Sorry, This is very outdated. I did a quick 15 minutes research to address if this is true and came to the conclusion that it isnt. This is an outdated form of dog training and isn't backed up by evidence. "Contemporary research (e.g., from the AVSAB) has debunked the idea that dogs behave based on hierarchical dominance. Instead, most behavior issues arise from improper training, lack of consistency, or unmet needs." "The use of dominance training has fallen out of favor, as positive punishment can instill fear, anxiety, aggression, and mistrust in a dog. Training in this manner can also damage the bond between a pooch and their pet parent. For these reasons, many canine experts consider the method to be antiquated." Source: RSPCA's View on Dominance Dog Training: PubMed - "Does training method matter? Evidence for the negative impact of aversive-based methods on companion
Outdated? Beckman and other trainers using the same methods are actually out in the trenches fixing dog issues. The RSPCA aren't. Find a single example of a dominant (or strong minded if you don't like the word dominant) dog that the RSPCA have fixed.....
@@RickJuly You have been misled. AVSAB and other behavioral institutions claim David Mech took back his assertions about dominance and "alpha theory" and this is NOT true. I have two videos on my channel which show David Mech's actual claims about dominance and what he corrected when it came to alpha theory. Please go look at his actual work.
Sounds like AVSAB is compromised of people that think you should try to have a conversation and reason with their 4 year old that's throwing a fit because they don't want to leave the McDonald's ball pit.
@@RickJuly there are actual scientific studies which demonstrate that dogs form dominance hierarchies just like wolves from different groups, and if you read the AVSAB statement, they clearly say that their position is based on survey studies, not actual scientific analysis
The reality is the dogs that receive this leadership structure and discipline are much more content and less stressed out and anxiety ridden then the dogs that don’t.
100% true. And yet those positive only people call us animal abusers while it's them who leave their dogs alonwäe with their problems and turn them into anxious, nervous dogs who are stressed and high on cortisol all the time as they can't trust their weak owner. I'm a woman but I don't agree with the current nonsense. I had many owners call me an abuser simply because my dogs were passing their out of control dog completely calm and relaxed. They said I don't let my dogs express their feelings. Well, my dogs are calm and happy and trust me and theirs are a threat to society and stressed and not happy so 🤷🏼♀️ and trust me, they don't want my Akita and white GSD to "express their feelings" on their tiny rats on leashes 😂😂😂
It's what Cesar Millan always says - you have to be calm and assertive. If you're any other kind of attitude or behaviour , your dog will react accordingly. If you're nervous, the dog will become more nervous and then will become protective over you and reactive towards others. It's all about being confident, calm and assertive.
Thank you so much for your professional advise. I also am a dog trainer (people train) and the increase of owners that think a leash correction, raising your voice, etc is cruel. It’s frustrating because I KNOW their dogs don’t respect the weakness in their owners. I appreciate your video.
@@KateTsingtaoexactly. Mama dog don’t tolerate any nonsense! ❤ Because she loves them and understands that a lack of discipline causes problems in the pack
Oh Joel, you're a gem. It is an attitude, and unfortunately for everyone who doesn't have it it's probably impossible to understand. Thank you for the continued help and dogged pursuit of common sense. Much love and appreciation x
Dogs need leadership not push over, 100% true. They feel much safer with a clear leader. My husband is a lot softer to our dog, she only listens to me 😊. I use me as the primary trainer, there is always consequences if she doesn’t do correctly, I always win 😂. It takes a lot of repetition, patience and perseverance. I love Joel, he is absolutely the best dog trainer on utube. Look at Prince, absolutely top notch, well behaved, confident dog. I learn everything from Joel’s videos since I got my puppy. It has not been easy but his methods and explanations are spot on. ❤❤❤Thank you so much!
My fiance gets on me a lot because I'm being too firm with her but I dont have the issues with our dog that she does. Too many people are absolute pushovers with their dogs.
Yuuupppp and it’s normally women who struggle with this the most. We’re too empathetic for our own good at times 🥲 it took me years to learn this. Then I came to understand that being firm is actually the kindest thing to do! 💪
My sis hated that I could control her lab/boxer mix. Amazing what actually working and being consistent with an animal can do for their long term behaviors. But she’d rather stick to screaming at the dog to shut up or at her husband “WHERES HER REMOTE”, meaning the shock collar remote.
@@dogzentrainingbeing a woman myself, I am personally very firm with dogs. A friend of mine told me in the beginning I was to firm. Both our dogs are approximately the same age. My dog doesn't pull, can be off leash, has a great recall. Her dog doesn't. And nowadays she says she should've been more firm and now has to deal with a 2 year old, prey-driven, leash pulling dog every day. My dog isn't perfect but he is very well manageable. I taught my sister too to be firm and boy does she can get firm. She once met a woman who had a big water spaniel who bragged on and on that her dog would never go with an stranger because he loves her sooo much and told my sister to try. My sister took the lead, looked at the dog, said firmly "come" and went away with the dog at her heel. The owner was so pissed at the poor dog.... Love is important yes. But so are structure and discipline.
I saw this same thing happen live. Everytime our puppy jumps on us, she gets a Beckman knee and we ignore her until she calms down. I brought her to my parents and she tried jumping on my dad. She wanted to test boundaries and she found out he won't let her get away with it either. She didn't try it a second time.
I love your videos. "You might not like it. I don't care." That's how you need to react to certain people when they say you're doing too much or that you're being mean.
I thought you stopped making videos Joel. You weren't showing up on my subscriber list. I'm glad you're still here. Is the pod gone for good? I've learned so much from you. My adopted GSD is helping me recover from lung cancer surgery. I couldn't have trained her to be so helpful without you. THANK YOU!
I just want to say a big THANK YOU, Joel, for your Videos. My life with my dog completely changed since I found your channel. I learned so much from you ❤ Thank you and many greetings from Germany, where we should have more Dog Trainers like you
Good tip, “attitude” is important in life! A lot of self defense courses I’ve taken stress this. Have a strong winning attitude, be ready for life’s challenges. You’ll go further in life in general with people and dogs.
Can confirm that with "bull" dogs. You need to prove that you are stronger. Mixed with genuine love and affection. Not to make the dog afraid of you. But to gain respect. You have to really know your dog to know if this is needed.
You're SO RIGHT!! I got really angry cuz I hurt my back so I couldn't put up with ANYTHING and suddenly ALL 3 rescues started behaving like little angels. They were very good before, but I was surprised they could be so calm. You're right that I felt like I was being mean but it wasn't actually mean; it was just being very strict. Thank you sooo much I have been following you since Princey was 2 and every single vid helps!!! Please keep posting. Love to you and your family, staff and pets. 💕🙏🏽🐾
First ten seconds I agree and was just scolded for doing exactly that by family for raising my voice at a dog 😂 FYI it was my female dog who kept trying to mount another dog at a family gathering, she ignored the other dog telling her to knock it off, apparently to some its cruel and nasty to raise your voice and snap them out of a behavior 😂
If you have a stubborn dog and you are sure that he understands the command and still doesn't listen to you, then you have to be harsh so that he has respect for you. This means that you don't always have to be like that with him, it's advisable to maintain a softer tone in the long run, because basically the dog doesn't want to disappoint you. You can praise it and don't forget the bond, but the dog also has to know where your boundaries are and respect them.
You're right. I remember when I was giving away stuff that belonged to my dog who had died, at my office, and by that time I'd already adopted a new 14-month-old GoldenDoodle who would jump on anybody and everybody who came through the door. He thought he was showing love that way, because that's how he and his former owner acted. One evening a farmer-guy came to pick up some of the stuff I'd advertised on Craigslist, and the moment he came through the door, my jumping dog was INSTANTLY calm, obedient, listened, stayed down, and this guy didn't have to do a THING or say anything or be assertive or dominant or what have you. It was simply his energy. I watched it happen.
I've seen many of those "worst dogs" turn into the very best. Sending you perseverance, patience, calm energy & encouragement, for a huge reward in the long run!
Best free advice ever. Little anecdote. This summer i made friends with two buddies, we met climbing a mountain. We remained friends. 6 months later we planned a mini trip, one long weekend on a jungly scape. The land was owned by an old, sweet and loving polish woman who didn´t know one single thing about dogs. She had 5, and they acted like stupid toddlers. My friend was afraid of dogs, and the "pack leader" dog noticed. That dog literally bited my friend´s ass as he passed, not even in their territory. I inmeditaly stood up. I tensed up, pushed the dog´s personal space and growled softly, the deepest and lowest i could. The whole pack went on me showing their teeth but I held my ground. One minute of eye-to-eye showdown. When they gave up and stepped a tiny back, I ordered my friend to walk forward holding eye to eye contact. They backed down and behaved like actually kind dogs for the following days. It was extremely clear to me as well, Joel. That energy floating in the space. I simply said in dog language "i´m not putting up with this". Thanks, you´re the best in the whole youtube landspace.
When a dog at the dog park launches themselves at me it's like hitting a tree. I don't move. When I am walking my 80 lbs Staffy and he stops in front of me i walk through him and he moves.
Joel, I am 100% with you!! (Not that you need me to be😂)I learn a lot by watching your videos, but I’ve always had this strong attitude about working with dogs. I grew up working with my father in his vet clinic. I toy with the idea of becoming a dog trainer (even at the late age of 66) because it is so gratifying to fix leash reactivity, If one loves dogs, it’s difficult to see them handled in a way that makes them dangerous or difficult. The dogs suffer because of it.
Love ypur videos. Rescued a bulldog and she is the sweetest dog. Only thjng been working with is other dogs, doesn't want to play with other dogs and always seems to be sizing the other dogs up. Love the response with/for positive trainers. :)
"You're on this channel right now because it didn't work" - boom. Enough said for everyone that is quick to complain about common sense regarding how you owe it to your dog to be a responsible HANDLER and owner. Call yourself a paw parent, or whatever, but your dog needs a strong leader to follow because they're a pack animal and you owe it to them to provide them that.
Whether training kids or K9’s we can’t just love them into obedience by using only positive reinforcement. This is where Tough Love comes into play. No loving ethical parent/trainer loves to give a correction/punishment, but we know that it’s necessary so that those whom we train are successful in life, make great optimal correct choices = receive great optimal rewards.
I like to describe this energy as being the same when I walk on the soccer field ready to play the other team. I never go in soft and cuddly to score a goal. I am the captain and I will score a goal. Just like dogs, I am your pack leader and you will change on my command. Shoulders back, voice firm, no asking permission. This is how I step up to a new dog who is sizing me up. I’ve competed against 6ft tall soccer players, why would a big dog be any different. It’s all body language and energy when sizing up your opponent aka clients dog. Visual the change, then be the change. I love this stuff, could talk about it forever. Super awesome video for such an important part of being a Trainer. If you can’t believe in yourself, then don’t ask a dog to. 😂
Behavior is secondary to underlying emotion like fear You can be as firm and showing the dog that it’s not acceptable to be so afraid of other dogs that he becomes aggressive with the slightest excitement especially when he has no understanding of how to play I think my dog is an A hole sometimes he doesn’t like excitable dogs and he will go after them to get a bite I’ve tried being super tough w him and it made him worse so I started grabbing him holding him talking firmly to him but not scaring him that just made it worse we’re still working on it and I definitely need more control
In group lessons with my dog to complete CGC test, and this is 100% true. Being firm doesn't fix every issue, but it is a first step that needs to happen.
It's an animal. Take bloody charge of it - you are top of the food chain. Yes you will scare them, yes you will hurt their feelings. Just like their natural mother or father does when they step out of line. Weak people make for dangerous pets (and children) Every. Single. Time.
I met a couple once with the dog trainer I know personally. They had one of those silver lab/Weimaranian crosses. Like 10 or 11 months old. This dog was a meance. A jumper. Would even bite your sleeves if you dare ignore him. Would try to dominate every other dog. So the trainer told them to correct this behaviour with putting up their knee. They told her they can't, it would hurt the dogs feelings. DUDE YOUR DOG IS BITING AND SHAKING YOUR JACKETS SLEEVES! WAKE THE F UP! The dog was so unstable that my very calm and social schnauzer, who is smaller by a lot, had to get defensive to the point that he had the other one cornered in and kept him there until the other dog calmed down. The trainer told me that it was okay behaviour and the fog needs that because nobody ever stood up to him before, when I asked her if I should remove my dog from the situation. I've never seen him doing that before or even after this ever again. That dog was so unhinged because of it's owners doesn't taking charge it was madness.
Thank you so much Joel for all your videos and especially this one. I rescued a very difficult female Chow right before the pandemic and unfortunately due to other circumstances I didn't have the time I usually take to train and work with her. She was a nightmare! I'm so grateful you showed up on my feed and started hard core training. She's so much better. I can't thank you enough for sharing all your knowledge with us!
One word: anthropomorphic… people need to stop treating their dogs like humans and treating them like their respective species. I wouldn’t want to be treated any other way except as a human. Because I’m a human. It’s that simple.
I used to make a half a step in my dogs direction if I saw him running too close to me/us multiple times. I have small children after all. Took me 3 times to partially block is path and he learned to avoid me and everyone else by at least 25cm.
I needed to hear this because I realize that I'm a gigantic puss arse with my yellow lab/pittie mix... I thought I was just loving him and letting him be a dog and don't want any bad memories in his head but I think I'm doing worse for him being that way. He body checks, jumps up on me, doesn't really respect or listen to me like he does my husband who's always on me about all these things. He's my first official puppy that I've had since he was 4 weeks old and it's hard for me to be stern with him when needed. I know it's like a child and has to be taught - unfortunately I was a puss arse with my kids as well (doormat)... I have got to find a way to be more assertive - he's 70 pounds and strong as hell and I have a very hard time controlling him. I turn my back when he runs up to jump on me (only when I just get home from work - it's not an all day on going issue) and when he's on a leash he's yanking me around like a ragdoll. He's a very good and sweet boy - he just needs proper training and I need to step up and grow a backbone and realize discipline is not a bad thing and is not hurting him. I wish you had a video on how to train humans like me and the bad thinking. It's like I'm afraid of him not loving or liking me anymore if I discipline him or something. Idk but I'm truly glad you posted this. It's made me aware I need to change my thinking and methods. I just want him to have the happiest and funnest life ever ❤ but I want him to be good and respectful also. Taking him to the vet by myself is a complete nightmare - trying to hold onto him while filling out paperwork OMG.... I dread it 😔
I asked Nate Schoemer my mentor dog trainer and a former Marine Drill instructor which is harder training humans or dogs and he said humans by far. Marine drill instructors are all business.
As a mom of two teenage boys I can confirm that. Sooo hard to get some impulse control into our 14y old, what a pitty the treat-and-wait-procedure does not work on humans😎 I am persistent though and often rather act than debate if he „cant hear me“, slowly getting there 🤪
The only time I ever got bitten by a dog was a totally random attack in a public place. It was a farmer's sheepdog, and he was really surprised and worried that I would report the dog. He looked as surprised as I should have been. But, I had just had an argument with my mother, and there was a lot of rage in my thoughts and even back then I had an inkling that the dog was reacting to that, because it had no reason to attack me. I love dogs and dogs love me, except for that one time.
For now, I am thankful I went overboard for some things. My dog is pretty well behaved(unless play is in the question, still working on that). Might be time to dial it back a bit with the discipline and do some more play(ball) training.
If you showed up to the facility, addressed the pack as "critter fam" with dark make-up around your eyes, lots of hair products wearing a cardigan i bet the dogs would act more outta pocket.
I saw this leadership/leash thing first hand. A friend of mine had the sister of my gsd, which was far more laid back than my dog. At the dog park for the first time and the owner was nervous, and it translated to the dog. I asked for the leash and within 5 minutes the dogs demeanor changed and it was off and playing with other dogs. You need to be the leader of the pack. If not you are gonna get stepped on.
Thanks for using the best word in the title - attitude. Although on the thumbnail, I see “energy”. I think we all got into that due to Cesar Milan and likely, his misunderstanding of the language. Energy is not the right word. That’s like saying low versus high energy. Huh? So you better not be sick and exhausted or your dog will ignore you and do bad things? Wrong word. Attitude, presence, aura, etc, several better words for this. Ok, off the soapbox!
Before you even decide on which breed of dog is best for you an honest self assessment of your personality and experience level must be done so you avoid all these issues that are a result off your shortcomings. There is no shame in getting a happy go lucky dog s a best match for your personality and teaching skills.
Lifelong big dog owner. It has always been MY responsibility to make sure my dog is safe for all. Was always amazed at how reactive flaky people are about being DETERMINED as a pet owner! 😮
It doesn't make much sense does it? They'll be consistent with so many other things but not with a dog. And when it acts outta pocket , because it doesn't know what is expected they act like they just got this uncontrollable animal.
I have two hefty dogs with “bull” in their names, and you definitely have to out bulldog them by being immovable or else! They do learn to respect you if you are consistent.😂🐾🐾
Could you please do a video on dog-dog resource guarding? There’s not much out there online and I’m having quite the time despite my best efforts with my Corgi. He does NOT rg people at all. Thanks!
Basically this is a discussion about R+ (positive reinforcement) trainers and balanced trainers who follow the science of Pavlov and Skinner. There are most certainly 4 Quadrants in dog training. If you want to argue that with me, game on.
How do you get a very scared dog to listen? My dog hates the leash she runs away, even to put her outside to potty she freaks and runs away. Can’t even get her to take any food at all for any training, she’s just terrified of everything. I don’t know how to help her.
Try Calm, soft tones when speaking. Sounds like you need change her associations with things to good associations. Slow, desensitization to normal things. Find something a toy, play whatever, that you can use if she won't take treats ( maybe they smell like horribleness) try her food. Lots of variables we don't know about your dog. Look up main breeds and see what makes them tick typically?
Hey Joel, I have a 6 month old Malamute. He's brilliant! I'm mixing treats with some modest corrections and training is going well. I love your videos but its mostly older dogs. If you did some content on 6 months - 2 years I would be glued to the screen!!?
I wish it would work with my dog. Hard clap, loud voice? He couldn't care less. Correcting him by grabbing his collar and making him sit? He only gets more aroused and starts to wrestle me. The more intense I am, the more playtime it is for him. Nothing shocks him, he's not afraid of anything, he doesn't respect me. A dog like that, I will never fix using online advices. And I know, because I tried everything for the past 6 months, and I've been consistent too. I just might have the worst dog in the world.
I think Joel has a video with a big goofy Golden retriever where he talks about dogs that just kinda see everything as a big game. That's a tricky one. I feel you, though, I have a puppy that doesn't give a shit about claps/shouting and if you get physical, she gets wild and is like "I'm going to do it harder now". She doesn't like a squirt bottle. And I've had some luck redirecting her, so like instead of just saying "no, off!", it's a little more effective if I call her to me instead. Idk, man. Some dogs are really hard.
@armandhammer2235 I do that 4 to 5 times a day, everyday for the past 6 months. I'm not having walks with him, I'm having sessions. Each is 20 mins~ Playing, redirecting, obedience. But he's a very reactive Malinois, it's like banging a head against a wall. I'm not even mentioning biting my leg out of frustration... Currently he's 9 months old, hope is nowhere in sight.
@CaduceusErin Yeah, you can read my other comment where I've put in more details. I watched hundreds of hours in online training. I've never seen any dog even remotely close to my own
@cr7madrid95 9 months is the hardest time with a dog. Take a deep breath and keep going, there is a light at the end of the tunnel and you'll see that it's like someone flipped a switch. Peace.
I am not here because treats didn't work. I am here because I don't want to train with treats in the first place. I want to establish a real training. I've seen dogs being trained with treats multiple times as this is the go to method in my country. I've seen people whos dogs didn't do f when their owner ran out of treats for bribing. Positive only training CAN work but if the dog has serious issues it won't do anything most of the time.
Maybe you don't need to be yelling just yet because your dog is fearful. Be a little softer until you figure out the trauma and why your dog is "fearful" otherwise you're probably just gonna add to the dogs anxiety and end up going 2 steps back.
@rptrick79 when she's reactive towards anything (or nothing), my corrections mean nothing to her. It's as if I'm not there. After over a year with her (adopted at 5 years old), I'm 99% sure her fear is genetic. She's never really"engaged" with me. Doesn't "play". If she gets playful, she'll just grab a bone and play/chew, off by herself. Never met a dog like her. Just taking things day by day. I'd like to say that I'm going to get somewhere with her, but not confident that I will without help. DIY so far isn't getting us very far. If I can scrape up some money, I want a trainer to evaluate her, perhaps put together a game plan, and help me get my confidence back (extremely bad experience with another dog on a walk pretty much destroyed my confidence). A more experienced handler would probably be able to get a good read on her. I know I'm missing something (behavioral/body language, etc). It's me. It's never the dogs fault.
Have you been listening to Dale McCluskey? Sounds like there’s a relationship first… a power-play dynamic… maybe more about dogs, perception than responses or behaviors from the dog?🤔IMHO
With dogs this totally makes sense, and I have employed these techniques on my dogs. Does it apply to prey animals like sheep and cows too? I ended up with a fracture from a ram because the same techniques didn't seem to work, was In probably just not going hard enough to stop the behavior? (My sheep kill coyotes and stray dogs that bother them)
Dogs are uniquely evolved to be highly trainable. I’d assume it’s far more of an uphill battle with other animals even if they are domesticated. Prey animals especially are more likely to fight or flight if confronted vs the higher confidence of predator animals. There is a reason why dog is a man’s best friend. We created them that way
Blah, blah, energy, attitude. Sure, but the important issue is trust. And dominating a dog has been proven to be a failed approach. Respect and trust doesn’t mean allowing a dog to do whatever it wants, just like with kids. What a simplistic and condescending video.
No, trust is the most import issue when training big cats, bears, killer whales and trauma filled rescue dogs. The trust when you got at a young age like most people do is established in about 2 days.
Nah sorry. Trust can be a key when we talk about highly traumatised dogs. But "normal" dogs with behaviour issues from being cuddled all the time? No. Trust has nothing to do with that. Dogs aren't kids.
Sorry, This is very outdated. I did a quick 15 minutes research to address if this is true and came to the conclusion that it isnt.
This is an outdated form of dog training and isn't backed up by evidence.
"Contemporary research (e.g., from the AVSAB) has debunked the idea that dogs behave based on hierarchical dominance. Instead, most behavior issues arise from improper training, lack of consistency, or unmet needs."
"The use of dominance training has fallen out of favor, as positive punishment can instill fear, anxiety, aggression, and mistrust in a dog. Training in this manner can also damage the bond between a pooch and their pet parent. For these reasons, many canine experts consider the method to be antiquated."
Source: RSPCA's View on Dominance Dog Training:
PubMed - "Does training method matter? Evidence for the negative impact of aversive-based methods on companion
Oh AVSAB debunked it? I’d actually be embarrassed if a ivory tower academic group like them approved of my methods.
Outdated? Beckman and other trainers using the same methods are actually out in the trenches fixing dog issues. The RSPCA aren't. Find a single example of a dominant (or strong minded if you don't like the word dominant) dog that the RSPCA have fixed.....
@@RickJuly You have been misled. AVSAB and other behavioral institutions claim David Mech took back his assertions about dominance and "alpha theory" and this is NOT true.
I have two videos on my channel which show David Mech's actual claims about dominance and what he corrected when it came to alpha theory. Please go look at his actual work.
Sounds like AVSAB is compromised of people that think you should try to have a conversation and reason with their 4 year old that's throwing a fit because they don't want to leave the McDonald's ball pit.
@@RickJuly there are actual scientific studies which demonstrate that dogs form dominance hierarchies just like wolves from different groups, and if you read the AVSAB statement, they clearly say that their position is based on survey studies, not actual scientific analysis
If you were not around, the dog community would not be the same
We appreciate you sharing your knowledge and wisdom
"and you know why they do it? Because they're a-holes" 🤣🤣🤣 Love Joel
The reality is the dogs that receive this leadership structure and discipline are much more content and less stressed out and anxiety ridden then the dogs that don’t.
Very true words!
And same with kids
Yes exactly 👏🏻 despite all the “aversives cause anxiety” bollocks
100% true. And yet those positive only people call us animal abusers while it's them who leave their dogs alonwäe with their problems and turn them into anxious, nervous dogs who are stressed and high on cortisol all the time as they can't trust their weak owner. I'm a woman but I don't agree with the current nonsense. I had many owners call me an abuser simply because my dogs were passing their out of control dog completely calm and relaxed. They said I don't let my dogs express their feelings. Well, my dogs are calm and happy and trust me and theirs are a threat to society and stressed and not happy so 🤷🏼♀️ and trust me, they don't want my Akita and white GSD to "express their feelings" on their tiny rats on leashes 😂😂😂
Well said!
This is a video every dog owner and dog trainer needs to watch (just the title alone is gold)!!
It's what Cesar Millan always says - you have to be calm and assertive. If you're any other kind of attitude or behaviour , your dog will react accordingly. If you're nervous, the dog will become more nervous and then will become protective over you and reactive towards others. It's all about being confident, calm and assertive.
Thank you so much for your professional advise. I also am a dog trainer (people train) and the increase of owners that think a leash correction, raising your voice, etc is cruel. It’s frustrating because I KNOW their dogs don’t respect the weakness in their owners. I appreciate your video.
Parents correct their young all the time. Love your dogs like family but treat them like dogs. They will be happier that way. Dogs need leadership.
@ I totally agree with you!
In the same boat as you Susan 😂
@@KateTsingtaoexactly. Mama dog don’t tolerate any nonsense! ❤ Because she loves them and understands that a lack of discipline causes problems in the pack
That's one of the problems, people will just resort to saying "your abusing my animal", no it's not abuse.
You fr saved my friend's dog. I made her watch you, and damn. It's a a completely new dog.
Oh Joel, you're a gem. It is an attitude, and unfortunately for everyone who doesn't have it it's probably impossible to understand. Thank you for the continued help and dogged pursuit of common sense. Much love and appreciation x
Dogs need leadership not push over, 100% true. They feel much safer with a clear leader. My husband is a lot softer to our dog, she only listens to me 😊. I use me as the primary trainer, there is always consequences if she doesn’t do correctly, I always win 😂. It takes a lot of repetition, patience and perseverance. I love Joel, he is absolutely the best dog trainer on utube. Look at Prince, absolutely top notch, well behaved, confident dog. I learn everything from Joel’s videos since I got my puppy. It has not been easy but his methods and explanations are spot on. ❤❤❤Thank you so much!
My fiance gets on me a lot because I'm being too firm with her but I dont have the issues with our dog that she does. Too many people are absolute pushovers with their dogs.
ive noticed women are horrible when it comes to training/discipline with animals, they will ruin them all in the name of being "nice"
Yuuupppp and it’s normally women who struggle with this the most. We’re too empathetic for our own good at times 🥲 it took me years to learn this. Then I came to understand that being firm is actually the kindest thing to do! 💪
My sis hated that I could control her lab/boxer mix. Amazing what actually working and being consistent with an animal can do for their long term behaviors. But she’d rather stick to screaming at the dog to shut up or at her husband “WHERES HER REMOTE”, meaning the shock collar remote.
@@dogzentrainingbeing a woman myself, I am personally very firm with dogs.
A friend of mine told me in the beginning I was to firm.
Both our dogs are approximately the same age.
My dog doesn't pull, can be off leash, has a great recall.
Her dog doesn't.
And nowadays she says she should've been more firm and now has to deal with a 2 year old, prey-driven, leash pulling dog every day.
My dog isn't perfect but he is very well manageable.
I taught my sister too to be firm and boy does she can get firm.
She once met a woman who had a big water spaniel who bragged on and on that her dog would never go with an stranger because he loves her sooo much and told my sister to try.
My sister took the lead, looked at the dog, said firmly "come" and went away with the dog at her heel.
The owner was so pissed at the poor dog....
Love is important yes.
But so are structure and discipline.
I saw this same thing happen live. Everytime our puppy jumps on us, she gets a Beckman knee and we ignore her until she calms down. I brought her to my parents and she tried jumping on my dad. She wanted to test boundaries and she found out he won't let her get away with it either. She didn't try it a second time.
No f***'s given just damn good dog training advice, that's Joel😊❤
I love your videos. "You might not like it. I don't care." That's how you need to react to certain people when they say you're doing too much or that you're being mean.
I thought you stopped making videos Joel. You weren't showing up on my subscriber list. I'm glad you're still here. Is the pod gone for good?
I've learned so much from you. My adopted GSD is helping me recover from lung cancer surgery. I couldn't have trained her to be so helpful without you. THANK YOU!
I just want to say a big THANK YOU, Joel, for your Videos. My life with my dog completely changed since I found your channel. I learned so much from you ❤ Thank you and many greetings from Germany, where we should have more Dog Trainers like you
You just described what a good teacher or coach does...You are either teaching the behavior, or you are allowing it to happen.
Good tip, “attitude” is important in life!
A lot of self defense courses I’ve taken stress this.
Have a strong winning attitude, be ready for life’s challenges.
You’ll go further in life in general with people and dogs.
Can confirm that with "bull" dogs. You need to prove that you are stronger. Mixed with genuine love and affection. Not to make the dog afraid of you. But to gain respect. You have to really know your dog to know if this is needed.
You're SO RIGHT!! I got really angry cuz I hurt my back so I couldn't put up with ANYTHING and suddenly ALL 3 rescues started behaving like little angels. They were very good before, but I was surprised they could be so calm. You're right that I felt like I was being mean but it wasn't actually mean; it was just being very strict. Thank you sooo much I have been following you since Princey was 2 and every single vid helps!!! Please keep posting. Love to you and your family, staff and pets. 💕🙏🏽🐾
I've got a 55kg (120lb) malamute and Joel was INSTRUMENTAL in my journey making the massive stubborn idiot listen to me :)
"Think like a dog" EXACTLY! This is the foundation of the entire philosophy of my channel and my work
I've learned so much from you. I appreciate everything you post. Thank you.
First ten seconds I agree and was just scolded for doing exactly that by family for raising my voice at a dog 😂 FYI it was my female dog who kept trying to mount another dog at a family gathering, she ignored the other dog telling her to knock it off,
apparently to some its cruel and nasty to raise your voice and snap them out of a behavior 😂
If you have a stubborn dog and you are sure that he understands the command and still doesn't listen to you, then you have to be harsh so that he has respect for you. This means that you don't always have to be like that with him, it's advisable to maintain a softer tone in the long run, because basically the dog doesn't want to disappoint you. You can praise it and don't forget the bond, but the dog also has to know where your boundaries are and respect them.
Yes!! Thank you!
I think this advice is a game changer at least for my dog and wife... you got the point.
Thank you👍
You're right. I remember when I was giving away stuff that belonged to my dog who had died, at my office, and by that time I'd already adopted a new 14-month-old GoldenDoodle who would jump on anybody and everybody who came through the door. He thought he was showing love that way, because that's how he and his former owner acted. One evening a farmer-guy came to pick up some of the stuff I'd advertised on Craigslist, and the moment he came through the door, my jumping dog was INSTANTLY calm, obedient, listened, stayed down, and this guy didn't have to do a THING or say anything or be assertive or dominant or what have you. It was simply his energy. I watched it happen.
I couldn't agree more Joel - this is the #1 issue i have with my clients
I couldn't agree more. Your exactly right.
I've seen many of those "worst dogs" turn into the very best. Sending you perseverance, patience, calm energy & encouragement, for a huge reward in the long run!
Best free advice ever. Little anecdote. This summer i made friends with two buddies, we met climbing a mountain. We remained friends. 6 months later we planned a mini trip, one long weekend on a jungly scape. The land was owned by an old, sweet and loving polish woman who didn´t know one single thing about dogs. She had 5, and they acted like stupid toddlers. My friend was afraid of dogs, and the "pack leader" dog noticed. That dog literally bited my friend´s ass as he passed, not even in their territory. I inmeditaly stood up. I tensed up, pushed the dog´s personal space and growled softly, the deepest and lowest i could. The whole pack went on me showing their teeth but I held my ground. One minute of eye-to-eye showdown. When they gave up and stepped a tiny back, I ordered my friend to walk forward holding eye to eye contact. They backed down and behaved like actually kind dogs for the following days. It was extremely clear to me as well, Joel. That energy floating in the space. I simply said in dog language "i´m not putting up with this". Thanks, you´re the best in the whole youtube landspace.
That "bully" thing is so real😊❤ stand your ground and they wont bully you
🎉 😊 🎉 So glad to have another video out! Thank you!!!!! 🎉
you always know just what to say big man. love your work.
so many great nuggets in this video! I am always learning. thank you
The video that needed to be made ❤Thank you
Well said!!!!
Yep, most accurate title ever!
When a dog at the dog park launches themselves at me it's like hitting a tree. I don't move. When I am walking my 80 lbs Staffy and he stops in front of me i walk through him and he moves.
Thats how my dog learned not to be in my way and how to follow me off leash lol
I just keep walking.
Be proactive, begin with the end in mind,put first thing first, seek first to understand then be understood, think win/win, synergy and maintenance.
Joel, I am 100% with you!! (Not that you need me to be😂)I learn a lot by watching your videos, but I’ve always had this strong attitude about working with dogs. I grew up working with my father in his vet clinic. I toy with the idea of becoming a dog trainer (even at the late age of 66) because it is so gratifying to fix leash reactivity, If one loves dogs, it’s difficult to see them handled in a way that makes them dangerous or difficult. The dogs suffer because of it.
Love ypur videos. Rescued a bulldog and she is the sweetest dog. Only thjng been working with is other dogs, doesn't want to play with other dogs and always seems to be sizing the other dogs up. Love the response with/for positive trainers. :)
"You're on this channel right now because it didn't work" - boom. Enough said for everyone that is quick to complain about common sense regarding how you owe it to your dog to be a responsible HANDLER and owner. Call yourself a paw parent, or whatever, but your dog needs a strong leader to follow because they're a pack animal and you owe it to them to provide them that.
Whether training kids or K9’s we can’t just love them into obedience by using only positive reinforcement. This is where Tough Love comes into play. No loving ethical parent/trainer loves to give a correction/punishment, but we know that it’s necessary so that those whom we train are successful in life, make great optimal correct choices = receive great optimal rewards.
I like to describe this energy as being the same when I walk on the soccer field ready to play the other team. I never go in soft and cuddly to score a goal. I am the captain and I will score a goal. Just like dogs, I am your pack leader and you will change on my command. Shoulders back, voice firm, no asking permission. This is how I step up to a new dog who is sizing me up. I’ve competed against 6ft tall soccer players, why would a big dog be any different. It’s all body language and energy when sizing up your opponent aka clients dog. Visual the change, then be the change. I love this stuff, could talk about it forever. Super awesome video for such an important part of being a Trainer. If you can’t believe in yourself, then don’t ask a dog to. 😂
Behavior is secondary to underlying emotion like fear
You can be as firm and showing the dog that it’s not acceptable to be so afraid of other dogs that he becomes aggressive with the slightest excitement especially when he has no understanding of how to play I think my dog is an A hole sometimes he doesn’t like excitable dogs and he will go after them to get a bite I’ve tried being super tough w him and it made him worse so I started grabbing him holding him talking firmly to him but not scaring him that just made it worse we’re still working on it and I definitely need more control
I think your some where south of LA, hoping that your ok during this Fire Storm.
In group lessons with my dog to complete CGC test, and this is 100% true. Being firm doesn't fix every issue, but it is a first step that needs to happen.
It's an animal. Take bloody charge of it - you are top of the food chain. Yes you will scare them, yes you will hurt their feelings. Just like their natural mother or father does when they step out of line. Weak people make for dangerous pets (and children) Every. Single. Time.
I met a couple once with the dog trainer I know personally.
They had one of those silver lab/Weimaranian crosses. Like 10 or 11 months old.
This dog was a meance.
A jumper.
Would even bite your sleeves if you dare ignore him.
Would try to dominate every other dog.
So the trainer told them to correct this behaviour with putting up their knee.
They told her they can't, it would hurt the dogs feelings.
DUDE YOUR DOG IS BITING AND SHAKING YOUR JACKETS SLEEVES! WAKE THE F UP!
The dog was so unstable that my very calm and social schnauzer, who is smaller by a lot, had to get defensive to the point that he had the other one cornered in and kept him there until the other dog calmed down. The trainer told me that it was okay behaviour and the fog needs that because nobody ever stood up to him before, when I asked her if I should remove my dog from the situation.
I've never seen him doing that before or even after this ever again.
That dog was so unhinged because of it's owners doesn't taking charge it was madness.
I’ve learned so much from you.
Thank you so much Joel for all your videos and especially this one. I rescued a very difficult female Chow right before the pandemic and unfortunately due to other circumstances I didn't have the time I usually take to train and work with her. She was a nightmare! I'm so grateful you showed up on my feed and started hard core training. She's so much better. I can't thank you enough for sharing all your knowledge with us!
One word: anthropomorphic… people need to stop treating their dogs like humans and treating them like their respective species. I wouldn’t want to be treated any other way except as a human. Because I’m a human. It’s that simple.
Awe, what a pretty ridgeback! 😍
I used to make a half a step in my dogs direction if I saw him running too close to me/us multiple times. I have small children after all. Took me 3 times to partially block is path and he learned to avoid me and everyone else by at least 25cm.
Lmao 🤣
Why did you get a dog in the first place if you love being avoided at least 25cm
They Way you explain it is Pristine 👏
You are perfectly right!!!
Soft is when the behavior is cute. Hard is when the behavior needs to stop now. Right now.
"theres no cue for flying out the door 😂"
I needed to hear this because I realize that I'm a gigantic puss arse with my yellow lab/pittie mix... I thought I was just loving him and letting him be a dog and don't want any bad memories in his head but I think I'm doing worse for him being that way. He body checks, jumps up on me, doesn't really respect or listen to me like he does my husband who's always on me about all these things. He's my first official puppy that I've had since he was 4 weeks old and it's hard for me to be stern with him when needed. I know it's like a child and has to be taught - unfortunately I was a puss arse with my kids as well (doormat)... I have got to find a way to be more assertive - he's 70 pounds and strong as hell and I have a very hard time controlling him. I turn my back when he runs up to jump on me (only when I just get home from work - it's not an all day on going issue) and when he's on a leash he's yanking me around like a ragdoll. He's a very good and sweet boy - he just needs proper training and I need to step up and grow a backbone and realize discipline is not a bad thing and is not hurting him. I wish you had a video on how to train humans like me and the bad thinking. It's like I'm afraid of him not loving or liking me anymore if I discipline him or something. Idk but I'm truly glad you posted this. It's made me aware I need to change my thinking and methods. I just want him to have the happiest and funnest life ever ❤ but I want him to be good and respectful also. Taking him to the vet by myself is a complete nightmare - trying to hold onto him while filling out paperwork OMG.... I dread it 😔
Check out Dale McCluskey
Same thing with kids, its why our society is where it is today, people just out here gallivanting around, not being serious.
I asked Nate Schoemer my mentor dog trainer and a former Marine Drill instructor which is harder training humans or dogs and he said humans by far. Marine drill instructors are all business.
As a mom of two teenage boys I can confirm that. Sooo hard to get some impulse control into our 14y old, what a pitty the treat-and-wait-procedure does not work on humans😎
I am persistent though and often rather act than debate if he „cant hear me“, slowly getting there 🤪
@rosablume4346 absolutely.
I’ve been asked this too and it’s way easier to train dogs than humans.
The only time I ever got bitten by a dog was a totally random attack in a public place. It was a farmer's sheepdog, and he was really surprised and worried that I would report the dog. He looked as surprised as I should have been. But, I had just had an argument with my mother, and there was a lot of rage in my thoughts and even back then I had an inkling that the dog was reacting to that, because it had no reason to attack me. I love dogs and dogs love me, except for that one time.
For now, I am thankful I went overboard for some things. My dog is pretty well behaved(unless play is in the question, still working on that). Might be time to dial it back a bit with the discipline and do some more play(ball) training.
If you showed up to the facility, addressed the pack as "critter fam" with dark make-up around your eyes, lots of hair products wearing a cardigan i bet the dogs would act more outta pocket.
I saw this leadership/leash thing first hand. A friend of mine had the sister of my gsd, which was far more laid back than my dog. At the dog park for the first time and the owner was nervous, and it translated to the dog. I asked for the leash and within 5 minutes the dogs demeanor changed and it was off and playing with other dogs. You need to be the leader of the pack. If not you are gonna get stepped on.
And, I go BINK ! BINK = ASSERTIVE Anything else = Error
But Joel, I can’t be mean to my fur baby!
Thanks for using the best word in the title - attitude. Although on the thumbnail, I see “energy”. I think we all got into that due to Cesar Milan and likely, his misunderstanding of the language. Energy is not the right word. That’s like saying low versus high energy. Huh? So you better not be sick and exhausted or your dog will ignore you and do bad things? Wrong word. Attitude, presence, aura, etc, several better words for this. Ok, off the soapbox!
So true!!!
Before you even decide on which breed of dog is best for you an honest self assessment of your personality and experience level must be done so you avoid all these issues that are a result off your shortcomings. There is no shame in getting a happy go lucky dog s a best match for your personality and teaching skills.
Lifelong big dog owner. It has always been MY responsibility to make sure my dog is safe for all. Was always amazed at how reactive flaky people are about being DETERMINED as a pet owner! 😮
It doesn't make much sense does it? They'll be consistent with so many other things but not with a dog. And when it acts outta pocket , because it doesn't know what is expected they act like they just got this uncontrollable animal.
Joel 100% named this
I have two hefty dogs with “bull” in their names, and you definitely have to out bulldog them by being immovable or else! They do learn to respect you if you are consistent.😂🐾🐾
Could you please do a video on dog-dog resource guarding? There’s not much out there online and I’m having quite the time despite my best efforts with my Corgi. He does NOT rg people at all. Thanks!
Basically this is a discussion about R+ (positive reinforcement) trainers and balanced trainers who follow the science of Pavlov and Skinner. There are most certainly 4 Quadrants in dog training. If you want to argue that with me, game on.
How do you get a very scared dog to listen? My dog hates the leash she runs away, even to put her outside to potty she freaks and runs away. Can’t even get her to take any food at all for any training, she’s just terrified of everything. I don’t know how to help her.
Sit and wait and no sudden moves and no noise and no eye contact.
On the floor. Lay the leash somewhere away from you and be in a home office sized area where she does just leave
Try Calm, soft tones when speaking. Sounds like you need change her associations with things to good associations. Slow, desensitization to normal things. Find something a toy, play whatever, that you can use if she won't take treats ( maybe they smell like horribleness) try her food. Lots of variables we don't know about your dog.
Look up main breeds and see what makes them tick typically?
Hey Joel, I have a 6 month old Malamute. He's brilliant! I'm mixing treats with some modest corrections and training is going well. I love your videos but its mostly older dogs. If you did some content on 6 months - 2 years I would be glued to the screen!!?
Take a look at all of Joel’s videos…..you’ll find several vids 🇬🇧
I wish it would work with my dog. Hard clap, loud voice? He couldn't care less. Correcting him by grabbing his collar and making him sit? He only gets more aroused and starts to wrestle me.
The more intense I am, the more playtime it is for him. Nothing shocks him, he's not afraid of anything, he doesn't respect me.
A dog like that, I will never fix using online advices. And I know, because I tried everything for the past 6 months, and I've been consistent too.
I just might have the worst dog in the world.
Can you redirect the dog's energy into play and then work on obeying commands? A ball, a tug toy, something the dog likes.
I think Joel has a video with a big goofy Golden retriever where he talks about dogs that just kinda see everything as a big game. That's a tricky one. I feel you, though, I have a puppy that doesn't give a shit about claps/shouting and if you get physical, she gets wild and is like "I'm going to do it harder now". She doesn't like a squirt bottle. And I've had some luck redirecting her, so like instead of just saying "no, off!", it's a little more effective if I call her to me instead. Idk, man. Some dogs are really hard.
@armandhammer2235
I do that 4 to 5 times a day, everyday for the past 6 months. I'm not having walks with him, I'm having sessions. Each is 20 mins~ Playing, redirecting, obedience.
But he's a very reactive Malinois, it's like banging a head against a wall. I'm not even mentioning biting my leg out of frustration...
Currently he's 9 months old, hope is nowhere in sight.
@CaduceusErin Yeah, you can read my other comment where I've put in more details. I watched hundreds of hours in online training. I've never seen any dog even remotely close to my own
@cr7madrid95 9 months is the hardest time with a dog. Take a deep breath and keep going, there is a light at the end of the tunnel and you'll see that it's like someone flipped a switch. Peace.
I am not here because treats didn't work.
I am here because I don't want to train with treats in the first place.
I want to establish a real training.
I've seen dogs being trained with treats multiple times as this is the go to method in my country.
I've seen people whos dogs didn't do f when their owner ran out of treats for bribing.
Positive only training CAN work but if the dog has serious issues it won't do anything most of the time.
Going "bam!" or any strong response from me (vocal, or leash) has absolutely no affect with my fearful GSD.
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Maybe you don't need to be yelling just yet because your dog is fearful. Be a little softer until you figure out the trauma and why your dog is "fearful" otherwise you're probably just gonna add to the dogs anxiety and end up going 2 steps back.
@rptrick79 when she's reactive towards anything (or nothing), my corrections mean nothing to her. It's as if I'm not there.
After over a year with her (adopted at 5 years old), I'm 99% sure her fear is genetic.
She's never really"engaged" with me. Doesn't "play". If she gets playful, she'll just grab a bone and play/chew, off by herself.
Never met a dog like her. Just taking things day by day. I'd like to say that I'm going to get somewhere with her, but not confident that I will without help. DIY so far isn't getting us very far.
If I can scrape up some money, I want a trainer to evaluate her, perhaps put together a game plan, and help me get my confidence back (extremely bad experience with another dog on a walk pretty much destroyed my confidence).
A more experienced handler would probably be able to get a good read on her.
I know I'm missing something (behavioral/body language, etc).
It's me. It's never the dogs fault.
Great video
Hey Joel you look quite a lot like Michael Keaton 😎 Great video thanks
I’ve heard that so many times.
It's the "IDGAF" eyebrows! Definitely got the American Assassin attitude down. 😅
What the hell we doing in the kitchen 😂
Have you been listening to Dale McCluskey? Sounds like there’s a relationship first… a power-play dynamic… maybe more about dogs, perception than responses or behaviors from the dog?🤔IMHO
With dogs this totally makes sense, and I have employed these techniques on my dogs. Does it apply to prey animals like sheep and cows too? I ended up with a fracture from a ram because the same techniques didn't seem to work, was In probably just not going hard enough to stop the behavior? (My sheep kill coyotes and stray dogs that bother them)
Dogs are uniquely evolved to be highly trainable. I’d assume it’s far more of an uphill battle with other animals even if they are domesticated. Prey animals especially are more likely to fight or flight if confronted vs the higher confidence of predator animals. There is a reason why dog is a man’s best friend. We created them that way
It's me, hi, I'm the problem, it's me.
The "anti-trainer" love that song!
@rptrick79 😄😄😄😄
bink bink bink
Thats Real!
Good tip for wives as well
Yes yes yes yes
Where’s the green grass gone?
It got scared from all the "marking and punishing" and just went dormant until Joel moves
Bermuda goes dormant in the winter. Or it could be what rpatrick said.
I know your business is going in a different direction but I miss the videos:(
I out my knee up all the time when my doberman jumps. Ill raise my voice & say off but she continues to jump. Any ideas?
Blah, blah, energy, attitude. Sure, but the important issue is trust. And dominating a dog has been proven to be a failed approach. Respect and trust doesn’t mean allowing a dog to do whatever it wants, just like with kids. What a simplistic and condescending video.
No, trust is the most import issue when training big cats, bears, killer whales and trauma filled rescue dogs. The trust when you got at a young age like most people do is established in about 2 days.
Nah sorry.
Trust can be a key when we talk about highly traumatised dogs.
But "normal" dogs with behaviour issues from being cuddled all the time?
No.
Trust has nothing to do with that.
Dogs aren't kids.