Thousands of hidden deaths caused by Spain’s heatwaves
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ย. 2024
- Across Europe it's been a long hot summer, with the effects of extreme heatwaves being felt even where people are accustomed to high temperatures.
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Scientists estimate last year alone there were over 60,000 heat-related deaths across the continent.
Our foreign affairs correspondent Secunder Kermani has been to southern Spain to meet the people facing up to the dire realities of intense heat.
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To those that say temps above 40 aren't unusual, it's the length of time above 40 that's changing. I live in Athens and it's the same, above 40 could happen but was a day or 2, this summer was around a month. It's been above 35 for 2 months. It hasn't rained all summer. Summer thunderstorms always happened. Now they're very rare. Only a fool wouldn't notice the difference. And the differences are coming quicker and quicker. 2 years ago our biggest fire, this year biggest in Europe ever. The are burnt 4 x the average. Sea temps above 30. The list goes on and on. Please stop this nonsense about denying.
I agree. I havent seen the temps rise that much but the length of the waves have gotten longer and the droughts have gotten worse making all in mediterranean vulnerable. 😢
I lived in mallorca for over 30 years .I am here at the moment on holiday and when I arrived 2 weeks ago ,I have never known this heat here ,unbarerable and even the locals said to me ,they have never known it this hot for so long.
A Brit living in Mallorca for 30 years... I'm pretty sure she can't even say "Hola" or "paella" properly... They're such a joke...
Well Done C4, I, Unlike some of your other comments I Live in Spain and it has been a very hot year (up to 45/6c ) We are about to get some thunderstorms and so, our temps have dropped to only 31c. One of the problems not mentioned was the use of illegal boreholes and pumping away a lot of the groundwater, this then affects the water table making many farms unviable, The "plastic tent forced growing method" use is a big culprit. and the use of fertilisers! this is causing an ecological nightmare.
That's nonsense. Read a dataset. It's August, that's why it's cooled down.
Sevilla didn't have a particularly unusual number of hot days this year compared to historic data.
It's currently 20°C in Sevilla.
@@tjmarx It certainly isn't nonsense, and I do not know which historical data you refer to. I recommend you consult with AEMET (equivalent to your MET Office in the UK) - the frequency of heatwaves has considerably gone up, especially in the last 10 years. Yes, you did get the occasional very hot day 60 years ago and one or two heatwaves, but nowhere near the frequency of these days. Greetings from Spain.
@@roubaix3843 With chapters in 5 continents, and academic members from a diverse set of fields, I am the head of one of the largest science advocacy non-profits in the world. I am not a lay person and I understand climate change in great detail. You appear to have misunderstood my position. I'm not saying AGW is nonsense.
I'm saying the OP comment is nonsense and is not at all representative of what climate change actually is.
Understanding amongst the general public of what AGW is, is exceptionally poor. Mostly because of ignorant media reports like this one which do not represent climate change accurately.
It's funny that you mention AEMET, that's the source of historical data I'm referencing.
In fact you are wrong when you say the frequency of heatwaves has increased. Heat waves for Spain come in the same pattern that've come in for the last 50 years. The maximum temperature on the other hand has increased 3.6°C over the last 40 years. That's a distinct and important difference.
If you look at my standalone comment outside of this thread I actually break down the historical temperature data for Sevilla over the last 13 years.
It is essential for people to understand that climate change is not some conceptual idea about weather. Indeed it is essential for the lay person to understand that climate change is not weather at all. Climate change refers to physical systems in the upper atmosphere and the oceans that are physically changing; morphing in shape and moving their physical location on the earth. Think of a giant object in the sky, a balloon or cloud larger than Europe, slowly drifting across the sky at a rate of several millimetres to a centimetre a year. Now think of a whole bunch of them overlapping and covering the planet doing the same thing and moving in various directions. Conceptually that's what we're talking about when we talk about climate change.
Whilst it is true that moving climate systems will impact on weather outcomes, that is not indicative of climate change. Nor, importantly are climate systems the sole driver of isolated weather systems.
Weather isn't how we will see climate change as it occurs. Every bit of extreme weather is not evidence of climate change, indeed you can only even attempt to make inferences about extreme weather and climate change through longitudinal data and modelling.
If news media actually reported climate change accurately so that lay people really understood the thing we wouldn't have anywhere near the number of deniers we currently have. But likewise, we wouldn't have the ecoterrorism from XR and similar hysteria driven organisations. We might even be able to have a civilised conversation about AGW.
Perhaps the least covered yet most important driver of the genuine threat of climate change is population scale. Instead we focus on a symptom of population scale, emissions which is an ever moving target that can never be solved and fails to address AGW in real terms. What we actually need is action on population scale. It is necessary that we reduce global population to an 8th of today by 2100 or we're looking at another great global extinction event.
Lastly, whilst I do advise and lobby the UK government, and that does mean I spend time there physically, I am not from nor in the UK.
@@tjmarx Well, your statement was pretty clear saying "That's nonsense" in reply to the previous comment. So if you really want to convince us poor and uneducated lay people, you might want to show a little more respect when responding to comments, then we cold have a civilised conversation indeed. And I have read the information from the AEMET extensively and their conclusion is very clear: ""El número de días anual bajo ola de calor se ha incrementado de forma estadísticamente significativa desde 1975, a razón de unos tres días por década", explica Aemet, que añade que, en los veranos actuales, nos enfrentamos a "entre diez y doce días más de calor extremo que en los años 80". También ha crecido de forma llamativa la superficie afectada: las olas de calor "van ganando en extensión a razón de 2,7 provincias por década". " Have a good day!
@@tjmarx I'd certainly agree with you here about the way in which climate change is portrayed in the Media. In fact, I'd go so far as to say, if the media reports are correct, then many people, especially in countries like the UK, would welcome more climate change. In addition, everytime they show a heat wave, they go to parks and beaches that are packed with people enjoying themselves. Who cares if a few olive trees die? So clearly, the messaging is all wrong at the moment as you say. Reducing populations around the world is a tough ask - birth rates in some areas are soaring. Maybe a few wars, famines or pandemics will do the trick but I can't see it. Maybe we should just accept the world is going to turn into a great big casserole and try to enjoy life while we can.
77 arrested in Greece for Arson dont skip the cause
.... and Maui
The cause of the wildfires is irrelevant. The fact is they are a lot harder to control and put out due to extreme heat, lack of rain and dryer weather.
Expat 🇬🇧 left Spain now lives in South America. Great weather lots of rain ..cheaper..and no Tourists 👍
Why don’t you just stay in your own country. I don’t understand why immigrants from Britain need to settle anywhere else but in their own country!
Where did you move too?
@@michaelbuck294 Colombia 🇨🇴
@@jasonking6892 ah not somewhere i have considered. So going from the UK to Spain and now Columbia, was it a good move, would you recommend it for an UK expat? Easy to get in etc? Cost of living okay? Got to be better than here!
Expat???........you mean immigrant.
Arsonists started this fires . Fires do not start because is hot !!
What’s your point?
@@TH-cammessedupmyhandleif you didn’t get it in the first round; what makes you think you will get it, the second time around?
@@jnorth9431 I want them to say what point they’re leading to (their actual comment not standing up to the mildest scrutiny)
To your point okay who are the Arsonists ?
It has been proved that the fires on Greece started by so-called climate change were, in fact, started by arsonists working for developers..
46 degrees in Valencia early August. 25 degrees by night, very hard to sleep too.
Bless Pilar. She still has a lot of life.
As for the morons still denying climate change, I hope you are negatively affected by it
Shouldn't matter seeing as you don't believe it exists
It depends. Some atrocities could be committed under the cover of 'climate change'. The morons tend to be those who are not awake and can't see it.
thank you for reporting this!
Where? I’ve just looked at costs del sol. They are only in the high 20’s
Look more at inside the country.. at the coast its always always cooler then in the middle of the country. And they talk about the summer not only about a week or a few days...
There should be airconditioning also emergency power for the elderly. Our most vulnerable. ❤
The title is misleading, you did not really explain how does Spain adapt to the heat.
Con air
Terrible temperatures!! Aff...
FLE-MIN-CO ?? Disgraceful reporting... It's Flamenco ! FFS.
...but its channel 4 so I'm not really surprised.
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Yes, that's my take from this report, too😅
I can’t believe the Spanish are complaining. Imagine how many people have died in the UK from cold weather?
So much for weather modification.
Climate change disrupts weather systems so a period of chaotic weather will accompany a general increase in temperature.
Heat also means more rain in the UK.
Wow .it must be terrible being a poor worker. I guess 40 = 110 f?
Here is the news. It gets very hot in Spain during the summer.
Here is the news , in the face of facts along comes a moron making stupid comments 😂
Every summer is hotter than the previous one, that’s the news
@@veronicajimenez2716 Here, in the northern hemisphere, the weather has, actually, been cooler this summer. This narrative has been going on for years.
Some people haven't a clue and think they know it all😔. We are just back from Majorca. Temp was 41 and into 30s at night. The LOCALS told us its rising year on year. Sea and swimming pools are heating up too! They are also experiencing freak weather. Think they are qualifiedto know about how it's changing. It was unbearable.
I can vouch for what you say, I've lived in Mallorca for 15 years an of course every year you always get one or two very hot days 39/40c, but last year it was over 37c every day for three to four months, that along with the night time temperatures it psychologically affected everyone. This year thankfully we have some cooler days to break up the heat, but the heatwaves in general have got much hotter, combined with the humidity we've had days and weeks at a time of 40- 43c it gets unbearable! 🥵🇪🇸
They need a/c.
I live in the desert of Arizona.
Channel 4 needs to talk about the expanding desertification in central Spain. This is Spain's No.1 one problem, not heat.
Have you considered the two might be linked somehow?
Heat, climate change and desertification aren't linked in Spain? What world do you live in?
A Brit talking in Spanish... Thats shocking af
1:57 Stop lying. Actually look at historic temperature data instead of relying on little old ladies.
Sevilla had 15 days of 40°c or higher in July 2010, 2 days in July 2012, 1 day in July 2013, 6 days inJuly 2015, 3 days in July 2016, 2 days in July 2017, 2 days in July 2019, 4 days in July 2020, 2 days in July 2021, 17 days in July 2022 and drumroll please... Just 6 days in July 2023.
Only the years 2011, 2014 and 2018 had no days of 40°C or higher. However all of those years had at least 6 days of 39°c.
If you plot the temperatures over the years you see a pattern. One should expect no days of 40°c or higher in 2024. Every year, including 2023, had at least one July day where the temperature did not even reach 30°C.
This is why trying to connect this kind of reporting to climate change is so detrimental to getting people on board and filled with misinformation. It isn't based in reality. Instead to show the reality of climate change for Sevilla you would instead need to show only a series of historic temperature datasets for July high temps. If you plot hit temps for July over the last 40 years you can see an upward trend of 3.6°C for Sevilla.
It's not actually all that interesting to listen to, but that's actual climate change. That's actually what should be being reported. What you're currently reporting, that's BS.
Lies sell, truth doesn’t!
The problem is that temperatures over 40 degrees are lasting a lot longer than they had before. One or 2 days are inconvenient. 2 weeks or more are lethal. So check the length, not the occasional peaks.
@@rollosinternet1853 That is false.
In none of the years discussed in my OP were there any times where temperatures reached 40°C or higher for 14 consecutive days. Indeed, the longest running consecutive days for such a temperature range was 5 days which happened just once in the 13 years discussed.
For the vast majority of years discussed temperatures of 40°C or greater were not consecutive at all. 2023 saw just 3 consecutive days in that temperature range, fewer than in 2022.
Temperature is not a representation of climate change.
These are like scenes from the 60's movie 'The day the Earth caught fire' .... only this is real.
Nothing on the TV is real..... Wake up.
@@JamesSmith-qs4hx You dummy ... I have family in Spain so I know the temperature has been in the 40's.
😂😂
@@MoebiusUK No - I live in Spain and it's about 35 degrees.
@@JamesSmith-qs4hxyou live inside your messed up head obviously
@@MoebiusUK I agree, Global Warming is real, and a real problem.
But those on TV sometimes get it wrong. At 6:08 in the video, he says that "there's no fruit on the trees." But at 6:16 you can see olives on the tree.
Beautiful.......😎😎😎😎😎😎
Oh, estoy feliz, he estado ganando casi $25,000 con mi inversión de $5,000 cada 10 días, Dios bendiga a Frank M. Acosta. Todo gracias a mi amigo por presentarme esta oportunidad.
También he estado sobreviviendo a través de mi inversión con él. Gano $9,200 cada semana con él. en verdad es un genio
Hablando de invertir, sé que estoy bendecido porque si no hubiera conocido a alguien tan espectacular como el Sr. Frank Micheal Acosta, todavía estaría perdiendo.
Recuerdo haber recibido una recomendación sobre el Sr. Frank Acosta. Lo probé y de hecho gané $23,000 en menos de dos semanas.
El Sr. Frank Micheal Acosta ha estado administrando mi comercio durante meses y sigo obteniendo ganancias todas las semanas. Hice "$ 15,360 la semana pasada también
Al principio, cuando conocí al Sr. Frank Micheal Acosta, tenía dudas sobre cómo perdía con otros corredores y plataformas. Decidí probarlo con $1,500. Pero sorprendentemente, gané $6,000 en una semana de negociación con él. en verdad es un genio
Do not comply. No to vaccine passports, no to mandatory vaccines. No to masks, no to tests, a total disgrace
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Why has arson now become "extreme heat" ? Mr Orwell warned us about this kind of language manipulation.
What arson?
Well said.
@@Pining_for_the_fjordseco-arsonists
@@tastypymp1287 Who are they, and how could arson cause heatwaves in Spain?
BOTs have no meaning, no sense, no ears, no brain. Pure Propaganda 😀😀
Time to adapt. De-salination might help. They did it in the Canary Islands. Free air con for the vulnerable.
Get the runt of Londonistan's cameras down..... Well done the Blade Runners ❤
The writing is on the wall. we've had it. The world will continue but not as "our planet" despite what the bible told us.
Why don’t they build Mud/adobe houses for the workers?
Spain has always been hot. There is no "adapting". Stop lying
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@@volkerengels5298 bot
Since you missed it 2:53
Another shill paid by big oil and coal companies I see.
The old lady said that she has experienced the weather degree going up to 39, but never 3 degrees higher 😂
I guess she was born yesterday than! It is standard for elderly people to not being able to handle heat nor cold as they get older and sometimes die due to their age and complications. Why are we acting that this is something out of the extra ordinary
It doesn't need to adapt.
News flash....Spains hot...47 degrees in 1946, 46 degrees in 1953 its nothing new.
Then you go live there. And let's see how your talking after a few months of that kind of heat
For how long did they have those peaks? 2 days in August? This Summer we are talking of continuous weeks of heatwaves, one after the other. So yes, it is news worthy.
When, in mainstream Media, they say that "temperatures where the highest ever", one should notice that the recording of temperatures has only been reliably made for 300 years ago or so. So, how can we say that this is the "hottest summer ever"??
Bla Bla BOT
That’s the only question you have about the whole report?
Idiot much?
Imagine writing this and thinking you've actually said smth relevant.
@@volkerengels5298 It's Spain... It is supposed to be hot.
BOT has no brain, no ears, no sense@@JamesSmith-qs4hx
Wildfires or echo terrorist!that's question