Where was he getting his income? Was he selling these pictures? This is such a sad case. Madeline never had a chance. Mother needs to be held accountable also.
35,000 pics - I have over 11,000 on my iPhone over the last 3 -4 years and I think I take a lot of pictures. So 35,000 of “illegal” content is unbelievable. And to have those organized into folders and so on, sick. No wonder he couldn’t have a job / this was his full time work. So sad for Madeline.
I used to pick kids up from multiple schools for an after school program and If u are first in line or not, the cars behind you can go around. They are set up in a way that the cars behind can leave if their kid is retrieved before the cars in front. Her excuse as to why she left the line is absolutely BS! Anyone who picks up their kids knows this. Parents are instructed to stay in their car if they are in line, but they don’t have to leave the line before their kid comes out. That’s ridiculous. The Mother needs to be arrested immediately. Where is common sense?
Shout out to those amazing investigators and police who caught onto him right away and did the very best to ensure justice for this beautiful lil girl who deserved do much better than she ever got😢
I appreciate all the work Chris and Karen do to highlight and teach us. I hope the mom is held accountable, just like SS. They both make me sick to my stomach. Poor child had no one to protect her. May justice be served.
During the police interview on the night of Maddie’s disappearance, Jennifer and Stephan disagreed on the color of shorts/pants she was wearing when last seen. Jenn said black shorts and Stephan said blue. Police went with black shorts because Jenn insisted. But now we know that Stephan was correct after all, probably because he was the last one who saw Maddie day of her death.
I think they found Maddie in jeans, but the clown said "blue pants" if I recall. But who calls jeans "blue pants"!!! No one on Earth. He's such a freak.
remember jen said sterns came into her room to get the leash but he never walked the dog (that sleeps in the living room per the roommate)!!! he USED the leash to hold Maddie sitting up in the car, I firmly believe that!!!
Thank you for explaining things in a way i could understand. I really enjoy your video's. Imo you are trustworthy and great explaining. A round of Thank yous to you both.
You can bet that Stephan knew exactly when the vape shop opened, he had lived in the area for years. I would like to hear a take on the poem he wrote to Maddie.
Why will a parent, Jen ever think Maddie & Stephan will leave her and ran off together, unless the mother suspected a relationship that worried her. That's enough evidence that mother new, how can her biggest fear be that Stephan will take off with Maddie when she's 18, no man, this is enough evidence
Is there any info on Jenn Soto's finances? I live on disability and can't afford to maintain a car. How was Jenn able to qualify for a loan and make payments on a brand new 22 Nissan much less sign up for a $350 Botox treatment.....
@@bubbabare6811 I believe she lived in her dad's house perhaps she was just there maintaining property for him paying little to no rent. There were others that lived in house different floor it's a town house..also she worked here and there so maybe she saves..
I believe that on the Saturday night before the party, Maddie told Jenn she thinks she's pregnant. Stefan was at his parents' in North Port and was very anxious, looking for meds from his mom or dad. Maddie called Stephan that day/night to see if he's coming to her party on Sunday and either she or Jenn told Stephan about a possible pregnancy. Maddie was anxious that evening per her friends, and Jenn "forgot" to take her meds and Stephan was very upset and anxious. I think Saturday was the beginning of the end for poor, sweet Maddie. On Sunday, Maddie cried about not wanting to go back to her mother's condo, but the family took her home anyway. I think she knew she had a bad night coming!
I think Maddie told SS that she thinks she is pregnant, because in her eyes they were a couple. That’s why she told him to get those coins. She was probably lying to get away from her mother. Afraid that her secret would come out. I don’t think SS did it. I think her mother strangled her from jealousy because they were pulling the woody Allen. IMO.
I have a question..why has nobody asked Jenn Soto why there was a camera tripod in bdr #4?????? Why.. didn't Jenn question Maddie not brushing her teeth and Jenn bthrm use morning of 26th???
Really enjoyed your video. Thought I had heard all there was on this case, but guess I was wrong. Not sure how I never watched your channel before. Subscribed. Thank you.
Stephan is very disconnected. On the phone call with his parents he is asking for birth certificates and social security card..Will need these things for employment when he is released. Maddening.
I'm so happy the police did such a thorough job on this case. Stephan is tied up nice and neat, as he should be. Rip Maddie. I hope your soul is carefree and happy, as you should have been in your too short life. 💔
I'm a new subscriber. I stumbled upon your channel. I'm so glad I did. I'm coming over as a Grizzly from Grizzly True Crime with Gisela K. I'm watching your Playlist of Madeline Soto. Justice for this precious child can't come soon enough. Thank you and your lovely wife for all that you do. Thank you.
DLR… I call it a Creep Meter. I’m petite, and I was pretty when I was young. My mom and I say that we are Weirdo Magnets. I was aware, and sensitive, so I maneuvered away from sus activity and men all of my life. I’m fortunate to have good spidey senses. It enrages me to think how that saved my life so many times, and that the need for this radar is a fact of life for women. Thank you Chris for being a warrior for all of us.
Hello Chris and Karen, Thankyou for the time and effort you put into presenting this to us. The information is very interesting. What a sad life Madeline had, with not one parent looking out for her. I think you and Chris are excellent together, very easy to and fro explaining all of this. Thankyou so much. Please pass on regards for Dylan and woof woof and a hug for Buddy x
I compare the police work done in this case to the travesty that happened in Delphi, IN and it makes me sad and angry. Thank goodness these LEO run such a tight ship. Justice for Madeline Soto will come soon. (But also, jail Jenn Soto!)
When I first saw "35,000" i thought it was a typo from the police department but when I realized it wasn't, damn man, I was shook because I thought those kind of photos were hard to get so he either spent most of his life getting them or they're really not that difficult (which is depressing as sh!t)
Stern's talked about going to the vape shop. It wasn't open, he waited, went back to it, left, in both his written statement and to the journalist. So did Jen. Both of their stories really focus on the vape shop. I feel like they rehersed their stories to keep it straight.
There sure wasn't any "real time" centre applied to Madeline's case. It took HOURS for the police to even send someone get details about her disappearance. Now, I know that for Madeline it was already too late. But the police didn't know that. They continually said that they were too busy and became annoyed with repeated calls. The DETECTIVES did excellent work. But the 911 people and the police were a disgrace. They appeared to have no idea how to handle a missing child call, or any interest either.
I agree with this but we need to remember that they are right by disneyworld where many children go missing. Correct me if im wrong, but was there two other child abductions happening the same day as maddys? In that same area? I would never bring my kids to that area. It’s almost like people are asking for it. Happiest place on earth for who? pedophiles? It’s gross and vile, but it’s the state of the world we live in today. I wouldn’t trust anyone else with the care of my children unless i had full access to video footage of them at all times and a tracker device on their clothing or body. At least when the child is small. Everyone is a suspect when it comes to my kids.
I 2:05:47 so appreciate how quickly law enforcement moved on this. Got the stuff thrown in the dumpsters. Kept reports so detailed. Really liked how you presented this information
The car was used by his parents as a dog mobile . Remember his mom breeds poodles. His dad said the car was used as their dog mobile. The car wasn’t Stephan’s.
Cris! Remember in the police bodycam footage at the PD when Stephan said she was wearing blue pants and Jenn corrected him to black shorts?! And she was found deceased in blue pants! That’s incriminating in itself!
RTCC: Dad 👮♀️ was a cop 1950s-1980s. He would’ve LOVED this technology ! His career was winding down at the dawn of DNA tracing. The book “The Blooding” blew his mind. (He was a Manchester, CT officer and enjoyed his trip to the police dept in Manchester, England)
1:26:37 Great story, you two. Had something similar where my husband spotted a creep in a packed art museum in Ottawa who wasn’t looking at the paintings; eyes were on the women. Husband faced this guy nose to nose and the guy left immediately.
I have to say lastly you two are a super team ! Now Chris is a real detective retired but still he’s got so much experience and then you are a reporter and everything else so there isn’t any channels on you tube that comes close to your content! And you guys truly care about what you all do ! Anyways ty for that guys !
One thing that I have thought of, is Jenn Soto said that Maddie went to sleep in another room with S Sterns, what if that is all a lie, and Jenn was more involved and Maddie never made it out of the Mothers room alive. I think this because one croc was found in dumpster and one in Jenn’s room. Jenn Soto and Stephan Sterns lied from the start, you can not believe anything. Jenn said S Sterns came into her room to get leash on the dog, the one and only time, in an interview, I am sure S Sterns said he was in and out of that room in the morning, and letting Jenn know what he was doing, so was he in and out of room or just once with dog, again the lies. I hope S Sterns flips on Jenn Soto and we know how involved she is.
Bedroom #4 had been rented out to another roommate who left and the room was sitting empty. If you believe what Jenn claimed, the three of them slept together and she was hyper vigilant about leaving Maddie with any man, even her own father. When did all this abuse happen what with Jenn never giving him any opportunity except the 5 times more recently now that Maddie was older, it must have been magic. Five times in the whole time she knew Stephan and only the last little while. Jenn is entirely full of it.
What an amazing couple. Personally I'm so glad you met. You're Like a finely tuned machine. Please take care of yourselves so you can live a long happy life together. Your family must be proud of you as well. I feel so much better knowing you're both out there, watching and reporting on these cases. I think if there were more humans like you, the world would be a better place. God bless you and your staff.
Oh my goodness I finally found you. I watch you all the time with Nancy Grace. Finally you pop up. So happy to follow. God Bless you. A fan from Alabama.
I think he possibly meant the entire history of a so called relationship. Her mom sent them upstairs together and he willingly went. I wondered also if his defense is going to pin it on Jen orchestrating all of it.
IMO no matter who he’s blaming, it doesn’t effect his innocence. Every part of what he was doing was wrong. If he was implicating JS, he should’ve called LE. If he was blaming MS, he’s even sicker and full of bull. He always had a choice to NOT commit these heinous crimes, but he did, and he shows no regret or remorse.
One thing I've been wondering is if MS thought she was pregnant and told SS and he panicked would he attempt to give her the Plan B pill? With abortion laws being almost nonexistent now....just a thought.
Thank you for calling out SS’s parents as at least “unusual parenting behavior”. I keep hearing people describe them almost as hero’s; frankly, they make the hair on the back of my neck stand up. You’re the first YTs I’ve heard describe them with some skepticism.
Karen I love the new do!! You have great hair in many styles but being of the ‘Feathered ‘ generation and a hair girl 36 years I’d say this is one of my favorite dos’ ❤pretty
The latest phone conversation between SS and his parents - he asks about a watch, a silver mickey box and mom throws in “no popcorn box”… I believe he was trying to find out if the police found and seized the watch. Was it a Fitbit watch he was looking for??? What a monster.
Fantastic analysis. However, I would argue he displays triats consistent with being a sociopath, which is a created by nurture/environment version of a psychopath, but less charming and far more impulsive and reactive. Glad he's locked up. The entire family system failed Maddie, most of all her mother.
2:24:44 it’s Maddie’s phone guys. Not a Fitbit watch. It’s moving with Stephan before he turns it off at the 7am time. Then powers on when Jen takes it in the car for her when she goes to pick her up.
@@NYnurse315 he did have a Fitbit that 'disappeared' he asked his father about it on a call probably hoping the police didn't get a hold of it .... but you're right at that time stamp they are incorrect it is Maddie's phone. I don't think I can listen to any more perspectives on these documents. It's getting to the point where it's the same information over and over....and over.
If he thought Maddie was pregnant do you think he was looking up that drug in Google to possibly do a forced abortion... like knock her out and try and abort the baby? Idk if she was pregnant or not but kinda sounds like he thought she was and that drug was supposedly used for medical procedures.. just a thought
That would be a surgery and imo she would clearly die from any attempt from that and the bleeding would be so horrific she’d end up at hospital where they would find out!!
This case frustrates me for so many reasons but Jen Soto being free is up there on that list.
I love the way you adore your wife. That kind of love and respect is so refreshing to see. Especially with all the stories we usually hear about.
Where was he getting his income? Was he selling these pictures? This is such a sad case. Madeline never had a chance. Mother needs to be held accountable also.
35,000 pics - I have over 11,000 on my iPhone over the last 3 -4 years and I think I take a lot of pictures. So 35,000 of “illegal” content is unbelievable. And to have those organized into folders and so on, sick. No wonder he couldn’t have a job / this was his full time work. So sad for Madeline.
I used to pick kids up from multiple schools for an after school program and If u are first in line or not, the cars behind you can go around. They are set up in a way that the cars behind can leave if their kid is retrieved before the cars in front. Her excuse as to why she left the line is absolutely BS! Anyone who picks up their kids knows this. Parents are instructed to stay in their car if they are in line, but they don’t have to leave the line before their kid comes out. That’s ridiculous. The Mother needs to be arrested immediately. Where is common sense?
Jenn has immunity.. have u not heard?? Depending on the type of immunity, I'm not sure that can be reversed.
Shout out to those amazing investigators and police who caught onto him right away and did the very best to ensure justice for this beautiful lil girl who deserved do much better than she ever got😢
I appreciate all the work Chris and Karen do to highlight and teach us. I hope the mom is held accountable, just like SS. They both make me sick to my stomach. Poor child had no one to protect her. May justice be served.
Outstanding Police work from this department. They should be recognized for their exemplary performance to detail and solving this case.
Suspect
During the police interview on the night of Maddie’s disappearance, Jennifer and Stephan disagreed on the color of shorts/pants she was wearing when last seen. Jenn said black shorts and Stephan said blue. Police went with black shorts because Jenn insisted. But now we know that Stephan was correct after all, probably because he was the last one who saw Maddie day of her death.
I think they found Maddie in jeans, but the clown said "blue pants" if I recall.
But who calls jeans "blue pants"!!!
No one on Earth.
He's such a freak.
@@saravandusen3886 you mean he dressed her after whatever happened?
As usual, I’ve learned more from you than I have everyone else combined. Thank you for the great show! ❤️👍
remember jen said sterns came into her room to get the leash but he never walked the dog (that sleeps in the living room per the roommate)!!! he USED the leash to hold Maddie sitting up in the car, I firmly believe that!!!
There are a lot of leashes in this investgation!
Me too.
I think he walked the dog so Jenn wouldn’t get up and he could get M out to his car with no one waking up
@@jillnelson4884 she was never waking up of her own accord. Loves to sleep🙄
@@jillnelson4884 Exactly!!
Always lovely to see & hear Karen on here, & people are right - she looks fantastic. Thank you both for doing what you do.
Thanks so much
Love that your wife works with you to make the show possible. ❤
Thank you for explaining things in a way i could understand. I really enjoy your video's. Imo you are trustworthy and great explaining.
A round of Thank yous to you both.
Thank you Chris, Karen and mods ❤
I love seeing you both on here! This was so educational, informative, and captivating (I never use that word)! Thank you for your time!!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
You can bet that Stephan knew exactly when the vape shop opened, he had lived in the area for years. I would like to hear a take on the poem he wrote to Maddie.
Why will a parent, Jen ever think Maddie & Stephan will leave her and ran off together, unless the mother suspected a relationship that worried her. That's enough evidence that mother new, how can her biggest fear be that Stephan will take off with Maddie when she's 18, no man, this is enough evidence
Thank you Chris and Karen 💜🩵💙 Rest in peace Maddie 🩵💙💜
May they nip him in the bud during his brief stay in prison. He’s not going to last
That's my hope too! JS IS DIRTY PLAYER...
Is there any info on Jenn Soto's finances? I live on disability and can't afford to maintain a car. How was Jenn able to qualify for a loan and make payments on a brand new 22 Nissan much less sign up for a $350 Botox treatment.....
@@bubbabare6811 I believe she lived in her dad's house perhaps she was just there maintaining property for him paying little to no rent. There were others that lived in house different floor it's a town house..also she worked here and there so maybe she saves..
Parents, just like Stephan
Selling photos i bet
She had Multiple Roomates and her Dad owned the townhouse.
Everyone failed her,it's so sad.
Sterns had a crappy birthday-what?! Madeleine was unalived by you on her birthday.
Wrong it was not her birthday but she will never have another
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It was on the night of her birthday celebration
Missed the live 😢. As always, great content. Ty Chris and Karen ❤
Chris and Karen! Thank you so much for another show! I would love to hear your commentary on that phone call between him and his parents! 🙏🏼
I believe that on the Saturday night before the party, Maddie told Jenn she thinks she's pregnant. Stefan was at his parents' in North Port and was very anxious, looking for meds from his mom or dad. Maddie called Stephan that day/night to see if he's coming to her party on Sunday and either she or Jenn told Stephan about a possible pregnancy. Maddie was anxious that evening per her friends, and Jenn "forgot" to take her meds and Stephan was very upset and anxious. I think Saturday was the beginning of the end for poor, sweet Maddie. On Sunday, Maddie cried about not wanting to go back to her mother's condo, but the family took her home anyway. I think she knew she had a bad night coming!
I think Maddie told SS that she thinks she is pregnant, because in her eyes they were a couple. That’s why she told him to get those coins. She was probably lying to get away from her mother. Afraid that her secret would come out. I don’t think SS did it. I think her mother strangled her from jealousy because they were pulling the woody Allen. IMO.
@@LadyCarrieSmith he did it! he was terrified of the ramifications and getting locked up!!
I have a question..why has nobody asked Jenn Soto why there was a camera tripod in bdr #4??????
Why.. didn't Jenn question Maddie not brushing her teeth and Jenn bthrm use morning of 26th???
Really enjoyed your video. Thought I had heard all there was on this case, but guess I was wrong. Not sure how I never watched your channel before. Subscribed. Thank you.
Love the two of you as a team! Thanks for excellent explanation of so much! Love ya guys!
Thank you Chris & Karen from New Zealand ❤
Stephan is very disconnected. On the phone call with his parents he is asking for birth certificates and social security card..Will need these things for employment when he is released. Maddening.
Believe me…He won’t need those documents! He is done! Throw away the key!!
Informative and Educational Content as always from TIR !! You both look fabulous together tonight ❤
You're the best!
Fantastic show! 👏🏻
Thank you for this Chris and Karen ❤ ❤🇬🇧
Love listening to your knowledge and analysis.
I'm so happy the police did such a thorough job on this case. Stephan is tied up nice and neat, as he should be.
Rip Maddie. I hope your soul is carefree and happy, as you should have been in your too short life. 💔
Thank you Chris & Karen! Appreciate you both. 🙋🏻💕
Thank you too!
I'm a new subscriber. I stumbled upon your channel. I'm so glad I did. I'm coming over as a Grizzly from Grizzly True Crime with Gisela K. I'm watching your Playlist of Madeline Soto.
Justice for this precious child can't come soon enough. Thank you and your lovely wife for all that you do. Thank you.
DLR… I call it a Creep Meter. I’m petite, and I was pretty when I was young. My mom and I say that we are Weirdo Magnets. I was aware, and sensitive, so I maneuvered away from sus activity and men all of my life. I’m fortunate to have good spidey senses. It enrages me to think how that saved my life so many times, and that the need for this radar is a fact of life for women. Thank you Chris for being a warrior for all of us.
I haven’t taken that many pictures in my whole life
I learned a lot from this channel. Great info others don't have!😊.
Hello Chris and Karen, Thankyou for the time and effort you put into presenting this to us. The information is very interesting. What a sad life Madeline had, with not one parent looking out for her. I think you and Chris are excellent together, very easy to and fro explaining all of this. Thankyou so much. Please pass on regards for Dylan and woof woof and a hug for Buddy x
Great show you guys!
Thanks for discussing this!!
I compare the police work done in this case to the travesty that happened in Delphi, IN and it makes me sad and angry. Thank goodness these LEO run such a tight ship. Justice for Madeline Soto will come soon.
(But also, jail Jenn Soto!)
@MKUltra42 yes I've been thinking that over the weekend too. What an absolute travesty for sure
Thank you Chris and Karen for the video
Sadly in his parents interview you saw that Mom was an enabler. A had some Red Flag when she had Mattie sleep with her when they visited.
Also when he was relaxing with Jen, wasn't maddie's body in the back of the car?
Yes, for at least 2 hours according to the time line!
Good Lord honestly horrific.
Sterns must have been alone with Madeline a lot to have that many pictures.
We need these detectives on the Delphi Case……!!!
When I first saw "35,000" i thought it was a typo from the police department but when I realized it wasn't, damn man, I was shook because I thought those kind of photos were hard to get so he either spent most of his life getting them or they're really not that difficult (which is depressing as sh!t)
He was on telegram and other places online trading and collecting CSAM like it was pokemon cards. Sick. Not difficult for these freaks at all.
Jerusalem replay crew, watching again to glean a few more pearls of wisdom. Chris & Karen are rays of light on an otherwise very dark subject.
Stern's talked about going to the vape shop. It wasn't open, he waited, went back to it, left, in both his written statement and to the journalist. So did Jen. Both of their stories really focus on the vape shop. I feel like they rehersed their stories to keep it straight.
Love love your hair Karen. Hold on to that stylist you look fab. And thank you for reviewing all if the pages for us!
Tram replay here! The moree that comes out about him, the more I'm disgusted! I pray Maddie's at peace 💞
Thank for bringing this to everyone 's attention. I look for new TIR every morning.
Love the show. I’ve had six commercials already … over it… will watch the rest when I have time. Thank you for all you do.
We all hate commercials, right?
I enjoyed listening to you both dissect SS police report. Thank you.
There sure wasn't any "real time" centre applied to Madeline's case.
It took HOURS for the police to even send someone get details about her disappearance.
Now, I know that for Madeline it was already too late.
But the police didn't know that.
They continually said that they were too busy and became annoyed with repeated calls.
The DETECTIVES did excellent work.
But the 911 people and the police were a disgrace. They appeared to have no idea how to handle a missing child call, or any interest either.
I agree with this but we need to remember that they are right by disneyworld where many children go missing. Correct me if im wrong, but was there two other child abductions happening the same day as maddys? In that same area? I would never bring my kids to that area. It’s almost like people are asking for it. Happiest place on earth for who? pedophiles?
It’s gross and vile, but it’s the state of the world we live in today. I wouldn’t trust anyone else with the care of my children unless i had full access to video footage of them at all times and a tracker device on their clothing or body. At least when the child is small. Everyone is a suspect when it comes to my kids.
Loved this episode 🙏🏻
I 2:05:47 so appreciate how quickly law enforcement moved on this. Got the stuff thrown in the dumpsters. Kept reports so detailed. Really liked how you presented this information
Agreed!
Thank you so very much for all your hard work Chris❤Karen ❤and team ❤️
Watching replay from Boston - beautiful couple . Time of year to be grateful for the good in this world !!
The car was used by his parents as a dog mobile . Remember his mom breeds poodles. His dad said the car was used as their dog mobile. The car wasn’t Stephan’s.
Cris! Remember in the police bodycam footage at the PD when Stephan said she was wearing blue pants and Jenn corrected him to black shorts?! And she was found deceased in blue pants! That’s incriminating in itself!
RTCC: Dad 👮♀️ was a cop 1950s-1980s. He would’ve LOVED this technology ! His career was winding down at the dawn of DNA tracing. The book “The Blooding” blew his mind. (He was a Manchester, CT officer and enjoyed his trip to the police dept in Manchester, England)
Wow another great informational video, you guys are amazing.
The Fitbit would have got bored waiting for any activity from SS and stopped I reckon...😂
😂😂 I
I agree Chris, my mother used to tell me that you can tell a lot about a guy if you look inside his vehicle.
The professionalism of the investigating team is of the scale this team is amazing little maddie will get justice 🙏
I hope Stevens mom and dad watch this since Stevens will never tell them the truth.
I don't think they want to know
It’s Stefan not Steven
Chris, can you have Steve Johnson on to go over both Stephan’s and Jenn’s statements?
1:26:37 Great story, you two. Had something similar where my husband spotted a creep in a packed art museum in Ottawa who wasn’t looking at the paintings; eyes were on the women. Husband faced this guy nose to nose and the guy left immediately.
Cause I love love love this channel now !
I have to say lastly you two are a super team ! Now Chris is a real detective retired but still he’s got so much experience and then you are a reporter and everything else so there isn’t any channels on you tube that comes close to your content! And you guys truly care about what you all do ! Anyways ty for that guys !
One thing that I have thought of, is Jenn Soto said that Maddie went to sleep in another room with S Sterns, what if that is all a lie, and Jenn was more involved and Maddie never made it out of the Mothers room alive. I think this because one croc was found in dumpster and one in Jenn’s room. Jenn Soto and Stephan Sterns lied from the start, you can not believe anything. Jenn said S Sterns came into her room to get leash on the dog, the one and only time, in an interview, I am sure S Sterns said he was in and out of that room in the morning, and letting Jenn know what he was doing, so was he in and out of room or just once with dog, again the lies. I hope S Sterns flips on Jenn Soto and we know how involved she is.
Yes! I have said why believe they were upstairs
@loriclarke1142 agreed, i think she found out maddie was pregnant and yetted her
top analysis thank you
Justice for Madeline.
The car does not belong to Stefan, but rather his parents who typically use it.
Great coverage of this case. Thinking of you Madeline. 🖤
Bedroom #4 had been rented out to another roommate who left and the room was sitting empty. If you believe what Jenn claimed, the three of them slept together and she was hyper vigilant about leaving Maddie with any man, even her own father. When did all this abuse happen what with Jenn never giving him any opportunity except the 5 times more recently now that Maddie was older, it must have been magic. Five times in the whole time she knew Stephan and only the last little while. Jenn is entirely full of it.
@@carol-l8u I have been SCREAMING this! Thank you!
What an amazing couple. Personally I'm so glad you met. You're Like a finely tuned machine.
Please take care of yourselves so you can live a long happy life together. Your family must be proud of you as well. I feel so much better knowing you're both out there, watching and reporting on these cases. I think if there were more humans like you, the world would be a better place. God bless you and your staff.
I believe Jenn knew what was going on with Stephan and Made
Oh my goodness I finally found you. I watch you all the time with Nancy Grace. Finally you pop up. So happy to follow. God Bless you. A fan from Alabama.
It makes me wonder if he sexually abused other children, killed&disposed of them.
Hey from Georgia! Watching on the replay❤
Hey back!
Was Maddie SA’d the night she was murdered. He told his parents that he didn’t start it and I believe he’s blaming Maddie
The autopsy results have not been released. That would show that if it happened that night.
I think he possibly meant the entire history of a so called relationship. Her mom sent them upstairs together and he willingly went. I wondered also if his defense is going to pin it on Jen orchestrating all of it.
I believe he was blaming Jenn the mom.
IMO no matter who he’s blaming, it doesn’t effect his innocence. Every part of what he was doing was wrong. If he was implicating JS, he should’ve called LE. If he was blaming MS, he’s even sicker and full of bull. He always had a choice to NOT commit these heinous crimes, but he did, and he shows no regret or remorse.
Hi Chris & Karen 🙏🏻 x all the way from uk 🇬🇧
1:51:23 HEAVY drug usage in the home…really wonder if JS was in on the drug usage.
100% I think she was.
One thing I've been wondering is if MS thought she was pregnant and told SS and he panicked would he attempt to give her the Plan B pill? With abortion laws being almost nonexistent now....just a thought.
And what effect would that have on a young person? I pray for justice for Madeline ❤
@@jenniferleitner6071 I’ve wondered the same thing, would he be able to get the plan B pill tho? Thought it was restricted in Florida
@ogadlogadl490 good question I'm not sure about that!
L❤ve your commentary and the song at the end. Looking forward to more
Thank you for calling out SS’s parents as at least “unusual parenting behavior”. I keep hearing people describe them almost as hero’s; frankly, they make the hair on the back of my neck stand up. You’re the first YTs I’ve heard describe them with some skepticism.
Sorry I missed your live❤ I’m on replay ❤️
Thanks for coming
Karen I love the new do!! You have great hair in many styles but being of the ‘Feathered ‘ generation and a hair girl 36 years I’d say this is one of my favorite dos’ ❤pretty
Watching on replay. I think bath mats are for dogs, but the photography backdrop gave me the Willies!
The latest phone conversation between SS and his parents - he asks about a watch, a silver mickey box and mom throws in “no popcorn box”… I believe he was trying to find out if the police found and seized the watch. Was it a Fitbit watch he was looking for??? What a monster.
@JaxGrammy that's what I thought also when I heard the call.
Love Karen!!! ✌🏼
Fantastic analysis. However, I would argue he displays triats consistent with being a sociopath, which is a created by nurture/environment version of a psychopath, but less charming and far more impulsive and reactive. Glad he's locked up. The entire family system failed Maddie, most of all her mother.
Let’s make
America SAFE Again
2:24:44 it’s Maddie’s phone guys. Not a Fitbit watch. It’s moving with Stephan before he turns it off at the 7am time. Then powers on when Jen takes it in the car for her when she goes to pick her up.
@@NYnurse315 he did have a Fitbit that 'disappeared' he asked his father about it on a call probably hoping the police didn't get a hold of it .... but you're right at that time stamp they are incorrect it is Maddie's phone. I don't think I can listen to any more perspectives on these documents. It's getting to the point where it's the same information over and over....and over.
If he thought Maddie was pregnant do you think he was looking up that drug in Google to possibly do a forced abortion... like knock her out and try and abort the baby? Idk if she was pregnant or not but kinda sounds like he thought she was and that drug was supposedly used for medical procedures.. just a thought
Interesting thought and also very heartbreaking 💔 each new thing that comes out is maddening, JS should be locked up too😊
That would be a surgery and imo she would clearly die from any attempt from that and the bleeding would be so horrific she’d end up at hospital where they would find out!!
Thank you!! 🎉