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We are going to select 50.000 4 week old Sanke at the Marudo koi Farm. In this video you will learn how young baby koi are selected and in which way the Japanese Koi breeders decide to select or not select certain Koi.
The Sanke successfully growed to around 3 to 4 cm in size in the last 4 weeks. This is the moment where the first senbetsu can be performed. Senbetsu is the name used in Japan for the selection process of Koi.
Why actually is a breeder selecting his Koi?
The answer is really simple. The breeder doesn’t have enough space to let all Koi develop under the best circumstances. For that reason he needs to select his Koi. Only the ones that have potential in his of her eyes will be selected. Less Koi in the mud pond means better development, better growth and less risk for diseases. And why would the breeder spend time and feed koi that he never will be able to sell to clients? So it makes sense a breeder is only selecting his best Koi.
For these really small Koi, body posture is not the most important factor to select the Koi on. While for larger Koi the body counts for at least 50% during the selection process. For now, since the baby Koi are only 3 to 4 cm in size, body is just a rough indicator. Even the breeder doesn’t exactly know how this will develop in the next upcoming weeks or months.
Selecting baby koi is not something that is extremely difficult
Everyone is able to learn the aspects where you have to select the Koi on. The difficult is that each variety of Koi has their own selection process. Kohaku for example, white Koi with a red pattern are selected differently than Showa which are black koi with a white and red pattern on it.
There is only one good way to learn and understand how to select baby koi properly, and that is sharing time together with the breeders. Not just for a single day, but for periods of time, selecting different varieties, asking questions to the breeders, and trying it by yourself.
Sanke selection
For Sanke selection, Koi with a white skin and a red and black pattern. Every potential small baby koi that does have some kind of pattern is selected. In the first round it doesn’t really matter at all, as long as a pattern is visible and the Koi is complete and healthy. With complete I mean having two eyes, a pectoral fins, a tail, and so on.
Kohaku selection
Also for Kohaku selection, pattern is the most important thing to take into account. It is all about the technical aspects of the pattern. Some basic technical aspects are for example that the red pattern does not cover the entire head, and at at the time the head should not be entirely white. The nose should be white, and there should be white visible around the head. Preferable the red pattern lays between the eyes. The last part of the body, just before the tail, should be white as well. Fins should not be covered in red colour, including the tail and dorsal fin.
That doesn’t mean if one of the baby koi does not match these criteria that they won’t be selected. For the first rounds it is ok if not everything is not 100% matching the technical aspects
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When the guy said: "I'm a koi dealer" the first thing that crossed my mind was him with a huge trench coat in a alley whispering: "psst, hey kid, want some koi?"
Haha 🤣
I mean why not?
I will love to have one of the non selected.
There are surely some great Koi in there. It is fun to grow some of these out!
Me also
I can understand :)
The food will make a big difference as time goes..
@@gylourdmsn1373 yes, there is hobbyst and breeder that a very different in mind just like company and Consumer. The breeder works for the best show and the hobbyst at others side ready to accept with love
Very easy to understand. Thank you! I am having a hard time identifying my baby Koi, let alone, identifying what colour patterns are good. This made it very clear to me. Awesome video.
Great to hear that! Hopefully you identified the varieties and what characteristics to pay attention for. Glad it helped you out. Thanks for your comment!
Im just a fish keeper and Im like the breeders when it comes to picking koi, hunched over a bunch of koi and picking out potential individuals that will bring me joy and peace as part of the family. I always ask for a net and a couple of basins just to pick the koi I want, sometimes at 20 at a time and only picking 4 or 5 as my pets. I always look at pattern, body composition, proportions if need be, and how well they swim.
Definitely enjoyed this! Just shows you what amount of effort the breeders have to go through to get those few hundred "good" koi. Hopefully you can get more videos on the next few stages all the way to a 2 year old or something.
Exactly, a lot of work for the breeders. Just for a few good ones... You can surely expect more video's with detailed information about these topics. Very glad to hear you enjoyed this video, thank you!
Koi
What happens to the ones they don't keep? Do they offer them up for sale or let other breeders take a look at them or they justLet them go?
2:49 that tadpole looks top notch
Sharp eye, unbelieveble it is not selected!
good catch!
😂😂😂, they're intruder
Enjoyed the video!
Glad to hear!
That was very informative. Thank you so much for sharing all of this video with us all.
You are so welcome! I am happy to hear these kinds of comments, thank you! 😀
Shutely I liked the video! Can you make in the future a video selecting kohaku more detaliated? Great video! Keep going!
Sure thing, more videos will be coming related to selecting & senbetsu in Japan! Thanks!
AboutKoi great! Thanks for your quik answer and implication! Keep going! God bless you!
VERI NICE KOI NO1
Thank you sir, glad you enjoyed this video!
I like your video ❤️
❤
Very informative, very enjoyable watch. Thank you. Can you do a similar video on Showa
Hi Steven, thanks for the compliment! More video's will follow for sure! Including Showa later on!
There is a video available now on what to look for when selecting a Showa: th-cam.com/video/yu2KdtcgO8k/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for this video! I learned a lot!
Thank you! Happy to hear that!
Great video, I would love to see a goshiki simbatsu series from the first to last.
A video on selection of baby Goshiki will surely follow later! Thanks for your reply and hopefully you are having a good time! 👍
Thank you. Very insightful video. I subbed!
Thank you Ed! Great compliment. See you in the new upcoming video's 😉
What happens to the baby koi that are not selected in the first round? , Are they destroyed , or sold as feeders or in bulk to people who may want to purchase them?
And in which months do they normally start the selection process after breeding.
Hi, that perhaps is a little bit sad to hear. But as you mentioned they are 'destroyed' in the first round. Many will become fishmeal. The month of selection is depending on the breeding date. For Gosanke (Kohaku, Showa, Sanke) first selection round is after around 4 weeks. First selection can take place in around June for early breeding or even end of september for late breeding in August.
So cruel and disgusting practice to kill so many fish to breed designer fish for pond decorations.
@@bonjovirocks24 Typically Japanese, the shiny appearance is always hiding a dark side.
Nice Video , Please make a video about culling Hi- Utsuri and Shiro , thanks
Thanks! More selection video's will surely follow!
Do the Marudo Koi Farm allow a person to come to the first selection to join them. Not to help selecting them, but to select out of the Fry they are froing away. To purchase some "non selected" Fry, and a couple of 1000's.
It was a very good video about Koi. Can you make a video how to identify male and female koi's.🙏
Hi there, I've a video for you that will explain all differences and how to identify male and female Koi. You can watch it here: th-cam.com/video/aXextLLdm8M/w-d-xo.html
Hi koi keepers from here phillipines
Probably! Many other comments from your country
i learn a leason in the future i will used this information
Great! Thanks for your comment
thank for sharing your experience
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it 😀
@@Aboutkoi lovely fish
This is very informative video, We have now a glimpse on how Japanese master breeders breed their koi fish
Thank you, that is what we wanted to share with all of you!
@@Aboutkoi You're welcome, This is my dream also having a koi farm. I have a koi farm but it is just a small koi pond. My mud pond is small also
Sounds nice! Are you also trying to breed Koi?
@@Aboutkoi I am already breeding koi fish for years just natural breeding not artificial the problem is I don't have enough tanks and other facilities to breed large numbers of koi fish, electricity here also is expensive so I just limit the number of koi fish to raise
This is my mud pond th-cam.com/video/HRDqlNFZD1M/w-d-xo.html
I would like another vid just like that but maybe a different type one f koi
Hi Andrew, surely more will follow! Did you already see this the video about breeding process in Japan? th-cam.com/video/G0Brx-M4z6M/w-d-xo.html
What happened to the other koi's that did'nt selected?
It depends on the breeder. Some breeders will keep the Koi that were not selected. They will keep them during the winter and grow them up to sizes of around 7 to 13 cm and sell them all over the world as low quality Koi for a cheaper price. Others will completely discard the ones that were not selected. So after all it all depends on the breeder itself.
It looks like they're just killing them. It's a business, I get that. But as a fish keeper it doesn't sit well with me
Mantap!!! Bagaimana caranya mau beli baby koi???,& Berapa rupiah + ongkir ke Indonesia baby 20 ekor.? Mohon di jawab ya.!.
Love koi best job
Koi 🏆
And what happens to the fish that are not selected? They kill them or what?
The fish that are not selected ( Class A )
It depends on the breeder. Some breeders take them apart and they are being sold during the winter period. Usually they range in sizes from around 7 to 10 cm. They are sold as low quality Koi. For other breeders that can be different, they indeed discard them completely. It all depends on the breeder and the available space the breeder has available.
For some breeders they become a low class Koi, for other breeders these are completely discarded and not sold.
@@Aboutkoi I see! Humanity at it's best as usual.
Easy to understanding. Do you know where to buy important Japanese’s koi fry online?
Hi there, honestly I would personally not buy Koi directly online. Would always prefer to see them first, how they swim, are they healthy and so on. I would suggest to find a local store (with knowledge) 👍
AboutKoi thanks for the tips but I ordered baby koi fry already I had they about 1.5 week now they are very healthy and growing fast, only two die so far and I change water every 3 days and filter. It’s on my channel.
Hi there, that's great that it worked out to get some baby Koi! Cool project to grow them out and follow their developments over time. Enjoy and good luck!
Hii
Are the koi
Green koi
Are the pigmen in the koi have
Thank so much
WHat do they do with the fish NOT selected?
Nice video.. Love koiiiiii
Koi are beautiful!
Such cute babies!
yes!! And awesome to see to grow them up
are the koi that are not selected will be descarded? or what will they do to other koi that are not selected?
Most of the koi that are not selected are discarded during the first and second selection round. In the rounds after many breeders do keep them for a longer period and sell these later as 'lower class' koi during winter or in early spring.
What happens to the rejected ones
That depends on the breeder. Some take them apart and grow them a bit larger to sell them during winter as low quality/class Koi for a low price. Others discard them completely
Great video. Good info.
Thanks for your comment and thank you for your compliment!
Wow great
Glad you liked it! 😃
Watching thousands of fish killed is great??
Thanks
Goed video
Dankjewel!
Was that a tadpole?
Yes!
Wow selecting koi for modpond
Most of these will be released again in the mudponds indeed
So, where do the rejected babys go?
What happen to the ones that are not selected?
Hi Michael, some breeders in Japan take apart the Koi that are not selected. However, many baby koi will also become fish meal, as it is simply not worth the effort for the breeders to grow them out. Also they oftenly do not have sufficient space.
what happens to the culled koi? are they killed or sold as food for cichlid breeders?
Hi, it depends on the breeder. Some breeders do take the fry apart to grow them up to about 7-13 cm and sell them around winter time as lower quality and cheaper Koi. There are also breeders where the culled Koi become fishmeal.
Amazing..
Thank you!
Beautiful 👍👍
Thank you! Cheers! 👍
very beautiful koi fish in janpen
For sure some great fish over there!
What happens with the koi that are not selected though?
Hi Andrew, there are some breeders that are taking them apart and will sell them as cheap Koi. However, for most they will become fish meal. The breeders do not have enough space to grow them out and have to carefully select only the best ones each round in order to give them the best conditions for growing out.
They kill them 😱 why cant they sell them to pet stores ??
Some do, others don't. I think for many the costs are too high to grow them up, they have to be selective and strict.
Sarah James i think it also has something to do with business. Why would someone pay thousands of dollars for a fish when they can just get a similar looking one for a fraction of the price. Its to keep their products as exclusive as possible so people will continue to pay those high prices for it.
I love how they cull im a koi hobbyist from the philippines
Nice, Koi Hobbyists from all around the world! 😃
Nice video keep goin bro👍
Thanks! We will, every week new video's 👍
What do they do with the non selected ones?
That depends on the breeder. Some breeders try to grow out all of their baby koi. They take them apart and sell them as cheaper koi after the summer. Usually these Koi are sold when they are still small, like 7 to 10 cm.
Other breeders discard them to give more space for their better selected Koi, in order to give them the best circumstances to grow out as fast as possible.
What happend with the non selected KOI?
That depends on the breeder. Some breeders take them apart to grow them a little bit larger, like 5-7 or 7-9 cm and sell them as lower class Koi. Others completely discard them.
Great video
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it
Это большой труд! Вы молодец!!
Great video i have three baby kois in my 80x40x40 tank and are like 9 cm but how old are they? I hope you have a answer greatings maurice proud baby koi owner edit: i also subscribed
That is great! Are they from last year? They are probably from last spring or summer. So perhaps about 6-9 months old. But I can't be sure of course 👍
@@Aboutkoi ty for the helping comment👍 youre a really underrated youtuber and im sad you dont have 1 million subscribers
@@Aboutkoi i have a another question too ive got 1 baby tancho he is fully white and has a black dot what type of tancho is he
Haha, well thanks for this compliment! Nice to hear
Entirely white koi with only a dot on the head? I'm honestly not sure if that is a real variety. Or is it a normal Tancho Kohaku (white with red dot on head) with within the red dot also black visible? In the last case it might be a Tancho Showa or Tancho Sanke perhaps.
How old are koi children usually selected by the boss?
That depends on the breeder. But the first selection usually already starts at around 3 tot 4 weeks old.
What do they do to the unselected kois?
That totally depends on the breeder. Some breeders do take them apart and grow them up to sizes of around 7-13 cm, they will be sold to basically anywhere in the world as low quality Koi. Other breeders completely discard them
What happens with the rest?
What happens to the rest.
That is something fully depending on the breeder. Some do take them apart and grow them out to a size of about 7-10 cm. During winter time these Koi are then sold as lower quality Koi for a cheaper price. Other breeders do not have sufficient space and discard them.
0:53 or 6:01 on right bottom, will give u a good idea. I've also been curious and try to find a video that is informative. Finally found this one.
@@Aboutkoi discard meaning killing the fishes or just throw them away?
@@moncart99 kill of course
Good subjects..I need a half size koi .any possible to deliver to India...
Hi Tony, unfortunately we don't sell any Koi. We are a source for Anything you would like to know about Koi! 😃 Hope you enjoyed!
@@Aboutkoi its ok thank'q....sir
Enjoyed that, thanks 👍🏻
Glad to hear! Thanks
What happens to the ones that are not selected? They go to petsmart or something?
That depends on each breeder. Some breeders do take them apart and grow them out for a little bit larger, usually about 7-13 cm and then sell them during autumn or winter time to anywhere around the world. Other breeders completely discard them since they do not have the facilities, or do not see any value in keeping their unselected Koi. Hope that answers your question!
@@Aboutkoi It does thank you. I live in North Carolina in the US. We have Blue Ridge Koi semi locally, They are a pretty large supplier. I keep trying to guess who the chain petstores order their fish from. Its not like important or anything, just something to know. I could see if you were gonna grow out some that you plan on selling for decent money when they are bigger and sending the less choice fish to a big chain to be sold for 8.00 a pop.
Banyak. Luar biasa
Many indeed! The more, the better for the breeder to select from 👍
Hello my friend, I enjoyed your video. Keep a good meeting 🥂🤝😍👍
Thank you! Im glad you did enjoy it. Stay safe and take care!
@@Aboutkoi 😍😍👍
Very nice
Thanks, hope you enjoyed and learned something!
Excellent 💗💗💗
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed 👍
They're killing millions of koi not selected..guess you missed that part.
Love it
Great! Thanks for your compliment 👍
What hapends fot those who are not selected ?
Most 4-6 week old Koi that are not selected will become fishmeal... a little sad to hear probably. A few breeders do take them apart though.
Look at 5:59, the white bucket bottom right corner...
So what happened to the ones that weren't selected 🤔
That depends on the breeder. For some, they get discarded. Others seperate them and grow them a little bit larger (5-10 cm or something) to sell them as low class Koi to anyone who is interested.
To me it look all the same, i can't tell the difference besides the black or red colors
Untilll you see it with tour own eyes from close by, they are all different 😀
So they are expensive because of the amount of time and effort it takes to select them... making them expensive?
Basically, yes. Also because of the scarcity. Only a few out of the hundred thousands of baby Koi wil be of good quality. So a lot of work and effort, for just a few Koi. All costs made for the farm have to be divided over that few amount of Koi.
@Kelvynn Lee That is true as well! The more ask, the higher the price. The breeder must have a least a few good Koi though. Small Koi that are not selected in this video are not so likely to be sold for any price.
@@Aboutkoi
So it's a bit like oil... they can produce less to inflate the price?
@@fishyc150 Not sure if that will work out. The breeder has the risk other breeders will produce more though. No clue honestly :)
What crosses kohako to have a sanke fry?
From history this should most probably be Kohaku X Goshiki or Asagi in order to have Sanke
I thought shiro utsuri but it is not. Hehe tnx
Shiro Utsuri most probably comes from the Showa I would say. Not 100% sure though.
Okay thanks
I would like to know the price of those unselected koi🙂
Hi there, many breeders keep them for a while and will sell them when they reach ~7-10 cm. The prices won't be high during that time, but usually that is during the winter time. Other breeders discard their unselected koi completely.
Wait wht happens to the koi tht didnt pass the selections?
That depends on the breeder. Some breeders do take these apart and grow them up a little bit more to around 8-12 cm. They will be sold then during winter time to customers all around the world as lower quality and cheaper Koi. Other breeders do discard them and not grow them out, because they don't have enough space or it is not worth the effort for the breeder.
@@Aboutkoi oh ok thank you so much very helpful and entertaining video
Thanks for your comment! Glad to hear it was useful
What happens to the rejected fish?
Hi there, this is depending on the breeder. Some breeders do take their 'outselected' Koi apart and grow them a little bit larger. They will then be sold during winter time as lower quality Koi. There are also others breeders that discard them.
AboutKoi thank you for the valuable info
For me as a fisherman it is disturbing how they handle this lovely small fish.
I actually own about 40 fish.
The one has leg is very potential
😉 potential Grand champion!
Is it possible to ship some baby kois???
Hi, unfortunately we don't sell any Koi. We provide information about anything related to Nishikigoi!
@@Aboutkoi do you know anyone who sell??
@@f5sal988 there are many places where Koi are sold. Best place to look for is a store specialized in Koi, so they can also share some knowledge with you on keeping Koi.
What happened to the Koi that are not selected? Always curious about this.
Hi there, this depends on the breeder. Some breeders do take them apart and grow them a little bit larger, to sizes of around 7 to 10 cm. Then during the winter these Koi will be sold as lower quality Koi, they will be shipped anywhere in the world. Other breeder discard them completely, since they do not have sufficient resources or space to grow them up. In the end all (most) breeders are commercial companies, they only grow out Koi fish that are worth their time and effort.
@@Aboutkoi thank you for answering ❤️
You are welcome! Feel free to ask questions
What happens to unselected koi
What about the koi fish which are not selected??
Hi, this depends on the breeder and the stage. Some breeders do take them apart and grow them up a little bit larger to sell them. However, many will become fishmeal as a breeder does not have enough space to offer the right conditions to grow all of them out.
Thanks for the Information 👍
No problem of course 👍. Hope you enjoyed the video!
I was a Fish Hobbist and recently started Breeding and my Channel so learned something new from ur video. I will keep watching ur channel and try to implement it on my fish. Thank you 😊
That is nice to hear. You are breeding with Koi I assume? That is quite nice, good luck!
What would happen to the unselected koi? Thrown away in the garbage?
It depends on the breeder. Some breeders do take them apart and grow them a little bit larger, they then sell them during winter time. Usually at an size of around 7-10 cm. Other breeders discard all unselected koi, because it is too expensive for them to maintain them in comparison with the profit they could potentially make.
Where does the unselected koi go?
That depends on the breeder. Some breeders do take them apart and grow them up to sizes of around 10-15 cm and then sell them during the winter time to koi dealers and customers all over the world. Other breeders completely discard them.
Where can we get the koi they don't want?
Hi Jessica, some breeders do sell them in autumn/winter time as cheaper mix Koi.
@@Aboutkoi in where in America? Everyone sells for $75 each for a tosai and that's very steep
I'm not sure in America, I meant breeders in Japan. $ 75,- sounds quite high to me. In Europe smaller Japanese Koi start from around ~€ 10,-. perhaps you could call around to shop shops? I'm not sure honestly at what price the Koi start in the US.
I only want any of these kois
Time to start your own pond project 👍✔
what does the breeder do with uglier kois?
Wauuu
Wooo 😉! Glad you enjoyed it seems
How u know it 50k of them?
The breeders make an estimate when releasing them in the pond. Based on the number of bowls with for example approxinately 1000 Koi in it
@@Aboutkoi ok ..thanks
@@rexencatz9075 Welcome!
Well at least you can sell normal koi also bro
Of course, 'normal/average' koi can also be sold by the breeders!
@@Aboutkoi i ment to say ..Breed The Best koi's but ..Sell Those small discarded koi's ..I have heard that the discarded koi's become Fish Food Or fertilizers ..so They can at least sell those discarded koi's
Honestly I don't think there will be a lot of market for most of the discarded ones. But some breeders do try to sell them. I think for most it is not worth the effort.
Where they Throughout the Other Koi Fishes ? 🙄
They are in Fry ponds, so only together with brothers and sisters in one pond
Man thats sad tho one of the fish died from that selection
😢
I love it. Can i translate into my language ? Then reup on my channel, i will write source on video. Thanks.
Hello, unfortunately that is not a good idea. But I am happy to hear you like the video.
Human : selection time
Koi : fvking racism
Wth happend on the bby koi.. Not selcted?
Hi, some breeders take them apart. Most take them completely out of the running. It is depending on the breeder.
They kill them.
It looks like they dump the unwanted ones on the ground.??
@@britecrystal in a white bucket with no water looks like. so sad
so where do so called rejects go? do they sell it for a cheaper price?
Some breeders do sell them as baby koi. But many will become fishmeal, since it is not possible for a breeder to grow out all of them, it will take too much space and effort.
Alhamdulilah.
Hmm...?
nice video, but please stop saying "cm" nobody says that
We do here in The Netherlands 😂. I'll do my best to remind it 😉
Se necesita en idioma español
I'm not able to speak Spanish, unfortunately 😉
Con subtítulos en español mi amigo
Great! 👍
Круто
Glad you liked it!
@@Aboutkoi liked it a lot!
Thanks!