Joe Rogan On Everything Wrong With Hollywood And Los Angeles
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This is everywhere now though. Look at the reverence for athletes. I used to work for a Fortune 50 company & saw the CEO of the company on the elevator. You weren't allowed to talk to him or even look in his direction. It's power syndrome. It's not just Hollywood. People with power are pretty much a-holes everywhere.
Damn you couldn’t even look in his direction, what kind of narcissistic shit is that
Digusting, these ceos need a reality check. Cant even look in his direction..smh these guys got ass kissers EVERYWHERE. Disturbing.
My corporate job was the same, you couldn't talk to the top teir guys. Company failed from their incompetence lol.
“Absolute power corrupts absolutely”
Maybe the CEO is just shy? I'm shy AF and don't have much money lol
Everything he is describing applies to corporate culture as well.
Exactly. The whole time, I was thinking "wait... he really believes this phenomenon is different from any corporate job interview, in any area of the country (or world for that matter), for the past several decades?"
On top of that, imagine choosing this particular industry (of acting/entertainment) where you're *constantly* applying for job-after-job...where you know beforehand that each job is *designed* to last a very limited amount of time...where you are forced to move on to the next gig. Um, yes, you tell your potential employers what you know they want to hear. It's not at all exclusive to L.A. or Hollywood.
@@toddmargeson3330 jobs last, acting and fame don't. Hollywood is way more corrosive.
Josh, can't tell if your reply was intended to be a rebuttal of my comment or not, but your first sentence is a reinforcement of my last paragraph, and the underlying point: acting/entertainment jobs don't last (and are that way by design), which is different from "normal" jobs. Yet even with normal, long-lasting career jobs, people (applicants) posture disingenuously to land the job. So of *course* the same is going to happen in a line of work where every job is fleeting by design.
As for your second sentence, that may or may not be true; I have no personal experience in that.
@@joshuatunis6732 well it clearly does for some people
Joe probably hasn't had to interview for a job outside entertainment (or even inside entertainment) for a long time. He probably has forgotten what a corporate job interview is like.
I grew up in LA and have lived here most of my life. I’ve never wanted to get into the entertainment industry, but I have dated actresses and had friends that were actors, and I can say Joe’s take is spot on.
Joe is surrounded by more of that than most people who live in or lived in Los Angeles so his viewpoint is warped. He also seems to want to validate his decision to bolt by constantly dumping on la and california
There are plenty of vagrants taking dumps on La La Land.
@@ubuu7 Who needs a special reason to dump on LA and CA?
@@johndeaux3703 Conservatives. They are so petty and insecure they feel a deep desire and need to tear down supposed bastions of liberalism. CA and places like Los Angeles failing to them is an example of their superior world view and belief.
@@ubuu7 - oh yeah dude, the city that worships the red carpet and have a paparazzi industry? The city that goes overkill with cosmetic surgery?
Calling other people's views warped?
You're pointing out what again???
He needs a fucking lot more than 10 minutes to list everything wrong with Hollywood.
He had to limit his response because Texas ran out of power with their true leadership - I heard one flew to Cancun
@@littlebob1261, haven’t kept up with any news lately, eh? California already having rolling blackouts and it’s not July yet
@@turdferguson8227 so is Texas
Only question is will republican leadership run to Mexico again
@@littlebob1261 You know there are annual blackouts already in California right..
@@SA-hz1rs Cruz is a Senator, not the governor. Do you need education in "Constitutional Republic" meaning, and the difference between Federal, State and local government?
Joe isn’t even sitting on his seat that’s how strong his calves are
Ricky Gervais on everything wrong with Hollywood:
_Ricky Gervais at the Golden Globes 2020 - All of his bits chained_
Ricky... Will forever be a legend after that. Only celebrity Id actually like to meet and shake his hand.
I've never liked a monologue so much. He absolutely roasted those pretentious asses. Savage.
I did a screen writing school over there and hung out with, and still keep in touch with one of the most powerful families in Hollywood. As a long time industry insider, even the most established families in Hollywood are paranoid about the folks they have to deal with every single day.
In what way are they paranoid? Just curious to know as someone that studied theatre in college.
It never ends. You feel like a beginner forever.
Roflmao they have all the power hence Harvey Weinstein being praised publicly for decades by actors and politicians, and they all had heard something over the decades if not outright knew what he did. No wonder they are so messed up
John Cena apologizing to China in Chinese, for referring to Taiwan as a country is another example of someone successful saying whatever they have to say. America is compromising it's morals for a dollar.
It'd true I'm sure the wwe sells a lot in China it's the same reason Hollywood movies randomly have a movie in Hong Kong or some shit because they're pandering to the Chinese viewers
What morals? lmao
America was born compromising it's morals. _Give me liberty, or give me death!_ _And don't forget my slaves!_
Cena did that not just for his money but for the money of everyone in the movie. They would've lost a lot of money if China banned the movie.
What he did was necessary but unfortunate.
@@aadityamurali18 that's like saying slavery was necessary but unfortunate, because it would've cost a lot people money.
As someone from Canada who hates the cold, LA was just really nice to visit and enjoy the weather, have some good food and do some shopping.
Same.
The greatest irony is how Hollywood - a place completely choke-full of arrogant bullies, is now trying to speak on behalf of others about bullying.
Like, most of these stories about actors and directors treating their PAs and interns like garbage is rooted in fact. We’ve got instances of people having coffee or other drinks thrown at them. People being reduced to tears for the smallest offenses. Now suddenly it is those same bullies telling the rest of us to be kind to each other.
Sounds kind of like Trump using the corrupt system and claiming he can change it.
A very interesting and accurate description of the entertainment industry mindset. But as far as describing the second largest city in the U.S., it's worth remembering that the percentage of Los Angeles residents who work in entertainment is approximately 2%.
Exactly. Transplants are the reason for most of the LA stereotypes.
@@joshuagossett9757 and when we think of transplants in LA, they and the entertainment industry, mostly reflect the demographics of the rest of the US.
That's right. LA is way more than some damn comedians or wanna be actors.
LA is more than actors… it’s also models, singers, dancers, influencers. There is a certain “what will you do for me” mentality. But maybe that only exists between the valley down over to west LA. 😂
stupidity breeds in convorsation with others / way of thinking
As a Bartender in LA, I am asked if I want to be an actor on a daily basis. When I tell them, "No, I'm a 5th generation Bartender. This is MY career."
They look at me with both pity and disbelief.
So weird.
Fake people are always bewildered by real people.
@@herbertthewaterrat truer words have never been spoken
I'm kinda jealous of having a career like that. Like a craft.
I’ve had and seen the opposite effect across the U.S. where you’ll receive looks of bewilderment if you want to be an actor or anything artistic haha. So in a way LA is a “safespace” for people with that kind of artistic pursuit but it’s ironic and moronic that people essentially flip the switch and do the same back to people like you, but that’s how people are… very tribal
Same here, I walk around in fly clothes and everyone assumes I’m a rapper. But I’m in sales lol
Saager's tie is the same print as the Subway seating in Berlin 😂
This is pure gold 😂
So you’re saying he looks like Germans sat on him all day.
It definitely looks like a pattern for mass transit seats.
A man of culture
Oh so potential employees kissing their boss butts…never heard of that lol
Yeah but imagine doing that 3 times a day for the rest of your life.
@@AdamEX1 true
@@AdamEX1 People have zero respect for themselves.
It's more the unhealthy behaviour from those in power. Leading to predators going unpunished for decades.
@@whitegoodman7465 Lack of self respect is part of it but Wanting to be hired by a production in order to perform your purpose and the hope of the notoriety isn’t evil alone. The trick that you can only do it big time if you’re cast in a production is the real evil. Imagine if film actors all started casting themselves in their own films that got distribution. It would destroy film studios. The game would be over.
lol Joe Rogan's explanation of the actor auditioning process is very similar to big tech interviews.
I think Marcus Aurelius had a servant remind him all day that "You're just a man. You're just a man."
He also slept on the floor for that very reason.
Batman facts
If you have a servant just for that one task, you are no ordinary man. Mission failed.
@@zestyfg There have been many people in similar situations throughout history, both in government and the private sector who did the exact opposite, surrounding themselves with sycophants and servile people who tell them non-stop how great they are all day long. They surround themselves with "Yes Men" that never contradict them, all day long, so they are never challenged. Not many had the wisdom or insight that Marcus Aurelius had. People like him are few and far between.
At least he tried
GREAT idea to interview him back. Absolutely brilliant! I've never seen him being interviewed. He really likes you guys and it's nice of him to give you such a boost at the beginning of your own venture!
That song Lost in Hollywood by System of a Down is some real shit. This place eats lives.
Yeah man love that band! They speak so much truth in their songs and that is one of them.
You should have never trusted hollywoooood!
and grew up minutes from hwood, in glendale
I was standing on the wall...feeling 10 feet tall
Jack javardy 10 feet tall
Joe Rogan (younger) was a perfect Tony Danza type. All the sitcom casting directors had 'We're looking for a Tony Danza type' in their notes.
I thought the same. Young Tony Danza type with a little more muscles.
"LA the city of broken hearts"
I had lifelong friends move to LA. Art, Music and Hollywood FX industries and they all turned into these vapid, yes men automatons with a quiet, passive aggressive viciousness. It's odd- to be successful there, you have to be a mean-spirited beta or a mean spirited narcissist. I'm glad I didn't drink the LA Kool-Aid when I lived there briefly.
I grew up in Los Angeles and moved after 40 years. I moved to Texas because of the affordability, but Texas has horrible things as well. Everywhere has good and bad things about it, people just want to hear what fits their narrative.
I’m sorry, but no. I’ve lived in Ga, NYC, Kentucky, and LA. LA is absolutely the worst in that no one is real. Or very few at least. Even outside the industry this mentality pervades. NYC is just as liberal, but people will tell you things straight out. It’s not fake. I never felt uneasy in general anywhere in my life until I moved to LA. And it all comes down, seriously, to the disingenuous nature of that town across the board.
Facts!!!
People who are artists, who are called to it, whether they be actors, directors, writers, musicians, comics, etc. -- they're all crazy on some level, beyond normal people, because they have to be. No sane, intelligent person would choose this much misery to go through on a daily basis, against such astronomical odds, to make a living. But I think we can all agree that when art succeeds, it is all worth it. When you see a play or movie that resonates deeply with you, or read a book you greatly enjoy, hear a song you instantly connect with, or hear a joke that makes you fall out of your seat laughing, you appreciate all the suffering they endured for you.
I was once around a lot of comedians and what I found is similar to what you say. Highly intelligent people with major personality issues.
Unless we’re talking about Bob Dylan and a few others who never caved to the bs.
Artists are different, Joe is not talking about that. Joe is talking about the people who are different just for being different or because they think real artists are like that, those people are a huge turn off. Any artist worth his/her salt will never be a puppet to someone else's opinions, and you can easily differentiate between the two.
@@aneeshdubey30 Perfectly stated. Thank you.
Very few people in Hollywood are actual artists, mostly they're just insecure people who need attention.
Joe Rogan is the best interview guest ever. You can literally ask him a single question and he'll just fill an entire show with his answer. And it's a legitimately entertaining and insightful answer.
only 10 minutes to list everything wrong with Hollywood?
There is no way he'll be able to list everything that is wrong with Hollywood and Los Angeles (California) in only 10 minutes and 15 seconds :p
No, you're right, but its just enough time to showcase an example of the closed, out of touch, bubble that one of them lives in...
Agreed. I guarantee he easily could go on for an hour or two with how LA/Hollywood is fucked up and why.
Red hot chili peppers "californication" is a very beautiful slightly abstract derivative of this exact concept. Blinding lights by the weekend also depicts this very well.
RIP Dorothy Stratten - the inspiration for that song.
"Little girls from Sweden Dream of silver screen quotations" Great line.
I honestly think that celebs become a mouth piece for the hollywood agenda. If they don’t say what they’re told, their careers are over. So, I think it extends beyond people just trying to get into show biz. Look at how many celebs change their “viewpoints” once they become famous.
Rogan is truthful here. I met two brothers, who attempted to be actors for about 33 years, back in 2013. They had bit parts for movies without speaking roles, and small dialogue for few commercials, so they said. They still did not make it big back then. They lost their apartment and were homeless at the time. I would have called it quits at the 5 year mark. I was in utter shock, when they said 33 years and were still trying.
That’s crazy. When Joe mentioned that 48 year old actress still tryna make it, that was very sad and disturbing to hear.
@@nas84payne I know it sounds insane, because it actually is, yet it is true.
Edit: The two brothers I met said, they moved to Hollywood when they were 18. They were in their early 50's, at the time I talked them.
It’s not just like that in Hollywood, any area of the arts is like that. There’s so much subjectivity and competition, you can’t afford to offend with an unacceptable opinion.
Honestly these camera angles are a lot better than the ones normally used on the podcast. Even the cameras are clearly better too, the image is so crisp and it actually looks well lit.
I think about Lana Clarkson - the actress who was waiting on her big break - while working at the House of Blues. She thought Phil Spector would be her ticket, but instead she ended up dead. It is a very sad and sinister place - Hollywood.
In casting, auditions, and interviews. The one thing that gets you the job is just talking with the other person. If you've never been to an audition before and you come at it like an interview it's easy
Joe Rogan is a big example of 'being authentic is the Best' 💪
I despise Los Angeles. Always have.
I try so hard to never cross the county line.
Everyone in L.A. is lame.
It offers me nothing!
Hollywood: where you can be anything you want to be as long as it's not your own choice
Haven’t watched or heard a Rogan Podcast in a while but this is insanely spot on 100%.
This is not just Holywood culture. This is what USA exports abroad. I live in Europe and I know dozens of people like this and almost all of them, as a rule, admire US and most of them even want to go live in the US.
"I stopped dating actresses in the 90's" I can totally not relate to that.
Ya well I've dated enough crazy poor woman. Maybe I'll try crazy rich ones lol
Many are M.A.D. - NUTS !
If you dated someone who’s crazy and narcissistic, you’ve dated all of hollywood
Not all actors and actresses are rich, they're not the same as celebrities, most are just working class, trying to make it big.
@@lisazoria2709 my god it was a joke
joe rogan just described what literally getting a job in any other industry is like
I remember my buddies and I once had a conversation about how popularity can have a psychological impact on someone by making/breaking them.
Hollywood is mostly luck. I remember in an interview Dicaprio said it was just being at the right place and right time. It's one of those careers that even if you are amazing, it doesnt mean you are gonna make it.
I've lived in LA my whole life and I love it here
Me too and the current version of LA is a toilet.
It's a beautiful city if you're making 80k+ a year. Judging from your profile photo, your experience may be atypical.
Curious..... are you a progressive or liberal, are you in-tune with the political/social climate there? If so that makes it easier too.
I am born and raise here, LA have two completely sides
@@DeflatingAtheism My parents have never cracked 50k a year and we live comfortably in our apartment
"What does a actor want with a conscious anyway?"... Jiminy says it Pinocchio
The % of actors in LA vs everyone else is infinitesimal. He's extrapolating one nugget and feels that that is the road all people walk?
What a small perspective
I think you’re missing his point.
@@downsouth00 Or you mine
@@Bubbles99718 I understand your point. I agree with you. I still don't think you understood what Joe was trying to say.
He wasn't talking about "everyone", just the ones who are attracted to fame, fortune, and everything else Hollywood represents. It draws in a certain kind of person. Like it or not, these people, regardless of how few they are have a large influence over the country.
@SomedayIWillTravel However, the employees of Kaiser Permanente aren't trying to influence public opinion or push an ideology.
Auditioning for roles is a job interview, and in every interview for every job in every state you say what you think the interviewer wants to hear to get the job. So let's not make it out to be Los Angeles because there is an accountant, construction worker, fast food worker etc in every state saying what they have to say to get the job.
Not if you your just looking for a job. I've interviewed for countless jobs I didn't want. I generally don't add anything to the interview and have rejected offers before. It's the people who are desperate who act like fools.
Hollywood has a broken morality.
Been exposed in files, crts, books, testimonials, documentaries. Plenty of survivors, experts, watchers, dissents, public records exposed such nonsense run amok which persists.
Yeah, I work Hollywood adjacent and trying to get in (not as an actor or anything on screen) but have learned from 2016 and especially 2020 that I should self censor and totally ignore politics on FB because many of them are all in tribal Dem group think.
I deleted my facebook for this very reason.. the point was to network not to get into constant political arguments with people you barely know.
Blue-anon
I love LA. I love the diverse culture and Mexican food.
And the feces, needles, and endless mega homeless encampments!
You can get great Mexican food outside of LA bro lmfao
It's a beautiful city befouled by retarded politics.
@@DeflatingAtheism And urine...
@@jonothandoeser Urine and feces and heroin needles go hand-in-hand with retarded politics. You don't see to much of that stuff in areas with Republican mayors and governors.
You’ve got to love Joe such a genuine guy cuts through the BS tells it like it is heaps of respect for the dude
Rogan needs this camera setup 4real
But most of the actors that make it are really not that confident or arrogant. They're insecure because they know it could be over any time. It's a fickle business: hot today, gone tomorrow.
Ha! Insecurity makes people compensate with more arrogance than anything else!
Mira Sorvino won an academy award for best actress and never had a lead role in a major Hollywood production again. Well, we all know what happened!
@@DeflatingAtheism what’s her story?
@@rs7458 She rejected the advances of a certain guy named Harvey.
@@DeflatingAtheism good for her
Can confirm. One of my buddies from college, went to Hollywood and he just worked on the technical end (he did lighting) found it so toxic, he left after about three years. Even though he was making good money, he hated the environment. I remember him telling me he loved serving coffee in Central WA so much more than living for one second in LA and working in that environment.
Joe Turning into a soccer mom. That TRT not working anymore.
I felt like they were talking about the lifestyle of Patrick Bateman from the movie American Psycho.
The first 10 minutes of the movie to be specefic
Which to a person like me would quickly turn into that movie "the way of the gun" the opening scene specifically
I'm glad he changed his set design; it looked like a low budget sci fi set before
Apart form that great discussion: Saagar, I love your suit and tie!
This explains so much about Hollywood. Insightful question, as well as answer.
Saagar is the type of guy that only owns expensive suits and gym clothes Bc he hasn’t taken the time or money to buy casual clothes that look good
Guys who only wear suits always shit the bed on casual Friday.
Can we use these cameras for the podcast?
I worked over twenty years on network TV and got sick of D-bags who failed upward. The politics in the industry suck.
It is a little cringy Saagar trying to cuss along with Joe, doesn't flow. Like a little kid hanging out with the big kids.
ur a kid judging a grown man talking to a grown man
That’s racist
DONT judge people on assumptions... Saagar looks just as big as Joe tbh
The dynamic of this interview was cringe.
Where there guests in the studio??
When they mentioned the "Imagine" video I was hyped for Joe's reaction because thats how I reacted....and I'm black haha
I like the giant downtown open air dining market and the Anthony Quinn mural (and the apt. where Fitzgerald died).
I find it pretty hilarious Joe is talking about others bending to whatever way the wind is blowing. He's pretty guilty of this himself.
No real humility or real love in Hollywood, it seems.
2:44 Joe talking about himself in his studio.
Imagine, if you walked not needing the role and walked in confident, it would probably separate you from the rest and raise your odds considerably
People definitely bend in Hollywood, and are molded, but I would say people also bend to Joe Rogan, too-like Joe said, not all people, but people do, for sure. Right there on air. Joe Rogan also has an incredible amount of power. He can elevate a career. In fact, I'm going to leave my email here, just in case...btw, the red carpet is the weirdest thing.
Brilliant and true. I came to Hollywood wanting to be Ingmar Bergman and I got a few good movies made (and some not--so good ones because that's what the financiers wanted me to do), but then I burned out in part because of the mentality Joe describes so accurately. There is also this thing about bowing down before the writer or actor or director who is the group think Flavor Of The Month, and if you don not echo that adulation by rote you're considered "an outsider," or someone who "doesn't below." So now I write novels and am much happier, although (I confess) I still date actresses....
Is thz a plot for ur novel
What would you actually expect from a group of people who've made a career , an identity even, of being a professional liar (ie: actor)?
Jeez its been ages since I listened to Joe Rogan! I used to see his podcast all the time very rarely now.
Los Angeles? Sounds like he's describing the modern world in 2021.
One thing he didn't mention, which is hard to verbalize...Is the way LA / LA County is laid out.
There is something about the way it's sits inbetween valleys where the horizon is limited.
It does something mentaly to go long periods of time without seeing a wide horizon or the sky due to mountains. Other cities have mountains but the way LA is it creats this "What else is out there" mentality, this "If I just do X I can have it all", "The grass is greener mentality". Plus, everyone you meet is "working on some big thing"...Everyone is hustling, most people are so superficial due to the previous, it just creates this culture of disingenuine sincere people, who think they're doing good.
Not really.. social media makes you think everyone acts like this, they don’t, trust me, I’ve lived in numerous countries, most people as individuals are normal, with that being said I’ve never been to the USA
@@Mikamichae ???? How are you disagreeing and never been to the States let alone don't live in LA?
@@The3rdGunman here’s a guess, USA and la do not represent the rest of the world?
@@Mikamichae Did you read the title of the video? Did you even listen to what Joe said....He's not talking about the world. He's talking about LOS ANGELES....HOLLYWOOD...PERIOD
anyone know how to watch the podcast on Spotify? I only lets me listen bu can't WATCH the videos!!!
Even those who have "arrived" know how quickly the phone can stop ringing if you don't play along.
I have NEVER wanted to be an entertainer of any kind, NEVER wanted to be an actor. NEVER understood that desire.
Interesting to get an insider’s honest perspective. Appreciated this segment.
Rule #1- NEVER trust a guy in a sparkly suit.
I rather be a fake somebody than a real nobody.
One of the reasons Rogan is popular. He’s not like those Hollywood weirdos.
I gotta say Joe Rogan is a real one.
Spot on again.
YOU TELL 'EM JOE!
Did you guys know the the average adult has 5-20 pounds of toxic poop in their body any any moment?
Not me I have explosive diarrhea
That is just a testament to the resilience of the human body. Even while carrying 5-20 pounds of toxic poop humans can't be kept down! 💥😯💯
Just drink coffee dude.... It will come out soon enough...
Lol
@@royfr8136 you're not wrong 🤣
Nail on the head
I agree with joe about Hollywood
celebrities are taken back when people don't think all their opinions are great because in their circle everyone thinks what they say is great
Joe's view on Hollywood made me think about David Lynch's Mulholland drive. Feels like Joe summed up the movie.
Saw that Epstein vid of you guys. Now I know what they kicked you out. It was an amazing piece of journalism. Amazing.
doing auditions is very stressful, dealing with rejections is awful -- acting is not a career to embrace without lots of prep. and courage
Things are even worse than this...
How can he answer this question in only ten minutes?
Very well said!!!
Great question and brilliant answers. THIS answer is genius of Rogan right here. He absolutely nails this.
Wow that lady was so ready to hate people in Hollywood
To be honest it felt like two teenagers interviewed a dad.
it was still good though...and understandable why it would be that dynamic
honest truth is joe rogan has become the king of diy media. a realm they just dove into based on his advice and it worked. hes daddy lol
King? He's just Howard Stern for the social media generation.
joe is so lovable, thank yoou
Awesome video! It is great to get insight from someone who has been immersed in the culture. It explains a lot. By the way it also happens in NYC but not as ubiquitous.
Money makes morally perfect individuals corrupt. You can pretend for hours to be someone else for moolah. And it works cos money is power.
apparently not so perfect, thus blowing your theory.