Is DRY Machining Actually More Beneficial Than WET Machining?!?
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"Titan really likes the taste of it" -- Think of a romantic dinner and Titan just whips out a fine bottle of coolant and pours in champagne glasses. --Boom!
Nice😂😂😂
Truth be told though…
I actually do Love it.
The MILK sucks
"Ah, I see you favor the 535. Great vintage."
Or uses the coolant as aftershave...
with way oil sauce on the side.
Coolant or no coolant... this has been the topic in our shop lately. We got ourselves our first mill at the beginning of this year, a Mazak VCN-530C, only had Mazak lathes before this. So this has been a learning curve. lol.
We mainly cut 1045 steel and our Iscar, Sumitomo and Sutton reps have all said to run their endmills (both solid carbide and inserted endmills) dry with air blast.
We have tried both methods and there are advantages to both but we have also found that if we need to hit a tight tolerance we were better off using coolant as the part stays cool. When we were cutting dry the part would get warm and then shrink after, then be out of spec.
Advantage with dry cutting (with air blast) is that we got longer tool life.
Advantages with wet cutting is that we got better finishes and the part stays cool.
Yupp I tend to rough without coolant using air and finish with it (obviously with a different tool). All my tools are meant to run dry as well per manufacturer. This all depends on your material I do it of cast, A36 and such. Chips getting recut was a big factor till I moved to thru spindle air and that has gone away. Tool life doubled or triples without coolant, but it does affect if your tight tolerances.
If you're part get hot you are not feeding fast enough. The heat is supposed to stay in the chip. Make sure your chips have the proper color
Raise your ipm until your chips turn blue. If the cutter breaks it's probably recutting chips or your tool holder isn't stiff enough. You need your EM running as true as possible. .0002 or less for total runout, to do this consistently without manually "bucking" in you need the best holders money can buy and everything must be assembled properly and completely dry.
I love how you guys educate us on everything to do with machining. There would be loads of people that have never stepped into a machine shop. When I started a apprenticeship in Engine reconditioning I was lucky to clean the sludge out of the coolant tanks from the crankshaft grinding Machine 🤮 if you didn’t have a strong stomach it would make you sick. Grinding crankshafts was a great job the grinding wheel would spin at 120 MPH so you had to pay attention that’s for sure. Love your work Titan and your respect you have for everyone you are a man of Honour brother. 🇦🇺👨🏭
120 MPH?? Your machine was mobile?
Thanks Brother… That’s Huge!
Really Appreciate You Darren…
Greatest Industry on Earth…
What THEY doing to Save It.
Not Much, so I figured I would throw my hat in the ring…
Let’s Go Baby!!!
@@williamlind2843 🤣 no that was the speed the grinding wheel spun at its a massive stone wheel This was back in the late 80s. A lot of young blokes got screwed over for cheap labour so I found another trade i became a Boilermaker welder and rigger.
@@TITANSofCNC I believe we need to save all the metal trades I remember when I was a pup Australia had so much work in the steel industry where ever you went to work there would be 100s of men but now you lucky to see workshops with 20 blokes. This worries me for the young men and women of tomorrow and people like yourself are really making a difference for the future of our kids. 🙏🤙 Keep on keeping on you think it up I will wake it up 🤣 this what I tell people I do jobs for talk soon Titan you are a bloody legend mate.
Dry cutting has been around for many years now. Instead of sending out heat treated parts. To be centerless ground. I would turn them in the 90s.only small cuts I know. At first cemented carbide tool bits. Then inserts.
A representative of Blaser actually adviced our company against the integration of 735. Having to clear all the piping and tanks and other parts would be expensive, and the benefits would be minimal over our current coolant. That is an expert I trust, great guy
What are you currently using?
@@guser436 Kadesol KF40. One thing I didn't mention is that 99% of the parts i make are steels.
One of the best channels in the world!!!
If you left coolant off, that part will expand way too much. Keep it cool around 72 degrees so it can be inspected at 72 degrees...
You guys are the tip of the spear of Team Work.
Excellent video.
Keep them coming.
Awesome! It's a beautiful cut! I love to see tool cut steel in machine CNC. I learn about this....go ahead!
One thing I'm curious about are machinists now using liquid nitrogen forced through the bit to super chill it and extend tool life. I'm not a machinist, but I do find this stuff fascinating.
Cryogenic Machining is the future.
2JZ wishes it could be this cool
Thanks Barry!
Great info Baz !
Love this
Great video . I would absolutely love to use Synergy 735, we go through at least 6-10 drums a year . It seems to be running about $2,300 a drum around here , which is a little pricey but it is top shelf . Is this an average market price compared to what other people are paying for this . Just wondering if this is a decent price or if i need to get a quote from a different distributor .
Love this!
Ran chrome plated brass dry earlier today. No air
Do most people use coolant when cutting steels like h-13 or s7?
My shop mostly cuts a2 and D2 with occasional aluminum. Our tool supplier suggests melling dry work exception being drilling
@@igorbarbarossa thanks for chiming in. I work in a pretty big tool and die shop and we pretty much exclusively cut steel with air, no coolant. Besides drilling like you mentioned.
Sure beats old school soluble oil
Has anyone ever used synergy 735? I’m about to switch coolants in my shop, and I’ve heard that it rusts parts and your machines, and leaves pitting on the bed. Right now we use the low grade hangsterfers, and I’m planning on switching to their semi-synthetic. Mostly leaning towards hangsterfers because my supplier doesn’t charge freight.
Synergy is a synthetic and I have used it for 4 years now and never had an issue. Love it…
If you have zinc nuts or coating… it could have a negative affect but it’s great on our Tormach, older Haas’s and all premium machines.
It’s also clear and you can see your work.
Used now by Boeing, McDonald’s Douglas and many top aero companies.
I run at 7% for soft materials and at 10% for hard.
I would advise against 735. I did a very thorough job cleaning out my machines prior to switching. I used it and hated it. Left my machines a sticky mess, as if someone poured soda everywhere. It’s striped paint off castings, caused premature rust, etc.. But also, my rep was terrible and offered basically no support. I fought, got a full refund, and would never think to use the stuff again.
We use it and really love it, we have no issues on our machines but have had minor issues with rust on parts if you don't monitor the concentration. We do run it pretty high like 8-10 on the brix But other than that it's the best coolant we've ever used.
ya i suppose i gotta learn this metelergy as well.
Metallurgy?
How does ceramic being inert mean it's all of sudden not susceptible to the laws of thermodynamics?
Diplomatic immunity.
Carbide and HSS are produced using heat (and pressure for some carbide inserts), too much heat can make them softer.
A HSS tool that is running without coolant will never reach 2800°f/1500°c since it will have become a pile of glowing red sludge, either somewhere in your enclosure or on the table (which is a massive pain in the ass)
The ceramic tools i use run comfortably at 2000°c and start to soften at 2800°c ( 3600°f and 5000°f iirc)
At above 1000°c, most metals also try to bond chemically with other ones that can ruin tool coatings and whatnot
The cutter heats the material and then wipes the lava red material away shearing it…
The cutter is chemically inert so it doesn’t heat up or suffer from thermal shock…
So it stays consistent…
And the material and chips take the heat.
@@angrydragonslayer I get that it might not be AFFECTED by the heat, but to say it doesnt heatup at all, is just contrary to the video where the cutter is literally glowing
Heat is your friend.
So long it’s going out with the chip… or your using ceramics.
I can't get any of my machines to do this. Some very important relevant info is being left out.
Hello sir, I am a big fan of you? I have question? Can we perform dry cutting on aluminum material on cnc turning machine??
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Does Blaser coolant require any special disposal practices once it past replaced?
How to control material bend??
Feed slower, clamp lighter, use tape for sheets, use thru holes in partially cut material as screw holes to bolt parts down to fixture.
he drink it :D oh my god :D that is really trust for what he is using . :D
What do you think about MQL?
I bet you guys buy the shit out of endmills
so thats why he acts the way he does, he drinks coolant all day
👍
Can bt30 do this ?
"Garim non bibi" don't drink the sauce.
Toilet wine….🍻
Oil!
Barry my man. B R E A T H. Breath in. SLOWLY... Hold it for a few seconds, and slowly exhale. Do it a few times. More relaxed now? OK. Good. Now start narrating the video.
What's the rush? It's not a race. You sound rushed. Like you are on a mission to finish this video as quickly as you can.
The narration is pretty similar to that in the Machine Thinking channel, which I like a lot.
Why don't you watch it at a slower playback speed if you have a problem understanding him?
Barry was the top Machinist / Programmer at General Atomics and now he is giving his wisdom and industry secrets to All for free… so we can bring awareness to industry and help companies compete… and employees to Rise. Sucks how people will skip over the greatness to say something negative.
If you want and actor with a perfect and fake voice… You definitely won’t learn anything of value.
Barry… Your a BEAST Brother…
Thanks for all you do…
Love having you on our team…
Dan.L., hey buddy, just cause he sounds like he is rushing, doesn't mean that something is wrong or amiss, etc., it might just mean that speaking quickly is how his mind works.
Lol i have more to do in 1 day than narrate a video 😂 We just got in a HUGE 5 axis mill that we are developing the post and simulation on, shooting videos, testing tools, making parts. 😂