Learn The Evolution of Gymnastics: Vault Development
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1. PLEASE, watch til the end, I know its a long video, but give me a chance lol
2. Im sorry for some grammar mistakes (not a native english speaker)
3. This is to ilustrate how much this sport evolve in this more than six decades. I hope you like it.
where are you from ?
can't Believe I spelled "wich" instead of which lol. I finished this video at midnight, so I was really tired and sleepy.
Artistics Gymnastics do you do gymnastics
love it. thank you so much for taking the time:)
Artistics Gymnastics it's awesome and on point! Great job
I cannot understand why Produnova's (herself) landings were so perfect, but nowadays nobody has nive landings like hers
Karina Nunes it seems to be that the actual vault is bigger, therefore harder to achieve. I’m not sure, but ever since it has gotten bigger, the move has been harder to achieve and that might be the reason.
she just got more power than anyone else did really... that's what it comes down to... and she could take the really hard landing and stand it up
Look at Produnova’s run and block off the horse in comparison... She has better technique off the board, and block during pre-flight huge block and her rotation in the flight is so, so much faster.
The horse versus table: no, the table gives you way better and safer blocks than the old horse ever did. It should be, and in men’s gymnastics IS way easier to turn over a hand double on the table versus the old horse. It boils down to technique and power
She is one of the greatest front blockers/tumblers of all time. We don't see a lot of them nowadays. I can't even recognize someone as good in all fronts as Produnova that is still competing. Daiane Dos Santos also had great fronts
Because it ia a deadly vault. Not many wants to risk it.
Nobody can proform Produnova like Produnova. Great video though!
Notice how over time it goes from only white women being gymnasts to women of a bunch of different backgrounds and ethnicities
I know and it's beautiful
Everything starts somewhere
Based on this timeline, my vaulting abilities would fall somewhere around 1750!
ppl keep saying that the gymnasts who try the produnova nowadays cant do it without having to cowboy it but im pretty sure even produnova herself did that also
I wonder if Simone Biles can do that vault.
@@janetslater129 Simone stated before the Rio Olympics that she will never attempt the Produnova vault, because she's "not trying to die."
It’s also just a very dangerous vault and they’re all trying to live.
@@e2theeyepie she's smart!
No one EVER has had more influence on vault than Ms. Yurchenko- she completely revolutionized vault and introduced a whole world of possibilities.
Produnova is too much more than they can handle, always accompanied with huge leg separation or deep landing. No one who competed this vault was actually able to hit consistently, more like trying their luck. There should be speculative deduction.
Btw almost all Chengs after Cheng hurt my eyes.
trabea 42 Simone biles does it perfectly
Simone's Cheng is flawless
Reading these replies is cool cuz now simone does a cheng with half twist aka the biles
Mckayla Skinner's isn't that bad, sure Cheng herself does it better than anyone, but it's pretty descent
@@arathgomez615 Can biles do a proudnova?
It's just my theory, but I think the reason why no one can succed with the Produnova nowadays is the change of the vaulting table. It seems to me the block there for front vaults was bigger.
It's the opposite actually, blocking is much harder on the horse than the tongue since you have to be much more precise with hand placements.
There’s no theory. It’s a very dangerous vault. She was good at it because it was her skill and she worked on it to be a vault in her name and over time, it looked easy for her because it was. Now, people who attempt it even working on it for years are over thinking because there’s so many injuries that can come from that vault alone and they’re trying to not die and land. That’s why. There’s no other reason.
No. The new horse makes vaulting easier. She was just an exceptional gymnast.
Yes, but what about the men that do it?
The only thing other than her being exceptionally powerful and fast is that with the out of 10 scoring system, deductions for form weren't as harsh, and tucks were often "cowboyed", allowing faster rotations. But all in all she was just POWERFUL!
When they changed the vault, it changed the sport. Notice not many high level gymnasts were able to learn the new table and keep going. It did seem to create a new generation of gymnasts who weren’t too engrained in there old skills. 🥳
The old vault horse HAD to go, it was just too dangerous. There was very little room for even being slightly off, and several devastating injuries had resulted. The new table is much safer. The best can adapt to any situation. If not… then they aren’t the best anymore.
The vault always impresses me because it has to take guts to go for it, to even try it. And how do they know just when to do their roundoff or handspring so they will hit the trampoline just right? It's probably one of the more dangerous elements but the vault is always impressive.
Can you do elements named after the wrong gymnast or the not-named elements?
I am not a gymnast or know that much about vault, but those early day, the springboard looks so much further away from the horse than now (I realize it's not a horse apparatus anyone). All I could think was no wonder there were so many injuries.
0:48 Holy that does not look like a 1970's quality video. It looks like something from probably 2005 omg
Omg I was waiting for this! Amazing video as always! 👍
Proud to see Deepa karamakar 🇮🇳 doing the most hardest skill.
Proud to be Indian 😍❤️
Um, McKayla Maroney's 2012 team final vault?
Personally I think the Produnova (dunno how to spell it) should be downgraded to prevent girls from doing it and getting hurt because there's no point if it has a low start value.
Mandy Lubinski it's super difficult though, so they put it very high score.
Isabella C plus, not a lot of people do it without being protected.
The best thing is to give harsh penalties for landing with feet and body(butt) together, which I think is in the code now anyway?
It was. A new Code of Points is put out each quadrennium. In the 2017-20 COP, its comparative advantage over the next-highest vault was lowered, and a specific rule was introduced to downgrade it to just a handspring tucked (really easy vault) if the behind and feet touch at the same time.
It should but that just goes against the reason for a code of points. Its high up there because it is the hardest vault and only those who can do it will try it. That's like lowering the Mo, Nabieva or Hristakieva because people could get injured doing them. Like people can hurt themselves on every single vault anyway. Also gymnastics these days is boring enough. Everyone is copy pasting routines on floor, bb and uneven bars and doing the same vaults as everyone else. Would be cool to see any Produnova (well executed or a complete flop) in the middle of a Amanar/Cheng/Chusovitina fiesta.
Isn’t the chusovitina also called the rudi or am I thinking of something else
Consider renaming the video to "Learn The Evolution Of Gymnastics: Women's Vault Development". Came here to also see some men's elements and was kinda disappointed...
And Oksana Chusovitina - everything jumps and jumps. And there is no limit to perfection!
Also, in this final decade we had the first attempt at a triple twist Yurchenko, back in 2012...
Why is the Cheng harder than the Amanar? I'm terrible at telling the difference--I just see that they both have roundoffs and laid out twists, but the Amanar has a full twist more.
Thank you for this incredible video!!!!!
The amanar is just a round-off onto the the vaulting table. While the Cheng is a round-off half on to the vaulting table.
Its like a chusovitina but with a round off and half on
The Cheng is harder because of the position your body is when you block off the table. It’s much harder to gain height, etc.
On most events, you clearly see 2 completely seperate things, like most changed. I am not sure what it is on vault... it changed pretty gradually
videoclip Yeah, you're right.
Biles & Maroney could get so much height off the vaulting table. I wonder if they ever tried the Prudunova. I've noticed a lot of gymnasts still get good scores even if they're sloppy... Aliya Mustafina comes to mind. Always has bent knees in vaults and on floor when twisting... maybe because she gets less height? I think she might be retired now. Not sure.
Simone was asked once about the Prudunova, she said something along the lines of, 'I'm not trying to die'
And now there’s the new Simone Biles vault 🥰
the one where she messes it up at the olympics?
@@sadiporter2966no the one that’s now called the Biles 2 on Vault. That’s the vault you mean.
beautiful, Bogi put artistic in artistic gymnastics, everything since and already in her time has been more technically difficult but lacked her grace and elegance. Biles for instance is a vastly superior gymnast technically but is she really a better artistic gymnast, her artistic bits are only there to fill time between tumbles. Gymnastics has not improved one bit artistically since Bogi's time, if anything it's gone backwards with opportunistic routines calculated for maximum point potential with minimum risk.
Go Dipa!! so awesome to see an India do the produvona vault. She narrowly missed bronze in Rio 2016 :(
Did the vault become a more dangerous apparatus after the Yurchenko was used, as opposed to just the handspring beforehand?
Maybe they should increase the height of the women's vaulting table to help them to get harder vaults
Marx 7811 The problem with that is that there are many smaller gymnasts who are not capable of making hat vault. There are different vault settings for us though, so the taller gymnasts do have a higher setting than the others.
@@jkrdyn See this brings me to an interesting question. And that is, in 1996 at the Olympics would a height adjustment for smaller, shorter gymnasts have been easier for them? It makes me wonder if that's one reason why Dominque Moceanu and Kerri Strug sat down on their vaults. Remember in 2000 at the Olympics in Sydney? They had that whole deal with the vault being too low. Taller gymnasts like Svetlana Khorkina totally crashed on the landing because it didn't give her enough leverage.
5:50 Chuso!
Please do evolution of beam it's one of my favs
Im confused on the fact that in the 70s they couldn't hold there balance after those easy ass vaults
It was like, probably the start of gymnastics, so yeah.
The technique was new, it took time to understand the physiology of them and develop it to maximum.
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I enjoy seeing the gymnastics history! Thank you for putting these together! My only question is where was Mary Lou Retton's vault from the 84 Olympics? She aced a vault that only men were doing at that time.
it's rare to see an amanar to be performed from an all arounders this day, I miss them✨
One must be a power vaulter to accomplish the Produnova. Her technique and blocking made it possible to land such a difficult vault.
Can you imagine if you were a MAG gymnast doing a Yurchenko full onto that😬😧
Hard to believe that the Amanar was considered rare at one point in time. Seems like that’s all anyone does these days.
Nah, just a handful of gymnasts perform the Amanar with Americans leading the way. The best gymnasts in the world still perform the double twist.
In the netherlands we stil call it the horse (translated: het paard).
I wish more would try the Poronova..
To me the Produnova is on a league of its own.
It’s impressive how the vault as we know it today didn’t appear until after 2000
How old are these gymnasts to refer to them as "girls"?
What about the phelps
As I've watched this series I've noticed that over the years the equipment has gotten taller
They forgot the biles vault
I clicked so fast!
i met the creator of "the chang" at my gym. her name is Chang fae
Whitleigh Hayes no shit
The Cheng - by Cheng Fei
This is a very interesting video!! Watching in 2021!! You should definitely add an updated one, Inclusion of the likes of the Biles (Cheng + 1/2 twist) since it was named after Simone Biles in 2018!!
How can this gets even better ??
Is there a reason why the men's vault is higher than the woman's?
Andrew Finlay They tend to be taller.
Isabella C Not only that, men tend to be stronger because of the way their bodies are built
Why are all the evolution videos you do always exactly 10:31 😂
Lannai G they love halloween 😭
Citius, altius, fortius and spinners.
Damn, doing the Yurchenko without the mat is so scary.
wow vault really advanced in the 80s! And gymnastics as a whole! i mean people still compete a double twisting yurchenko a lot
02:46 Pride olympics 🌈 🌈 🌈 🤣
Fairly Vague
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i love these kinds of videos
Words cannot express the AWE and admiration that I felt watching the beam "history". I almost DON'T like watching them, because of the injury/death factor. I smashed my head and hand on beam, as a 15 year old, and I KNOW the danger and risk involved.
It's funny to look back in time and see what girls were doing then...but innovation is always NOW. Remember that!!!
I think it's the gymnasts of the 50s and 60s that are the best gymnasts. They had families to care for, and other things.
Very good video 😍 I would have liked to see the attept of the TTY (triple twisting yurchenko (?)) in the OG, but since it wasnt compleated and you cant put everything on hear, I understand... Amazing video though 😍😍😍
I know that this was made in 2017, but they should have waited because the Yeo vault entered the gymnastics world
Makayla and Simone❤️❤️
“PURRIOD’T.”
Didn't they all back off on using the Yurchenko because it was so dangerous?
Here’s a fact the vault table was just a pommel horse until they changed it in the 2000s
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what is it called when you do a fhs where a roundoff is in a yurchenko?
I don't know if this was just lucky clips, or women stuck the landings more often then they do now????
Well nowadays they're all trying over-the-top, difficult vaults so not sticking landings is to be expected compared to back in the days.
Next step, yurchenko triple twist :) ...
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why not walk around the obstacle?
Love this video. Thank you so much
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Early vaults be like: jump - land
Erm is the vault table higher in the 80s or 90s?
almost everything is done in a layout now huh
I think the Produnova salto is triple tuck not double.Because when the 70's I count the flip is 2.
The rotation count starts after the block (as you leave the vaulting table). You could think of it as 2.5 rotations because you leave the table upside-down, however it is officially 2 rotations.
When I tell my grandparents about gymnastics they ask ‘do you do rings or horse’ and I’m like that’s boys gymnastics! Because they’re so used to the old gymnastics
Womens and mens gymnastics were probably already both around when your grandparents were young though
How did we even live before HDTV?
Yassss have been waiting for vault
I cant tell, they r all twists ._.
195019601970 was best lol
I'm just trying to help so no hate please.
The spelling should be which not wich
yes yes, this one was really a lack of attention, I was really sleepy when I did it. I always use which. But thanx by the way
I wanna see triple
The one at 1:18 is just a suke. just a nickname
It's Tsuk, short for Tsukahara, not a suke lol
Biles?
Love the videos 😍
are you from Romania ?
My native language is portuguese
9:53, what’s the highest?
The Produnova vault.
great vid, thank you for the Work! Could you one with the evolution of the gymnast's bodies ? i think it would be pretty interesting
Nene Heulin - it would also be a bit weird ahah
No, the body type of a gymnasthad change radically over the decade and have been a mater of discussion since Always. At first gymnast were women with low muscle , then little girl and now young woman very muscular. Just look at the comment under a video of today gymnastic , 1/3 would be like: they are not girls they look like men and so. 40 years ago people were talking about women gymnastic which became little girl gymnastic. The bodytime of a gymnast had always been discuss sometimes more than the performance
I think it also depends on the country. China admits to purposefully selecting little girl bodies to this day, even by Chinese standards. US and GB tend to favor power gymnasts. Russia tends to have more artistic, middle-toned gymnasts. Less dominant countries I don't think have had vast enough of a pool of potential to get too selective. So even though the sport itself leans toward power right now, each country still has some preference on style and body type. Looking at this through the decade would be interesting. Leo styles too.
Nene Heulin
Strange to judge a gymnast by how their body sets muscles
I have actually never seen a comment saying that the women looks like the men in gymnastics, but I don't doubt the fact that they are there, just not 1/3.
The main discussion in gymnastics today is whether there is (enough) artistry
Artistry is different from person to person and so is their body.
Gymnastics today requires big skills, big skills takes a lot of strength, strength = muscles
It seems like we are back to the "how a girl should look"-talk
Maybe this a topic that would be "fun" to discuss, but it would be weird making a video about it.
Especially during the Olympics, it was a wide-spread news/social media hype. Sometimes it's just the pure muscle more apparent in a still photo in a mainstream article like NBC's site, but there was also a beach photo of Aly, Maddie, and Simone in bikinis showing their six-packs that was viral and heavily criticized for the girls actually being men. "Only men can get abs" type criticism. It was ridiculous. I don't think those people watched gymnastics, they just came across the articles and photo elsewhere.
The music for 80s and 90s make the video quality scary
2:47
The vault now is so simplistic to those in the past
Since this video was produced, we have the "Biles" with a 6.4 D score I think.
I wish I had a time machine. It would be amazing to send one of these girls back to 1950 just for one vault. :)
Agree. Or on the floor exercise as well. Those two have the most drastic differences. Their reactions would be insane.
Today's gymnast on any apparatus in the 1950s would be insane! Same withfigure skating. The axel was itself a new feat, while today girls regularly do triple triple and even quad jumps.
@David its because... the floor and the vault also improved for less accidents.. floor became springy and vault did have more safety measures...
I guess this video was made before Simone Biles landed the double pike Yurchenko.
And Knie we have Biles l and hopefully soon the Biles ll on vault
To be honest, the person who actually changed vaulting for women the most was undoubtedly Cheng Fei- LEGEND!
Edit: what the actual fuck. A video on vaulting and Cheng Fei, the best vaulter of all time is not in it? She has three consecutive world vault titles to her name! More than any other gymnast!
You don't have to remind us what the skill is over and over again.