Let's Install a Linear Shower Drain
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- In today's video I'm installing the new QuickDrain system in my shower. This product was really easy to work with and offered tons of flexibility with my design choices. Watch the full shower renovation series👉🏼 • This Bathroom Renovati...
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You're allowed to drain this shower into a 1.5"? I thought all showers had to drain to 2".
@@dardackhere old code wanted 2” now 1.5 is fine based on the number of shower heads.
@@dardackA lot of codes allow 1.5". 2" is probably overkill anyways because of low flow showerheads.
I have a raised range. could I do this with out opening up the floor for a 2nd full master bed bathroom? My home has two master bedrooms one up and one Downstairs. Currently the house has two full bathrooms one with a laundry room downstairs?? What’s your thoughts? Please
Did Oatey sponsor this video?
I worked for a GC through summers in college. What I learned is that every project is like this. People make mistakes, things aren't perfect. The skill comes in the knowledge of how to overcome those issues and fix mistakes and how to be creative. I love how real this is showing the steps and going through the process. It's not always pretty getting from point A to B, but the finished product never shows the anguish!
Jeff, I'm loving all the o 💩 moments you leave in, showing us that hay, You're just like us and make a few mistakes along the way. Doing this it gives your viewers the courage to tackle the unknown. Just keeping it real makes all the difference!👊🏻👍🏻
yep I agree
I like the idea of building benches with foam. The shower tray looks like way more work than a schluter or other foam trays. I do understand why you went with that system because of your drain issues. Thanks for the info. Always good to have another possible solution for a challenging remodels.
You know it’s an upgrade when the drain pipe is ACTUALLY connected 😀
I was really holding my breath, waiting for him to forget that last connection...
renovated my kitchen and painted the house with your help Jeff. The next project: a new walk-in bathroom - and I just know that with your videos in my back pocket, it'll be a success! Thanks!
Hey Jeff, you mention new on the market, but this whole arrangement is VERY similar to a setup you've been able to buy from Schluter for years.
As in, they sell a thick structural foam to go underneath their pans, and a drain that makes an immediate 90 to jump across the subfloor surface.
I had to do a VERY similar installation (minus the linear drain) because of joist locations and where I could cut.
Which is all to say... going to bet this is way $$ cheaper.
As a 1st timer bathroom remodeler, it was super easy to use in all the same ways you are doing here.
Waterproof, strong as wood, and easy to cut. That structural foam stuff in a shower is MAGIC!
I’m looking to redo my bathroom since i followed your videos to finish my basement finally. Im confident I can do it. Great series Jeff!
That is a really interesting building material. I’ve never seen it before and I can already think of a lot of uses for it!
I have strong feeling it's something called XPS in Europe (Styrodur might be brand name). In general this is Polystyrene based product. It comes in different thickness so you can have it from 3mm (3/8 in) up to 100mm (4 in). Great stuff, works like charm + has great thermal coefficients.
It’s the foam they use for fake flower pots they just inject resin into it. Anyways it works great.
Glad you like it!I love it
Jeff, I love your videos and also how you just keep the camera rolling if there are any issues or mistakes, people need to see them too, keep up the great content 👍
Thanks, will do!
I started watching as a skeptic of that product. After watching. I think its brilliant. Awesome Video again!
Hey Jeff I died laughing at the beginning when you had to go back to the store due to getting the wrong part. You don't know how many times I've done that ugh smh. Glad it's not just me. BTW be kind to yourself. Much love man cheers
One of the best pieces of DIY advice I've ever received - never work on your project when Home Depot is closed.
Jeff, the way you make those measurements and cuts on the fly look easy. Cheers
Right!? When I’m measuring for a cut, I’m third-and-fourth-guessing myself constantly. It also doesn’t help that I have bad eyesight and have to get super up close to the tape to see the numbers. It’s come to the point where I’m heavily considering investing in a digital laser measuring tool…
WOW that's awesome product on the shower drainer. Great job. Learning as you go.
I like the whole drain system idea. Since I have a basement shower, it would probably be a nice way to give me the option to move the drain without having to dig out ancient concrete. Though I think even with the way this foam board works, I think I'd still rather have a prefab pan so I wouldn't forever second guess the waterproofing.
Hi Jeff. Awesome job 👌. Great video's. Looking forward to the finished product. 👍
Thanks 👍
Thank You for having faith in us.
Love the look of linear drains . I just had one installed in my shower only problem with them is if you do t clean the little drain every two weeks it will clog up easy
Depends on the brand. Some of them have flawed design - too many metal feet with sharp corners for the drain insert, which easily catches hairs and other debris. I bought and installed mine in EU from a reputable brand and never had any issues with clogging. Also, you shouldn't use 1.5" drain pipe for shower. Not over here anyway.
@@Visionist schluter kerdi is a reputable brand at least here in US. They make the drain trap holes to small hair always gets stuck in them. Especially when u live in a house full of women :(
@@Maatson_oh, I checked their website, now it makes sense. The drain insert has tiny holes. It’s removable tho, so can’t you go buy a different style insert?
@@Visionist lol you know I never thought to buy a different style insert never thought some one made one. I just clean it every two weeks or so. But I’ll look for the insert . Thanks .
I watched until the end. I love your work.
Plumbing Engineer here; the dye in the primer or prime+solvent is there so we can confirm during our site inspection punchlists that the joints were in fact primed. If there is a pipe failure, again the dye allows you to know if the joint failed due to design error, or installation error i.e. who's insurance is footing the bill.
Its like homer Simpsons building a shower .
Very informative Jeff. Thank you!
Great channel, Jeff! You have helped me a lot through the years; thank you! The QuickDrain system is interesting. Please keep up your excellent work.
Use a circular saw to cut the foamboard type stuff. It's super easy to do and while it makes a bit of a mess it's so much easier and safer the mess made is worth it.
I enjoy your commentary. I am so entertained by how much you sound like "Red" from "The Red Green Show." Your black & white inserts are reminiscent of "Adventures with Bill."
I had my doubts but it really came together in the end
If I had the money, I’d definitely redo one of the bathrooms with this product. Super light weight & easy to use. Like you say, just like wood.
That's the same high-density foam that some brands of fake rock panels are made of and yes it's strong foam. I've found it cuts nicely with a skill saw, jig saw or hand saw. It also drills nicely with a forstener bit.
Great video! You definitely cut that one piece backwards though. Thats why you mentioned it works on both sides haha I was watching when you were lining it up. Great stuff brother!
Jeff, it's Looking great. This new product has given me same good ideas for my next shower... Something you may not have thought of in your videos is when you go to sell this place the new home owner can use this video to see just how well it's built... Great work! See you at Disney World...
I could be wrong but at time 32:03 it looked like the pvc joint where you have the alignment mark on top opened up at the bottom slightly. If the glue was dry could that happen? I really enjoy your videos!
I googled how long does green PVC glue take to set and it says 15 minutes to 2 hours. Not sure if that's true but it definitely moved a bit.
Yep opened up :/
came to the comment section to see if anyone else had seen it - not sure if its bad, but I hope Jeff is aware of it
That’s 110% gonna leak Jeff 💧
I’ve been watching him for a few years his last few videos seems like he’s rushing everything 🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Great video! This foam board kit is mind blowingly good!
I love it!
Jeff,
What is a source for the foam tapered sheets? the Oatey website isn't east to decipher.
Good job on showing real world situations .👍🇨🇦
Harbor Freight Sawzall conquers all!
I found when doing plumbing is to just buy one of each fitting and keep the receipt. Then make friends with the return desk with quick and witty banter.
Fascinating that depending on what you want to do you have to call a plumber! Not the case in the UK, at least I hope so as everything was changed in my bathroom!
Great job Jeff.
I feel your pain daily! Keep up the good work!!
loved it: " some rules are just stupid and meant to be broken"
Better check code when I did my tub to shower conversion, code said you had to install a 2” drain line all the way to vertical drain pipe in wall, you can not do a reducer to 1-1/2!
I said the same thing, I did a lot of research before remodeling my bathrooms.
Jeff. Great video. Love your content. Wondering how you would mount a frameless sliding shower door to this foam curb. Most frameless shower doors require attaching a guide channel to the curb by screwing into it. Is that ok with this system? Or would it be better to toss the screws and just attach the guide channel with some adhesive or silicone? Anyone have guidance on this? Thanks!
Nice work, Jeff! Have a cup of coffee, or whatever!
I love that you showed your mistake. We all make them. : )
Do shower drains get clogged like other drains that need a snake to be used? If so, how do these linear drains accommodate that ability?
The music added is so distracting. I appreciate all your videos without music so I can pay attention to you. Im in Alabama. LOVE YOUR STUFF!!!
Foam to ya dome, Jeff renovated this home 🥳
There are numerous systems out there that are very similar to this one. Thick two inch foam that can be utilized are a structural component, for example schluter makes one. If you accidently cut the already applied waterproofing at the factory it can be waterproofed over the cut again so it wont be garbage.
Yea, been working with Schluter product on my own remodel and they even have videos about extending their premade pans with dry pack if you need to. Kerdi system is all just 2" overlap all seams. As a DIY guy I'm paying for the as close to idiot-proof systems with pretty pictures in the instructions lol
When putting in a shower in the basement, do I need to put down ply wood first? Or can i put the liner on top of concrete?
Our drains finally caught up to the aesthetic and functionality of European drainage systems.
GOOD attitude and good job.
Great video! Can you describe how you establish the floor slope from the bench to the drain - is the Oatey Quick Drain pre-sloped?
OMT for the down low flush cut on that pvc stub out
If mice can reach that foam, they will sherd it to pieces and make themselves a palace underneath the tiles. Speaking from experience :) Other than that, it's a good and practical material to use.
very informative. great job
So, you have had that constraption on youre head for days, and no footage......that must have been a fun moment.
Anyway looks like a great product and thank you again for a detailed video!!
Thank you! I wondered if I was the only one that noticed that.
Great system, but when you measure for the bench height of 17”, did you take the 5” floor into account? I don’t remember hearing you say that.
Totally enjoy listening and watching you- love the self catch oops and Oh well do it this way... shivering black bell thumbs up
The slope to the top drain looked good but but the slope to the bottom drain, look like it was going uphill. Other than that what a cool idea.
Since when do you put your drain under the lip of the wall?
Since when you need to slap something together for your TH-cam channel, and you need to shoehorn in a product you’re paid to include in your project, whether it fits or not.
Yeah, I’m really curious how he’s going to waterproof and tile that… 🤔
That drain is going to leak irregardless of where it’s put. Thinset is not going to stick to it in the center or against the wall. Garbage product.
Great series this one.
Great Vids TY. Im a little confused about the slope being created between the seat and the drain.??
Can you explain or give me a time mark...ty jimmy
How are to going to waterproof around the edge and corner of that drain system?
Jeff, Did you glue your final connection?
Jeff, I'm confused. I don't think I saw any sloping done on the floor. Will there be a part 2 on this shower?
Thought so as well... but the top layer he put on is sloped.
You could also use a piece of string to get low on that pipe and get a clean cut
Tell me more please
@@karensmith7094 you can buy a tool off the shelf that does the same thing but yeah, you take a piece of string and wrap it around the pipe, criss-crossing it and then you just pull back and f Roth with each hand. The friction from he string cuts through the pvc pipe.
did I miss it somewhere, where can we get this foam shower flooring? Is it available in Canada?
Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems like nothing is said about getting the shower base to slope to the linear drain. I think he briefly mentions using a wet shim there, but how do you get that right. it's a pretty important operation. Or are those foam panels tapered? I am about to embark on a very similar shower installation (bench at one end, linear drain at the other).
Interesting system. I'm curious to see how it ends up and holds up. Looks like it has potential. Can thinset be used to fill voids like that without issue (like around the plumbing, crevices, etc)?
Looks like the water is going to have an upward pitch...maybe open the floor up and get the bend of that 90 flush with the floor
I think you're right. It does look like an upward pitch from the drain. I hope I'm wrong.
I think it’s good.
There will always be standing water in that drain. And hairs getting stuck to the PVC that wasn’t reamed.
The long drain...that elbow...sits flush...
The elbow going into the ground is about an inch above due to where the jint was installed...1" pitch with 3 bends over the course of 1 foot...this wont be good
Even if he just cut a half inch around the pipe so he could get the 90 below the top of the plywood it seems like he could have got the right fall, and had enough pipe to get a good glue bond. The way he did it looks like it will be a problem.
29:43 I have real doubts about that half inch of product not breaking over time. I think it will fail. It certainly needs the tile over it with thinset to increase the strength.
we use this in greece for thermal insulation and its great
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I don't know how many times I've said, "I'm just getting started, and a need to go shopping!"
i'm only 12 minutes in but I want to see that gopro angle jeff 😂
I’m at 10 minutes left and the ‘cranium cam’ has yet to be implemented.
what U.S. State are you working out of ..? Great videos by the way..
How about adding a 1/4"? thick strip of foam to piece by back wall for sloping purposes instead of wet shimming?
Im not a plumber but have done alot of plumbing to know you never glue together a fitting without holding it for atleast a few seconds or it pushes apart a little when you let go of it, and the first fitting you glued onto the new drain made me cringe when i saw it and all fittings after that were still bad but first one you didnt hold at all and i knkw first hand if you dont hold em they all push apart, just varies how much they push apart, not worth the risk to rush through a few extra seconds of only a few fittings to do. Honestly if you told me you never had one leak, i wouldnt beleive you for a second, with that technique youve definitely had some leak, and that in of itself, should of made you learn your lesson
Can we use a tripod with the camera? I'm getting sea sick.
Very helpful video. Thank you.
I might have missed it but why use $50(?)-worth of foam instead of basically $0 worth of scrap timber/ply to make your bench?
Waterproofing
hello jefferey, i had a small question on how you sloped the flooring.. maybe i missed it, but is the foam pre sloped already?
I didn’t quite get when the shower’s fall to the drain was introduced? The sub floor is level right?
Hey Jeff, thx to you and your crew for doing these videos. So helpful.
I’m building my basement bathroom in a new construction home in Niagara region. I want to install the linear grate. Preconstruction drain comes straight up from concrete so Ithe 90’s and pipe increase the height to about 3.5 inches. I reached out to Oates for their flooring slab you installed but never heard back. Can I build up my floor with 2x4’s and plywood then lay the Schluter sloping tray.? Any other suggestions?
SLFP1760 is the foam underneath. If you order the side drain kid they come with the kit. If you need more then there is the part number
@@kyle6959 thanks Kyle. Is that part number from the USA? It doesn’t show up on the company’s site in Canada. They did give a product but they are 2’x4’ so there’d be a lot of seams and the cost per piece is crazy up here.
Hi Jeff, long time viewer!!! We bought a house last year and was told that our subfloor is a robust decking rather than joists and plywood. As a result, the decking flexes and so tile isn't recommended as any self-leveler and tile grout will crack. Would this product work if we placed it over the decking for our shower? My gut says yes as this foam board is structural but wanted to see if you had any thoughts.
You must have real confidence in your plumbing the amount of thin set you used around that drain. Wouldn’t want to repair that! In the UK we largely use push fittings instead of glue.
Love the Styrofoam ASMR.
“704.1 Slope of horizontal drainage piping… the slope of the piping shall be not less than 1/4 inch per foot (2-percent slope).” No wonder you don’t want to pull a permit.
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The video I’ve been waiting for!!!!!!
I'm not a fan of the bench in the shower. When I had my shower redone I opted out on the bench and got a teak wood bench that weathers great and can be loved in and out for depending on your preference. Just putting this out in the universe for those that maybe want the option for a bench but also may want the extra room. I got my bench off Amazon for around $150
that is a pretty awesome system ....nice work .
Please let us know the name of this foam board, and where to get it. There is no link in the video, and haven't seen one for ages. please let us know. thanks
I'm going to like this. I can already tell ❤
Me too….lol
A.R.T. Floors taught the wipe , flip , and clean the sponge .
Do you have to take up the old base floor or u can work over it
It looks great but how do you plunge it when there's a clog?
I have no knowledge of ABS plastic. I didn't know it also needed ABS glue. I have worked with CPVC though, but that was back in the mid 80's when I re-piped the family's house.
Maybe a multitool is better and more precise than a big sawzall to cut a small pvc pipe
Idk about more precise. I've used a multi tool and they come out the same lol.
I've seen plumbers use a sawzall in other videos though.
I am not sure what I just watched 😮
So, what is the foamboard product? I must be missing it, but I don't see it in the description.