The Tall Poppy Syndrome is quite similar to the Scandinavian "Jantelov". I believe the Japanese have a saying "The nail that sticks up, will be hammered down". For this reason, I believe the "Tall poppy syndrom" is built into human nature, and you'll experience this in all cultures. You'll just not register it when being a foreigner.
yep. I'm 51 and Australian and aside for a 4 year stint back there, have lived overseas for the last 30 years in different countries. I am white so was never persecuted for my colour, but my brother who is darker than me and was always in the sun had so many racial slurs directed at him that it was ridiculous. I always felt so cut off and ostracised from the rest of the world growing up and have often described the feeling of living there like being in a bubble. You forget to mention the complete lack of culture or rituals. I spent 11 years living in Europe and really felt connected to the culture because of them. Enjoyed your perspectives.
Good reasons. The heavy-handedness during Covid turned me off from most countries. I was SOOO fortunate to live in liberal Switzerland, where schools were only closed for 2 weeks and everyone was able to go out with friends, go skiing and on hiking on vacations inside the country. Everything was open for business and life was very good, compared to all neighboring countries, where some people were being fined if they left a radius of 200 meters from their home or apartment. You can't make this sh*t up.
In Melbourne Australia, we were the most lockdpwn city in the world in 2021. Government mandated the vaccine for everyone not working from home, so i had to quit my job. And the vast majority of people support all this, its disgusting.
I am an Aussie in my twenties and Lashan inspired me to take that leap to start life in London 3 years ago and am doing well I would say, I agree with every point he made here. It was so hard to get started on my life in Sydney, getting that first job, getting that first investment, getting that first bit of morale support and even from family. Only celeberated when you go back a success. Unfortunate culture, but its very real. The UK and US are definitely more young supportive.❤
I've been living in Australia for 5 years and a half. And even though I changed 'the third world' for the first, as I am Argentinian. I had a better lifestyle there. Living in Sydney you spend your time working. You live a little on weekends and when going on holidays. Yes, it is a beautiful country and the economy is stable. I would say I have more money here, but not better balance. Maybe is just Sydney? I'm not sure. And I have to say, I love Australia but Australian coffee is awful! But Aussies are convinced they know a lot about it.😅 It's hipster specialty served extremely cold. For the best coffee Colombia, Italy and Brazil ❤
😂😂😂 Love the coffee comment hahaha, I will say one of the best singular coffees I've ever had was at a random restaurant in Lake Atitlan Guatemala, straight out of a moka pot - beans make a world of difference Sydney is very work heavy agreed, when I was living there as an adult you _could_ find a decent work-life balance but ironically you had to try really hard to make it so.
@@LashanRwhy have u only really talked about Sydney in your video? I am curious what your thoughts are on the nightlife in Melbourne (the place where there are more live music venues per capita in the world and 24 hour nightclubs) Sydney’s nightlife was always sh*t haha
As a immigrant Aussie living in the UK, I can appreciate and agree with majority of the points you made! I will say though, with war in the Middle East, the EU + UK going through a bit of an economic crisis, the Chinese economy stagnating and Trump poised to be reelected in the US, I'm so glad I got my Aussie passport before leaving. It's an enormous privilege to be able to go back to Australia if "shit hits the fan" in the rest of the world. Geoffrey Blainey coined the term "tyranny of distance" to describe the Australian continent's remoteness to the rest of the world and it might not be such a bad thing in today's increasingly turbulent world.
I've travelled frequently for 30 years. Each airport has a different energy. Sydney airport energy reflects a bunch of jumped up wankers. The workers are nice, it's the domestic terminal passengers I'm talking about.
I'm Aussie living in London now but considering moving home mainly because my skilled worker visa prevents me from earning side money, did you find a way around this with TH-cam income? I could wait two years for ILR but it is frustrating having restrictions
I appreciate your perspective. As a Canadian I can see some of the same issues here like the tall poppy syndrome. It makes me understand those who move abroad more. I still wouldn’t want to live elsewhere though. You are a talented content creator. Keep on being yourself.
Yup, I'm a kiwi that lived in Perth for a while, then taught English in Japan for a few years, and has been living in London for almost 20 years now. I have considered moving back to NZ or Australia to be closer to my friends and family but a lot of the reasons you mention are similar to my thoughts. People always ask the same question "why are you here?" For the weather😆 In some ways I think you might prefer NZ since it is a bit more liberal and is less corrupt (and less racist) but NZ is also very small and isolated geographically (plus we have the tall poopy syndrome just like Australia). And yeah, Australia is definitely racist but they get all upset if you point it out.
I was born and live in Australia but will agree there are far too many rules and restrictions. I left Sydney and Brisbane for the coastal country life and it’s idilic. I have travelled abroad extensively and loved every country but I will always ‘still call Australia …. Home ‘ 🎶
Thanks for sharing. I am an Australian living in UK ever since I left uni. It is 10 times easier to find a dream job in London than Sydney. The quality of life is way better and like you said, going to Europe is so convenient for a weekend trip. But bear in mind, it would be hard to return to Aus one day as house price is just unaffordable.
Quality of life is better in a city with expensive and poor housing, crappy weather, unsafe (people snatching phones), and mediocre salaries in average? Lmao
Is this guy for real? Racism in Europe is much worse, especially in France. I'm an immigrant in Australia and have also lived in the UK and Montreal, and both of those places can be quite racist-much more so than Australia. The opportunities in Australia are excellent. I moved back to Melbourne after years in London, and my salary almost doubled, while my expenses are 40% lower than in cities like London or Paris. I'm currently working for the government, and I’m certain I wouldn’t have been able to get this role based on merit alone in places like France, Spain, or even my home country, where everything is driven by connections and corruption. Also, the lockout laws were a Sydney thing; Melbourne has a fantastic nightlife and is actually very progressive. There are very few places in the world like Melbourne; multicultural, mild weather, great wages and career profession. Tech scene here is not bad at all. This guy really needs to a research, and it’s sad that people dying for the opportunity to move here can’t. Like we say in Spanish “Dios le da pan al que no tiene dientes” God gives bread to those who have no teeth.
Everyone liking this comment I'd love to hear what you have to say too :) Thanks for your input! This video is about my reasons why I left the country, every statement I make doesn't imply that the other countries I've lived in are free of these things. There's a lot more subtle structural racism in Montreal than Australia/London, but also Montreal/London/other places have positives that I can't get in Australia. Like dirt cheap cost of living + lively arts/creative scene (Montreal), and plentiful cheap/easy travel opportunities (London). You say you're an immigrant in Australia so where are you from originally? I know a lot of friends who have immigrated from elsewhere to Australia (even from Canada and Denmark/Netherlands) and absolutely love it and have moved there permanently - a lot can be attributed to the grass is greener effect on things. For them and for me. I like Melbourne but when I was graduating as a 22 year old and wanting to leave Sydney, with a love for Montreal and desire to learn french - if I'm gonna leave Sydney I didn't want to go next door with little cultural difference or change, I wanted to take it all the way. And while yes of course the salaries and lifestyle/quality of living is fantastic in Australia (I mention it in the video), there's more to life than that. If I just wanted a nice safe stable life in Australia I would've stayed put.
@@LashanR I emigrated to Australia from the UK a decade ago and I was able to advance up the ranks super quickly, the economy was better then ergo the jobs market was healthier too. This was in Melbourne and I managed to make a pretty good life out of it. I am as brown as you get as well haha. I used to get that 'where are you really from?' question from Australians and I loved winding them up with the same answer: England! I think the first signs of a rift between myself and the place were during covid and the insane number of lockdown days. You are right though Lashan, there's more to life than just pure cash. You want to grow and flourish as a human being. I love the arts and am a strong proponent of technology startups/innovation (the scene is dying before it had a chance in Australia). Part of loving something is the desire to improve it: there is little desire to improve the country and it is corrupt as hell. At any rate, I am a citizen now, so free to come and go as I please, for that, I am thankful!
@@LashanRseriously man why did u not just make the video ‘why I left Sydney’ U mention Montreal alot…the nightlife there is horrible…there lockout/final call is 3AM - Melbourne lockout/final call is non existent…24 hour city/nightlife Did u ever leave Sydney?
I think australians need to hear this as we tend to get stuck in oir bubble. I would say that australia is a great place to call home but not the best place to live. Having said that I think with all that is going on in the world even woth all of our problems we are better off. Adelaide is home to me, but i like to get to the East Coast for all the fun things, but every time i go there, i am reminded why i dont want to live there. The quality of life here is the best. I encourage all of my athletes to see the world and open their minds. But to know that while they do so they always have a home here. A place of refuge that is safe beyond measure.
100% agreed! It's definitely a massive privilege to have the Australian passport and have the option to go back home there if everything goes sour, just as a young adult it's worth the risk and time to go explore the world out there, grow and see how the rest of the world lives and operates
@LashanR Cheers for the response, mate. I think I am going to have to listen to the whole thing again today as it has stirred the intellectual juices. I am interested in what has led to the nanny state, diminished market sector job opportunities, and investment issues. I wonder if there is any correlation that can be found in our short history as a country. I am more intrigued if there are practical policies that could be implemented to remedy these issues. Stat tuned.
Great video lashan! Though I do like my nice boring life hahahaha. Interesting point RE tall poppy syndrome thing. Haven't really noticed that personally... Innovation is definitely lacking though.
Salut jeune homme. Pleased that Montréal was such an eye opener for you; I remember hearing that very thing from many other students and work/visit visa holders. In a way, it was a blessing in disguise that things got so wonky whilst you were here, otherwise - you might have missed out on all the European (UK) drama. Just kidding. However, it did allow you to bounce around the Continent to your heart's content. Tu as même vécu à Paris pendant quelques semaines! Got to practice your Français after all. You have clearly delineated the motivations behind your emigration to far off shores, nothing terribly shocking per sé. A few Aussie feathers might be ruffled but, your truth cannot be denied. Perspectives based on life experiences are personal, nothing wrong with that fact. You are finally in your groove, or appear to be getting there, so keep a stiff upper lip and carry on lad. Be well and stay safe.
Never say never mate. World is slowly turning into shit and EU won't last long - wars, illegal migration, high taxes, weak economy... Australia is the only place that is self-sufficient and far enough away from most of that shit.
Hey man, Sorry you had had those experiences in Australia, and ofcourse your individual experience shape your perception. I would strongly disagree about the tall poppy syndrome. What I think gets interpreted as the tall poppy syndrome is actually one of the best values in Australian culture, egalitarian, giving everyone a fair go. Very few countries allow working class people to afford a decent lifestyle compared to Australia. Australian society values human life (social safety net, free health care etc..) and there is a cultural aspect of everyone playing by the same rules. The same thing that allows few individuals to rise to the top by exploiting others like in US (minimum wage, poor working conditions) is the same thing that creates inequality, homelessness and degradation of normal people’s lifestyle. I don’t think there is so much of tearing someone down who is trying to succeed, it’s more reminding people, ‘you may have a fancy job but you gotta treat everyone with respect’. I do agree about the dumb racialized humor here. It’s pretty cringe. Though I think it’s really moved in the right direction in the past 10 years. The new generation from different cultures has started owning their culture and there is a lot more nuanced debate about culture and race compared to 15 years ago. Still a long way to go though.
Tall poppy syndrome is everywhere in Australia and its got nothing to do with respect. It hinders innovation and growth because it's fundamentally toxic. Why should someone dictate to you exactly how successful you should be because they tell me my place? That is just ridiculous.
I'm in my mid-50s and born in Oz. I am leaving for Europe, a non-EU country to be with my wife. Oz has gone downhill so much and started in the early 1990s, and has become a 3rd world country....just look around. A YT channel talk about going where you are treated best and Oz with its fascist ideology and police state has lost it. The culture has gone. The language is hardly heard on the streets. Even in my job as a govt employee am not allowed to call each "mate" as it is an offence, so they say. The wokeness etc is beyond dumb and ridiculous. I believe the country is bankrupt since covid, like most other countries. Forget the cost of living, as who wants to live here when there is no culture, no real or true friendships, people are so self-absorbed, etc. The whole vibe of the country has flatlined. Oz will become like Canada or the UK in a very short period of time. And for those of you who think we are free here, Australia doesn't even have free speech in its legal system, so no, we cannot openly say what we want. The US has free speech. Australia does not. To live where you are treated the best, Australia is no longer even a consideration.
Wow, I thought I was the only one who thought all of this. Not to mention what happened during COVID when.people tried to protest and all the "mandated" vaccinations in order to keep your job. It's amazing how quickly people have forgotten too.
@@Bobafe77a Many ppl suffer from long-term memory loss. Anything beyond a week is lost and forgotten. Sad tbh and whyI i refuse to look at TikTok videos etc......anything that reinforces me to have a 30-second attention span needs to be abolished imoho
Many of these points come from underlying truths about Australia, but overall this just feels like you personally connect better with European / North American cultures. Those who connect with the culture could speak to many of the same topics in a positive light. I do wish we capitalised on our natural advantages in the renewable energy space more aggressively (i.e. more risk), but expecting a nation of 25 million people to have thriving tech or arts industries like the US or Europe is a bit delusional. Also, for those non-Sydneysiders who stumble upon this comment, the cliffs are fenced because many spots have historically been used for suicide. You need not travel far out of the city to find unfenced cliffs and unpatrolled beaches. Just now this has made me think: is the risk aversion of Australians a trait developed over time due to the vast and inhospitable landscape? All of us learn to swim, yet there are still so many drownings each year from people fishing or swimming far from help. Something to think about, appreciate the video.
Portugal has a population of a bit over 10 million people and has a thriving arts and culture scene, and a great tech industry on its own. There's obviously a want in Australia for arts and culture/entertainment but you can see from the calls of those industries that there has never been anywhere near enough support for them by successive governments. I think it's just as delusional to expect everyone wanting to work in those industries to up and leave like I did, and counter-productive if they gave up and worked in something they weren't as good at/passionate about. The skill and talent and drive is all there but it's untapped and wasted With the cliffs they were put up during the time I was living in Sydney, I don't think a waist high fence would do much to deter somebody but it's indicative of the risk-averse nature of Aussie society
Yeah you might be right, the mainstream arts like neighbours have probably reached their natural limit, but as you say, there is little funding for anyone to go make something new and creative. Couldn't agree more about the fences, starting a petition to double their height! நன்றி! (Apologies, started learning Tamil only a week ago and had to take the opportunity, not sure if this is even the right context to use it haha)
Agree with so many points - however why did u only mention Sydney when discussing nightlife?? Even before the lockout laws Melbourne has always been the live music and nightlife capital of Australia - multiple venues with 24 hour licences u can party from Friday until Tuesday morning and not go home
Because I lived in Sydney for basically all of my adult life before I left Australia. I visited Melbourne a few times and yes the nightlife/music scene is better, I've had some fun times out, but it doesn't even remotely compare to the nightlife/music scene that exists in London, Berlin, Paris, and yes also Montréal. Even with things shutting at 3am in Montréal it was still better and more vibrant, and I was well into the music scene there working for Sofar Sounds. You can see the same trend when people online compare Melbourne nightlife to say Glasgow as well too - it's the best on an Australia scale but it's not up there on a world stage
@@LashanR I’m sorry - but your experience with nightlife and the music scene is not that of the same level of experience that I have - I work as a booker for DGTL festival in Barcelona and have been a booker/music programmer for the past 10 years on a full time basis and have DJed for the past 20 years - here is a fact for you ….Melbourne has a bigger scene than Montreal (it is not even comparable tbh) top tier DJ booking fees are legitimately 4 time the amount in Melbourne than what they would get paid in Montreal because there is far more demand for them in Melbourne as there is a bigger scene across multiple genres - yes melbourne is not comparable to Berlin and London (Paris is not as good as what it use to be but it is still better in Paris ) but please do not bring Montreal into this …completely off the mark here Curious also what venues did u attend in Melbourne? (I am sure u will not respond to this post btw)
Also because u prob think I am bullshitting with the above response talking about my experience (which I understand as aussies have tall poppy ;) ) here is what AI chat says comparing the 2 Type it in yourself to get the answer also: What has a bigger music industry Melbourne or montreal: ‘Melbourne generally has a larger and more vibrant music industry compared to Montreal. Melbourne is known for its diverse music scene, hosting numerous music festivals, a wide range of venues, and a significant number of artists across various genres’
@@LashanR Here is more proof for you - from AI Chat Do more music artist play in melbourne or Montreal? While both Melbourne and Montreal are vibrant cities with rich music scenes, Melbourne tends to have a higher volume of live performances due to its larger population and diverse range of venues. Melbourne is known for its extensive live music culture, including a variety of genres and a strong local scene. Can you please just admit your wrong here? Because you are…
I don't know what you're expecting out of a video about why _I_ left Australia. This video isn't why _you_ should leave Australia, or every reason to leave Australia. I knew someone would take this the wrong way which is why i have so many disclaimers in video yet it still happened 🤷🏽♂️ I lived in Montréal, and London, travelled around a ton and now I'm in Paris, obviously I'm gonna talk about my experiences. Sure the scene is smaller in Montréal. I don't even mention nightlife in Montréal in the video at all yet you're using this as the whole basis of your argument as if it invalidates everything else 😂 You even admit the scene in Melbourne isn't comparable to London or Berlin so why does it even matter? I talk about Sydney nightlife in the video not just because of that single issue, but because of how the way it was handled is indicative of things that go way further than the nightlife industry - the nanny state/police state mentality, the government really not caring for young people, lack of funding in the arts, corruption, state of the media landscape etc.
I feel a lot of the same about the US, and I hear a lot of the same reactions when saying I want to leave the US, and I vibe with your thoughts on those sorts of reactions. But really... Reason #10 and gun violence risk are going to be the biggest for me to leave the US. Hope you're finding a solid footing wherever you are now!
Also, I'm mostly a "white" Australian. My family is from Scotland and England, and my mother's family are 4th generation Australian. I have a little Spanish and Indian blood thus I have dark hair and eyes, "Mediterranean features". The amount of racism I have faced in Australia is unacceptable. I've had the "Where are you really from?" question posed to me all my life. I've been called antisemitic names and 'wog', targeted verbally and physically attacked because of this. So I empathise with your remarks regarding racism. I'm glad you have found a way out and enjoying life.
Nailed it!! Exactly why I have no desire what so ever to go back to Australia to live. There are many positives, however the negatives now outweigh them to really live there. Unfortunately by and large Aussies are institutionalised to how things are done in Australia and heartily drink the Government/Media Kool-Aid....
They're very different in my opinion. Biggest thing is the tall poppy syndrome, at least amongst my friends and everyone I met it felt non-existent there - the creative industry, entrepreneur/tech scene were all thriving in comparison. The cost of living is a massive difference, I left Montreal in 2019 so my rent was still dirt cheap 😅 I know it's worse now but still cheaper than other places. And that low cost of living really just affords you the ability to experiment with what you want to do in life without such harsh consequences as you would in Sydney or London. I was unemployed in Montreal the first 3-4 months I was there, cruising on savings, freelancing a little bit and that was totally fine - in London it took me 6 weeks to get my first job and that was cutting things extremely close lol. There's a lot of other reasons as well from public transport to the city density/walkabillity, work-life balance etc etc
Agreed. Over governed over taxed we have become the nanny state nanny country. Big banks have a stranglehold on the country. Politicians for many years are in bed with multnational companies who pay no tax or very little and when the Politicians leve politics they get a cushy job in these multinational companies. Its covert corruption at its best. Australia is unfortunately is not the lucky country it once was
I'm a Montrealer and have lived here all my life. Your description of Australia makes me laugh because it sounds so much like Montreal. Funny that a trip to Montreal would change your view of the world.
The culture has become toxic and overly materialistic. It's difficult to find a decent person to share life with, as many people are becoming more egoistic. Housing prices are high, making it hard to establish a stable home.. The entrepreneurial spirit have faded, with little support for new ventures. Divorce rates are high, further complicating the idea of building a lasting family...
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It sounds to me : bored spooled Aussie talking:) always people don’t appreciate what they have: everywhere . There are tonnes opprtunities in Au. I came from Poland to Brisbane 6 years ago , started landscaping business and now I own 3 houses , got married ,travel overseas 2 times per year(Japan china so on)Literally noo waay I could do it in Europe ,in any country and yes Iconstantly see locals complaining about Australia:) There are plenty start ups here (5th rank in the world Yes siper vibrant start up scene) Australia is more linked to Asia Pacific region and guess what : most people in the world live in this region. Europe and America isn’t the center of universe. Ridiculous. All about mind set up.
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Australia has the lowest innovation and productivity in the world, below 'third-world' counties.
The Tall Poppy Syndrome is quite similar to the Scandinavian "Jantelov". I believe the Japanese have a saying "The nail that sticks up, will be hammered down".
For this reason, I believe the "Tall poppy syndrom" is built into human nature, and you'll experience this in all cultures. You'll just not register it when being a foreigner.
Never have I ever seen this with my friends or parents.
yep. I'm 51 and Australian and aside for a 4 year stint back there, have lived overseas for the last 30 years in different countries. I am white so was never persecuted for my colour, but my brother who is darker than me and was always in the sun had so many racial slurs directed at him that it was ridiculous. I always felt so cut off and ostracised from the rest of the world growing up and have often described the feeling of living there like being in a bubble. You forget to mention the complete lack of culture or rituals. I spent 11 years living in Europe and really felt connected to the culture because of them. Enjoyed your perspectives.
Good reasons. The heavy-handedness during Covid turned me off from most countries. I was SOOO fortunate to live in liberal Switzerland, where schools were only closed for 2 weeks and everyone was able to go out with friends, go skiing and on hiking on vacations inside the country. Everything was open for business and life was very good, compared to all neighboring countries, where some people were being fined if they left a radius of 200 meters from their home or apartment. You can't make this sh*t up.
Klaus didn't want to be locked down.
In Melbourne Australia, we were the most lockdpwn city in the world in 2021. Government mandated the vaccine for everyone not working from home, so i had to quit my job. And the vast majority of people support all this, its disgusting.
I am an Aussie in my twenties and Lashan inspired me to take that leap to start life in London 3 years ago and am doing well I would say, I agree with every point he made here. It was so hard to get started on my life in Sydney, getting that first job, getting that first investment, getting that first bit of morale support and even from family. Only celeberated when you go back a success. Unfortunate culture, but its very real. The UK and US are definitely more young supportive.❤
I've been living in Australia for 5 years and a half. And even though I changed 'the third world' for the first, as I am Argentinian. I had a better lifestyle there.
Living in Sydney you spend your time working. You live a little on weekends and when going on holidays.
Yes, it is a beautiful country and the economy is stable. I would say I have more money here, but not better balance.
Maybe is just Sydney? I'm not sure.
And I have to say, I love Australia but Australian coffee is awful! But Aussies are convinced they know a lot about it.😅
It's hipster specialty served extremely cold.
For the best coffee Colombia, Italy and Brazil ❤
😂😂😂 Love the coffee comment hahaha, I will say one of the best singular coffees I've ever had was at a random restaurant in Lake Atitlan Guatemala, straight out of a moka pot - beans make a world of difference
Sydney is very work heavy agreed, when I was living there as an adult you _could_ find a decent work-life balance but ironically you had to try really hard to make it so.
@@LashanRwhy have u only really talked about Sydney in your video? I am curious what your thoughts are on the nightlife in Melbourne (the place where there are more live music venues per capita in the world and 24 hour nightclubs) Sydney’s nightlife was always sh*t haha
As a immigrant Aussie living in the UK, I can appreciate and agree with majority of the points you made! I will say though, with war in the Middle East, the EU + UK going through a bit of an economic crisis, the Chinese economy stagnating and Trump poised to be reelected in the US, I'm so glad I got my Aussie passport before leaving. It's an enormous privilege to be able to go back to Australia if "shit hits the fan" in the rest of the world. Geoffrey Blainey coined the term "tyranny of distance" to describe the Australian continent's remoteness to the rest of the world and it might not be such a bad thing in today's increasingly turbulent world.
I've travelled frequently for 30 years. Each airport has a different energy. Sydney airport energy reflects a bunch of jumped up wankers. The workers are nice, it's the domestic terminal passengers I'm talking about.
I'm Aussie living in London now but considering moving home mainly because my skilled worker visa prevents me from earning side money, did you find a way around this with TH-cam income? I could wait two years for ILR but it is frustrating having restrictions
I appreciate your perspective. As a Canadian I can see some of the same issues here like the tall poppy syndrome. It makes me understand those who move abroad more. I still wouldn’t want to live elsewhere though. You are a talented content creator. Keep on being yourself.
Yup, I'm a kiwi that lived in Perth for a while, then taught English in Japan for a few years, and has been living in London for almost 20 years now. I have considered moving back to NZ or Australia to be closer to my friends and family but a lot of the reasons you mention are similar to my thoughts. People always ask the same question "why are you here?" For the weather😆 In some ways I think you might prefer NZ since it is a bit more liberal and is less corrupt (and less racist) but NZ is also very small and isolated geographically (plus we have the tall poopy syndrome just like Australia). And yeah, Australia is definitely racist but they get all upset if you point it out.
I was born and live in Australia but will agree there are far too many rules and restrictions.
I left Sydney and Brisbane for the coastal country life and it’s idilic. I have travelled abroad extensively and loved every country but I will always ‘still call Australia …. Home ‘ 🎶
Thanks for sharing. I am an Australian living in UK ever since I left uni. It is 10 times easier to find a dream job in London than Sydney. The quality of life is way better and like you said, going to Europe is so convenient for a weekend trip. But bear in mind, it would be hard to return to Aus one day as house price is just unaffordable.
Quality of life is better in a city with expensive and poor housing, crappy weather, unsafe (people snatching phones), and mediocre salaries in average? Lmao
You mean Londonistan?
Thanks for the video man!
I really laughed at the part when you tell how there were bunch of investors in Finland! 😃 A great video!!
Thought you might find that bit amusing 😂😂😂 Thank you!!
Is this guy for real? Racism in Europe is much worse, especially in France. I'm an immigrant in Australia and have also lived in the UK and Montreal, and both of those places can be quite racist-much more so than Australia. The opportunities in Australia are excellent. I moved back to Melbourne after years in London, and my salary almost doubled, while my expenses are 40% lower than in cities like London or Paris. I'm currently working for the government, and I’m certain I wouldn’t have been able to get this role based on merit alone in places like France, Spain, or even my home country, where everything is driven by connections and corruption. Also, the lockout laws were a Sydney thing; Melbourne has a fantastic nightlife and is actually very progressive. There are very few places in the world like Melbourne; multicultural, mild weather, great wages and career profession. Tech scene here is not bad at all. This guy really needs to a research, and it’s sad that people dying for the opportunity to move here can’t. Like we say in Spanish “Dios le da pan al que no tiene dientes” God gives bread to those who have no teeth.
Spot on 100%
True,my daughter was an exchange student in France and she couldn't believe how racist the French were.
Everyone liking this comment I'd love to hear what you have to say too :)
Thanks for your input! This video is about my reasons why I left the country, every statement I make doesn't imply that the other countries I've lived in are free of these things. There's a lot more subtle structural racism in Montreal than Australia/London, but also Montreal/London/other places have positives that I can't get in Australia. Like dirt cheap cost of living + lively arts/creative scene (Montreal), and plentiful cheap/easy travel opportunities (London). You say you're an immigrant in Australia so where are you from originally? I know a lot of friends who have immigrated from elsewhere to Australia (even from Canada and Denmark/Netherlands) and absolutely love it and have moved there permanently - a lot can be attributed to the grass is greener effect on things. For them and for me.
I like Melbourne but when I was graduating as a 22 year old and wanting to leave Sydney, with a love for Montreal and desire to learn french - if I'm gonna leave Sydney I didn't want to go next door with little cultural difference or change, I wanted to take it all the way. And while yes of course the salaries and lifestyle/quality of living is fantastic in Australia (I mention it in the video), there's more to life than that. If I just wanted a nice safe stable life in Australia I would've stayed put.
@@LashanR I emigrated to Australia from the UK a decade ago and I was able to advance up the ranks super quickly, the economy was better then ergo the jobs market was healthier too. This was in Melbourne and I managed to make a pretty good life out of it. I am as brown as you get as well haha. I used to get that 'where are you really from?' question from Australians and I loved winding them up with the same answer: England!
I think the first signs of a rift between myself and the place were during covid and the insane number of lockdown days. You are right though Lashan, there's more to life than just pure cash. You want to grow and flourish as a human being.
I love the arts and am a strong proponent of technology startups/innovation (the scene is dying before it had a chance in Australia). Part of loving something is the desire to improve it: there is little desire to improve the country and it is corrupt as hell. At any rate, I am a citizen now, so free to come and go as I please, for that, I am thankful!
@@LashanRseriously man why did u not just make the video ‘why I left Sydney’
U mention Montreal alot…the nightlife there is horrible…there lockout/final call is 3AM - Melbourne lockout/final call is non existent…24 hour city/nightlife
Did u ever leave Sydney?
I think australians need to hear this as we tend to get stuck in oir bubble. I would say that australia is a great place to call home but not the best place to live. Having said that I think with all that is going on in the world even woth all of our problems we are better off. Adelaide is home to me, but i like to get to the East Coast for all the fun things, but every time i go there, i am reminded why i dont want to live there. The quality of life here is the best.
I encourage all of my athletes to see the world and open their minds. But to know that while they do so they always have a home here. A place of refuge that is safe beyond measure.
100% agreed! It's definitely a massive privilege to have the Australian passport and have the option to go back home there if everything goes sour, just as a young adult it's worth the risk and time to go explore the world out there, grow and see how the rest of the world lives and operates
@LashanR Cheers for the response, mate. I think I am going to have to listen to the whole thing again today as it has stirred the intellectual juices.
I am interested in what has led to the nanny state, diminished market sector job opportunities, and investment issues. I wonder if there is any correlation that can be found in our short history as a country. I am more intrigued if there are practical policies that could be implemented to remedy these issues.
Stat tuned.
Great video lashan! Though I do like my nice boring life hahahaha. Interesting point RE tall poppy syndrome thing. Haven't really noticed that personally... Innovation is definitely lacking though.
Salut jeune homme.
Pleased that Montréal was such an eye opener for you; I remember hearing that very thing from many other students and work/visit visa holders.
In a way, it was a blessing in disguise that things got so wonky whilst you were here, otherwise - you might have missed out on all the European (UK) drama.
Just kidding. However, it did allow you to bounce around the Continent to your heart's content. Tu as même vécu à Paris pendant quelques semaines!
Got to practice your Français after all. You have clearly delineated the motivations behind your emigration to far off shores, nothing terribly shocking per sé.
A few Aussie feathers might be ruffled but, your truth cannot be denied. Perspectives based on life experiences are personal, nothing wrong with that fact.
You are finally in your groove, or appear to be getting there, so keep a stiff upper lip and carry on lad. Be well and stay safe.
Never say never mate. World is slowly turning into shit and EU won't last long - wars, illegal migration, high taxes, weak economy... Australia is the only place that is self-sufficient and far enough away from most of that shit.
I'm grateful that I have my Australian passport in case things go to hell, but I much prefer sticking it out here and seeing how things go 😅
Hey man,
Sorry you had had those experiences in Australia, and ofcourse your individual experience shape your perception.
I would strongly disagree about the tall poppy syndrome. What I think gets interpreted as the tall poppy syndrome is actually one of the best values in Australian culture, egalitarian, giving everyone a fair go. Very few countries allow working class people to afford a decent lifestyle compared to Australia. Australian society values human life (social safety net, free health care etc..) and there is a cultural aspect of everyone playing by the same rules. The same thing that allows few individuals to rise to the top by exploiting others like in US (minimum wage, poor working conditions) is the same thing that creates inequality, homelessness and degradation of normal people’s lifestyle. I don’t think there is so much of tearing someone down who is trying to succeed, it’s more reminding people, ‘you may have a fancy job but you gotta treat everyone with respect’.
I do agree about the dumb racialized humor here. It’s pretty cringe. Though I think it’s really moved in the right direction in the past 10 years. The new generation from different cultures has started owning their culture and there is a lot more nuanced debate about culture and race compared to 15 years ago. Still a long way to go though.
Tall poppy syndrome is everywhere in Australia and its got nothing to do with respect. It hinders innovation and growth because it's fundamentally toxic. Why should someone dictate to you exactly how successful you should be because they tell me my place? That is just ridiculous.
well said, well said
I'm in my mid-50s and born in Oz. I am leaving for Europe, a non-EU country to be with my wife. Oz has gone downhill so much and started in the early 1990s, and has become a 3rd world country....just look around. A YT channel talk about going where you are treated best and Oz with its fascist ideology and police state has lost it. The culture has gone. The language is hardly heard on the streets. Even in my job as a govt employee am not allowed to call each "mate" as it is an offence, so they say. The wokeness etc is beyond dumb and ridiculous. I believe the country is bankrupt since covid, like most other countries. Forget the cost of living, as who wants to live here when there is no culture, no real or true friendships, people are so self-absorbed, etc. The whole vibe of the country has flatlined. Oz will become like Canada or the UK in a very short period of time. And for those of you who think we are free here, Australia doesn't even have free speech in its legal system, so no, we cannot openly say what we want. The US has free speech. Australia does not. To live where you are treated the best, Australia is no longer even a consideration.
Wow, I thought I was the only one who thought all of this. Not to mention what happened during COVID when.people tried to protest and all the "mandated" vaccinations in order to keep your job. It's amazing how quickly people have forgotten too.
@@Bobafe77a Many ppl suffer from long-term memory loss. Anything beyond a week is lost and forgotten. Sad tbh and whyI i refuse to look at TikTok videos etc......anything that reinforces me to have a 30-second attention span needs to be abolished imoho
I feel so heard now
Many of these points come from underlying truths about Australia, but overall this just feels like you personally connect better with European / North American cultures. Those who connect with the culture could speak to many of the same topics in a positive light.
I do wish we capitalised on our natural advantages in the renewable energy space more aggressively (i.e. more risk), but expecting a nation of 25 million people to have thriving tech or arts industries like the US or Europe is a bit delusional.
Also, for those non-Sydneysiders who stumble upon this comment, the cliffs are fenced because many spots have historically been used for suicide. You need not travel far out of the city to find unfenced cliffs and unpatrolled beaches. Just now this has made me think: is the risk aversion of Australians a trait developed over time due to the vast and inhospitable landscape? All of us learn to swim, yet there are still so many drownings each year from people fishing or swimming far from help. Something to think about, appreciate the video.
Portugal has a population of a bit over 10 million people and has a thriving arts and culture scene, and a great tech industry on its own. There's obviously a want in Australia for arts and culture/entertainment but you can see from the calls of those industries that there has never been anywhere near enough support for them by successive governments. I think it's just as delusional to expect everyone wanting to work in those industries to up and leave like I did, and counter-productive if they gave up and worked in something they weren't as good at/passionate about. The skill and talent and drive is all there but it's untapped and wasted
With the cliffs they were put up during the time I was living in Sydney, I don't think a waist high fence would do much to deter somebody but it's indicative of the risk-averse nature of Aussie society
Thanks for your thoughts 😊
Yeah you might be right, the mainstream arts like neighbours have probably reached their natural limit, but as you say, there is little funding for anyone to go make something new and creative.
Couldn't agree more about the fences, starting a petition to double their height!
நன்றி! (Apologies, started learning Tamil only a week ago and had to take the opportunity, not sure if this is even the right context to use it haha)
“Where are you REALLY from?”
I hate this question so much. Thanks for encapsulating my frustrations with this
why? the whole country is a colony, just throw the question straight back at them.
Agree with so many points - however why did u only mention Sydney when discussing nightlife?? Even before the lockout laws Melbourne has always been the live music and nightlife capital of Australia - multiple venues with 24 hour licences u can party from Friday until Tuesday morning and not go home
Because I lived in Sydney for basically all of my adult life before I left Australia. I visited Melbourne a few times and yes the nightlife/music scene is better, I've had some fun times out, but it doesn't even remotely compare to the nightlife/music scene that exists in London, Berlin, Paris, and yes also Montréal. Even with things shutting at 3am in Montréal it was still better and more vibrant, and I was well into the music scene there working for Sofar Sounds. You can see the same trend when people online compare Melbourne nightlife to say Glasgow as well too - it's the best on an Australia scale but it's not up there on a world stage
@@LashanR I’m sorry - but your experience with nightlife and the music scene is not that of the same level of experience that I have - I work as a booker for DGTL festival in Barcelona and have been a booker/music programmer for the past 10 years on a full time basis and have DJed for the past 20 years - here is a fact for you ….Melbourne has a bigger scene than Montreal (it is not even comparable tbh) top tier DJ booking fees are legitimately 4 time the amount in Melbourne than what they would get paid in Montreal because there is far more demand for them in Melbourne as there is a bigger scene across multiple genres - yes melbourne is not comparable to Berlin and London (Paris is not as good as what it use to be but it is still better in Paris ) but please do not bring Montreal into this …completely off the mark here
Curious also what venues did u attend in Melbourne?
(I am sure u will not respond to this post btw)
Also because u prob think I am bullshitting with the above response talking about my experience (which I understand as aussies have tall poppy ;) ) here is what AI chat says comparing the 2
Type it in yourself to get the answer also:
What has a bigger music industry Melbourne or montreal:
‘Melbourne generally has a larger and more vibrant music industry compared to Montreal. Melbourne is known for its diverse music scene, hosting numerous music festivals, a wide range of venues, and a significant number of artists across various genres’
@@LashanR Here is more proof for you - from AI Chat
Do more music artist play in melbourne or Montreal?
While both Melbourne and Montreal are vibrant cities with rich music scenes, Melbourne tends to have a higher volume of live performances due to its larger population and diverse range of venues. Melbourne is known for its extensive live music culture, including a variety of genres and a strong local scene.
Can you please just admit your wrong here? Because you are…
I don't know what you're expecting out of a video about why _I_ left Australia. This video isn't why _you_ should leave Australia, or every reason to leave Australia. I knew someone would take this the wrong way which is why i have so many disclaimers in video yet it still happened 🤷🏽♂️
I lived in Montréal, and London, travelled around a ton and now I'm in Paris, obviously I'm gonna talk about my experiences. Sure the scene is smaller in Montréal. I don't even mention nightlife in Montréal in the video at all yet you're using this as the whole basis of your argument as if it invalidates everything else 😂 You even admit the scene in Melbourne isn't comparable to London or Berlin so why does it even matter?
I talk about Sydney nightlife in the video not just because of that single issue, but because of how the way it was handled is indicative of things that go way further than the nightlife industry - the nanny state/police state mentality, the government really not caring for young people, lack of funding in the arts, corruption, state of the media landscape etc.
I feel a lot of the same about the US, and I hear a lot of the same reactions when saying I want to leave the US, and I vibe with your thoughts on those sorts of reactions.
But really... Reason #10 and gun violence risk are going to be the biggest for me to leave the US.
Hope you're finding a solid footing wherever you are now!
Also, I'm mostly a "white" Australian. My family is from Scotland and England, and my mother's family are 4th generation Australian. I have a little Spanish and Indian blood thus I have dark hair and eyes, "Mediterranean features".
The amount of racism I have faced in Australia is unacceptable. I've had the "Where are you really from?" question posed to me all my life. I've been called antisemitic names and 'wog', targeted verbally and physically attacked because of this.
So I empathise with your remarks regarding racism.
I'm glad you have found a way out and enjoying life.
Nailed it!! Exactly why I have no desire what so ever to go back to Australia to live. There are many positives, however the negatives now outweigh them to really live there. Unfortunately by and large Aussies are institutionalised to how things are done in Australia and heartily drink the Government/Media Kool-Aid....
In Australia the government'holds many back.
Why do you prefer Montreal to Australia. For me they are pretty much same culture
They're very different in my opinion. Biggest thing is the tall poppy syndrome, at least amongst my friends and everyone I met it felt non-existent there - the creative industry, entrepreneur/tech scene were all thriving in comparison. The cost of living is a massive difference, I left Montreal in 2019 so my rent was still dirt cheap 😅 I know it's worse now but still cheaper than other places.
And that low cost of living really just affords you the ability to experiment with what you want to do in life without such harsh consequences as you would in Sydney or London. I was unemployed in Montreal the first 3-4 months I was there, cruising on savings, freelancing a little bit and that was totally fine - in London it took me 6 weeks to get my first job and that was cutting things extremely close lol.
There's a lot of other reasons as well from public transport to the city density/walkabillity, work-life balance etc etc
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hey , i literally thinking of moving to Australia, but wait.......
😅 Any particular part that made you reconsider? Haha
you had me until "best coffee in the world"
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Agreed. Over governed over taxed we have become the nanny state nanny country. Big banks have a stranglehold on the country. Politicians for many years are in bed with multnational companies who pay no tax or very little and when the Politicians leve politics they get a cushy job in these multinational companies. Its covert corruption at its best. Australia is unfortunately is not the lucky country it once was
I'm a Montrealer and have lived here all my life. Your description of Australia makes me laugh because it sounds so much like Montreal. Funny that a trip to Montreal would change your view of the world.
The grass is always greener as they say 😅 A change in environment makes a whole lot of difference
It's not the best place to raise a family...
Can you explain why?
The culture has become toxic and overly materialistic. It's difficult to find a decent person to share life with, as many people are becoming more egoistic. Housing prices are high, making it hard to establish a stable home..
The entrepreneurial spirit have faded, with little support for new ventures. Divorce rates are high, further complicating the idea of building a lasting family...
nice camera
Really bro I'm amazed by the colors. What's your setup?
haha thanks! I have a Sony A7C, and I do a lot of colour grading, there's a section of my digital nomad toolkit video where I go into detail about my setup th-cam.com/video/XC4RlQE9d5k/w-d-xo.html
Tall poppy happens everywhere. It's a friends group thing, not a geographical one.
It sounds to me : bored spooled Aussie talking:) always people don’t appreciate what they have: everywhere . There are tonnes opprtunities in Au. I came from Poland to Brisbane 6 years ago , started landscaping business and now I own 3 houses , got married ,travel overseas 2 times per year(Japan china so on)Literally noo waay I could do it in Europe ,in any country and yes Iconstantly see locals complaining about Australia:)
There are plenty start ups here (5th rank in the world Yes siper vibrant start up scene) Australia is more linked to Asia Pacific region and guess what : most people in the world live in this region. Europe and America isn’t the center of universe. Ridiculous. All about mind set up.
I disagree but thanks for sharing :)
But many migrants are moving to australia in doves :)
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Is that your real voice or are you having a laugh, mate?
Fuck good one! That'll teach him, champ
Why don't you sound Australian?
I've been living abroad for the last 7 years so my accent has gotten quite mixed 😅 Also living in Sydney your accent is quite neutral to begin with
just imagine how much better your life would have been if you grew up in sri lanka huh ?
And that's relevant because..?