I like to think that Hermione restored her parents' memories once everything was safe again. Plus, I never realised that Catelyn Stark, AKA Michelle Fairley, was Hermione's mother in the seventh film, having replaced another actress from the second movie.
I didn’t realize She was unjustifiably fired. Warner Bro is known for Inconsistencies with Characters by unjustified firing People except Vincent Crabbe and Albus Dumbledore all rest is unjustified.
The film didn't really get it 'wrong' as such, because it also didn't include Hermione's line about tracking her parents down and reversing the spell if she survives, nor her saying that she hasn't done a Memory Charm before, so it still works
Movies can never be the same as books, a lot of us understand that... but using obliviate was strange after reading the canon version because it's impossible to reverse that spell.
The part if the movies that really passed me off if what happens to the elder wand. In the book, he uses it to repair his wand, which I think shows a desire to simply be himself and that he has no interest in power. But in the movies, he simply destroys the elder ward.
Actually, on balance it probably was better that he destroyed it rather than returning it to Dumbledore's grave, because in the book he said that if he died a natural death without being defeated then its power would die with him, but as he was planning to become an Auror that was a VERY big 'if'!
“Thank God for the books” 😂😂😂 indeed. I just did an HP marathon with someone who’s never watched any of them and I had to keep pausing and explaining everything from the books because the movies were such a mess 😂
I've always wondered if there was an Australian/Oceanic wizarding community/school. I know there's an Australian quiditch team, but I think that's the only other reference to Australia in the series. Always thought that it makes sense for a majority of Australia's magical creatures to have already been discovered by aussie muggles, since the world already thinks our animals are fairly odd.
I believe jk briefly mentioned there is a aussie school but dont hold me to that she certainly said theres more wizarding schools out there then the ones she has mentioned Edit just looked it up jk said there is a Australian school and she will reveal it soon
I feel like Hermione would've told her parents what she was going to do before she did it. She's going to bury all of their memories of her anyway, so there's no real harm in being upfront about how and why. If the Death Eaters already know who her parents are and can find them, her charm isn't going to stop them from killing them; all it will do is give them extra security and make them harder to find, and prevent them from risking themselves to find her.
To be fair, Jason Isaacs improvised trying to use Avada Kedavra, just saying the first spell that came into his head, so you can't really blame the screenwriters for that
@@CHLOCHLOLP The corrupt Ministry? Maybe only an isolated memory involving a Muggle seeing magic. Not erasing someone's entire memory of their child. But even that I'm not totally ok with.
@@jdeljones how else are they supposed to maintain the statute of secrecy? Obliviate isn't necessarily malicious unless you use in in a way like movie Hermione did
I'm currently writing a fanfic that is called With the Parents of My Enemy and while it is a post war dramione fic, i focus heavily on Hermione restoring her parents based on the film adaptation of the oblivate. I created a "total recall" spell that she actually practices on St Mungo resident Gilderoy Lockhart first and actually restores his memory though he's still in the hospital until the Wizengamot can decide what to do with him. I felt that the Grangers deserved to be more than just a prop and have given them personality and presence in the story. It's still a WIP but i update it regularly as it's my passion project.
I was already aware that Hermione actually used a false memory spell on her parents rather than the Memory Charm. However, I’ve never thought about how the Grangers would react after Hermione returned their memories.
I always felt the memories of her with her parents were stored in a alternate dimension and slowly would come back to them when the counter spell was found.
There’s a theory that Matilda Wormwood and Hermione the same person. It goes as follows: Matilda Hermione Wormwood does magic under stress, like with the Trunchbull’s drinking glass. When she gets adopted by Miss Honey, she renamed herself Hermione Jean Honey And becomes a stickler for the rules. Miss Honey goes to a night school for dentists, where she meets and falls in love with Mr Granger, whom she marries. Soon after, a witch by the name of Minerva McGonagall arrives and the rest is Harry Potter.
Can you do a video on what would happen if Remus had taken his potion the night of the Shrieking Shack incident? How would Fudge have reacted? How would Fudge have handled it? Would Peter have been able to escape (either due to the Ministry’s incompetence or Fudge trying to cover up a major mishap that could spell disaster for the Ministry) and still bring back Voldemort? If not, how would that change the timeline and the Second Wizarding War? If Peter hadn’t escaped, how would that impact the Trio in Malfoy Manor?
I think Hermione did what she did with her parents because she loved them. Her home had been a loving one Arthur wasn't the only good Dad in the series. There was also Mr. Granger. For Hermione what she did was the easier choice. They would not be hurt and could be retrieved and she didn't survive they would have lived comfortable lives in Australia.
I don’t think erasing her parents memory would stop the death eaters from torturing and killing them anyway.. if they knew who her parents were already.
Exactly. Particularly since a memory charm can be broken under torture as Voldemort proofed when he tortured Bertha Jorkins and became aware that Barty Crouch junior was free.
@@patrickdematosribeiro1845 Having said which, I don't think it's ever mentioned in the films that Memory Charms can be broken, so it sort of still works!
I’ve always thought that Hermione‘s parents must’ve had another child while in Australia. Even though they would have no memory of Hermione they would certainly feel that they have lost some thing and desire children so why wouldn’t they just have another to attempt to fill that void? Hermione almost certainly would’ve had a sibling once she track down her parents.
That’s a cool idea! But I can’t help but think that, if they had a girl, they would’ve named her Hermione again 😅 ‘Hermione: Mum, Dad… Wh-who’s this? Her Mum: This is Hermione, your sister! Hermione: But I’m- Her Dad: You’re now called Samantha. Hermione: Hey, that’s not fair! Her Mum: Well neither was giving us false memories for a year, Samantha!’ XD
In the book I guessing she walk in with wand changed her parents' memories without a temptation. You just don't that in movies. They try us spells you say out yelled. People that read the books is really hard put on other people shoes.
I think it’s being too critical and purist to say the movies “got it wrong” in this instance and I’d attribute it more to the fact that that we’re dealing with two different formats of media here. Film is delivered by things you can see not just information you read like a book, and a scene where Hermione exposits what she did to her parents would work _fine_ but the key rule in film is “show, don’t tell.” We know what obliviate is, and we can clearly see what’s happening as it shows us just how much Hermione is willing to sacrifice to keep them safe without using any words to do it, but just through watching her memories literally disappear before her eyes. Yes, the book’s explanation is superior because it can be more detailed, but that’s what books are for and movie scenes that are 100% adaptations of some book scenes just don’t work at all. I don’t think this was due to laziness on the part of the writers and director but a conscious creative choice to simplify this scene to a spell we already know rather than explaining a new one, and also taking the opportunity to showcase how emotional this was for Hermione and the impact that the war was having on people besides just Harry ina way that fit better with a visual medium.
Plus she doesn't say anything in the film about reversing the spell if she survives, nor about not having done a Memory Charm before, so it still works!
@@briesullivan883 Does that tiny difference really matter? Plus, I found that change to be more emotionally powerful here since she was obviously going to have reminders of what she had to do to her parents when having to repeat the spell again, which would obviously be traumatic for her even if Harry and Ron wouldn’t know that, which is only something you can really communicate in a visual medium without spelling it out explicitly.
You have to take the movies and the books as two different perspectives on the same thing there's a logical reason why they had Hermione obliviate her parents because they'd already established the spell in chamber of secrets and it gave the decision much more weight because of its permanency which better illustrated the sacrifices they were willing to go to to defeat Voldemort a casual viewer having not read the books would not understand the difference between a mind-altering spell and a memory erasing spell so it was simpler and carried more weight visually for the story
@@Inkyminkyzizwoz seriously just STFU. the only thing you can get out of my comment is my lack of punctuation this isn't a term paper it's the comment section of a TH-cam video get off your high horse bastard
@@markadams1165 Well, it is! Even on TH-cam, not doing something as basic as that can at best make messages very difficult to understand and at worst completely alter their meaning, like this: Charles I walked and talked half an hour after his head was cut off. Charles I walked and talked. Half an hour after, his head was cut off. See?
The Lucius almost killing Harry and the obliviate scene are some of the things that definitely annoy me the most about the film adaptations. They could so easily have been avoided!
Like in other fictions and rl, sometimes its the child who MUST protect their parents. Here’s a vampire 🧛🏻♂ vid idea, it’s not with the chronicles or Twilight, it’s with Charmed. All vampires there have a queen 👸🏼, and when she dies 💀, the whole clan does.
They didn't 'get it wrong', they just did it differently. She doesn't say anything in the film about reversing the spell if she survives, nor that she hasn't done a Memory Charm before, so it still works!
Thank you for pointing out Dean what happened to Hermione's parents in the book versus the movie. Things now make more sense. It has definitely been far too long since I have read the books.
I'm a little worried about the Secrets Of Dumbledore trailer with Grindelwald talking about a war on muggles. The thing that made Grindelwald interesting in COG was that he didn't want to wipe them out, and he wanted to use them for what he believed they were good for. If they abandon that angle in favour of him becoming a muggle murdering psychopath, then they run the risk of taking away what stopped people from comparing him to you know who. Until now Grindelwald stood out as another great villain on his own merits and motivations. So I hope I'm wrong and the impression I got from the trailer was just misleading
I said this in the original video and I'll say it again: The movie may have messed up what actually happened, but an explanation of what happened to them in the movie canon is not unsalvagable. My interpretation is that the movie makers decided to just combine all of the possible memory charms into the one spell for the sake of simplicity, so obliviate is actually a multi-functional charm that produces different results depending on intent, circumstances and how much power was put into it. Think about it; the last time casual movie watchers would have seen obliviate in action prior to the fantastic beast movies was Lockhart's botched attempt on Ron and Harry, which obvious went very, _very_ wrong. So why wouldn't we expect more varied results from someone who not only knows what they're doing, but casts it with a wand that actually works properly?
The movie's approach is better in my opinion. Using obliviate gave the act more weight, showing the sacrifices they had to go through. As a parent that was the toughest scene for me in the movies. It's better storytelling than her sending her parents off to Australia and then pressing "undo" later on. Sometimes changes in movies are for the better.
If my daughter erased/alter my memories and gave me a new life, I would be upset about what she did. I wouldn't be too upset at her because she did it with good intentions and to keep them safe. I would take into consideration that my child went through an entire war, fought against evil and stop the world from being destroyed. She gave me a safe a good life. I would drop my feelings and be there for my child even if I'm upset with the situation.
The way they portrayed Hermione's actions with her parents in the movie always bothered me, and I never felt it fit with the way it was portrayed in the book . The movie made it feel more serious, sad, and permanent, whereas Hermione made it clear in the book that, if she survived, she would track her parents down after the second wizarding war was over and remove the spell. Also, that the directors/scriptwriters showed her actions in the movie but not the book (ie, Hermione only mentions what she did to her parents in the book) made her actions seem more drastic than they were..
You know what I'd like to know What are the other Wizarding schools House Names Like in Beauxbatons, Durmstrang, Uagadou, Castelobruxo, Mahoutokoro, Koldovstoretz And who were the founders
What is Lucius really trying to use the Avada Kedavra!? On Harry? I took it as he was trying to kill Dobby for betraying him for excepting the sock from Harry. Anyway that’s just what I got from that scene.
I didn’t realize She was unjustifiably fired. Warner Bro is known for Inconsistencies with Characters by unjustified firing People except Vincent Crabbe and Albus Dumbledore all rest is unjustified.
It still works though, because she doesn't say anything in the film about reversing the spell if she survives, nor having not done a Memory Charm before
How did Hermione's parents get past the airport security and Australian immigration and all that stuff? Did Hermione also create a bunch of false legal documents that were enough to convince the British and Australian Muggle authorities?
Why did Hermione have to take a plane to Australia? Couldn't she have been able to just apparate there? Portrays a very talented witch in both the books and the movies. Huge fan of the series but I must admit, there was a lapse between when I read the books and when I saw the movies so never noticed the huge differences that you mention in your videos. When I first got the books as they came out, I devoured them, LOL. Unfortunately, all my books were destroyed due to a roof leak during a hurricane or I would probably read them again. Keep it up, I enjoy your videos mate!
Wizards can only apparate a certain distance, Australia is too far from England. When Dean says travel, the plane seemed like a little joke to me. (She might have applied for a port key; "travel" could be taken a few different ways in the wizarding world.)
@@LovemyDrones I learned about apparation's limits from a Super Carlin Bros video. I *believe* that port keys and floo powder are further reaching. At least I know port keys are, they can be enchanted to take people to a specific place, like Scotland to Brazil (such as I think we see in the trailer for Secrets of Dumbledore). I'm not sure if floo powder has any other weaknesses besides pronunciation (like distance) - maybe/hopefully someone more knowledgeable could answer this.
This is interesting, but if we would of known about any extra stuff for knowledge then JK should have added them back in the last book which is Harry Potter & The Cursed Child so that being said means and is clear indication that what’s said in the video could be wrong it could just be someone saying like it be nice if she brought back their memories but what if she didn’t I mean if she did a cloaking spell instead then why not just do the memory charm to whipped their minds thinking they had a kid but didn’t the next but it does beg the question weather or not if she knew she Should have done it earlier in her earlier yrs before leading up to her 7th year I mean she knew Harry was in danger even though they remained close as friends but if that’s the case then she should have whipped their minds long ago I’d say she should have done it in her 4, 5, 6, year but I think the earlier the better I’d say: her 5 year because that’s when things we’re getting to be more dangerous for Harry and the rest of friends too not to mention Hermione as well.
Am I the only one who doesn’t get worked up about the differences between the books and movies? Like at all, I genuinely do not get any form of upset. Maybe I’m just living up to my Hufflepuff status, but I’m in love with any form of media given to me even the most controversial for others.
I like to think that Hermione restored her parents' memories once everything was safe again. Plus, I never realised that Catelyn Stark, AKA Michelle Fairley, was Hermione's mother in the seventh film, having replaced another actress from the second movie.
I didn’t realize She was unjustifiably fired.
Warner Bro is known for Inconsistencies with Characters by unjustified firing People except Vincent Crabbe and Albus Dumbledore all rest is unjustified.
Hey
Of course she did. There's no reason she wouldn't.
@@horrorgamer5255 why did the actor who plays Dumbledore get fired?
The film didn't really get it 'wrong' as such, because it also didn't include Hermione's line about tracking her parents down and reversing the spell if she survives, nor her saying that she hasn't done a Memory Charm before, so it still works
Movies can never be the same as books, a lot of us understand that... but using obliviate was strange after reading the canon version because it's impossible to reverse that spell.
@@borreliaetc my thoughts exactly
The part if the movies that really passed me off if what happens to the elder wand. In the book, he uses it to repair his wand, which I think shows a desire to simply be himself and that he has no interest in power. But in the movies, he simply destroys the elder ward.
Actually, on balance it probably was better that he destroyed it rather than returning it to Dumbledore's grave, because in the book he said that if he died a natural death without being defeated then its power would die with him, but as he was planning to become an Auror that was a VERY big 'if'!
This bothered me, too. Fix your own damn wand, Harry!
@@savannahshane2231 Well, he may have done so off screen
@@Inkyminkyzizwoz lol
“Thank God for the books” 😂😂😂 indeed. I just did an HP marathon with someone who’s never watched any of them and I had to keep pausing and explaining everything from the books because the movies were such a mess 😂
I've always wondered if there was an Australian/Oceanic wizarding community/school. I know there's an Australian quiditch team, but I think that's the only other reference to Australia in the series. Always thought that it makes sense for a majority of Australia's magical creatures to have already been discovered by aussie muggles, since the world already thinks our animals are fairly odd.
I actually wrote a short story in an English class on a magical organization in Australia, based off HP
@@miss.scales7159 is your story available online for reading by chance?
I wonder the same, us Aussies don't get noticed too much in the magical community lol
Yesss haha, we’ve got some weird af creatures.
I believe jk briefly mentioned there is a aussie school but dont hold me to that she certainly said theres more wizarding schools out there then the ones she has mentioned
Edit just looked it up jk said there is a Australian school and she will reveal it soon
Dude?! That was always one of the many creepiest scene to me, when she's just taking her parents memory like that..
I feel like Hermione would've told her parents what she was going to do before she did it. She's going to bury all of their memories of her anyway, so there's no real harm in being upfront about how and why. If the Death Eaters already know who her parents are and can find them, her charm isn't going to stop them from killing them; all it will do is give them extra security and make them harder to find, and prevent them from risking themselves to find her.
To be fair, Jason Isaacs improvised trying to use Avada Kedavra, just saying the first spell that came into his head, so you can't really blame the screenwriters for that
Good point
I understand Hermoine's noble intentions, but I think Obliviate should be on the unforgivable list.
Would that make Lockhart a Dark Wizard?
well the ministry uses obliviate on muggles all the time so they cant really ban that one.
@@CHLOCHLOLP That's what I was thinking!
@@CHLOCHLOLP The corrupt Ministry? Maybe only an isolated memory involving a Muggle seeing magic. Not erasing someone's entire memory of their child. But even that I'm not totally ok with.
@@jdeljones how else are they supposed to maintain the statute of secrecy? Obliviate isn't necessarily malicious unless you use in in a way like movie Hermione did
I'm currently writing a fanfic that is called With the Parents of My Enemy and while it is a post war dramione fic, i focus heavily on Hermione restoring her parents based on the film adaptation of the oblivate.
I created a "total recall" spell that she actually practices on St Mungo resident Gilderoy Lockhart first and actually restores his memory though he's still in the hospital until the Wizengamot can decide what to do with him.
I felt that the Grangers deserved to be more than just a prop and have given them personality and presence in the story. It's still a WIP but i update it regularly as it's my passion project.
I was already aware that Hermione actually used a false memory spell on her parents rather than the Memory Charm. However, I’ve never thought about how the Grangers would react after Hermione returned their memories.
quite funny that i LITERALLY asked this question YESTERDAY and now you drop this video
I always felt the memories of her with her parents were stored in a alternate dimension and slowly would come back to them when the counter spell was found.
There’s a theory that Matilda Wormwood and Hermione the same person. It goes as follows:
Matilda Hermione Wormwood does magic under stress, like with the Trunchbull’s drinking glass.
When she gets adopted by Miss Honey, she renamed herself Hermione Jean Honey And becomes a stickler for the rules. Miss Honey goes to a night school for dentists, where she meets and falls in love with Mr Granger, whom she marries.
Soon after, a witch by the name of Minerva McGonagall arrives and the rest is Harry Potter.
That’s kinda cool
Can you do a video on what would happen if Remus had taken his potion the night of the Shrieking Shack incident? How would Fudge have reacted? How would Fudge have handled it? Would Peter have been able to escape (either due to the Ministry’s incompetence or Fudge trying to cover up a major mishap that could spell disaster for the Ministry) and still bring back Voldemort? If not, how would that change the timeline and the Second Wizarding War? If Peter hadn’t escaped, how would that impact the Trio in Malfoy Manor?
I think Hermione did what she did with her parents because she loved them. Her home had been a loving one Arthur wasn't the only good Dad in the series. There was also Mr. Granger.
For Hermione what she did was the easier choice. They would not be hurt and could be retrieved and she didn't survive they would have lived comfortable lives in Australia.
The movie messed her mom up good...made her think she was Catelyn Stark.
Wait, if Harry got the Dursley's protection from powerful Wizards, couldn't Hermione have put her parents into hiding with some trusted Wizards?
She never reversed it. She knew her parents would be mortified to learn that their daughter married Ron.
My mom would've appreciated being under a spell. I was admitted to the hospital and didn't tell her for 2 days.
Her parents would be wary of her going forward because how could they trust that Hermione wouldn't do it again.
I don’t think erasing her parents memory would stop the death eaters from torturing and killing them anyway.. if they knew who her parents were already.
Exactly. Particularly since a memory charm can be broken under torture as Voldemort proofed when he tortured Bertha Jorkins and became aware that Barty Crouch junior was free.
@@patrickdematosribeiro1845 Hence why she sent them to Australia
@@Inkyminkyzizwoz Yes and for this reason it would have made sense to show this in the movies.
@@patrickdematosribeiro1845 true m I forgot about that
@@patrickdematosribeiro1845 Having said which, I don't think it's ever mentioned in the films that Memory Charms can be broken, so it sort of still works!
I’ve always thought that Hermione‘s parents must’ve had another child while in Australia. Even though they would have no memory of Hermione they would certainly feel that they have lost some thing and desire children so why wouldn’t they just have another to attempt to fill that void? Hermione almost certainly would’ve had a sibling once she track down her parents.
That’s a cool idea! But I can’t help but think that, if they had a girl, they would’ve named her Hermione again 😅
‘Hermione: Mum, Dad… Wh-who’s this?
Her Mum: This is Hermione, your sister!
Hermione: But I’m-
Her Dad: You’re now called Samantha.
Hermione: Hey, that’s not fair!
Her Mum: Well neither was giving us false memories for a year, Samantha!’
XD
In the book I guessing she walk in with wand changed her parents' memories without a temptation. You just don't that in movies. They try us spells you say out yelled. People that read the books is really hard put on other people shoes.
I never thought that Hermione was completely honest with her parents about the danger she was in.
I cried when she erased her parents memories
Sure was a hard task, especially with altering memories to protect her loved ones.
I think it’s being too critical and purist to say the movies “got it wrong” in this instance and I’d attribute it more to the fact that that we’re dealing with two different formats of media here.
Film is delivered by things you can see not just information you read like a book, and a scene where Hermione exposits what she did to her parents would work _fine_ but the key rule in film is “show, don’t tell.” We know what obliviate is, and we can clearly see what’s happening as it shows us just how much Hermione is willing to sacrifice to keep them safe without using any words to do it, but just through watching her memories literally disappear before her eyes.
Yes, the book’s explanation is superior because it can be more detailed, but that’s what books are for and movie scenes that are 100% adaptations of some book scenes just don’t work at all. I don’t think this was due to laziness on the part of the writers and director but a conscious creative choice to simplify this scene to a spell we already know rather than explaining a new one, and also taking the opportunity to showcase how emotional this was for Hermione and the impact that the war was having on people besides just Harry ina way that fit better with a visual medium.
Plus she doesn't say anything in the film about reversing the spell if she survives, nor about not having done a Memory Charm before, so it still works!
The movies did get it wrong because obliviating the DEs in the cafe was supposed to be her first time doing that spell.
@@briesullivan883 As I said, she doesn't say in the cafe that she hasn't done it before!
@@briesullivan883 Does that tiny difference really matter? Plus, I found that change to be more emotionally powerful here since she was obviously going to have reminders of what she had to do to her parents when having to repeat the spell again, which would obviously be traumatic for her even if Harry and Ron wouldn’t know that, which is only something you can really communicate in a visual medium without spelling it out explicitly.
@@Longshanks1690 it matters because it means that parents’ memories of her are permanently gone as opposed to something Hermione can change back.
You have to take the movies and the books as two different perspectives on the same thing there's a logical reason why they had Hermione obliviate her parents because they'd already established the spell in chamber of secrets and it gave the decision much more weight because of its permanency which better illustrated the sacrifices they were willing to go to to defeat Voldemort a casual viewer having not read the books would not understand the difference between a mind-altering spell and a memory erasing spell so it was simpler and carried more weight visually for the story
AARGH! Use some punctuation!
@@Inkyminkyzizwoz seriously just STFU. the only thing you can get out of my comment is my lack of punctuation this isn't a term paper it's the comment section of a TH-cam video get off your high horse bastard
@@markadams1165 But punctuation is IMPORTANT - it indicates where one sentence ends and another begins, just as spaces do for words!
@@Inkyminkyzizwoz well good for you I hope the small sense of superiority you get from correcting someone's grammar helps you sleep at night
@@markadams1165 Well, it is! Even on TH-cam, not doing something as basic as that can at best make messages very difficult to understand and at worst completely alter their meaning, like this:
Charles I walked and talked half an hour after his head was cut off.
Charles I walked and talked. Half an hour after, his head was cut off.
See?
The Lucius almost killing Harry and the obliviate scene are some of the things that definitely annoy me the most about the film adaptations. They could so easily have been avoided!
Like in other fictions and rl, sometimes its the child who MUST protect their parents. Here’s a vampire 🧛🏻♂ vid idea, it’s not with the chronicles or Twilight, it’s with Charmed. All vampires there have a queen 👸🏼, and when she dies 💀, the whole clan does.
1:46 Which is why Harry broke up with Ginny in the books (you mentioned things the movies got wrong).
They didn't 'get it wrong', they just did it differently. She doesn't say anything in the film about reversing the spell if she survives, nor that she hasn't done a Memory Charm before, so it still works!
Thank you for pointing out Dean what happened to Hermione's parents
in the book versus the movie. Things now make more sense.
It has definitely been far too long since I have read the books.
I'm a little worried about the Secrets Of Dumbledore trailer with Grindelwald talking about a war on muggles. The thing that made Grindelwald interesting in COG was that he didn't want to wipe them out, and he wanted to use them for what he believed they were good for. If they abandon that angle in favour of him becoming a muggle murdering psychopath, then they run the risk of taking away what stopped people from comparing him to you know who. Until now Grindelwald stood out as another great villain on his own merits and motivations. So I hope I'm wrong and the impression I got from the trailer was just misleading
I said this in the original video and I'll say it again: The movie may have messed up what actually happened, but an explanation of what happened to them in the movie canon is not unsalvagable. My interpretation is that the movie makers decided to just combine all of the possible memory charms into the one spell for the sake of simplicity, so obliviate is actually a multi-functional charm that produces different results depending on intent, circumstances and how much power was put into it.
Think about it; the last time casual movie watchers would have seen obliviate in action prior to the fantastic beast movies was Lockhart's botched attempt on Ron and Harry, which obvious went very, _very_ wrong. So why wouldn't we expect more varied results from someone who not only knows what they're doing, but casts it with a wand that actually works properly?
Luscious forgot his lines and couldn't think of any other spells and avada cadra was the first thing that came to mind
The movie's approach is better in my opinion. Using obliviate gave the act more weight, showing the sacrifices they had to go through. As a parent that was the toughest scene for me in the movies. It's better storytelling than her sending her parents off to Australia and then pressing "undo" later on.
Sometimes changes in movies are for the better.
I guess the movie universe is probably more darker then the book universe
Thank you!! That scene always bothered me in the movie, especially since the doesn't use it on the young muggle woman in the diner!! ☺️👏🏻
If my daughter erased/alter my memories and gave me a new life, I would be upset about what she did. I wouldn't be too upset at her because she did it with good intentions and to keep them safe. I would take into consideration that my child went through an entire war, fought against evil and stop the world from being destroyed. She gave me a safe a good life. I would drop my feelings and be there for my child even if I'm upset with the situation.
Pretty sure she did in the movie off screen.
The way they portrayed Hermione's actions with her parents in the movie always bothered me, and I never felt it fit with the way it was portrayed in the book . The movie made it feel more serious, sad, and permanent, whereas Hermione made it clear in the book that, if she survived, she would track her parents down after the second wizarding war was over and remove the spell. Also, that the directors/scriptwriters showed her actions in the movie but not the book (ie, Hermione only mentions what she did to her parents in the book) made her actions seem more drastic than they were..
To be honest. .. I think they used obliviate to give the movie a more dramatic effect. I hope they remember her one day.
You know what I'd like to know
What are the other Wizarding schools House Names
Like in Beauxbatons, Durmstrang, Uagadou, Castelobruxo, Mahoutokoro, Koldovstoretz
And who were the founders
I wonder what Hermione talked about or did with her parents and muggle friends when she wasn't at Hogwarts. What other interests did she have?
Squibs are the reason for "Muggle Borns" then who was Hermiones ancestor thatvwas a Witch?
What is Lucius really trying to use the Avada Kedavra!? On Harry? I took it as he was trying to kill Dobby for betraying him for excepting the sock from Harry. Anyway that’s just what I got from that scene.
*accepting
@@Inkyminkyzizwoz lol talk to text is supposed to auto correct. Lol .
Strike one: grammar police 👮😅
@@jnmwtkns Ever heard of PROOFREADING? You don't have to just blindly stick with the first thing it comes up with!
I didn’t realize She was unjustifiably fired.
Warner Bro is known for Inconsistencies with Characters by unjustified firing People except Vincent Crabbe and Albus Dumbledore all rest is unjustified.
Yes! Ann upload from Dean 💜🖤 I'm there 🥰
I remember sitting in the theater thinking no this not correct with Hermione’s scene.
It still works though, because she doesn't say anything in the film about reversing the spell if she survives, nor having not done a Memory Charm before
How did Hermione's parents get past the airport security and Australian immigration and all that stuff? Did Hermione also create a bunch of false legal documents that were enough to convince the British and Australian Muggle authorities?
Lmao her parents are in a covid concentration camp
Why did Hermione have to take a plane to Australia? Couldn't she have been able to just apparate there? Portrays a very talented witch in both the books and the movies. Huge fan of the series but I must admit, there was a lapse between when I read the books and when I saw the movies so never noticed the huge differences that you mention in your videos. When I first got the books as they came out, I devoured them, LOL. Unfortunately, all my books were destroyed due to a roof leak during a hurricane or I would probably read them again. Keep it up, I enjoy your videos mate!
Wizards can only apparate a certain distance, Australia is too far from England.
When Dean says travel, the plane seemed like a little joke to me. (She might have applied for a port key; "travel" could be taken a few different ways in the wizarding world.)
Ps -really sorry to hear about the hurricane in your past!
@@borreliaetc I did not know about the range, LOL. I wonder how far a Portkey or Flu powder can go?
@@LovemyDrones I learned about apparation's limits from a Super Carlin Bros video.
I *believe* that port keys and floo powder are further reaching. At least I know port keys are, they can be enchanted to take people to a specific place, like Scotland to Brazil (such as I think we see in the trailer for Secrets of Dumbledore).
I'm not sure if floo powder has any other weaknesses besides pronunciation (like distance) - maybe/hopefully someone more knowledgeable could answer this.
Apparition becomes increasingly difficult over long distances
How about people who knew them? Wouldn't they be reported as missing?
Stupid question but why no protection like the durseys
This is interesting, but if we would of known about any extra stuff for knowledge then JK should have added them back in the last book which is Harry Potter & The Cursed Child so that being said means and is clear indication that what’s said in the video could be wrong it could just be someone saying like it be nice if she brought back their memories but what if she didn’t I mean if she did a cloaking spell instead then why not just do the memory charm to whipped their minds thinking they had a kid but didn’t the next but it does beg the question weather or not if she knew she Should have done it earlier in her earlier yrs before leading up to her 7th year I mean she knew Harry was in danger even though they remained close as friends but if that’s the case then she should have whipped their minds long ago I’d say she should have done it in her 4, 5, 6, year but I think the earlier the better I’d say: her 5 year because that’s when things we’re getting to be more dangerous for Harry and the rest of friends too not to mention Hermione as well.
*would have
It's ok, I hear Mrs. Granger took on the name Catlyn Stark and moved to some place called Winterfell.
I'm sure nothing bad can.....
....oh.
Whoops.
nice video
wait...didn't you do a similar video? (haven't watched this one yet, maybe I'll withdraw my question later)
What if Hermione didn’t False memory charm on her parents unlike Canon?
Am I the only one who doesn’t get worked up about the differences between the books and movies? Like at all, I genuinely do not get any form of upset. Maybe I’m just living up to my Hufflepuff status, but I’m in love with any form of media given to me even the most controversial for others.
Thats why I don't like the movies, because they get most things wrong! If I was J.K. I wudnt want so many changes 2 my work!!!
But they didn't really get this 'wrong', because she doesn't say anything about reversing the spell if she survives, so it still works!
They wouldn't like there grandchildren
*their
J. K. Rowling said they did.
Makes sense, false ID Charms
What if potters return
The only 2 movies that were correct were the first 2 done by Chris Columbus.
What do you mean, 'correct'?
Turning off comments on your opinion piece on JK Rowlings is cancel culture at its finest. Very disappointing Dean.
They really didn't do this right
Except she doesn't say anything in the film about reversing the spell if she survives, nor having not done a Memory Charm before, so it still works!
IM SO EARLY OMG
JK Rowling predicting her own erasure?
bruh
Bingo