IR Illuminator Comparison 2020
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ค. 2024
- www.jwramp.com/news/downrange...
After testing the downrange visible signatures, we shot all the infrared illuminator devices and filmed them through an L3 unfilmed white phosphor night vision tube.
A full moon was rising to the left of the range, and had started to illuminate some of the treetops. Most of the range was in shadow though and quite dark.
Filmed at 4K in 60fps - click high-res for best quality
0:00 Intro
0:52 Streamlight TLR-VIR II
1:15 Surefire X300V
1:36 PERST-3
2:17 Armasight MSI-8000
3:00 NiteCore CI7
3:21 Surefire Incandescent
3:43 PEQ-2a
4:35 DBAL-D2
6:01 MAWL-C1+
7:19 Modlite IR-850
7:52 Fenix TK25
8:50 Sniper Hog Light
10:54 Amazon Special
11:26 Outro
If I could like this 5 times I would, what an excellent video! Thanks for taking the time to do a massive comparison like this. I especially appreciate the down ranger visible signature pics. It honestly didn’t seem like the D2 was as bad as people make it sound.
Thanks, that means a lot! I'm definitely a fan of the D2 for not having to mess around with the restricted devices.
Dude, fantastic job on this video!
WOW!!!! FINALLY-OUTSTANDING DEMO THANKS!!!!!!
Did I just find one of the best channels on TH-cam?!
Excellent! Outstanding work!
Seriously outstanding work.
Why didn't you ever take the shot? Did he end up getting away? Didn't see the wicked light A67 IR
Thank you for the comparison! I would like to see illuminates on the following: Surefire Scout M640V, Holosun LE420, and MAWL-DA.
Homeless man: wait, you want me to do what?
Dude behind camera: you want $10 or what?
What a video dude thanks for making this.
Massively helpful information. Great video.
perfect video. Thanks
why didn't I find this sooner lmao, best video on youtube
Excellent video. I guess that an IR Modlite is a viable option, which is cool.
Great stuff dude!!!
Great job, thanks! 👍😎
Spectacular composition. Mod light and MAWL are now on the to-do list.
That perst looks clean. Cleaner than the PEQs.
Awesome video!
Sick music. Any names to the tracks? Awesome demo. Thanks for this.
What specific light is the "Amazon Special?"? Thanks for this review!
Fantastic! Thanks a lot!
What size ir cap on the dbal d2? Awesome idea
Hi great video thanks for posting, was the Dbal in high power mode?
Thanks for doing this
Great job putting this video together. A wealth of information.
I was curious how a bandpass filter would work on the D2. The Surefire FM13 filter appears to slide right onto the D2 illuminator on you website photos. Did you have to modify it to fit?
amazing video
fenix tk25 ir or Nitecore Ci7 ?? Which one is better ? THZ
You can adjust the Amazon Special back a little and it will still be just as focused but will be round instead of square and won't have the striations. I've had mine for 3 or 4 years now and it's worked great for me. Not rugged like the more expensive ones but for $45 it spits out a lot of illumination, newer ones even come with a pressure switch and flashlight mount now.
Which is the specific light is the "Amazon Special"?
Could you post a link for the Amazon special one
Well done
Damn good video! Thank you. I’m just building my first NOD setup. I’m torn between a perst 4 with the modlite 850 for illumination and a MAWL. Thoughts?
I guess a perst 3 would also be on the table just not sure about investing $1,300+ into a product with questionable aftermarket support.
@@joshuafreeman4459 MAWL day long.
J.W. Ramp other than being one unit. What are some pros associated with the MAWL?
I’m in a similar boat in choosing an ir laser/illuminator. I am leaning towards the MAWL because of its versatility. It’s long range illuminator is almost as wide as the PERST at its widest. On the MAWL’s mid range setting you get the close up and distance illumination. That’s great for situational awareness. It’s also way more ergonomic. The PERST is my favorite ir laser/illuminator for under $1.5k, the mawl is my favorite for $2.8k or under. If you have the means, get the mawl.
1) How the heck is the NiteCore Ci7 so underwhelming given that it has 7000mW output???
2) How did you mount a 940nm filter to the Fenix TK25IR??? I haven't seen any filter adapters for it, nor any filters. Please do tell!!!
Check out this video, it's the exact setup used in the test - th-cam.com/video/MX-LwZ00xlo/w-d-xo.html
Can we get the laserspeed?
Great 👍
What IR Filter did you use on the Dbal D2?
One of the Surefire IR caps for their incandescent flashlights.
Nice work, great comparison 👍👍
Can you still see a civilian grade laser through the Modlite or is it washed out? Thanks for making these videos, I'm sure it takes a ton of work!
The 1100mW hot spot from the modlite May be a little too intense for a .7 mW civi laser behind 100yards. Further out it’ll be no problem
@@asomeguy3000 thanks!
👌👌
Given that visible lasers aren’t very popular for pistols or rifles, why are they common on IR setups? I’m trying to decide if I just want the Modlite IR head or a DBAL. What’s the benefit?
They make it much easier to zero your infrared laser, as most of them are slaved between Vis/IR - you can turn on your vis during the day and match it to your red dot or scope's point of aim.
Generally easier to shoot than passive aiming a red dot or holographic with NV settings (Unity Fast mounts are awesome but it still just feels different with nods on). Lasers are so much easier to see under NV than vis lasers are during the day.
amazing video. I know my opinion, but I'm sure it's quite a bit different in person. What is your opinion on best ir laser/ illuminator?
Best? Mawl for sure. If more on a budget, dbal a3. That's for a light laser combo. My 2c
By Surefire Cap on the D2 do you mean their IR filter? Is this done primarily to eliminate the red glow the D2 is known for?
V0rTeX45 exactly. Worked pretty well. Figured people would be interested. Check the blog section of my website for all the downrange photos showing red glow comparisons.
J.W. Ramp That’s awesome. Thanks!!!
@@jwramp I cannot find a blog section on your website, and typing "vortex45 ir filter" into google isn't returning anything for me. Can you be more specific? Thank you.
@@squirreltakular9049 www.jwramp.com/news/downrange-infrared-signatures
So for half the price of a mawl, the dbal d2 with the surefire filter seems to be the winner in my opinion. Would you agree? Ergonomics aside.
On what measure? It has a 600mW illuminator, it’s gonna be more powerful than the MAWL for sure.
@@jwramp just in general for a good setup without having to spend $3k lol. The only downside for the d2 seems to be the visible signature, how good did that filter cut down on that?
How blind was your buddy after this? lol
That was fucking awesome. Big kudos man. Need to see a PEQ15 in there on one of these since it's the one every larper on earth wants lol
The peq15 is in there. About in the middle. From both the video and personal experience, the civilian illuminator sucks and always has weird splotches in the output.
@@levihale3267 I saw the peq2a(TPIAL) but didn't see a 15(ATPIAL). I know the differences are small, but using 123 batteries vs AA, and programmable flash rate difference of the illuminator...
Who h of these are invisible to the naked eye?
All from the shooter’s perspective, none from the target’s perspective.
@@jwramp some of these emit a red light that’s visible, I’d be interested to see how visible they were
@@JDBeastmode oh I know. They're all visible to a certain extent though. Here's some comparisons I did - www.jwramp.com/news/downrange-infrared-signatures
MSI8000 is a f-king lighthouse. I think it is too bright for anything closer than 100m in narrow option.
@Shimitzu I just bought one (Optics Planet had it on super sale) and I'm curious about that exact thing. The light has high/medium/low settings so I'm curious how it performs in the real world. It's a tank, and you can swap from IR to white if you have time to disassemble and swap out the LED unit, but the white light with the factory 18650 is kinda underwhelming but for a 2017 OEM battery... I've got a new one in the mail, but the head is like an old school Maglite where you can dial in the beam. EDIT: The MSI-8000 is indeed a fking light house even on medium or high; it has a noticeable red glow if you look straight at it and are close; I think your best bet at closer ranges is to stick with it on low, and adjust the beam size as needed. I think you may also need to check the wavelength your tube is the most sensitive to. My armasight Nyx-14 Pro is aligned to the 850nm and starts autogating at how bright the MSI is when playing around in my neighborhood. When taken in context with the special forces feedback armasight used to design the setup, I think there's a reason it's so overpowered, but my guess is that it's intended to punch through photonic barriers; the otherwise dark corners of my neighbors front doors/backyards was totally visible. There's also a "flashlight doubler' adaptor that you can screw on that focuses the beam even more which they claim goes out to 1km. If you need to illuminate something, the Armasight has totally got you covered. Good luck finding them anymore though.
I found that the amazon special wasn’t that bad
I have one and it works great. I can see cows in my neighbor's pasture with gen 3 thin filmed, gen 1 starlight scope and digital night vision scope. The bezel in flood and power in low it is actually quite useful in close range.
@@juggernaut7625 how is it on gen 1 devices? I have only tried it on gen 2
@@plmkoo6772 it's not great but not bad. Since it's a starlight scope it gathers a lot more light than a monocular plus I had mine sent off to get cleaned a couple years ago. Better than ATN and some other illuminators I've tried.