For somebody that covers recruiting for all these years, you sure seem completely lost on the current trends, in regards to Florida and Florida state. Florida doesn’t suck. They have a good roster, a future stud at QB, most of the talent is all coming back, all 5 losses are all against top 15 programs, 2 of which came against GA/Texas with our 3rd string QB, and numerous guys out with injuries. Two of those losses, Miami and A&M, were early in the season, where UF was still trying to figure out the roster, what rotations played best, especially on defense. There is no confusion as to why this is happening. Had you just stated UF doesn’t normally get recruits from that area, that would make sense. If you simply use logic, in regards to results, competitiveness, and what our offense is doing with DJ, and our current RB’s having success, it’s not that crazy/hard to grasp.
Couldn't have said this better myself, Florida has a very talented and young roster that can compete with any team in the country, the same can't be said about Florida State.
Don’t worry about these haters. This is only the beginning of their misery. We see all the moves, firing coordinators and all that. We’ve lived that phase with Muschamp. They’ve got a ton of roster spots to fill but no coaches. How is that going to work. Noles are delusional right now. Reality is setting in. Enjoy their tears. Noles tears taste like Publix Sweet Tea. Go Gatas!
@@LO_Seminoles I’m not stating that he is or he isn’t, but I like how you skipped right over everything I put out there though. I didn’t know if I’d get a response, but that’s about the response I thought I’d get.
I can't take your "analysis" seriously if you really believe Florida isn't a very good team. What an asinine statement from someone who's clearly misinformed and doesn't watch the games.
That’s what i’m saying, he’s clearly out of touch or in denial. Florida’s a young team with promising pieces coming off a huge SEC rival win, FSUs getting dogged by duke
@@LO_SeminolesI mean did you watch that game ? There was about 25 players on the IR list that day against the best defense in cfb . Or is some 3 star walk on dj lagway equivalent ? At least try to do your job and you won’t get called out on it ☠️
His UF visit tells me that Coach Surtain, his main recruiter and former coach at his high school, is going to be leaving FSU and taking the HC position at his alma mater, Southern Miss.
This just goes to show you that the old recruiting way is over. Years ago, a lifelong Nole lover/recruit would never visit UF right away just because FSU wasn't playing well right now. I graduated in 1966 and in those great days, love of the school meant everything to recruits. Now, it is about money or a coach or so, and not about the supposed love of the school. For many of us, this ruins college football! If the recruits don't come for the school why would we want to watch the Nole team with these mercenaries?? This is awful!! College football is dead as to what we liked about it.
Idk know if it's your homerism or just out of touch but florida is playing leaps and Bounds better than fsu. They went thru a rough first half of season but fought and got better, not fsu. That speaks volumes about the culture between the two. U should watch last week's lsu game and see the future is bright. Those are alot of freshman out there beating a veteran lsu, plus the generational talent . Dj lagway. Gators are 3-0 when lagway starts and finishes. Seriously man? Lol
New coaches are not going to matter. You got to have players. I'm anxious to see how many of our young guys hit the portal. Of they leave norvell got to go
are you sure you been covering college football for years? no damn kid in nation is going to want to play on a team that is 1-9 (that is why all of them are jumping ship) because he knows that another possibility, the next year it could be the same. it will take 2-3 years for FSU to recoup from this disaster for season! kids want to play for winners not losers. mike novell will not be the coach of FSU because it will take too long to get back to promise land, give him 2-3 years subpar years i can see lane kiffin! shit they need to call jimbo fisher back! UF is a little better than FSU? UF just beat 22th rank team in the nation, they are miles better that FSU.
Why is it a shock if/when recruits de-commit or portal transfers out? It's not breaking news. Everyone knows it's going to happen. Also, there was this guy named Travis Hunter who had been committed for a few years and how did that turn out?
Did this guy really say Florida isn’t any good and is barely better than FSU? You’ve got to be kidding me. Have you even watched the Gators play? They have the hardest schedule in college football history and still manage to have a winning record. If Florida played FSU’s schedule, they’d likely only have one loss, and that would be to Miami. Honestly, I don’t think Miami could even beat this Gators team right now. I get that you’re an FSU fan and feel the need to downplay the Gators, but come on-do some research before making wild claims.
@@LO_Seminoles If your argument is that we’d lose to Texas A&M, then you’re more clueless than I thought. This current Gators team is nothing like the one that faced Texas A&M earlier in the season. The defense has improved significantly, and the offense is much sharper. All five of UF’s losses came against top-15 teams. Now, please enlighten me: how many ranked teams has FSU faced this year while sitting at 1-9? Best of luck with Charleston Southern this weekend-you’ll need it.
Think about what you’re saying the Florida gate is on the up and up they got Dj Lagway. The future looks real real bright. We got a couple of five stars committed quarterback committed Office alignment committed. We look real good and a safety out of Baltimore that’s supposed to come in for a visit what Florida State got going on right now nothing fire coaches ain’t replaced them yet so yeah y’all on the down and down and you only won one game this year so how could you stick your chest out? What you did last year don’t even matter what you doing right now is what’s gonna set your program back a good seven years and I love it. Gate is gonna beat your butt in the last game.🤡🐊🐊💯
Texas would have beaten you by 70. And we were out like 20 players that game and down to our walk-on QB. Do you really think FSU would have beaten LSU or take the Vols to OT at their house or be tied with Georgia with 4 minutes left?
You just talked about Florida like you was crazy if I was a recruit I wouldn’t go to Florida State the only one one game in a conference that’s not even strong in the ACC if you put Florida in the ACC right now we went way more than one game😂😂😂
When you fire coaches during the season you will lose recruits. Remember last year when my Gators fired 2 coaches, the Dline and Dback coaches they lost several recruits. This year Florida has gotten a lot better down the stretch. if Lagway wouldn't have gotten hurt, they beat Georgia and the kids see this. It's unfortunate, but your seminole players have given up on your coach this year, but the Gator players have rallied around Napier and these recruits see that.
@LO_Seminoles That's debatable, but I will give it to you. Don't be sold on Norvell, remember he was hot garbage his first 2 years at Fsu and then he got lucky in the transfer portal. This year, his team was supposed to win it all, but this team is horrible. My point was that for some reason, Florida players rallied around Napier. He may have lost the fan base, but he certainly hasn't lost the locker room and that means something.
It’s simple fire Norvell or continue to lose everyone Billy Napier is on the hot seat and still stealing recruits and bringing in top 10 recruiting classes Norvell is a lame duck
Why do Florida Gators fans think that a 5-5 team is a "good" team? Florida is down bad. Florida went 5-7 last season. Were they a good team last season? Has Billy ever had double digit draft picks? Atkins is an opp. And, its most likely Atkins checked out early and became an opp while coaching at FSU. You go 1-9, you know you're getting fired. Norvell put his whole season on Atkins and his O line, being able the run the ball and play action off of it. The o line looked like tumbleweeds out there. Now, all of a sudden he's bringing FSU commits to Florida. Right after he got fired. He was an opp. All these fans mad about the Atkins firing are just soft and gullible.
How were the TX and TX A&M games? Ole Miss will stomp you on your home field, too. To you and all Gators fans, do you really think Billy Napier is the answer? Don't avoid the question by discussing FSU. Point blank, is Napier taking you to the promised land?
@ and yes I do. Unlike norvell who took the same process that Mullen did and had some what of quick success, I think Napier is building a program from the bottom up. It’s a new age in college football, so to build a program for sustained success it takes longer. Unlike FSU (who can’t even handle their schedule) Florida doesn’t get to play cupcakes each and every week so success is gonna look different until the program is built completely.
What do you expect, fsu fired their OC/DC with the unknown of their replacement. Not rocket science. Also rumor is UF will probably hire Atkins as an analyst. You have to look at fsu this yr as a transition yea
To all Gators fans, do you really think Billy Napier is the answer? Don't avoid the question by discussing FSU. Point blank, is Napier taking you to the promised land?
For somebody that covers recruiting for all these years, you sure seem completely lost on the current trends, in regards to Florida and Florida state. Florida doesn’t suck. They have a good roster, a future stud at QB, most of the talent is all coming back, all 5 losses are all against top 15 programs, 2 of which came against GA/Texas with our 3rd string QB, and numerous guys out with injuries. Two of those losses, Miami and A&M, were early in the season, where UF was still trying to figure out the roster, what rotations played best, especially on defense. There is no confusion as to why this is happening. Had you just stated UF doesn’t normally get recruits from that area, that would make sense. If you simply use logic, in regards to results, competitiveness, and what our offense is doing with DJ, and our current RB’s having success, it’s not that crazy/hard to grasp.
Couldn't have said this better myself, Florida has a very talented and young roster that can compete with any team in the country, the same can't be said about Florida State.
Don’t worry about these haters.
This is only the beginning of their misery. We see all the moves, firing coordinators and all that. We’ve lived that phase with Muschamp.
They’ve got a ton of roster spots to fill but no coaches. How is that going to work.
Noles are delusional right now. Reality is setting in. Enjoy their tears.
Noles tears taste like Publix Sweet Tea.
Go Gatas!
You Are What Your Record Says You Are. " Bill Parcells
Napier is not the answer. It's best for FSU if he stays in Gainesville a long time.
@@LO_Seminoles I’m not stating that he is or he isn’t, but I like how you skipped right over everything I put out there though. I didn’t know if I’d get a response, but that’s about the response I thought I’d get.
This guy said Florida is good but "not by a lot." Buddy, UF would beat us by three td's. What on earth are you actually talking about?
Florida is not good. It's not difficult to see that.
@@tessier-ashpool3462 This guy is a numbskull who clearly hasn't watch any of Florida's games
@@LO_Seminoles😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
I can't take your "analysis" seriously if you really believe Florida isn't a very good team. What an asinine statement from someone who's clearly misinformed and doesn't watch the games.
That’s what i’m saying, he’s clearly out of touch or in denial. Florida’s a young team with promising pieces coming off a huge SEC rival win, FSUs getting dogged by duke
A "very good team." Florida is not good. It's mediocre at best. Did you watch the Texas game or did you forget?
@@LO_SeminolesThat was are 3th string QB. DJ was hurt in the game before. Does FSU even have a QB 😂😂
@@LO_SeminolesI mean did you watch that game ? There was about 25 players on the IR list that day against the best defense in cfb . Or is some 3 star walk on dj lagway equivalent ? At least try to do your job and you won’t get called out on it ☠️
They look a lot better with Lagway at least they did in the Georgia game and LSU. With the third string QB yes they're bad.
Florida way..better than FSU😂😂😂
Right now no
@@andrewfanfan And how many games have FSU won in the acc😂
@@andrewfanfan I’m gonna help you out and just say don’t remove all doubt.
@ I’m sorry it was a mistake I meant to say yes
@ Gators >>> FSU
Gonna have to fire Norvell and that’s the only way we get this turned around
You could be correct
No one wants to play for loosers! Norvell has killed this FSU program and it may be years before they get over this@
His UF visit tells me that Coach Surtain, his main recruiter and former coach at his high school, is going to be leaving FSU and taking the HC position at his alma mater, Southern Miss.
Surtain says he did not interview
@@LO_Seminoles Maybe he did not
have to interview?
Because his name is DJ Lagway
I don't think that's the reason
FSU will certainly bounce back. Let them leave we'll get the ones we need. No worries Norvell is the issue. They know who they need to hire
This just goes to show you that the old recruiting way is over. Years ago, a lifelong Nole lover/recruit would never visit UF right away just because FSU wasn't playing well right now. I graduated in 1966 and in those great days, love of the school meant everything to recruits. Now, it is about money or a coach or so, and not about the supposed love of the school. For many of us, this ruins college football! If the recruits don't come for the school why would we want to watch the Nole team with these mercenaries?? This is awful!! College football is dead as to what we liked about it.
Idk know if it's your homerism or just out of touch but florida is playing leaps and Bounds better than fsu. They went thru a rough first half of season but fought and got better, not fsu. That speaks volumes about the culture between the two. U should watch last week's lsu game and see the future is bright. Those are alot of freshman out there beating a veteran lsu, plus the generational talent . Dj lagway. Gators are 3-0 when lagway starts and finishes. Seriously man? Lol
"The future is bright." Under Napier? Drugs are bad. Seek help
@@LO_Seminolestell that to Greg McElroy.
Alot of those young guys that flipping to any school still gotta wait 2 maybe 3 years before they get on the field so let them go
Wasn’t guaranteed to play immediately for FSU losing program.
Dr. Phil says, "if they'll do it with ya, they'll do it to ya." These guys will mess around with Florida and then screw them over too.
UF's rb room is stacked.. can always use another stud
New coaches are not going to matter. You got to have players. I'm anxious to see how many of our young guys hit the portal. Of they leave norvell got to go
It will be an interesting next couple of months
Forget about your incoming recruits your going to lose a lot of young ones already on the team in the portal
he took a secret visit to UF last week.
are you sure you been covering college football for years? no damn kid in nation is going to want to play on a team that is 1-9 (that is why all of them are jumping ship) because he knows that another possibility, the next year it could be the same. it will take 2-3 years for FSU to recoup from this disaster for season! kids want to play for winners not losers. mike novell will not be the coach of FSU because it will take too long to get back to promise land, give him 2-3 years subpar years i can see lane kiffin! shit they need to call jimbo fisher back! UF is a little better than FSU? UF just beat 22th rank team in the nation, they are miles better that FSU.
Saying no recruit will sign with FSU is ignorant.
@@LO_Seminoles hey keep your day job! This TH-cam thing is not your lane. Smh
Why is it a shock if/when recruits de-commit or portal transfers out? It's not breaking news. Everyone knows it's going to happen. Also, there was this guy named Travis Hunter who had been committed for a few years and how did that turn out?
You obviously either didn't watch the full show or don't understand how rarely UF is successful with South Florida recruiting. Perhaps both.
Did this guy really say Florida isn’t any good and is barely better than FSU? You’ve got to be kidding me. Have you even watched the Gators play? They have the hardest schedule in college football history and still manage to have a winning record. If Florida played FSU’s schedule, they’d likely only have one loss, and that would be to Miami. Honestly, I don’t think Miami could even beat this Gators team right now. I get that you’re an FSU fan and feel the need to downplay the Gators, but come on-do some research before making wild claims.
Texas 49 Florida 17. I watched Texas A&M smash Florida with a backup QB. I have watched several UF games. Good luck against Ole Miss. You'll need it.
@@LO_Seminoles If your argument is that we’d lose to Texas A&M, then you’re more clueless than I thought. This current Gators team is nothing like the one that faced Texas A&M earlier in the season. The defense has improved significantly, and the offense is much sharper. All five of UF’s losses came against top-15 teams. Now, please enlighten me: how many ranked teams has FSU faced this year while sitting at 1-9? Best of luck with Charleston Southern this weekend-you’ll need it.
@@LO_Seminolesupdate???😂😂😂😂😂
Think about what you’re saying the Florida gate is on the up and up they got Dj Lagway. The future looks real real bright. We got a couple of five stars committed quarterback committed Office alignment committed. We look real good and a safety out of Baltimore that’s supposed to come in for a visit what Florida State got going on right now nothing fire coaches ain’t replaced them yet so yeah y’all on the down and down and you only won one game this year so how could you stick your chest out? What you did last year don’t even matter what you doing right now is what’s gonna set your program back a good seven years and I love it. Gate is gonna beat your butt in the last game.🤡🐊🐊💯
So who's sticking their chest out? I must have missed it.
You have Billy Napier. It's dim.
Crazy that you’re saying Florida sucks, I’m looking forward to that post game video after fsu gets dumpstered.
Texas 49 Florida 17
Texas would have beaten you by 70. And we were out like 20 players that game and down to our walk-on QB.
Do you really think FSU would have beaten LSU or take the Vols to OT at their house or be tied with Georgia with 4 minutes left?
You just talked about Florida like you was crazy if I was a recruit I wouldn’t go to Florida State the only one one game in a conference that’s not even strong in the ACC if you put Florida in the ACC right now we went way more than one game😂😂😂
How many times are you going to post? Seek help.
You win one game that why
When you fire coaches during the season you will lose recruits. Remember last year when my Gators fired 2 coaches, the Dline and Dback coaches they lost several recruits. This year Florida has gotten a lot better down the stretch. if Lagway wouldn't have gotten hurt, they beat Georgia and the kids see this. It's unfortunate, but your seminole players have given up on your coach this year, but the Gator players have rallied around Napier and these recruits see that.
Napier is not the answer. I hope you see that.
@LO_Seminoles That's debatable, but I will give it to you. Don't be sold on Norvell, remember he was hot garbage his first 2 years at Fsu and then he got lucky in the transfer portal. This year, his team was supposed to win it all, but this team is horrible. My point was that for some reason, Florida players rallied around Napier. He may have lost the fan base, but he certainly hasn't lost the locker room and that means something.
It’s simple fire Norvell or continue to lose everyone Billy Napier is on the hot seat and still stealing recruits and bringing in top 10 recruiting classes Norvell is a lame duck
Why do Florida Gators fans think that a 5-5 team is a "good" team? Florida is down bad. Florida went 5-7 last season. Were they a good team last season? Has Billy ever had double digit draft picks? Atkins is an opp. And, its most likely Atkins checked out early and became an opp while coaching at FSU. You go 1-9, you know you're getting fired. Norvell put his whole season on Atkins and his O line, being able the run the ball and play action off of it. The o line looked like tumbleweeds out there. Now, all of a sudden he's bringing FSU commits to Florida. Right after he got fired. He was an opp. All these fans mad about the Atkins firing are just soft and gullible.
Florida does not suck and are WAY better than FSU. They are at least trending in a positive direction.
Lmao Florida is leagues above FSU “not by a whole lot” I felt the salt on that one 😂
How were the TX and TX A&M games? Ole Miss will stomp you on your home field, too.
To you and all Gators fans, do you really think Billy Napier is the answer? Don't avoid the question by discussing FSU. Point blank, is Napier taking you to the promised land?
@ how was your entire schedule 😂😂😂
@ and yes I do. Unlike norvell who took the same process that Mullen did and had some what of quick success, I think Napier is building a program from the bottom up. It’s a new age in college football, so to build a program for sustained success it takes longer. Unlike FSU (who can’t even handle their schedule) Florida doesn’t get to play cupcakes each and every week so success is gonna look different until the program is built completely.
What do you expect, fsu fired their OC/DC with the unknown of their replacement. Not rocket science. Also rumor is UF will probably hire Atkins as an analyst. You have to look at fsu this yr as a transition yea
FSU is in trouble. No doubting that. What's happening in recruiting goes far beyond that and it's defined throughout this podcast.
Norvell keep bringing people from Memphis this is fsu not Memphis he get all these 3 star players he can't recruit the stage is to big for him
They’re paying big money
🐊
What has Norvell really done in 5 years
More than UF has.
Flrodia is going to walk us like a dog.
UF is a much better option not even close.
To all Gators fans, do you really think Billy Napier is the answer? Don't avoid the question by discussing FSU. Point blank, is Napier taking you to the promised land?
Go Gators!
Nouvelle will never get this team back it ll take 3 yes at least he never could recruit
This dude doesn’t know shit about football or what’s going on in recruiting.
I've been around recruiting over 30 years. And, Texas 49 Florida 17
@@LO_Seminoles Besides Miami, need one team FSU has played that’s as good as Texas AM?