An interview with Patrick Bet-David Part. 1
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In part one of this special edition of the Stephen A. Smith Show, Stephen A. sits down with Valuetainment Media Founder/CEO and PBD Podcast host, Patrick Bet-David, to discuss his American journey, family, and business success.
On The Stephen A. Smith Show, Smith gives you his renowned point of view, breaking barriers beyond the world of sports, and tackling pertinent issues across entertainment, pop culture, society, business, and politics. Three times a week, you'll hear his LIVE unfiltered opinions on the day's biggest headlines as well as straight-shooting interviews with top celebrities, game-changers, and thought leaders across the societal arena.
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You know this country is soft when a MAN has to justify and explain to his audience why he is talking to a perfectly reasonable and respectable man. We are so screwed!
So true. Stephen A is definitely moving in the right direction though. Admire PBD greatly
It's the same for us in the UK. I call it the wokey cokey
True but he was trying to get his listeners to stay tuned in and listen and it just might make a difference.
@@rebeccataylor1432He should be trying to seek new listeners such as PBD listeners. Not simping for his dumb brainwashed typical mainstream media listeners.
@@Tackleqbwhat I don't like is nobody's talking about the accomplishments that Joe Biden has done for this country the jobless rate is lower, inflation is lower, the deficit is lower, he created jobs and began to convert US to a cleaner environment! We're talking about the way Biden speaks, we're not talking about his actions! And I'm disappointed in Stephen a Smith and a whole lot of others who don't understand the enemy is Donald J Trump not Joe Biden!
Interview starts at 7:30 nearly fell asleep listening to the disclaimer
Thanks for the heads-up!
SAS is a hoe for that trigger warning
lol
Thank you!!
Thank you brother
The intro was ridiculously wrong.
wtf was that apology intro 😂
I thought the same
Because he has a primarily black audience and they be complaining if everything isn’t black.
He has to explain to his fascist leftist audience that it's okay to have a conversation and diversity of opinions.
Soft
@@butlerbees6639lol I'm black and offended nobody else knows this or is afraid to tell blacks .......hey don't you think it's a lil narcissistic to only speak on, only buy, only allow black?
This man actually spent the whole time apologizing for having a conservative on his show 🤣🤣🤣🤣
SAS is scared of getting canceled and losing his followers.
Lmao😂
Yup... he's scared of the so called "Tolerant" left reaction
He isnt conservative. And it wasn't an apology it was a newsflash/trigger warning just in case this isn't some people's cup of tea
@@lf2856only if he thinks people are slow in the brain
You can lead a liberal to facts but you can't make them think
This goes hard
lmao. Let's start with aborting a baby AFTER birth. Was ur guy lying or was that fact? How abt we gonna build a wall and Mexico will pay for it? Trump fans lie and deflect. Tell me what Trump policy has earned ur vote. Maybe the big beautiful healthcare
Not liberals just people on the left
Man, that’s a lovely quote!
(-_-)
yeah
Imagine having a show where 30% is apologizing for talking common sense with your guest. Next level stuff right there
Finding the 'money's hidden magic' ebook should be your top priority, even if it's the last thing you do in life
Who’s the author?
PBD IS A common sense conservative. He’s easily likable and extremely fair, this is why he’s gotten super popular over the years
PBD is a right wing nut job who spreads lies sprinkled in with small truths
Try doing your homework on PBD I have... He is a conman...first his insurance company he made millions from was nothing more than a MLM Ponzi scam type business. i have researched insurance companies with the SAME market value as his was at the time guess what his rates and premiums were higher much higher than if someone just went to any A+ RATED insurance company in the USA. So the customer is getting ripped off on top of promises by his talking drone reps of being rich in there down line. Stephen is not a good interviewer because he did not ask any probing questions. All this interview was about was to let PBD promote his products and rip off more people.
exactly, he calls both sides on their BS lol I love it.
He’s a independent
Until people like ups drivers are making 100k a year. Then his real colors of greed come out. Hes isn’t very well versed. Watch his sedar and pakman interview. They both expose his actual lack of knowledge.
Now Stephen A. has an episode worth watching
Yes 👏
with PBD the scammer
Sorry to burst your bubble, but his show was doing fine without you... So please Paul continue to NOT watch we don't need your snarky remarks.
@@TheWay0216 Thought I was the only one that noticed. Pat and his other Goofy co-host are Trump cheerleaders trying to disguise themselves as independent.
@@TheWay0216 PBD the scammer huh! Funny, in a 100 years from now his name and contributions to business and the country as a whole will still be echoing through this great nation of ours in a positive light. Sad, no one will remember yours! My family and the future family’s of my children will remember his name because of the generational wealth this man has helped me create to make that a possibility. So have a truly blessed and successful life sir🤙🏽
I'm only watching because of Patrick Bet David.... brilliant Man
The exact opposite of Stephen A Smith.
PBD is a moderate conservative. He speaks the truth unapologetically. It’s nice to see SAS have him on the show
PBD doin nothing but making clear sense.. and liberals will be like: “misinformation” 😭
Pbd isn’t even right wing 😂
Every Democrat isn't a liberal..
@@YBGGRUB he’s a self proclaimed “independent” but his values align with conservatives…the people who don’t like him are liberals…
Pbd is def right wing
@@FreshJordans507Well he voted Oboma Bill Clinton and is a registered independent as well as one of the only to listen to any side. Just because he’s voting a certain way doesn’t make you a wing
I find it odd that he had to drop that trigger warning in before he started showing the interview... when PBD did not say a single controversial thing...
Facts.. What did he want us to see? I like David but he himself is boring..HIS SHOW AND TAKES ARE A LITTLE CONTROVERSIAL. let's get to it Stephen A!!!
He scared
Works for ESPN, thats the only reason I can think of
@hc2828 he doesn't want to loose his cnn job, his youtube channel
@glenwilliams6107 Huh???? Bet David is boring himaelf??? Wtf u taking bout. When it comes to podcast and people caring what a person thinks......Pat bet David is 50× more valued the Stephen A with ANYTHING not sports related......FACTS!!!!
I love how PBD speaks about family values and marriage.
I don’t think that intro was long enough 😂
Def should have been 57min23 seconds longer right ? lol 😂
PBD is unstoppable.
CIA
Snake oil salesman
@@mikegeee3319 Nah, you have him mixed up with Biden
If Stephen A has Trump on the podcast, he’ll have to have a 1 week long apology intro.
..or he might break records. DJT would do it.
He will probably upload the video after the election.
4 part apology intro 😂
If he gets Trump on, I'll actually subscribe to him no matter how it goes.
Lets be real, when SAS goes to vote and the curtain closes, he 100000% is voting Republican.. His view is an act on a stage of life. Behind the door, hes conservative.
PBD is so knowledgeable and makes so much common sense, thank you Stephen A for having him on the show. One of the BEST shows you have done yet. WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!!
PBD has legit been one of my hero’s for 4 years now easily his office is 3 miles from my house I would love to work for him
PBD is one of the 3 guys that helped me make the decision to drop out of college and pursue my business! Best decision in my life
You should still finish college just as a backup and to be more knowledgeable. I have a career but I still squeeze in 1 college class per year. But you have to make sure that you get a good grade and study hard otherwise you will be wasting your time. But following your dreams like your own business is great but still keep on expanding your education.
@@MsMoons123 expanding your education I agree with, but not in school. I guarantee they don’t have AI in their curriculum! 😂 meanwhile all my friends graduated in 2020 during the pandemic, it was the year I traveled the most and made the best out of my business! 🧑💼
@@MsMoons123you can expand your education without College. If you can read..
Google or TH-cam University. It's free. Employers only care about whether or not you can do the job nowadays...
Yet here we are watching this podcast become one of the most watched after only one day. LOL at a "waste of time".
PBD dropping wisdom.
"Driving people isn't based on what is important to you, its about whats important to them"
@@bluebearaustinI’m curious why you think that?
You don't get paid for highlighting a problem, you get paid for developing solutions. It's amazing to me that the people that complain the most haven't got an ounce of skin in the game which is why I believe every 18 year old should spend two years in the military, peace corp, border patrol, helping to build homes for the homeless or something bro show they are invested in the country. Too many are good at burning stuff down without ever having created anything.
100% beautiful idea!!!! ❤
First SAS video i've ever watched all the way through. And not just because it was PBD, SAS is a great interviewer.
“Why would you bet on Goliath when we got Bet David??” Let’s goooo 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Trash
:)))))))))
King David was 5 foot nothing yet killed the lion and the bear with his bare hands
… Valuetainment, giving value to haters, this world of entrepreneurs…..
A 5ft person with courage, skill, wisdom, and God can do anything. @bluebearaustin
Wow! Feels great to be a free black man. I won't let nobody enslave me and for sure not my own people. If you are free no explaining to the media is necessary on why you have a guests on your show. You can be a liberal, conservative, or independent and vote for whoever you want to vote for when you are a free thinker.
As a black man it was astonishing when I realized:
We are running to the freedom of the right Republicans from the slavery of the leftist Democrats -
Just like we did in the days of the plantations!
SAS is one step closer to feeling good about being a free thinker Coach!✊🏼
Amen 👏👏👏
You said it Perfectly Brother.
Great comment 😊
What people especially in west should have know …Zelensky didn't try to prevent the conflict through diplomacy because he lacks honor and integrity.
In 2014 there was a coup. Soon after, there was a massacre in Odessa (dozens of people were burned alive). Ethnic Russians living in Ukraine were treated as subhuman. Their language and culture was being oppressed. A civil war broke out due to the rise in ethnic tensions. For 8 years the Ukrainian military was indiscriminately shelling civilians living in Donbas.
If Zelensky honored the Minsk agreement and pledged neutrality, none of this would have happened. The 8 year civil war would have ended and Donbas would have remained part of Ukraine. War is the ultimate failure of diplomacy.
Zelensky, Poroshenko, Merkel and Hollande admitted that Ukraine had no intention to honor the Minsk agreements.
Who didn't want peace? Who advised against the 2022 peace talks in April? Hint: someone visited Zelensky in Kiev at that time.
Russia's national security was compromised once NATO began to expand eastwards. Russia clearly stated that Ukraine joining NATO was a red line (November 2021) and unfortunately this concern was never taken seriously. The Russians openly stated: if nothing changes, we will be forced to act in order to defend our national security. Enhancing the national security of one country at the expense of another is unacceptable. The Russians have legitimate security concerns.
20th September, 2021: Ukraine launched military drills with US and NATO.
NATO is not a defensive alliance. NATO illegally bombed Yugoslavia (a direct violation of the U.N. Charter).
We should never forget what they did to Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq etc.
Who blew up the pipeline causing an environmental disaster?
Zelensky banned all opposition and arrested a leading priest.
Zelensky tried to invoke article 5 under false pretenses. Remember the incident in Poland.
Ethnic Russians living in Ukraine were treated as subhuman. Their language and culture was being oppressed.
Poroshenko said, “Our children will go to schools and kindergartens-theirs will hide in the basements”.
Russians will never forget the 2014 Odessa massacre. The whole world needs to know about it.
Why was Denis Kireev eliminated? He was a member of Ukraine's negotiating team during the peace negotiations. He wanted to help his country.
Ukraine has a hit list. They target artists, journalists and ordinary citizens. Hundreds of children are on this list. 13 year old Faina Savenkova was placed on this list.
Pink Floyd's Roger Waters is on this list. Jimmy Dore (American stand-up comedian, podcaster) and Aaron Maté (Canadian writer and journalist) are on this list.
There is evidence that Ukrainian troops have been indiscriminately shelling civilians in Donbas (they used petal mines and targeted areas where there was no military presence).
The azov troops trapped in the azovstal steelworks in Mariupol used human shields. They refused to allow civilians to leave despite of humanitarian corridors being present.
Russia held a proposed cease fire in order for the civilians to leave, but azov would not allow the civilians to leave.
Ukraine has committed many acts of terrorism (car bombs and other forms of assassination). Darya Dugina (journalist) R.I.P.
The first terrorist attack on the Kerch bridge killed the truck driver and the individuals in the adjacent car (innocent civilian victims).
The second terrorist attack on the Kerch bridge killed two parents and severely injured their young daughter.
I have done a lot of research and it took me a long time to write this comment. I have stated a lot of facts and I have given my honest opinion.
I have provided a brief summary of events that took place. In order to explain this whole situation in great detail, a book would need to be written.
Hopefully someone will write an UNBIASED book, stating facts and allowing the readers to form their own judgments. Everything I said can be fact checked and verified...
I want to sincerely thank you for the time and effort u put into letting these things be known. I only wish it could get out to the public, at large. Also, do the people know that they're on a list? I listen to Dore all of the time. I wish YOU would write the book! So long as everything can be fact checked, and I do believe u, then u should get it out, maybe with a ghost writer. God bless you
Been a fan of Patrick for the past year and he’s one of the most amazing people I’ve seen.
If you get offended by that😂😂wear a helmet . Great podcast
PBD, a man of the people. We love Pat ❤️
Thank officer Tatum for me finding your show.
HALLELUJAH!!!!!! OFFICER TATUM!!!!!
@@StickyRice09 Amen
Me too
Bro spent the first half making sure he didn’t get canceled for the second half
Who ever this guy is has changed the way I look at things he makes so much sense .. us democrats need to rethink what’s important and what’s good for OUR COUNTRY .
What did PBD say to make you think you need to change your perspective for the good for the country?
RIGHT ON!!!!
Damn. Hell yea!
Too late the big money lefties has the power and influence.....they have taken over universities,media
I’m also curious as to what made it click for you during this interview?
If you have to apologize for having a conservative or non liberal on that should tell you all know need to know about how much liberals don't want to hear anything that's different from what they believe, and I say that as a liberal. A lot of conservatives/moderates will at least have the discussion.
But never happens the other way...
This guy has said some crazy sh*t though if you’ve ever listened to him. A lot mindless conspiracy sh*t. It’s not even politics
No… It’s because if you don’t do both sides then you appear to have an ideological bias.
Libs can't stand the TRUTH!
Because nobody wants to hear conservatives try to force their version morality and Christianity down our throats. You can't have a real conversation with a bunch of Karens
Wow !! What a guest . PBD dropping gems and just listening to him makes you want to be better . This is the kind of leadership you want for America .
Appreciate you having PBD on. He’s common sense and reasonable.
SAS don’t be scared to get cancelled. Speak what you really feel & we will rally with you.
He’s learning which i respect
Yep and it will only make his brand grow even more
He scared
Right
He's a 🐈
PBD Is that dude! Much Respect!
NO HE'S NOT!
@@3wiseMenX7why not?
Yessss❤
@@3wiseMenX7 You are OUTRATIO'd BIG TIME, so yeah, yous a dum fk.
PBD IS THAT DUDE.
This whole intro to convince his “own” audience to allow open discussion and discourse tells you everything you need to know about these people 😂
The funny thing is that Pat didnt have to apologize for having SAS on his show. I dont even see why people will get mad at what he says? Hes not even a conservative. Hes an independent that has voted for a Republican and Democrat.
Let go of the left Stephen 😊
😂
Nobody wants to supports fascism
He's a independent
I hate how they lie and enslave. Just like back in the day...
@@youngnebula187 No, he is not independent. Dude is on the left, given that he keeps on apologizing to them.
Love ❤️ General Patrick Bet-David
PBD is like the father I’ve always wanted 😂
This dude actually makes a lot of sense. Time for change
I appreciate that SAS will interview someone like PBD. We gotta hear all sides of things to sort out what makes sense and what is true.
"someone like PBD" lmao literally a normal dude
Listening to these men speak on life gives me perspective on alot of things. Greatly appreciated conversation, thank you both🙏
Thanks for listening
Don't let the haters influence you. Don't justify who you talk to or why. Just tell the truth and be courageous in this world full of cowards.
Stephen A's best episode yet. He is indeed a great journalists, knows how to interview, and allows his guests to communicate fluently without cut offs, and cut overs
Did he really spend 10 min basically having to apologize having someone who non liberal on?
Social media venom must be very harsh
YES!
Yes
Exactly!
political correctness.
This part 1 & 2 & 3 is stupid… just post the whole interview
this is why he has a successful podcast and you dont
I agree as a viewer; however, he is able to have 3 times the video sponsors by breaking it up. Personally I’d rather him have a full interview episode and then have a couple shorter clipped videos separated by certain topics…and make his sponsor money that way.
SAS is a hoe for a trillogy. This isn't 2008
@gerryramosftw dude.. like 95% of podcasts are full episodes.. not 30min excerpts. It's a money grab. Only problem is, it's not going to come close to the Katt interview with Sharpe. PBD is a 🐐, tho.
All I ask is that you give the same prefaces and disclaimers if/when you have Liberals and Democrats on.
You’d think he was about to talk to a serial killer with that intro. Geez
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. So true! Dang! What a world we now live in.
Liberals are sensitive.
What planet did I wake up on? THAT 3RD EYE OPEN WE SEE YOU GUYS CMON NOW. Can’t lie to me even if you drugged me blindfolded me and used AI - miss me with that fertilizer fcuking Colonizer
Trump 2024!
No more zionists 2024
2024 weeks in prison!
Being a Homeless Veteran for 10yrs if any of you think it's easy it's not. Nobody cares about our situation Now i make 22k weekly. have a home, a wife, a lovely daughter... And can now contribute to my community. GOD BLESS AMERICA🇺🇸❤️
It's Christina Ann Tucker doing, she's changed my life.
After I raised up to 325k trading with her I bought a new House and a car here in the states 🇺🇸🇺🇸 also paid for my daughter's surgery (Joey). Glory to God.shalom.
I do know Christina A. Tucker, I also have even become successful....
Absolutely! I've heard stories of people who started with little to no knowledge but made it out victoriously thanks to Christina Ann Tucker.
There is her line!!!! look down under this comment!!!! OK
PBD is such an interesting and intelligent man.
It’s funny how smith is treating us like we are children who can’t handle other opinions
Whew! I'm glad Pat is middle eastern - I thought a cross burning klansman was about to come on Stephen's show?!!
😊😅
Lmao he would’ve had to introduce him as a Democrat if that were the case 🫠
😂😂😂
He’s actually an Assyrian the native people of the Middle East I’m one of them 😂 we are far from that our people speak the language of Jesus
@@rahuldahoob :)
SAS why are you pandering to liberals and apologizing for conservatives during your opening monologue?
Because he knows the liberal media is going to criticize him 🤦🏾♂️
He’s a sellout
Too fucin bad!!!
He’s afraid to get cancelled and losing his ESPN contract.
He works for espn that's why
This was the longest intro I’ve ever heard, OMG
Love ya PBD!!
“Confronting and undermining the narratives and ideas of extremism must therefore be one of our key tasks. To do this, we must retain the courage of our convictions in the face of extremism.”
Mr. Smith, men of convictions don’t need justifying. You will be praised and rewarded for the courage to stand up for the truth and you will be a victor from these troubled times that are seeking heroes and genuine leadership!
Say what you want, but these are 2 of the hardest working men in their respected fields of employment.
Agree.
Da other dude yeah but sas he a puppet and this coming from a blacc man dat money can’t buy
Patrick is fraud, research
PBD got rich from a pyramid scheme. Do more than half a second of research
@@user-ug5fd3qo8n facts, can’t believe people still think the fraud that is PBD is respectable in any light
Its crazy Stephen A gets so much hate. Hes one of the only mainstream Democrats I've seen be honest about some of this stuff. Probably why people dislike him i guess? Obviously we disagree on a ton regarding DEI and stuff like that. But hes not as crazy as most of them and will talk to someone with a different opinion
I mean Black People hate Shannon Sharpe and he's as honest as it gets
It's not crazy 😂Steph A is a polarizing man
@@soulcontrolwo6088no we don’t. His show thrives bc of Black people.
That's why he gets the hate.. cause he's open to other views 😂😂
I agree that a lot of democrats are crazy but a lot of republicans are crazy too and blatantly racist
Im a conservative and I love the respect and love and invitation to be a part of your audience. Thank you sir
Been following Patrick for a decade. Guy has his values and conviction in tact.
Soooo what in the world would liberals be so offended by what he said? Please tell me.
Probably coming in part 2. He has strong opinions on LGBT
The truth.. liberals hate the truth.
@@Brazillianboi69 If you really believe in God and Jesus/ the Bible you tend to
Accountability
Despite being a brown man, PBD has made it in America. That goes against the lib narrative.
My first time watching Steph A doing an interview and this was excellent. No questions in front of him and the interview flowed like a good conversation this is the type of skill Joe Rogan. The more natural an interview is the more people gravitate towards it.
Agreed. He's great at follow up questions.
The podcast starts with the most awkward handshake between them 😂
Majority of people whether you consider yourself Left or Right both want the same thing. Maybe we go about them differently but the goal is the same. Unfortunately the main vein of information people consume has decided to divide us by giving the small crazy exaggerated wings of both sides a much louder voice than they should have even though they are a minority. I hope as time moves forward we see the good in ourselves and each other and move past the divisiveness and realize this. Much love and I appreciate these moments. God bless America.
This man Stephen A is going out sad.. scared of the woke mob so he has to warn yall/apologize when a real dude comes on the show. Yall remember this next time Stephen A acts tough 😂
This dude was giving a disclaimer as if he was interviewing David Duke or another WS. Lmao
Look at my two favorite guys at the same table. PBD you are an inspiration ✨️
Wow, this Patrick Bet David is just such a common sense individual. I really like him. Thanks for bringing him on!
PBD on youtube
PBD is one of the view people I got the most respect for on TH-cam! 💪🏾
Damn SAS the intro was over 5 min
"Pleaseeeeeeee don't kick me off the Democrat plantation!!!! My name is Toby!! Toby!! Toby!!"
Y'all getting desperate @@exclamationpointman3852
It was brutal
Shameful
Disgusting
LOVE PBD 🙏🏼👏
Thank you for having him
PBD is total common sense, a Guy clear of his mind, logical, objective and strong on his positions while being very assertive.
PbD is an amazing person.
Love the fact where you try to guess where the storytelling is going, and all of a sudden, it makes sense to the conversation.
Great interview...love PBD
Stephen a smith is one of only out a few ppl that is willing to listen to almost all sides of an argument or a perspective and not let his opinions stop him from having real conversations
Ya but everytime he tongue lashes the left he is back apologizing days later!
@@charliecrowley1070because the left is the ones who be wanting to take your job away from you when you speak your opinion
he sold out!
@@charliecrowley1070so that’s a bad thing ??? He’s a human being it’s what you’re suppose to do when you say the wrong thing take accountability nobody’s perfect but the conversations still need to be had
People’s problems be always trying to highlight another persons wrong doings instead of understanding the underlying problem
@treyharrell689 When you truly believe in something you stick up for it not back down from the mod as the old song says you've got to stand up for something or you will fall for anything. I've seen him stand up and then the back lash made him back down.
I don't remember the surgeon general warning being said before any other guest lol
PBD is the man!! Love the PBD show and his cast and congratulations on your show Stephen A, love to hear both sides!!
glad to see this conversation happening 🔥
PBD is the man
Nah, he wants to sign Stephen A and is selling his soul to do so
@@tRERKAK 😂 you are weird
Patrick Bet David’s future is looking bright! He’s Articulate, intelligent , respectful, and relatable.
Great show. Can’t wait for part two. I love watching conversations between two highly motivated people, you always come away with a few chunks of knowledge you didn’t have before! 🤙🏽
This is a big one
TRUMP 2024!!!
Let's Make America America Again
Can’t even get past the fake intro of apologies by SAS
Respect to Stephen A for having PBD. We need more of this!
This is why Stephen a will win, the more perspectives you allow on your platform, the more people that will follow you.
RESPECT. do more of these! the fans will come
I've watched quite a few Stephen A smith's show and never was interested in what he stands on except when he talks Michael Jordan or sports. This is the first show I actually like, especially it's with Patrick, my man💪🏽🤙🏽 Finally a Great show. 100/100🙌🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Stephen A’s ‘I talk to both sides’ intro screams ‘my audience is close-minded and ignorant’… trust your listeners bud, we can handle it.
The leftists of social media, especially X are going to have a field day with this one 🤣😭 Much props SAS for hearing all points of view, something you would hope all voters do 💯
Watch him apologize
Not the disclaimer that he is talking to someone who might have diverse viewpoints lol
PBD dropping reality on the new eardrums 🤘
💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿 Steven A. I appreciate this interview.
TRIGGER WARNING intro lmaooo
first time clicking play on this channel, and only did so because of Bet-David. I was curious of the dynamics with Stephen A. Cant wait for part 2
Props to Stephen A for for having the balls to go against the grain and have "controversial" non-liberals on his show.
Phenomenal sit down! Crazy we can have first look insight to these men’s minds and we dont have to pay a thing. Much appreciated to both sides and their ability to come together and share ideas and perspectives! 💯