ไม่สามารถเล่นวิดีโอนี้
ขออภัยในความไม่สะดวก
Yamaha RX-A6A 9.2CH 8K AV Receiver Bench Test Results!
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ธ.ค. 2021
- The Yamaha RX-A6A is a 9.2CH 8K ready Atmos/DTS:X Receiver that retails for $2,200 and is one step down from their new flagship the RX-A8A. The RX-A6A has 11 channels of processing with 9 channels of built-in amplification rated at 150wpc. In this test report, I put the RX-A6A through our standard Audioholics bench tests and dig a little deeper to uncover the reasons for some of the performance issues I've discovered. We discuss the proper settings for best power delivery.
For the full written report: bit.ly/3yKsDHo
Audioholics Recommendations Amazon Shop: www.amazon.com...
Audioholics Recommended Cables:
250ft CL2 12AWG Speaker Cable: amzn.to/2vwS9QH
50ft 10AWG Speaker Cable: amzn.to/3DeMTT5
Locking Banana Plugs: amzn.to/2ZQt15x
9ft 4K HDR HDMI Cables: amzn.to/2WiIXeD
Audioholics Recommended Subwoofers:
Monolith M12 V2 12” Subwoofer: bit.ly/3EUxoA9
SVS SB-1000 Pro: bit.ly/3c0rwsf
SVS PB-1000 Pro: bit.ly/3aWzdAg
Audioholics Recommended Electronics:
Yamaha RX-A8A: amzn.to/32w6OQ4
Denon AVR-X3700H 9.2CH AV Receiver: amzn.to/31UOD3Q
Yamaha RX-A2A: amzn.to/3kUYnTS
Denon AVR-X6700H 11.2CH AV Receiver: amzn.to/38zHjMr
Audioholics Recommended Speakers:
Monolith THX-460T Towers: bit.ly/3o4QGvT
Monolith THX-365C: bit.ly/3o7fbsh
SVS Prime 5.1 Speaker / Sub System: amzn.to/2GWoFCn
Polk R700 Tower Speakers: amzn.to/3BF2wC3
Klipsch RP-8000F Tower Speakers: amzn.to/2Vd8QQn
Sony SSCS5 Speakers: amzn.to/2ndEn56
Monoprice Encore B6 Bookshelfs: bit.ly/3mU7E0t
SVS Prime Elevation Surround: bit.ly/3BV0ayz
Definitive Technology 8” In-ceiling Atmos speakers: amzn.to/2ZYAILm
Follow us on:
Patreon:
/ audioholics
FACEBOOK
/ audioholics
TWITTER
/ audioholicslive
#amplifiers #8K #hometheater
It’s folks like you that keep these products under evaluation and better designed for us the consumer.
Gene - I want you to understand something. What you do here and the hard work you expend keeping us informed on these matters is reaffirming to me and many others. You realize we are a dying breed. Integrity of engineering/construction by these manufacturers is held in check through your efforts. I realize how arduous this testing/reporting can be. I have always attached the maximum weight to every word you say. In a society that feasts on superficiality, you are a lone beacon of light for those of us who still care about deep “quality of product” analysis. Thank you my friend for sharing your brilliant expertise. You are a gem.
mdg - Mexia, Texas
Thanks for doing this video. I love listening to your explanations in addition to the written review. I hope Yamaha can fix the issues you discovered.
I've just gotten an RX-A4A and it's really very impressive. The amp only claiming 110 watts a channel, with my Monitor Audio bronze speakers is great. More than enough output. I ran it hard for 15 minutes at reference level and it was barely warm, no audible distortion attributable to the amplifier. Great upgrade over my two or three generations old Yamaha that will retire to easy duty upstairs. I do think the surround effects are improved as well watch 2049 this morning.
I just received a RX-A8A. I ordered it as a refurbished unit from Accessories4less for $2,099. It came with an included three year warranty and a pair of Yamaha EPH-M200 earphones. This thing is heavy. I have to go back to work for now, but I can’t wait to set up up later. It’s a beast. This replaces an Onkyo TX-NR809 that the HDMI board just went on. I could have probably have repaired the board, but I plan to get a 4K TV soon and the old Onkyo just won’t handle HDMI 2.0B. Plus all the new features are very cool. I like the fact that all HDMI connections on this unit are HDMI 2.1, which future proofs the new receiver for a while.
Gene, I love Audioholics and that you use real engineering measurements to judge products. I am hoping that you can review and measure a RX-A8A soon.
Keep up the great work!
Chris
Recently bought a A8A Yamaha receiver. Can't imagine finding the limits of volume through many driven channels when using it, but I look forward to your review of it in the future..
I love to see you working with Yamaha to improve their products for our benefit
Thanks Gene, great breakdown of the audio capabilities.
Hopefully the full review includes testing of HDMI 2.1 features as I've been really curious to know whether it properly handles VRR, HDR, 120Hz, etc.
Very informative video as usual. I hope you can also test and measure the Onkyo TX-RZ50, then compare it with the Yamaha RX-A6A. Thank you!
I think the onkyo is a better buy...
I can’t wait until you or someone explains/teaches how to use the parametric EQ for each speaker. Especially on the low frequency mode.
Thanks for the detailed review. I bought the A6A based on your assessment. I wish you could do another shorter vid regarding if Yamaha had addressed these issues /bugs in the firmware since this video was made? Thanks
After seeing this I am confident in my decision to buy the Marantz 8015 even though it cost more. Loving the musical presentation and with bi-amp it drives my PSB Stratus Gold I's nicely
It’s great to see you looking at distortion levels on the pre-outs. 2V doesn’t mean much if the noise floor is high. Cheers.
I'm also looking forward to Yamaha's latest version of their YPAO and perhaps a comparison with DIRAC & Audissey. The version in the RX-V665 hasn't overly impressed me. 👍
I’m glad Yamaha worked with you and listened
Hey Gene, appreciate the work! Perhaps on your charts you could hashmark our areas that are, in a reasonable assessment, outside audible to a human or having a real world performance effect? Make it simple to see what matters, and what doesn’t!
Thank you for a very thorough explanation of your testing!!! This receiver is near the top of my list to replace my legacy Yamaha RX-V571 receiver!
It's nice to see content that's actually scientific and can be proven. So much of the content available is so child like that I just stop watching it. Many videos feel like a public session with a therapist; with the licensed therapist missing. There are also so many "experts" that obviously don't know much about the subject they're talking about... It's quite refreshing to see real, tangible results.
This is a kick-ass analysis, and some good advice to boot. Thanks for doing this.
Another great bench test review. Thank you for doing these Gene!! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!!
I have this receiver on order in Canada since August, I have been told now that they are on back order until the end of March, I decided that I can't wait that long so I have ordered the Anthem 1140 and will come in about 2 weeks, after watching this review I now believe what happened was for the best.
Did you get the receiver and how did you like it?
I'm not a fan of surround sound receivers, so I can't comment on this model. I have never heard a brand, including "boutique" brands that I like more than Yamaha. The Yamaha two channel integrated amplifiers that I have heard sound amazing, everyone that listened to them was stunned and wanted one for themselves. We put our ears right next to the speakers with the volume all the way up, and we couldn't tell the amplifier was on unless we looked at the front panel. The sound was the sonic equivalent of flying an F-22 or F-35; the sound was lifelike, dynamic; lively. The sound actually knocked books off my shelves several times without even "pushing" it too hard. The amplifier had laser like precision and was amazingly well controlled.
What yamaha amplifier model are you referring to?
Great work Sir Gene... Most thorough. Keep the Manufacturers on top of their designs.
Thanks Gene! Mine is getting delivered today, been on back order since August.
I did a home side by side trial of the RX-A6A, Arcam AVR20, NAD M10 v2 with the Powernode driving the rear surrounds. I kept the Yamaha and sent the others back. All three were very good but I thought the Yamaha sounded the best.
Another great job Gene always enjoy your bench tests and reviews of products. Your thorough and honest reviews and bench tests is one of the reasons I went with my Marantz SR-8012 receiver.
Post any updates on any improvements in new firmware/feedback from Yamaha you get too please. Thanks for this review too.
My sound system consists of 6 SVS Ultra Bookshelf speakers (2 for the mains, 2 for the side channels, and 2 for the rears), an SVS Ultra Center speaker, 4 SVS Prime Elevation speakers ceiling mounted for Dolby Atmos and 2 SVS SB-3000 Subwoofers. The system is powered by a Yamaha Aventage RX-A8A 11 channel AVR with an AC Infinity AIRCOM T9 keeping it cool, and all are connected to a Panamax M5400-PM Power Conditioner.
Yes yes I've been waiting to hear Gene's thoughts on this bad boy Merry Christmas my friend
Too bad that they're still having this issue on the new line of products when you identified a similar problem on the CX-A5200
Thanks for the review! Look forward to the final evaluation. Have been planning to buy one, but supply issues still preventing that. Will use solely for blu-ray (Oppo) dedicated home theater use with 7.1.2 system SVS speakers - (MTS/MCS/MBS). . . . edit: First was drawn to the Yamaha to replace my wonderful old 55-pound Onkyo TX-NR3007 (no HDMI 2.1, Dolby Atmos, etc.) because I read that Onkyo was bankrupt. But after hearing Gene comment on the Yamaha issues, I discovered that Onkyo survived and is selling the new TX-RZ50. That now seems a better choice, while also supply constrained. Hopefully Gene will compare.
Yes I’m wondering lol, great video Gene big thumbs up 👍
Thanks for the awesome for testing and all the awesome info!
I wonder how many watts each channel gets at 9 channels driven...??? Great video love it, more please
Happy new year. Thanks for the test report. As a RX-a3060 owner the new replacements seem to be a step back as far as all channels driven are concerned. I would like to know what are they thinking on this as most people who buy a 9ch AV receiver will have the intensions of using it multi channel. From a two channel point of view you don't need 500w a channel to get decent volume from most good speakers. But you do want the two channels to be balanced and this should be the same on a multi channel amp, all telling the same story. This is a good of example of Newer not better.
Well appreciate all the details on this Gene . We have the older Yamaha preamp based on your review .
Hi Gene: Hot Rod here again. I am ready to bite on the Yamaha A6A very soon. It is now 1/1/23 Has Yamaha let you know if they have fixed or improved on any of the glitches / bugs that you found with this receiver? Do you think firmware updates will alleviate some of the issuers? Thanks, and have a good New Years
very happy with this AVR
Great review Gene, very detailed, but this being a 9.2 channel AV receiver why stop with 7.1 channel tests? Did you do any Dolby Atmos 9.2 channel testing, and what were your impressions?
More important question, how does it sound?
But the most important question is... How Yamaha sound compares with Denon flagship or the Marantz 8015?
When does the full review come out?
Yay, the room is looking lovely and tidy, Gene. Well done! :-)
It’s making it easier to focus on the content. Hehe. :-))
Thanks Gene from another excellent review. Just broke my Audio Azur avr and this Yamaha could be the one. Seems that whole world is waiting new units to appear. Hope that units will ship soon to Finland. Planning to run dsp Genelec(8330A and one 7360A) set thru preouts. Hope that new units have been fixed what comes to HDMI 2.1 issues with 4k/120 and 8k. If you have a chance try to get Genelec dsp models to test those would rhyme nicely with your name 😅 (You don't believe what those Genelecs can do)
Thanks Gene, I have mine on "pre-order "
Thank you for your work and being the audioPOLICE.
I wonder how the ARCAMS perform and if they are worth twice the money.
Thank you again and MERRY CHRISTMAS 🎄…..
Any idea when the CXA5300 is coming out
14:13 Cool! Thank you for the Subwoofer measurements! 😎👍 Greetz from 🇨🇭
Great job Gene!
Sweet episode bro!
Nice review, was hoping this receiver would be better than Marantz; looks like its not the case. However ,Yamaha looks is impressive as well their power supply I will not buy Marantz because the have raises their prices an have had the same look for years.
Thanks for making this very informative assessment video.
I have this receiver , in a 5.1.4 the five base channels I am using external amps , the receiver is running the top four channels ,this has a more detailed sound then my old Yamaha RXV-3079. overall I am happy with the A6A . It will be interesting when the up dates for the HDMI come through to see how much better it will be. Thanks for the great Video, Gene
Hi, I am also the owner of the RX A6A, could you tell me if you managed to configure the YAMAHA AV Controller App? It would seem that it is not yet compatible with this RX A6A.
@@lucarizzi1411 Hi, I have not tried the App yet good luck.
did you test bit transfers on the HDMI? That is becoming more and more important as time goes on, the higher the max bit rate, the better the audio and video bandwidth can be achieved. This is especially important in 4k twitch gaming where the new standard is 40gb/s from display port to to and from GPU and monitors.
Gene = Legend
What ever happened to the bench tests for the rx-a3080 avr? It's like that generation of avr got completely skipped over. Would love to know how the 3080 compares to both the a6a and the a8a if your still able to bench test the rx-a3080 this far out.
I would like to know that too
I know this is an old report, but still have a question @Audioholics if the measured performance of the A6 or A8 is better or worse then the Marantz Cinema 50 or 40. And besides measurements, which do you think which sounds better with large 4 Ohm speakers (stereo music and/or surround with movies)
How are all of you liking the RX-A6A? I'm finally upgrading an older yamaha rx-v3900. I don't know if I want to stay with Yamaha or...Onkyo RZ-50, Marantz Cinema 50, or Denon AVR-X4800H. I like to tinker with audio setups, I like that Yamaha gives you PEQ on every channel. I'm wondering how DIRAC sounds, though. I have Polk reserve 700 running full range and 2 subwoofers. (rel ht 1205 mkii) I listen to Music and 5.1 music and live concerts more than movies. I've always enjoyed Yamaha. I have heard the RZ-50 and was really impressed.
Hello, I'm still very much enjoying my yamaha rx-v3800 but wondering about the this A6A receiver.
How did you get on?
@@okcyurwin I ended up purchasing a Anthem AVM70
And like another viewer mentioned, as a rx-a3080 owner I'm still not able to confidently adjust that weird parametric eq that yamaha implemented in these avrs. Can you do a nice video teaching us newbies how to properly navigate and operate that eq? If it was like the old school 9 or 12 band eq it would of made more sense for my little mind lol.
I was searching for a video like that too but I run into a video where they say you shouldn't be messing with the EQ unless you're an engineer or you know what you're doing. If you find any video about it please send me the link, thanks.
Yamaha should go back to what made Yamaha the High End receiver to buy Z1 and of course the Z11 and power measure with all channels driven 20hz 20kHz .
Cheers and happy Christmas 🎄
Are you still planning on doing the final review on this receiver?
Excellent Review😀, but PLEASE, PLEASE, review & give us a Subjective Review of Yamaha's myriad Soundfield programs, especially for music sources! I still use the venerable DSP-A2070 for the Vienna, Boston, Amsterdam Halls & various Churches, Jazz Clubs, & contemporaneous Venues for my Classical, Choral, Jazz, & Acoustic Recordings. Even my Symphonic Metal & Classic Rock have their due. Reviews with your Experienced Ear would gladden my Heart & perhaps open my wallet. Mahalo😍
I wonder how this would compare to the Arcam AVR20 or the NAD T778?
So why not make a Pre-Pro version of this receiver and junk the amps?
I was going to get this amp but decided to get an extra power amp to add to my existing aventage receiver instead…Yamaha have been so vague about the hdmi update that it put me off….I did however get huge gains from adding the external amp so I’m a happy camper for now.
Would you share what power amp you added? Thanks!
I’m in the same boat, would you share what amp you got.
Thanks.
@@mzhou05 I bought the iota avxp1 7 channel power amp…
I'm interested in purchasing the A6A too. But I also have concerned about their so-called future updates 4 hdr10 plus support. I currently have the 3040. I upgraded my main tower speakers and wanted more power to feed them. I purchased a parsaound A23+. Using the Yamaha 3040 as a pre for my two front Mains with the parasound is rocking it. I love the results very clean and powerful sound. I'll upgrade my Yamaha when they fix their issues
Very informative, thanks
Hey Gene, I'd like to bring to your attention something I discovered whilst using an external amp, and also using pure direct...IT IS HORRIBLE!! I don't know why, but using an external amp on my Yammy avr sounds much better NOT using pure direct, so much so that I'm considering taking out my NAD power amp and going back to standard so I can use pure direct
I wonder if the SINAD issue was fixed and if you manually disconnected the amps and ran the unit as a pre-amp how the poor SINAD would change. I can go below 70 SINAD and spend over 1g.
THAT’S the ONE I’ve been looking to buy…when I can…..looks like a long time still.
Gene, I just check the power tests of the RX-A6A and compared it to the RX-A3000 you tested in 2010. It appears that the nanny function has gotten worse as the 7 channels driven 1 kHz Psweep was 65 wpc in 2010 and 52 wpc today at 1% THD+N.
It also appears while still low that the THD+N of the power amp section is 10 X higher today than it was 10 years ago when you measured the RX-A3000.
Do you have any thoughts on this?
Damn I just checked my old measurements and you're right. Yamaha has some work to do.
@@Audioholics replacing the 3000 this doesn’t sit well with me. Plus Many features DOA. I’m paying a little more for the revised marantz 8015. Thanks Gene for doing what you do. Been listening since axiom to aperion and now picking up the arendals 1723 thx. Thought hard about the perlistens but maybe next time
@@gaurd3 The Marantz SR8015 is king. BIG upgrade going to the Arendals from what you had before. Happy holidays.
@@Audioholics Happy Hollidays.
Yes thanks a lot for this.. I think I will have to wait for a shoot out between this and the Denon and Marantz products.. It will be interesting if you find much difference between this and the av8a.
Which one is better?!?!?!?!?!?
The denon 4700h or the A6A. The difference is 300 bucks. Just ordered 8000f,600m, 504c two r-112sw and 500 sa. Which receiver would you buy if you have to choice
Good review. Thanks Gene.
It seems a focus on 2 channel performance is rapidly becoming as obsolete as a focus on mono/single channel. Most movies are now Atmos and even music is streamed with “spatial” ( 5 channel) audio. Apple did a great comparison of mono vs stereo vs spatial and each step up made an enormous listening difference.
Would love to see a bench test on the problematical new Sony ES receivers
Thanks Gene! I have a RX-A4A.
Does it slam when u push the limit? I'm about to buy it too. I have the Polk R 200s and a sub. I hope it sounds good.
I learn so much from you Gene 🧬 ! Thanks!
Been waiting for this a long, long time :) (in a galaxy far away?)
can the issue with power being throttled be solved with a software update if Yamaha chooses to? or only in a new receiver in 2023 or 2024? ??????? I want a LOUD, LOUD, LOUD!! 3 zone receiver, thinking this ain't it? have to go to Denon or Marantz??
I have the 2040 and ordered the A6A. I am going to move the 2040 in to our living room and put the new A6A in my theater room.
tell me how it sounds? planning on getting one this week combining it with Tone winner amp
According to these numbers sounds to me like your best off at least getting a seven channel external amplifier and maybe just running your four heights off of the internal amplifier as far as cost comparison you know versus just buying a big 11 channel amplifier sounds to me like that will be the best bang for your book in the end with this receiver
I did try the extra bass with small speakers on yamaha, and it does make a good difference; it doesn't distort, but if you have a good powerful sub; it creates too much base, so for me I would rather turn up my sub; and hear more voice and sound effects detail in the surround in ceiling speakers.
I can't wait to buy a used one of these in 2-3 years. lol
The 4 ohm setting should be hidden way down deep into the menu system, and before getting there you should be presented with a warning sign, similar to the Grip Reaper signs that they put at the entrance of underwater caves:
STOP
PREVENT THE DEATH OF YOUR AUDIO QUALITY!
GO NO FURTHER.
FACT: More than 300,000 AVR owners, including audio engineers, have killed their audio quality in menus just like this one.
FACT: You need training to dive into this menu. You need electrical engineer expertise and measuring equipment to menu dive.
FACT: Without electrical engineer expertise and measuring equipment, your audio quality can die here.
FACT: It CAN happen to YOU!
THERE'S NOTHING IN THIS MENU WORTH KILLING YOUR AUDIO QUALITY FOR.
DO NOT GO BEYOND THIS POINT.
I've still yet to find something worth replacing my onk txsr876 as a pre, initially it was my power too, with an outlaw 770. I still run a 1080p kuro also.
great video gene
Gene - does it matter what firmware you measure these on? Just asking because i'm up to date and would love to know if they incrementally fix some of the issues you find.
I have the latest FW for my testing as of 12/19/21.
São problemas básicos se! Importância alguma logicamente básicos normalmente todas as marcas seja do que forem os têm tal como nós humanos
Thanks Gene I was waiting for this.I wonder what the Yamaha guys would say now with these results of such low power in Multi Channel mode which is why I think most folks would purchase this.So is it going to be Marantz,Onkyo or pony up for an Anthem Ugh
Hi Gene: My middle name....... Love your reviews even though a lot of it is still beyond me. I've been reading a lot about the new Marantz Cinema Line and hope you do some reviews on those 3. I especially am leaning towards the 40 as it is the only one with some of the old connections that I never use anyways. Still like to hook my vintage stuff up to my main receiver. Have a good New Years. Hot Rod
how does it generally compare to Yamaha A4A
Great update, use pure direct and 8 ohm settings and use it as a pre amp with all out board amplification and a DAC like a Topping D 90-- that seems like it would rock it all!?
Gene, wouldn't Yamaha know about the digital full scale HDMI distortion being higher before they released this unit? That said, would you be able to hear the .5% distortion in the center and surround channels and for the same price would you get this or a different receiver?
How to connect two subs......... I see a sub 1front and a Sub rear? help thanks.
Hello, i think ,we all thought that you gonna have this A6A a Full Review, have been a couple of months, now !!, Still haven't seen you make a full Video Review on this system and some other channels already did
I have a lot going on at once and NO other channel is capable of finding the measurement issues I uncovered. That delayed my reporting for 2 months in hopes Yamaha could fix some issues I found. Testing YPAO next and will give a full review then.
So you’re saying we should set it on low?
😂
(set it on high) LOL
Gene crushing it as usual.
Do you ever actually use these AVRs to watch a film or listen to music or do you just run them over your test gear?
Hi Gene!
I can not find any info about the bench test of RX-A3080.
I would like to change my old RX-V3067 ,but im afraid a bit, because i have read that from someone else, it is not measured very wel. I would like to very appreciate your advice!
Thanks for the information looks like Yamaha made a receiver that has xlr and you can actually hook up a pro audio amp too without worrying about the voltage output I just wonder if any other manufacturers do this with there receivers? and that have a good pre amp section if you can shed some light on it that would be great
Please keep us abreast if & when Yamaha addresses these issues......I just bought this receiver. I am thinking about getting a pre-amp for my center, left & right speakers. Maybe an Emotive Gen 3. Would like to know if this is a good idea? Any input would be appreciated
ditto