022 We build a Global LoRa Mesh Network (MeshCom, Meshtastic)

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  • LoRa devices have a long range and are small and cheap. Ideal for experimenting and maybe even more. Today we will build devices that create mesh networks on 70cm and, through a gateway and the internet or Hamnet, can transfer messages to meshes far away. Or to APRS. Or to e-mail. Ideal for clubs or emergencies!
    Links:
    Always check that you order the version for the desired frequency
    T-Beam: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DEk... or amzn.to/3f0plu4
    LoRa V2 Board: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DDs...
    MeshCom Project: wiki.oevsv.at/wiki/MeshCom
    Meshtastic Project: meshtastic.org/
    MeshCom Firmware: www.dropbox.com/sh/kqkac0vyra...
    MeshCom Dashboard: srv08.oevsv.at/mqtt/#
    3D-Files: www.thingiverse.com/thing:331...
    LoRa introduction: • #112 LoRa / LoRaWAN De...
    meshtastic --port COM21 --set-owner HB9BLA-GW --set region EU433 --ch-index 0 --ch-set psk none --pos-fields POS_BATTERY POS_ALTITUDE POS_ALT_MSL --set is_always_powered true
    meshtastic --port COM21 --set wifi_ap_mode false --set wifi_ssid p*** --set wifi_password D***** --set mqtt_server 89.185.97.38 --ch-index 0 --ch-set uplink_enabled true --ch-index 0 --ch-set downlink_enabled true --ch-index 0 --ch-set psk none --set is_always_powered true --setalt 350 --setlat 47.123 --setlon 7.123 --pos-fields POS_BATTERY POS_ALTITUDE POS_ALT_MSL
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  • @tombouie
    @tombouie 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thks & I can't wait for LoRa satellite relays

  • @mcconkeyb
    @mcconkeyb ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Great video! Every time I watch 1 of your videos my backlog of projects increases. 😃

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you!

  • @PortableRadio
    @PortableRadio ปีที่แล้ว

    Andreas, many thanks for the interesting video! Perfect project for Winter 🥶, before running up the hills again 😉

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว

      And in spring you can place one on the highest hill ;-)

  • @FranciscoManuelMartinDelfa
    @FranciscoManuelMartinDelfa ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as always!! Congratulations👏👏👏

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!

  • @johnwest7993
    @johnwest7993 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video. Just what I was looking for.

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @marcschweiz
    @marcschweiz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I plan to also have my own gateway. Seems like a great project!

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Indeed!

  • @m7trsradio
    @m7trsradio 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video. Happy Christmas and new year.
    I am just getting started with meshtastic going to buy one maybe two heltec v3 boards and see what i can come up with.
    Thank you for the info.
    73😊

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I hope you are QRV already...

  • @jmr
    @jmr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is a VERY interesting project! Also very interesting it uses MQTT. With that I could connect it to many other projects.

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed, this is simple and standardized.

  • @turboprint3d
    @turboprint3d ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'm slowly makeing up a mesh network for off grid communication for my friends and family , and just for fun .

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You are probably not the only person doing that in these tough times ;-)

    • @turboprint3d
      @turboprint3d ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@HB9BLA ya gotta buy the devices up before we cant get cheap stuff from china anymore

  • @PhG1961
    @PhG1961 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome and informative !

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!

  • @scienceoftheuniverse9155
    @scienceoftheuniverse9155 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow I am more than happy. Thank you so much indeed. I am so eager to test the platform but unfortunately I low on budget maybe sometimes.

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As said: The project is in its initial stage. So no hurry...

  • @IndependentNewsMedia
    @IndependentNewsMedia 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very interesting video, combining Amateur Radio and Meshtastic.

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @toastrecon
    @toastrecon ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Maybe you should sell "Strange Swiss Distortion" t-shirts! So cool. I think I already have some of the hardware. It might be a winter project for me.

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Good idea! Maybe I will find a designer for the creation

    • @magikben
      @magikben ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Of course it will need to come in neutral colors ;-)

    • @doejohn8674
      @doejohn8674 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HB9BLA I will also buy one, it needs a Swiss flag somehow of course 😉

    • @johnbuchman4854
      @johnbuchman4854 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@HB9BLAStrange Swiss Signal Modulation

    • @jmr
      @jmr ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That invokes a certain image in my head. I picture a grey shirt with a waterfall.

  • @charlesmarseille123
    @charlesmarseille123 ปีที่แล้ว

    love that second channel, keep it up!

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! Will do!

    • @mihaioprea700
      @mihaioprea700 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi. Does the second channel show up in the phone app if you activate it from CLI commands? Currently I cannot send messages to anyone else than the primary channel or the users directly. Thanks.

    • @charlesmarseille123
      @charlesmarseille123 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mihaioprea700 it should. Be sure all nodes are on the same firmware version and your config is valid. Come ask questions in the discord #help if you don't get it working.

  • @doranku
    @doranku ปีที่แล้ว

    Still haven't put in the effort for a license, but projects like these might finally do it for me.

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว

      Go for it! And report back your call sign...

  • @PeppeSorkII
    @PeppeSorkII ปีที่แล้ว

    You r just amazing !! I wish i had your skills in programming, but I'm in progress. I have 5 tbeam to play with on this isla, so I guess I will watch this video many times to get things to work. Best 73 SM6LNJ Peter

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว

      Have fun! This project fortunately does not need a lot of programming. Most is configuration and uploading.

  • @Driekes10
    @Driekes10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice project. We run a Meshtastic network locally with a mqtt broker. This is more or less the same but with a further 'range', so let's try!

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว

      Cool. I think you are on the right way.

  • @nickmad887
    @nickmad887 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you.

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're welcome!

  • @frollard
    @frollard ปีที่แล้ว

    Welcome back!

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว

      :-)

  • @Tvill
    @Tvill ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks!

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your support of the channel!

  • @RealSnail3D
    @RealSnail3D ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว

      :-)

  • @DesertJeff
    @DesertJeff ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have had a solar power mesh up for 9.5 months now. Solar powered. Would love to get this connected to a world wide mesh.

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Should be possible now...

  • @MrPizzapeter
    @MrPizzapeter ปีที่แล้ว

    Danke!

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว

      Gern geschehen!

  • @HEITORmrsmith
    @HEITORmrsmith ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video, I'm working to start a network in Montclair NJ - USA with my ham club and I'm getting an error message when I try to communicate with the module to send the communication lines, it's similar to the error when the ESPHome... ends in:
    Exception: Timed out waiting for connection completion
    BUT the ESP is closed. Not sure what else can be "blocking" the serial. meshtastic -h works but any other command related to the port such as meshtastic --port PORT returns an error.
    Do you know what should I do?

    • @HEITORmrsmith
      @HEITORmrsmith ปีที่แล้ว

      Solved... I downgraded the meshtastic to match my firmware and it works perfectly fine. KD2WWU first node in America to participate! 73

  • @donovannewton9507
    @donovannewton9507 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a case where I’d like to make between 2 to 10 Nodes used as Repeaters that talk to each other, but call also be used to allow Meshtastic as well.
    I’m trying to understand if one Node can do more than one thing?
    As an example, I need all Nodes to have a display clock/timer and 2 push buttons like a Chess clock timer that switches between the 2 push buttons, Red and Blue. Each timer is is reset at the start from a master control, but each of the push buttons and their calculated time would be independant

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A repeater is a node with a good location. It has the same function as all others. This network is a "mesh" where everybody is connected with everybody in range.
      Keep in mind that this is far from a "real time" system, because its speed is slow.

  • @user-jt5vm3mi1w
    @user-jt5vm3mi1w ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Everyone get one in every town and city and lets make some mesh we can send 'hi' on

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good idea!

  • @cm9748
    @cm9748 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    how do you load the drivers for the Heltec v2 board ? My pc wont recognize the boards.

  • @fire17102
    @fire17102 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why did the mqtt fail ?
    Great knowledge all around , much thanks cool guy

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว

      I do not know. But this service still is experimental and not well documented.

  • @MickeyMishra
    @MickeyMishra ปีที่แล้ว

    You know this is actually really cool if you could solar power about 50 of these. Real question? How do these fair in the field? Do they often go dead while in use like the average router, thus needing to be reset manually every other week after some time in operation?
    I have yet to see a consumer or hobby grade router or a Modem from and ISP not have random issues that require a physical power cycle to be able to log into it. How are these for long term use?
    If these are really good for Mesh networks? Then with placement being in places hard to get to if using solar or wind power or a combination of each? They would have to at least have a good amount of Uptime before they wig out. Do they?

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      AFAIK they are used as solar powered repeaters on hill-tops. But I have no experience with stability.

  • @DiegoSilva-dv9uf
    @DiegoSilva-dv9uf ปีที่แล้ว

    Valeu!

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your support!

  • @markarca6360
    @markarca6360 ปีที่แล้ว

    To be honest, the 825 MHz and the 925 MHz frequencies are LICENSED to mobile providers here in my country. This the reality here in the Philippines, until Mikrotik unveiled their products based on 2.4 GHz LoRA (the same ISM frequency Wi-Fi uses).

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In your country, 433 should be ISM. Meshtastic also works on 433.

  • @VincentFischer
    @VincentFischer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would a mail gateway open the doors for spammers? Sorry for instantly seeing the bad things, it's ofcourse an awesome undertaking

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am not sure how they do it. On Winlink there is a whitelist. Only mails from addresses which got mails from Winlink are forwarded. So you have to send a mail from MeschCom to receive mails from a particular address. But I do not know if this is implemented.

  • @procast
    @procast 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you have the device name, model number or more details regarding the 1 watt Lora board?
    I can't seem to find a plug and flash board like the T-Beam in the market and most of them are selling only the bare module. I'm a HAM operator and would like to setup a higher power repeater node.

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  หลายเดือนก่อน

      E22-400M30S should be one.

  • @internetSpider808
    @internetSpider808 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its an overdub! If you look at the screen you can see he is not speaking. 3:18

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It is a robot speaking ;-)

  • @jacquesredmond1332
    @jacquesredmond1332 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are you going to produce a video showing how to set up a gateway? I'm in the US, and with a HAM license I can transmit up to 10 watts.

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Meshcom project changed considerably and they use APRS now. I did not check the new one out yet.
      10W is most probably not helping a lot compared with the hassle to produce it because LoRa has a very high Link Budget and therefore does not need a lot of power like FSK.

  • @EvoErik2
    @EvoErik2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do you remove the cap from the black antenna? I want to use the same case as you...

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      With a heat gun.

  • @ON3MVH
    @ON3MVH ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello guy with the swiss accent, do you have by change knowledge of somebody using a lorawan gateway´s 9th channel (backhaul) for meshtastic...?
    Could it be possible?
    73

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว

      I never heard about that.

  • @kickthejetengine
    @kickthejetengine ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to build a local network of Arduino devices that control some lights. Almost like Philips Hue but over longer distances. Could a local LoRa mesh work for this? What is the easiest way to code this? I don’t think I need LoRaWAN or TTN. But I’m still looking for a well supported mesh library. The range doesn’t need to be more that 5km wide across the whole mesh. I do think I would want the messages to be encrypted so nobody can mess with it. I’m not sure what my approach should be. Radiohead maybe?

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว

      I once showed "Farm Data Relay System" on my main channel. It is no mesh, but maybe fits your needs.

  • @ptealdi
    @ptealdi ปีที่แล้ว

    At 7:50 in the video you say: "Do not install Meshtastic firmware because MeshCom binary has some presets". I have a Lilygo board with Meshtastic already installed. Do you have any tips for installing MeshCom in this particular situation? Thanks.

    • @JohnBaxendale
      @JohnBaxendale ปีที่แล้ว

      There's an option with ESPTool to "erase memory before flashing" or similar, that should do the trick!

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just saw the comment and hope, you were successful. I suggest the same as John.

    • @JohnBaxendale
      @JohnBaxendale ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HB9BLA I’ve since learned there’s also a firmware erase flash file that I was sent by someone on the Discord group, maybe also worth using.

  • @lolerskates876
    @lolerskates876 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can this LoRa mesh network connect to a Farm Data Relay System at the Gateway?

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว

      No. They are different

  • @ssupertutorial
    @ssupertutorial ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Since Lora is in the ism band and not in ham frequency are crypted transmissions legal?

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can choose if you use ISM or 70cm. If you use 70cm you should not encrypt. But you have no limitations on duty cycles and are legal with your build.

  • @EelcodeGraaff
    @EelcodeGraaff ปีที่แล้ว

    I am starting up to Meshtastic with my Liligo board, i want to set up an gateway, could someone help me a bit to get this realised?

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว

      Best is to find someone with Arduino knowledge.

  • @chuxxsss
    @chuxxsss ปีที่แล้ว

    Morning Andreas, to wet here for detecting.

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Here it is sunny again. Lots of energy from the roof...

  • @soniclux
    @soniclux ปีที่แล้ว +2

    whats that mqtt server? is this something official?

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is operated by an Austrian HAM operator

  • @MZXD
    @MZXD ปีที่แล้ว

    soo just like ttn?

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว

      Not at all. TTN is a hub and spoke network.

  • @chanplaypool5703
    @chanplaypool5703 ปีที่แล้ว

    Drop these cheap modules everywhere using drones. Power them using small wind turbines and solar panels.

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว

      :-)

  • @tenminutetokyo2643
    @tenminutetokyo2643 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you really sure you want to do that?

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว

      We already did it ;-)

  • @mlentsch
    @mlentsch 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Please don't add your personal "photo" to the thumbnail - nobody want's to watch when they see that.

  • @aquahood
    @aquahood 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Andreas can you directionally hiy my Lora Helium HotSpot. Aim at 3053 center of time - Amature Iris Cricket - I went to the Arden presntation given buy the guy from Solotorn. I said a nice long range homemade wifi "gun" spacing copper discs cut from copper sheet. It was a yagi for all purpose but was a very cheap.

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I do not like tha Helium network :-(

    • @aquahood
      @aquahood 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think your right. Feels like a pyramid scheme.

  • @suddegubben
    @suddegubben ปีที่แล้ว

    I admire youre energy and so spotless easy to understad videos 👍👍👍 vy best 73s de Sm4xrt ( and for sure I Will buy a t-shirt of The swiss distortion 🤣)

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome, thank you! We will see...

  • @DanielHofer
    @DanielHofer ปีที่แล้ว

    Realized, that my gateway is on your video on the dashboard :-) Actually, I try to get some none-licensed friends up and running with Meshtastic. 73 de Daniel, OE2DHH

    • @HB9BLA
      @HB9BLA  ปีที่แล้ว

      Cool! I hope the V2.0 will be stable.

    • @DanielHofer
      @DanielHofer ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HB9BLA We are Testing V2.0 with Meshtastic at the moment to support the not licensed community of friends and family. In Salzburg are no others using Meshtastic, so we have to make it more public. This version gives a big improvement of useability. After that, we are looking forward to the next meshcom firmware. 73