Sephiroth really tried to take Glenn's words to heart. He really tried to have compassion for others. And he really did try to save Rosen, desperately pleading for Glenn and the others' sake. But in the end, because of Shinra, Rosen had no reason to continue living any longer, and Sephiroth had to make a choice.
So as of Crisis Core Jenova had begun influencing him from a distance. Poor Sephiroth. Deep down he’s a kind boy who was always forced to crush his kindness. I wonder what Glenn means when he says he can’t tell the infantrymen to evacuate? Is he perhaps already dead? Also looks like next Chapter’s going to show us even more reasons to hate Hojo. And probably answer how Sephiroth, Angeal and Genesis become friends. You know what that means? Even more Loveless. 😂
So they are rewrighting the canon? It was stated that in original Final Fantasy 7 Jenova tried to control Sephiroth but his will was so strong that he took over and they switched places. Looks like in the remakes the story would be different.
I feel like glenn didn't tell the infantrymen, because maybe they were already defected from shinra, according to tseng in rebirth; and that's why he tells sephi to save them because he's still part of shinra.
thank you again!!! and AH!!! I am so shocked by how deeply Sephiroth feels empathy... it's hurting me, my sweet sweet boy. I never thought I would type that about Sephiroth, but here we are... my sweet, sweet boy...
Okay woah wasn’t quite expecting that cool ass cutscene at the end. Every time I think I have some ffvii stuff figured out, I’m left with more questions than answers lmao thanks for posting this!! I’m still at the end of chapter 6, got a lot of grinding to do
So crazy- Sephy is ruminating about this thing none of us (could) have known about- at the Edge of Creation. To me, that adds depth to him- there must be a change in him- he probably found the part of himself, scattered in the Lifestream, and knows the truth of his past…and probably his life unfolding as he way it did… Redemption arc is unlikely, I love how they linked Ever Crisis to the current or semi-current version of himself. I wonder what his motives are, and why.
If I had a nickel for every time Sephiroth stabbed to death a person last of their people to join their ancestors, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.
Sephiroth at edge of creation: I spent my future self just hunting down a chocobo hair kid with mental issues...What happened to me to reach that stage mr. Universe Mr. Universe: I just look pretty don't look at me for answers.
It is unclear currently, imo. He is definitely ruminating at the Edge of Creation. As for when exactly this takes place- before Cloud arrives in Remake pt. 1, or if he finds himself there now, more often. Either way, it’s super sick. Imo, that cutscene added some depth to his character, and defined it. It’s mind-blowing that he is calmly remember these memories though; I wonder how far Sephiroth, who seems to remembers himself pre-Niebelhiem events, and possibly knows his whole truth- his entire truth; “. . .Seven seconds til’ the end.::Time enough for you perhaps: But will you do with it? Let’s see-“ He should and seems to be wondering the same thing himself. So good. Just my two cents ❤
It’s possible that this happened before the main events of FFVII, probably before Crisis Core. In the scene, he looked slightly confused from what he was seeing, and the music hinted that it was not only the Edge of Creation, but that he was sent there by Jenova, since the motif plays in the background.
A 15 a boy his age forced him to kill him because he just wanted to be with his ancestors. Please don't try to tell me that Sephiroth is just a generic doomsday villain. Because I will go to my grave believing he was meant to be so much more than that.
Well. After nibelheim, he absolutely became an actual genetic villain o.0 Like, that's the whole point. So in a way, correct. He's not *just* anything.
No, I’m pretty sure the Sephiroth at the Edge of Creation is the sane Sephiroth. If you use JP dub, that Sephiroth uses Ore, hinting it is the Sephiroth who was good not the corrupted one. This basically confirms it that the good Sephiroth still exists. I think my theory is correct that this Sephiroth and the Aerith from Remake is working together for sure. The Corrupted Sephiroth is parading everywhere manipulated by Jenova. The part of Sephiroth who is still sane is in the Edge of creation, remember how Aerith led fine tuned the black porta which basically led Cloud and party there.
@@gemlynbotones3028In Rebirth though Sephiroth uses “Ore” a lot as well - in Japanese, the other pronoun he uses “watashi” is a more neutral, formal pronoun, and “ore” while more masculine, also tends to be used in more familiar contexts, and Sephiroth tends to use “ore” around Cloud more, so I’m not sure if it’s supposed to be that he’s more of his “sane” self or if he’s just switching to more casual speech around Cloud. It’s my understanding that in Japanese society people will use different pronouns in different contexts. To be clear - I’m not saying you’re wrong! I just also think the pronoun thing MIGHT not be as clear cut as that.
@@samoyed7895 From what I recall of what the Ultimania said, the version of Sephiroth that appears at the Edge of Creation in Remake uses the same speech and mannerisms he had before he went mad during the Nibelheim incident.
@@SuzakuXI think thats what it said too! I just also know that in Rebirth japanese dub Sephiroth uses “ore” whenever he speaks to cloud and “watashi” whenever he speaks to the entire group. Could very well be different Sephiroths.
Could be…or, it’s one primary Sephiroth who now has the whole truth about his life. Perhaps a portion of him was trapped in the belly of Remake pt. 1’s massive planet-fate-WEAPON or something. Guess we’ll find out when the time is right. I want to believe Sephiroth we see currently is likely knowledgable about all aspects of himself- it’s just cool to show us him remembering some early, pivotal moments in his development. ❤
They really needed to make First Soldier less grindy especially since it's new lore and relates to Freaking Re series....but thanks for uploading cause I'll probably reach this part in ever crisis when the 3rd game comes out 😂😂
According to Glenn's words in Rebirth (this being a corpse, a puppet) he tells Rufus "From behind, like in the old days" Rufus was the one who killed Glenn, Probably in an alliance with Avalanche or similar.
Looks like Sephiroth is getting rebooted as a shounen protagonist. I like it though. The chronology seems a bit off now. Rhadore happens in 1992, Genesis desertion in Crisis Core happened in 2000. But now, it's 0002(?; since the first mission in chapter 8 of TFS is called "Ten Years Later"). This is going to affect the rest of the events as well. The only reason why Zack meets Aerith is because he gets pushed by Angeal off the platform with a spell and falls into the church. Are Aerith and Zack going to meet at 18|19 now? What about Nibelheim? There was supposed to be a 5 year break between it and the main game. But I guess Nojima or whoever's writing this mess of a timeline could always claim that it's alternative universe or something.
Since at the end of the CGI we see sephiroth looking at the edge of creation, just like you mentioned what if this first soldier story are just one of the possibilities/dream/world that was explained in Rebirth?
@@wsinnoz well, it's possible, i guess. After all, Remake is its own world as well, if I get it right. That being said, this multiple timelines/worlds/every world is a dream or memories/etc. concept is not really explained and there is only a bunch of theories for now, so who knows. EC with its events(which probably can hardly be called canon) certainly portrays lifestream as a multiverse of possibilities.
I'll tell you what would be REALLY cool? If I could do this myself but I'm stuck at the ridiculous boss at the end of chapter 7. I'm at 215,000. Cloud has Sanctuary and Matt has his Needle Jab and both abilities raise MDEF by 2 points for the whole party. Each character has between 7000-9500 HP with Aerith using Curaga-All keeping them full. With max MDEF (3 points) the thing still one-shots me at full health when I get it to half health. It's nonsense. It's almost like there's a time limit before it just kills you outright. Edit: DID IT! I'll type out my winning strategy
Oh man if only Ben Diskin could do some of the lines in the finale as a fan dub like how Ray Chase was the Master of Masters in the Kingdom Hearts Union Xross finale. This would feel so impactful This feels like the End of Disc 1 if this was made for PS1 lol
Kakoki!! My poor baby!! Ugh..Although CLEARLY in the sequel as why Sephiroth has become truly wicked is BECAUSE of his contact with Jenova. Why everyone keeps complaining that he is truly evil incarnate is beyond me. He is being used to every degree; from Shinra, and esp. Jenova. The true villain as I realized as a kid in playing this game in 1997 is HOJO obviously. Hojo and his team of scientist are the cause and of course Lucrecia. Sephiroth I feel though, ironically is Shinra's karma of punishment for keeping a blind eye on Hojo and enabling their Science dept, just to fill their quota and pockets. Capitalism at its finest, lol. There were clearly more infants injected with Jenova cells that died or deemed failures. Absolutely, inhumane and unethical in every demonic way, why I absolutely hate Lucrecia of course. Woman to woman, WTF?? And she's freaking still ALIVE to be so bad about it in irony's case ...-.- I feel sorry for me Sephy-sama in every way. Interesting on how they clarify Jenova's abilities as well when I played Rebirth and how keen it is to manipulating people, disusing itself as the dead as Sephiroth has gained those abilities. Wish there were more background story on Jenova as to its origin and I would think there are more alien organisms out there. Important moment here and maybe an actual breakthrouhg in a way of respite, Sphiroth is actually REFLECTING here? Clearly the last scene is from Remake. I'm soo thrilled and pumped and emotional because he may actually have something left of a human heart and not all the way taken by Jenova's will and influence over him! Tetsuya Nomura-san what are you feeling for your Sephy?? 🤔 🥲🥲🥲 I hope some part of his soul can house a spark of humanity left. The world did him soooo WRONG as he has done to others.🤧
Thats Angeal’s voice at the end, assuming hes telling sephiroth not to be deceived by the enemy no matter who it is. I can’t tell who the female voice is though.
I'm very scared to play SE gachas. They release them and some of them EoS not even a year later lmao Hope this one stays alive, but I feel like the announcement of First Soldier Episode 2 is promising
Yo I didn’t get that extra scene after the edge of the creation scene how did you get this version ? Is it something to do with how you do against the boss ? A bonus for not letting seph get to 1hp or something? Seems like a mini bonus trailer for whats to come as a reward ?
Nope.Frim the OG we know that he was an exemplary person,not Just a war Hero but a fine person under a human point of view.This Is Just the development of what basically was already told.
Sephiroth really tried to take Glenn's words to heart. He really tried to have compassion for others. And he really did try to save Rosen, desperately pleading for Glenn and the others' sake. But in the end, because of Shinra, Rosen had no reason to continue living any longer, and Sephiroth had to make a choice.
They did nottttt put in a 4 minute gorgeous CGI cutscene into this grindfest
They did 💀💀
So as of Crisis Core Jenova had begun influencing him from a distance. Poor Sephiroth. Deep down he’s a kind boy who was always forced to crush his kindness. I wonder what Glenn means when he says he can’t tell the infantrymen to evacuate? Is he perhaps already dead?
Also looks like next Chapter’s going to show us even more reasons to hate Hojo. And probably answer how Sephiroth, Angeal and Genesis become friends. You know what that means? Even more Loveless. 😂
This is likely why they've held back more on Crisis Core chapter releases.
So they are rewrighting the canon? It was stated that in original Final Fantasy 7 Jenova tried to control Sephiroth but his will was so strong that he took over and they switched places. Looks like in the remakes the story would be different.
I feel like glenn didn't tell the infantrymen, because maybe they were already defected from shinra, according to tseng in rebirth; and that's why he tells sephi to save them because he's still part of shinra.
"Nice to meet you I'm Seph-"
"Infinite in mystery is the gift of the goddess."
😊
thank you again!!! and AH!!! I am so shocked by how deeply Sephiroth feels empathy... it's hurting me, my sweet sweet boy. I never thought I would type that about Sephiroth, but here we are... my sweet, sweet boy...
Well, if you said that Sephiroth would be stopped by a dog coming between them in the first cutscene, I would not have called that.
Never expected Sephiroth to be kind to animals too
He fears John Wick 😁
He was always pure hearted it's just Jenova influence imprisoned his will.
You’d realised this teenager Sephiroth is truly a pure hearted soul. I really feel sorry that he was born to Lucrecia and Hojo.
@@alimichalkan8046 Lucrecia regretted never hold him and the pain Vincent suffered. I feel that kindness of his was inherited from her.
@@blackraven3436 I agree.
Okay woah wasn’t quite expecting that cool ass cutscene at the end. Every time I think I have some ffvii stuff figured out, I’m left with more questions than answers lmao thanks for posting this!! I’m still at the end of chapter 6, got a lot of grinding to do
Big same…the universe just keeps expanding awesomely.
ANGEAL who else saw the buster sword?
That was a young Angeal. Omg.
So crazy- Sephy is ruminating about this thing none of us (could) have known about- at the Edge of Creation.
To me, that adds depth to him- there must be a change in him- he probably found the part of himself, scattered in the Lifestream, and knows the truth of his past…and probably his life unfolding as he way it did…
Redemption arc is unlikely, I love how they linked Ever Crisis to the current or semi-current version of himself.
I wonder what his motives are, and why.
im sad none of this was in Rebirth, so many people will never experience this part of Seph's story
We'll see Something of this,and more of this in the third part
@@federicamacchia1656Hopefully.
If I had a nickel for every time Sephiroth stabbed to death a person last of their people to join their ancestors, I'd have two nickels.
Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.
Why he do this 😂
Sephiroth at edge of creation: I spent my future self just hunting down a chocobo hair kid with mental issues...What happened to me to reach that stage mr. Universe
Mr. Universe: I just look pretty don't look at me for answers.
Wait that scene with Sephiroth at the edge of creation, that's just after the final fight in Remake and before Cloud got there right ?
dude, I was so shocked omg why is no one else talking about this?!?!?
It is unclear currently, imo. He is definitely ruminating at the Edge of Creation. As for when exactly this takes place- before Cloud arrives in Remake pt. 1, or if he finds himself there now, more often.
Either way, it’s super sick. Imo, that cutscene added some depth to his character, and defined it.
It’s mind-blowing that he is calmly remember these memories though; I wonder how far Sephiroth, who seems to remembers himself pre-Niebelhiem events, and possibly knows his whole truth- his entire truth; “. . .Seven seconds til’ the end.::Time enough for you perhaps: But will you do with it? Let’s see-“
He should and seems to be wondering the same thing himself. So good. Just my two cents ❤
Let's remember that FS is canon in the Original FF7 and the Remake
It’s possible that this happened before the main events of FFVII, probably before Crisis Core. In the scene, he looked slightly confused from what he was seeing, and the music hinted that it was not only the Edge of Creation, but that he was sent there by Jenova, since the motif plays in the background.
So heartbreaking... thank you for the speedy upload!!🫡
A 15 a boy his age forced him to kill him because he just wanted to be with his ancestors.
Please don't try to tell me that Sephiroth is just a generic doomsday villain. Because I will go to my grave believing he was meant to be so much more than that.
The antagonist Is Just the Hero on the other front.Still a Hero.....
Well. After nibelheim, he absolutely became an actual genetic villain o.0
Like, that's the whole point.
So in a way, correct. He's not *just* anything.
If you think he is generic you havent been paying attention
If someone kills that dog then we’ll witness the Origin Story of Soldier J Wick
Even tho I’ve been playing Ever Crisis since release I gotta admit. Such a missed opportunity to make this story a dlc for FF Rebirth…
Thank you for uploading this.
12:21 young Angeal
So in Edge of Creation, the Sephiroth who has gone insane actually remembers his past?
No, I’m pretty sure the Sephiroth at the Edge of Creation is the sane Sephiroth. If you use JP dub, that Sephiroth uses Ore, hinting it is the Sephiroth who was good not the corrupted one.
This basically confirms it that the good Sephiroth still exists. I think my theory is correct that this Sephiroth and the Aerith from Remake is working together for sure. The Corrupted Sephiroth is parading everywhere manipulated by Jenova.
The part of Sephiroth who is still sane is in the Edge of creation, remember how Aerith led fine tuned the black porta which basically led Cloud and party there.
@@gemlynbotones3028In Rebirth though Sephiroth uses “Ore” a lot as well - in Japanese, the other pronoun he uses “watashi” is a more neutral, formal pronoun, and “ore” while more masculine, also tends to be used in more familiar contexts, and Sephiroth tends to use “ore” around Cloud more, so I’m not sure if it’s supposed to be that he’s more of his “sane” self or if he’s just switching to more casual speech around Cloud. It’s my understanding that in Japanese society people will use different pronouns in different contexts.
To be clear - I’m not saying you’re wrong! I just also think the pronoun thing MIGHT not be as clear cut as that.
@@samoyed7895 From what I recall of what the Ultimania said, the version of Sephiroth that appears at the Edge of Creation in Remake uses the same speech and mannerisms he had before he went mad during the Nibelheim incident.
@@SuzakuXI think thats what it said too! I just also know that in Rebirth japanese dub Sephiroth uses “ore” whenever he speaks to cloud and “watashi” whenever he speaks to the entire group. Could very well be different Sephiroths.
Could be…or, it’s one primary Sephiroth who now has the whole truth about his life. Perhaps a portion of him was trapped in the belly of Remake pt. 1’s massive planet-fate-WEAPON or something.
Guess we’ll find out when the time is right. I want to believe Sephiroth we see currently is likely knowledgable about all aspects of himself- it’s just cool to show us him remembering some early, pivotal moments in his development. ❤
They really needed to make First Soldier less grindy especially since it's new lore and relates to Freaking Re series....but thanks for uploading cause I'll probably reach this part in ever crisis when the 3rd game comes out 😂😂
Imo, all of this should have been in Rebirth.
I would not be surprised if Glenn/Lucia/Matt deaths are part of the reason why Sephiroth went insane.
We just have to wait then. Cuz we definitely have Glenn in FF7 Rebirth. Don't know about Matt and Lucia though....
@@93BossRoss not yet. I just bought the game 2 days ago! Been fun with it too
@@lifendi5937Matt and Lucia were mentioned in Rebirth and it’s implied that they’re alive
@@cosmiccomet_2705 I wonder what their significance in the grand scheme of things going to be like
According to Glenn's words in Rebirth (this being a corpse, a puppet) he tells Rufus "From behind, like in the old days" Rufus was the one who killed Glenn, Probably in an alliance with Avalanche or similar.
Sephiroth is literally the lady killer...in any and all timelines
The edge of creation
Man thank you so much! The game it's not actually that bad, but the gacha stuff ruins It completely.
Looks like Sephiroth is getting rebooted as a shounen protagonist. I like it though.
The chronology seems a bit off now.
Rhadore happens in 1992, Genesis desertion in Crisis Core happened in 2000. But now, it's 0002(?; since the first mission in chapter 8 of TFS is called "Ten Years Later"). This is going to affect the rest of the events as well. The only reason why Zack meets Aerith is because he gets pushed by Angeal off the platform with a spell and falls into the church. Are Aerith and Zack going to meet at 18|19 now? What about Nibelheim? There was supposed to be a 5 year break between it and the main game. But I guess Nojima or whoever's writing this mess of a timeline could always claim that it's alternative universe or something.
Since at the end of the CGI we see sephiroth looking at the edge of creation, just like you mentioned what if this first soldier story are just one of the possibilities/dream/world that was explained in Rebirth?
Its canon, they show a poster of OG stamp in the helicopter
@@MrDanMification Specifically, this means the TFS story is taking place in the Remake continuity.
Do we actually get an exact date for TFS Episode 1, or is it just a general "30 years ago" kind of thing? I can't recall.
@@wsinnoz well, it's possible, i guess. After all, Remake is its own world as well, if I get it right.
That being said, this multiple timelines/worlds/every world is a dream or memories/etc. concept is not really explained and there is only a bunch of theories for now, so who knows. EC with its events(which probably can hardly be called canon) certainly portrays lifestream as a multiverse of possibilities.
I'll tell you what would be REALLY cool? If I could do this myself but I'm stuck at the ridiculous boss at the end of chapter 7.
I'm at 215,000. Cloud has Sanctuary and Matt has his Needle Jab and both abilities raise MDEF by 2 points for the whole party. Each character has between 7000-9500 HP with Aerith using Curaga-All keeping them full. With max MDEF (3 points) the thing still one-shots me at full health when I get it to half health. It's nonsense. It's almost like there's a time limit before it just kills you outright.
Edit: DID IT! I'll type out my winning strategy
The chapter 6 and 7 boss is stupid lmao
So was that sephiroth standing at the edge of creation? Will they be connecting ever crisis story to remake trilogy? Omg so many questions
Imma need that Press Officer to cough up that pic!!!!! 🤤 JEZOZ
Oh man if only Ben Diskin could do some of the lines in the finale as a fan dub like how Ray Chase was the Master of Masters in the Kingdom Hearts Union Xross finale. This would feel so impactful
This feels like the End of Disc 1 if this was made for PS1 lol
Kakoki!! My poor baby!! Ugh..Although CLEARLY in the sequel as why Sephiroth has become truly wicked is BECAUSE of his contact with Jenova.
Why everyone keeps complaining that he is truly evil incarnate is beyond me. He is being used to every degree; from Shinra, and esp. Jenova.
The true villain as I realized as a kid in playing this game in 1997 is HOJO obviously. Hojo and his team of scientist are the cause and of course Lucrecia.
Sephiroth I feel though, ironically is Shinra's karma of punishment for keeping a blind eye on Hojo and enabling their Science dept, just to fill their quota and pockets. Capitalism at its finest, lol.
There were clearly more infants injected with Jenova cells that died or deemed failures.
Absolutely, inhumane and unethical in every demonic way, why I absolutely hate Lucrecia of course.
Woman to woman, WTF?? And she's freaking still ALIVE to be so bad about it in irony's case ...-.-
I feel sorry for me Sephy-sama in every way.
Interesting on how they clarify Jenova's abilities as well when I played Rebirth and how keen it is to manipulating people, disusing itself as the dead as Sephiroth has gained those abilities.
Wish there were more background story on Jenova as to its origin and I would think there are more alien organisms out there.
Important moment here and maybe an actual breakthrouhg in a way of respite, Sphiroth is actually REFLECTING here? Clearly the last scene is from Remake. I'm soo thrilled and pumped and emotional because he may actually have something left of a human heart and not all the way taken by Jenova's will and influence over him! Tetsuya Nomura-san what are you feeling for your Sephy?? 🤔
🥲🥲🥲 I hope some part of his soul can house a spark of humanity left. The world did him soooo WRONG as he has done to others.🤧
Well, WELL said 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thats Angeal’s voice at the end, assuming hes telling sephiroth not to be deceived by the enemy no matter who it is. I can’t tell who the female voice is though.
oh I didn't notice that til now. Nice
I no longer know what we're meant to think of Sephiroth
Ok now I can definitely see a fully playable Sephiroth in the future.
For this game at least....
I love you dude, since they announced the EoS of NieR Reincarnation I dropped this game so is good to have somewhere to keep up with the story
I'm very scared to play SE gachas. They release them and some of them EoS not even a year later lmao
Hope this one stays alive, but I feel like the announcement of First Soldier Episode 2 is promising
Yo I didn’t get that extra scene after the edge of the creation scene how did you get this version ? Is it something to do with how you do against the boss ? A bonus for not letting seph get to 1hp or something? Seems like a mini bonus trailer for whats to come as a reward ?
Is the camera man at the end the fucking Hollander?????
It's probably the black cape that drops the camera in the beginning.
Damn im sad now 😞
Is Adult Sephiroth a regular party member after completing the chapter? Or is he limited to this story mode only
Limited :/
@@FazFaz I always wanted to play as adult Sephiroth. Wonder when they will add the Turks member and Genesis - Angeal.
@@lifendi5937 Turkus will be added as playable characters in the "Before Crisis" campaign
I can see Good Sephiroth (EoC) being a party member in the final dungeon.
Is adult sephiroth playable in other content?
3:54 😮
Is Adult Sephiroth playable now or is it only for this chapter?
only as a guest in this chapter :/
Does this happen during crisis core?
Nope, it's still before crisis core
Yes it's
This is Sephiroth in Fort Tamblin calling Genesis after he learned that he defected, so yeah it’s during Crisis Core
@@seanlambier7719 exactly genesis was MIA and same time Sep became the Hero too
Well, at least Glenn apologized about the necklace.
I wish he somehow found it and gave it back though.
So no English dub ?
If they didn't do it in the previous chapters, they sadly won't do it now. I guess it's being done by a different companY? Idk how Square operates.
There's hardly any talking in this game, so for budget reasons, it's only in Japanese.
Watch they will make seph the good guy to redeem himself in part 3 rofl😂
Nope.Frim the OG we know that he was an exemplary person,not Just a war Hero but a fine person under a human point of view.This Is Just the development of what basically was already told.