It's kind of wild we lasted so long with out it. War was around before man. It will be here long after we are gone. We must be strong if we want peace.
Russia built defense line across Ukraine captured territory. Ukraine is doing the same. Defense doctrine is as needed as offensive. It's a defense line that creates a spring board for successful offense. According to Western defense doctrine.
@@HulkJustice russia defense is open defense while ukraine build solid cement and steel bunkers for soldiers which is showed every details inside of the bunkers and materials.
The FAB3000 will do nothing. It is wonder waffle. It relies on Ukraine having no air-defence and no counter-air assets. And if you blow a hole in a trenchline you still have the problem of an attack being concentrated in a small area - ripe for artillery pickings. Nevermind the minefield.
@@ptonpc HIMARS is not that strong in terms of damage it's just very accurate, fast and hard to intercept, more like a surgical weapon that works on undefended targets - ships, vehicles or really small buildings, and for trenches like these you need a sledgehammer, which is exactly what FAB-3000 is.
Russia makes 3 million Shells a year. The entire western world can barely make 1 million. Even if the west gets involved with troops. The west lacks the ability to arm there own troops.
You do realise that anything can be destroyed? Everything is a compromise, besides, for all your russkie owners know, these video could be of prototypes or of tempt russia into certain manoeuvrers.
@@giftrichard4745 To be blunt. Trench building on this scale leaves marks on the ground that will be visible to recce air craft / drones / space craft in low orbit. Their presence is not a secret So, think about why a nation that is trying to protect its soldiers as much as a it can, fighting a defensive war at this time, would want to give those soldiers protection?
The doorway will be inside the trench and hard to directly hit, will also probably have a sandbag /log wall built in front and looks like its very thick solid steel, the sides and roof will most likely have 5+ feet of soil/logs placed against it, id would say it would take multiple direct hits to penetrate, this is 10x better than any fortifcation ive seen so far in this war which was usually a hole with logs on it and maybe 2 feet of soil, at least its something =0
Летом увидишь как будут разносить эти нелепые "мега сооружения" при помощи трёхтонных авиабомб. Вы больные? Если 80 лет назад такие укрепления нацистам не помогли, то с чего вы взяли что сегодня они остоноват Россию? Вы совсем ёбнутые?😂
@@Сверхчеловекквадрате Если эти сооружения не остановили советские воиска в войне с германией, то почему они решили что сегодня они остановят российские воиска? Я поражаюсь от этой тупости! Ниодна оборона не будет иметь успехов без огневой мощи. Что толку что они ям накопают? Ямы не останавливали никого и никогда. На любую яму найдётся переправа. И на любой ДОТ найдётся своя бомба или снаряд. Это лишь затягивание времени.
@@N17C1So you mean Russia is losing while "Retreating" foward and Ukraine is "Advacing" Backwards?😂🤡 I've never seen a Chinese quad bike, what are you smoking? Ukraine is getting beat by "Soviet Era" Equipment. What happened to the "Game Changers" and the "Counteroffensive"?🤡🤡
It actually makes sense to have similar design features since these bunkers need to be able to limit water infiltration too, just in the opposite direction (inwards rather than outwards).
@@diegoflores9237 And Russia is about to take Kyiv ?? Your troops can only take abandoned trenches - doesn't say much for Russian capabilities with Ukrainian's low on ammunition , still able hold back the invaders with so little .
Shouldn't the trenches have more traverse? Seem long and straight. They need to check the manuals on trenches from WW1. They had a whole science about it. A lot of blood went into gaining that knowledge
450,000 dead orcs and counting. Russia sold out to China. India no longer buying Russian oil as cheap drones bomb Soviet refineries. For a small nation, Ukraine is holding out like Finland did in the winter war. While the East remains tyrannical as always.
Indeed. That those trenches were probably ordered to be built, by the high command of the Maidan Ukraine; in order to protect the extensive areas; where the makeshift clandestine military cemeteries, were built. In order to leave almost 250k Ukrainian families, still waiting to know about: what happened to their loved ones; that were "abducted," I mean "recruited," to go fight against the "enemies," of the Nato and E.U. expansionism/imperialism, towards some of the main ancient Russian lands.
This is just a showcase for the media. Most forts budget went to some politician, construction, and generals pockets. There's a video of Kharkiv 2nd defense line showing these "trenches" as a 2x1m digs with 3, max 4 logs on top lol
@@Dudedontgiveup Your chronology is all wrong. Wagner's march happened in June at the same time the Ukrainians were only starting their counter-offensive and Russians were on the defense up until the end of September and after that they were on the offense, gaining ground every day even though in very small chunks but still. And didn't you really hear about the loss of Avdiivka in February? That was a really big loss for Ukrainians, because it will help Russians to reactivated a major logistic rail hub that was under the Avdiivka's artillery control for many years.
no defence can help vs enemy who has superior firepower and numbers so Ukraine copying Surovikin line will fail ! as for these new build strongholds well Avdievka has fallen and has been built up and prepared by nato since 2014 !
And Avdiika was taken by such overwhelming Russian force that Ukrainians abandoned their positions in a panic, leaving behind all munitions and wounded.
@@hgkwbsx7WOW...17,000 Russians killed, 30,000 Russians injured, plus 364 tanks, 248 artillery systems, 748 armored fighting vehicles, and five aircraft destroyed in Avdiivka. WOW, sure, what an overwhelming force the Russians are.
In WW1 German's had better trenches than the Brits, as the German's were wanting to stay put and the Brits were attempting to advance. Sadly same is happening here
@@DomWood See Maj.Gen. F.W. von Mellenthin's narratives on field fortifications in his book, "Panzer Battles". He was Rommel's Intel officer and then chief of staff. And give a look to field engineering during the American Civil War. Some of the engineers on both sides were masters at breast works and field fortifications.
Ukraine is being used to fight Russia with out the loss of American lives. Ukrainian lives mean nothing to the US. Hence why the average fighting age has gone from 32 to 43.
Ukraine will never stop fighting for its country. Ever. Leave before Russia looses an entire generation of young men for nothing. Idiotic nationalism is all Russia has. Is Russia so awful it must inflict its misery of its neighbors.
Si los ucranianos no tienen armas es porque los rusos no les an dejado que los Ucranianos tengan sus propias armas, los rusos llevan décadas acumulando harmas , Los Ucranianos no ganan por la ayuda militar, ganan porque son más valientes I mejores que los rusos,
Yep that’s trench warfare coming back hard. When everyone has the same fire powers as you, you need cover, what better cover than fox holes and trenches.
@@slayersboxer915 Does it look like Winning? I guess not.Right now Russia has an Advantage,like they had when the War started. Then they got slapped back rly Hard and now we Wait. So tell me against Little Russian Fanboy how is he Winning? Cause they captured...5km in the last 2 Month and lost thirty thousands of Military Personal and Tanks and other stuff? Btw How are the Oil Raffineries in Russia Burning? Heard it quite hot near them. And aslong as the Ukrainians defend THEIRE HOMELAND . Putin isnt winning. I know its hard for u to understand.
@@slayersboxer915in what way? Because if anything, Putin already lost. Russia achieved none of their war goals. And even if Russia overrun Ukraine(which would take a few hundred years at the rate the front is moving) they will be left with a gorilla infested ruin right on their border. Not exactly winning.
Mas não disseram que a Rússia tinha armamento obsoleto, sem munição e que lutavam inclusive com pás? Pensei que o otanistão já estivesse entrando em Moscou.
In WW2 Germany had superior troops and equipment....but Russia had the numbers...looks like we have learned nothing....cheap mass produced shells ammo etc wins the day...especially against Russia....attrition rules with them.
This is actually what military strategy in most civilization game I played and it's very realistic.I usually don't have a better military forces most in my late game in the modern era and when I compare the Ukraine and Russia war it's almost the same of what I seen in my video game.I got a surprise attack from a superior civilization with a more military force and lose some control territory,but I was able to stop them with prepared fortification of forts or entrenched infantry able to withstand countless attack.Usually I would be in a stalemate until the a weak point of enemy position is shown after the continuous exchange of artillery rounds and battle for air superiority and I can say trench warfare is still effective unless you or your enemy have alot of long range precision missile or unconventional weapon(or mabye in the near future orbital strike).
The only difference is in a game you're playing against a computer dummy, which is really weak in Civ games, in reality you're defending against a human opponent which can improvise and develop new tactics on the go and who's also not bounded by game rules and mechanics. And also Russia does have a lot of missiles, way more than Ukraine currently has, so at this moment these Ukrainian defenses look kinda week, but we'll see, maybe NATO will start funding Ukraine once again after the US elections.
🙃 Hmm, let me think... So a Russian FAB-1500 gliding bomb creates a crater apx. 50 meters wide and 5-6 meters deep, plus there is now FAB-3000. Well, I am not really convinced that 2-3m deep trench even with all that reinforced concrete bunker going really help against FAB-1500, 3000; to be honest with you I don't think it would protect you even from FAB-500 gliding bomb.
Hmm let me think ??😂😂 and how do you target it with a FAB when you vsn not see it ??? And don't know where it is ?? You made yourself look silly 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Russia certainly isn't. This has been a disaster and shows how weak the Russian military really is. Every western analyst thought this would be over in 3 weeks. Nearly 3 years later and Putin has to keep resorting to nuclear scare mongering to try and keep some sort of face. He knows his days are numbered. This latest terrorist attack will show to Russians that Putin is scared and desperate. Even if he's overthrown tomorrow, Russia will still take 50 years to recover from this disaster. I hope you are prepared for the massive numbers of immigrants Russia will need to rebuild its economy and population.
Way too thin bunkers. If these get hit it will still deform and the brittle concrete will shatter on the inside wall turning the inside into hell. Most people know that effect, either hitting a plastic container which has an icy layer on the inside, or a metal plate which has thick paint on one side. But I guess, they don't know what else to do.
There's no real expectation that these bunkers would survive a direct hit. Building bunkers that strong can't be done at the scale needed to build a defensive line all the way across Ukraine. Instead, these are supposed to protect against fragmentation from near misses, which they are more than capable of. Actual command bunkers and such will be much more heavily built. In some of the videos released by the RuAF, the FAB-1500 may have a CEP radius of 10+ meters. If that's the case, these would provide pretty decent protection even against them.
@@dancingferret6654I mean, these things are not really bunkers, they could bury freight containers and it would achieve the same thing, maybe pour a bit of concrete on the outside, would also be cheaper and faster. Just imagine Ukraine getting a few thousand shipping containers, these "bunkers" they are building seems more like spending money on a construction business who is friends with Zelensky if you catch my drift. Most anything will protect you from near miss shrapnel, I think shipping containers buried at a decent depth would be more than sufficient. And for more earthworks I am kinda baffled that the US doesn't send them a million hesco bags to build fortifications. Kinda strange. Or maybe I missed that, but you don't see those anywhere.
Hope the Ukrainians put ductwork in for drainage all jokes aside trench foot and frostbite is still a killer and if theyre serious about trenches they should be made to keep their men as dry and protected as possible water builds up damn fast in those things
Ukraine will never stop fighting for its country. Ever. Leave before Russia looses an entire generation of young men for nothing. Idiotic nationalism is all Russia has. Is Russia so awful it must inflict its misery of its neighbors.
They need only be deep enough to be functional and protect troops from shells. Anything more then a shell would destroy almost anything so its pointless digging them deeper.
You wouldn’t think this is Europe in 2024. It’s ridiculous conflict like this happens, this day & age.
People always thought that such belongs to Africa, the middle East, Asia and South America.
But human hate knows no Geography
As long as we cherish our borders, there will be wars, forever and ever.
We thought we’d seen the last of the classic 20th century fascist dictators. We thought wrong.
It's kind of wild we lasted so long with out it. War was around before man. It will be here long after we are gone. We must be strong if we want peace.
We have "seen the last of the classic 20th century fascist dictators". This is fascist dictator 2.0 21st Century Schizoid Man.
Jeez. 100 years later we’ve learned nothing.
Win-Win Cooperation is the ONLY WAY to ensure mutual survival.
A naive view, the same families who profited from Waterloo bleed both sides of money.
We've learned to spot Hitler type's very easily. Putin is exactly like him.
@@iUUkk What's that got to do with modern trench warfare? Are you going to insult the Russians to death are you? How's that going?
YEAH EXACTLY!!
I thought Ukraine was winning, and Russia was fighting with shovels and spare washing machine parts?
Rusia has no advance anymore. It's a really bad how Rusia leđ
@@NikD7 Russia is advancing every single day. Ukraine is unable to stop them.
@@NikD7they keep taking new territories. The progress is slow tho
I hear russia has now lost belgorod and a few neighboring towns.
😂😂😂@@DuaneHallinSD
Maginot line in France and Siegfried Line of Germany come to mind.
The German just won't round
Those bunkers had guns.
@@YouCountSheep these bunkers will also have guns
they dont really have much of a choice. All they can do now is hold on and pray the west comes to save them..........
Russia built defense line across Ukraine captured territory. Ukraine is doing the same. Defense doctrine is as needed as offensive. It's a defense line that creates a spring board for successful offense. According to Western defense doctrine.
And they showed it to media every details
@@HulkJustice russia defense is open defense while ukraine build solid cement and steel bunkers for soldiers which is showed every details inside of the bunkers and materials.
Could be decoy...
@@archiearevalo5648 Front line bunkers haven't changed sinces WW2. All bunkers are made from reinforced concrete. Everything Russia already know
Crazy. Now they know what a bunker looks like.
FAB - 3000 will ruin this
Way overkill
They've all been used in Belgorod to suppress the Russians turning against Putin :p
The FAB3000 will do nothing. It is wonder waffle.
It relies on Ukraine having no air-defence and no counter-air assets.
And if you blow a hole in a trenchline you still have the problem of an attack being concentrated in a small area - ripe for artillery pickings. Nevermind the minefield.
Pfttt the Russians are afraid to put a plane in the air as they immediately shot down.
This won't sustain even FAB-500, even less so - FAB-1500. But, hey, nice PR by Zelensky!
That's not a fortress that's a coffin
FAB-3000 which now can glide: "What a cute spacious grave you've installed there!"
*laughs in HIMARS / GLSDB etc* Comrade, your owners have been using trenches too, they make sense, unlike the usual vatnik.
@@ptonpcHIMARS have all been destroyed in Ukrainia 😅
Where was Himars during this period? How many Himars compared to FAB-500,1000,1500,3000?@@ptonpc
@@ptonpc HIMARS is not that strong in terms of damage it's just very accurate, fast and hard to intercept, more like a surgical weapon that works on undefended targets - ships, vehicles or really small buildings, and for trenches like these you need a sledgehammer, which is exactly what FAB-3000 is.
himars cant destroy GLIDING fab bombs. that why they winveted the gliding drop@@ptonpc
I thought Russia ran out of ammo and rockets years ago 😂😂😂
These bunkers and trenches are trifles for the Russian FAB gliding bombs.
Russia makes 3 million Shells a year. The entire western world can barely make 1 million. Even if the west gets involved with troops. The west lacks the ability to arm there own troops.
north Korea and Iran helped a bit
You are utterly disillusioned
@@Arnold_Slater1223 Our education system pumps out gender confused fragile clowns. So Russias education system cant be any worst.
And they show this in advance on social medias to help russian choose a suitable weapons capable of destroying them
The positions are also going to be geolocated
It's centuries old technology...
You do realise that anything can be destroyed? Everything is a compromise, besides, for all your russkie owners know, these video could be of prototypes or of tempt russia into certain manoeuvrers.
@@giftrichard4745 To be blunt. Trench building on this scale leaves marks on the ground that will be visible to recce air craft / drones / space craft in low orbit. Their presence is not a secret So, think about why a nation that is trying to protect its soldiers as much as a it can, fighting a defensive war at this time, would want to give those soldiers protection?
These are the same people who told the world their plans for it's counter offensive
That concrete is no thicker than my house's septic tank!
Looks like it's steel reinforced, good enough to stop bullets and indirect artillery hits
Эта сталь и разлетится в клочья в украинцев
The doorway will be inside the trench and hard to directly hit, will also probably have a sandbag /log wall built in front and looks like its very thick solid steel, the sides and roof will most likely have 5+ feet of soil/logs placed against it, id would say it would take multiple direct hits to penetrate, this is 10x better than any fortifcation ive seen so far in this war which was usually a hole with logs on it and maybe 2 feet of soil, at least its something =0
No thicker than that skull if yours then I guess.
@@JustSomeRandom-nf3uq Snapped a nerve in that thick head of yours eh. You must be living in misery. Aw poor you.
Watch out for those shovels!!!!
At least the Ukranians are building a permanent wall giving the east section of the country to Russia
the ukronazis are just copying the Surovikin line!! the thing they have mocked for over a year
That's a game changer 😂
I saw sections of these pre-cast trench buildings on the back of a lorry in the UK
No you didn't. They are used in the uk for other reasons
No. Britain used them in Brechin for training. The USA are hoping to conquer us via The EU remember.
Those poor souls aren't building trenches and bunkers, they're digging their own graves.
This should have been done 10 years ago.
Летом увидишь как будут разносить эти нелепые "мега сооружения" при помощи трёхтонных авиабомб.
Вы больные? Если 80 лет назад такие укрепления нацистам не помогли, то с чего вы взяли что сегодня они остоноват Россию? Вы совсем ёбнутые?😂
Они так и сделали. В Авдеевке. Это им не помогло
@@Сверхчеловекквадрате Если эти сооружения не остановили советские воиска в войне с германией, то почему они решили что сегодня они остановят российские воиска? Я поражаюсь от этой тупости! Ниодна оборона не будет иметь успехов без огневой мощи. Что толку что они ям накопают? Ямы не останавливали никого и никогда. На любую яму найдётся переправа. И на любой ДОТ найдётся своя бомба или снаряд. Это лишь затягивание времени.
@@Сверхчеловекквадрате Только из-за нападок злой России
@@ConnorPritchard__1999 "злая" Россия не даёт "доброй" Украине обстреливать собственных граждан, ужас
Concrete coffins.....
lol, the west was laughing at dragons teeth, now they copy lol
Not much is needed to stop the Chinese quad bikes that the Russian soldiers are using because all of their IFVs and tanks have been destroyed
@@N17C1If the Russian military is so poorly equipped, why can’t they be defeated by the super duper high-tech weapons of the West?😂
@@Notrusboti wonder
Yes because the quality of the dragon teeth it was not really bolted to the ground and did not take significant effort to move
@@N17C1So you mean Russia is losing while "Retreating" foward and Ukraine is "Advacing" Backwards?😂🤡 I've never seen a Chinese quad bike, what are you smoking? Ukraine is getting beat by "Soviet Era" Equipment. What happened to the "Game Changers" and the "Counteroffensive"?🤡🤡
Kinda funny, the prefab concrete bunkers look exactly like septic tanks...
Makes sense when you think of its content.....
It actually makes sense to have similar design features since these bunkers need to be able to limit water infiltration too, just in the opposite direction (inwards rather than outwards).
@@diegoflores9237Your content is scattered all over the battlefields .
@@shaneb315Russia keeps taking Ukrainian fortified positions and Ukraine keeps begging on its knees for more weapons
@@diegoflores9237 And Russia is about to take Kyiv ?? Your troops can only take abandoned trenches - doesn't say much for Russian capabilities with Ukrainian's low on ammunition , still able hold back the invaders with so little .
The remnents of the fortifications around Richmond, Virginia are still visible.
Didn't have bunker buster bomb either
@@robertlee810 I had it in the back of my mind that either side would start prefabbing the major components to streamline the operation.
I live there!
@@2020sIImy condolences
What is that? US civil war?
Shouldn't the trenches have more traverse? Seem long and straight. They need to check the manuals on trenches from WW1. They had a whole science about it. A lot of blood went into gaining that knowledge
They know that they are just for show, and cannot possibly hold the Russian's for long anyway.
Good test for FAB3000
even better test for Patriots
@@mirific87 No more patriots son.
That's overkill
They are crazy.
To anyone who thinks the ukraine is "winning"....these trenches are wayyyyy behind the current frontline....even they know they are losing
@@Joeyknows924it's going well economically the west is sinking hard in the red (inflation) 😮
@@Joeyknows924
2 years and still your brain is as delusional and moronic. 😂😂😂😂
you can't build trench systems near the front without losses, drones are everywhere.
450,000 dead orcs and counting.
Russia sold out to China.
India no longer buying Russian oil as cheap drones bomb Soviet refineries.
For a small nation, Ukraine is holding out like Finland did in the winter war.
While the East remains tyrannical as always.
Indeed. That those trenches were probably ordered to be built, by the high command of the Maidan Ukraine; in order to protect the extensive areas; where the makeshift clandestine military cemeteries, were built. In order to leave almost 250k Ukrainian families, still waiting to know about: what happened to their loved ones; that were "abducted," I mean "recruited," to go fight against the "enemies," of the Nato and E.U. expansionism/imperialism, towards some of the main ancient Russian lands.
iskander missile is laughing 😂
So where are these fortifications? Russians just walked passed without any resistance
This is just a showcase for the media. Most forts budget went to some politician, construction, and generals pockets. There's a video of Kharkiv 2nd defense line showing these "trenches" as a 2x1m digs with 3, max 4 logs on top lol
all these trenches should of been dug a year ago
even earlier
Actually there was. But due to corruption it was not funded and it was on 2014
Ten years ago.
@@DudedontgiveupInteresting analytics. Have you seen it on the BBC or 'Ukrainian Pravda'?
@@Dudedontgiveup Your chronology is all wrong. Wagner's march happened in June at the same time the Ukrainians were only starting their counter-offensive and Russians were on the defense up until the end of September and after that they were on the offense, gaining ground every day even though in very small chunks but still. And didn't you really hear about the loss of Avdiivka in February? That was a really big loss for Ukrainians, because it will help Russians to reactivated a major logistic rail hub that was under the Avdiivka's artillery control for many years.
And then Russia just bypasses the trenches😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
They did the same thing in Avdievka and around that area with NATO assistance, but it stopped FABS from cracking these concrete defensive postions
no defence can help vs enemy who has superior firepower and numbers so Ukraine copying Surovikin line will fail ! as for these new build strongholds well Avdievka has fallen and has been built up and prepared by nato since 2014 !
@@TheBorg01 Can't make adequate defenses in an active war zone, all these are being built in peaceful areas.
And Avdiika was taken by such overwhelming Russian force that Ukrainians abandoned their positions in a panic, leaving behind all munitions and wounded.
@@hgkwbsx7WOW...17,000 Russians killed, 30,000 Russians injured, plus 364 tanks, 248 artillery systems, 748 armored fighting vehicles, and five aircraft destroyed in Avdiivka. WOW, sure, what an overwhelming force the Russians are.
Lol. The Russians lost some 50k men there and the withdrawal was very clean as some Russian milblogers themselves have complained
Every country should build like this.
So, is Ukraine building a border with Russia?
Russia has never stopped fighting WWII ... we just weren't paying attention, now are.
Então por que ficar 10 anoa consecutivos atacando verbalmente a Rússia? 😂😂😂
@@paulograzioli8859 Eh? What are you talking about? who are you talking about? and why 10 years?
Fair enough..but do they have kettles and tea making facilities?
War, it’s a disaster 🫶🕊📚🧠
Beautiful field fortifications ! Much better designed than what the Russians have anywhere.
It is still on debate wheater they are functional or are able to disperse Russian forces during a fire fight.
In WW1 German's had better trenches than the Brits, as the German's were wanting to stay put and the Brits were attempting to advance. Sadly same is happening here
@@oliverlane9716 Still , there is no guarantee that those fortifications migth sustain long siege attacks.
@@MiguelJimenez-hc7ch No "debate". I have seen hundreds of videos showing precisely what you question.
@@DomWood See Maj.Gen. F.W. von Mellenthin's narratives on field fortifications in his book, "Panzer Battles". He was Rommel's Intel officer and then chief of staff. And give a look to field engineering during the American Civil War. Some of the engineers on both sides were masters at breast works and field fortifications.
And here I thought I wouldn't see any HESCOs this war....
If only palestian have this kind of support
Ukraine is being used to fight Russia with out the loss of American lives. Ukrainian lives mean nothing to the US. Hence why the average fighting age has gone from 32 to 43.
Do they have separate ladies bunkers with nicer decor. I hope so.
Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦
Americans aren't ready for this type of warfare 😂😂😂😂
Impressive structre. Well done to the engineers! As a welder myself best pf luck to everyone there
Fab 1500 is waiting
That won't stop Russian advancing
no, but they will deplete the manpower at an alarming rate. Incoming mobilisation bro
@@mirific87 Source, Trust me bro?
Ukraine will never stop fighting for its country. Ever. Leave before Russia looses an entire generation of young men for nothing. Idiotic nationalism is all Russia has. Is Russia so awful it must inflict its misery of its neighbors.
The new coffins.
Lol Russian took it
Fab 3000 has entered the chat 😀.
This war is like Russia vs Nato
without nato?
@@emsti518 bro without the help of nato do you think Ukrainian will stand against the Russian even for a week??
@@MrGaba911 I mean , without nato in military way. Help it’s help. All west are interested in helping Ukraine
@@emsti518 yeah.. If not Ukrainian doesn't stand a chance.
Si los ucranianos no tienen armas es porque los rusos no les an dejado que los Ucranianos tengan sus propias armas, los rusos llevan décadas acumulando harmas ,
Los Ucranianos no ganan por la ayuda militar, ganan porque son más valientes
I mejores que los rusos,
Yep that’s trench warfare coming back hard. When everyone has the same fire powers as you, you need cover, what better cover than fox holes and trenches.
They can build whatever they want, ucraine will not exist in the next future
God Bless Ukraine.
dragons teeth are good now? 😅 when russsia used them back in 2022-23 it was a joke and posed no threat to tanks 😅😅
They shouldn't t unpack and settle in, they wont be there long.
Negotiate now, Zelensky. Keep what you have left.
U mean Putin..
@@marclohnhardt6420 you realize putin is winning this war...right?
@@slayersboxer915 Does it look like Winning? I guess not.Right now Russia has an Advantage,like they had when the War started. Then they got slapped back rly Hard and now we Wait.
So tell me against Little Russian Fanboy how is he Winning? Cause they captured...5km in the last 2 Month and lost thirty thousands of Military Personal and Tanks and other stuff? Btw How are the Oil Raffineries in Russia Burning? Heard it quite hot near them.
And aslong as the Ukrainians defend THEIRE HOMELAND . Putin isnt winning. I know its hard for u to understand.
@@slayersboxer915in what way? Because if anything, Putin already lost. Russia achieved none of their war goals. And even if Russia overrun Ukraine(which would take a few hundred years at the rate the front is moving) they will be left with a gorilla infested ruin right on their border. Not exactly winning.
Comrade vatnik, you're supposed to turn use the text of page 22. Not 19. Try again.
It took half a year for the Russians to build the Surovikin Line. Good luck.
Ukraine is using Russian technology of defence line dragon teeth
Жалкое подобие.
Mas não disseram que a Rússia tinha armamento obsoleto, sem munição e que lutavam inclusive com pás? Pensei que o otanistão já estivesse entrando em Moscou.
They go deeper glide bombs get bigger...
and the birds that deliver them dive deeper.
No they go higer so they can glide firther
Erm can they withstand a nuke?🤔
can Moscow? Ask for a stupid Russian Friend...
U enter and cant escape😂
Why no waterproofing on the top of sleeping quarters ?
Just stop already. Just stop.
Putin can return his killers to their own country any time
Does it work in Avdivvka ?
Teste da FAB 3000.
In the age of drone and cyberwarfare, trenches are still the king for defensive war
Lol no, artillery is but only because nukes are not being used.
In WW2 Germany had superior troops and equipment....but Russia had the numbers...looks like we have learned nothing....cheap mass produced shells ammo etc wins the day...especially against Russia....attrition rules with them.
Just a nice show piece for the media, the real trenches are hardly 2 feet deep with a few spots dug into the ground here and there
Russian's are watching this and taking detailed notes .. good job
FAB will dig it with ease
Looks like a tomb
It does indeed
Why Ukrainians building the bunkers? I thought Russia ran out of ammo and rockets years ago!!!
220,000 Russian KIA and Russia still stuck on the eastern fringes of Ukraine
This is actually what military strategy in most civilization game I played and it's very realistic.I usually don't have a better military forces most in my late game in the modern era and when I compare the Ukraine and Russia war it's almost the same of what I seen in my video game.I got a surprise attack from a superior civilization with a more military force and lose some control territory,but I was able to stop them with prepared fortification of forts or entrenched infantry able to withstand countless attack.Usually I would be in a stalemate until the a weak point of enemy position is shown after the continuous exchange of artillery rounds and battle for air superiority and I can say trench warfare is still effective unless you or your enemy have alot of long range precision missile or unconventional weapon(or mabye in the near future orbital strike).
The only difference is in a game you're playing against a computer dummy, which is really weak in Civ games, in reality you're defending against a human opponent which can improvise and develop new tactics on the go and who's also not bounded by game rules and mechanics. And also Russia does have a lot of missiles, way more than Ukraine currently has, so at this moment these Ukrainian defenses look kinda week, but we'll see, maybe NATO will start funding Ukraine once again after the US elections.
@@imyarek Make sense,but I was playing on a hard difficulty and military do use A.I for training and simulation.
There you go now they are thinking set up traps bombs
🙃 Hmm, let me think...
So a Russian FAB-1500 gliding bomb creates a crater apx. 50 meters wide and 5-6 meters deep, plus there is now FAB-3000.
Well, I am not really convinced that 2-3m deep trench even with all that reinforced concrete bunker going really help against FAB-1500, 3000; to be honest with you I don't think it would protect you even from FAB-500 gliding bomb.
This is supossed to stop artillery, for airplanes Ukraine has state-of-the-art Patriot system.
@@UnoAluminiothe cost of the fab and patriot salvo are not comparable.
@@UnoAluminio Thats what iskander is for.
@@mejust8392Jokes on you, the toilet block is placed elsewhere.
Hmm let me think ??😂😂 and how do you target it with a FAB when you vsn not see it ??? And don't know where it is ?? You made yourself look silly 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I WISH THEM GOOD LUCK! HAVE A NICE CHRISTMAS!
DMZ is the new reality
Is it nuclear proof? 😂
These podcasters think were stupid to believe in their propaganda!!
I year ago they were screaming about pushing Russia out now😂😂😂😂
FAB-5000 resistant?
Waste of money and human lives
thank vlad the mad for that
just made by comedian president
How will they fare against FAB-3000 and above?
I thought that Ukraine was winning? 🤔
Заткнись.
Russia certainly isn't. This has been a disaster and shows how weak the Russian military really is. Every western analyst thought this would be over in 3 weeks. Nearly 3 years later and Putin has to keep resorting to nuclear scare mongering to try and keep some sort of face. He knows his days are numbered. This latest terrorist attack will show to Russians that Putin is scared and desperate. Even if he's overthrown tomorrow, Russia will still take 50 years to recover from this disaster. I hope you are prepared for the massive numbers of immigrants Russia will need to rebuild its economy and population.
Way too thin bunkers. If these get hit it will still deform and the brittle concrete will shatter on the inside wall turning the inside into hell. Most people know that effect, either hitting a plastic container which has an icy layer on the inside, or a metal plate which has thick paint on one side. But I guess, they don't know what else to do.
There's no real expectation that these bunkers would survive a direct hit. Building bunkers that strong can't be done at the scale needed to build a defensive line all the way across Ukraine. Instead, these are supposed to protect against fragmentation from near misses, which they are more than capable of. Actual command bunkers and such will be much more heavily built.
In some of the videos released by the RuAF, the FAB-1500 may have a CEP radius of 10+ meters. If that's the case, these would provide pretty decent protection even against them.
@@dancingferret6654I mean, these things are not really bunkers, they could bury freight containers and it would achieve the same thing, maybe pour a bit of concrete on the outside, would also be cheaper and faster. Just imagine Ukraine getting a few thousand shipping containers, these "bunkers" they are building seems more like spending money on a construction business who is friends with Zelensky if you catch my drift.
Most anything will protect you from near miss shrapnel, I think shipping containers buried at a decent depth would be more than sufficient. And for more earthworks I am kinda baffled that the US doesn't send them a million hesco bags to build fortifications. Kinda strange. Or maybe I missed that, but you don't see those anywhere.
Slava Ucraina 💛💚💙
wait .... civilians are building it ?
FAB 3000 😂
Hope the Ukrainians put ductwork in for drainage all jokes aside trench foot and frostbite is still a killer and if theyre serious about trenches they should be made to keep their men as dry and protected as possible water builds up damn fast in those things
They probably made 2 of those and the rest are ww1 trenches
Will these stand against thermobaric bombs of Russia?
Its clear.. no one is gonna win this war
Its a stalemate
Russia has 200% larger population and 1000% greater industrial output. There is no scenario where Ukraine stalemates Russia.
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The Russian have seen the locations and the designs, probably computing a counter weapon to destroy these tunnels, at least you can be sure about it.
That wil simply becoming the future and definitive border with Russia if you ask me!
Ukraine will never stop fighting for its country. Ever. Leave before Russia looses an entire generation of young men for nothing. Idiotic nationalism is all Russia has. Is Russia so awful it must inflict its misery of its neighbors.
Nah they will lose all access to the sea if they decide enough is enough but if they refuse they will lose everything.
2 years later….
Who built it the Raynes😂
What happened to barbed wire, I don’t recall seeing any during this war, and as it resembles WW1 surely it would be as effective as then.
It will take more then that to stop Russia advancing
Those bunkers don't look very deep ??
how deep should they be mr expert?
They need only be deep enough to be functional and protect troops from shells. Anything more then a shell would destroy almost anything so its pointless digging them deeper.
this ain't a tunnel warfare lol
Oh dear, how sad ,never mind.