The Edge has DITCHED HIS AMPS for Universal Audio Pedals?!
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No doubt you've seen the news that The Edge (Dave to his mates) has been confirmed to have replaced his tube amps for Universal Audio pedals in his live rig for the Sphere....Is this surprising to you?
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I have these three pedals. They’re awesome. So it sounds like I just need my own Sphere to play in and I’ll be good to go!
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You just need some Holoplot speakers. 😊
Most importantly for his tone you also need the Blue Herdim pick and play it backwards as that is a big part of his overall sound.
There’s an old sphere down I35 near Waco. I think it’s abandoned.
@@guitarplayer1969Yep. That blue herdim pick is the secret sauce for that tone.
Wonderful playing and really informative video. Many thanks!
Megadeth uses Quad Cortex, Metallica was using Axe Fx 2s live, thisbis the norm today its just easier even for quadrillionaires like The Edge
I wish more people realized that what they miss with modelers is the amp feel in the room moving air, not so much the “tone.” If you use in ears and have amps off stage it sounds so close that like 99% of people couldn’t tell…
100%. This is so often missed in conversations and shootout videos.
Agreed. Especially these modelers. They actually simulate shit at the same or maybe even better level than axe fx
I still prefer tube amps but I have toured before and modeling is just a lot more convenient, more reliable and less expensive.
I think for me it is hard for me to part with my twin because I have such a deep connection to it and I bought mine from the guy who composed the score to Justice League and Mad Max. lol
agree here, nothing wrong with liking real amps they’re awesome but the sound in the room argument is a bit gatekeepy of good tone
if you’re only playing for your own enjoyment you’ll probably like the amp in the room assuming you can actually do it. if you record modeling is massive
Ignorant question here but "moving the aor in the room" sounds like you need to be blasting serious volume. If just a home player will anyone ever get that level anyway
If you're sitting in a room by yourself playing, a tube amp sounds better, more 3 dimensional. If you're playing to a loud crowd in a band mix you probably can't tell much difference. It's like drinking a fine wine at home or having a beer at a party while staying and talking. Different uses.
I chatted to Dallas under the stage at a U2 gig in Manchester Arena October 2018. He was a really lovely guy - we have a mutual friend. The setup was a bit mind-blowing down there to be honest. Like a secret military command centre 😊 Edge’s setup was soooo complex, Dallas was full-time selecting his sounds throughout the show. I saw that padded room with all the amps and some truly beautiful guitars. There was redundancy built-in also the Edge had some footswitches that were all duplicated under the stage and he had a little Fender combo mic’d at the back of the stage, I guess as the ultimate fail-safe? I don’t know. Anyway very cool, never seen anything like. All started with a guitar, a Vox and an echo pedal
Your guitar playing is incredible!!! You’re one of my favorites
I saw their October 25th show. Perfect seats. The sound mix was among the best I ever heard. You could hear individual instruments well. However, the Edge's guitar sounded muddy. It seemed to be missing high end/chime/sparkle. Also the delays seemed almost coarse. For instance, if he had a song with a dotted eighth and a quarter note delay all you heard was a quarter note delay. Almost like he was simplifying parts. I had no idea he used modelers. Holy crap-if there ever was a gig where you could use real amps, this is it. They own this arena for 5 months or so. Park your amps there! To summarize, the Edge almost sounded like a caricature of his own sound.
About me: super fan of the Edge. I spend great time and effort to emulate his sound. While I don't know all his secrets, I know many of them. His guitar sound was disappointing at best. Maybe I was expecting too much.
That's super interesting to hear from a fan who has been in amongst it!!
couldn't agree more. his tone has suffered in the past years.
I'd echo this too. I've seen them live on every tour including the sphere and Edge's guitar tone seems to lack 'balls' in the last three or four tours.
This doesn’t surprise me. How anyone thinks a few UAD pedals could replace the charm of those fender and vox amps is borderline insulting to me! 😂
Absolutely… Not only has Edge had his amps under the stage for years now, They’ve been using in-ears since the early 90s, they’re playing in a room that is affectively surround sound so if you add any extra directional sound, you start causing problems with phase coherency in the room. In fact I started using modelling live with in-ears in 2004/2005 because I’d been touring with my amps baffled off stage and one of the biggest comments I would get is “your guitar sounds so forward and punchy” it’s only years later I realised that it was because I didn’t have any phase cancellation between my amps on stage and the the PA system. Also I’ve never bought the whole “you get no interaction between guitar and amp” thing…because if you are on a big enough stage there is plenty of guitar coming through the pa to feed back onto itself…you just have to figure out where to stand on any given night to get your guitar to take off! 😊
I played with U2 for a few gigs 20 odd years ago. He was using Line 6 rack mounted amp sims back then. There was an AC30 on stage, but it was purely aesthetic. Dallas took me under the stage to where at least some of the magic happens, and lo and behold...not only was Dallas playing the extra guitar parts (as he had been doing since the 80s), he also had 2 foot controllers, one for him, the other for the Edge when he was out on the heart shaped gangway and couldn't change his FX. I played with a few big Arena acts back then and some of them were running Line 6 gear even then . Getting used to a stage with no backline and just relying on side fills and wedges, and IEMs of course, takes a bit of getting used to.
As an old gigging guitarist, I now use a Tech 21 Fly Rig 2 into a PA and use IEMs- I love the sound. I use a Roland Blues Cube Stage where I feel I need an amp. I haven't used valve amps for a few years now. I'm comfortable with this way of doing things.
Thanks for sharing that! I switched to IEMs a couple of years ago and am very happy with my sound now. I’m a keys player and can finally hear myself properly onstage. My tech recommended using the largest ear buds for my Shure SE425s and to squash them up so they expand to create a really tight seal. The bass response is way better that way. I can also control my mix through an app on the phone, as there always seems to be some difference with the mix after soundcheck and I really like the slightly detached feel I get on stage as I can’t really hear the crowd, so I can control the adrenaline better! Many of my guitar playing friends still prefer a wedge and the power of the amp and I get that, as the guitar mix through the IEMs doesn’t have the same punch and tone.
When you worked with U2 was Dave Lewis still teching with them? He’s an old friend of mine. All the best!
@@stevep1941 same here. I have a gen 1 FlyRig and it's fantastic. I use it mostly as my 'amp head' on a small (and portable) pedal board with a wah, trem, and verb going into an FRFR (Headrush 108) which I can line out to the mix if I have to. Sounds great, super portable, and reliable...no maintenance required. Ever. Cheap too! I've been an amp tech for years, but I'm out of the tube scene now. There's no reason or point anymore, and I'm getting too old for those big DC shocks..hehehe
If it sounds good I'll do it. I got used to IEM very quickly and I love them. If I get to choose it's two half-stacks and two 100w tube heads but if it sounds good I'll take it. I have a Boss GT-1000 that can do pretty much everything if I can't bring the stacks. I'd rather use a modeler for recording than real amps. Feedback effects are the only thing you really need amps for but who does that anymore. I do!
sorry, but you can't get some of his tones from a line 6. sorry, not possible. it was the old jmi ac30.
I agree completely with everything you say. When I finally switched to modellers it also happened when I would spend a significant amount of the gear setup time to find a place, I could put my amp, where it would not mess up the sound in front of the stage or the stage sound in general. On in-ears with the amp out of the way, I could never tell the differrence. My modeler setup (AxeFX III) is so much more convenient and much more powerful in terms of sounds than any amp and pedal board I ever owned.
You won't be surprised if you understand...
Edge has always been open to new guitar tech. He plays massive venues and does not get the benefit of hearing his live amps.
You will be surprised if you think...
Edge is known for good town, how can he possibly switch to modelling? I thought amp models were bad and insuficient for pro use?
Heck Metallica has switched to Fractals as well. When I saw them in September I couldn’t tell the difference in a 70,000 seat stadium. I’ll always love my amps and won’t get rid of my Mesa Mark V. But I use the HX Stomp every weekend live and it works. The audience most certainly wouldn’t be able to tell. I can only tell in an isolated environment at home.
Excellent playing. I really enjoyed it. I have the Ruby and it sounds like an AC30.. I can't tell if it is a model or not. In the time where monitors are common even in the smallest clubs. Churches too.
Most of us that have been gear nuts nearly as long as The Edge tend to experiment with this and that. He’s integrated UAD into existing Fractal and other gear. This whole thing feels like a UAD marketing push to me. But hey, yay for competition. Cheers JC, all, Daniel
Yeah I dont buy for a second that the freaking Edge would go full on modeling
Did you see the pedals being tossed around this video? It’s just a commentary based on evidence provided by many. Things move forward.
Hmm. I was speaking of UAD marketing, not anything going on with Edge or JC. A few pedals right now don’t really rock the boat relative to what Edge has been doing for half a century.
UA actually didn't know until there was a rumor flying around from a grainy picture of his rig at the Sphere. Edge bought the UA pedals himself UA didn't even know till after the fact.
The Fractal site has a thread on this. Amp pedals solved his Sphere needs. They don’t add anything to my workflow. Get the pedals; have fun. The war is not interesting to me. Cheers.
"If you hate my playing " cmon man, I'm here mostly for the playing 🤟
Someone should take an empty 4x12 and install 4 fans, and you put it behind you while you play your Helix, 😂
Pushed air 🎉
It's like this... The Edge is playing for his bank balance. Average Joe is playing for his ego.
U2's audience want to hear the songs sound vaguely like the record and 99% can't tell the difference. The venue's happy, the audience is happy, U2 are happy.
Average Joe's audience want to hear songs played reasonably well, 100% of the audience can tell when they get it wrong and don't give a sh*t about Average Joe's "tone". The venue is probably irritated, the audience is probably not that impressed, but at least Average Joe is happy.
Only surprise is that with him being an FMIC board member, you'd have thought he'd use the new Fender modeller.
I recently started doing a monthly 80’s show with a couple of more delay heavy U2 tunes in. I used the Dream ‘65 for the first couple and it’s the best tones I’ve gotten on the U2 tunes (including using amps, Helix etc). Am using ToneX and midi now, but that Dream 65 sounded incredible on those U2 tunes with modulated delays.
Will say this too - the Dream 65 coming through a stage monitor feels like an amp to me.
Hey I've got a question; do you ever play gigs in bars? I recently bought the UA lion68 and I think it's absolutely awesome. I just played my first rehearsal with it and it sounded great, I would say even better, more present. We're gonna play a bar soon and I wonder if it's comfortable there too
@@glennjanssens8326 hey Glenn - I’ve used the Dream 65 only (will definitely try the Ruby and Lion at some point). I’ve either taken a small active speaker with it and pedals to smaller gigs, or for bigger club venues / theatres I’ve ran straight into the PA and they’ve sent me signal to a stage monitor.
With the Dream I’d say it’s voiced fairly toppy for more vintage strats and telecasters etc, so I was turning down the treble a fair enough to get it where I liked it (I’ve owned and gigged an actual Deluxe Reverb a lot, so am going for that ballpark). With a Les Paul I didn’t have to touch the EQ on the Dream, was running fairly flat.
Charlie Hunter uses one live and mostly runs it into whatever guitar amp is in a venue already (run plugs into the pedal, then runs it into the effects return of an amp - so you end up bypassing the sound of the amps own preamp, but using its speaker and power amp). Have tried this before and it sounded a lot better than when I just plugged my pedalboard into the venues amp.
Hope that helps!
The sound system engineering at the Sphere is mind boggling basically delivering hifi audio to individual seats. This approach makes perfect sense to me. I would think Signal to noise and sonic spectrum would be much easier to work with.
I had the UA Ruby for a hot minute but returned it because the thing doesn't have XLR out. I didn't want to fuss with having to use a DI etc. I just wanted everything on the small board to send to the house. The TS cables were noisy and I couldn't handle it in my IEM.
He could just play one axefx and another as a backup and would have the same sound...
The UA pedals are really good. I agree that running IEMs with amps off stage makes it harder to tell if you're playing a real amp or a modeler. Depends on the modeler though. Pretty much every modeler in my experience has a sound. Kemper has a compression thing, QC is super hifi, these UA pedals are super honest in that they show the good, bad, and ugly of the real amps, and the helix just sounds.. least accurate imo.
The Axe-FX are still there.
"For various reasons at the Sphere I decided to switch from amplifiers to digital amp emulators. I'm using UA Ruby, Dream and Woodrow amp pedals with some Fractal Axe-Fx units handling additional amp emulation and FX. "
Nice to hear the Revstar John, great playing as always!
Interesting. I also think it isn't surprising. The Edge has always been a tech fan and the convenience is always a thing for those acts and their crew. I also agree about the mic'd sound from an amp close to the cloth is similar to the modelers but the change is in the room and also when you get a couple of room mics in a recording situation, the amp just has more life and character than a modeler for me. Out of interest what sound and setup were you using fir the intro demo bit?
nah, this is the edge just getting older and prioritizing convenience and reliability over tone. just listening to the live sphere concerts and even the JT rehash tour... his sound has gone way downhill. totally loss of warmth.
The wind fan industry will have a new boom with all these modellers... because "moving air" is the thing that's missing.
This isnt necessarily about modelers vs amps but John your playing is so inspiring to me. I’ve been wanting to give music a solid go for awhile now and it’s hard to not get discouraged from time to time. Listening to your videos and your playing always makes me want to pick up my guitar and play. So thank you and keep it up 👍🏻
You can do it man.. Just keep at it, 👍🏾
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If you consider the amp as “just another effect” it makes total sense. Would anyone even attempt to bring a reverb cavern on stage when there is a digital box that can do it and it fits in a gig bag?
More AC30's in the wild in case Brian May needs em! Lol
Make a fair point, I've noticed with my Boss multifx it adds back any missing magic taking an fx loop send and putting into a fx return of a small amp. It's useful for sanity check when choosing models as with a known speaker it's easier to gauge whether you like the amp model or just the IR.
I don’t care what anyone says, there’s something about a great amp that you don’t get with modellers. I’m a live engineer, a studio guy and have played guitar for over 30 years. I am rarely pleasantly surprised by modellers performance in a live setting. I am not afraid to tell bands that their guitars are hard to work with compared to their former rigs and they all admit it’s convenience that led them to switch.
I honestly don’t many people seem have sophisticated ears to hear the difference but that isn’t enough a reason for me.
Then you get into the aesthetics and how amps react in such a way that informs your playing. Those dynamic characteristics just aren’t present in modellers. Not yet anyways.
good for him....not me... play whatever inspires you...I can't believe we made music in the 70's without all this tech...play on!
I am here for…”if a tree falls in a forest, does it hit a sausage” 😂
I don’t care what the Edge is doing. To me my amps still sound/FEEL better (I have Iridium, HX Stomp, had Kemper, played UAs) even through IEMs. If you think differently I’m all for your “choice” to use whatever you want, but if I can control my tube amps (offstage, or below stage volume, or using Cabs - OxBox/SuhrIR) there’s no reason I shouldn’t lose my “choice” to play them. That’s where modeling frustrates me most, because it’s now common for audio guys to try to tell players what gear they can use. I think modeling sounds darn good, but don’t take my “choice” away to play what I want - not talking 100watt Marshalls, I’m ok with using amps silent or mic’d offstage.
The way I understand it (feel free to correct me) is that the UA pedals are NOT amp modlers. Yes they have digital modeling aspects such as the cab/microphone sims, but not so the amp section. This section is supposed to be an exact recreation of the original circuit with the tubes replaced by other analogue means. I use the Ruby as a replacement for my AC15 and I love it! I am one of those who refuses to use certain modlers (cough cough Helix) because the Vox simulation sucks balls... My buddy uses a Kemper on stage with me and his sounds are AMAZING! Yet, again, the way Kemper has been explained to me, is it really a digital modeling device or more of an audio snapshot device?
I have FM3, had just about every other modeler and have great tube amps. Of course in perfect circumstances tube amps sound the best. However, what doesn’t sound good is ground hum, noise and other hassles that come from amps on stage (eg stage volume, balance). You can get a better, cleaner sound with the right tool and we are lucky as now we have a choice of many wonderful, creative tools that help us capture that sound we chase in our heads. Real amps and continuing improvements in technology play nice together.
there's an argument that he's made the change for convenience and reliability. the sphere shows have no room for failure and are quite high production and high priced. also, edge and dallas both are no spring chickens and probably don't want the stress of managing real tube amp "issues" on the road. all U2/Edge fans will agree his sound has gone downhill since he retired his old JMI's, but again, it's more a live 'production' now, and less of a real "rock" show.
U2 are a now a lounge act, their own tribute/function band, I'll ditch the amp when Trucks, Mayer, Bonamassa, Landau and Bukovac do.
Absolutely incredible opening !! and I don't care what equipment anyone uses as long as it sounds good.
what next, slash has magnatone's.
Let's be honest here, his signal is swimming through so much processing and delay, no one would know if the Edge went from his amps to a 14 year old mic'd battery powered Micro Cube.
John I like your plaing. Can you show how you play some standard, how your frasing fits the standard chord progressions, not only polychords. Just interesting, thanks
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It makes sense for U2 because they are a “show” and no longer a “band”… A big production is more about making things work on a grand scale and not as much about raw band tone… unfortunately, this is what turns me off about U2.
Yeah why anyone with a rig like that would choose UA over Fractal when they already have multiple Axe FX's in their rig is beyond me...
Who cares. Your playing is more inspiring than he is. He does the same old delay trick over and over which is now very boring. Bill bailey does a good sketch on him.
great video.... im very interested (of all thing) about where you got your hoodie! its ace! 😅
I didn’t know this about the Edge.
Btw the using windows comments made me smile
i just would love thar UA amp modeler would have a headphones connection .... pleaaaseeee
F'ing Sheila and Dave have it off in the toilets, was exactly my reason for going to modeling.
no big deal ...never played clean...does his sound owe a big thanks to Daniel Lanois ?
U2 are still going?
Beautiful playing in the beginning. Any idea what scale it's loosely based on?
Sheila - might have known it would be with Dave, but in the toilets?! No class.
I support minimalist lean setups that sound the same as massive rigs. The Edge, or anyone, will always sound like themselves anyway.
Hell Uva sweet sound - Thats what we use to call "Porno Music " in the 80ès 🤗
Once a loud drummer starts banging on the drums all that vintage amp nonsense goes out the window.
Respect. But dude you said the same thing like 5 times in a row. Nearly 6.
lol i don't play for my techs or my foh guy, most important is i feel comfortable on stage ...
so still runs two 6 foot racks but switched to these pedals for his amp sims? makes perfect sense.
It's not surprising when any touring act switches from amps to modelers.
John I think of all the TH-cam guitarists that do gear talk and more specifically modeling, you describe the real amp versus modeling difference better than anybody. I am not surprised the high end modelors are now becoming accepted by the "big pros".
You almost have it. Try a bit more emotion, more stops, and lose the scale routines.
My amp wasn't with Sheila and Dave - but I did regularly play a venue (this was 10-15 years ago) where I put my Rivera R55-12 out in a corridor behind where the stage was, and only got my sound through the monitors. It actually sounded decent, and made everyone happier. I guess if you can replicate the sound you're after *without* the amp ... why not?!
The Sphere is in Las Vegas, and the Edge chose to go with UA for this particualr show due to the space limitations, and also electrical interference to to the complexity of the multimedia show at the Sphere - The building itself is one big LED screen. He has used smaller rigs, including FA units for smaller TV appearences, for years. Edge also had a lot of issues with his rig the fiist couple of weeks of the Spehere show. I just can't understand how he felt he couldn't dial in a convincing tone on the FA units, as all the Edge cover band guys and U2 copycats that have websites and groups dedicated to this stuff have been using FA units for years and have some pretty convincing tones.
I feel like the UA pedals can sort of be plugged into the existing vast rig in a way that the Fractal units can't - as they're already part of the monster rig? So I don't feel like they'd have even tried with the Fractal units, as agreed, I think the Fractal stuff is definitely on par (at least) with UA units?
I saw The Edge play the intro of "Streets have no name" with that setup on the David Letterman interview (that you can find on Disney Plus). It sounds great.
Well off topic here but where did you get that hoodie from? 👀
The edge probably because no one else would endorse him
Concernant The Edge, il me semble que son choix de ne plus utiliser d'ampli ne concerne que les concerts à la Sphère de Las Vegas afin d'avoir un son constant chaque soir en raison de la chaleur et de l'humidité de l'endroit qui pourraient mettre à mal n'importe quel ampli vieux de plusieurs décennies. De plus, la scène de la Sphère de par sa taille et sa forme n'est pas propice à l'utilisation de beaucoup de matériel même si les amplis de The Edge ne sont plus avec lui sur scène depuis plusieurs années maintenant mais relégués backstage avec son guitare tech Dallas Shoo. Mais bon, si The Edge a fait le choix désormais de ne plus utiliser d'ampli et si on a droit à un prochain album bien plus rock que les deux précédents, peu importe qu'il préfère désormais ces pédales Universal audio à ses ampli Vox ou Fender.
Hi! I totally agree with you, no surprise at all
Hi John. I just wanted to thank you for introducing me the TrueFire. It has been a tremendous resource for learning and improving. Love the content you provide, I may not always agree with you on gear but it’s always good to listen to your thoughts. Cheers.
Your guitar style is good. Very good.👍
Bryan Adams and Keith Scott also switched to Fractal Axe-FX for live use and they have been vintage amp users since the beginning. I honestly think it’s the way of the future. Tube amps are getting more and more expensive, tubes can be hard to find, they can break down, they are often too loud and heavy and units like the Iridium and UAFX have gotten so close that it’s kind of an easier decision to ditch the amps.
Let me correct you on your points:
1. Tube amps are getting more and more expensive.
Yes. So are cars, and groceries, and clothes, and amusement parks and yes, are guitars and amps and effects of all types.
2. Tubes can be hard to find
I have never not been able to re-tube an amp or have to wait to re-tube an amp because I couldn’t find tubes. And no, I don’t live next to a tube manufacturing plant.
3. They can break down
Anything can break down. Tube amps are actually very reliable, and are relatively simple to repair, compared to some digital computer modeling gear.
4. They are often too loud and heavy
They are ALWAYS too loud and heavy. That’s what earplugs and groupies are for.
5. Units like Iridium and UAFX have gotten so close
A Corvette is getting close to Ferrari in performance. (Even surpassing Ferrari in some respects.) It’s still not a Ferrari.
There are many alternatives to “the real thing” in just about everything in life now. Fake hamburgers. Blow up dolls. We’ve had “mock” apple pie for 100 years.
I’ll eat fake burgers and apple pie and women and even drive a Corvette.
But I’m not ditching my tube amps.
@@zenlandzipline My post wasn’t meant to upset people. It’s also all subjective. My points are all still valid whether you like them or not.
@@scottmoreau5630 I don’t think you upset anybody with your post. Most people probably agree with you. (Well, most of the people who watch Jonathan Cordy videos, anyway.) And although it’s mostly subjective, consider this: what big-name players forged their way to the top of the guitar world using modelers and little solid state preamps? Yes, maybe Bryan Adam’s is using Fractal now, but he’s already made his mark on the music world, and at this point in his career, gear choices are probably made with practicality as being the top consideration. If he were to go back into a recording studio, I’d bet tube amps would be miked up for the guitar sounds.
I’m not tryna be a jag. I’m just a diehard tube amp guy, and I was tryna inject a little humor into the subject.
It’s all good bro.
I also noticed this switch with Keith Scott, and was able to meet him for the first time this year! I've seen Bryan Adams many times and I thought the guitars sounded better than ever in the live show with the modelers this year.
Nobody cares.
And a more reliable option
I think your thoughts are right in many ways. What I find is people still saying “the crowd cant here the diffrence”. After gigging moddellers in many years, I have gone back to playing 2 boutique amps with analog pedals. Now I play so that I have a great experience for my self, and I think that translates to the ordiance as well.
If anything else makes you happy, then you are happy and thats perfect.
I actually agree with this. Gear is for the musician, not the audience. They can’t tell the difference, less care. If having vintage gear makes you happier, more inspired and play better, that will lead to a better audience experience. There is no right or wrong here. I’m firmly in the modelling camp for convenience but I see both arguments.
I've been to shows where I could hear the amps directly from stage. It can make a difference for the audience as well, at least in the front row.
I remember 20 years ago when bands started using the Line 6 amps or the pod. They mostly did this, because they could easily switch sounds and because it was so much easier to tour with this equipment. Often times bands had to stay within a certain budget for their tours. Ditching heavy and unreliable tube rigs can safe quite a lot money. Today it's becoming really convenient, because now it sounds good, too.
Edge needs more delay.
Absolutely awesome
Info @5:05 is pure gold.
I would ad that no one can tell the difference on a blind test in a room between a real tube amp and a modeler (if the modeler is plugged into a power amp + cab).
What's even more mind boggling to me, is the fact that small bands are still playing in small clubs using half stacks tube amps and legendary bands playing
stadiums for years now using modelers.
And this fact doesn't ring any bell to "wannabe" guitarists.
watch (listen) to "where the streets have no name" rattle and hum version vs. any of the latest sphere shows for the same tune. vintage vox vs computer box. night and day. stop with this "can't tell the difference on a blind test" nonsense.. if you can't tell, you're deaf.
@@kenichi407 have you ever participated in double blind test which was set up by someone else? Or, do you know what albums from well known artists that you've probably heard already, are recorded with modelers or plugins?
Or ....do you know what bands are using modelers onstage today, for live shows that you probably attended already and you didn't even realize they are using them?
He’s gone deaf.
Fractal has been used years by many artist Metallica Steve stevens Vai Def lep edge but we all used amps one or two and one cab with fake cabs and heads on stage in back only had led power light inside . Evh to everyone and we all started with digitech 2101 then 1101 then fractal
What's the edge?
I was almost a victim of these Telegram scams. But I was too broke to even be a victim of money fraud. By the way! Love your videos…
You have to understand mains electricity supply in the US. We don’t have perfect power supply even when a facility has been wired correctly. The UK, Western Europe, Australia and many other parts of the world hold utilities to higher standards than the US. My voltage fluctuates on a minute to minute basis and I’m in NYC. Lenny Kravitz gave up on recording in NY because he couldn’t deal with noise levels, dirty electric. So many players are using modelers or just DC powered rigs because of noise problems.
Anyone against modelers should play one running through a mic pre or channel strip. It sounds like a record, ready to go. It's awesome and amazingly portable and inexpensive.
So John...what would say you lead tone is based in. It seems to matter not what amp/modeler you play, you tone is always the same. I run a Meas Mark V:25, but rarely use the drive channel. My NUX Cerberus supplies the lead/crunch tones well enough as they are based on the Angry Charlie and Morning Glory. Same was true when I had an Express 5:25 Express Plus and ran a JHS AT and a Tone City Dry Martini. Note, I am about to switch to the NUX Trident.
If the monitors are high-quality it’s somewhere is better to have the MSAU stage might because the monitors point directly up into your face and you can actually hear yourself better and if the Amp is behind you… I’m still not a big fan of IEM‘s I like to have the sound in the room in the air and I like to hear the band
Plus I’d like to have the ability to make feedback
but I like IEM’s when it comes to vocals because you can really hear yourself which is really helpful…
I do want to try out these pedals though because using amps in a live setting doesn’t really matter if you using IEMS and especially if the modellers are that good and everyone’s going to IEM these days anyways
I got one of those messages from "you" too on Telegram - I get them all the time from various personalities on Telegram. What is crazy about all of that is people have time to first go through all of these posts everywhere, then try to track you down and then send you a post. Proof that some idiots just have far too much time on their hands, and that probably explains why they're idiots, I guess? LOL
God Bless!
Not surprised. Realistically he could do what he needs with one AxeFX. That old rig rundown looks like he was using the Bradshaw and just plugging in the new stuff he'd get to that. Metallica, Megadeth, Def Leppard and a bunch of others all do this.
My buddy is a tech for Eric Johnson and he said for Europe he is using a quad cortex, when someone like him is adopting it says a lot.
Loved your playing at the beginning. Very Eric Johnson vibes for me. I very curious about the UAFX Ruby. So far I’ve only seen positive reviews out there and with The Edge’s adoption it will lend even more credibility to the pedal.
The Screaming Singing Legato Boy. JNC !!!! The Edge is he not the Father of the Modern Worship guitar style?? Most churches, larger ones have all gone that Silent Stage Route, so it is not surprising. The Gretsch Guitar almost Rules the worship scene too. I can see that Filtertron and Super Filtetron pickups are a between pickup, between single coil and Gibson style Humbucker. They give you like the best of both. I will never forget the night MTV debuted BB KING with U2, Love come to town.
I mean so what. His loss not mine I can’t stand U2 so thankfully I won’t have to listen too him play them. The Edge selling out going for the shit green sounds.
He won't be doing this long. There's an unpredictable magic in amps. Digital is great for "set it and forget it" but The Edge is likely to not give up on a Vox AC or a little Fender combo. He set the standard, he doesn't chase it.
It is painful to listen to this when there are no examples of the sounds you are talking about - instead you are just talking !!
Go see the Edge at the Sphere to hear the sounds
I am in December mate @@johnnathancordy
I did wonder why he didn’t have amps when I saw them at the sphere
Edge has had his amp line below the stage for years, so you might not have seen them either way. Look up the rig rundown @johnnathancordy mentions.
Who could ever hate your playing, Cordy!
If I recall correctly, Axe-FXs only introduced gapless patch changing recently. Maybe that has something to do with the multiple Axe-FXs?
Please let us know when you have your next dodgy bar gig! Personally, I think Edge (+ego) created a monster. I bet he's glad to get rid of all that junk.