Just came out of a 2 day hiking session with the 2019 model of this bag and what i can say... IT IS AWESOME! I filled her up all the way and even attached some bags on the outside handles and it stood really well. I literally rolled her up some rocks and dirt and it doesnt have a single scratch, its amazing!
Just came across your video. Amazing. I have had the 2012 version for many many years and it is now falling apart. I was quite dismayed at the 2021 version and felt so many things esp the pockets - administrative access were gone in the 2021 version, no compression straps et al. But I feel the 2020 version is the best of the old and the new. I had been looking around to replace with the a used older version but perhaps if I find a used 2020 version I might - perhaps go for that. I do greatly enjoy the upgrade for laptop system and tablet in the newer version just wish they would return to the many pockets - administrative options - and bottom pocket that existed in previous versions and put the side compressions back for the 2023 or 2024 version. Thanks again for a great review! Liked and subscribed!
I love the Surge backpacks .. ever since Surge II, had 2 Surge 3rd editions and this 4thedition in the review .it's been out since 2019 here.. there is one major design flaw on this and looking through the reviews on both this Surge 4 and the similar Router I'm not the only one who has had issue with the shoulder straps. The cut outs on the join with the bag and shoulder straps itself obviously make the support far weaker than previous models. One of mine has broken and seems others have had the same issue. Would be great if TNF sorted it. When I first got the pack i did think it strange having cut outs on the shoulder straps of all places
I didn't realize but my version is the 2010 version. It is still as good, watching the video shows that they have change it quite substantially in the design to make it more relevant. Good review buddy.
Cheers for a brilliant video just bought it after watching your video I've been using a berghaus twenty-four-seven 15l been a great bag just lacks pockets I now carry my drone around so needed something bigger but also wanted more pockets so fingers crossed this does the job
Nice review thanks, I too have the original 2009 version and honestly think it is the best, to me they seem to get worse every iteration just my opinion, glad mine is still going strong 💪 will have to update sometime.
Agreed they keep getting worse and worse! I have the 2012 version ( th-cam.com/video/mwjgxsxUcYY/w-d-xo.html ) and only now it is falling apart. And after searching was so dismayed at all the so called improvements when felt they got worse and worse esp for the administrative pockets and such. They improved on the laptop/table section but can easily just buy a case for the older versions. I hope they bring back many of the older features in upcoming versions such as compression side straps. Really loved the extra zipper on the bottom of the 2012 version of the Surge. This 2012 version I have taken many places for travel and all around NYC daily commuter it has withstood. I do like the newer versions having some felt sections esp for cameras and such but not at the expense of the administrative pockets of the old. Looking at this they still could have done a few bits. But I do feel at least the 2020 version is better than the 2021 version. I may still have to look at a few more videos to see if the 2020 model will work for me or look for another used older version...and if any 2020 versions are available online also.
Thanks for the review Desy. Did you get this at a Store in the US, or online? Sadly, not yet available in Australia, will have to hold out or have it shipped International. Oh, what colour way is yours called? :)
Hi Eddie, I actually have the Big Shot as well as the Surge! You'll be surprised that they are actually almost the same in terms of volume. If you want something a bit bigger check out the Osprey Tropos! I just got mine earlier this summer and I LOVE it!
Does this have enough *width* *space* for textbooks? I had the Router Transit and while it is big, it's mostly big *vertically.* So I would have to stack stuff on top of each other rather than beside each other. I would only fit one textbook and a 3" binder beside each other.
I think the width is about the same as the Router Transit and yes you are right that it is bigger VERTICALLY. Recently I have been using the Osprey Tropos as my new Everyday Bag and I love it! I'll be doing a review on that one soon
So out of the packs you have owned how do you rate this. I'm looking for a pack like this. Been looking at osprey and patagonia. Quite like the look of this. Have you trying the osprey apogee yet.
I have a north face borealis 28l and a Osprey apogee. North face has a bit more organization but the apogee has more room in the main compartment and is lighter. Osprey makes great quality packs and the shoulder straps are more comfortable in my opinion. However the north face laptop pocket seems to be padded better.
its ok for hiking... like a few hours or a daytrip is fine, but if u plan on carrying heavier loads, I would suggest an actual hikers backpack! One with a better waistbelt... You could tie down the trekking polls with the side straps, but it would dangle quite low unless you really cinch it up
Just came out of a 2 day hiking session with the 2019 model of this bag and what i can say... IT IS AWESOME!
I filled her up all the way and even attached some bags on the outside handles and it stood really well. I literally rolled her up some rocks and dirt and it doesnt have a single scratch, its amazing!
thats fantastic! glad ur lovin it!
I’ve had the 2009 version, then the 2015 and now this one. It’s an awesome EDC.
Just came across your video. Amazing. I have had the 2012 version for many many years and it is now falling apart. I was quite dismayed at the 2021 version and felt so many things esp the pockets - administrative access were gone in the 2021 version, no compression straps et al. But I feel the 2020 version is the best of the old and the new. I had been looking around to replace with the a used older version but perhaps if I find a used 2020 version I might - perhaps go for that. I do greatly enjoy the upgrade for laptop system and tablet in the newer version just wish they would return to the many pockets - administrative options - and bottom pocket that existed in previous versions and put the side compressions back for the 2023 or 2024 version. Thanks again for a great review! Liked and subscribed!
I love the Surge backpacks .. ever since Surge II, had 2 Surge 3rd editions and this 4thedition in the review .it's been out since 2019 here.. there is one major design flaw on this and looking through the reviews on both this Surge 4 and the similar Router I'm not the only one who has had issue with the shoulder straps. The cut outs on the join with the bag and shoulder straps itself obviously make the support far weaker than previous models. One of mine has broken and seems others have had the same issue. Would be great if TNF sorted it. When I first got the pack i did think it strange having cut outs on the shoulder straps of all places
I didn't realize but my version is the 2010 version. It is still as good, watching the video shows that they have change it quite substantially in the design to make it more relevant. Good review buddy.
Thanks!!!
wow, thank you, your video convinced me to buy this backpack, my first time ever buying a backpack over 100 dollars but i trust your judgement
hope you like it!
Same here lol.. this time i would like a very good one for traveling! Im gonna order one
Thanks. After a lot of confusing to choose, I just got my tnf surge 2020. Exactly the same like u reviewed.
nice!
Cheers for a brilliant video just bought it after watching your video
I've been using a berghaus twenty-four-seven 15l been a great bag just lacks pockets
I now carry my drone around so needed something bigger but also wanted more pockets so fingers crossed this does the job
Hope it works for you!
I have the womens version of this bag and I love it too, only gripe is how it falls forward when I put it down no matter how it's packed out
yeah i know, wish it could stand up on its own!
Nice review thanks, I too have the original 2009 version and honestly think it is the best, to me they seem to get worse every iteration just my opinion, glad mine is still going strong 💪 will have to update sometime.
great to hear its still going strong!
Agreed they keep getting worse and worse! I have the 2012 version ( th-cam.com/video/mwjgxsxUcYY/w-d-xo.html )
and only now it is falling apart. And after searching was so dismayed at all the so called improvements when felt they got worse and worse esp for the administrative pockets and such. They improved on the laptop/table section but can easily just buy a case for the older versions. I hope they bring back many of the older features in upcoming versions such as compression side straps. Really loved the extra zipper on the bottom of the 2012 version of the Surge. This 2012 version I have taken many places for travel and all around NYC daily commuter it has withstood. I do like the newer versions having some felt sections esp for cameras and such but not at the expense of the administrative pockets of the old. Looking at this they still could have done a few bits. But I do feel at least the 2020 version is better than the 2021 version. I may still have to look at a few more videos to see if the 2020 model will work for me or look for another used older version...and if any 2020 versions are available online also.
This is definitely better than the 2021 "renew" model
Just picked one up for 60 bucks from Marshall's. Really nice.
Great video!
Outside of this pack, what’s your next favorite one? I’m always looking for new ones to review as well!
Think Tank Urban Access 15, Wandrd Duo, Aer Tech Pack 1 or 2, Aer Go Pack
Can you make a "fill test" with that backpack? There are many review videos on this backpack but none of them covers the real capacity of it.
thanks for the tip, ill try and do this later on!
I didn’t know it had a whistle... I ran to find my find backpack... I was mind blown
BOOM!
Haha same here! Never knew and did exactly the same as u 😜
Hi Desy What kind of material is used in this backpack? like on the front of the backpack
Would shorter and slimmer water bottle slip out from the bottle holder if the bag fall backwards?
Very detailed review 🤘🤘🤘👍
Is this bag side pockets durable or not? It look look like thin elastic cloth
yeah it is a thin elastic cloth, but so far no issues!
Thanks for the review Desy.
Did you get this at a Store in the US, or online?
Sadly, not yet available in Australia, will have to hold out or have it shipped International.
Oh, what colour way is yours called? :)
**pardon me, Canada.
@@ajlacuesta6108 Hi AJ, I got mine from a North Face sample sale in store. It's a dark grey heather / ashphalt grey!
Wish they had the big shot. I like this one but for me it's small.
Hi Eddie, I actually have the Big Shot as well as the Surge! You'll be surprised that they are actually almost the same in terms of volume. If you want something a bit bigger check out the Osprey Tropos! I just got mine earlier this summer and I LOVE it!
Make a review Aer Tech Pack 2
would love to.... but they haven't sent me one this time =(
Thanks for the review he was very informative I went out and bought one thanks again
thanks!
How big of a tablet can fit? Is it made for a 11inch or 12.5. While also having a laptop?
Unfortunattely I don't have a 12.5 to test, but I feel like it would fit... I have a 9.8 x 6.8" ipad and theres plenty of room for a larger one
May i know which color is this?
Pls that nice Bag it is water Resistent or Water Proof?
no i wouldnt say its waterproof. light rain is fine though!
@@DesmondCheng Mr Dest Cheng. Thnks a lot for your time and answer. I bought a vert nice Samsonite with extra light water proof cover. Nice Afternoon
@@Castriot1 nice!
Hi Enjoy your Bag. Please whats it is the Product Code Number and The Model Name? Price in Eur? Thanks a lot.
Heather grey, here is the link!
www.thenorthface.com/shop/surge-backpack-nf0a3etv-12?variationId=FTJ
Is this significantly bigger than the router? I have the router and it's kind big for me I am 5'4 and I need a right size backpack for daily use.
Based on looking at the specs on the north face website, the router is 41litres, the surge is 31litres. So the surge is smaller!
Does this have enough *width* *space* for textbooks?
I had the Router Transit and while it is big, it's mostly big *vertically.* So I would have to stack stuff on top of each other rather than beside each other. I would only fit one textbook and a 3" binder beside each other.
I think the width is about the same as the Router Transit and yes you are right that it is bigger VERTICALLY.
Recently I have been using the Osprey Tropos as my new Everyday Bag and I love it! I'll be doing a review on that one soon
So out of the packs you have owned how do you rate this. I'm looking for a pack like this. Been looking at osprey and patagonia. Quite like the look of this. Have you trying the osprey apogee yet.
its a pretty versatile backpack! i really like it. i havent used the osprey apogee yet unfortunately
@@DesmondCheng thanks for reply any others you can recommend or the surge your favourite.
@@Path2Peak The Thinktank Shapeshifter is the most comfortable backpack I have ever used
@@DesmondCheng thank you
I have a north face borealis 28l and a Osprey apogee. North face has a bit more organization but the apogee has more room in the main compartment and is lighter. Osprey makes great quality packs and the shoulder straps are more comfortable in my opinion. However the north face laptop pocket seems to be padded better.
Are these good for hiking and can hold trekking polls? Was looking at this the recon, BOREALIS
its ok for hiking... like a few hours or a daytrip is fine, but if u plan on carrying heavier loads, I would suggest an actual hikers backpack! One with a better waistbelt...
You could tie down the trekking polls with the side straps, but it would dangle quite low unless you really cinch it up
Desy Cheng thank you for the response yah I decided to go with the rei ruck pack. And the north face recon for everyday use.
@@HotSizzleTV_ nice!
I have this in the women’s version. I cannot remember what liter this Surge 2020 backpack is. Can someone help me? Thanks ☺️👍🏼
unfortunatley i dont remmeber the exact size of that one!
So if I get the woman’s it will be smaller but everything on the inside will be the same?
should be the same yes! you can go on the north face website to double check!
can I buy this bag from someone
Hi what is the difference compare this to 2018 version?
Unfortunately I don't have the 2018 version so I'm not too sure!
Where was this filmed?
WeWork Marine Gateway in Vancouver
Forgot to add are the materials similar to that of osprey.
yes materials are very similar
Surge or router which is good?
router is a bit big, i prefer the surge. BUT I would prefer the Osprey Tropos over the surge
if anyone knows where I can buy another 2020 one I will pay Double the price
Any comments about the weight of this? I’m usually walking on campus a lot
its fairly lightweight! Official weight is 3 Lbs 2.8 Oz (1440 G)
What color is that?
TNF Dark Grey Heather / Ashphalt Gray
Hi sir how mch price northface surgebackpack..
dulf Santiago it’s on sale right now for $58
@@PokeYourEyez sir gdmorning im her in doha qatar how mch in riyal price sir..?thnx..also NF recon bckpck how mch sir..?
dulf Santiago it’s 211.18 rial
This or recon?
i prefer the surge
Capacity in Liters?
i think its 31L. But based on my experience, each bag manufacturer has different standards for how they measure the capacity FYI!
@@DesmondCheng thanks!
How tall are you?
im 5"8
2:03 this hole is for front bottle position. "Grab something really quick"... facepalm.
oh had no idea it was for front bottle position! But what's the purpose of that? I haven't seen any other bags with that feature!
@@DesmondCheng To grab the bottle without taking off backpack.
@@user-nj8vn3xm1p hmmmm the opening is actually too small for a water bottle to pass through
Does it fit a 17in laptop? (16in x 10in)
i dont know for sure, but i would think so! its quite spacious
I have a dell g5 5590 15,6’ , it fits too?
@@sambaraiz10 it should!