yes they stopped my winter payment and made it impossible to gain pension credit unless you came by boat...i have a damaged lung and just got over my 2nd bout of pneumonia... so if i pop my clogs then i want the world to know starmer did it....
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus
Somehow I doubt it. We have an oil rad and used it in our outside utility room. Yes it worked well, but the room was small and it took ages to get the room up to temp. And it consumed electric like nobody's business. So we replaced it with a diesel heater. More efficient, much faster to heat, more economical. You can't compare a whole gas heating system to one oil filled radiator in one room. If you ran your entire water rad system to heat the house and then compared it with oil filled radiators in every room to heat the house, I think you would find your electric bill eye watering. That would be a fair comparison. And yes, I too lost my winter fuel allowance. Bar stewards!!
My gas boiler broke down last February and was out of action for 5 days. I took refuge in the 35 cubic metre sitting room with an oil filled radiator for heating. My daily fuel bills for gas, electricity, standing charges +VAT were normally about £3.75 per day. During that 5 days the costs averaged about £6.00 per day. The 1 metre, type 22, twin panel, gas central heating radiator in the same room at the 84 pence per cubic metre tariff I'm paying today only costs about £1 a day to run ( morning to evening). I experiment a lot and worked out that at that price for gas it costs about 50p per lineal metre of single panel radiator (60cm high) to run gas central heating per day [morning to evening]. By the way, for those who don't know it, to find the price of a cubic metre of gas, multiply the cost of a Kwh or unit by 11. That gives a close approximation.
Same experience here but in March for 8 days when it was -6 - Motherboard blew, bringing forward the planned changeout of boiler for the summer - Electric bill skyrocketed, kWh recorded for the month the highest for at least 7 years... Handy to have for an emergency all the same.
I have worked for social housing in the flats some have electric heating and their bill they complain about are massive and they are still cold ,this is telling me something
I got cheap fan heaters for if the boiler packed up and a watering can in the shower for the water its enough to get wet wash and rinse off just be very careful
I used one years ago, when I was living in a flat that had old storage heaters. I never used the storage heaters: terrible idea! I only had one, and used to leave it in the bedroom, so I could be warm coming out of the shower. Then we would wheel it into the living room. Worked a treat. Now, I use one in the garage workshop when the weather makes it difficult to spend any time pottering while you freeze. I'd always recommend having one on standby, just in case the heating goes on the blink.
For the same amount of energy electricity is four times the price of gas. However, before Thatcher screwed it all up, gas was ten times cheaper than electricity.
@@robertandrew5768 It's not bullshit, energy in Britain now the most expensive in the whole world! Fact-check the cost of it yourself before attacking others.
I guess you get very cheap gas ? My house is all electric, gas is not available here . My cost is 10 hours at 20p/kWh and 25p at the other 14 hours . Google says gas equivalents at 6.3p/kWh. So on the face of it that might be true ? However you hav to factor in the service cost ⁴year and boiler replacement/ upgrade every decade or so ? So not such a big difference. However it is true Thatcher was a trickster for sure !
I used an oil filled radiator when my central heating wasn't working properly. Used it in one room and it was cheaper than running the central heating, according to the smart meter. The rest of the house was chilly! Concerned about pipes potentially freezing, I use the central heating in the evening and one hour in the moring. I live in an old house where the humidity level is high downstairs, so I use a desiccant dehumidifier (no hepa filter) and this makes the room feel less cold. As long as I am active during the day time and wear thermals I can stay warm. Other than this I have thought about getting a heated throw.
Big hot water bottle dont want you to know this, get a big bottle of liquid clothes detergent from lidl the own brand one, decant it. Rinse it. Put a bit of cold water in, boil a kettle put that in. Put it on your lap or in your bed, rest it on your lap with thin blanket, it radiates heat for 5 or 6 hours, can put it under your legs in bed or on top too, don't rest all your weight on it though as it squeezes trickles of water out. It's very effective. Remarkably so.
I prefer a covered hot water bottle. Mine still has heat in it when I wake in the morning. I put one underneath my cats covers at one end which helps her as she is older. I live in an old baltic 240 year old cottage in 🏴. The central heating is a memory now. 9-14°C is my normal through the day 5/6 months of winter. The yearly standing charge from Scottish Power from January 1st is now £400. It breaks my heart. I can't believe i have to pay that each year which basically stops me using the gas & electric. If it wasn't a private let I lived in i would have the meters taken out and use a different light & heat source. The state pension only stretches so far.
@@margaretblack8538oh margaret, I feel your pain I feel your shame, but you're not to blame 🙏🏻😔 Sounds like you know what you're doing, despite the discomfort, keep going 👍🏻
Speaking from the otherside of Dawlish. I put the heating on for a few hours late evening then I turn it off and use an electric oil radiator in my bedroom with a thermostat which just keeps the chill of the bedroom. The cost of gas for running the central heating quickly adds up to a staggering amount.
I have no mains gas in my small one bedroom house. During the day I sit in my living room with a 2kw oil free Dimplex radiater, though I only use 1kw setting. This costs approximately 24-25p per hour. I use it for 7 hours . I also have a heated throw, approximately 150w, when I’m sitting down. In the evening I switch off my electric heater and use a calor gas heater, which costs about 50 pounds per gas bottle. This lasts three weeks. My electric bill in the winter is about £115 per month. Obviously that includes cooking, washing machine, tumble dryer, kettles, shower etc as well as the electric heater. I only heat the upstairs bedroom for a short time when I’m showering as that’s where my shower is situated. My downstairs toilet just has a heated towel rail and is seldom switched on. I’m 77 and I just get by with this amount of heating in my tiny house.
@@MargaretBassett-uf1fi thanks! I couldn’t do without my tumble dryer. It’s a condenser type and doesn’t use up much electricity as I’ve worked it out. It’s used twice a week for an hour each time. I’ve got a couple of oil filled radiators but prefer the oil free one as it heats up quicker, though it also cools down quickly . It’s a Dimplex Cadiz. Re dehumidifier-I’ve got an Ebac one and put it on mainly when the calor gas heater is on, since gas heaters produce a lot of condensation. That way I can keep the humidity in the room to under 50%. Using all these electrical appliances gives me a winter bill as I said of about £115, and a summer months bill of about 50-60 pounds per month. Luckily it’s manageable for me financially. It does help that my house is tiny! I have a small garden for hanging out clothes in the summer (when we occasionally get good weather here in Scotland!)
Flush your house/flat first thing by opening the windows for 5/10 minutes. You're not "letting the heat out" you're letting high humidity air out. The dry air that comes in has a lot less moisture in it and will heat up *much* quicker than blindly heating the warm & damp air you already had. Humidity is probably more important than temperature for comfort. It also solves many damp problems!
WE are all dreading the bills apart from the MPs and fat cats . The Winter fuel allowance was brought in for times like these it's despicable and indefensible to take the allowance away and will simply end up in more hospital admissions which will cost thousands 😢
@susieadams1553 I'll tell you who won't be: the people in hotels, the reason our taxes have been increased. We're paying for their health and prosperity, so we're too weak to fight.
If you only use a few rooms during the day the oil filled radiators are a convenient option for maintaining a comfortable ambient temperature. Also, these heaters never seem to break down. One big cost associated with central heating is related to the oil/gas boiler - ie, annual servicing, repairs and replacement. Also, wet radiators have associated costs such as cleaning out and eventual replacement.
A convector heater uses only slightly more electricity than an oil filled radiator but heats the room up 10 times faster. I have one of that central heating room thermostats that maintains a constant temperature rather than heating and then turning off. Once up to temp the boiler only comes on for about 30 seconds every 20 minutes, the radiators are less than luke warm yet the house is a constant 19c.
Long ago as a young consulting engineer we designed an old people's home with wet underfloor heating at about 18 deg C and small electric heaters to top up the heating or adjust it to what they wanted. At the time, low surface temp rads were limited and pricey, not to mention huge, so this provided a simple solution that gave the oldies control over their immediate environments and protected them from high surface temperatures as we used simple warm air convectors where the element was suspended in the casing. As I recall the electric heater was about 350W only.
I have been looking at what the Japanese do. Their houses generally are totally uninsulated as they have to deal with humid conditions in the summer. They seem to have very good clothing with multiple layers but use tables with electric heaters in them that have a warm quilt around the side which they sit under. It’s called a kotatsu table. Also, they have air to air heat pumps that double up as air-conditioning in the summer. They must be getting something right because their life expectancy is in the 90s.
Stopped using gas central heating 4 years ago. Now I use 1 or 2 (2 only when it’s freezing outside. One in kitchen, one in living room) 1960’s little bedroom size paraffin heaters. Costs around £2.50 each per day of around 14 hours burn time.. I sit at +22 degrees….
An efficient wet central heating system will be much cheaper to run than the equivalent set-up of electric oil radiators across the house. But in the depths of winter, what works for me (convenience / comfort wise) is to run my wet central heating system across the whole house for just 1 hour three times a day, but also to run an electric oil radiator (with a good timer or thermostat) in a small bedroom converted for use as a second living room (with comfortable armchair, small folding table for eating and TV).
@@philgoff7563 I did read ( from a reliable source) that the heat created from one KW will be the same regardless of type or make of heater. As gas is less than a quarter the price of gas. It seems logical that gas wins. The only slight downside, I can see, is that with gasfires (which I use) some of the heat goes directly up the chimney.
I live in 3 bed detached with full central heating. I’m often on my own so rather than heat the whole house up I use an electric oil radiator to heat the small room I’m working in. In the evening when I’m using the rest of the house I let it heat up with the gas central heating and of course turn off the oil heater. It seems like the best solution for me. I also have solar panels so if the sun is out in the winter I probably don’t take a big penalty on the electric bill.
I dont think there is any comparison the two heating systems are two different beasts the wet system is for whole house heat or can be used for just one room whereas the electric one is really for just heating one room, I think it is down to how you want to heat your house
It doesn't take much working out. Typically electricity is about 4 times more expensive than gas per Kwh, for me elec 22p and gas 6p. If the oil filled radiator was 100% efficient running at 1 Kw for 10 hours would cost £2.20. Even if the gas system was only 50% efficient it would only cost £1.20 for the same 10Kw used (10 x 6p = 60p x 50% = £1.20) QED You must compare like with like
They work well. People who live in vans swear by them and they are much cheaper than conventional heating. However safety is everything and the potential hazards are obvious for sensible users. If diesel heaters were used widely there would bound to be tragedies. The cost savings are very attractive and I think the Government would ban them outright if they became more popular just to prevent any deaths before they might happen.
Good quality diesel heaters are a common occurence among the narrowboat community . A lot of cheap imports are available and some may be questionable safety wise. A professionally installed marine diesel heater usually works well in that environment.
Something I have discovered, is that by putting my radiators on inside walls in the house, and removing them from any positioned on an outside wall or under a window, the house heats up quicker, and the house is much warmer. I discovered this when I lived in a flat and the plumber fitted all the radiators on the inside walls, placing them just inside the door way inside wall. I said to him should they not be put under the windows, he said no, ''having them where I have placed them, means that the pipe runs are much less, and why would you want to heat up a cold wall''. I found that he was correct, the flat was always hot, and the cost of running the boiler was much less, the boiler fitted was a Vailliant.
@@dereton33 That is exactly what I thought, but I was proved wrong, from the flat, I moved to a detached house on the coast, with a new microbore system, all radiators were either under windows or on outside walls, in winter the house was never warm, even running the system 24/7. So ditched the microbore and put in 15mm and 22mm and 28mm from the boiler, with all radiators moved to internal walls. The house was never cold in winter after that.
These are great little heaters I have 3 of them, BUT, since the cost of elect went through the roof, I hardly use them, I only keep them as back up now in case our (oil fired) central heating breaks down. One 2kw heater may be okay to run after midnight at 'cheap rate', if you want to stay up late to say watch TV in a small room, I wouldn't recommend much more use than that. I'm an ex electrician, retired. But they are great as backup/or an alternative heat source IMHO!
i bought a mini 500 watt thermostat controlled oil filled radiator last year less than £30 works really well for the living room or bedroom easy to move round and cheap to run.
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Heated blanket cosy _and_ portable I have wet rads (scarf and woolly hats) but my hands still cold _until_ I cut ends off _socks_ to put over my wrists #toasty
We have a large house and we have our central heating set to 15°C to keep the bills down, the heating comes on for 2 hrs in the morning and for 5 hrs in the evening this keeps the house warm but in really cold weather we use Delongi oil filled radiators that heat up quickly and can heat up large rooms to comfortable temps.
@@jennyomalley7634 of all players it was not the British that blew up the pipeline, its not our supply - its more for central Europe like Germany. Wasn't realistically Russia either, they could just turn it off at the tap and made a fortune from it. Its actually rather inconvenient who was likely behind it should you consider recent information obtained by respected Western publications. Polish authorities already sent out a few arrest warrants for a handful of visitor "diving instructors" who rented a boat that was tested for contraband needed to damage the pipeline
Interesting, it might be worth me getting an oil radiator for my office, as I work from home, so heating the whole house is a bit unnecessary. Currently I just keep all of the radiators set to max and the smart thermostat at a set temperature.
They're great for under a desk or just general use. They warm up a small room well and hold their heat for a while so you don't need it on all the time. They have heat settings and thermostat settings so all in all I would recommend them over fan or halogen heaters for personal/general use.
Agreed. I work from home and have an electric oil rad in my office. I just turn on the GCH in the evening when I’m using the rest of the house and to get the bedrooms cosy. Otherwise heating the whole house all the time is waste of money. -Well that’s what I think anyway.
All that is going scewwiffy with Octopus energy tariff's and pushing up gas prices to pay for Net Zero . We just ramp down the house temp to 16 degrees but ramp up the living room to 20 , so we save that way, using the wet system. Going to the bathroom is a bit of challenge mind and one has to prep it if one wants a bath.
My gas is way cheaper than electric - I tend to just leave rooms not in use closed and have the lounge at 21c and hall rad 19c and a towel rail in the bathroom - an hour before bed opening the bedroom door - works for me - it was -2c outdoors today
Yes all our thermo rad valves set at 3 except bathroom which is fully on(was told to leave one rad fully on to relieve pressure on system)have adjusted boiler flow temp down (it was at 75 deg when installed,think its at 55 now and rads still get hot.We have a hive movable room stat so our coldest room joined to kitchen with patio doors and roof lantern (always around 2 deg colder than adjoining room)set the stat in there around 17 and let it run during the day(always off during the night) .Find if we let it go off and temp drops alot it takes alot to get it back up there again so it must use alot more gas to do that.Although 17 does not seem that hot because we have lots of insulation especially in the room i mentioned which is a new exten.and has up to date ins.materials even in the current outside temps it is warm.
I have several electric oil rads to supplement an ancient Potterton gas boiler heated system. I had one electric oil rad from a known brand fail on me. Wouldn’t heat up. Never did manage to fix it. In that instance lost money due to the original outlay for what was a fairly new rad.
Yeah but to fill a room the rads are sized accordingly ...if you just wanna have it on and pretend you're warm then that's his thing ...but these things leak And use 2kw of power and not cheap ...better getting the warm air electric heaters these are 1kw or 2kw and warm up instantly and £20 max I'd say anyway -10 nxt few days wrap up.
@@edwardcullen3251 18 is more than warm enough in the winter, its actually the average home temp in the UK. In the 60s the average was 12c. It normal and healthy to be a bit colder in the winter, boosts the immune system and less recycled air slows the spread of bugs.
Electric powered heating is a great backup for when your gas fails but boy you will have to pay big money to use it even if they reduced the cost of electricity to £0.05 per kWh it would still be expensive.
Still dint know what boiler cost anyone? I have tested oilfill radiators will heat a large room for 7 pound a day on 24.7 so 50 a week to heat 1 large room. I have since tested a chinese diesil heater and is saving me 600 to a thousand a winter 6 months run it on heating oil abot 6 p a hour when bought in bulk cist 70 pound plus some bits drill etc is the best on the market now 21 pound a week on 24.7.cost of runjing boiler anyone?
Become a tortoise 🐢, ideal hibernation temperature is 3 to 10 deg/c (no heating required ) but seriously you wouldn't think the uk was 6th richest nation in the world, someone is benefitting extremely well out of the ridiculous energy prices Should've done what France did and built lots of nuclear power plants in the 1970's
Well of course its cheaper, It shuts off the heating to the rest of the house! Heating one room with a gas boiler would be cheaper than this electric heater.
in an insulated room they only run for a bit before turning off, thats the point of the oil, it acts like a thermal battery and turns on just to top it off. Very efficient compared to heating a whole house with a boiler
Boilers use gas…but don’t forget the electric for the thermostat, pump, boiler internals etc etc and maintenance costs too…. Gas boiler…heat pump, electric rads and heaters…no thanks..don’t wish to sell a kidney this winter to pay to keep warm…I like my good old reliable paraffin…
Just plain wrong that we are all wearing hats and coats indoors. Tipsters on television telling us about heating the person rather than the room. Just plain wrong ...
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So the conclusion is that it costs less to heat one room rather than the whole house - wow what a surprise 😆 Tell the bloke to get a wife and 2 kids and he won't be running one little oil heater when watching TV at night.
I get my wife to ring her mum on FaceTime, the hot air generated is more than enough to heat my 78 bed mansion
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@@calibremanmy house is so cold I stand in the garden to keep warm
yes they stopped my winter payment and made it impossible to gain pension credit unless you came by boat...i have a damaged lung and just got over my 2nd bout of pneumonia... so if i pop my clogs then i want the world to know starmer did it....
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Somehow I doubt it. We have an oil rad and used it in our outside utility room. Yes it worked well, but the room was small and it took ages to get the room up to temp. And it consumed electric like nobody's business. So we replaced it with a diesel heater. More efficient, much faster to heat, more economical. You can't compare a whole gas heating system to one oil filled radiator in one room. If you ran your entire water rad system to heat the house and then compared it with oil filled radiators in every room to heat the house, I think you would find your electric bill eye watering. That would be a fair comparison. And yes, I too lost my winter fuel allowance. Bar stewards!!
Thanks Jamie.
My gas boiler broke down last February and was out of action for 5 days. I took refuge in the 35 cubic metre sitting room with an oil filled radiator for heating. My daily fuel bills for gas, electricity, standing charges +VAT were normally about £3.75 per day. During that 5 days the costs averaged about £6.00 per day. The 1 metre, type 22, twin panel, gas central heating radiator in the same room at the 84 pence per cubic metre tariff I'm paying today only costs about £1 a day to run ( morning to evening). I experiment a lot and worked out that at that price for gas it costs about 50p per lineal metre of single panel radiator (60cm high) to run gas central heating per day [morning to evening]. By the way, for those who don't know it, to find the price of a cubic metre of gas, multiply the cost of a Kwh or unit by 11. That gives a close approximation.
Same experience here but in March for 8 days when it was -6 - Motherboard blew, bringing forward the planned changeout of boiler for the summer - Electric bill skyrocketed, kWh recorded for the month the highest for at least 7 years... Handy to have for an emergency all the same.
So... The electric oil filled rads are very expensive compared to gas central heating rads? I have a couple but will keep them for emergencies only.
I have worked for social housing in the flats some have electric heating and their bill they complain about are massive and they are still cold ,this is telling me something
I got cheap fan heaters for if the boiler packed up and a watering can in the shower for the water its enough to get wet wash and rinse off just be very careful
It really shouldn't be like this should it when these companies are making billions on us. I used to only put my coat on when I went outside.
Welcome to the new age.
@@dereton33 The new age of unfettered corporate greed.
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I used one years ago, when I was living in a flat that had old storage heaters. I never used the storage heaters: terrible idea! I only had one, and used to leave it in the bedroom, so I could be warm coming out of the shower. Then we would wheel it into the living room.
Worked a treat.
Now, I use one in the garage workshop when the weather makes it difficult to spend any time pottering while you freeze.
I'd always recommend having one on standby, just in case the heating goes on the blink.
For the same amount of energy electricity is four times the price of gas. However, before Thatcher screwed it all up, gas was ten times cheaper than electricity.
Bullshit !
@@robertandrew5768 It's not bullshit, energy in Britain now the most expensive in the whole world! Fact-check the cost of it yourself before attacking others.
I guess you get very cheap gas ? My house is all electric, gas is not available here . My cost is 10 hours at 20p/kWh and 25p at the other 14 hours .
Google says gas equivalents at 6.3p/kWh. So on the face of it that might be true ? However you hav to factor in the service cost ⁴year and boiler replacement/ upgrade every decade or so ? So not such a big difference. However it is true Thatcher was a trickster for sure !
I remember it well... £10...lasted at least a fortnight (gas /leccy)... Before thatchers helping hand 😡... Now.. It's a tenners worth of candles 😡❤️🇬🇧
@@robduncan599 shop around , your economy 10 is expensive. I get 7p a kWh for 6 hours with Octopus
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I used an oil filled radiator when my central heating wasn't working properly. Used it in one room and it was cheaper than running the central heating, according to the smart meter. The rest of the house was chilly! Concerned about pipes potentially freezing, I use the central heating in the evening and one hour in the moring. I live in an old house where the humidity level is high downstairs, so I use a desiccant dehumidifier (no hepa filter) and this makes the room feel less cold. As long as I am active during the day time and wear thermals I can stay warm. Other than this I have thought about getting a heated throw.
Big hot water bottle dont want you to know this, get a big bottle of liquid clothes detergent from lidl the own brand one, decant it. Rinse it. Put a bit of cold water in, boil a kettle put that in. Put it on your lap or in your bed, rest it on your lap with thin blanket, it radiates heat for 5 or 6 hours, can put it under your legs in bed or on top too, don't rest all your weight on it though as it squeezes trickles of water out. It's very effective. Remarkably so.
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I prefer a covered hot water bottle. Mine still has heat in it when I wake in the morning. I put one underneath my cats covers at one end which helps her as she is older. I live in an old baltic 240 year old cottage in 🏴. The central heating is a memory now. 9-14°C is my normal through the day 5/6 months of winter. The yearly standing charge from Scottish Power from January 1st is now £400. It breaks my heart. I can't believe i have to pay that each year which basically stops me using the gas & electric. If it wasn't a private let I lived in i would have the meters taken out and use a different light & heat source. The state pension only stretches so far.
@@margaretblack8538oh margaret, I feel your pain I feel your shame, but you're not to blame 🙏🏻😔
Sounds like you know what you're doing, despite the discomfort, keep going 👍🏻
Speaking from the otherside of Dawlish. I put the heating on for a few hours late evening then I turn it off and use an electric oil radiator in my bedroom with a thermostat which just keeps the chill of the bedroom. The cost of gas for running the central heating quickly adds up to a staggering amount.
Thanks for sharing
I have no mains gas in my small one bedroom house. During the day I sit in my living room with a 2kw oil free Dimplex radiater, though I only use 1kw setting. This costs approximately 24-25p per hour. I use it for 7 hours . I also have a heated throw, approximately 150w, when I’m sitting down. In the evening I switch off my electric heater and use a calor gas heater, which costs about 50 pounds per gas bottle. This lasts three weeks. My electric bill in the winter is about £115 per month. Obviously that includes cooking, washing machine, tumble dryer, kettles, shower etc as well as the electric heater. I only heat the upstairs bedroom for a short time when I’m showering as that’s where my shower is situated. My downstairs toilet just has a heated towel rail and is seldom switched on. I’m 77 and I just get by with this amount of heating in my tiny house.
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Sell the tumble dryer and get a de humidifier.same with the Dimplex, get an oil filled radiator.
@@MargaretBassett-uf1fi thanks! I couldn’t do without my tumble dryer. It’s a condenser type and doesn’t use up much electricity as I’ve worked it out. It’s used twice a week for an hour each time. I’ve got a couple of oil filled radiators but prefer the oil free one as it heats up quicker, though it also cools down quickly . It’s a Dimplex Cadiz. Re dehumidifier-I’ve got an Ebac one and put it on mainly when the calor gas heater is on, since gas heaters produce a lot of condensation. That way I can keep the humidity in the room to under 50%. Using all these electrical appliances gives me a winter bill as I said of about £115, and a summer months bill of about 50-60 pounds per month. Luckily it’s manageable for me financially. It does help that my house is tiny! I have a small garden for hanging out clothes in the summer (when we occasionally get good weather here in Scotland!)
Im dreading the next few days of predicted minus 7 degrees weather and how much its going to cost.
Flush your house/flat first thing by opening the windows for 5/10 minutes.
You're not "letting the heat out" you're letting high humidity air out. The dry air that comes in has a lot less moisture in it and will heat up *much* quicker than blindly heating the warm & damp air you already had. Humidity is probably more important than temperature for comfort. It also solves many damp problems!
@georgeprout42 I know this, buddy, but thanks for the advice.
@@georgeprout42A downside is that dry air isn't too good for the lungs.
WE are all dreading the bills apart from the MPs and fat cats . The Winter fuel allowance was brought in for times like these it's despicable and indefensible to take the allowance away and will simply end up in more hospital admissions which will cost thousands 😢
@susieadams1553 I'll tell you who won't be: the people in hotels, the reason our taxes have been increased. We're paying for their health and prosperity, so we're too weak to fight.
If you only use a few rooms during the day the oil filled radiators are a convenient option for maintaining a comfortable ambient temperature. Also, these heaters never seem to break down. One big cost associated with central heating is related to the oil/gas boiler - ie, annual servicing, repairs and replacement. Also, wet radiators have associated costs such as cleaning out and eventual replacement.
Cheers Brian.
A convector heater uses only slightly more electricity than an oil filled radiator but heats the room up 10 times faster. I have one of that central heating room thermostats that maintains a constant temperature rather than heating and then turning off. Once up to temp the boiler only comes on for about 30 seconds every 20 minutes, the radiators are less than luke warm yet the house is a constant 19c.
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An oil filled radiator is an electric convection heater. The only difference is that the oil has to heat up before it warms the room.
Long ago as a young consulting engineer we designed an old people's home with wet underfloor heating at about 18 deg C and small electric heaters to top up the heating or adjust it to what they wanted. At the time, low surface temp rads were limited and pricey, not to mention huge, so this provided a simple solution that gave the oldies control over their immediate environments and protected them from high surface temperatures as we used simple warm air convectors where the element was suspended in the casing. As I recall the electric heater was about 350W only.
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My friend is an MP I spend the cold days in his second home, it's toasty warm. 😆😁😂...
Good idea Paul.
I have been looking at what the Japanese do.
Their houses generally are totally uninsulated as they have to deal with humid conditions in the summer. They seem to have very good clothing with multiple layers but use tables with electric heaters in them that have a warm quilt around the side which they sit under. It’s called a kotatsu table. Also, they have air to air heat pumps that double up as air-conditioning in the summer.
They must be getting something right because their life expectancy is in the 90s.
Thanks kev.
Stopped using gas central heating 4 years ago. Now I use 1 or 2 (2 only when it’s freezing outside. One in kitchen, one in living room) 1960’s little bedroom size paraffin heaters. Costs around £2.50 each per day of around 14 hours burn time.. I sit at +22 degrees….
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An efficient wet central heating system will be much cheaper to run than the equivalent set-up of electric oil radiators across the house. But in the depths of winter, what works for me (convenience / comfort wise) is to run my wet central heating system across the whole house for just 1 hour three times a day, but also to run an electric oil radiator (with a good timer or thermostat) in a small bedroom converted for use as a second living room (with comfortable armchair, small folding table for eating and TV).
Thanks Bob.
500W under my chair and extra clothing works for me without gas and doors closed. Don't know if it's cheaper, but my gut says it is.
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Oil rads are great for heating a small room! Once the oil is hot, it stays hot for a long time.
No cheaper than any other electric heater though.
@@philgoff7563 I did read ( from a reliable source) that the heat created from one KW will be the same regardless of type or make of heater. As gas is less than a quarter the price of gas. It seems logical that gas wins. The only slight downside, I can see, is that with gasfires (which I use) some of the heat goes directly up the chimney.
Great point!
I live in 3 bed detached with full central heating. I’m often on my own so rather than heat the whole house up I use an electric oil radiator to heat the small room I’m working in. In the evening when I’m using the rest of the house I let it heat up with the gas central heating and of course turn off the oil heater. It seems like the best solution for me. I also have solar panels so if the sun is out in the winter I probably don’t take a big penalty on the electric bill.
Thanks Dave.
I dont think there is any comparison the two heating systems are two different beasts the wet system is for whole house heat or can be used for just one room whereas the electric one is really for just heating one room, I think it is down to how you want to heat your house
Thanks Mike.
It doesn't take much working out. Typically electricity is about 4 times more expensive than gas per Kwh, for me elec 22p and gas 6p. If the oil filled radiator was 100% efficient running at 1 Kw for 10 hours would cost £2.20. Even if the gas system was only 50% efficient it would only cost £1.20 for the same 10Kw used (10 x 6p = 60p x 50% = £1.20) QED You must compare like with like
Thanks Pete.
Chinese diesel heater even cheaper if you can fit it into your house safely.
They work well. People who live in vans swear by them and they are much cheaper than conventional heating. However safety is everything and the potential hazards are obvious for sensible users. If diesel heaters were used widely there would bound to be tragedies. The cost savings are very attractive and I think the Government would ban them outright if they became more popular just to prevent any deaths before they might happen.
health and safety.
Good quality diesel heaters are a common occurence among the narrowboat community . A lot of cheap imports are available and some may be questionable safety wise. A professionally installed marine diesel heater usually works well in that environment.
Something I have discovered, is that by putting my radiators on inside walls in the house, and removing them from any positioned on an outside wall or under a window, the house heats up quicker, and the house is much warmer. I discovered this when I lived in a flat and the plumber fitted all the radiators on the inside walls, placing them just inside the door way inside wall. I said to him should they not be put under the windows, he said no, ''having them where I have placed them, means that the pipe runs are much less, and why would you want to heat up a cold wall''. I found that he was correct, the flat was always hot, and the cost of running the boiler was much less, the boiler fitted was a Vailliant.
This is the worse place to put rads. There is a reason they work better under windows.
@@dereton33 That is exactly what I thought, but I was proved wrong, from the flat, I moved to a detached house on the coast, with a new microbore system, all radiators were either under windows or on outside walls, in winter the house was never warm, even running the system 24/7. So ditched the microbore and put in 15mm and 22mm and 28mm from the boiler, with all radiators moved to internal walls. The house was never cold in winter after that.
These are great little heaters I have 3 of them, BUT, since the cost of elect went through the roof, I hardly use them, I only keep them as back up now in case our (oil fired) central heating breaks down. One 2kw heater may be okay to run after midnight at 'cheap rate', if you want to stay up late to say watch TV in a small room, I wouldn't recommend much more use than that. I'm an ex electrician, retired. But they are great as backup/or an alternative heat source IMHO!
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i bought a mini 500 watt thermostat controlled oil filled radiator last year less than £30 works really well for the living room or bedroom easy to move round and cheap to run.
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Thanks for the sub! Cheers Stewart.
Heated blanket cosy _and_ portable I have wet rads (scarf and woolly hats) but my hands still cold _until_ I cut ends off _socks_ to put over my wrists #toasty
Keep warm.
We have a large house and we have our central heating set to 15°C to keep the bills down, the heating comes on for 2 hrs in the morning and for 5 hrs in the evening this keeps the house warm but in really cold weather we use Delongi oil filled radiators that heat up quickly and can heat up large rooms to comfortable temps.
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Did you lose your winter fuel payment?
Maybe if the British had NOT blown-up the fuel pipe-line , then the heating costs wouldn't be so expensive.
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@@jennyomalley7634 of all players it was not the British that blew up the pipeline, its not our supply - its more for central Europe like Germany. Wasn't realistically Russia either, they could just turn it off at the tap and made a fortune from it. Its actually rather inconvenient who was likely behind it should you consider recent information obtained by respected Western publications. Polish authorities already sent out a few arrest warrants for a handful of visitor "diving instructors" who rented a boat that was tested for contraband needed to damage the pipeline
@@jennyomalley7634 it's so expensive because of ridiculous net zero!
@@jennyomalley7634I thought it was the yanks. 😂
Interesting, it might be worth me getting an oil radiator for my office, as I work from home, so heating the whole house is a bit unnecessary. Currently I just keep all of the radiators set to max and the smart thermostat at a set temperature.
They're great for under a desk or just general use. They warm up a small room well and hold their heat for a while so you don't need it on all the time. They have heat settings and thermostat settings so all in all I would recommend them over fan or halogen heaters for personal/general use.
a modern electric blanket is king of cheap heating when it comes to solitary heating
If it's unnecessary to heat the whole house, you could turn off/down the other radiators and just use the smart thermostat in the room you work in.
Agreed. I work from home and have an electric oil rad in my office. I just turn on the GCH in the evening when I’m using the rest of the house and to get the bedrooms cosy. Otherwise heating the whole house all the time is waste of money. -Well that’s what I think anyway.
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All that is going scewwiffy with Octopus energy tariff's and pushing up gas prices to pay for Net Zero . We just ramp down the house temp to 16 degrees but ramp up the living room to 20 , so we save that way, using the wet system. Going to the bathroom is a bit of challenge mind and one has to prep it if one wants a bath.
A bath. Mine is just for the spiders to use ha ha.
@@dereton33 They are good at trapping spiders , i even have Robins waiting for me to throw them out
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My gas is way cheaper than electric - I tend to just leave rooms not in use closed and have the lounge at 21c and hall rad 19c and a towel rail in the bathroom - an hour before bed opening the bedroom door - works for me - it was -2c outdoors today
Thanks Trev.
Yes all our thermo rad valves set at 3 except bathroom which is fully on(was told to leave one rad fully on to relieve pressure on system)have adjusted boiler flow temp down (it was at 75 deg when installed,think its at 55 now and rads still get hot.We have a hive movable room stat so our coldest room joined to kitchen with patio doors and roof lantern (always around 2 deg colder than adjoining room)set the stat in there around 17 and let it run during the day(always off during the night) .Find if we let it go off and temp drops alot it takes alot to get it back up there again so it must use alot more gas to do that.Although 17 does not seem that hot because we have lots of insulation especially in the room i mentioned which is a new exten.and has up to date ins.materials even in the current outside temps it is warm.
Installation cost and servicing, repair costs?
swings and rounabouts.
I have several electric oil rads to supplement an ancient Potterton gas boiler heated system. I had one electric oil rad from a known brand fail on me. Wouldn’t heat up. Never did manage to fix it. In that instance lost money due to the original outlay for what was a fairly new rad.
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Sounds like he needs a heated throw.
Yes throw one my way ha ha.
If you have heating on but only one rad on it will overheat and require a £400 new heat exchanger
It shouldn't do. Even the gas companies and Martin Lewis say to only have one turned at a time.
Still none the wiser.
Swings and roundabouts. Read the reviews.
Even cheaper, just wear a duvet.
Ha ha. Cheers Dave.
How much was your oil radiator and what make or model is it , thank you , take care .
a purmati. cost £95.00
@@dereton33 thanks ,
Yeah but to fill a room the rads are sized accordingly ...if you just wanna have it on and pretend you're warm then that's his thing ...but these things leak And use 2kw of power and not cheap ...better getting the warm air electric heaters these are 1kw or 2kw and warm up instantly and £20 max I'd say anyway -10 nxt few days wrap up.
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If you were to factor in the cost of wet central heating installation I guess you could use you oil filled radiator for quite a time.
True sue.
Gas?
In the future when all these windmills supposedly make electricity cheaper?
No, don't fall for all their climate/zero nonesense, it's all a scam, they want us poor, preferably dead.
A fallacy.
18 degrees is toasty for a lot of people. We never get higher than 16 in the winter.
18c?! That's freezing. You nuts?! 23c.
@@edwardcullen3251 18 is more than warm enough in the winter, its actually the average home temp in the UK. In the 60s the average was 12c. It normal and healthy to be a bit colder in the winter, boosts the immune system and less recycled air slows the spread of bugs.
18 indoors for the winter is the colder side .19 is better .
Mine is on 18 at the moment and I'm so cold, I also have layers on.
Is that what your thermostat is set to? What is the actual temperature of the house? Ours is set on 17°c but house temp is 21° to 22°.
Electric powered heating is a great backup for when your gas fails but boy you will have to pay big money to use it even if they reduced the cost of electricity to £0.05 per kWh it would still be expensive.
Thanks jim.
Why not have heated seats surely that would be more efficient.
Still have to plug them in.
Still dint know what boiler cost anyone? I have tested oilfill radiators will heat a large room for 7 pound a day on 24.7 so 50 a week to heat 1 large room. I have since tested a chinese diesil heater and is saving me 600 to a thousand a winter 6 months run it on heating oil abot 6 p a hour when bought in bulk cist 70 pound plus some bits drill etc is the best on the market now 21 pound a week on 24.7.cost of runjing boiler anyone?
Thanks Mike.
Become a tortoise 🐢, ideal hibernation temperature is 3 to 10 deg/c (no heating required ) but seriously you wouldn't think the uk was 6th richest nation in the world, someone is benefitting extremely well out of the ridiculous energy prices
Should've done what France did and built lots of nuclear power plants in the 1970's
ha ha.
Eh? but, but I thought Labour said energy bills would be cheaper? Have they lied?? 🙂
What!!! the leibor party nooo.
Try candles, lot cheaper.. Real affordable heating in uk now... Or the next best... No heating at all in rip off uk😢😡😡😡😡😡
Nice one.
To heat my home, I just leave the fridge door open!
Ha ha.
Corporate manslaughter?
Most of your arguments would only make sense if the cost per kWh was the same for gas oil and electric… which it isn’t.
The difference is here that only one room is being heated.
Well of course its cheaper, It shuts off the heating to the rest of the house! Heating one room with a gas boiler would be cheaper than this electric heater.
Thanks Steve.
The oil radiators really ain't worth the 2000watts that they run at.
in an insulated room they only run for a bit before turning off, thats the point of the oil, it acts like a thermal battery and turns on just to top it off. Very efficient compared to heating a whole house with a boiler
@nxxynx5039…and you wouldn’t have it on full whack anyway. For continuous use during the day I would guess about 300-500w would be sufficient.
Thanks guys
Oil filled or not makes no difference. It's an expensive to run electric heater.
see reviews before making this comment.
@dereton33 Why?
It should be cheaper as he is only heating one room, I'd rather heat the whole house...
Thanks John.
Boilers use gas…but don’t forget the electric for the thermostat, pump, boiler internals etc etc and maintenance costs too…. Gas boiler…heat pump, electric rads and heaters…no thanks..don’t wish to sell a kidney this winter to pay to keep warm…I like my good old reliable paraffin…
Wow you can still get them.
Portable gas heater in one room….
Ok.
Just plain wrong that we are all wearing hats and coats indoors. Tipsters on television telling us about heating the person rather than the room. Just plain wrong ...
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Just hated these oil filled rads…cause soot and are very inefficient. A Duronic multi plate heater is far better and more efficient.
The electric ones are cheaper
What do you mean?
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So the conclusion is that it costs less to heat one room rather than the whole house - wow what a surprise 😆
Tell the bloke to get a wife and 2 kids and he won't be running one little oil heater when watching TV at night.
Just getting other views on it.
Is heating 1 room cheaper than heating the whole house? FFS have a titter of wit please.
No need for that archie.
Any chance of that in a language I can understand-like English? Complete gobbledygook!
Sorry I only speak English. not your gobbley.