Andrew Sachs' Granddaughter Georgina Baillie Reacts To Russell Brand Allegations
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- Piers Morgan Uncensored is joined by the granddaughter of the late Fawlty Towers star Andrew Sachs, Georgina Baillie, to discuss her controversial history with Russell Brand and to give her opinion of the allegations made by women against him.
Georgina, who was the centre of what was known as 'Sachsgate' in 2008 after Brand and Jonathan Ross left her grandfather a voicemail revealing her sexual relationship with Brand, believes that victims need to be heard and that she sympathises as a victim of sexual abuse herself.
However she also tells Piers Morgan that after knowing Russell for so long, she finds it difficult to see him as someone who could have done these things.
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Imagine if the Piers and the media took this interest in Epstein. Or even if they initially took any interest in Harvey Weinstein.
It's so transparent at this point. Call out big pharma and the corporations working with government and they'll go after you. Fortunately they only have 3 yools in that tool box, "pound metoo", "you're a nazi" or " you did the illegal thing we've been doing". I'll never believe another thing mainstream media says that includes cuckservitives like this twat and Faux News.
Well that's obvious...some of Epsteins clients and friends are powerful people who fund and contribute to corporate media
spot on
Jeffrey Epstein was dead when this show began and Harvey Weinstein was in prison…
Lol they did once there were allegations. For both
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The thing about the whole Sachsgate scandal is that Russell quite obviously took the fall for what was essentially Ross’s doing. You heard in that clip that it was in-fact Jonathan Ross who said ‘he fucked your granddaughter!’ and not Russell.
I thought that. It wasnt even him that said it but jonathan Ross
So really Ross should have been outcast from the BBC too.@@janeslater8004
It was a tape, not a live show so why did the BBC not edit that part out??? What better way than to fire someone than to let them do it to themselves maybe???
Ross was as bad as Brand, both immature bullies, both should have been sacked.
Johnathan Ross has always been a vile person
*SHE DID A BRILLIANT JOB* of walking the tightrope on this, not allowing Morgan to put words in her mouth, see both sides, defame no one, and be incredibly dignified...
She is an intelligent woman
@mind5403 so you call her a liar and not the other one accusing him? What double standard haha! I'm all for locking up a rapist. But Jesus, at least make sure he is before you destroy their life.
@mind5403 I disagree completely - she showd that situations are complex and not always black and white or easy to navigate and she NEVER said " he must be innocent then." she dais "I believe the women"
How can I get a FWB girl like her?
@@piccalillipit9211 mind5403 didn't say she said he was innocent. Didn't you see the quotes?
But she did say Russell apologised to her for the stupidity with Ross. And she did actually have a relationship with him so it wasn't a one off thing as many are implying.
@@davidz3879 Generally speaking being rich and famous helps.
I’ve followed Russel for a few years now, enjoy his spiritual journey & then found his political views very interesting. I find the timing to be odd… he’s been very vocal about the corruption within the entire government & pharmaceutical companies, fda. Now up to 6 million followers… I see a pattern here. Allegations like these seem to come out of no where once someone starts to be heard while questioning our establishment. You see them pulling little clips during his days as a comedian while being sick. He’s never denied his wrong choices or his steps to healing…
The psychopaths want to discredit him due to what you say its obvious isnt it
Exactly Russell is getting to controversial he is spot on with his views against Big pharma Biden administration
He is a humanitarian
So they pay so called alleged victims to come out of the wood work to destroy him. I am confused the BBC Nd channel 4 were the ones that sent a taxi to pick up the 16 yrold escort her back to Russell's apartment yet now allege he "groomed" her 😮.
BBC and channel 4 should be ones on trial here not RB
And yet you will be called a cult follower for saying this. Gaslighting at its most sinister
It looks obvious to us but unfortunately the majority will just believe the allegations.
& what a pattern it is: sex, race, or both.. the list goes on and on: I call it the Assange attack
When he was knee deep in drugs and women, the media loved him. Now he calls out global corruption at every level…bring him down!
If he didn't sleep with 16 year old girl, he would have nothing to be afraid of. If you're a public figure and do shady stuff don't expect them to forgive you. If you're gonna take the morally higher ground than liberals, then you better behave better than liberals. Otherwise you're just a hypocrite.
No...they're against him because he raped women....
When he was their face on TV they covered up for him like they do all big celebs. Once he left then and went solo he doesnt have that protection. Just because he speaks out on some good things doesnt mean its a set up. Could he not also have realised when metoo happened sooner or later they would come for him and by going down the conspiracy hole he could blame it all on a conspiracy?
People who support many conspiracy celebs (Lots I agree with too) are always calling out Hollywood/Film?tv as being RIFE with absusers and Peados. Thats until one of their own is called out...in this case someonw who was in that scene for many years...then its all a 'Witch hunt'. Its cherry picking.
This thing says there are 4 replies. Where are they all at? Censorship much?
Exactly. He was lionised for his lecherousness, it was his shtick, he modelled it in plain sight on stage and on television chat shows, he wrote a book about his excesses and proclivities. He now uses his intellect to rail against systemic corruption. Folly to idolise the guy in either incarnation, but such an irony that the very sector that endorsed him is orchestrating to bring him down. Sexual assault allegations are a matter for police prosecution and the courts, public allegations only jeopardise due process of the law. No doubt civil suits will ensue. By then the real objective of destroying a dissident public figures reputation will have been achieved.
Interesting how Piers keeps trying to extract an acknowledgment from Georgina that Russell was inappropriate with her, or assaulted her - and she refuses to rise to the bait. Good for her. Classy young woman.
I wouldn't go that far, the things I've seen her take would make your eyes water.
Classy ..A reformed drug addict ..Yes really classy ..
@@nowgrownupso because of mistakes she made when she was young she can’t e considered classy now ?
Spot on .
@@chriscope7292 My thoughts exactly. Reformed is self explanatory but I'd argue there's no intrinsic link between class or sophistication and addiction anyway. She's quite possibly classier than me and half the people I know who have never touched drugs.
The mainstream media is shaking in its boots right now. All the comments are closed and they are shocked that nearly all people are not buying this! Power to the people! 👏
They are desperate
So victims of rape or SA should face a populist tribunal?
The “people” are morons.
Nobody’s desperate except Brand 😂
@@milDelux what is Brand desperate for? To get this over and done with maybe but there is literally no case or evidence against him. Pure smear attack like has been done with so many.
MSM are desperate.
What a well adjusted and well spoken young woman. Good for her coming on the show and speaking her mind
You shallow sheeple. Shame on you.
Guess we have russell to thank for that. Seen as though he saved her life with rehabs...
@ladyj7085 having been in a very similar position to her. I can say the cognitive dissonance is completely understandable. I don't think that ultimately the interview is very helpful in determining the legitimacy of the claims against him because she clearly doesn't believe in her heart of hearts that he intended for his actions to have been received in the way that they seem to have been.
I love and respect how she answered all of these questions. She gave Russell all due respect while still aknowledging and respecting the alleged victims.❤
Fuck the victims it’s obviously a lie, I struggle to believe anyone who comes out publicly
How anyone can listen to this segment and think it was anything but asinine is beyond me! It ain’t a square peg and a round hole! And don’t even get me started with women fetishizing rough sex and then acting like moral arbiters the next day!
So basically she is covering her ass both directions.
RB should consider himself a very lucky man. What he and that other cad did on air - to a young woman and a grandfather for heaven's sake ? - was abhorent. Talk about toxic masculinity. I don't care if Brand was 'in another place' at the time; those two knew exactly what they were doing.
Assuming they are victims, Russell is automatically guilty. They appear in a TV program saying that once upon a time there were mountains behind the forests, but they didn't go to the police because they were ashamed, waiting for the right moment to make a film about it that the whole world would see.
It should be a police matter and if it could be proven in court AND convicted. If not then🤨Not trial by media.
I mean Tate was arrested , Brand accused , Paul Joseph Watson accused , Alex Bellfield jailed , Dan Woolton attacked , and Owen Shroyer going to jail , all critical of the global elite , you must be dumb if you can't see they have hit a raw nerve and want them out the way .
It should never be in court so many years later. A wise society understands the reasons behind statutes of limitation.
He could take Chanel 4 to court for defamation. But it’s highly unlikely.
It is
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Media needs to be held accountable! A big fat lawsuit needs to be slapped on them!👺
For what because there's four women so far and one of them had a rape test done that is still on file and there's also text messages of him apologizing for some of this so I don't think you're seeing the evidence so far but he is innocent until proven guilty
For reporting what multiple women have claimed? It's not the media's fault for reporting these things. If he did those things the blame lies with him. If he didn't the blame lies with his accusers.
He will ever sue !
@@Chromedome-ss6mg
Why haven’t they pressed charges?
They came forward or were sought out!
@@peterd788
If they sought it out to fbbd these people because they read his book, they’d s huge problem.
That’s against the law in the U.S. .
God forbid anyone accuses piers of anything…
I bet he would demand a balanced investigation then.
Photographs of soldiers perhaps ?
Phone hacking scandal....
I really hope one day Morgan gets trapped, and then we can have people on and almost waterboard them to get them to say fake claims.
He really twisted every last screw in the hope she would say that Russell attacked her , you could literally see him getting more and more desperate when the only thing bad was a radio show where Jonathan Ross actually said the worst thing.
That of course doesn't fit Morgans sleazy little brain , he pushes for more , in the end all he got was her to say he treated her well and made up for the radio show , which actually shows he has a very decent heart , Morgan then had to end it with how bad the radio show was despite her saying he had made up for it.
So another debunking of these claims.
It would never happen because he's very much a shill. They love guys like him. Don't forget what he said during the lockdowns
@@steve10he will oh yes, he will.
Whenever I hear someone say my truth or always believe victims, they lose credibility for me.
but not one of them believes tara reade or juanita broddrick.
There's more women coming forward calling him a predator now. Some women didn't come forward until Rolf Harris was arrested so let's wait and see.
Is that your truth? Can your 'truth' also distinguish between accusers and victims?
Then you'll never hear the real message of what somebody is saying because these are throwaway statements. "My truth" just means "what I know and feel to be true", and she didn't say "always believe victims", she said people should be believed and taken seriously when making an allegation so that there's an investigation and nobody falls through the net... it doesn't mean believe the accusation, just that you take it seriously.
There is no my truth, there’s just the truth
What a lovely person she is, I wish her all the best in her recovery.
Agree ! Wish her all the best, comes across like a woman who has some class, even though she had a bad past .
Russell Brand is like marmite, you either love him or hate him but that doesn’t make him guilty
True..I just always found him extremely irritating mainly the sound of his voice and of course he was a sexual predator but plenty of willing victims takes to to tango etc …let the law decide if it went further than that and if he actually raped anyone.
He causes yeast infections?
True, I was never a fan. I could never relate to his personality. Left or right, I found him annoying.
Not true. I was "meh" about him. But that investigative report was made with caution and he's definitely guilty.Not everyone assesses evidence on whether they like someone or not.
or conversely, not guilty. I just hope he tells the truth and wanting an honest investigation because no matter what (guilty or not guilty) this is being brought to the fore for political reasons.
As a recovered drug addict in my youth, taking personal responsibilty for your actions and experiences is a large part of the healing process. You don't always necessarily end up in bad situations as a unconditional victim, though this can be the case, mostly you allow yourself to be put in them or in fact walk in willingly. Being honest with yourself is the first step to true and sustainable recovery.
No addict is recovered. they will always be recovering ... Let's get that straight
@@winner3924says who? Some shrink?
@@winner3924 Ok that's a fair point. Let me put it this way, I am as 'recovered' as I ever will be. I have no urge whatsoever to touch drugs, smoke anything or even drink alcohol again and haven't for over 15 years now, I find the very idea repulsive. I am recovered from the physical and mental addiction itself. I am as annoying as an ex smoker who can't stand the smell of smoke in that regard.
Once an addict, always an addict, all you can do is arrest it one day at a time ....sorry@@joeschmoe8320
@joeschmoe8320 Same! I walk down the beer and wine aisle at the grocery store and just chuckle to myself. I closed that chapter and now I'm writing a new one
Well done Russell, for helping her with the rehab thing. Looks like it worked for her, as it has for you.
If it doesn’t have proven charges in court it’s a hit job for them to destroy his reputation and work.
Agree it’s wicked. He has a wife and young children. Police or nothing. These sorts of things should not be in the media unless a crime has been committed - Schofield, Edwards, Richards….the list goes on. No prosecution but lives ruined.
He's in for tens of millions of pounds if he's innocent but do you think the Times and C4 would've outed him without being sure they would win a liable case?
That’s right. I read the Times and Chan 4 spent four years following up these allegations. You think they didn’t dot every I and cross every T.
After that Danny Masterson 30-year sentence I bet you Russell Brand is really sweating right now and a lot of other people are probably thinking about their past and s******* their pants
Hell, at this point, if you've ever even associated with a woman, you'd better be searching for a real good TEAM of lawyers. Women don't need evidence. If they say you're guilty, you're screwed.
if thered been even one tiny shred of physical evidence in DM case thatd be one thing but to find out there wasnt AND to find out the victims hung out with him for yrs afterward and one even continued to date him for 3 yrs afterward turns it into literally a hearkening back to witchcraft trial days when no one from any strata was safe.
There's a "man" who killed his girlfriend and stuffed her body into her trunk of her car and denied everything through the trial and beyond..." M.O.TrueCrime' "Lies that Tie" (or "Ties that Lie?" not sure) they found his fingerprints on her shoelaces! GOT SIXTEEN YEARS and he's out enjoying his X wife and daughter and his wonderful life.....THIRTY IS OUTRAGEOUS!
Russell should take this "opportunity" to work on a new NOVEL...title it " Who's the Victim Here?"
BINGO; and let me expand on that; I'm in a good mood tonight.
DUH, Our present administration is THREATENED BY A COMEDIAN?!!!
The Fake Administration of Gangsters in conjunction with the Global Elite, have their own Agenda:
Deleted anyone who disagrees....They call that justice; WE know it's "Just----Us."
I wish the BBC could teach an on line course on VOCABULARY; "Alleged " and "Indicted" MEAN LITTLE MORE than the words " Gee, we suspect this but have to gather the evidence before we make fools of ourselves!!"
All this video shows ME, is that SOMEONE has it in for this guy! (Being outspoken has its repercussions?)
Piers needs a panel made up of women who have dated COMEDIANS. Most of the comedians who are sexually explicit when they're "on stage", are not that vibrant when they're off stage! I think what Miley Cyrus was when she was "on stage', was quite vulgar and only appealed to males looking to see what they wanted to see. Dolly said " try to understand her, she's a devout Christian." Ha-and "actress'" t'boot; GIVE HIM A BREAK---HE'S A COMEDIAN! What's good for the goose, SHOULD be good for the gander, shouldn't it ? And FEMALES ? when you say "no" or "stop" MEAN it .and stop placing yourself in "compromising positions.!" It's appearing s though we've got another Stormy Daniels Fantasy here-a girl raped several times at the age of nine, to "grow up" to not be able to distinguish the difference between rape and consensual sex ("Sixty Minutes Interview")
By the way , isn't it time lie detector tests become accepted as evidence in a courtroom?
"You're the Reason I'm not Married" by the way
LyndaFayeProductions.
Unfortunately, we live in a world where it's rarely about justice. It's almost always about destroying a political enemy, vengeance, or hush money. And this ruins it for the few honest female victims left.
Yes a post truth society, it's very distructive.
What are you talking about. Like Saville the media have been covering for Brand for years. Sucking his d*ck because he hated Brexit etc. Glad to see the truth is finally out and what has been known behind closed doors for decades is finally out. Unlike Saville I hope these women get their day in court.
What makes you think it's only a few?
@@julieholdcroftbetty8520, what makes you think it's a lot?
Not awaiting the results of the police investigation, and assuming a side is right is moronic and immoral.
Funny. As a survivor . I believe NO women.
Regret is not rape
This lady has class ,and a BIG heart . Good for her .
Gc3847. How fuck do you know what she like. Just because she on a show.
Good on her!!! Keeping an open mind is what we need to do here. I don't understand this witch-hunt mentality and rush to judgement. I makes me fear for the future.
the fear is here, already
It*
Don’t fear! Just put your trust into Jesus Christ!
It’s good against evil, you can see it more than ever these days. The demonic realm is very real and Jesus is coming back soon for REAL judgement
@mydearhuman
He's certainly taking his time.🙄
@@ianstrange5674 good things take time! 🙏🏻
She's looking pretty good for pushing 40. And she's been really honest about the nature of the relationship - fair play
Some people dont fear to speak the TRUTH and she is one of them, but majority lie for self gain.
Yea in the west, everyone looks like a grandma at 40
She's not relationship material. Still, if I was the grandfather, I would have given Brand a physical beating.
It’s called face paint aka make up
Here we go again. “she looks good for 40”…as if it’s 80. Most everyone “still looks good for 40.”😮
The 'Assange Process'. How can anyone with any sort of functioning intelligence not see this for what it is. A big fat distraction. Stay healthy Peeps & don't comply
Bang on the money! MSM have to silence people like Mr Brand.
Dan Wooton
The " Stormy Daniels Syndrome?"
Russell should take this "opportunity" to work on a new NOVEL...title it " Who's the Victim Here?"
BINGO; and let me expand on that; I'm in a good mood tonight.
DUH, Our present administration is THREATENED BY A COMEDIAN?!!!
The Fake Administration of Gangsters in conjunction with the Global Elite, have their own Agenda:
Deleted anyone who disagrees....They call that justice; WE know it's "Just----Us."
I wish the BBC could teach an on line course on VOCABULARY; "Alleged " and "Indicted" MEAN LITTLE MORE than the words " Gee, we suspect this but have to gather the evidence before we make fools of ourselves!!"
All this video shows ME, is that SOMEONE has it in for this guy! (Being outspoken has its repercussions?)
Piers needs a panel made up of women who have dated COMEDIANS. Most of the comedians who are sexually explicit when they're "on stage", are not that vibrant when they're off stage! I think what Miley Cyrus was when she was "on stage', was quite vulgar and only appealed to males looking to see what they wanted to see. Dolly said " try to understand her, she's a devout Christian." Ha-and "actress'" t'boot; GIVE HIM A BREAK---HE'S A COMEDIAN! What's good for the goose, SHOULD be good for the gander, shouldn't it ? And FEMALES ? when you say "no" or "stop" MEAN it .and stop placing yourself in "compromising positions.!" It's appearing s though we've got another Stormy Daniels Fantasy here-a girl raped several times at the age of nine, to "grow up" to not be able to distinguish the difference between rape and consensual sex ("Sixty Minutes Interview")
By the way , isn't it time lie detector tests become accepted as evidence in a courtroom?
"You're the Reason I'm not Married" by the way
LyndaFayeProductions.
Shagger of the year for three consecutive years . When piers was editor for the publication .
wow, Piers is such a sleaze
Good point. Lauding his bad behaviour. Encouraging him to push boundaries even further
This is what we need, to feel sympathy for victims but at the same time not automatically assume that every alleged victim tells the truth. Best to take the neutral ground until evidence comes up.
#BelieveTheEvidence ✊🏻✊🏻
Imagine a world where you’re innocent until proven guilty? What happened to that?
The media don't like that brand has more subscribers than MSM
Believe the victim...but if they're lying then Russell's the victim
If they're lying he's going to earn tens of millions of pounds in compo but do you think the Times and C4 would've outed him if they weren't sure they would win a liable case?
I am now an admirer of this young Lady. So balanced considering what she's been through. 👏👏👏
It's all just a performance,
That phone call went out and nobody complained, it was the repeat a month later that people complained about. This witch hunt is massive. Innocent till proven guilty.
Guilty until proven innocent nowadays
People did complain
Yes only after the media trumped it up
@@Random-xw1fg 40,000 complained Piers said.....
@hvidhavn1 I am not sure this number is correct but maybe it is.
She was very wise and fair in her assessment there. Impressive young lady
She threw him under the bus with the 'believe the accusers'! She could have just said, 'lets wait and see the evidence' and left at at that. This believe all women is BS!
Very beautiful too.
No she wasn't, she was forgetful and sounded off her head still...
Agreed. She seems like a decent human being, and for what it's worth, beautiful imo 👍
Sadly for Piers he didn't get his grubby hands on some hard evidence , despite constantly trying to get her to say how bad he treated her.
Then he brings up the radio show , which has nothing to do with the claims , then you could see he got fed up when she said Russell made up for that by paying for her to go to rehab.
Morgan goes away empty handed and we get the truth about how Brand can be.
Still zero proof
Respect for this young lady who really handled this difficult conversation well and with fairness
She seems like a wonderfully well balanced young lady and i wish her the best! Such a mature and unbiased individual. And actually, quite effortlessly classy haha 😂
Big respect for this lady. I think she handled this brilliantly.
It is good to hear some context to the story, in my opinion Russell Brand is an utter bell end. But that doesn’t mean he’s guilty of any crime.
Ross & Brand are both colossal bell ends!!!
He got money on false pretences, does that count? never found one of his jokes funny or seen him as anything but a nasty piece of work I wouldn't do the proverbial P if on fire....
If he didn't sleep with 16 year old girl, he would have nothing to be afraid of. If you're a public figure and do shady stuff don't expect them to forgive you. If you're gonna take the morally higher ground than liberals, then you better behave better than liberals. Otherwise you're just a hypocrite.
@@philipseymore3498 The law cares much.
He has become significantly less than a bell end in the last few years
I'm calling bullshit! I don't believe these "victims," what awesome timing for these women.
THEY didn't arrange it! Get your facts right. The BBC had been planning an exposé for ages but it wasn't getting past their lawyers and the two women journalists (from the Sunday Times and C4) were investigating too (I believe one of them had heard personal testimony of SA by Brand in the past).
Hence, THEY (the journalists) approached the women.
It's not like it happened 100 years ago. It was relatively recently and although YES, we can blame his TV employers for turning a blind eye, we cannot blame the women OR the journalists for the "timing".
It takes a LONG time these days for reporters from established publications to gather and verify accusations.
Newspapers and TV news companies have lawyers who check every report so that it's safe from the charge of defamation.
@@leenieledejo6849 whatever. If it had been me, I would be screaming 'I was ASSAULTED' by this man, at the top of my lungs for 20 YEARS! I'd hire a lawyer after I went to the police, buy space in all newspapers...keeping quiet and waiting for all the red tape to unroll is not an option. However, you say tomato...
@@Jacksonthecollie
You’re a dog! Keep your silly opinions to yourself. My dog hasn’t put his oar in so shut it!
Courageous woman, well done to her.
That clip actually sounded like it was Jonathan Ross who said it!!!!! Georgina seems very level headed and is taking the correct stance regarding the allegations. Good on her.
Now I'm just waiting for the Epstein list to come out.
It had to take a lot for her to show up on TV. good for her! well done
Nothing like a bit of shameless self promotion to harden and empower even the most delicate of souls.
Especially one claiming victimhood after a p.o.r.n career.
LOL How else will she be famous? That's the whole obvious plan. Never fuck a crazy woman.
Bear in mind that the "Sachs-gate" scandal was largely driven by Jonathon Ross. Although Russell Brand could have, but didn't, nip it in the bud it's not fair that the lion's share of the blame seems to be put on Russrll Brand by Piers in thus segment.
100 percent Ross was more culpable and Russell as a grimy drug addled sap at the time was never gonna wind it back and hang up the call or tell Ross it was enough
@@etherspinRoss was an older comedian who was chasing clout with brand and could have advised against the silly phone call.
He's the one under suspicion for rape - not Ross.
He was like a silly giggling kid, on the Sachs-destroying episode - he didn't have the sense nor decency expected of an adult because, as said , his brain was in little-boy mode.
This is what annoyed me about it , I quite like Ross , but he was out of order , he shouted the main comment that was the worst one , and got away with it.
Ross should have owned up and said he was the most controversial one , instead he let Brand take all the blame.
@@boshirahmedthat's the shameful thing, Ross does interviews with other celebs, what made him think he would sound cool by shouting what he did , feels like he was desperate to be down with the kids.
Yet I don't remember him apologising and taking the blame.
Russell was stupid for actually thinking playing it on his show was going to be a good thing , it's like if you got drunk and did something bad, you wouldn't then show everyone the footage , so why he put it on I dont know.
The radio show isn't part of the claim either yet its always brought up.
This interview has really opened my eyes. I thought what he'd done to Georgina was disgraceful i.e. openly boasting about their relationship and the knock on effect the publicity had on her relationship with her Grandfather. Jonathan Ross got away with his contribution to the discussion scotfree and both were part of the establishment media at the time and therefore, she was villianised in the newspapers while they were both protected to an extent. It's nice though to hear that he made amends for his wrong doing by paying for her rehabilitation. That makes me think better of him and the fact is that Georgina is cool with him now. I wrote a p/m to her days before this interview in support of her and what he did to her back then but her take on the situation has really thrown me!
"I believe all victims"
"Do you believe all accusers?"
"Uhhh"
"So if you believe all alleged victims, aren't you calling Brand guilty?"
"Uhhh".
When you defeat #believeallwomen with logic. Good job Piers.
The full Assange treatment means he's right above the target,something Morgan is paid to avoid.
If he didn't sleep with 16 year old girl, he would have nothing to be afraid of.
Just as a point of fact，I listened to the phone call again and it was Jonathan Ross that made it public not Russell Brand.
Brand named her.
So - it was OK to mentally destroy Sachs - as long as nobody knew about it???????
You are sick!
Tough one to call. Georgina is being as honest as she can without nailing her colours to any one particular mast. I didn't know he'd paid for her rehab, he may have been a stupid arse and did something reprehensible but he clearly has done something about what he did to her grandfather.
Edit: regarding the edit, I should perhaps make it clear, I meant the whole sachsgate thing. However I have a huge issue with how quickly people have moved to make out like he's definitely guilty when, so far he's not been charged with ANYTHING. And I'd also like to hold my hands up and say I should've said "what he supposedly did to her grandfather".
He didn’t do anything to her , but have a consensual sexual relationship without abuse!
Is she fck! She just threw him under the bus by saying you have to believe the accusers! She could have said, 'wait til the evidence is provided" but she didn't.
She said friends with benefits.
@@user-ro2vb8by7u the thing he did that was reprehensible was to her grandfather as mentioned in the interview. What he did with her was perfectly fine.
Nothing happened , despite Piers being sleazy , the guy is a c*** , phishing for more and more sleaze that isn't there FFS
SHAME ON MORGAN
Is it possible these ladies are telling the truth? Yes.
Is it possible Russell is innocent of these allegations? Yes.
While we await certain facts to emerge, one thing is definitely certain...the timing of this is suspect to say the least.
She is very forgiving. Rape is about having power over someone more vulnerable. If that had been me I’d have felt I’d been raped on TV.
Where’s Johnathan Ross?
im sure hes broken the hearts of hundreds of young women that have never gotten over it.
Wow
Why are you sure? How can one be sure without knowing anything?
I think it is stupid to say: I believe the victims. You can first of all nobody believe no matter if men or woman!
@margretalbrecht95 We know he's dated many woman. The victims should be believed but that doesn't mean you can condemn without proof, especially when 10y old celebrity allegations come out.
Oh, my heart was broken more than once. The fact of the matter is that's not a crime.
Mr Brand has obviously found valuable information on someone and they are trying to discredit him and cancel him out before he can talk.
Don't understand when people say, "I was only 23." Like that means anything. I was married with a job and a mortgage at that age. No absolution of responsibility for me.
People mature at different times. In the west 23 is still young.
If anybody had a reason to throw Russell under the bus it's this lady and she flat out refused. It would have been so easy for her to have painted Russell as some kind of demon but she didnt.
She isn't the only lady to come out publicly and NOT demonise him.
This is going to be very interesting the more this "story" develops.
People will admit to being, a fraudster, an armed robber, even a murderer. No one ever admits to being a sex offender.
That's because the definition of a sex offender in 2023 is so pathetic that by 2030 you'd be sent down for ever looking at a woman
@@LiverPools-ib5fvSo is it cool with you for a 30 year old to pursue and sleep with a 16 year old? Regardless of consent laws, how does that sit with you. Brand has pretty much admitted this.
@@LiverPools-ib5fv Really? So compelling a woman to have sex is OK with you?
First paragraph of the sex offenders handbook?
It was consensual your honour.
If we haven't come to the conclusion that believing all accusers is completely ridiculous and extremely harmful then idk. Even this woman, she doesn't even think to call him before going on a show to talk about him... there's no common sense at all in this segment
Shes creepy
wtf would she call him? What a ridiculous thing to say.
@@iamamoghalfmanhalfdog5325 Women scare you then?
@@1inchPunchBowl creepy people creep me out yes
@@iamamoghalfmanhalfdog5325 There's no common sense at all in your comment. This is an erudite woman who has had her own troubles and she couldn't have been any more honest. I would suggest to you that leaving comments calling people creepy who you have never met (I presume) is what is truly creepy.
Why is there no Documentary into Epstien client list.... 🤔
Respect to her.
She comes across as a lovely person.
Imo she thinks Russell did not do that but as a survivor will not call others liars.
I think people are confusing rape with, “I did something and I wasn’t sure about it, so I must have been raped.”
Anything was proven either way? Can we leave it to courts.
You live your life in the public domain and out spoken like Brand them you take on the scathing public when you fall ...
Unfortunately the courts in the western world have been so corrupted thwy would convict a ham sandwich of being a turkey.
@@nowgrownup So that's the rule is it? You're a celebrity so you get justice served to you in a different fashion to how the rest of the population receive it? That's just silly; the law may be an ass but it's all we have and if the law is not applied evenly to all then what is the point in having it? It should be the police and the courts who decide who is guilty, not the papers, hacks or TV and TH-cam pundits.
I love Russell. More liars saying they were raped ! I am a 68 yr old White Liberal woman in California and the Me Too movement has gone too far. Why does a woman go to a man’s hotel room? Why did all those women go to a hotel room with Weinstein while he was in his pajamas? Come on!!!! These are women who want the attention of the media. Rose McGowan is a horrible actress and is mad Weinstein didn’t make her a star. All the other actresses are look at me people! Now they go after Russell who is happily married with 2 children! This is BS! I’m team Russell. Piers you tried to get this woman to say Russell raped and abused her.
This was definitely not wrote by a white liberal woman
Well said. Women have gone too far. I would never have gone to a hotel room with a celebrity. Why did these women put themselves in awkward positions they need to take responsibility for themselves.🇬🇧
@@susansweeney1069 defiantly blame the victims
Cope hard for the sex addict. 😂😂
I love Russell.
Georgina is obviously feeling pushed on this and it’s plain that she supports Russell, her body movements and head leaning on her shoulders show she’s uncomfortable with the questioning..a bit shameful of you Mr Morgan to use her this way regardless of your own views!!
This is not about Russell Brand.
It's about trial by media based on anonymous allegations.
It's about due process.
It about the government getting involved and violating the Magna Carta.
She's an ex-druggy with no more idea of what's happened than the rest of us. Would that be fair to say?
I love this woman's perception. She seems like she's taking her recovery really well. I wish her the best.
She came across so well. It saddened me to see the damage the "s-shaming" did to her. What a horrible dent to her self esteem when she has everything to be proud of. I wish her a brilliant future
All merit to this young lady, I certainly think she's a very generous person. IMO what Brand and Ross did not only to Georgina herself but to her family, was appalling. I don't excuse either of the two men - or the BBC.
Georgina handled this with class and I would love to see her acting in films, she has a great style and is beautiful.
WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE ALLEGATIONS 😩 THEY ARE CLEARLY MANUFACTURED BY THE MOST EVIL PEOPLE EVER. Russel is good, period!
It was Jonathan Ross who was being a dick but Russell Brand got and took the blame and lost his job.
Russell is a gift to us, we have to stand by him ! He is the example of a Redemption path and this is happening because he is doing things right, having the courage to expose the corruption and lies from governments and rich people, using his influence for this today, which before was to womanize, now that is change, that is redemption! We love you Russell ❤
You sound unwell.
Path is correct, sociopath.
No hes not. He is a creep and a criminal
- Prince Andrew: globalist paedophile cabal, jail him
- Pizzagate: Elite Democrat paedophile conspiracy, jail them
- Epstein: Democrat conspiracy, jail them
- Biden: Creepy paedophile, lock him up
- Bill Gates: globalist paedophile, jail him
- Russell Brand: oh thats too far its the mainstream media. All lies. Government globalists. blah blah blah
so predictable
is it a cult?
Every single public figure who isn't on the left of politics or supporting the establishment gets accused of the same thing.
That is simply untrue. Harvey Weinstein is arguably the most prominent and powerful person who was accused and convicted. He was a very well known lefty and contributed a lot of money to the left wing establishment. There are other examples of people on the left who have been accused. Al Franken was a comedian who became a left wing US senator. Can’t get more “establishment” than that. He lost his job over it and because of a joke photograph…not sexual assault. Kevin spacey is left leaning democrat and worked on Jimmy Carters presidential campaign in the 70s and is a friend of Bill Clintons…again, can’t get more establishment. Your assertion that “EVERY SINGLE public figure who isn’t…” is demonstrably false.
That's not true is it?
A lot do cos it attracts the power hungry ego maniacs, who thinknyhey can take, take, take
Yes, every single person ..... lol.... yeah, that makes lots of sense.
So that means if accusations are made, they shouldn't be investigated, dependent on who the accused is.
@seanmcmichael2551 look at what they did to Trump. Years of fake allegations.
Bill Gates did this and worse..... PLEASE DO A PIECE ON THAT. As did Bill Clinton, Polanski and Woody Allen...PLEASE report!!! Also age of consent in UK is 16 so stressing that point is really manipulative as it's legal.
A woman with her own mind with a very mature perspective and honest input.
Seems like a kind, lovely woman with compassion who gives the benefit of the doubt to everyone. Very balanced, fair interview
Well said.
I agree that it's important not to condemn Russell before a full investigation but it's also wrong to triumph him and call him a hero when none of us actually know what happened or the truth of the matter. So distasteful of anyone to discredit these women without knowing the facts.
Exactly my sentiments.
Well, his publisher has seen more than is and they have said that Russell deceived them and have dropped him like a sack of shit...
The media just travel around the list of old flames offering financial incentives to come up with a story. Russell is a good lad and I hope he carries on with his news videos.
Yeah me too forget the rape and sexual assault that he did let it go
@@Chromedome-ss6mg yawns! The media are so trustworthy it must be true right?
"A good lad".
Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear!!!
Good job that you have no power, nor influence but a pity you have no intelligence.
I hope you don't work with kids or women... even goats better tread carefully.
weird....because more women have come forward....
Wow they are really dredging aren't they. Has judicial process been abandoned completely?
A man tried to groom and attack me when i was 16. I went directly to my psrents and we went to the police. I went to court and the man was let off because no one who witnessed what he did wanted to speak up because their situation would be less beneficial. Later, that man very badly r@ped and attacked another girl. He k!lled himself in prison.
Looking back at this and the situation with Brand, i think of course the group of people who didnt defend me would never defend anyone as long as their situation was good. However, years later, funds dried up... they could be persuaded to say or do anything because they had no morals to begin wirh.
I don't believe Russell did anything but i know snakes always surround powerful people.
Sounds as if someone experienced IMMEDIATE SPIRITUAL KARMA ??
Russell should take this "opportunity" to work on a new NOVEL...title it " Who's the Victim Here?"
BINGO; and let me expand on that; I'm in a good mood tonight.
DUH, Our present administration is THREATENED BY A COMEDIAN?!!!
The Fake Administration of Gangsters in conjunction with the Global Elite, have their own Agenda:
Deleted anyone who disagrees....They call that justice; WE know it's "Just----Us."
I wish the BBC could teach an on line course on VOCABULARY; "Alleged " and "Indicted" MEAN LITTLE MORE than the words " Gee, we suspect this but have to gather the evidence before we make fools of ourselves!!"
All this video shows ME, is that SOMEONE has it in for this guy! (Being outspoken has its repercussions?)
Piers needs a panel made up of women who have dated COMEDIANS. Most of the comedians who are sexually explicit when they're "on stage", are not that vibrant when they're off stage! I think what Miley Cyrus was when she was "on stage', was quite vulgar and only appealed to males looking to see what they wanted to see. Dolly said " try to understand her, she's a devout Christian." Ha-and "actress'" t'boot; GIVE HIM A BREAK---HE'S A COMEDIAN! What's good for the goose, SHOULD be good for the gander, shouldn't it ? And FEMALES ? when you say "no" or "stop" MEAN it .and stop placing yourself in "compromising positions.!" It's appearing s though we've got another Stormy Daniels Fantasy here-a girl raped several times at the age of nine, to "grow up" to not be able to distinguish the difference between rape and consensual sex ("Sixty Minutes Interview")
By the way , isn't it time lie detector tests become accepted as evidence in a courtroom?
"You're the Reason I'm not Married" by the way
LyndaFayeProductions.
the law needs to change urgently the problem russel has now is if he does end up in court theres no chance whatsoever he would be able to get a fair trial anywhere in the world let alone the uk absolutely shocking they can name people without any police investigation whatsoever
OMG. Here we go again. Russell Brand. Is a SPEAKER OF TRUTH.
And a rapist, apparently.
Its late, you're drunk! Go to bed
imagine being so low IQ you think ANYTHING marxist liar Russell Brand has been saying is "true" lol.
You know - when you write it as you have and capitalise it too - it really does show how ludicrous he is.
His garbage re Covid, was deplorable - I hadn't thought that anyone sane and educated would think that he was a "speaker of truth".
Much of his subsequent output was also totally off the wall. I thought he was just spoofing!
Trying to revive his flagging career, as a comedian.
You are not saying that anyone actually believed that it was all anything but a spoof?????
"Don't **** shame me even though I was sleeping around with literally everyone"
So?
Brand was sticking his junk in anything with a pulse back then.
What’s good for the goose.
No proof no crimes. Accusers are not victims
Listening to that audio again, the darling of TV, Jonathan Ross, was mostly to blame for what happened. She seems like a rational, level headed woman. Props to her for giving a balanced character analysis of Brand.
I think we need to drop the attitude that the victim must always be believed. Treat every case as an investigation n only rely on solid proven evidence. We've all seen n heard of lieing women.
'I'll always believe the victims.' Why? You don't even know these women. Why just immediately take them at their word?
With the amount of false allegations out there these days, you should do anything but immediately believe them; particularly if the accusations are toward a famous person, and are they're coming out about it years after it allegedly happened, and not even to the police...
Because making these accusations is as damaging to the women as it is to the accused. It isn't a course taken lightly and in the vast majority of cases it isn't taken to Police at all. The abuse that accusers suffer in social media and in the court frightens many women off proceeding especially against a celebrity. There are a small number of false allegations, at times, but these are readily exposed.
@@GinaSeay-kn7xr so you believe tara reade and juanita broaddrick?
@@GinaSeay-kn7xr It's not as damaging to the women when no one knows who they are. Right now they're just a bunch of question marks, and it looks like it'll stay that way.
We can't just believe all women when they suddenly decide, donkey's years later, that so-and-so famous person SA'd them.
If they really wanted to put these men away, then they'd go straight to the police after it happened so that they can collect forensic evidence to use against the person in court. Not run to the *media* a decade later saying 'he did this, he did that.' Pointless. You're never going to get anywhere with that method because the window to provide any proof will have long passed, and all you're left with is a bunch of hearsay.
And I don't know where you got the idea that there are a 'small number of false allegations ' and that these are 'readily exposed'? The number of false allegations towards men is actually large, and growing all the time. There are a large amount of men behind bars having their lives taken away as we speak because some women have been believed with no evidence.
So as hard as it may be for *actual* victims to come forward soon after the SA has taken place, it's what they need to do to be taken seriously. There are far too many false allegations these days which is why evidence is everything in these situations now. If we were to just take every last women at her word, the number of falsely accused men behind bars would be astronomical, and it's already high enough as it is.
@@GinaSeay-kn7xryou're a day dream believer
Alleged victims/accusers have a right to be HEARD, not automatically believed. Brand has a right to due process and the presumption of innocence until he's PROVEN guilty in a court of law. Lots of women lie and falsely accuse men, particularly famous men, of all kinds of things that never happened.
Piers Morgan was a true Gentleman in this one, great job Sir!
yeah like he's an angel, ffs
Piers Morgan, always ready to throw the first stone.
You are easily fooled.
Yep, good job pierce 👍
WHAT , morgan was desperate to get some sleaze , when he didn't he brought up the radio show in the hope that would get her to say how it ruined her life , instead she had more positives about Brand and Morgan had nowhere else to go.
He was desperate to make her say Brand was horrible and a monster to her.
I was expecting a character assassination job and for her to be playing the victim, I'm glad to say I was wrong and she didn't go to that level despite Morgan's attempts to manipulate her in that direction, every credit to Georgina.
Highly impressive! She should be the first witness that Brand has called on his behalf. She was mixed up and he was mixed up; they were addicts together. I'm not the biggest Russell Brand fan, but he is bringing enlightenment to the world. Ms Baillie has approached the whole issue with maturity, poise, class, responsibility and reality. Brand's many enemies will hate her and try to force her to shut up. It's hard to have a nice Hit Job when an accuser paints you as a real human being, with issues and weaknesses. When someone whom you think has done you wrong puts you through rehab, it makes it hard for others to make you out as a villain.
She clearly states that she doesn't see Brand as a rapist. At her age, then and now, she could spot the difference and she's made her call. Russell acted the fool when he called her grandfather, Andrew Sachs, and she's forgiven him. The only 2 parties to this case are Brand and Baillie and they both point to the fact that Brand was a sex addict but not an abuser. This case is pretty much closed. It won't see court and I hope that Russell Brand sues the media scum for a hundred million pounds, especially the swine at youtube.
No one should be named and shamed unless they are arrested and charged. I do not like Brand, but he should be investigated by the police and if the accusations are true, then tried in a court of law, not the media
Give it a rest.
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"Let him off the hook" you mean????????????????
@@childofthe60s100 The hook you created in your head? He’s not even been in court yet you numpty
lol you're funny. Biden was accused by Tara Reade and what do you think of that
All aboard the band wagon.
Absolutely! 🙄😵💫
"Im not a slut" "well we didnt have a relationship, purely sex" lol?
Also was part of a music / dance troupe called the satanic sluts.
Piers Morgan's career and manufactured outrage is FAR more offensive than 'Sachsgate' ever was.
Women who come out with sexual allegations *decades* after the alleged "fact" should NEVER be taken seriously in any society regulated by the right of Law; in any society that values Justice and has an ethical foundation of some kind, for that matter. On the contrary, they ought to be immediately placed under scrutiny for defamation.
You say you have been molested (or worse)? Why didn't you report the crime immediately? What is your justification for waiting 10, 20 years or more? Where is your hard evidence? Wounds? Bruises? A formal statement from a hospital? Where are your witnesses? *Credible* ones, not a bunch of other women like you who "forgot" all about it for decades, only to pop up now and cry "me too!". Can they prove they *actually* witnessed the fact? Can you prove anything at all, for that matter?
99% of the allegations made by "me too" and similar movements turned out to be utterly fabricated. Women accusing men of sexual misconduct are at the top of the list in every statistic of false reporting of crimes, everywhere in the Western world.
And don't even get me started with "most women don't report sexual crimes for fear of not being believed and for fear of being shamed": women's allegations are taken at face value, nowadays; where do you think we are living? Afghanistan? In the Middle Ages?
The Sachs 'scandal' was another case completely manufactured by the media. Two presenters behaving like silly schoolboys was hardly a school massacre, but it got the same level of coverage as though it was.
Plus, what people forget is that Andrew Sachs was due to do an interview on Brand's show and hadn't turned up. Brand was leaving a fairly polite message, when Jonathan Ross chipped in with his 'He fucked your granddaughter' comment. It was not particularly smart of them, but it was hardly the crime of the century either, and yet people behaved as though they had gone out of their way to be abusive and nasty towards a frail old man.
No, it wasn't manufactured. There was a lot of genuine outrage and huge numbers of complaints because he did go out of his way to be abusive and nasty to Sachs and to Baillie. That Sachs was supposed to do an interview does not excuse what happened. They left a series of messages about Brand having sex with her. They could have stopped at the first and apologized and their producer could have edited it out before broadcasting. It was bullying, misogynistic, and a massive invasion of privacy. It was appalling behaviour and it was right that they all had consequences for it.
@@xyzzdoe3674 The majority of complaints came from sanctimonious bandwagon jumpers who hadn't even heard it. Much of it was borne out of an already existing bias and envy towards both presenters, particularly towards Ross, due to his well-publicised wage packet at the time.
As I said, while it wasn't particularly smart of them, it was a trivial matter, overblown to sell papers etc. The level of coverage it received was ludicrous.
While those with nothing better to do may well have been outraged, those who hadn't had easy lives were either indifferent to it, or too busy at work to care.
It also invites the question as to what sort of family set-up results in a granddaughter ending up as a prostitute and in rehab for drug addiction. Also, it was not her family, but Brand himself who acted responsibly and paid for her to receive treatment for her addiction, something that was not publicised.
Piers you will be the next!!! Sad, but true!
I wish!
Russel has always admitted that he had bad habits and behaved badly .... Thatt was many years ago and i think he is now a decent, yes sometimes over the top man. I think some of his orevious sexual partners perhaps regret their own actions .... And are falling in with the 'new .morality' , which also fits with agendas that Russell Brand calls out.
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Cope😂😂😂
Exactly it, and the CH4 guy who found these women to make these accusations, is being judge & jury over this, he then went on to say that misogynist stuff in 2000 is no longer acceptable in 2023. Its about the woke hard lefty lot running CH4 at the moment who don't like that Brand has 10 million more viewers than they have
Brand Excusing - the new internet trend.
Evidently these women had some bad habits and behaved badly as well. Birds of a feather.