Some say the voice acting is only average, but that's what makes it feel a bit more real, and therefore spooky. These could be real people reading the words they wrote.
@RandomString I feel like "Now We Are Alone" was probably an early, loftier effort. A scientist believing he knows everything. But later, having "tasted the fruit", he sees he's just begun learning. That's my take on it.
4:26 seems to be the ruling quote of today's world. We can only believe that which we want to believe, as long as there is doubt. And doubt, indeed, is the prevailing theory of 2020... This game is a fucking prophecy.
given genetic algoritms have been around since 80s, and neural networks since mid 70-s it is really hard not to predict that these can be used in future to make programs write themselves. Reminder - SMAC is from 1999.
No, not really. "Polysentience" (or Artificial Sentience) is purely science fiction and has no applicable paths in the foreseeable future. What we call Artificial Intelligence these days is just a sophisticated filtering software with a fixed set of options to choose from.
@@creatorsremose You can be pretty reductive and define the human brain as an intelligence with "sophisticated filtering software" with inputs based on observation pulling from a set of memories.
@Robbos the reason not hope is that the sort of hope your talking about blinds us to reality. hope is a blind fold that comforts us because it prevonts us from seeing that brick wall our civlisation is runing towards. i always felt Prokhor was being sarcastic there. sarcastic about science and religion at the same time just in one little quote thats Alpha Centauri for you
i löööööve what Chen-Jiy-Jiang says about Probability Mechanics :D Einstein would've turned over in his grave Not only does god play dice, the dice are loaded :D :D :D
Weeeell.. most of the quotes in SMAC are written by the devs while the quotes in CIVIV are from history ;-) So its a somewhat clunky comparison methinks.
0:44 sister Miriam Godwinson have a point if god is a perfect being why would he create a universe that is inperfect with so much evil proving that god is not the creator ? good argument ?
It's not that she's proving the non-existence of God. It's the fact that she's pointing out the small issue that has been overlooked. Who says God is perfect? There are many different quotes, actions and sources from the Old Testament of the Bible that suggest the Abrahamic God isn't perfect. Many different Eastern Religions have built entirely philosophies around imperfection, and the fact that nothing can be perfect. I can only provide evidence from the Bible, because it is the only religious text I have personally read. But God is often proud of what he has made, and when it is foiled with he commits great acts of wrath. Both Pride and Wrath are sins. Take the story of Adam and Eve. God creates man, to live in and interact with the world he created and all that dwelt in it. Without hunger, pain or strife. Then Satan comes along, and proves that God isn't as infallible as he believes by tricking God's own creations into biting into the Fruits of Knowledge. Which results in Adam and Eve gaining Desire and Envy. When God discovers this, he casts them out of the Garden to live the rest of their days toiling in the fields and valleys. And to ensure no one discovers his mistake again, he places a Cherubim with a Flaming Sword to stand guard over the Garden. God is a mirror for the Universe. God made the universe in his image, as he wanted it. But an imperfect god cannot create perfection. So the universe he made isn't perfect.
@@theblackwidower Depends on individual interpretation. The Catholics believe he's omniscient, omnipresent and in every way perfect. But the likes of the Presbyterians might not believe that, or the Greek Orthodox Church might disagree. You have Fundamentalists, Agnostics and a whole spew of different ideologies and interpretations with every Religion. And they vastly contrast or support each other. Many often view religion as this one sided thing. "This is what this means, and this is the only interpretation that matters." And it just isn't true. To give you an example of just how diverse and different some views of religion is. Theres 30,000 different denominations of Protestantism alone. I can't even tell you how many different denominations of Islam, Buddhism and Taoism there is. Let alone the wide array of lesser known faiths that're still worshipped. The point is. Religion is as divided ideologically and there are thousands of different interpretations that can come from a single piece of holy text. Really, it often depends on the person reading it. My personal view is that the Book of Genesis is a book of metaphors and idioms describing the evolution of man to where we are now. Some people agree. Some don't. It all depends on interpretation.
The fact that someone at all bothered to transcribe the tech quotes into a TH-cam video is just awesome. So awesome.
Datalinks! :)
Some say the voice acting is only average, but that's what makes it feel a bit more real, and therefore spooky. These could be real people reading the words they wrote.
@RandomString I feel like "Now We Are Alone" was probably an early, loftier effort. A scientist believing he knows everything. But later, having "tasted the fruit", he sees he's just begun learning. That's my take on it.
4:26 seems to be the ruling quote of today's world. We can only believe that which we want to believe, as long as there is doubt. And doubt, indeed, is the prevailing theory of 2020...
This game is a fucking prophecy.
2:50 Wow. Talk about a prediction.
given genetic algoritms have been around since 80s, and neural networks since mid 70-s it is really hard not to predict that these can be used in future to make programs write themselves. Reminder - SMAC is from 1999.
No, not really. "Polysentience" (or Artificial Sentience) is purely science fiction and has no applicable paths in the foreseeable future. What we call Artificial Intelligence these days is just a sophisticated filtering software with a fixed set of options to choose from.
@@creatorsremose You can be pretty reductive and define the human brain as an intelligence with "sophisticated filtering software" with inputs based on observation pulling from a set of memories.
Delivered with a beautiful voice without any comprehension of their meaning while saying them.
3:47 Great quote.
@Robbos the reason not hope is that the sort of hope your talking about blinds us to reality. hope is a blind fold that comforts us because it prevonts us from seeing that brick wall our civlisation is runing towards. i always felt Prokhor was being sarcastic there. sarcastic about science and religion at the same time just in one little quote thats Alpha Centauri for you
i löööööve what Chen-Jiy-Jiang says about Probability Mechanics :D
Einstein would've turned over in his grave
Not only does god play dice, the dice are loaded
:D :D :D
the earthen dude abides
IIRC it's Doctrine: Loyalty
@Alignn i do see your point
Nimoy's ramblings? Are you kidding me? Those are actual quotes from real people.
Can anyone tell me which technology it is in 7:04 (Niccolo Machiavalli, Prince). It's been bugging me for ages.
Doctrine: Loyalty
@@shabustinkslol Ahh. Pretty sure Yang starts with that one, and I played Hive a lot. Might be why I didn't remember.
Thanks.
Anyone know a good book with similar themes, wisdom, and such clairvoyance?
Check out some of the fan fiction at Alpha Centauri 2. We’ve invented new quotes. :)
0:34 6:55
True now they don"t make games of this kind.........
In contrary to SMAC which has average voices at best, but with far better acting.and emotional content.
Weeeell.. most of the quotes in SMAC are written by the devs while the quotes in CIVIV are from history ;-)
So its a somewhat clunky comparison methinks.
0:44 sister Miriam Godwinson have a point if god is a perfect being why would he create a universe that is inperfect with so much evil proving that god is not the creator ?
good argument ?
@frederikIII Exactly, who would have thought a religious zealot (albeit fictional) could manage to prove the non-existence of god.
It's not that she's proving the non-existence of God. It's the fact that she's pointing out the small issue that has been overlooked. Who says God is perfect?
There are many different quotes, actions and sources from the Old Testament of the Bible that suggest the Abrahamic God isn't perfect. Many different Eastern Religions have built entirely philosophies around imperfection, and the fact that nothing can be perfect.
I can only provide evidence from the Bible, because it is the only religious text I have personally read. But God is often proud of what he has made, and when it is foiled with he commits great acts of wrath. Both Pride and Wrath are sins. Take the story of Adam and Eve. God creates man, to live in and interact with the world he created and all that dwelt in it. Without hunger, pain or strife. Then Satan comes along, and proves that God isn't as infallible as he believes by tricking God's own creations into biting into the Fruits of Knowledge. Which results in Adam and Eve gaining Desire and Envy. When God discovers this, he casts them out of the Garden to live the rest of their days toiling in the fields and valleys. And to ensure no one discovers his mistake again, he places a Cherubim with a Flaming Sword to stand guard over the Garden.
God is a mirror for the Universe. God made the universe in his image, as he wanted it. But an imperfect god cannot create perfection. So the universe he made isn't perfect.
@@devildog7792 That's odd. Because I thought the whole point was that God is omniscient, omnipresent, and in every way perfect.
@@theblackwidower Depends on individual interpretation. The Catholics believe he's omniscient, omnipresent and in every way perfect. But the likes of the Presbyterians might not believe that, or the Greek Orthodox Church might disagree.
You have Fundamentalists, Agnostics and a whole spew of different ideologies and interpretations with every Religion. And they vastly contrast or support each other.
Many often view religion as this one sided thing. "This is what this means, and this is the only interpretation that matters." And it just isn't true. To give you an example of just how diverse and different some views of religion is. Theres 30,000 different denominations of Protestantism alone. I can't even tell you how many different denominations of Islam, Buddhism and Taoism there is. Let alone the wide array of lesser known faiths that're still worshipped.
The point is. Religion is as divided ideologically and there are thousands of different interpretations that can come from a single piece of holy text. Really, it often depends on the person reading it. My personal view is that the Book of Genesis is a book of metaphors and idioms describing the evolution of man to where we are now. Some people agree. Some don't. It all depends on interpretation.