There's a detail about Jerry Doyle's performance as Garibaldi that I had no idea about until after his death. Jerry Doyle himself was a chronic alcoholic throughout his life. He knew exactly where Garibaldis head was at.
to start with i love garibaldi and marcus cole there my two favorite characters in B5 and that's saying a lot when you look at the other characters in the setting. as for the fighter wing you could also say that its a show of ill faith in the babylon project (for anyone that doesn't know that's the program that set up the construction of B1 through B5, there's a bit more too it but that's always the case with any story in Babylon 5) that the people with the purse strings was like ""ok fine you made it to two years i guess we can finally release the funding for you"" because they didnt thing they would make it this far so why waste money on the station.
I do love how flawed the characters are in this show, especially in Garibaldi. He reminds me a little of Saul Tigh from BSG. 'Chaotic good'...love the DnD references.
after the "good guy is wrongly accused and has to go rogue to prove his innocence" trope is played out why is said good guy always let off the hook completely? sure he did not plant the bomb, in this case, but garibaldi still went rogue, avaded capture and potentially could have prevented the course of justice.
Lore said that this episode did a few things badly, and neglected to point out exactly what they were. I'll go ahead and say one - the actress who plays Garibaldi's childhood frenemy, the presidential security lady? She has NO chemistry with Jerry Doyle, and gives a generally poor performance as this character. She's trying way too hard to seem professional and bossy and cold, and it just comes across incredibly flat and dull and not at all like the wounded, bitter person which the lines describe her as. Between her bad acting and the other aspects of this episode, I literally fell asleep while watching it, and don't care enough to go back and watch it again before I continue moving on through the series.
I would not say that it is episode-destroying, but it is annoying and taking away from the otherwise great episode. Perhaps lack of Chemistry, perhaps it was overacted. Regardless - she seems like a cartoonish evil character.
@@jannegrey I wouldn't say evil, more like bitter and spiteful, though it's a fine line. She's definitely going for the obstructionist bureaucrat archetype, rather than some actual black hat villain, but like I said, very poorly acted either way.
@@EnvisionerWill Yeah I agree. The main difference is that I'm not sure whether it was 100% actress fault or if she received poor guidance from the Director. Because on repeat viewings I tend to skip most of her parts and just look at what others do. I allow her the initial scene, the one where Sinclair rebukes her (but that's for him, not for her) and the last one. When she is on her vendetta.... I guess I did meet one or two people like her in the real life, who were also this cartoonish, but it's a rarity. And this makes the "making up" scene unbelievable. As in - I can't believe she would actually come to her senses that easily - not in the way the character was portrayed. Thank you for responding. Stay safe and be well.
Can't believe these Babylon 5 videos. I was expecting the same kind of criticism and nitpicking as in the Star Trek vids but instead almost every episode is just praise after praise, ignoring what would be called out on a Star Trek episode. One blatant example in this episode: Garibaldi being suddenly lucid enough to solve the case and then still so when the doctor mentions just how high his alcohol level is.
There's a detail about Jerry Doyle's performance as Garibaldi that I had no idea about until after his death.
Jerry Doyle himself was a chronic alcoholic throughout his life. He knew exactly where Garibaldis head was at.
good point,guess he kinda felt the demons himself,RIP Mr Doyle.
"You are going to resist, I hope." - Ivanova
I totally missed the significance of the tense music choice in the bar. Great catch!
to start with i love garibaldi and marcus cole there my two favorite characters in B5 and that's saying a lot when you look at the other characters in the setting.
as for the fighter wing you could also say that its a show of ill faith in the babylon project (for anyone that doesn't know that's the program that set up the construction of B1 through B5, there's a bit more too it but that's always the case with any story in Babylon 5) that the people with the purse strings was like ""ok fine you made it to two years i guess we can finally release the funding for you"" because they didnt thing they would make it this far so why waste money on the station.
Well now I want to know what that line was that you would have put in the spoilers area.
I do love how flawed the characters are in this show, especially in Garibaldi. He reminds me a little of Saul Tigh from BSG.
'Chaotic good'...love the DnD references.
Arch, you know there is an alignment chart for B5 characters, rigth?
Garibaldi's cool as he's only 30% as self destructive as The Wire's Det. Jimmy McNulty
Had to be said
after the "good guy is wrongly accused and has to go rogue to prove his innocence" trope is played out why is said good guy always let off the hook completely? sure he did not plant the bomb, in this case, but garibaldi still went rogue, avaded capture and potentially could have prevented the course of justice.
Lore said that this episode did a few things badly, and neglected to point out exactly what they were. I'll go ahead and say one - the actress who plays Garibaldi's childhood frenemy, the presidential security lady? She has NO chemistry with Jerry Doyle, and gives a generally poor performance as this character. She's trying way too hard to seem professional and bossy and cold, and it just comes across incredibly flat and dull and not at all like the wounded, bitter person which the lines describe her as. Between her bad acting and the other aspects of this episode, I literally fell asleep while watching it, and don't care enough to go back and watch it again before I continue moving on through the series.
I would not say that it is episode-destroying, but it is annoying and taking away from the otherwise great episode. Perhaps lack of Chemistry, perhaps it was overacted. Regardless - she seems like a cartoonish evil character.
@@jannegrey I wouldn't say evil, more like bitter and spiteful, though it's a fine line. She's definitely going for the obstructionist bureaucrat archetype, rather than some actual black hat villain, but like I said, very poorly acted either way.
@@EnvisionerWill Yeah I agree. The main difference is that I'm not sure whether it was 100% actress fault or if she received poor guidance from the Director. Because on repeat viewings I tend to skip most of her parts and just look at what others do. I allow her the initial scene, the one where Sinclair rebukes her (but that's for him, not for her) and the last one. When she is on her vendetta.... I guess I did meet one or two people like her in the real life, who were also this cartoonish, but it's a rarity. And this makes the "making up" scene unbelievable. As in - I can't believe she would actually come to her senses that easily - not in the way the character was portrayed.
Thank you for responding. Stay safe and be well.
It really seems that better the work less there is to analyze and ruminate upon, shame.
Can't believe these Babylon 5 videos. I was expecting the same kind of criticism and nitpicking as in the Star Trek vids but instead almost every episode is just praise after praise, ignoring what would be called out on a Star Trek episode. One blatant example in this episode: Garibaldi being suddenly lucid enough to solve the case and then still so when the doctor mentions just how high his alcohol level is.
I can't believe that you said you were done after watching episode 5 yet here you were posting about this episode like a month later, lmao.