I respect the previous comment on this video; however, I also have great respect for the role play that is exemplified here. As a first year grad student studying Rogers and humanistic psychology, I profited greatly from watching this, albeit scripted, thorough and earnest example of actual Rogerian therapy. I learned a lot and thank you for helping me on my journey.
I know some people have commented on the lack of empathy and congruence. However, that is not something I feel you can learn from others, it is something you develop as you grow. I have no issues with that but I have found it immensely helpful to learn from the techniques shown here.
I don't care about anything in the video but about the good part. I could see very clear how the "person-centered" therapy was performed and I learned a lot from it. I could also see how a teenager client can be with a therapist, the questions they do, the way they act, and even the 'problem' example that is very similar to other adolescents' problems. I love it. I noticed the leg of the girl but I just ignored because I was looking to learn something, not to judge or criticize the video or the actors. Excellent example of the "person-centered therapy", thank you for sharing it.
I appreciated the example of the client being upset that they weren't getting a straight answer on how to "fix their problem" and that "why they are going to therapy"... This seems to me to be at the core of Rogerian philosophy - the client already has all of the answers. They might not feel that or even know it, or believe it! But when we provide the space for them to move all of their frustrations and disappointments then a clearer more congruent answer will come forward for them. Do I have this right?
I am just starting to do my Counselling training and found this immensely useful. I found the techniques I was looking for as early examples. Yes it was devoid of emotion but that allowed me to look for the basic skills as outlined and knowing I would bring my own to the table almost like a blank canvas. Thanks
Aggghhh! PCT is not taught via role-play, but by 'real-play' and the development of confident authenticity/congruence in encounter groups. It is about being genuine, and working with attitudes, not 'strategies'(!). The goal is not to help the client 'achieve self-actualisation', because she is always actualising. These points are subtle, but really important.
I feel what you are saying. When they said in the beginning about looking for empathy, congruence and unconditional positive regard as a "strategy" make it seem like a therapist uses it as a means to an end. Which takes the empathy portion out of it, and is keening in on anticipating a certain response rather than being in, with, and for a client's experience of subjective exploration. Plus, I saw the Gloria tapes about five times, and I was kind of cringing when the role-playing therapist copied quotes from Rogers in that session. It seemed a bit forced... This contradicts the environment Person-Centered therapy is attempting to construct within a session. Role-Playing takes the authenticity of a situation and emotions out of an experience, because the experience may not be real. This is why I agree with you when you say that Person-Centered therapy is not taught via role play. Empathy is not a strategy, it is a process of being with another person.
Thanks for this example. I especially appreciate you took the time at the beginning to highlight the core conditions of the approach- I would love to be counselled by you in real life lol.
There are quite a few closed questions and body language is not being mirrored but it is still useful as a starting point in person centered / Rogerian therapy, thanks for taking the time to make it and post!
Great Video guys! What is with all these judgemental comments? PCT is lost on people. LISTEN to the video! and you might learn not to be so distracted by irrelevant details. Jeeez
It would have been nice to see the participants more relaxed, rather than just reading a script. There is very little emotion being displayed...this distracts from the techniques that are trying to be modeled.
It is actually impossible to demonstrate person centered therapy in a roleplay. The content has to be real so the empathy can be real. Congruence and genuineness are so important.
That's nice and clear. Many thanks for making this video. I'm just starting my journey as a Hypnotherapist and studying Rogerian therapy is part of that.
This is not person centred therapy, the therapist did not pick up on any feelings instead she introduced new feelings, it was therapist lead not client centered.
the therapist showed good empathy but would a Rogerian therapist say ...." and if his love for you is based on a picture whats the good of that?" surely this is leading the client ........obviously they have written the script and the therapist in some of this video is quoting directly from Carl Rogers in the Gloria videos...........thanks for making the video though good to watch as a learning tool.
This role-play does not go enough to demonstrate the value of person-centered therapy. It is devoid of emotion and authenticity. I would have rather preferred it unscripted.
Never !! It will be too directive according to the experts. Perhaps CBT could do that or Gestalt . Hence i personally detest personcentrd just too limited and one dimensional
i dont think the girl should have been reading a script. Why was she reading? i would have liked more of a genuine approach to explaining her feelings.
This is a role play to demonstrate the techniques. It makes sense to have a script because the "client" is not really a client and you specifically want to highlight certain techniques. In a regular session, you might not get to all the techniques. Lots of times, it takes multiple session to just establish rapport with the client. This is just a simply 8 minute video designed to summarize and show the main strategies
The therapy and the video was very helpful; but the notes weren't necessary. I think you need to diagnose the girl in pink with amnesia because she couldn't remember why she went to therapy. She had to write everything down as a reference. I understand notes, but that's literally her life on paper. Oh and also, I'm no doctor, but looking at her feet, she might want to get her right foot checked out before it bends into another dimension.
The video shows precisely what it announces: a technique. And what comes is just as automated and cold as is a technique to be expected. I can find no relation to Rogers since he was trembling of warm empathy.
I watched the video as emailed to me by one of my students and after searching for it again, can see that it was never intended to be any other than a demonstration of skills. Having said that, l believe it would have value as a classroom resource, not because it is a good and realistic example of person centred counselling, but because it is a highly flawed example and at best, because questions are asked when reflective responses should have been given, an example of an integrated model with person centred and cbt. Students need to consider this if using it to support their skills work assignments. The fast pace is misleading too, if you try to work with your client at the pace that is possible with a script you are soon going to tie yourself (and your client) in knots rather than create a therapeutic safe space. Remember that is a role play by someone who thinks the core conditions are strategies. You students know that's incorrect, don't you?
taraqueen58 I agree with you, absolutely. We did however take that quote "and if his love for you is based on a picture, what's the good of that?" directly from Rogers' interview with Gloria. Thank you for watching and for your feedback!!!
Empathy,...are NO techniques. By all means. They are a way of being with another human being, deeply trusting in (self)actualization. It is something that in my opinion cannot be tought as it was a technique. It simplyand only in its depth can be experienced. And then - hopefully - given further.
This is not person centered please can therapist and educators out there stop doing this. Let's clear this up, person centred counselling is not forced or a role play . It's about engaging at an existential level through the development of a therapeutic relationship. The natural process of empathy and the other conditions of therapy are established in a natraul way allowing the relationship to deepen. It's at the level of meeting each other that healing takes place. This is a deep meeting and one that is not forced or directed by any party. It's not a strategy or technique. Please before you demonstrate this approach understand it fully
This is not empathy - this is active listening mirroring parrot bullshit - rfom a scripted pair od plastic people - and so a very poor example of what we are talking about - Your own recent disclosure and the phoenix and Death Tarot Card is more closely aligned to what it should be and I am not as good as Dr B, who uses only this in his practice for the past more than 30 years - He is brilliant with it -
This comes across as a scripted student assignment role play rather than a real person centred interaction. Empathy, unconditional positive regard and congruence are attitudes not strategies.
Not an expert here, but felt that the "life coach" sound very "dry" (even that is a demonstration video)Not sure how this conversation would look for real. In my opinion, frustrated 16 yer old demands answers, which simply not going to get, however, for me there is not interaction, no bound, nothing the teenager can hold on to. Sorry. "I can't", " I wish" simply thrown in the air...didn't felt any empathy at all.
If she only has one leg, why fake that she has 2. The fake leg is the only problem in this role play, and it has chopped off my confidence. What else is fake...?
'And if his love for you is based on a picture, what is the good in that'? Umm, judgement/assumption/leading/dad not there and can't defend himself to that one! Oh dear, scripted piece of rubbish (sorry, judgement!)
@@grnidmnstr38 I am on my last qualification to be a counsellor and that is a leading statement and a personal opinion, whether Rogers said it or not. It would receive constructive criticism today. But yes, then obviously scripted (badly)
Yet again this quack is merely regurgitating what the customer has said to her. In what possible world is this therapeutic? Pseudoscience is too generous a term.
I respect the previous comment on this video; however, I also have great respect for the role play that is exemplified here. As a first year grad student studying Rogers and humanistic psychology, I profited greatly from watching this, albeit scripted, thorough and earnest example of actual Rogerian therapy. I learned a lot and thank you for helping me on my journey.
I know some people have commented on the lack of empathy and congruence. However, that is not something I feel you can learn from others, it is something you develop as you grow. I have no issues with that but I have found it immensely helpful to learn from the techniques shown here.
I don't care about anything in the video but about the good part. I could see very clear how the "person-centered" therapy was performed and I learned a lot from it. I could also see how a teenager client can be with a therapist, the questions they do, the way they act, and even the 'problem' example that is very similar to other adolescents' problems. I love it. I noticed the leg of the girl but I just ignored because I was looking to learn something, not to judge or criticize the video or the actors. Excellent example of the "person-centered therapy", thank you for sharing it.
I appreciated the example of the client being upset that they weren't getting a straight answer on how to "fix their problem" and that "why they are going to therapy"... This seems to me to be at the core of Rogerian philosophy - the client already has all of the answers. They might not feel that or even know it, or believe it! But when we provide the space for them to move all of their frustrations and disappointments then a clearer more congruent answer will come forward for them. Do I have this right?
I am just starting to do my Counselling training and found this immensely useful. I found the techniques I was looking for as early examples. Yes it was devoid of emotion but that allowed me to look for the basic skills as outlined and knowing I would bring my own to the table almost like a blank canvas. Thanks
Aggghhh! PCT is not taught via role-play, but by 'real-play' and the development of confident authenticity/congruence in encounter groups. It is about being genuine, and working with attitudes, not 'strategies'(!). The goal is not to help the client 'achieve self-actualisation', because she is always actualising. These points are subtle, but really important.
well said...this is what actualizing tendency and she is "becoming" her own fully functioning person
I feel what you are saying. When they said in the beginning about looking for empathy, congruence and unconditional positive regard as a "strategy" make it seem like a therapist uses it as a means to an end. Which takes the empathy portion out of it, and is keening in on anticipating a certain response rather than being in, with, and for a client's experience of subjective exploration.
Plus, I saw the Gloria tapes about five times, and I was kind of cringing when the role-playing therapist copied quotes from Rogers in that session. It seemed a bit forced... This contradicts the environment Person-Centered therapy is attempting to construct within a session.
Role-Playing takes the authenticity of a situation and emotions out of an experience, because the experience may not be real. This is why I agree with you when you say that Person-Centered therapy is not taught via role play. Empathy is not a strategy, it is a process of being with another person.
Yes. Thank you for pointing that out.
Thank you for saying this
Thanks for this example. I especially appreciate you took the time at the beginning to highlight the core conditions of the approach- I would love to be counselled by you in real life lol.
Thank you for this model situation. The demonstration shows me what is the role of the therapist.
Therapist did a great job in the role play, the client, very questionable. Great summary at the beginning!
I have to do a role play tomorrow for class. thank you for making this video to have a better understanding.
There are quite a few closed questions and body language is not being mirrored but it is still useful as a starting point in person centered / Rogerian therapy, thanks for taking the time to make it and post!
Im glad i came across your channel,im a psychology student and this is really helpful for me
Thank you. I like the subtitles to pay attention to approaches used.
Yes I thought this was a good device to use.
Great Video guys! What is with all these judgemental comments? PCT is lost on people. LISTEN to the video! and you might learn not to be so distracted by irrelevant details. Jeeez
Excellent!! Job on the therapist
It would have been nice to see the participants more relaxed, rather than just reading a script. There is very little emotion being displayed...this distracts from the techniques that are trying to be modeled.
I am here thinking the same thing. It does not feel genuine
It is actually impossible to demonstrate person centered therapy in a roleplay. The content has to be real so the empathy can be real. Congruence and genuineness are so important.
That's nice and clear. Many thanks for making this video. I'm just starting my journey as a Hypnotherapist and studying Rogerian therapy is part of that.
The therapist's body language is really good.
This is not person centred therapy, the therapist did not pick up on any feelings instead she introduced new feelings, it was therapist lead not client centered.
2:17 starts directing and suggesting words for her :( ASK about feelings, don't assume.
"It's an awfully risky thing to live" also quote from Rogers :-)
Thank you, I find it very useful, reflections, summarising and everything else. :)
the therapist showed good empathy but would a Rogerian therapist say ...." and if his love for you is based on a picture whats the good of that?" surely this is leading the client ........obviously they have written the script and the therapist in some of this video is quoting directly from Carl Rogers in the Gloria videos...........thanks for making the video though good to watch as a learning tool.
This role-play does not go enough to demonstrate the value of person-centered therapy. It is devoid of emotion and authenticity. I would have rather preferred it unscripted.
I would struggle with this type therapist. There were no answers. Alot of affirmation of clients feelings. Is this why people go to therapy for years?
Ikr. Like i can get this kind of therapy from my empathetic friend too 💀
What's going on with this girls leg?
+Joe Farouk Nothing. Its just the way she has her foot, putting all the pressure on her toes.
Lol
uncomfortable to watch.
lol!
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Loved this...thank you for making it...
What about exploring the possibility of the client talking to the father!! Is that an option in PCT???
Never !! It will be too directive according to the experts. Perhaps CBT could do that or Gestalt . Hence i personally detest personcentrd just too limited and one dimensional
This is very informative, thank you so much for posting! The comments seem so harsh. I hope you keep doing your good work!
Is the girl in the pink top a ballerina??
I see what you did there. LOL
Reading a script?! C'mon!!!
Therapy role play isn't easy when you have to hit specific points and display specific techniques.
i dont think the girl should have been reading a script. Why was she reading? i would have liked more of a genuine approach to explaining her feelings.
This is a role play to demonstrate the techniques. It makes sense to have a script because the "client" is not really a client and you specifically want to highlight certain techniques. In a regular session, you might not get to all the techniques. Lots of times, it takes multiple session to just establish rapport with the client. This is just a simply 8 minute video designed to summarize and show the main strategies
Anthony, you are quite right. The role-play appears to be mechnical with participants reading from the script.
And to see the one play the counselor actually come up with her own responses to the client.
The therapy and the video was very helpful; but the notes weren't necessary. I think you need to diagnose the girl in pink with amnesia because she couldn't remember why she went to therapy. She had to write everything down as a reference. I understand notes, but that's literally her life on paper. Oh and also, I'm no doctor, but looking at her feet, she might want to get her right foot checked out before it bends into another dimension.
lmao
🤣🤣🤣 best comment here
Bro it's a demo session.
The video shows precisely what it announces: a technique.
And what comes is just as automated and cold as is a technique to be expected. I can find no relation to Rogers since he was trembling of warm empathy.
This explains why I don’t like thearpy, if you are a client definitely research modalities that are more for your personality and needs
Whats with her right foot ? :P
I watched the video as emailed to me by one of my students and after searching for it again, can see that it was never intended to be any other than a demonstration of skills. Having said that, l believe it would have value as a classroom resource, not because it is a good and realistic example of person centred counselling, but because it is a highly flawed example and at best, because questions are asked when reflective responses should have been given, an example of an integrated model with person centred and cbt. Students need to consider this if using it to support their skills work assignments. The fast pace is misleading too, if you try to work with your client at the pace that is possible with a script you are soon going to tie yourself (and your client) in knots rather than create a therapeutic safe space. Remember that is a role play by someone who thinks the core conditions are strategies. You students know that's incorrect, don't you?
taraqueen58 I agree with you, absolutely. We did however take that quote "and if his love for you is based on a picture, what's the good of that?" directly from Rogers' interview with Gloria. Thank you for watching and for your feedback!!!
Didn't really care for this role-play. I really like the theory of person centered and the influence that it can make on the client.
😮 the client's leg bended like that gives me anxiety 😅
reading from the scrips ..so unreal...hard to focus on therapy knowing its just reading off paper
i feel the same as the girl! not like i dont want a good life for myself but i want it for me, not for him. expectations are such a burden
Theres no building rapport?
Hah! wish I could give 'dad' some really directive counselling!
Empathy,...are NO techniques. By all means. They are a way of being with another human being, deeply trusting in (self)actualization.
It is something that in my opinion cannot be tought as it was a technique. It simplyand only in its depth can be experienced. And then - hopefully - given further.
Not natural flow, client reading off a prepared script. Looks very staged, stiff in role play for both individuals
Thanks
Very wooden. Not a great demonstration of PC therapy. Also it doesn't seem to go anywhere, they seem to be going around in circles.
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This is not person centered please can therapist and educators out there stop doing this. Let's clear this up, person centred counselling is not forced or a role play . It's about engaging at an existential level through the development of a therapeutic relationship. The natural process of empathy and the other conditions of therapy are established in a natraul way allowing the relationship to deepen. It's at the level of meeting each other that healing takes place. This is a deep meeting and one that is not forced or directed by any party. It's not a strategy or technique. Please before you demonstrate this approach understand it fully
Excellent
Start to let her know how her future can be by listening to an older head. This would absolutely bore me.
Her foot
This is not empathy - this is active listening mirroring parrot bullshit - rfom a scripted pair od plastic people - and so a very poor example of what we are talking about - Your own recent disclosure and the phoenix and Death Tarot Card is more closely aligned to what it should be and I am not as good as Dr B, who uses only this in his practice for the past more than 30 years - He is brilliant with it -
This comes across as a scripted student assignment role play rather than a real person centred interaction. Empathy, unconditional positive regard and congruence are attitudes not strategies.
Not an expert here, but felt that the "life coach" sound very "dry" (even that is a demonstration video)Not sure how this conversation would look for real. In my opinion, frustrated 16 yer old demands answers, which simply not going to get, however, for me there is not interaction, no bound, nothing the teenager can hold on to. Sorry. "I can't", " I wish" simply thrown in the air...didn't felt any empathy at all.
If she only has one leg, why fake that she has 2. The fake leg is the only problem in this role play, and it has chopped off my confidence. What else is fake...?
This is a terrible example.
Sommer Obrien why
'And if his love for you is based on a picture, what is the good in that'? Umm, judgement/assumption/leading/dad not there and can't defend himself to that one! Oh dear, scripted piece of rubbish (sorry, judgement!)
That was a direct quote from Rogers himself in the interview with Gloria video. Maybe you should take it up with him. SMH
@@grnidmnstr38 I am on my last qualification to be a counsellor and that is a leading statement and a personal opinion, whether Rogers said it or not. It would receive constructive criticism today. But yes, then obviously scripted (badly)
Actually I think there is more than one Rogers comment in there! And of course, it isn't the same context. Not very imaginative!
Don't like this demonstration. How could you imagine replying using these lines to a real teenage young girl?
Yet again this quack is merely regurgitating what the customer has said to her. In what possible world is this therapeutic? Pseudoscience is too generous a term.
Please please please, I mean this sincerely, don’t model person centered therapy after this. This is so against what the theory stands for.
Boring