Gone In 40 Seconds! EV Home Chargers Sliced & Stolen In The Night
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- Episode 382: Join Francie and Kelly, who had his at home EV charger sliced and stolen in under 40 seconds right from his front door. Kelly caught it all on camera and they discuss how many chargers are vandalized and stolen, what you can do to prevent it, and more!
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Years ago, when I worked at an electronics recycling company, the county required scrap yards to only accept copper from verified sources in an effort to reduce construction site theft. Scrap yards could be fined or shut down for accepting stolen material, so they were careful. Something like that could help.
They could just sell the whole charger man. Make $200 to $400 bucks for it.
@@ultrastoat3298that will get them caught
@@ultrastoat3298 how can they sell the whole charger if all they did was cut off the cable?
They've done this in my state, yet copper is still stolen. It just means the theives get a lower price for the copper via their fence guy.
As for motivation, I wonder about the political polarization that is happening where certain groups of people are seen as the enemy rather than our neighbors.
In some cases maybe - in this case (and most cases) it's an easy copper grab for crooks.
re: "As for motivation, I wonder about the political polarization that is happening..." exactly, as i stated previously you WONDER CORRECTLY. not to say Copper Theft isn't happening (it is indeed very similar to theft of Catalytic Converters for the Platinum/Iridium metal contained inside) but a reason many keep "conspicuously pivoting" towards the excuse of Copper Theft is because they just don't want to face up to the bitter/harsh reality that the reason this VANDALISM and CRIMINAL TRESPASS is occurring is because there's a whole group of people that simply DON'T LIKE YOU and your EV.
there has been a lot of vandalism of EV stations in rural Colorado, Wyoming, and Utah by people who don't like EVs from a political stance.
@@phillyphil1513 In that case, I may be opposite in temperament to most people. To gravitate toward thinking it's political is, for me, something I feel is a temptation I need to resist, rather than an unpleasant thing to be faced. If the political explanation pans out, I actually find that vindicating.
Actually, I've long had an evil eye on anarcho-primitivist types, but now we have a more diverse zoology available. There are people who hate "green" stuff, meaning solar panels, EVs, and the like. And then there's Elon, who gets vilified by the right AND the left, for different reasons, and a bunch of them. Interesting times.
@@ronaldgarrison8478 re: "To gravitate toward thinking it's political is, for me, something I feel is a temptation I need to resist". bingo, now wake up Ronnie G... THE MATRIX HAS YOU...
re: "If the political explanation pans out, I actually find that vindicating." well it DOES pan out, however anytime "unresolved" Cognitive Dissonance BLOCKS one from walking down that path (and doing the hard work) necessary to even GET to a point where it could "pan out"...? logic dictates they'll likely NEVER come this realization, as they will be relying on "luck", "chance", "good fortune" and taking the "passive approaches" (as you elude to) is simply NOT how something as DELIBERATE and INTENTIONAL as Politics works...
no, in the arena of Political Science you must match LIKE FOR LIKE.
This makes me angry. More than watching those Tesla sentry videos when people key or dent them. What's wrong with people?
re: "This makes me angry. More than watching those Tesla sentry videos..." well they should make you angry for as i've been saying for the past few years since Sentry Mode was invented (so well before the collapse of society and the arrival of a Global Pandemic) is that the only thing those Tesla Cameras do is give one a FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY. yeah, bullsh!t cameras are NOT a "deterrent" for crime any more than they are a "solution" for a properly functioning FSD.
They probably think that “If he’s wealthy enough to have an EV, then he can afford to replace the cables”.
I had a guy rubbing his jeans covered but on the side of my 2024 Model Y. This was after he swung his door and hit the driver's side rear wheel trim. It blows my mind that people intentionally damage Teslas while knowing there are 7 cameras watching the car at any given moment.
What's wrong with people? Some of them are just no damn good; creeps, trash, assholes, worthless, sub-human, amoral. That's the reality of it.
It was big oil
This is such a depressing story to listen to, I feel so sorry for you Kelly.
Related to the lights topic, I recently got a ChargePoint Home Flex which does have a very visible light on it, however, it is adjustable in the application all the way down to zero intensity, so you can make it stealthy without using black electrical tape. 😊
Also, they make the charging cable user replaceable on this unit, I do not work for ChargePoint nor am I a stockholder I just appreciate the design
Great to know about the flex.
Bring your own cable seems to be the only solution. Either that or we get Mark Rober on the case.
Not really a solution as they’ll just steal the whole cable.
They wouldn't cut a live cable, so there's one shocking solution...
@@Daddo22 that’sc not true. There is a video of someone cutting a live Supercharger cable. A big spark but the guy drove away.
@@ericroe I guess it doesn't work if they have propper equipment...
For level 2, I think it's the only solution. But, for DC fast charging, the cables are too expensive to reasonably expect every driver who might ever use it to buy one.
The shape of the Nissan Leaf is so distinctive, it gives away the location. Tesla's shapes are also very recognizable. I've got a leaf, but the charger is inside the garage.
This is a big problem in Texas. Supercharger cables are being cut and taken on a regular basis. Hopefully law enforcement is working on it.
SC is public, this happened at a private residence. I didn't know the thefts/vandalism were happing at private residences too. Time to set a mouse trap.
Given the anti ev feelings out there, it's a toss up whether they care,
Good job for Optimus
@@thejake8099 re: "SC is public, this happened at a private residence". a residence which itself sits OUT IN PUBLIC and is not "behind the fence" of gated a HOA (not that asshole HOA's would allow you to have a charger or a BEV anyway) or a "walled in" Housing Development like you might see with the homes say...? out in Phoenix or Las Vegas. source: i just flew back to PHL from both these locations in the past 60 days.
re: "This is a big problem in Texas." yup and specifically in CALIFORNIA ref: the Bay Area. so same as the events in Texas i'm also getting these news stories on my phone while sitting here in the Northeast (so what's the matter with everybody else's phones).
The Chevy Bolt will trigger the horn if disconnected
Maybe charger cables should be made of aluminum? It isn't as sleek as copper, but when scaled up to compensate for its reduced current carrying ability (60% of copper), then it works well enough. House wiring using aluminum is perfectly legal and to code with very slight adaptations, like using an anti-corrosion paste at connections.
I think the problem with aluminum is that it makes the cables very hard to handle - especially the already heavy/stiff high current chargers.
I have an idea but since the cops think its fine for them to steal but have a problem with bodies being dropped its not something that should be posted here but someone did it with a nerf and motion activated security cam ..
Sorry to hear that, Kelly. I wonder if the thief just wanted the copper in the cables as it has become expensive material.
It all goes back to: WHO IS ACCEPTING THESE FOR RECYCLE? I raised this issue 20 years ago with catalytic converter thefts.......and Nothing was done. Government refuses to regulate or do checks on recycling scrap yards. They need to do surprise audits the same way the Health dept does surprise audits on restaurants.
Connecticut legislators passed a law, effective July 1, 2022, that prohibits dealers from receiving detached converters and requires detailed paperwork on all sales.
They need the same laws they have for catalytic converters, adding increased penalties and reporting requirements for selling charging cables. Selling the cables may not net much money, but the value of the cable makes the theft a felony.
Almost make the punishment for this a federal offence i do not want to live in the same country as people that think this is a proper way to live this way. Obviously, we have to adapt and protect ourselves from these kind of Jerks.
A neighborhood nearby me recently installed solar powered security cameras at the entryways/exits in plain sight & well marked.
I have to think this has reduced crime as this would enable law enforcement to get a better description of the perpetrators vehicle.
Obviously the best idea is unexpected frequent police visits to metal recyclers and heavy fines or closure for offending companies.
I think the best deterrent would be motion detector light with camera.
$20 back wall walmart
Dude literally had just that and it still got stolen.
@@ultrastoat3298 re: "Dude literally had just that and it still got stolen..." LOL ikr...? does anybody actually pay attention any more...? like to any thing at all...?🤣
re: "I think the best deterrent would be motion detector light with camera." well of course you think that, but as we've just got finished being shown that's the wrong answer. the reality is YOU'VE BEEN DUPED into solving problems "reactionarily" (after the fact) rather than "slowing down in your thinking" so you can take the time to ANALYZE the security event, so you could perhaps MODIFY YOUR CORE BEHAVIOR which might then lead to you solving problems "proactively" or BEFORE THE FACT...
what you think represents a "deterrent" is actually NOT a "deterrent", no, you've simply been SOLD ON THE IDEA (via rhetoric and propaganda from the 80's and 90's) that these things exist as "deterrents". however what the wall calendar says is that it's "future year" 2024, society has REGRESSED Post-Pandemic, so per the Marines famous phrase what you must do is "ADAPT AND OVERCOME".
I could of sworn I saw a system used in certain European countries where a bunch of chargers have removable cables and that you essentially travel w/ a cable at all times that you connect to the charger, then plug into your car.
Just crazy, I would guess the thieves spent almost as much on gasoline as they made from the copper.
This is a major problem and may only be hindered by legislation where a Law is put in place for buyers of scrap metal to purchase the product from certified suppliers i.e. Tesla charging service centres and the like.
Sounds good but similar laws haven't slowed catalytic converter theft.
@@cgmoog yep, a Law is as good as the law enforcers.
It’s bare copper. How would they know it was from Tesla or just scrap wire from your house?
@@mariusmeyer14 re: "yep, a Law is as good as the law enforcers.." "CORRECTAMUNDO...!!!" (best Sam Jackson/Pulp Fiction voice) 'Murica's bullsh!t laws are just "writing on books" and despite the recent Conviction on 34 Counts, the laws ultimately DON'T mean what we've been "taught" that they mean by our High School Textbooks (ref: Trump's 4X Indictments)...
excellent observation, however it DOES beg the question that if you had the wisdom and intelligence to know that (since most people in society and those "baby young to the world" do not know this) why exactly would you even bother offering that as a suggestion, when you already know that doesn't work...? and that's NOT the answer...?
How many ppl are selling that much copper from their houses?
Charger companies need to start branding their cabling with obvious company trademarks all over the cable jacket to make it very clear to recycling centers that these cables are indeed from EV chargers. Most recycling centers will not take cables that come from EV chargers and making it more obvious will discourage more criminal activity
Most of the time they strip all the insulation
@@911_dan2 Yes, but then that'd be evidence for police... "Sir, how come you have your garbage full of charging cable insulation?" I'd put up a bounty for garbage collectors for reporting finding large amounts of it.
There is equipment to strip the cables.
If you get garbage men to go thru bags to id insulation, the criminals will just dump it illegally out of sight
@@911_dan2 Yes, of course. I'm just saying that garbage men should be incentivized to report such findings if they encounter them, not to go out of their way to find it and, of course, criminals won't have problem with dumping stuff out of sight, but they'd have to do so regularly, giving law enforcement chance to set up a camera "trap" on any such dump site they learn about.
Make sure you have a home security camera over your EV charger, crazy times we live in
I would like to see plug in to charger options for home level 2 chargers for home and work. Even 'charge pads' that could be bolted to the ground is a good option. We tend to park in our garage, but we are fortunate.
12:00 you can't unplug Tesla if it's locked so it's a little more dangerous to cut that cable.
EV Rambo!! I subscribed to you channel, Kelly. I am sorry this happened to you.
I'm sorry this happened. Too many comments to see if anyone mentioned that the Tesla style connector locks to the car and cannot be removed if the doors are locked. That's probably why no Teslas were hit.
So they get $20 and you pay $600 +. Maybe have a box of prepared copper scrap sitting under the charger with a sign, "please don't cut my cables, here's $20 of scrap copper ready to go". My charger is in the garage, but I put it there because it was more convenient. I would not have thought that people would be so low as to come to my home. Boy am I wrong!
They would take both the scrap and the cables
@@jamespaul2587 re: "They would take both the scrap and the cables..." ROTFLMAO
$20 vs $600.... now lets discuss airconditioner coils..... they get $20 and it costs you $10,000.
The car manufacturer has to lock the charger to the port when the car is locked. This should help prevent theft. Maybe the charger companies can install a tracker in handle to only power on when it loses power or continuity to the base.
Yes. This already happens in Europe with our Type 2 sockets, which lock the plug at the car end (and at the EVSE end too if it's an untethered unit) while the car is locked/charging/awaiting charge.
its optional in my car, you can turn it off.
They'll just cut both ends of the cable. You'll have a charger on your wall and a J1772 plug in your car and no wire between.
Metal recyclers pay 25 percent the spot price, but stupid thieves don't care even after all the work stripping the plastic.
Probably got the power tool shoplifting from like a Home Depot. In rural areas theft prevention is a planned cost.
OR from a job site... or from some poor electrician's truck.
Both my Emporia and ChargePoint EVSEhave aluminum wiring going to the car from the EVSE’s. I observed this when I pulled them both apart to hardwire them.
Why I put my charger on the back of the house rather than the side next to the driveway. You can still see it plugged into car, but we don’t plug in but 1x/2x week. The rest of the time it is hidden. But this situation has occurred to me.
15:00 Yes, I'm now thinking maybe there needs to be DSM-V entry for being not paranoid ENOUGH.
Yeesh! We've been plagued by thefts of fire hydrants here in So California & the theory is the thieves are after brass.
I guarantee you will not have any more problems if you attach Bolt and Volt to your charger. Bolt and Volt are both Dobermans.
Well, one literally shocking solution to this problem would be to have the disconnecting relay inside the plug and thus for the charging cable to be a live wire at all times, regardless if a vehicle is charging or even plugged in... There could be relays on both ends of the cable, letting you decide whether you want your cable "protected" in this way since you can accidentaly cut the cable by accident.
I hate to say this, but for urban charging locations, it might be necessary to start putting some of the chargers behind gates and fences, and locking the entire site up from 11 PM-6 AM, or when the host business the chargers share the parking lot with closes for the night.
It sucks because it impacts the ability for people traveling late at night to charge their cars, but having to keep replacing cables every month when they get cut just feels economically unsustainable.
I think bring your own cable will help with any public L2 charging. Even if someone cuts the wire the charger will still be available for others to use.
For DCFC it's more challenging. Putting a camera on the charger or at the site might help to deter people or at least capture them in the act and help police with identifying them or a car they drove up in. I'm also hopeful this will decrease over time as more people transition to EVs and need the infrastructure to charge.
Then for home charging the best we might be able to do is get auto makers to force the charger to lock onto the car unless it's unlocked. This way thieves can't just unlock it themselves. It would force them to make a decision if they want to risk cutting a live wire
re: "Putting a camera on the charger or at the site might help to deter people or at least capture them in the act and help police with identifying them or a car they drove up in." nope thanks to the GLOBAL PANDEMIC, they're all now wearing masks with NO F&%KS BEING GIVEN just like we see with all the numerous videos of cars being broken into (literally from other cars with plates) in broad daylight on the streets of 'Frisco, which is also something we see with all the numerous videos of Malls and High End Luxury Stores being ransacked by "Flash Mobs" (no relation to Branden Flasch) across the U.S...
i mean this has been all over the news for the last 4 years, so not sure how everyone's missed it, so i repeat for the 80th time... CAMERAS DON'T MEAN SH!T...!!! therein what you have to do is "strategize" differently than what you've been doing. hint: this ultimately requires YOU to change your behavior (ie. because you're wasting your time thinking you're going to appreciably be able to change the behavior of those around you).
There are some new designs that have retractable cables that only extend after a credit card is used. The cables are not accessible from street level.
Tesla's dc superchargers could make the cords rap around and lay in a deep groove. So they're not able to be reached. Till you log in and open your app.
This is a big problem I'm facing wanting to install in apartment buildings. We get several people per week trespassing, looking for things to steal and trying to get in to cars. I can box in the unit to help but the cable is vulnerable. Police do nothing about these crimes unless there is bodily injury. Even an airtag location will do nothing and they won't bother responding.
A steel cable inside the charging cable. True the steel can be cut, with bolt cutters , but how large a cutter is needed. copper is soft, steel is not.
13:20 In the Netherlands burned copper is not accepted any more actually.
Need to install wireless charging pads in the concrete driveway. Wouldn't solve all the problems but might solve some problems.
re: "Need to install wireless charging pads in the concrete driveway..." bingo, Wireless Charging is coming so one is just going to have to GET OVER their OCD and the "phallic obsession" they have (which is really what it is) with wrapping their hands around physical connectors. hell even Elon Musk has hinted at Wireless Charging, which means that the "beloved" NACS connector is destined to become OBSOLETE same as the CCS connector (aw crap).
Copper wire is less than solid copper when scrapping.That $2+ a lb you were looking at was likely a retail price. Scrap prices are absolute crap right now. Just took in some yesterday here in ohio. Copper wire was .40 a lb. made more on aluminium cans at .55 a lb.
Don't understand why you didn't Lock your Leaf's charge port? That feature has been available on the Leaf since its first release 🙄
Likely this is anti EV vandalism, not copper theft. Also it’s likely must less than $10 of scrap copper in an EVSE cable. And burned copper will get you even less value. I suspect most all of these incidents are anti EV people vs copper thieves.
Love the podcast :) FYI: I've been noticing some audio noise (slight fuzzy/crackling).
That is probably my camera/mic. Next time I will use a proper mic.
i am looking forward to having the BYOC system here
this was in his own house - he had his own cable. Unless you are saying you want home use chargers to have more easily replaceable cables
@@caraziegel7652 yes i would like home users to have easily replaceable cables,
currently a mobile charger is the closest thing.
An Apple Air Tag uses a lithium cell to power it. Small few mA rechargeable type lithium cells can be charged by a 3.3V regulator, low voltage drop low reverse current blocking diode, and a resistor to limit the charge current. The wires for the switch in the handle for triggering opening the charge port door could provide the power for the 3.3V regulator. This is a circuit the lithium cell maker showed how to make in an application note. I use it for charging backup batteries for the digital clock chips in my art pieces.
Doing this would allow the air tag circuit to be built into the charger handle, and it would work for the life of the cord, not just the life of the Air Tag battery.
Those Air Tags could be computer monitored for location. When one moves it can be automatically flagged and investigated.
I wonder if a more active “sentry mode” is in the cards.
They should embed an air tag somewhere in the cable.
Why not just concentrate on the metal merchants who must buy the stolen metal. Wouldn't that stop the theft occurring in the first place.
Houston is having bad vandalism problems with Tesla super chargers. Someone even had a sentry video of a guy cutting one in the process of charging and somehow it just sparked and he didn’t get electrocuted. Tried to pull it even while it was connected to a guys car
The power is protected by a ground fault interrupter.
Did this happen in California?
Metal recyclers require a drivers license (which they photograph along with your face) so check with them for recent copper purchases.
If a cable is snipped at the wall box and taken with the charging handle it could maybe be resold by a unscrupulous electrician as a new cable, albeit a bit shorter. This would be profitable.
You could run over your cable, you could park your car inside a garage. You could not own a leaf that has not protection as far as locking the plug but that really wont' Let being said its not worth much 20-40 bucks if that maybe less even more so when scrapped. They just were annoying you. Put the EV in a garage and you don't have this issue or put it in a tent. Lots of options here.
I wonder if something less valuable than copper can be used for charging cables like aluminum, especially in something less demanding like home charging EVSEs
re: "especially in something less demanding like home charging EVSEs" okay but is it really "less demanding" when you're talking about NEC Code, Fire Safety, and the security of one's Home where they and their family sleeps...?
How did they unplug the cable in the first place? Is it not locked to both charger and car?
Here in Europe the Type 2 and CCS2 cables are locked to the car and AC wallbox.
J1772 doesn’t lock during Level 1 and 2. J3400 aka Tesla connector locks regardless of what AC or DC is flowing.
@@jakthebomb Who thought that was a good idea heh. Especially in the US where people can't seem to leave others property alone.
@@jakthebombit does for most cars. If the car is locked, so is the connector. They would have to cut twice to get the cable.
@@LarsDennert My 2017 Bolt only locked when a CCS connector was plugged in. I can't speak to others, but even my roommate's 2nd gen Volt doesn't lock the connector. My 2024 Model Y is the first car I have driven that locks the connector regardless of the power source.
@@Gazer75 Yeah, Watching this podcast was infuriating. I wish we had harsher punishments for people who decide to vandalize and steal. If the punishment is minor, only the honest people are deterred.
Great podcast! Yeah, about 8 years ago we came up an idea of Graze's charging Basically just like RV parks and then everybody is in charge of their card. The local college got 20 charges within a year. Alot of them were vandalized damage neglected by the end of several years all gone so the maintenance for the cord doesn't seem to be worth it. The cost to just have colleges/ cities put up like RV Park 30 amp box would be amazing in the long run and then you have the minimal cord theft vandalism neglect, side note, the local EV group I pulled 70%, give or take. People didn't want to be bothered to use their own cord. They were annoyed at the idea. And then there's how do you track the cost? Electricity orange outlets might be one option. Smart grid is the second option where it just shows up through the electric line somehow. I'm not familiar with that technology but sounds cool. It just shows up on your electric bill. You plugged at this intersection for 3 hours. Your charge was three bucks in electricity, I have pictures of our prototype but can't figure out how to attach it.
Sent photos of our prototype to the channel email
Bring your own cable doesn’t work at home because you will be charging overnight usually
These people need some lead in their lives,
Need wireless charging.
Hopefully wireless fast chargers will work well.
they do, or you can just smartly REDUCE the need for DCFC charging in the first place by deploying lots of AC charging (Tommy Molo' has joined the chat).
@@phillyphil1513
Lots of AC charging could make the problem worse. Lots more cables to cut.
@ab-tf5fl well not when you look at it from an Electrician's perspective and recognize that L2 AC is technically "low voltage" and then take the (much smarter than us) European approach and make the cables "disconnectable" and also take the obvious next step, and install L2 Wireless like the Swedes have done in some of their Taxi lanes.
@ab-tf5fl re: "Lots more cables to cut..." btw no worries, for it's going to be a long while before L2 deployment catches up to the "Copper Smorgasbord" currently represented by the Supercharger Network and CCS-1...
yeah, so what's happened is by running out and hanging a "Copper Goldmine" out in the open of society, you've also created a VULNERABILITY for yourself, and now the criminal element of this same society (which we've always LOVED thinking we are "magically" seperate and insulated from) is now moving in to "attack you" precisely at this point of VULNERABILITY...
unfortunately the GREATER problem comes in that you kids still don't understand how ''Murica works, and therefore still don't understand what you're dealing with (and now you suffer for it as a result).
I had an outlet installed on the corner of my apartment. I then built a locking enclosure.
Fortunately I live in a hidden area.
re: "Fortunately I live in a hidden area." Grant Nelson the Thieves and Criminals WANT TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION. as such, you will likely be "doxxed" by the "seedy underbelly of society" in the next 24 to 48 hours (they have their ways).
Sounds like very experienced criminals to me.
Maybe ask around in the neighbourhood if more people got similar experience.
No worries, soon enough we will all have wireless charging. Not just at home, but also at DC charging spots. I don't think it's going to take that long, maybe 5 years or even less. The tech exists already, it's just used for small devices, once we find a cost effective solution, I'm sure it will be implemented everywhere, because of so many advantages this brings, like for example, no more different standards of chargers from one zone to another, basically any EV from anywhere could be used easily in any other country. Also, for people towing, it will be a breaze to simply place the car over a charging mat or something.
Even if 5 years' time we start to see new cars with wireless charging capabilities, it will be a long time before the public charging infrastructure catches up with that. Not to mention all those existing cars that do wired charging only that still need to be able to charge.
Wireless charging is very inefficient so it will increase charging costs and lengthen charging time.
@@arlenbell4376 That's a blanket statement taken out of context. The reality is that the cellphone chargers are not very efficient compared to the plug, but that's a concession made for the money saved on the charging device. On the other hand, the EV industry is not looking to save on the charger price, and there are several companies who have achieved a 90% efficiency or even a little more. It's still not commercially viable I suppose, but there is a path were 80% efficiency can be acceptable as a trade-off for comfort. Not sure where this leads us.
I would ask you to do a simple search on YT or just Google will provide you with several links or published articles.
Always a concern and not an easy problem to solve, particularly if someone is anti-EV and makes it a campaign in the area.
Bicyclists have been dealing with cut security cables for quite a while with small success. It would add cost but possibly putting a braided tough metal security inner core would deter the less adept thief. But against a power cutter, even the cyclists cannot counter the "power accessorized" thief. The less popular option would be licensing recyclers and have then not to accept material from anyone without a license to sell recyclable copper. But then, "they have a ""friend"" in the business."
re: "Bicyclists have been dealing with cut security cables for quite a while with small success." also ref: Motorcycle thefts in the U.K. yeah the availability of Li-Ion Battery Tools has been a BOON for hooligan Scooter Thieves in England the last 20 years, and it's been WELL PUBLICIZED. understandably, those not into Motorcycles will have NO KNOWLEDGE regarding the magnitude of this issue.
When a Tesla’s charging session is interrupted your phone will let you know immediately from the Tesla app. Meanwhile Sentry Mode will take a video of the vandal/thief.
I never would've thought people have a setup outside of their garage, because of vanadalism. This is so horrible. 😢 Both charging cables too.. Have they been caught?
I'm surprised the Leaf lets you take out the charger without much fuss. With my ID.4, you have to manually unlock the car, and even then sometimes multiple times...
@@vulpixelfulThey cut the cable on both sides of it; they left the connector plugged in the car.
@@tonys9413 No they didn't. You can clearly see them unplugging the car in the video. Cutting the cable would have given them a nasty short circuit if there was still current going through it.
I blame the US government States and Federal does not know how to run a respectable sociiety, people see the government does they want with bad excuses, why not me. it shows how we all let our society get to where it is and no signs of getting better. You can tell the prevailing government leaders are overly arrogant, complacent or just don't give a crap.
This is just vandalism, and I bet they own red hats.
Tweakers don't care about your charger, they just want their next fix. While I like the idea of puttling an airtag in the charger handles that presumes the police would have any interest at all in solving these crimes. Hint:they don't.
2:55 - pay attention folks, what the DEEPER MESSAGE being sent to you with this video is that what any and all video cameras represent is a FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY and that they CAN NOT and SHOULD NOT ever be relied on as one's "basic protection", but yet that's EXACTLY what you've been convinced of isn't it...? however what never crosses your mind is that what the camera maker's "true goal" has been this whole time (and i don't necessarily fault them for this) is to simply "get rich" off of selling you 80 cameras, and they have gotten rich. meanwhile notice how despite the proliferation of cameras across society CRIME is something that still occurs, you are still DAMAGED, you are still FORCED to "take a loss" in one form or another, and are now "saddled with the burden" of having to RECOVER from "said" loss...
FUN FACT: i too have IP surveillance cameras on my home and still i had a nearly brand new Catalytic Converter that i installed myself (aw crap) cut and stolen during these same overnight hours out from under a Honda CRV parked on the street in front of my house during the Pandemic. ref: the other crime tool besides old fashioned bolt cutters and "Whiz Wheels", are electric Reciprocating Saws or "Chop Saws" like those used in exhaust repair shops...
ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, what this means is the only thing that having possession of a video (after the fact) of a Crime being committed is good for is WIPING YOUR ASS...!!! that's right, and you will likely NEVER come to this "sobering understanding" unless you have family or friends that are in Law Enforcement. yeah, and i just so happen to have not just 1 but 3 friends where one is an ex-Navy Security Specialist and now local Township Police (22 years), another is a retired Trooper from the State Police, and another is ex-Army and retired Special Agent from the Feds (FBI)...
hint: the key is to NOT create obvious VULNERABILITIES for yourself (before the fact) by running out and having expensive Copper cords hanging all over the place, which is exactly what Elon and others like EA and EVGO (who were basically following in the footsteps of a moron) went out and did. the very fact that Europeans at least have "detachable cords" on their L2 EVSE's (where we 'Muricans still do not) actually reflects our "Blind Spot", and reflects this "differential" in understanding regarding the respective societies in which we live...
and while prices for commodities like Copper certainly fluctuate, no one who's been paying attention to the market can really describe Copper as being "low priced" or having "low value" at any point in the last 20 years...? no, for as anyone working in the Trades will tell you is how "finished resources" like Copper Piping and Copper Wiring have long been getting STOLEN from Construction Sites for this same 20 years. yeah, this is why you now see FENCES placed around active construction here in the 21st Century, whereas back during construction in the 1990's and 1980's nobody bothered much with erecting fences.
If the cords were just cut, it was thieves. If there was vandalism, it was sad, anti-EV weirdos. For public chargers, we should really have some "bring your own cable" units.
Really messed up to do that with a guy with cancer 😢
True, but thieves really don't think about or care about their victims.
re: "For public chargers, we should really have some "bring your own cable" units." which unfortunately means very little here in 'Murica where you see us "obsessed" and conspicuously displaying signs of OCD (think Kyle) for promoting Fast Charging units which really CAN NOT be safely converted to a "bring your own cable" configuration do to the need for Safety involving the transmission of High Voltage DC Power... ref: ARC BLAST IMMINENT...!!!
@@phillyphil1513 Not for fast chargers, just level 2
@@vulpixelful re: "Not for fast chargers, just level 2" no worries i heard you, but did you hear me...? not to take anything away from this gentlemen's misfortune but L2 vandalism is NOT really a "thing" here in the States, no, do a TH-cam search and you'll see how what's ACTUALLY being "targeted" in places like LA, 'Frisco, Seattle, Houston, Minneapolis, etc is the "big money" DCFC infrastructure that everybody in the EV space is conspicuously in LOVE with.
12 pump is a deterrent
“ Thou shall not steal ( without getting shot )
Not really!
Not really, a 40 second theft would happen long before the owner was aware and able to react
re: "12 pump is a deterrent...". well only in the REVENGE FANTASIES we create in our minds, and by way of Hollywood Movies. the sobering reality (and this factoid is really rather straight forward and basic) and that is ALL HUMAN BEINGS MUST SLEEP.
Another advantage of inductive wireless charging.
Inductive Wireless Charging is substantially less efficient vs metal to metal power delivery.
@@jakthebomb You are thinking of low voltage induction. Oak Ridge has developed wireless charging MORE efficient than wired.
www.ornl.gov/news/charging-commute
Maybe Out of Spec should do an interview.
@@jakthebomb Oak Ridge National Laboratory has demonstrated wireless charging an EV at 96% efficiency better than wired. Out of Spec should do an interview.
I live in Fresno County it doesn't take much $$$ to buy drugs.
Big mistake for the podcast is to not give any information about where this happened. Not all places in the USA are safe. If you live in a bad neighborhood, then worse thefts or crimes can happen.
It happens in places with high drug usage / tolerance. Usually blue voting areas out west. This is not a EV hate crime, it's a druggie who needs to get his next fix at any cost crime. I am not opposed to loose drug laws, we should not be locking people up for drug use.... but if htey have to steal to support their habit we need to take it to the next level.
Meth heads… trying to fund that next hit
are you sure?
More likely, an electrician with theft as a side hustle
Welcome to rural living in California.
Rural living in every state!
@@gmv0553and every country
lol this is in canada magat.....
Why I put my charger on the back of the house rather than the side next to the driveway. You can still see it plugged into car, but we don’t plug in but 1x/2x week. The rest of the time it is hidden. But this situation has occurred to me.