download the adobe flash player debugger; I think they took it down but you can still find it on wayback machine. Then you can run the downloadable files from flipline on the debugger. I think this video covers it th-cam.com/video/dH0Xl7t5Kpw/w-d-xo.html
I LOVE THE PLATFORMER PAPA LOUIE GAMES seriously though, i think they're underappreciated by the community. i hope a 4th installment with new sets of skills is coming. also "disappointment skill"💀💀💀 lmfao
tysm for watching!! and yeah I agree so much...I feel like the food games end up getting really repetitive but I've always found the platformers to be fresh and challenging. ig it's because they're kinda "one and done" so people just forget about them
@@Amyoo Yep, I agree! I love the platformer series much more than the gameria series. Also, while the "one and done" part seems valid; however, I don't think that was the main reason why they discontinued the series. It was more because of the closure of Flash which resulted into discontinuation of PC flash games completely. After that, they've been just making app gamerias. However, this may change soon because now they're also doing Papa Louie games on Steam, starting with Freezeria Deluxe. And if the game ends up being much popular on the platform, we may get other Flipline games too on Steam in future, such as the platformers like Papa Louie 4, Cactus Mccoy, etc. possibly.
Nice to see someone covering the Papa Louie platformers. I used to love playing them and still do, and I'm desperately hoping Flipline will one day grace us with a Papa Louie 4.
@@Amyooeah, I seriously don't get why they didn't have her in an earlier level. That would've been better than giving us a skilless character near the end of the game.
The vid was so fun! 2:12 I love to think that Papa Louie 3 skills all have some practical merit. Wall climbing has the least, but in some situations you can skip some frustrating parts of the level with it.
@@Amyoo I don't know if anyone has done this already (plus it would take a while to do), but perhaps you can rank all customers? Even though there are only a few abilities, each customer has a different attack, plus some have weird quirks (like Boomer's unique attack and Scooter's slide). You can also rank them on accessibility, or how easy it is to unlock them. Just an idea.
This is such a really good video. I've been replaying the papa louie games recently because that basted papa louie can't run his own damn restaurants and gosh papa louie 2 and 3 are still so hard. I've beaten both of them once but I enjoy playing them over again. I enjoy all these skills sort of and I'm really hoping to see a papa louie 4, but unfortunately I don't see it returning. I'm glad to return to this nostalgic series. This is my childhood
thank you so much for the nice comments, they mean a lot!! yeah idk if I just suck at the games but I literally can't kill radley madish to save my life
@@SigmaRat Same!! I love those games, I'd really love to see Papa Louie 4 returning in the future! Especially since they very recently started making their gamerias for Steam, who knows, maybe they will do some platformer games for the Steam in future if they gain enough popularity through the Steam platform.
Wow, this is really underrated. I hope you could talk about both Papa Louie food games and the platformers too! Flipline doesn't have a very large community, especially for the platformer games which seem to get glossed over a lot, even though they're really fun. I'm glad there's someone else who acknowledges the extistance of Papa Louie Platformers.
Papa Louie 2 and 3 was im pretty sure the first game I ever played, I remember 100% completing papa Louie 2 and when 3 released I was so happy bc it was just so good :) I sadly didn’t fully beat that as In get all achievements and stuff, man I really wish they could at least release these games on the App Store I’d pay for them fr
As a kid, I never really enjoyed the making-food games, but the platformer were amazing to me. I used Flashpoint to download the game in 2024, and it works like a charm. Really made my childhood better.
7:32 to be fair, gliding can sorta do that on the initial glide with the height boost, but its really situational and dosent happen often so its mostly a perk double jump has :p Also as someone who has 100% completed both games, you tierlist is basically correct ( besides some biases but thats mostly just preference 💀)
I wish Papa Louie 2 and 3 were on Cool Math Games I wanna play them but they’re removed because of Flash being dead 😕 But this ranking is awesome! I remember loving swim boost because it was Utah’s skill lol :D 💖
I commented under the pinned comment about a way you can still play flash games, just not online and aww I love utah too her tiki torch is kinda goated
This video popped in my recommended and idk why cuz I think I've only ever seen like 2 papa louie videos on youtube but I am so pleasantly surprised, it was really entertaining and I liked the concept and shit. Earned my sub. I think this girl would actually make a good youtuber if she tried lol. And videos like this too, where she wants to make a video on her own instead of having to put out a video.
from a game design perspective i feel like skilless characters shouldnt even exist because once you get a skill character theres basically no reason to use them except for them having more fun weapons like akaris bananazooka at the very least they couldve made less skilless characters, i cant think of a single reasonable explanation for captain cori not having swim boost for example
Many of the non skill characters do have unique weapons ( the banagun, cross bow, pineapple shooter and skull boomerang to name a few)but they tend to be clunky and the other weapons are more consistent
@@joshuaespinoza2117 even if they objectively arent as good as the skill characters ones sometimes, variety still helps a lot and a different weapon could add a unique challenge but once you get literally any skill character all reason to use nonskill characters is just removed other than for completion for me
@@questionmarkquestionmarkques yeah that's very much true, I just wanted to add that non-skill characters do have a bit of variety ( even if it's very niche and not really useful) :p
tbh wall jumping can be op at points where you literally fall off while a wall in front of you, meaning that you can just grab onto the wall and the jump back onto the ground (unless you're too low or took too long) and same goes for wall climbing while the con being that the ground is right on top of your head or longer in breadth so i think these two deserve higher ranks.
cori got done so dirty; in pl2 she had the worst skill and in pl3 she didnt even have a skill even though swim boost wouldve been perfect for her since shes literally a captain they didnt even give her the skill that replaced rock pushing for whatever reason. not cool cori is awesome and deserves better zoe too, what were they thinking putting a skilless in the actual last level
fun fact that I found out myself: You can cheese both of the bosses in Papa Louie 2 with ground pound. Unfortunately, Flipline Studios realized that being able to ground pound every single heart of the boss in one go was a bit too overpowered so they fixed it in Papa Louie 3
You can actually span dash but it's not very practical. I believe I achieved it by pressing down and spacebar right in the middle of a dash to continue the dash, but its way harder to do than the ground pound technique and way less fun because if running into an enemy at the end of a dash, you can get damaged and there is no way to avoid it. Im glad I'm not the only one who discovered the ground pound glitch because it is SO fun to pull off in Papa Louie 2.
Now if you want to get more specific for best ability we should consider the best double jumper based on there attacks and hitbox type. In my opinion scooter solos as the best double jumper in the game in both papa louie 2 and papa louie 3, followed only by Timm and his dance moves. (Timm is also only in papa louie 3)
My ranking: 10th Pushing - it has like 3 or 4 uses in the entire game, and useless anywere else. I hope if they ever remake papa louie 2, they substitute this for dashing. 9th Crawling - at least this has more uses then pushing. A simple fix for this would be to allow you to walk crawled anywhere, not just below tight spaces. 8th Normies - unless you're Zoe, this is just the early unlockables. Papa louie 2 definitively has too many tho, I would remove some in case of a remake. 7/6th Wall Jumping/Climbing - both do the same thing, climbing is better becouse it has more uses and has much clever uses then WJ. WJ is funnier to use so it's a tie. 5th Ground Pound - great in Papa Louie 2, useless in Papa Louie 3. 4th - Swim Dashing - makes underwater levels good, but is way to obvious when it needs to be used. 3rd Double Jumping - great for vertical levels, good anywhere else. I just think the next two are better. 2nd Dashing - super fun to use, helps a lot when you're being spamed enemies, and has nice puzzles (level 3 and 8 specially). 1st Gliding - skips half of the levels, makes plataforming be easy, it's availible early on both games and it's fun as h"ll to use.
Damn the papa louie games were actually so cool though, cuz its like every new character you save can give you a completely new weapon and skill and they have 2 alt costumes two which is so cool. Too bad a lot of weapons are kinda the same and in hindsight, a lot of the skills aren't that exciting. I feel like despite all the great cooking sim games flipline has made, Cactus Mc Coy games will always be their best games. Damn the music in that Game was actually so great too.
I kinda use gliding to go across the map without happing to wait on the balloon and i glide everywhere instead of walking but double jump is also good because sometimes im about to fall of the balloon and the extra jump saved meh
@@Amyoo you can skip a lot of enemies before you unlock scooter and then you can use scooter in the quicksand level/levels with long vertical gaps/the last level to kill the boss onion second phase instatly once you hit it the first time but you can simply skip them
Why haven't you mentioned that you can insta-kill bosses in Papa Louie 2 with Ground Pound? This is actually very useful for speedruns, or if you just don't want to fight them, or you just fight them for the first time, duh, even for fun, to watch these mfs suffer and be killed in less than a second.
that's a great question! I didn't mention that because I had no idea they could do that. I'll admit that my least favorite part of the game is the boss battles, and normally I'd use a specialized character like boomer iirc
@brunolike8631 that's not 100% true. Gliding is a skill in that game, but it's only 1 character who can do it (Papa Louie). Though as you said, that's because you could only play as him and no one else.
@@Amyoo I just feel like dashing not only gets you through the levels faster but kill most enemies as you do it. The normies just use their weapon nothing else
that's fair...obviously having a skill is always going to be better than not having one but some of them just feel so useless and irrelevant that comparatively they weren't as satisfying/impactful to obtain (hence the "disappointment" skill)
@@Amyoo pushing rocks and crawling are kinda useless in regular gameplay but just saying dashing could've been number 5. I am someone who knows too much about the Papa Louie lore and have beaten 5 of the original flash Papa games and 100% Papa Louie 2 and 3. I do this cuz I have nothing else to do with my pointless life
Where do you play papa louis?!?!
download the adobe flash player debugger; I think they took it down but you can still find it on wayback machine. Then you can run the downloadable files from flipline on the debugger. I think this video covers it th-cam.com/video/dH0Xl7t5Kpw/w-d-xo.html
@@Amyoo there's also flashpoint.
Numki browser
@@u2ubvanvan I can't play any levels after level 3, dude. It sucks. Every unblocked website I go to, level 4 just cannot load.
@@timmytheinventor4746I had the same problem but I downloaded flashpoint and there are more games there and you can play past level 3
I LOVE THE PLATFORMER PAPA LOUIE GAMES
seriously though, i think they're underappreciated by the community.
i hope a 4th installment with new sets of skills is coming.
also
"disappointment skill"💀💀💀 lmfao
tysm for watching!! and yeah I agree so much...I feel like the food games end up getting really repetitive but I've always found the platformers to be fresh and challenging. ig it's because they're kinda "one and done" so people just forget about them
@@Amyoo Yep, I agree! I love the platformer series much more than the gameria series. Also, while the "one and done" part seems valid; however, I don't think that was the main reason why they discontinued the series. It was more because of the closure of Flash which resulted into discontinuation of PC flash games completely. After that, they've been just making app gamerias. However, this may change soon because now they're also doing Papa Louie games on Steam, starting with Freezeria Deluxe. And if the game ends up being much popular on the platform, we may get other Flipline games too on Steam in future, such as the platformers like Papa Louie 4, Cactus Mccoy, etc. possibly.
I would love to play those games again.
I already played the first 2 again, I just need to play the third
I mean, the Foodini mini games imply that if there was a 4th installment it would be pancakes themed, so "when pancakes attack"?
i wish papa louie 4 existed
real ://
@@Amyoo i think gonna be
@@Amyoo in the new papa louie game the papas smth in the news under the bed there is the sun or what is that that up in the cells that
sorry mate I just googled that and I think you have an untrustworthy news source
@@Amyoo wht that's trhe what i say
Nice to see someone covering the Papa Louie platformers. I used to love playing them and still do, and I'm desperately hoping Flipline will one day grace us with a Papa Louie 4.
"and you were forced to deal with the cruel reality, and bitter disapointment that formed as a result"
cough, Zoe, cough
yeah no a skill-less rescue on level 8 is insane
I was so mad the first time i played the game 😭
@@Amyooeah, I seriously don't get why they didn't have her in an earlier level. That would've been better than giving us a skilless character near the end of the game.
zoe is goated smh she has a higher jump
also in papa louie 2, you can literally save kingsley with glider. and also kahuna with 2x jumping
yes they're sort of similar
The vid was so fun!
2:12 I love to think that Papa Louie 3 skills all have some practical merit. Wall climbing has the least, but in some situations you can skip some frustrating parts of the level with it.
As a fellow Papa Louie lover, I Can say, Double Jump is the BEST. I love it :)
Love from 🇮🇹!
love you back
FRR
Pls make more papa Louie videos. Good papa Louie videos are so hard to come by
aw thanks that means a lot :) I'll try but tbh I don't have a lot of ideas lol
@@Amyoo rank levels
@@Amyoo I don't know if anyone has done this already (plus it would take a while to do), but perhaps you can rank all customers? Even though there are only a few abilities, each customer has a different attack, plus some have weird quirks (like Boomer's unique attack and Scooter's slide). You can also rank them on accessibility, or how easy it is to unlock them.
Just an idea.
@@Amyoo rank the baddies!
taylor with the blunt and mlg glasses made my day
This is such a really good video. I've been replaying the papa louie games recently because that basted papa louie can't run his own damn restaurants and gosh papa louie 2 and 3 are still so hard. I've beaten both of them once but I enjoy playing them over again. I enjoy all these skills sort of and I'm really hoping to see a papa louie 4, but unfortunately I don't see it returning. I'm glad to return to this nostalgic series. This is my childhood
thank you so much for the nice comments, they mean a lot!! yeah idk if I just suck at the games but I literally can't kill radley madish to save my life
@@Amyoo Sounds Like a Skill issue lol
@@SigmaRat Same!! I love those games, I'd really love to see Papa Louie 4 returning in the future! Especially since they very recently started making their gamerias for Steam, who knows, maybe they will do some platformer games for the Steam in future if they gain enough popularity through the Steam platform.
I think I must be insane because I've probably beaten these games like 10 or more times.
okay well tbh I've only tried like twice but I rage quit after the second time
Wow, this is really underrated. I hope you could talk about both Papa Louie food games and the platformers too! Flipline doesn't have a very large community, especially for the platformer games which seem to get glossed over a lot, even though they're really fun. I'm glad there's someone else who acknowledges the extistance of Papa Louie Platformers.
thanks for watching! and yeah, ig it's because they're kinda all online kid games
@@Amyoominecraft is 1000x more of a kid game than Papa Louie games.
I really like dashing, but I will admit that part of it it's due to me always playing as Akari lol
Papa Louie 2 and 3 was im pretty sure the first game I ever played, I remember 100% completing papa Louie 2 and when 3 released I was so happy bc it was just so good :) I sadly didn’t fully beat that as In get all achievements and stuff, man I really wish they could at least release these games on the App Store I’d pay for them fr
Your ranking is on point and the video is hilarious
THANK YOU SO MUCH bless your soul you just made my whole day
As a kid, I never really enjoyed the making-food games, but the platformer were amazing to me. I used Flashpoint to download the game in 2024, and it works like a charm. Really made my childhood better.
Here's my view:
#9: Crawling
#8: Pushing Rocks
#7: Wall Jumping
#6: Wall Climbing
#5: Gliding
#4: Double Jump
#3: Ground Pound
#2: Swim Boost
#1: Dashing
damn why you like dashing so much
@@Amyoo Their answer would probably be yes. Or maybe just my response idk lol
7:32 to be fair, gliding can sorta do that on the initial glide with the height boost, but its really situational and dosent happen often so its mostly a perk double jump has :p
Also as someone who has 100% completed both games, you tierlist is basically correct ( besides some biases but thats mostly just preference 💀)
yeah ik what you're talking about I remember I used to love that
thanks for watching!!
as a speedrunner..... double jump at no1 is an absolute win with how broken it is
knew I was right 😎😎 thanks for watching
Dashing is my personal favorite, it's so cool!
You know what was weird, the characters with the ground pound ability were fat the characters with the crawl ability was short.
LMFAO WHY HAVE I NEVER NOTICED THAT
I wish Papa Louie 2 and 3 were on Cool Math Games I wanna play them but they’re removed because of Flash being dead 😕
But this ranking is awesome! I remember loving swim boost because it was Utah’s skill lol :D 💖
I commented under the pinned comment about a way you can still play flash games, just not online
and aww I love utah too her tiki torch is kinda goated
@@Amyoo Ohhh okay that sounds great ill check it out tysm!! And I’ve been a Utah lover since childhood I love her tiki torch :D ✨
This video popped in my recommended and idk why cuz I think I've only ever seen like 2 papa louie videos on youtube but I am so pleasantly surprised, it was really entertaining and I liked the concept and shit. Earned my sub. I think this girl would actually make a good youtuber if she tried lol. And videos like this too, where she wants to make a video on her own instead of having to put out a video.
can't believe someone actually did this thanks thanks
ofc ofc anytime lmfao
from a game design perspective i feel like skilless characters shouldnt even exist because once you get a skill character theres basically no reason to use them except for them having more fun weapons like akaris bananazooka
at the very least they couldve made less skilless characters, i cant think of a single reasonable explanation for captain cori not having swim boost for example
Many of the non skill characters do have unique weapons ( the banagun, cross bow, pineapple shooter and skull boomerang to name a few)but they tend to be clunky and the other weapons are more consistent
@@joshuaespinoza2117 even if they objectively arent as good as the skill characters ones sometimes, variety still helps a lot and a different weapon could add a unique challenge but once you get literally any skill character all reason to use nonskill characters is just removed other than for completion for me
@@questionmarkquestionmarkques yeah that's very much true, I just wanted to add that non-skill characters do have a bit of variety ( even if it's very niche and not really useful) :p
the problem is that playing through a level with no skill just adds tedium because you'll have to run through it again
tbh wall jumping can be op at points where you literally fall off while a wall in front of you, meaning that you can just grab onto the wall and the jump back onto the ground (unless you're too low or took too long) and same goes for wall climbing while the con being that the ground is right on top of your head or longer in breadth so i think these two deserve higher ranks.
Fun fact double jump can insta kill evrything if used right also includind the bosses
Imagine if they make a 4th game.
it would be great
Papa louie 4 when Tacos attacks
@@shakowz It's happening?
cori got done so dirty; in pl2 she had the worst skill and in pl3 she didnt even have a skill even though swim boost wouldve been perfect for her since shes literally a captain
they didnt even give her the skill that replaced rock pushing for whatever reason. not cool cori is awesome and deserves better
zoe too, what were they thinking putting a skilless in the actual last level
This makes me want to make my own ranking
do it I'll watch
Here's my list
10. Wall Jump
9. Pushing
8. Crawling
7. No Skill
6. Wall Climbing
5. Dashing
4. Swim Boost
3. Ground Pound
2. Double Jump
1. Gliding
fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
If you dont know, you can use gliding to skip 1x double jump quest & 2x pushing quests in papa louie 2 so in my opinion its no. 1
In papa louie 2 there’s a glitch with scooter where you: Double jump and right as you hit the ground crouch. This glitch can one shot madly radish
This is the closest thing to a Papa louie platformer fandom that we have.
It's this video..
And some Comments.
fun fact that I found out myself: You can cheese both of the bosses in Papa Louie 2 with ground pound. Unfortunately, Flipline Studios realized that being able to ground pound every single heart of the boss in one go was a bit too overpowered so they fixed it in Papa Louie 3
You can actually span dash but it's not very practical. I believe I achieved it by pressing down and spacebar right in the middle of a dash to continue the dash, but its way harder to do than the ground pound technique and way less fun because if running into an enemy at the end of a dash, you can get damaged and there is no way to avoid it.
Im glad I'm not the only one who discovered the ground pound glitch because it is SO fun to pull off in Papa Louie 2.
Now if you want to get more specific for best ability we should consider the best double jumper based on there attacks and hitbox type. In my opinion scooter solos as the best double jumper in the game in both papa louie 2 and papa louie 3, followed only by Timm and his dance moves. (Timm is also only in papa louie 3)
Ground pound is such a funny skill man, W video btw
we need papa louie 4: When sandwich's attack
My number 1 is gliding, I love skipping the whole map
My ranking:
10th Pushing - it has like 3 or 4 uses in the entire game, and useless anywere else. I hope if they ever remake papa louie 2, they substitute this for dashing.
9th Crawling - at least this has more uses then pushing. A simple fix for this would be to allow you to walk crawled anywhere, not just below tight spaces.
8th Normies - unless you're Zoe, this is just the early unlockables. Papa louie 2 definitively has too many tho, I would remove some in case of a remake.
7/6th Wall Jumping/Climbing - both do the same thing, climbing is better becouse it has more uses and has much clever uses then WJ. WJ is funnier to use so it's a tie.
5th Ground Pound - great in Papa Louie 2, useless in Papa Louie 3.
4th - Swim Dashing - makes underwater levels good, but is way to obvious when it needs to be used.
3rd Double Jumping - great for vertical levels, good anywhere else. I just think the next two are better.
2nd Dashing - super fun to use, helps a lot when you're being spamed enemies, and has nice puzzles (level 3 and 8 specially).
1st Gliding - skips half of the levels, makes plataforming be easy, it's availible early on both games and it's fun as h"ll to use.
I love facing burgerzillas with groundpound.
Damn the papa louie games were actually so cool though, cuz its like every new character you save can give you a completely new weapon and skill and they have 2 alt costumes two which is so cool. Too bad a lot of weapons are kinda the same and in hindsight, a lot of the skills aren't that exciting. I feel like despite all the great cooking sim games flipline has made, Cactus Mc Coy games will always be their best games. Damn the music in that Game was actually so great too.
as a papa louie player i can say that this list is a W
I kinda use gliding to go across the map without happing to wait on the balloon and i glide everywhere instead of walking but double jump is also good because sometimes im about to fall of the balloon and the extra jump saved meh
I LOVE PAPA'S!!!
same
Great video👏👏
:)
I think the best in papa louie 2 is that broken gliding ability by bommer which is unlocked very early in papa louie 2
yessss it's so fun
@@Amyoo you can skip a lot of enemies before you unlock scooter and then you can use scooter in the quicksand level/levels with long vertical gaps/the last level to kill the boss onion second phase instatly once you hit it the first time but you can simply skip them
climbing is underrated
Cool vid ^^
thanks so much :)
papa louie 2 fan? marry me please
Why haven't you mentioned that you can insta-kill bosses in Papa Louie 2 with Ground Pound? This is actually very useful for speedruns, or if you just don't want to fight them, or you just fight them for the first time, duh, even for fun, to watch these mfs suffer and be killed in less than a second.
that's a great question! I didn't mention that because I had no idea they could do that. I'll admit that my least favorite part of the game is the boss battles, and normally I'd use a specialized character like boomer iirc
Finally someone agrees water is ass without swim boost
Is Papa Louie 4 ever going to be released? And will we be able to play it on Flash platforms?
Btw good video keep it up
thanks! and sorry I have no idea what flipline is doing but I heard they released a remake of freezeria or summ
@@Amyoo I think it's called papas freezeria deluxe and people said it's on steam idk myself
Damn I didn't know ground pound and double jump were so op. And that the other skills were so...just not that exciting lol
Agreed!
The ground pound is 10 times better than all ground pounder weapons (You should also rank the weapons).
I love that games
i can find no website where papa louie 2 functions past levelt 4, and papa louie 3 functions at all
Where is comming papa Louie 4 please ?
I have no idea bruh
I was here when the view count was 350
😎 thanks for watching
My teir list:
Gliding
Double Jump
Ground Pound
Swim Boast
Dashing
Wall climbing
Wall jumping
Crawling
Rock pushing
No skill
Almost the same as the video lol
how did you manage to play the platformer games?
check pinned!
how did you download papa louie 2 ..i tried but couldnt i have flash but not the game
il y a l'explication dans un commentair pour te dire comment elle a jouer a ce jeux
what about we see you play papas freezeria deluxe?
🤔
link please on papa louie 2 when burgers attack
wdym
Papa louie 2 level 4 is not opening 😢😢😢😢
She replied to one of the comments and explained how to install the full version
@@VAGH60 Unfortunately it doesn't exist😔
Счастья какое ❤
6:28 what
[earthbound music plays]
What about papalouie 1?
It has no skills (and no playable characters other then Papa himself)
@brunolike8631 that's not 100% true. Gliding is a skill in that game, but it's only 1 character who can do it (Papa Louie). Though as you said, that's because you could only play as him and no one else.
bro really put normies above dashing
do you disagree?? 🤨🤨
@@Amyoo I just feel like dashing not only gets you through the levels faster but kill most enemies as you do it. The normies just use their weapon nothing else
that's fair...obviously having a skill is always going to be better than not having one but some of them just feel so useless and irrelevant that comparatively they weren't as satisfying/impactful to obtain (hence the "disappointment" skill)
@@Amyoo pushing rocks and crawling are kinda useless in regular gameplay but just saying dashing could've been number 5. I am someone who knows too much about the Papa Louie lore and have beaten 5 of the original flash Papa games and 100% Papa Louie 2 and 3. I do this cuz I have nothing else to do with my pointless life
you hate swimming? skill issue.