I hope that one day you will come to London. If you do, I'd love to buy you a beer/coffee to say thank you for all the wonderful YT content you have given us.
Christopher, I have now had the pleasure of viewing many of your equipment videos. You provide a great balance of qualitative and quantitative information in just minutes. I am subscribed to your TH-cam chanel, and always looks for new videos you publish. Thank you for your effort!
Looking at your distortion test chart it looks to me as though the left hand side of the image is sharper than the right. Is it possible that your version of this lens is de-centred to some degree?
Looking good. I kind of wish you could test speedboosters/focal reducers with these kinds of lens comparisons to see If they make a difference in sharpness/aberration when taking a full frame lens and putting it on an APSc. Maybe one day.
Is it the adaptor giving the poor corner quality on the M3 or genuinely the lens? I don't see how corner sharpness on a crop sensor would be that much worse than the FF? Would be interested to see a chart sample image from an apsc dslr without the adaptor being needed. Anywho, great review vid as always 😊
The adaptor is just a spacer with electric contacts. I doubt there would be much difference between mirrorless and dslr apsc's. (subjectively I havent noticed any difference between my 70D and my M5 )
APSC sensors have a much higher pixel density, so any present optical defects will be magnified and something that wasn't visible on an FF sensor will have it's presence made known on APSC. What this result tells us is that the lens does present sharpness falloff quite quickly but it requires an APSC sensor to identify it. Unless you're putting it on a 5DSR, you'll be fine on FF.
It's complicated. On every different model of sensor(and all surroundings, in build filters ect. ect.), results will be different. That's reason why for example DxOmark test lens on all cameras they can. Or in another words. Full frame vs crop isn't the reason. Reason is it's different camera. And with each camera model results will be different.
What a nifty lens! Had never heard of it. Great find, and review (as always)! I appreciate that you included crop conversion for the equivalent f-number :-)
Excellent review as always!!! Where did you get the template to test the lenses against? I'd love to get one to test all my old lenses to get to know how each falls short.
I love the build. I like the sharp edges visually, although I bet they are worse in the hand. Hopefully one day all manual focus lenses will come with a click option on the aperture, since video is so big these days.
Hi Chris, great review! I am really interested in this lens, but I need focus confirmation for my Canon FF's. Do you think it would be possible to buy a Pentax or Nikon version of this lens and then purchase a Nikon to Canon chipped adapter to achieve focus confirmation?
Wondering how this would go on a Micro 4/3 (Lumix) sensor for video work? Not as concerned about sharpness so much as chromatic aberration. I understand the issue of pixel density on smaller sensors but I think M43 have smaller resolutions than most FF or APSC sensors? Great video as always
@chris would you please consider testing the tokina 100mm 2.8 macro. 350-400 us new. the images i have found on filckr look good. i tried to find it in your reviews but i did not see it. Thanks for all of the work you do.
I freaked when i see all that chrome on the back part of the lens mount. I am not surprised of to see the red cast at wide aperture. It is probably flare inside the camera from the chrome of the back of the lens. i see that all the time when you mount a lens on a cheap adapter with no flare blocking method inside or chrome or glossy black paint inside.
You use manual focus lenses quite often. I'm interested in knowing which way do you achieve focus with them? Using live view only or relying on your eyesight? (I wear glasses so usually it's a bit harder for me to eyeball it, but luckliy my Nikon does have an in-viewfinder focus assist, i don't know if Canons have this as well.)
great review Christopher 👍 *if possible*, as long as you got this lens... can you test it video performance on a micro 3\4 Camera with metabones T speed booster ultra or xl?
Great review. Chinese and Korean manual lens manufacturers produce constantly many new useful and affordable prime lenses for those who can not spent thousands of dollars and aren't lazy with manual focus. Japanese have conquered the world of photography with their lenses for a long time, now it's the time of Chinese and Koreans to take advantage of the manual focus aids of latest mirrorless cameras. Indeed the lens looks like a bright Zeiss ZM M-mount lens. I like that the de-click can be selected without a tool as it is common with other lenses. At f/1.2 the corners are not very soft and that is very good for the price of the lens. Of course such a lens will be nearly always used at f/1.2. Otherwise there are cheaper and better options.
Hi! how is focusing with the 6D viewfinder? does the lens give any AF confirm feedback or did you use liveview to get focus at f1.2? thanks for your reviews!
Dear Christopher, If you're putting this lens next to a Samyang 35mm 1.4 for nikon (fullframe). Which one comes out better considering build quality and optics? And size? Or are they the same size ish? Cheers
would you say the transmission is about 1.2 as well if you compare exposure times? i know i´m really late but maybe you still remember if it actually lets in more light than the typical 1.4
@@christopherfrost thanks for the reply and for your great reviews :) whenever i stumble upon a lense i consider, my first move is always to check your channel. no believer myself but i´m pretty sure you´re doing god´s work
I just bought this lens. it's sharper than I expected if u use it in real life. It's just not chart friendly. And the bokeh is much more beautiful and creamy than Samyang 35 1.4. It's become my new favorite
Howdy Chris... been following you since the I started to shoot dslr.. many thanks to your reviews I got a nice pocket friendly portrait setup (85 1.8, 50 1.8 on an old 5dm2)... I'm now looking for a budget wide zoom for wider dramatic portraits.. could you kindly review the ef 20-35mm usm.. many thanks and God bless you brother
Got a recommendation for apsc cameras with simular focal length? I'd love to have the sigma art lens but need to find something like half that price is this doable or should I just wait and save up for a better lens ?
+amon amos: The Samyang 1.4/35 works great on APS-C and has an amazing image quality wide open: www.flickr.com/photos/mike-mkvip/albums/72157669498164312 Ypu can get it used on eBay for under $300. For SONY E-mount there will even be an AF one in one or two months...
Prequel yeah I've been looking at it a lot today. not much price difference between that and samyang. seems like canon lenses always cost more, might as well wait and get the art and maybe I can come across a deal in the meantime. thanks for the replies guys.
Got this at a bargain price for $200 and its so much to shoot with. Its MF and quite a challenge but the f1.2 makes it possible to use at anytime of the day. I would say tho that its strength lies in it its video capabilities.
I had one but returned it. Very heavy and almost impossible to focus at f/1.2, not very sharp at f/1.2 either. Just get the Sigma 35 1.4 Art. Much better and usable wide open.
People were focusing manual lenses by eye from 1800. Just learn to do it. And things like Otus, Art, G were designed to be fast and very very sharp. But generally things like this lens, Leica Noctillus, Voighlander Nokton are design to be rather soft lens but very fast. Also designing sharp F1,4 lens is very hard, 1.2 is almost impossible with "normal price", 1.0 no fck way, making F1 usable is already HUGE achievement. Or in another words the faster lens is the more difficult(exponentially) it is to design and manufacture lens.
It look like lens. Some shapes, colored ring and other things is recognition bullshit of last years(with exception to Nikon and Canon that are a bit longer in that bullshit)
Manual doesn't have all kings of PCB, motors, gears ect. that take ~50% of body. so they can be very small by modern standards(by old standards it's huge lens).
Another cool, odd little lens from some obscure Chinese company. Put this one in the 'artistic' pile. I don't see any use for an f1.2 lens that becomes sharp at f5.6. I'm sure the t-stop is dreadful as well. I just don't understand putting oddball lenses on expensive, high tech cameras!
Godfrey Jemand That's why I mentioned the t stop. Like another Chinese lens, the Mitakon f/0.95 Speedmaster, that actually has a t stop of 1.4... I'm sure this thing isn't letting in t/1.2. Plus standard viewfinders are only capable of transmitting something like f/2.5-3.5 so everything below that is wasted. Even precision focusing screens optimized for fast lenses will only get you down to f/1.8.
i can see that chromatic aberation an coma usual for low price optics. Samyang 35mm AF much better. This lens renders like the 20mm from Samyang.Or some very old m42 lens.
I love your voice and the relaxing music in the background
I hope that one day you will come to London. If you do, I'd love to buy you a beer/coffee to say thank you for all the wonderful YT content you have given us.
A fantastic lens for the artisan! Not for the ordinary. Well Done Chris! Love your reviews.
Christopher, I have now had the pleasure of viewing many of your equipment videos. You provide a great balance of qualitative and quantitative information in just minutes. I am subscribed to your TH-cam chanel, and always looks for new videos you publish. Thank you for your effort!
Thanks!
Fantastic review, as always Christopher.
Looking at your distortion test chart it looks to me as though the left hand side of the image is sharper than the right. Is it possible that your version of this lens is de-centred to some degree?
Looking good. I kind of wish you could test speedboosters/focal reducers with these kinds of lens comparisons to see
If they make a difference in sharpness/aberration when taking a full frame lens and putting it on an APSc. Maybe one day.
Is it the adaptor giving the poor corner quality on the M3 or genuinely the lens? I don't see how corner sharpness on a crop sensor would be that much worse than the FF? Would be interested to see a chart sample image from an apsc dslr without the adaptor being needed. Anywho, great review vid as always 😊
The adaptor is just a spacer with electric contacts. I doubt there would be much difference between mirrorless and dslr apsc's. (subjectively I havent noticed any difference between my 70D and my M5 )
APSC sensors have a much higher pixel density, so any present optical defects will be magnified and something that wasn't visible on an FF sensor will have it's presence made known on APSC. What this result tells us is that the lens does present sharpness falloff quite quickly but it requires an APSC sensor to identify it. Unless you're putting it on a 5DSR, you'll be fine on FF.
It's complicated. On every different model of sensor(and all surroundings, in build filters ect. ect.), results will be different. That's reason why for example DxOmark test lens on all cameras they can.
Or in another words. Full frame vs crop isn't the reason. Reason is it's different camera. And with each camera model results will be different.
It's not the adaptor. It's the pixel density of the APS-C camera which is far, far more challenging for the lens
What a nifty lens! Had never heard of it. Great find, and review (as always)!
I appreciate that you included crop conversion for the equivalent f-number :-)
Excellent review as always!!! Where did you get the template to test the lenses against? I'd love to get one to test all my old lenses to get to know how each falls short.
I made it myself (it's not for sale though!)
Thanks for the response! Any tips for me to make one myself as well?
I just did mine in Microsoft Paint!! :-)
Oh gotcha! Is it all printed on one sheet? or a bunch taped together? And how large is the whole sheet?
Dude ur reviews are awesome but throwing in some portrait examples would be killer!
I normally do - just forgot to this time :-)
Thank you for doing this DSLR review.
I love the build. I like the sharp edges visually, although I bet they are worse in the hand. Hopefully one day all manual focus lenses will come with a click option on the aperture, since video is so big these days.
8:17 Cardiff! I love that sculpture!!!
Hi Chris, great review! I am really interested in this lens, but I need focus confirmation for my Canon FF's. Do you think it would be possible to buy a Pentax or Nikon version of this lens and then purchase a Nikon to Canon chipped adapter to achieve focus confirmation?
Hmm, no idea I'm afraid - try sending an email to their Amazon listing :-)
Wondering how this would go on a Micro 4/3 (Lumix) sensor for video work? Not as concerned about sharpness so much as chromatic aberration. I understand the issue of pixel density on smaller sensors but I think M43 have smaller resolutions than most FF or APSC sensors? Great video as always
I have this lens. It works very well on FF, but not on M43,,, actually most FF lenses don't work well on m43,,u had,better stick to native lens
@chris would you please consider testing the tokina 100mm 2.8 macro. 350-400 us new. the images i have found on filckr look good. i tried to find it in your reviews but i did not see it. Thanks for all of the work you do.
I freaked when i see all that chrome on the back part of the lens mount. I am not surprised of to see the red cast at wide aperture. It is probably flare inside the camera from the chrome of the back of the lens. i see that all the time when you mount a lens on a cheap adapter with no flare blocking method inside or chrome or glossy black paint inside.
You use manual focus lenses quite often. I'm interested in knowing which way do you achieve focus with them? Using live view only or relying on your eyesight?
(I wear glasses so usually it's a bit harder for me to eyeball it, but luckliy my Nikon does have an in-viewfinder focus assist, i don't know if Canons have this as well.)
TheInterMaus Canon has it too.
I shoot in liveview mode and zoom in to check focus
your reviews are great and very detailed. thanks for sharing O:)
great review Christopher 👍
*if possible*, as long as you got this lens... can you test it video performance
on a micro 3\4 Camera with metabones T speed booster ultra or xl?
If you buy me a Micro 3\4 Camera with metabones T speed booster ultra or xl, then sure :-)
hmmm... well, we have a saying in Arabic:
"The lion's den is never empty of bones" 😉
so hopefully you will soon 👍
Great review. Chinese and Korean manual lens manufacturers produce constantly many new useful and affordable prime lenses for those who can not spent thousands of dollars and aren't lazy with manual focus. Japanese have conquered the world of photography with their lenses for a long time, now it's the time of Chinese and Koreans to take advantage of the manual focus aids of latest mirrorless cameras.
Indeed the lens looks like a bright Zeiss ZM M-mount lens. I like that the de-click can be selected without a tool as it is common with other lenses. At f/1.2 the corners are not very soft and that is very good for the price of the lens. Of course such a lens will be nearly always used at f/1.2. Otherwise there are cheaper and better options.
chris ...have you any plans to review the 6Dmkii ?
Really tricky to find for Nikon F, haven't seen one for a long time.
Great review.
Hi! how is focusing with the 6D viewfinder? does the lens give any AF confirm feedback or did you use liveview to get focus at f1.2? thanks for your reviews!
Personally I wouldn't even try. I manually focus in liveview mode
The 6D has the option of having a manual focusing screen fitted.
Dear Christopher,
If you're putting this lens next to a Samyang 35mm 1.4 for nikon (fullframe). Which one comes out better considering build quality and optics? And size? Or are they the same size ish?
Cheers
The Samyang is a sharper lens
would you say the transmission is about 1.2 as well if you compare exposure times? i know i´m really late but maybe you still remember if it actually lets in more light than the typical 1.4
It was a long time ago that I tested but I remember it have unusually fast shutter speeds
@@christopherfrost thanks for the reply and for your great reviews :) whenever i stumble upon a lense i consider, my first move is always to check your channel. no believer myself but i´m pretty sure you´re doing god´s work
I just bought this lens. it's sharper than I expected if u use it in real life. It's just not chart friendly. And the bokeh is much more beautiful and creamy than Samyang 35 1.4. It's become my new favorite
Check out the significant chromatic aberration in the water at 4:09. If it catches my eye, it must be bad.
That's what water do. Nothing unusual there.
Please review new Tamron 100-400mm f4.5-6.3 VC
Howdy Chris... been following you since the I started to shoot dslr.. many thanks to your reviews I got a nice pocket friendly portrait setup (85 1.8, 50 1.8 on an old 5dm2)... I'm now looking for a budget wide zoom for wider dramatic portraits.. could you kindly review the ef 20-35mm usm.. many thanks and God bless you brother
No plans to review that lens I'm afraid. If it's for portraits, you should consider a wide angle lens with a fast maximum aperture, if possible
wow. beautiful lens for FF. So many blades. Just need camera with focus peak.
Use You eyes like it was done from 1800.
On a 20mp camera...sure, no problem!
Evaluating the price is better or worst of the canon 35 1.4?
Got a recommendation for apsc cameras with simular focal length? I'd love to have the sigma art lens but need to find something like half that price is this doable or should I just wait and save up for a better lens ?
+amon amos: The Samyang 1.4/35 works great on APS-C and has an amazing image quality wide open:
www.flickr.com/photos/mike-mkvip/albums/72157669498164312
Ypu can get it used on eBay for under $300.
For SONY E-mount there will even be an AF one in one or two months...
Mike Theobald thanks a ton I'll check this out
Get 18 35 Art. You can buy it used. Cheap compared to what you get. Don't go cheaper, you'll regret it.
Prequel yeah I've been looking at it a lot today. not much price difference between that and samyang. seems like canon lenses always cost more, might as well wait and get the art and maybe I can come across a deal in the meantime. thanks for the replies guys.
ATG has it in DZ Optics 35mm F1.2.
plz do a review on mitakon 50 0.95
Got this at a bargain price for $200 and its so much to shoot with. Its MF and quite a challenge but the f1.2 makes it possible to use at anytime of the day. I would say tho that its strength lies in it its video capabilities.
sir sigma 24-70mm art lens review please or tamron's new 24-70mm g2 please sir
harnam singh watch dustin abbott he reviewed those.
Prequel yes you are right but dustins review's are not good i need real world review not in details
harnam singh I watched it and as a Sigma lens user if you want to decide between those two I'd say definitely get Tamron G2.
Prequel i looking for a multipurpose lens like for portraits indoor sporst . some events is this good lens .. any other lens ? pls help
If you're on full frame it is. Not so much on APS-C.
Bismillah
Thanks for the video. You forgot the Pentax mount.
Cardiff Bay? Is that true???
This or Rokinon 35mm? I need one for Astro
The Rokinon will be sharper, really
Lovely 😊
Looks great - Samyang wins though, can't beat the price!
Suggest me telephoto lens for my canon 1300d
Being Sharp 55-200 stm
+Being Sharp
What price range? What use have you planned for it?
85 is perfect for crop, longer than that I found that too much
Should I buy 55-250 or 55-200
What is difference between ur suggestion and 55-250 does that 50mm makes difference between images
I had one but returned it. Very heavy and almost impossible to focus at f/1.2, not very sharp at f/1.2 either. Just get the Sigma 35 1.4 Art. Much better and usable wide open.
Namn L well. On Sony focussing will be easier
People were focusing manual lenses by eye from 1800. Just learn to do it.
And things like Otus, Art, G were designed to be fast and very very sharp. But generally things like this lens, Leica Noctillus, Voighlander Nokton are design to be rather soft lens but very fast. Also designing sharp F1,4 lens is very hard, 1.2 is almost impossible with "normal price", 1.0 no fck way, making F1 usable is already HUGE achievement. Or in another words the faster lens is the more difficult(exponentially) it is to design and manufacture lens.
Czorńy Lisek well. Thats not the whole story. Old cameras have focussing Screens dslr s not really.
The question should be how acceptable is the sharpness for portraits at maximum apertures
looks like those Irix lenses .
The real world pictures are great.
Great review as usual, sadly I can't say the same about the lens.
There is a 35mm f.95 in current production, another Chinese manual.
That could just be for APS-C cameras
tokina 16-28mm f 2.8 atx pro
Excuse me?
LOL the barrel looks like a Zeiss ripoff
It look like lens. Some shapes, colored ring and other things is recognition bullshit of last years(with exception to Nikon and Canon that are a bit longer in that bullshit)
It's actually a very good lens
How big are your hands??? I asked because this lens looks tiny in the vid, like some old rangefinder lenses
...
Manual doesn't have all kings of PCB, motors, gears ect. that take ~50% of body. so they can be very small by modern standards(by old standards it's huge lens).
Another cool, odd little lens from some obscure Chinese company. Put this one in the 'artistic' pile. I don't see any use for an f1.2 lens that becomes sharp at f5.6. I'm sure the t-stop is dreadful as well. I just don't understand putting oddball lenses on expensive, high tech cameras!
Godfrey Jemand That's why I mentioned the t stop. Like another Chinese lens, the Mitakon f/0.95 Speedmaster, that actually has a t stop of 1.4... I'm sure this thing isn't letting in t/1.2. Plus standard viewfinders are only capable of transmitting something like f/2.5-3.5 so everything below that is wasted. Even precision focusing screens optimized for fast lenses will only get you down to f/1.8.
A Carl Zeiss? 😶😶😶😶
Corners are sharpest at 1.2... That's weird.
That's what I see.
Don't kid yourself Chistopher.. Whose going to pay this price for a manual focus lens
Not kidding myself or anyone else :-) it's up to the viewer of the video whether or not this lens is good value for them.
i can see that chromatic aberation an coma usual for low price optics.
Samyang 35mm AF much better.
This lens renders like the 20mm from Samyang.Or some very old m42 lens.
Nah..................muzak.
TARRAH.
no likey but thanks for the video ^^
the same need you had to replay to my comment ^^
Too expensive
$700 for this piece of trash made in ChyNa... Thanks but NO thanks...
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