought it was an ineffective way of transmitting information and made the mind lazy.
I'd like to suggest a video on Rene Descartes
First realm - material world
Second Realm - casual images
Third realm - Plato’s beliefs
**This is blowing my mind**
I thought this a bit scant. No mention of The republic and little attention to the rest of his body of works, nor a mention that Plato is the father of the term Platonic relationship.
its a 15 min video! Not a f*king 4 volume hard back book collection, not a BBC mini series, not a university thesis,...... FFS!
I got a little jumpscared when the music began 💀
i feel like a lot of stuff these ancient philosophers wondered was the same stuff we wondered as kid
Probably because your language as a kid was already prepared by Greek thinking that seeped in common language. If you inspect kids at least before modern period in non-western countries... I doubt if these are the things which they wonder about or talk about. Language around kids, the grammatical structure prepares children to think readily about these things. If you look at Ancient China or even Archaic Greece itself before Aeschylus, language was very advanced, highly poetic and reflective but primitive also in some areas, almost incapable of thinking critically. The topics and gifts that language provides then are about dwelling harmoniously and religiously within a tradition and respect. The lack of independent nuclear families but large clan structures which take kid's attention away from independent thinking, even independence as such is really strong. People back then were seldom "individuals" in today's sense
11:50 Kept waiting for a Zuckerberg/blue reference to drop, but then remembered this isn’t Business Blaze.
Please do a video about Cicero
YES!!!!
Please please please do Jacques Lacan at some point c:
Can you do one on Herodotus?
@Biographics Can we get a (St.) Augustine of Hippo?! And a Democritus bio! And, while I’m at it lol since I just rewatched The Iron Lady on Netflix, I was shocked to find there wasn’t one on Margaret Thatcher. I came on after I watched it, when I realized that I am so used to this format of learning about someone, where it’s like you get a “quasi cliffs notes plus” amount of info on someone. So if you didn’t know who they were, it’s the perfect length of time to decide if it’s someone you want to delve into further and find more documentaries or just take what you got from this and move forward lol like short enough that you’re glad you learned something new but didn’t waste hours on something you don’t enjoy. Like you’re not watching a 12 episode long docu-series on Netflix, feeling robbed of your time. (which I feel like lately half of them take an hour and a half‘s worth of information and spread it so thin over six or seven hours to just keep it going, using a lot of aerial shots of forests or a bustling city or whatever) anyway, that was a weird tangent and I almost never leave comments lol let alone asking for content but just wanted to say thank you to Simon and everyone at biographics for finally revealing your plans of world domination by conditioning me to not watch any other bio type channels 😆 way to go. I can’t even sit through them without Simon’s narration, picking up his super sarcastic tone when something is like a blatant joke, but also when you hear, super subtly, the tiniest bit of aggravation but like about someone’s behavior who lived a thousand years ago and cheated on their wife or something lol that’s the best.
“when I left you,But the learner, I was.The master, now I am.”
-Darth Vader
Of evil only, a master thou art.
Nerds lol sorry had to do it.
I Can't really say tht when I'm sitting here watching a biographics video with yall, I guess I'm a bit ofna nerd too, just more of a history nerd not a star wars nerd I guess u could say
I still have yet to read the republic and I know that’s not good. I need to get on that!
Since a biopic on John brown is premiering on October 4 can you do a full story on him
"Realm of the Forms: well this one is hard to explain so here's a bad example," his most essential concept and not at all hard to explain
Simon, we need RBG biography!
Sounds like the difference between idea and individual physical manifestations of what the idea represents.
Perhaps we could get a bio on Friedrich Hegel? He influenced many modern thinkers, Including Marx
Please do a biography on Shaun Tomson
Please make a video on Joachim Von Ribbentrop
Plato the original metaverse philosopher.
Wow amazing man, glad watched this, there was i thinking he invented plates !!!
Hey can you do one on President Grover Cleveland, the president who had two non-consecutive terms as the 22nd and 24th president?
Plato, they say, could stick it away. Half a crate of whiskey every day.
I was wondering what myth Tolkien used for the One Ring.
No one would act morally with invisibility. We can't even act morally when we are visible.
One on Seneca please