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Up until this point, Japan has been on the high foot, with some setbacks. Those are 42 twenty-minute long videos that others always sum as "They bombed pearl harbour, took some European colonies and catastrophically failed at Midway." To say I'm amazed and thankful for what the Kings and Generals team has done is a severe understatement!
Very well said. I knew Japan dominated, but not the true scope. These videos coming out weekly gives you a sense of how long they dominated for too. I knew Australia was involved and respected, but I had no idea how much they really did. Same with how involved China was, along with Japan fighting that war. And I especially did not understand what the locals in each of the regions truly dealt with. Until Kings and Generals ❤️👍
@@apexnext As an Aussie, I've always payed particular attention to what our boys did during the war, but I'm learning so many details that I've never seen anywhere else. This series is incredible.
Hi there, I am from Papua New Guinea 🇵🇬. I really appreciate your time and effort in doing these videos to inform and educate me about our history. I also appreciate those much younger then I giving their lives so I can enjoy the freedoms I have today. I would just like to point out that I’ve noticed you keep pronouncing Milne Bay as “Mil-Neh Bay” but the proper pronunciation is “Mil-in Bay”. Otherwise i feel privileged watching your videos. Thank you sir.
The opening musical notes for this series is becoming as iconic as the dum-dum sound from Law and Order. It really sets the tone for these videos. I'm enjoying these very detailed videos.
my great grandfather fought there. CO 101st Independent Workshops Brigade AEME. took a tank shell from one of the Type 95 Ha-Go light tanks home with him. (was also one of very few personal with a camera there)
It was pivotal. Milne Bay was the first defeat of Japanese land forces in the war. It showed beyond doubt they could be defeated. Incidentally, the barrels of 75 and 76 squadron Kitty Hawks at this battle were so worn a bullet could be dropped through the barrel without hitting the sides.
@@kawasakihonda8144 When we refer to it as "the war", are we only talking about the fighting in the Pacific or are we also talking about the other Asian battles? If the latter, then I do think Changsha and Khalkin Gol would count, but the number of people who say Milne Bay was the first defeat makes me think the former.
The Japanese were lucky to get away at all. Of the approximate 1300 that were evacuated, not a single ONE were fit for further fighting. After the Japanese had left Milne Bay, general Clowes was relieved from his post by McArthur and Blamey. On the grounds of: "failing to show sufficient vigor in the face of the enemy". Disregarding the fact that Clowes calmness and clear mind, had saved Milne Bay from being captured. Because as they show in this video, he never committed more than half of his garrison against the enemy. Witht the benefit of hindsight its easy to see what Clowes should have done. But at the time, he had no way of knowing what the Japanese were up to. What if the SNLF marines at Rabi were just the advance party of a larger force? And if so, where would they land? What if another Japanese force had landed and captured the nr.1 airfield? That's the situation Clowes were facing at Milne Bay. And he did a 'bloody marvelous job' in not giving in to emotions like McArthur ofthen did, sitting safely in his plush office i Brisbane.
McArthur is one of the most overrated generals in history. The ONLY time he ever managed a solid and decisive win under his own personal command was Incheon, which was against KPA, a total third rate power.
Clowes carried out a very cautious and measured defense, always keeping back substantial reserves to cover against further landings. He engaged the Japanese forces early, conducted a fighting retreat while rotating out the units in contact to prevent their being overwhelmed, and made his stand at the best possible position (an unfinished airstrip). As it turns out, this was the Japanese culminating point, but if it wasn't, he still had lots of options for reinforcing or counter-attacking, and all the while there was no way he was going to get blind-sided by a landing to his rear. It wasn't glamorous, but it was first-rate generalship. He definitely deserved better.
@@paulsillanpaa8268 funny that competent commanders like Clowes were sidelines for such silly reasons as not being aggressive enough. Meanwhile you had someone like The Auk, who bungled things in North Africa so badly Rommel almost captured Alexandria, being sent over to take command in India. What a great reward for failure. I can't help but feel like nepotism badly plagued the British army in the first years of the war.
McArthur loved the spotlight and took every opportunity to sideline anyone who could show him up. Cloves showed good judgment and situation awareness and was a better general then McArthur so he had to be discredited and removed.
MacArthur was an egomaniac and Blamey virtually useless.Had 2 uncles there. One infantry and one artillery. Blamey called the diggers cowards while retreating over the Stanley Range due to very poor intelligence and MacArthur caused a lot of casualties by ordering frontal assaults towards the end of the New Guinea campaign instead of starving the Japanese.
Yup, I believe this was the first land battle where the Japanese were decisively beaten by the Allies. They had set backs before, but this was the first where they had to give it up.
@@Darth_Enigma That’s a good question. I’m not really sure if the Ruskies counted as Allies at the time or if WW2 had started yet. I honestly do not know.
@@blockmasterscott I guess it's one of those grey areas where it's up to interpretation, kinda like how people have different views on when exactly WWII even began. If I'm not mistaken a British historian actually considers the Battle of Khalkhin Gol to be the beginning of the war, but I'm not entirely sure if that's true though. I personally always saw the war as beginning in 1937 so I guess I just kinda naturally included Khalkhin Gol as a part of it, but of course others may think differently.
The Australians killed the wounded Japanese because they COULDN'T trust them. The word was out, the Japanese would play possum until a corpsman arrived to treat his wounds. Then, a hand grenade would be detonated, killing everyone in range. The battle of Alligator Creek on Guadalcanal was the the first experience of this for the Marines. They never attempted to take another prisoner.
@@kwezicanca3698 The Japanese would also often torture the captured, and non-japanese forces wouldn't play dead only to blow themselves and those attempting to check on them up, very different circumstances.
Can you please do a short on the fuzzy Wuzzy angels? You mention the native baggage carriers and it doesn't seem like enough. The fuzzy Wuzzy angels are very special to Australians with all school children being taught about them carrying the wounded. There are many statues of them across Australia also
It is fair to say that the Battle of Milne Bay has not been given its proper regard at least from an American perspective. Just watched an old post war American doc about the Pacific. The only mention of Milne Bay was just a couple of sentences and would lead one to think that US bombers knocked the Japanese out of there. No mention of Australians anywhere. Bet the Aussies love that.
I recall reading there was a US engineering unit and their security support present and fighting to help repel the banzai charges. That alone should have raised the profile of this battle in the US.
That was actually deliberate by the Americans. Macarthur was in a race with the US navy and marines to obtain the first victories. He resented nimitz having command of the western pacific. As a result macarthur was frustrated with the Australians - while having no idea of the conditions they were fighting in (he visited papua new guinea once, for a few hours). Also, the Australians held him in contempt. When US forces arrived in paua new guinea (still to come) macarthur drove them and the Australians mercilessly to take buna, gona, and sanananda but the US army forces failed miserably - which the Australians had warned him about. As a result the Australians took over most of the US army’s objectives. Driven by macarthur they eventually took those 3 fortified villages, at very high cost (which produced the first cannibalisations by japanese forces) which infuriated the Australians. Macarthur, being an egomaniac concluded the Australians were gloating over his various failures and from then on minimised the Australian achievements in all reports, then sent them to fight a strategically pointless jungle war against the Japanese in Indonesia. Ironically, turning us into the best jungle fighting force of the 20th century. Thanks to macarthur the true history of Australia’s part in the pacific war was more or less erased. This series is the first ive seen correcting the record.
@@tileux Yes, The American Warlord. Truly a real piece of work. Aussies most of all have reason to detest him. While he minimized the Aussies at the time to the press and operationally I can't lay full blame for the historic omissions on Dougie. In general Americans wrote the history to be read by Americans. The US media in general, like any other country, will focus on their own people. While its more natural than nefarious it certainly is something to be aware of when viewing.
It should be noted that Admiral Fletcher never fell out of favor with Nimitz; being able to personally interact with him, Nimitz appreciated his leadership style, and his record of victory spoke well for him. Unfortunately, Admiral King was adversely influenced by dedicated carrier officers on rotation in Washington who took every opportunity to disparage the battleship admiral Fletcher, and King himself favored much greater aggression. When he departed for the West Coast Fletcher was still in Nimitz's good graces, but once he got there King saw to his reassignment to shore commands.
Fletcher's command was competent, especially given how inexperienced the US was with combat operations, but King was right to replace him: the Marines started taking his command personally after the landings at Guadalcanal, and the Navy needed to keep being aggressive in the Pacific if it didn't want the British to get even more resources pulled for Operation Torch.
I'm curious how you know this? I mean, even it Nimitz never said a negative thing about him that doesn't necessarily mean he didn't feel someone else would be better suited to the task. There is alot of room between favor and criticism. I'm not saying you're wrong. I have no idea. I'm just curious how we know this.
Thank you for this war history. It breaks my heart to hear about those who fought in the battle of Milne Bay. Im from Milne Bay & I live here. I've never known much about Milne Bay. I'm a young man & I want to know more about this place. Both my grandfather's helped the Australian & American forces in WWII. Unfortunately, no Milne Bayan has done any historical study on Milne Bay history of the town itself. Thank you Australia & USA Alotau Milne Bay Province Papua New Guinea
Thanks Kevin, my grandfather died there on the 28th August 1942 and your grandfathers probably helped him. Thanks to you and your countrymen/ women for their courage and help ❤
Hi Rob Whittker. Will you be able to tell more about your grandfather? I'm interested because I'm a Volunteer tour guide here in Alotau town for the Milne Bay Tourism Bureau & I'm in search of war history. Unfortunately, I have limited information. I need the information because I'm always communicating with tourist whenever the Tourist ship arrives into Port of Milne Bay. Do you use WATTSUP? Do you have an email address? Can I get in touch with you to tell me more? Thanks Kevin 🇵🇬
@@kevinyowait2463 hello Kevin, thanks for your response. I hope you are well. My grandfather was Ronald Whittaker and he was a member of the 2/10 Battalion (?) out of Adelaide Australia. I would like to tell you more, but can I contact you via the Milne bay tourism bureau? I don’t have a lot of information about him, but he did leave behind a wife and 2 young boys, one of whom was my father. All the best to you and your family. If I can confirm your details I would like to talk more.
@@warrenklein7817 yeah. That and the terrain. In North Africa, you could see a tank coming from miles and organize your defense and how to neutralize them. In the thick jungles of Milne bay, the Japanese would outflank them via the jungles, cut them off and them trap them between fox holes and the 2 advancing tanks as they routinely did. It's not a pretty position to be in.
In jungle terrain, it's mostly an infantry war. Like at the disastrous (for the Allies) battle of Slim River at Malaya. A column of 6 light tanks drove down the road and basically just mowed down the defenders with machine guns, drive-by shooting style.
6:30 I get that banzai charges were effective in different situations, but "oh shit, they have way more firepower than we thought, let's just fucking run at them three times in a row" is one of those wtf moments
I suspect that against poorly trained units the banzai charge would be very effective. Unfortunately for Japanese, Aussies don't do poorly trained units.
banzai charges were kinda a relic that had uses in certain situations. Their biggest advantage was shocking enemy forces, making them panic if they had little discipline. After all, imagine pouring down machinegun fire into an enemy only to have hordes charging you recklessly without a care for deaths. If they actually got close, the japanese soldiers were ferocious in hand-to-hand combat, which generally wasnt a major part of training for infantry. It was more important for soldiers to know how to fire their guns than to defend themselves on the off chance an enemy could, let alone would want to, get close. So against the unskilled, untrained, practically levied soldiers in colony garrisons? Very effective. But Australia had its regulars, its actually trained army, which wouldnt be so foolish as to let the enemy get close. Machineguns can mow down a horde with ease. To be honest, id think banzai charges were more about the ego of the japanese than being a viable tactic: they thought everyone they faced would be cowards who wouldnt put up a fight. Interestingly, a similar idea to banzai charges is what led the Caroleans of Sweden to be the most capable military in the 1700s
Can you do a video of the Anglo-Soviet Invasion of Iran(1941) , Anglo -Iraqi war (1941), and the Anglo Invasion of Vichy Syria (Syria-Lebanon campaign) (1941), Operation Exporter in a separate video? This will clear the objective of Nazi Germany and Japan regarding Operation Orient. Please do a video on "Axis powers negotiations on the division of Asia"
Thanks for doing this series. The New Guinea Campaign has been ignored for so long and that is a disservice for the many brave and determined Australian soldiers.
@@justinwillingale2086 The strange thing is, I have read books and watched videos about the British in India, the Chindits, the Malaysian Campaign, and Guadalcanal. Yet, the whole New Guinea campaign is like looking at a black hole. You know it's there, but can't actually see it. I personally feel like America would have cheered the Aussies and New Zealanders kicking the Japanese around the area like a football, but a certain egotistical General, whose name rhymes with BacArthur, couldn't deal with any other person getting any credit for that. Personally, I don't know why the Aussies didn't just round up all of those damned Drop-Bears and turn them loose on the Japanese. Could have shortned the war by 2 years.
@@TheJoeysmom that’s why MCather sent the wrong information deliberately to some of our generals but we learnt from ww1 under British command not to take information even from supposed allies as a pinch of salt. When it comes to sending our men into certain death, yea that is correct McArthur made sure we were not mentioned in the history books. I knew about our victory from my grandfather who’s father when back to Brisbane after the war got into brawls with American troops lol. Well to be honest we should of gathered up the Emus that routed 100 servicemen in the emu war, might had won the whole campaign haha
I've been watching Kings and Generals for years now, I am now in college to become a history teacher. History is my passion, and as I love this channel I hate to see it be losing views. I think most people are turned off to clicking on a video when it's on it's #42nd episode. I really like your videos and I hope you are able to continue doing them but I think most people want video series that they are able to watch in practically a day or two.
Don't worry about K&G fam, they doing better than ever by my observation! 😁👍 It seems less people are interested in these Pacific War videos. But it's still very many. Many of their newer videos are also their most popular, they won't all break the internet. 😂 I have the feeling after 4 years (!) when this series is complete. It will be watched, discovered by new history fans, rewatched by many, and loved for decades. ❤️
Wow, I didn't even realize this was the 42nd episode, that's amazing. This will certainly be their longest series yet, and I do hope it continues til the very end, it's up there with the Mongol Invasions, Ottoman Wars, and Early Muslim Conquest as my favorite K&G series.
The Milne Bay victory by the Australians, lead to rioting in Australia between Australian & American soldiers as McArthur’s controlled news media made out that it was an American victory with Australians playing a minor roll in it !
@@hashtagrex The Australians held the line extremely well and they def deserve more credit than they get but the fact is America did the real heavy lifting and slogging in the pacific to defeat Japan which is why it's remembered as a mostly American victory. Without American industrial and military might the allies would have never defeated Japan its simple as that.
@@cattledog901 your grand response to mcarthur's propaganda being called out was to spout more gibberish propaganda? and you seriously thought thatd be an intelligent arguement? that "heavy lifting" you egomaniac americans pretend won the war were island hopping campaigns with a few hundred casualties at most. it was far from "heavy lifting." you people have no idea what war is. you have not had your cities attacked, levelled and evacuated. you did not have your homes destroyed and your nation crippled. you got rich off the suffering of millions of people, then walked in after no one was capable of fighting you and called it "heavy lifting." obnoxious propaganda fuelled rubbish will never change reality
Those Australians that battered the Japanese in the Milne Bay Campaign and beyond were some of the most unsung soldiers of the Pacific Campaign. Everyone focuses on the European theatre and to a less extent the western Pacific, but they have barely given note to anything that happened in the south of the Philippines and in/around Burma and South China.
@@tileux they were. Im sure there are kiwis who can add plenty more, but the North African campaign and the battle of Crete are just a couple of examples of Kiwis punching above their weight. The kiwis and aussies were both relatively small forces but fought and won some of the toughest battles
@@georgemanifold6802 mate, its unfortunate to say this but its the facts: crete would have wiped out the german airborne division - the were on their way to a 100% casualty rate - but it was a screw up by new Zealand officers that led to the germans seizing the maleme airfield. New Zealanders then failed to retake the airfield. That allowee the germans to land tanks. Biritish amd Australian forces - who had literally massacred the german paratroops and were ready to mop them up the next morning were appalled to suddenly receive the order to abandon the island. The german commander couldnt believe his luck. Unfortunately, the facts are the performance of the new zealanders in ww2 was fairly average. It doesnt give me any pleasure to say that but im just telling the story as it was.
What is astonishing to me, is that the Australians fought so hard...when their own supply estimates demonstrated that no force could hope to supply themselves the full distance along the track. Port Moresby was never realistically in any danger, since the Australians could, in theory, simply retreat to the last few ridgelines before the coastal plane, and the Japanese could never supply themselves sufficiently to conduct a successful assault. Of course, you do have to fight for it...as you never know what means the enemy will take to overcome the challenge...
The problem with a retreat strategy is that the first SNLF might be feelers. They get close to.port Moresby and they could dig in, signal for the rest of the invasion force to move in and build wider roads and bolster supply lines for the final drive. They did so in several theatres against the Brits and Americans
After watching every episode in this series, Kittyhawk is still yhe most adorable name for an airplane ever 😂 sounds more like a kids toy than a fighter plane to me 😅
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There's a theory that the Japanese commanders deliberately allowed the mistreatment of wounded & surrendered Allied troops; because it meant that the Allied troops would give the Japanese troops no quarter (as seen when the Australians start taking no prisoners at 7:15 ). If you were a Japanese soldier - assuming and the Allies were legitimately going to let you surrender - you'd be so worried that the Allied troops would do to you, what your friends did to them, you'd be unlikely to even try. Which explains why many Japanese refused to surrender, played dead, used wounded Australians as target practice and all that other horribleness. The Pacific theatre was certainly not a 'gentlemanly fight'. For a great breakdown of this dynamic, I'd highly recommend Dan Carlin's 6 part series of the Pacific War.
It’s a terrible justification but the atomic bombs were partly to do with utter hatred the Pacific Allies had for the Japanese Empire, and the total disrespect of the Geneva convention. Yes, they did the numbers on projected troops loses trying to do amphibious landings, but those targets chosen were for population and maximum reprisals.
@@tileux go give Dan Carlin's 'Supernova in the East' series a listen and then chase up his sources - that's where I got it from. I'm not a historian, just an amateur, so I never read past that casual listen (it's a podcast). I'm open to being wrong here, but I doubt someone like Carlin would pull it out of his arse - he has a pretty solid followership of history buffs who would call him out.
@@J_Stronsky nah, its false mate. The idea that japanese officers even thought of that is ludicrous. Japanese military practice was brutal from the beginning, including to its own men. Japanese troops were thoroughly indoctrinated in that. They didnt need anything else. But also many thousands of Japanese surrendered and were captured in the islands campaigns. Its false that prisoners werent taken, although they werent usually taken by Australians or marines, simply due to the fact that it was difficult to take prisoners in the jungle in the muddle of a fight. Also, a lot of japanese forces were actually koreans and they surrendered in even largest numbers than the japanese.
I doubt the Aussies would have wasted a bullet on the wounded Japanese. Not after seeing the evidence of the torture inflicted on their mates before they were killed. They would have used the bayonet.
you couldn't risk getting close enough to use a bayonet, The Japanese too often were holding a grenade, just waiting for someone to get close enough to blow up themselves and any enemy soldier that got close enough. It would be a few years before officers started to impose careful rules on taking prisoners
@@flyingeagle3898 I remember a soldier fighting along the kokoda track saying that they would tie the Japanese to trees for the reserves coming up the track to finish them
Can you fix the flag behind Cyril Clowes. You have the wrong flag behind him. He was Australian and not from New Zealand. Same goes for Arnold Potts who you have also occasionally with the New Zealand flag behind him. Also, this was the first defeat of the Japanese on land, not "one of the first."
We always hear the phrase "The Tokyo Express" when we hear about the Japanese supply runs to Guadalcanal but never the Japanese name for it "The Rat Transportation." It's not a bad nickname for it.
they killed them because they couldnt trust the Japanese. The Japanese would play possum and then pull a grenade out and kill everyone within range. It was dangerous to keep prisoners.
Three great powers, USA 🇺🇸, Australia 🇦🇺 and Japan 🇯🇵 are fighting huge battles over huge distances with vast resources in the South Pacific. The island 🏝 terrain is as hostile as the North African desert or Eastern Front.
North Africa was prob the least brutal or 1940 france, Middle East campain, east Africa, or the battle of Dakar fun fact there was bombings of Nigeria yes Nigeria was bombed in ww2 Lagos
, 100% the Japanese used out wounded and prisoners as bayonet practise there are also reports of the Japanese eating the calfs and thighs of dead Australians on The Kokoda Track
Japanese first real land defeat was inflicted by the Chinese forces in the Battle of Pingxingguan in 1937, albeit minor in nature. Japanese second and serious land defeat was in the Battle of Tai-erzhuang in 1938. Followed by the Battle of Lake Khasan in the same year and the Battle of Khalkhin Gol and next in the First and Second Battle of Changsha, long before Pearl Harbor was attacked. Western Allies did took sometime before being able to defeat the Japanese or at least inflicting serious setback on land battles, like in the stubborn defences of Bataan Peninsula, Battle of Tenaru, and this, Battle of Milne Bay. More land defeats were looming for the Japanese.
@@xWarLegendx please don't deny Chinese contributions in the Pacific War. They pinned down the bulk of the Japanese land forces in mainland China for the entire war. They fought for the hardest and the longest. If the Chinese gave up their fight, it would be easy for the Japanese to redeploy their bulk of forces in China to fight against the Allies in the Pacific Isles and Burma.
I would love you guys so much more if you pin a comment with all the little info blurbs that you put in the corner - I can read pretty fast but I always miss part of them!
Where was the Japanese advance finally stopped? Milne Bay. Where was the Nazi advance finally stopped? El Alamein. Not just Aussies both times, but some of them were the SAME PEOPLE. Thanks for this. My wife’s grandfather was a kitty hawk mechanic at Milne bay. He mentioned defending an airfield and rolling into the river, so now I know which one it was 🙂 Also I know exactly how our diggers would have pronounced Waga Waga- there’s an Australian country town named Wagga Wagga 😀
What does 2/9th Battalion mean? You keep referring to it as the "Second Ninth Battalion". Does that mean that it's the 209th Battalion, does it mean it's the 9th Battalion of the 2nd Regiment, or is it something else?
@@alexdobma4694 Due to the provisions of the Defence Act, which precluded sending conscripts outside of Australian territory, a Second Australian Imperial Force (2nd AIF) was formed.[11] The battalions of this force were largely drawn out of the militia battalions, and the units of 2nd AIF were distinguished from their militia counterparts by adding a "2/" in front of the numeral that indicated the battalion.[12] The 2/9th Battalion was created from volunteers for overseas service from the 9th Battalion, although the 2/9th was independent from the militia unit, serving as a part of 18th Brigade in North Africa, New Guinea and on Borneo.[13] The 2/9th was disbanded at the end of the war, however, its battle honours live on in 9 RQR.
2nd Battalion of the 9th Regiment = 2/9. I think there was a typo. Could also go with 2nd Company of the 9th Battalion. Yep, I think it's the company designation. Or it's a new verse to Waltzing Matilda.
It’s stands for the 9th Battalion of the 2nd Australian Imperial Force (AIF). The First Australian Imperial Force was in WW1. Example, the 30th Battalion was 2/30 Battalion. The Australian Imperial force for WW1 and WW2 was named as such in order to separate it from the permanent military forces and militia forces who stayed in Australia as the AIF was a deployed overseas force.
Why do they always use the Japanese commanders first names and not the allies commanders first names too? And when's the scale going to make its appearance? Video 100? Maybe by the end of the war video 191?
As far as I can say, in IJA temporary units bearing the commander's name were often the official name. Akiyama detachment and Ichiki detachment are famous.
Traditionally, Japanese names have the family name first, such as Oda Nobunaga and his son Oda Nobutada. So really they are just using surnames for everyone.
Milne is properly pronounced as: MIln as in KIln!! But definitely not as Milneh Bay!! In the same way, A.A.Milne, who wrote the “Winnie the Pooh” children’s books!
It's also the name of the Nobel Prize-winning University of Texas professor for his contributions to the development of the lithium battery. He also seems to pronounce his name as it is written, "Good-enough".
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We are truly blown away, this is such a fascinating series. Each episode just grips us entirely!
Yep cant wait till next week.
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Up until this point, Japan has been on the high foot, with some setbacks. Those are 42 twenty-minute long videos that others always sum as "They bombed pearl harbour, took some European colonies and catastrophically failed at Midway."
To say I'm amazed and thankful for what the Kings and Generals team has done is a severe understatement!
Very well said.
I knew Japan dominated, but not the true scope. These videos coming out weekly gives you a sense of how long they dominated for too.
I knew Australia was involved and respected, but I had no idea how much they really did.
Same with how involved China was, along with Japan fighting that war.
And I especially did not understand what the locals in each of the regions truly dealt with.
Until Kings and Generals ❤️👍
@@apexnext As an Aussie, I've always payed particular attention to what our boys did during the war, but I'm learning so many details that I've never seen anywhere else. This series is incredible.
Thanks Australia we will make sure to test nukes in your waters and land for helping the US in the war smh
@@apexnext Australia was bombed over a 100 times by Japanese aircraft.
Hi there, I am from Papua New Guinea 🇵🇬. I really appreciate your time and effort in doing these videos to inform and educate me about our history. I also appreciate those much younger then I giving their lives so I can enjoy the freedoms I have today. I would just like to point out that I’ve noticed you keep pronouncing Milne Bay as “Mil-Neh Bay” but the proper pronunciation is “Mil-in Bay”. Otherwise i feel privileged watching your videos. Thank you sir.
How is Kokoda pronounced in PNG? In Australia it isn't Cock-a-da, which just sounds weird to our ears.
@@hawkieeyes6089 I'm in the US, and I've always heard it as "ko KO da". And Milne has a silent E, so is a single syllable, "Miln".
And Maroubra is pronounced Maroobra, not Marobra
'Kanga' has a hard 'g' derived from.kangaroo
Why do you eat people in Papue New Guinea?
My grandfather was a gunner during the Milne Bay battle in the 2/2 machine gun battalion. I’m so very proud of him.
The opening musical notes for this series is becoming as iconic as the dum-dum sound from Law and Order. It really sets the tone for these videos. I'm enjoying these very detailed videos.
my great grandfather fought there. CO 101st Independent Workshops Brigade AEME. took a tank shell from one of the Type 95 Ha-Go light tanks home with him. (was also one of very few personal with a camera there)
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My great uncle was a signalman at the battle of milne bay. The battle could be considered pivotal, regarding the Japanese advance up to that point.
It was pivotal. Milne Bay was the first defeat of Japanese land forces in the war. It showed beyond doubt they could be defeated.
Incidentally, the barrels of 75 and 76 squadron Kitty Hawks at this battle were so worn a bullet could be dropped through the barrel without hitting the sides.
@@ianb9028 Nope I don't think it is the first defeat. Battle of Changsha (1939), Battle of Khalkin Gol (1939), and many more.
@@kawasakihonda8144 When we refer to it as "the war", are we only talking about the fighting in the Pacific or are we also talking about the other Asian battles? If the latter, then I do think Changsha and Khalkin Gol would count, but the number of people who say Milne Bay was the first defeat makes me think the former.
The Japanese were lucky to get away at all. Of the approximate 1300 that were evacuated, not a single ONE were fit for further fighting.
After the Japanese had left Milne Bay, general Clowes was relieved from his post by McArthur and Blamey. On the grounds of: "failing to show sufficient vigor in the face of the enemy".
Disregarding the fact that Clowes calmness and clear mind, had saved Milne Bay from being captured. Because as they show in this video, he never committed more than half of his garrison against the enemy.
Witht the benefit of hindsight its easy to see what Clowes should have done. But at the time, he had no way of knowing what the Japanese were up to. What if the SNLF marines at Rabi were just the advance party of a larger force? And if so, where would they land? What if another Japanese force had landed and captured the nr.1 airfield?
That's the situation Clowes were facing at Milne Bay. And he did a 'bloody marvelous job' in not giving in to emotions like McArthur ofthen did, sitting safely in his plush office i Brisbane.
McArthur is one of the most overrated generals in history. The ONLY time he ever managed a solid and decisive win under his own personal command was Incheon, which was against KPA, a total third rate power.
Clowes carried out a very cautious and measured defense, always keeping back substantial reserves to cover against further landings. He engaged the Japanese forces early, conducted a fighting retreat while rotating out the units in contact to prevent their being overwhelmed, and made his stand at the best possible position (an unfinished airstrip). As it turns out, this was the Japanese culminating point, but if it wasn't, he still had lots of options for reinforcing or counter-attacking, and all the while there was no way he was going to get blind-sided by a landing to his rear.
It wasn't glamorous, but it was first-rate generalship. He definitely deserved better.
@@paulsillanpaa8268 funny that competent commanders like Clowes were sidelines for such silly reasons as not being aggressive enough. Meanwhile you had someone like The Auk, who bungled things in North Africa so badly Rommel almost captured Alexandria, being sent over to take command in India. What a great reward for failure.
I can't help but feel like nepotism badly plagued the British army in the first years of the war.
McArthur loved the spotlight and took every opportunity to sideline anyone who could show him up. Cloves showed good judgment and situation awareness and was a better general then McArthur so he had to be discredited and removed.
MacArthur was an egomaniac and Blamey virtually useless.Had 2 uncles there. One infantry and one artillery. Blamey called the diggers cowards while retreating over the Stanley Range due to very poor intelligence and MacArthur caused a lot of casualties by ordering frontal assaults towards the end of the New Guinea campaign instead of starving the Japanese.
Yup, I believe this was the first land battle where the Japanese were decisively beaten by the Allies. They had set backs before, but this was the first where they had to give it up.
Does Khalkhin Gol count or is that battle not considered part of WWII?
@@Darth_Enigma That’s a good question. I’m not really sure if the Ruskies counted as Allies at the time or if WW2 had started yet.
I honestly do not know.
@@blockmasterscott I guess it's one of those grey areas where it's up to interpretation, kinda like how people have different views on when exactly WWII even began. If I'm not mistaken a British historian actually considers the Battle of Khalkhin Gol to be the beginning of the war, but I'm not entirely sure if that's true though.
I personally always saw the war as beginning in 1937 so I guess I just kinda naturally included Khalkhin Gol as a part of it, but of course others may think differently.
The Australians killed the wounded Japanese because they COULDN'T trust them. The word was out, the Japanese would play possum until a corpsman arrived to treat his wounds. Then, a hand grenade would be detonated, killing everyone in range. The battle of Alligator Creek on Guadalcanal was the the first experience of this for the Marines. They never attempted to take another prisoner.
But if thr Japanese do the same thing, kill the wounded and unarmed they are savages??
@@kwezicanca3698 The Japanese would also often torture the captured, and non-japanese forces wouldn't play dead only to blow themselves and those attempting to check on them up, very different circumstances.
@@nunya2171 Yeah, their comment is either ignorance or false equivalency.
@@kwezicanca3698 Yeah, because our soldiers don't blow themselves up when they lose.
@@kwezicanca3698funnily enough, American troops don't usually try to kamikaze the enemy, they have something called self preservation.
Damn the Aussies literally chased and pushed the Japanese back into the sea!
Can you please do a short on the fuzzy Wuzzy angels? You mention the native baggage carriers and it doesn't seem like enough. The fuzzy Wuzzy angels are very special to Australians with all school children being taught about them carrying the wounded. There are many statues of them across Australia also
The Southwestern Pacific zone of operation always get the short shaft in war coverage this is good coverage
It is fair to say that the Battle of Milne Bay has not been given its proper regard at least from an American perspective. Just watched an old post war American doc about the Pacific. The only mention of Milne Bay was just a couple of sentences and would lead one to think that US bombers knocked the Japanese out of there. No mention of Australians anywhere.
Bet the Aussies love that.
Yeah I had no idea how involved Australia was. I feel cheated by my schooling.
More respect to them now!
I recall reading there was a US engineering unit and their security support present and fighting to help repel the banzai charges. That alone should have raised the profile of this battle in the US.
That was actually deliberate by the Americans. Macarthur was in a race with the US navy and marines to obtain the first victories. He resented nimitz having command of the western pacific.
As a result macarthur was frustrated with the Australians - while having no idea of the conditions they were fighting in (he visited papua new guinea once, for a few hours). Also, the Australians held him in contempt.
When US forces arrived in paua new guinea (still to come) macarthur drove them and the Australians mercilessly to take buna, gona, and sanananda but the US army forces failed miserably - which the Australians had warned him about. As a result the Australians took over most of the US army’s objectives. Driven by macarthur they eventually took those 3 fortified villages, at very high cost (which produced the first cannibalisations by japanese forces) which infuriated the Australians.
Macarthur, being an egomaniac concluded the Australians were gloating over his various failures and from then on minimised the Australian achievements in all reports, then sent them to fight a strategically pointless jungle war against the Japanese in Indonesia. Ironically, turning us into the best jungle fighting force of the 20th century.
Thanks to macarthur the true history of Australia’s part in the pacific war was more or less erased. This series is the first ive seen correcting the record.
@@tileux Yes, The American Warlord. Truly a real piece of work. Aussies most of all have reason to detest him. While he minimized the Aussies at the time to the press and operationally I can't lay full blame for the historic omissions on Dougie. In general Americans wrote the history to be read by Americans. The US media in general, like any other country, will focus on their own people. While its more natural than nefarious it certainly is something to be aware of when viewing.
@@warrenklein7817 I was thinking they should have had a platoon of Marines there so as to get some press but maybe not.
My grand father fought at the battle of Milne bay 🇦🇺
Had 2 uncles there. Lost one.
Mine too.
He died there on the 28th August.
2nd tenth.
It should be noted that Admiral Fletcher never fell out of favor with Nimitz; being able to personally interact with him, Nimitz appreciated his leadership style, and his record of victory spoke well for him. Unfortunately, Admiral King was adversely influenced by dedicated carrier officers on rotation in Washington who took every opportunity to disparage the battleship admiral Fletcher, and King himself favored much greater aggression. When he departed for the West Coast Fletcher was still in Nimitz's good graces, but once he got there King saw to his reassignment to shore commands.
Fletcher's command was competent, especially given how inexperienced the US was with combat operations, but King was right to replace him: the Marines started taking his command personally after the landings at Guadalcanal, and the Navy needed to keep being aggressive in the Pacific if it didn't want the British to get even more resources pulled for Operation Torch.
I'm curious how you know this? I mean, even it Nimitz never said a negative thing about him that doesn't necessarily mean he didn't feel someone else would be better suited to the task. There is alot of room between favor and criticism.
I'm not saying you're wrong. I have no idea. I'm just curious how we know this.
Thanks for mentioning Evolution of Evil. It's one of my favorite history shows.
Thank you for this war history. It breaks my heart to hear about those who fought in the battle of Milne Bay.
Im from Milne Bay & I live here. I've never known much about Milne Bay. I'm a young man & I want to know more about this place.
Both my grandfather's helped the Australian & American forces in WWII.
Unfortunately, no Milne Bayan has done any historical study on Milne Bay history of the town itself.
Thank you Australia & USA
Alotau Milne Bay Province
Papua New Guinea
Thanks Kevin, my grandfather died there on the 28th August 1942 and your grandfathers probably helped him.
Thanks to you and your countrymen/ women for their courage and help ❤
Hi Rob Whittker.
Will you be able to tell more about your grandfather?
I'm interested because I'm a Volunteer tour guide here in Alotau town for the Milne Bay Tourism Bureau & I'm in search of war history.
Unfortunately, I have limited information.
I need the information because I'm always communicating with tourist whenever the Tourist ship arrives into Port of Milne Bay.
Do you use WATTSUP? Do you have an email address?
Can I get in touch with you to tell me more?
Thanks
Kevin 🇵🇬
@@kevinyowait2463 hello Kevin, thanks for your response.
I hope you are well.
My grandfather was Ronald Whittaker and he was a member of the 2/10 Battalion (?) out of Adelaide Australia.
I would like to tell you more, but can I contact you via the Milne bay tourism bureau?
I don’t have a lot of information about him, but he did leave behind a wife and 2 young boys, one of whom was my father.
All the best to you and your family.
If I can confirm your details I would like to talk more.
Two tanks doesn't sound like a lot. But if your opponent doesn't have ANY tanks, two tanks is more than enough
The real problem is no anti tank weapons available. The Australian units from North Africa were experienced in dealing with German and Italian tanks.
@@warrenklein7817 Yea, if your soldiers are popping at tanks with small arms fire, 2 tanks works as good as any other amount
Interesting fact, one of those tanks is on display in the war museum Canberra.
@@warrenklein7817 yeah. That and the terrain. In North Africa, you could see a tank coming from miles and organize your defense and how to neutralize them. In the thick jungles of Milne bay, the Japanese would outflank them via the jungles, cut them off and them trap them between fox holes and the 2 advancing tanks as they routinely did. It's not a pretty position to be in.
In jungle terrain, it's mostly an infantry war. Like at the disastrous (for the Allies) battle of Slim River at Malaya. A column of 6 light tanks drove down the road and basically just mowed down the defenders with machine guns, drive-by shooting style.
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I get that banzai charges were effective in different situations, but "oh shit, they have way more firepower than we thought, let's just fucking run at them three times in a row" is one of those wtf moments
I suspect that against poorly trained units the banzai charge would be very effective. Unfortunately for Japanese, Aussies don't do poorly trained units.
banzai charges were kinda a relic that had uses in certain situations. Their biggest advantage was shocking enemy forces, making them panic if they had little discipline. After all, imagine pouring down machinegun fire into an enemy only to have hordes charging you recklessly without a care for deaths. If they actually got close, the japanese soldiers were ferocious in hand-to-hand combat, which generally wasnt a major part of training for infantry. It was more important for soldiers to know how to fire their guns than to defend themselves on the off chance an enemy could, let alone would want to, get close. So against the unskilled, untrained, practically levied soldiers in colony garrisons? Very effective. But Australia had its regulars, its actually trained army, which wouldnt be so foolish as to let the enemy get close. Machineguns can mow down a horde with ease.
To be honest, id think banzai charges were more about the ego of the japanese than being a viable tactic: they thought everyone they faced would be cowards who wouldnt put up a fight.
Interestingly, a similar idea to banzai charges is what led the Caroleans of Sweden to be the most capable military in the 1700s
Can you do a video of the Anglo-Soviet Invasion of Iran(1941) , Anglo -Iraqi war (1941), and the Anglo Invasion of Vichy Syria (Syria-Lebanon campaign) (1941), Operation Exporter in a separate video? This will clear the objective of Nazi Germany and Japan regarding Operation Orient.
Please do a video on "Axis powers negotiations on the division of Asia"
Yes thankyou
Yeah that would be good, never really seen any videos of that
ye no one really talks about that
Also Anglo invasion of vichy syria.
@@ShubhamMishrabro Thanks.
Thanks for doing this series. The New Guinea Campaign has been ignored for so long and that is a disservice for the many brave and determined Australian soldiers.
America couldn’t cope that we dealt the first land defeat in the Japanese campaign
@@justinwillingale2086 The strange thing is, I have read books and watched videos about the British in India, the Chindits, the Malaysian Campaign, and Guadalcanal. Yet, the whole New Guinea campaign is like looking at a black hole. You know it's there, but can't actually see it. I personally feel like America would have cheered the Aussies and New Zealanders kicking the Japanese around the area like a football, but a certain egotistical General, whose name rhymes with BacArthur, couldn't deal with any other person getting any credit for that. Personally, I don't know why the Aussies didn't just round up all of those damned Drop-Bears and turn them loose on the Japanese. Could have shortned the war by 2 years.
@@TheJoeysmom that’s why MCather sent the wrong information deliberately to some of our generals but we learnt from ww1 under British command not to take information even from supposed allies as a pinch of salt. When it comes to sending our men into certain death, yea that is correct McArthur made sure we were not mentioned in the history books. I knew about our victory from my grandfather who’s father when back to Brisbane after the war got into brawls with American troops lol. Well to be honest we should of gathered up the Emus that routed 100 servicemen in the emu war, might had won the whole campaign haha
the Kokoda pronunciation is still funny to us aussie's
Interestingly, they pronounce it the way it would be pronounced in Japanese.
@@s38paul it's pronounced incorrect. Same as Milne Bay and Maroubra Force are
I'm here every week for my weekly dose of history! Thanks to Kings & Generals! I actually binge watch Pacific War, finishing it in few days!
I've been watching Kings and Generals for years now, I am now in college to become a history teacher. History is my passion, and as I love this channel I hate to see it be losing views. I think most people are turned off to clicking on a video when it's on it's #42nd episode. I really like your videos and I hope you are able to continue doing them but I think most people want video series that they are able to watch in practically a day or two.
Don't worry about K&G fam, they doing better than ever by my observation! 😁👍
It seems less people are interested in these Pacific War videos. But it's still very many. Many of their newer videos are also their most popular, they won't all break the internet. 😂
I have the feeling after 4 years (!) when this series is complete. It will be watched, discovered by new history fans, rewatched by many, and loved for decades. ❤️
@@apexnext Hah maybe you are right, I hope they'll be around for a long time.
Wow, I didn't even realize this was the 42nd episode, that's amazing. This will certainly be their longest series yet, and I do hope it continues til the very end, it's up there with the Mongol Invasions, Ottoman Wars, and Early Muslim Conquest as my favorite K&G series.
Thanks
You Guys made me love history so much,❤❤😀
Keep it up🔥
19:12 Ah yes, the secret weapon, the US Space Force delta ship.
The Milne Bay victory by the Australians, lead to rioting in Australia between Australian & American soldiers as McArthur’s controlled news media made out that it was an American victory with Australians playing a minor roll in it !
sums up the entire war really
@@hashtagrex The Australians held the line extremely well and they def deserve more credit than they get but the fact is America did the real heavy lifting and slogging in the pacific to defeat Japan which is why it's remembered as a mostly American victory. Without American industrial and military might the allies would have never defeated Japan its simple as that.
@@cattledog901 your grand response to mcarthur's propaganda being called out was to spout more gibberish propaganda? and you seriously thought thatd be an intelligent arguement?
that "heavy lifting" you egomaniac americans pretend won the war were island hopping campaigns with a few hundred casualties at most. it was far from "heavy lifting." you people have no idea what war is. you have not had your cities attacked, levelled and evacuated. you did not have your homes destroyed and your nation crippled. you got rich off the suffering of millions of people, then walked in after no one was capable of fighting you and called it "heavy lifting." obnoxious propaganda fuelled rubbish will never change reality
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Eventually
@cattledog901 Australia provided the majority of the food for the allies. Without Australia, the us wouldn't last a year against the japs.
Excellent series, well done!
I am learning a lot. Thank you.
Eisenhower said something like "I studied drama under McArthur for years"
11:36 good enough island xD
Those Australians that battered the Japanese in the Milne Bay Campaign and beyond were some of the most unsung soldiers of the Pacific Campaign. Everyone focuses on the European theatre and to a less extent the western Pacific, but they have barely given note to anything that happened in the south of the Philippines and in/around Burma and South China.
I'll give this series five stars :)
Excellent video with brilliant animation. Lot of depth being provided to each story. You need to continue this series to its very end. Regards.
My dad grew up in Popendetta (visible on the map - northern PNG) in the 50/60s. As a kid he would find all the weapons and equipment left behind.
Thank you , K&G .
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turning point in the Port Moresby campaign.
My absolute favorite series, and that is extremely hard to say with how many good ones you guys already have.
The first Japanese defeat of ww2 , like Trobuk which was the first German defeat in ww2 . Common factor Australians
Let’s not forget our NZ brothers, they were just as legendary.
@@willpatchett1419 not in ww2 they werent.
@@tileuxin Africa they were
@@tileux they were. Im sure there are kiwis who can add plenty more, but the North African campaign and the battle of Crete are just a couple of examples of Kiwis punching above their weight. The kiwis and aussies were both relatively small forces but fought and won some of the toughest battles
@@georgemanifold6802 mate, its unfortunate to say this but its the facts: crete would have wiped out the german airborne division - the were on their way to a 100% casualty rate - but it was a screw up by new Zealand officers that led to the germans seizing the maleme airfield. New Zealanders then failed to retake the airfield. That allowee the germans to land tanks. Biritish amd Australian forces - who had literally massacred the german paratroops and were ready to mop them up the next morning were appalled to suddenly receive the order to abandon the island. The german commander couldnt believe his luck.
Unfortunately, the facts are the performance of the new zealanders in ww2 was fairly average. It doesnt give me any pleasure to say that but im just telling the story as it was.
What is astonishing to me, is that the Australians fought so hard...when their own supply estimates demonstrated that no force could hope to supply themselves the full distance along the track.
Port Moresby was never realistically in any danger, since the Australians could, in theory, simply retreat to the last few ridgelines before the coastal plane, and the Japanese could never supply themselves sufficiently to conduct a successful assault.
Of course, you do have to fight for it...as you never know what means the enemy will take to overcome the challenge...
The problem with a retreat strategy is that the first SNLF might be feelers. They get close to.port Moresby and they could dig in, signal for the rest of the invasion force to move in and build wider roads and bolster supply lines for the final drive. They did so in several theatres against the Brits and Americans
Another excellent and enjoyable video! Thank You!
Finally caught up. A fantastic series and I cant wait for future installments. Excellent work Ks and Gs!
Im here now from philippines.
The 'e' in Milne Bay is silent.
It's unsettling to hear how the Japanese captured Wagga Wagga. Couldn't we have just let them have it?
This is an amazing production! Despite their many evils and war crimes, the Japanese Army had repeatedly performed miracles at hopeless odds.
not this time not against the aussies
Brilliant video as always.
K&G Never miss any Allied honor nor Japanese war crimes.
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THese documentaries are awesome, you put History channel to shame!!
Clowes showed more initiative and grit than MacArthur did in the Philippines
I'm really enjoying this series!
After watching every episode in this series, Kittyhawk is still yhe most adorable name for an airplane ever 😂 sounds more like a kids toy than a fighter plane to me 😅
Thanks for this video 👍🏻
On this day 500 years ago the first circumnavigation of the Earth was completed.
@@paulfri1569 Who is you people? At least try to hide your disdain for other races. Not to mention the fact that what you said has nothing to do with the original comment.
This is getting interesting to know more about the pacific war during ww2.
The fight for New Guinea was some of fiercest combat under grueling conditions by the Aussie and Kiwi troops.
oh here we go
I am digging this series!
There's a theory that the Japanese commanders deliberately allowed the mistreatment of wounded & surrendered Allied troops; because it meant that the Allied troops would give the Japanese troops no quarter (as seen when the Australians start taking no prisoners at 7:15 ).
If you were a Japanese soldier - assuming and the Allies were legitimately going to let you surrender - you'd be so worried that the Allied troops would do to you, what your friends did to them, you'd be unlikely to even try. Which explains why many Japanese refused to surrender, played dead, used wounded Australians as target practice and all that other horribleness. The Pacific theatre was certainly not a 'gentlemanly fight'.
For a great breakdown of this dynamic, I'd highly recommend Dan Carlin's 6 part series of the Pacific War.
It’s a terrible justification but the atomic bombs were partly to do with utter hatred the Pacific Allies had for the Japanese Empire, and the total disrespect of the Geneva convention.
Yes, they did the numbers on projected troops loses trying to do amphibious landings, but those targets chosen were for population and maximum reprisals.
No, that theory - which i have never heard of - is false.
@@tileux go give Dan Carlin's 'Supernova in the East' series a listen and then chase up his sources - that's where I got it from.
I'm not a historian, just an amateur, so I never read past that casual listen (it's a podcast).
I'm open to being wrong here, but I doubt someone like Carlin would pull it out of his arse - he has a pretty solid followership of history buffs who would call him out.
@@J_Stronsky nah, its false mate. The idea that japanese officers even thought of that is ludicrous. Japanese military practice was brutal from the beginning, including to its own men. Japanese troops were thoroughly indoctrinated in that. They didnt need anything else. But also many thousands of Japanese surrendered and were captured in the islands campaigns. Its false that prisoners werent taken, although they werent usually taken by Australians or marines, simply due to the fact that it was difficult to take prisoners in the jungle in the muddle of a fight. Also, a lot of japanese forces were actually koreans and they surrendered in even largest numbers than the japanese.
My father was in the 9th at Milne Bay. He always said the Kittyhawks saved them.
Great work Thank you
Can’t help but notice the number of New Zealand flags being used in the Australian portraits
I doubt the Aussies would have wasted a bullet on the wounded Japanese. Not after seeing the evidence of the torture inflicted on their mates before they were killed. They would have used the bayonet.
you couldn't risk getting close enough to use a bayonet, The Japanese too often were holding a grenade, just waiting for someone to get close enough to blow up themselves and any enemy soldier that got close enough.
It would be a few years before officers started to impose careful rules on taking prisoners
@@flyingeagle3898 I remember a soldier fighting along the kokoda track saying that they would tie the Japanese to trees for the reserves coming up the track to finish them
Can you fix the flag behind Cyril Clowes. You have the wrong flag behind him. He was Australian and not from New Zealand. Same goes for Arnold Potts who you have also occasionally with the New Zealand flag behind him. Also, this was the first defeat of the Japanese on land, not "one of the first."
We always hear the phrase "The Tokyo Express" when we hear about the Japanese supply runs to Guadalcanal but never the Japanese name for it "The Rat Transportation." It's not a bad nickname for it.
I wonder why they called it that. 😂🐀
Amazing episode! What a brutal phase of the war for the Pacific.
Thanks!
I'd love to see a video like this on the Korean or Vietnam War after this.
very good.. im Australian and the host knows about how we contaminated supplies and killed prisoners.. most Australians dont know that
they killed them because they couldnt trust the Japanese. The Japanese would play possum and then pull a grenade out and kill everyone within range. It was dangerous to keep prisoners.
Pelloponesian war please 🙏
Please make more video about Pasific front, do not stop.
Three great powers, USA 🇺🇸, Australia 🇦🇺 and Japan 🇯🇵 are fighting huge battles over huge distances with vast resources in the South Pacific.
The island 🏝 terrain is as hostile as the North African desert or Eastern Front.
North Africa was prob the least brutal or 1940 france, Middle East campain, east Africa, or the battle of Dakar fun fact there was bombings of Nigeria yes Nigeria was bombed in ww2 Lagos
I hope you could make a videos about the Eighty years war thank you!
great content
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How many times are you going to get the New Zealand and Australian flag mixed up in this series?
its not mixed up ? Anzac was controlled by NZ as well as Aussies
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Cyril Clowes was Australian not a Kiwi hence my issue with the flag.
, 100% the Japanese used out wounded and prisoners as bayonet practise there are also reports of the Japanese eating the calfs and thighs of dead Australians on The Kokoda Track
Japanese first real land defeat was inflicted by the Chinese forces in the Battle of Pingxingguan in 1937, albeit minor in nature. Japanese second and serious land defeat was in the Battle of Tai-erzhuang in 1938. Followed by the Battle of Lake Khasan in the same year and the Battle of Khalkhin Gol and next in the First and Second Battle of Changsha, long before Pearl Harbor was attacked.
Western Allies did took sometime before being able to defeat the Japanese or at least inflicting serious setback on land battles, like in the stubborn defences of Bataan Peninsula, Battle of Tenaru, and this, Battle of Milne Bay. More land defeats were looming for the Japanese.
Those battles in 37, 38 were not in WW2
@@hardroaddavey5399 those battles were still an important land defeats for the Japanese forces.
@@xWarLegendx please don't deny Chinese contributions in the Pacific War. They pinned down the bulk of the Japanese land forces in mainland China for the entire war. They fought for the hardest and the longest. If the Chinese gave up their fight, it would be easy for the Japanese to redeploy their bulk of forces in China to fight against the Allies in the Pacific Isles and Burma.
No it was the aussies kokoda 1942.
I would love you guys so much more if you pin a comment with all the little info blurbs that you put in the corner - I can read pretty fast but I always miss part of them!
Pretty wild
Where was the Japanese advance finally stopped? Milne Bay.
Where was the Nazi advance finally stopped? El Alamein.
Not just Aussies both times, but some of them were the SAME PEOPLE.
Thanks for this. My wife’s grandfather was a kitty hawk mechanic at Milne bay. He mentioned defending an airfield and rolling into the river, so now I know which one it was 🙂
Also I know exactly how our diggers would have pronounced Waga Waga- there’s an Australian country town named Wagga Wagga 😀
The vid intro looks like fight club logo
HII KINGS AND GENERALS , CAN YOU CREATE A SERIE THAT EXPLAIN THE WWII IN EUROPE AND ÁFRICA
August 24th...what year?! Geez?!
It is all over the video. 1942
What does 2/9th Battalion mean?
You keep referring to it as the "Second Ninth Battalion".
Does that mean that it's the 209th Battalion, does it mean it's the 9th Battalion of the 2nd Regiment, or is it something else?
It should mean 2nd Battalion of the 9th Regiment, but that's the US standard. Might be different for the Australians.
@@alexdobma4694 Due to the provisions of the Defence Act, which precluded sending conscripts outside of Australian territory, a Second Australian Imperial Force (2nd AIF) was formed.[11] The battalions of this force were largely drawn out of the militia battalions, and the units of 2nd AIF were distinguished from their militia counterparts by adding a "2/" in front of the numeral that indicated the battalion.[12] The 2/9th Battalion was created from volunteers for overseas service from the 9th Battalion, although the 2/9th was independent from the militia unit, serving as a part of 18th Brigade in North Africa, New Guinea and on Borneo.[13] The 2/9th was disbanded at the end of the war, however, its battle honours live on in 9 RQR.
@@KingsandGenerals correction the 2/9th means 9th battalion the 2nd refers to the 2AIF (2nd Australian Imperial Force)
2nd Battalion of the 9th Regiment = 2/9. I think there was a typo. Could also go with 2nd Company of the 9th Battalion. Yep, I think it's the company designation. Or it's a new verse to Waltzing Matilda.
It’s stands for the 9th Battalion of the 2nd Australian Imperial Force (AIF). The First Australian Imperial Force was in WW1. Example, the 30th Battalion was 2/30 Battalion. The Australian Imperial force for WW1 and WW2 was named as such in order to separate it from the permanent military forces and militia forces who stayed in Australia as the AIF was a deployed overseas force.
Worth noting that this battle was the first time that the Japanese were defeated on land in WWII.
Hi, kings and generals Can you make a Western Front similar to the Pacific War?
What about amarican and English Evel
Algorithm booster comment, goooooo!!!!!
Why do they always use the Japanese commanders first names and not the allies commanders first names too?
And when's the scale going to make its appearance? Video 100? Maybe by the end of the war video 191?
As far as I can say, in IJA temporary units bearing the commander's name were often the official name. Akiyama detachment and Ichiki detachment are famous.
Traditionally, Japanese names have the family name first, such as Oda Nobunaga and his son Oda Nobutada. So really they are just using surnames for everyone.
If the word KOKODA started with the letter C then it would be pronounced Coc, but it has a K which makes it Ka Ko Da.
The pronunciation of place names is often wrong.
Other than that, excellent work.
It was the australians who first stopped the japenese on the kokoda track and defeated them
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Wow, está media. Rara
Show us some Battlefield V maps historical events pls
Milne is properly pronounced as: MIln as in KIln!! But definitely not as Milneh Bay!! In the same way, A.A.Milne, who wrote the “Winnie the Pooh” children’s books!
Was this the first time the Japanese were defeated on land in WW2?
Yes!😊😅😂
I know this is tangential but „Goodenough Islands“ is one goofy name.
It's also the name of the Nobel Prize-winning University of Texas professor for his contributions to the development of the lithium battery. He also seems to pronounce his name as it is written, "Good-enough".
I allways thought john wayne won the pacific war single handed.😅
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"double tap" doesnt mean what you think it means....