When this whole thing with the autistic girl first happened, I actually felt and still feel like the fact that they took offense to being compared to a lesbian, that *that* is the actual homophobic thing, not what the girl said. Being called a lesbian, unless it's clearly said with vitriol, is not in and of itself an insult. It's not a bad thing to be a woman who loves other women. I love other women. If someone said I looked like their lesbian relative, why would I take issue with that unless *I* was homophobic and hated lesbians, thus hated to be compared to a lesbian?
Also worth noting, pepper spray isn't legal for civilians to use for self defence. In fact, there are very few things people can use in self defence here in the UK, so it's disgusting that she's so readily turning to something that is illegal to spray civilians with. Short of being a more specialised or higher ranked officer, I feel like lower ranking officers shouldn't be allowed to use anything that ordinary civilians aren't allowed to use to defend themselves.
I was just telling my bf about this video and that's EXACTLY what I said. If you're taking a huge offense to being called a lesbian or saying "you look like my grandma who is a lesbian" then you're the one being homophobic! I genuinely think the kid was trying to compliment her, she loves her grandma and she wanted to find a way to compare that cop to her grandmother and she got arrested for it. Ridiculous.
Power tripping, no self control and getting other officers to back her up on this ridiculous escapade. Very poorly trained, no doubt, an absolute shambles.
@@JayneAFKSelf defense laws are absolutely retarded here in the UK. A better solution would be to allow citizens to actually defend ourselves, but mommy government always has to control what we do.
The police wanted to arrest this young woman for a public order offense, now forgive me if I'm wrong, but you can't arrest someone on the grounds of a public order offense when they're on their own property. As someone with a child with learning difficulties it makes me seriously question what training they're given for understanding those with complex needs.
The problem is that there already isn't enough police officers, and its not like they've figured out how to increase desire for young people to become police officers, so they are stuck in a beggars can't be choosers situation, because it's not like we can have no police at all.
Actually wrong, you can also be charged with a breach of the peace in your own property, the point to prove in law is that someone in sound mind may be offended or feel threatened with the behaviour, it isn’t unreasonable to conclude that a neighbour can fear what is going on in a private dwelling so the offence can be proved.
@@Osiris9216 I would agree if they wanted to arrest her on the grounds of breach of the peace, however it clearly states in numerous articles that they wanted to arrest her on a public order offense. According to the 1986 public order act a person cannot be arrested for a public order offense in a private dwelling.
i'm more embarrassed over the fact that they're picking on the kid rather than spending time doing what needs to be done, that right there is a complete bully mentality
@@nonews8247 I'm pretty sure the act states there is no offence if the suspect AND victim are in private dwellings. If, for example, you scream offensive things from a balcony in a private dwelling then you can still be arrested for public order offences. So really it's more about who can hear you as opposed to where the suspect is
Manchester UK here, was beside a taxi that went through a red light the other day. Police van right behind them. Didn't move an inch even after I pointed it out to them...
That Turok hat... A classic!! Also as someone on the Autism spectrum, I feel for that girl. Sensory overload is no laughing matter, and I can't imagine the sensory hell she went through being surrounded and pulled out of her home by police... And for something so simple and meaningless. A shame, those cops.
For those who live outside the UK this took place in West Yorkshire. The police force there (West Yorkshire Police) along with South Yorkshire Police are always being rocked by some scandal. This is just one of their lesser ones. Believe me, they've done some really deplorable sh**. Hillsborough is a perfect example.
Thatcherism runs deeps in the Yorkshire police. My friend is from Sheffield and she says kids grow up knowing to just avoid them like the plague. You look after yourself there because they won't look after you.
That was difficult to watch. I'm autistic too and I'm certain that girl meant what she said as a compliment because she's comparing that cop (who does look like a lesbian) to someone she loves, her nana. There's many reasons why us in the UK are losing/have lost faith in the British police force and that woman just added to it.
Why do you say she looks like a lesbian ,she looks like a woman ,just because she’s a cop , doesn’t mean she’s a lesbian, but was no need for the cop to get aggressive ,
@@valhipkiss4011because that is a VERY common HAIRSTYLE for lesbians. Being a cop has NOTHING to do with it. Things tend to be lumped in with large groups of people who use them. Lesbians tend to have that haircut. Don't like it oh well.
What is extremely scary as well, is the other police enforcement that was accompanying this woman. They did not even question her actions or try to de-escalate the situation at all. No process?? Just act now, ask questions later?? Terrible.
they never do! watch some "audit the audit" videos and you quickly notice that other police officers never stop their college no matter how much they fuck up
They did, which is why she's sitting there looking useless with her arms folded whiler her colleagues have to clean up her mess. They told her to sit out the actual detainment because of just how much chaos she caused. They also attempted to send one officer in to be more friendly when backup arrived and assessed the shtshow. Once this idiot called the arrest, they have to go through with it. Unfortunately that's just how cops work. They try not to second guess another officer out of a code of professional etiquette. Even in a non consequential white collar workplace, you're still not going to call someone out for a bad performance or cleaning up their result. You ususally do it silently and let the team leader, IC, or manager know just how much that person is making your job harder. The thought is that if you can make it as a cop, if you've gone through the training, passed the exams, you shouldn't question a colleagues decisions. There are rules on how you conduct calling out another cops work. It just can't be done during the arrest in front of the detainee. You will diminish their authority while they're trying to detain someone. That can be risky for the officer during the arrest and for furture arrests. That can really damage the confidence of an officer as well. I can guarantee you that being paired up with this woman is definitely punishment for disobedient officers. No one will want to work with this woman.
@@juliangrant9718Ngl, I see that as complete bullshit. If anything, it'd make cirizens respect officers MORE to see them correcting rach other in real time. That's called just saving fucking face. It's fake and everyone knows it.
My heart is absolutely broken for that poor child. As someone who is also autistic, I can tell you that we do have trouble picking up on social cues, and we sometimes say things people misinterpret and misunderstand. I can also say that if it were me going through that, especially at 16 years old, I would have had the same reaction, hiding and melting down. Oh my gosh hearing her sobbing and screaming just absolutely ripped my heart out. That officer should be damned ashamed of herself, and I agree with you. She should be fired. What a piece of trash!
Genuinely curious. Is the reason because she has weaponised her idenity (sexual orientation, gender etc) to the point where they are scared to reprimand her for fear of being sued?
@@OOhlUkaTmEImGanSTa We don't really do suing here AFAIK, but she probably has weaponised it. Maybe her dad or uncle or someone is in power so if someone upsets her she turns into a 5-y-o and just "I'm gonna tell my daddy on you!!".
@@OOhlUkaTmEImGanSTaI personally feel like a homophobic person would be more offended by being compared to a lesbian than a non-homophobic person Also I've seen someone else mention that professionals just don't correct each other in front of the customer, so once she calls the arrests, the other guys have to pull through with her bullshit It's likely she just has a pile of complaints with the higher ups not doing stuff about it
They need to be properly trained on how to handle people with Autism. She was clearly no physical threat and hiding from them out of fear. They could have completely set back her development by aggressively pulling her arms. Maybe she just started to be more confident and now this brings on new fears of leaving the house, police, etc
I remember this story. Its beyond awful. This is abuse of position as well as emotional and psychological abuse. She never should have been treated this way. Also, you can't be arrested for speach. Years ago there was a politician who call a police officer a twat, he didnt get arrested. There was a stupid inquiry over it, but he wasn't arrssted.
UK here, our police is a massive issue with how they handle mental health/disorders. They are underfunded, undertrained and too few in number to meet our needs because of this too. While these numerous police officers are swarming this house, all poorly handling how to interact with an autistic child, there are actual crimes taking place going undealt with because there aren't enough officers. It's ridiculous, we don't feel safe from crime or even from the police themselves if we mental health issues or mental disorders. I am Autistic and so are several family members. My autistic brother once said to a stranger who had a crooked nose, "you look like a witch". He said it with genuine curiosity and innocence. He wasn't saying it to be insulting, he just didn't understand social cues or tact to realise it could be interpreted as an insult. Saying "you look like nana who is a lesbian" is strange, but not insulting. Yet even if we pretended it could be insulting, they should have realised there was no ill intent the moment they learned she was autistic. Regardless, the moment the girl was having a panic attack, their priority should have been de-escalating the situation, not dragging her outside. That aside, this woman is simply not emotionally equipped to handle being a police officer. She is impulsive and aggressive, which is not what is desired. While iur police force has many issues, our police are generally known to be good people who are calm and good at de-escalation. She needs a career change.
Yup. In Australia I was manhandled and assaulted after my ex I’d broke up with that day essentially swatted me saying I was going to off myself. Because I had scars on my arms, I was dragged out of my home because I was non responsive and non verbal after loudly saying I was autistic and being ignored. I was screaming and crying and they thought I was drunk and on drugs. I had to get a friend to pick me up the next day from the suicide ward at the hospital ALL BECAUSE OF SCARS ON MY ARMS and having an autistic meltdown. I then proceeded to get a $3000 ambulance charge, to which I did not pay. Idk what came of that but they couldn’t get a name or anything out of me so I assume we just ignored it until we moved
@@aliway4136 Yeah you might be right but when I think of bad coppers I always think of him first then all his horrible copper mates that covered for him.
I'm a queer woman with an invisible physical disability and have a massive fear of the police. Not that I've ever done anything remotely illegal in my whole life, but I fear if I somehow ever get arrested during a protest rally or something they'll do a lot of harm to my body without listening to me explaining my medical issues.
I'm in the US and it isn't safe here either. I don't make eye contact very well, I wear baggy clothes, and I struggle socially, so even shopping can be pretty dangerous. I'm always worried that some cop is going to assume I'm doing something shady, which has happened before, and I'll react poorly and get shot. It's exhausting, and I can't imagine how stressed my mom must be.
Hey bud. Yeah, this woman is hated. But look up "Wayne Couzens" and "David Carrick" if youve the stomach right now for some real UK cop horror stories. Both convicted in last couple of years. Love the channel Daniel. 👍
@@samwindmill8264 i have (since you suggested to me) read about David Oluwale. His treatment was tantamount to systematic torture - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_David_Oluwale To all seeing this reply, PLEASE DO read the wiki page. And thanks to "SamWindmill" for bringing this to my attention .
I mean, those stories are horrific & unfortunately, those kind of monsters find their way on just about every police force across the globe, but it’s irrelevant to this case. This woman should absolutely still be called out for her complete abuse of authority & overly emotional response to a child’s comments.
Why do they need like 7 cops to deal with a girls comment? And why were they there to begin with? Don’t they have better things to deal with, like gang violence? That whole thing is over the top. I feel for the girl the way this went about and how they were pulling her arms trying to lift her even though they were told about her condition… wow.
Ok to be clear I'm not siding with the officers in any way The reason of why so many officers is because confined area with multiple occupants and 2 of them are deemed belligerent (also uk officers if I recall don't carry firearms) so over the radio the scumbag officer would requested back up on an arrest of a person (odds are on hate speech charges because of what the girl said) hiding in a room with noncompliant adults in a house. I personally think the officer should be dismissed and placed in prison.
I grew up with a autistic teen. They had a habit of saying what was on their mind. Sounds like she spoke out what she was thinking. It also doesnt sound malicious in anyway. Shes someone who has no filter in her brain so it goes straight to mouth. She probably doesnt understand how they could think her comment was meant as anymore then exactly what she said. The cops are loosing it over nothing. So sad.
I never saw this til now. I'm horrified. I have a daughter who just turned 20 in August. She is still very much a small child because she has severe autism. How could any cops let this happen? U can tell 100% that this girl like my daughter has obvious serious issues communicating. My daughter does talk but unless you have been around a lot she is very difficult to understand. It breaks my heart that,from what I see here,I should be glad that new people can't understand her. At least that keeps her safe from offending someone without having any clue why someone would be upset with her. This is just shocking and terrifying. 😢
So people who tell me/us women to carry some around for self defence is actually telling us to break the law XD How is one supposed to protect ourselves here? Everything seems illegal.
A someone who has as autism and has a sister whose also autistic, this pisses me off. I don't like being touched unless _I_ engage it or a family member like my mom for example. 😢
Many people must have said it already, but the worst part is that her whole team of officer going along with this BS. Nobody at any point had the epiphany to say "wait a moment, what the hell are we doing here, this is wrong". No, so everyone here is exactly as guilty as her, though she was the brat who threw the tantrum to begin with. The 2nd video is just a manual of how to not deescalate the situation lol.
i get called certain slurs directed at lesbians often even though i am bi and not a woman, and my response is usually "hey, f--k you" not "i'm going to put you in a situation to be assaulted by pigs." this lady is being very very petulant for whatever reason, and it's completely unacceptable that she is excused for doing that in a position of authority TO A CHILD. my son is 2 and has cerebral palsy and situations like this make me more pissed off and antagonistic towards cops than i already am. when my son's an adult and god forbid needs police assistance, are they going to hurt him because he was born with a disability? i've had run ins because i "wasn't acting right" and i'm able bodied, what would they do to him?
To take offence to the word lesbian is homophobic....this cop is disgusting and in my opinion seems corrupt and and should not be looking after the community. She seems like she loves a good power trip and doesnt care who is in her way.....she does look like a lesiban and saying that isnt homophobic its just what she looks like to me. THANKS FOR COVERING THIS❤
Lol, I had a young face, too. Throughout my 20's, I was called a lesbian by friends and strangers. Especially when I got haircuts my friends would say I look like a lesbian. I remember a mentally handicap guy at a bus stop started talking to me and then paused mid conversation and asked if I was a woman. Funny enough, growing long hair, I look a lot less like a woman. The beard might have something to do with it as well. Now I might just look like a M to F trans. On a side note, when she's standing there with her arms folded, looking down disapprovingly. I think she was more mad that she was told by other officers to sit out the actual detainment to de-escalate the situation. They're cleaning up her mess. You can tell they were trying to de-escalate when one officer went in to talk to the girl. He was trying to negotiate and talk to her calmly. By default they just have to go through with the arrest because that hypersensitive flatfoot called for the arrest. It's not like they can just refuse it once they realised the situation. I can see them being not very impressed with what she essentially made her colleagues do while she sat around being useless. They know she caused the heat to come down on their station. I don't imagine she'll last much longer as a cop. I doubt she will have much support from other officers. She's quite liable.
When my friends and I were in school we'd joke about UK laws around age. At sixteen we're legally adults, we can join the military, consent to sex, consume alcohol ect. But we have to be eighteen to buy something like Call of Duty and send explicit images.
16 isn't a legal adult in the UK at all. 16 Is just the age of consent, You can't buy alcohol or join the military until 18 & You can actually drink alcohol at home from 5, not 16.
People don't realize how intense ableism against autistic people is. It gets us hurt and even killed. I'm so glad that there was enough outrage for her to be let go, that enough people cared about this innocent autistic girl when so many people don't.
Based on the footage avalible publically, it seems to me this officer doesnt have any situational awareness skills and typically interprets events on the basis her emotional recations and then becomes entrenched in whatever narrative matches that emotional state. If you slow down the footage, her facial expression most often is of anger or contempt or a combination of both. That is not calm and in control policing.
thanks for covering this! I appreciate it as an autistic myself. The police field has far to go in terms of understanding us autistics, though theres also much yet to be learned by everyone who isnt diagnosed as autistic also. Especially in terms of more recent knowledge and facts, and past myths regarding autism. Just a few notes as an autistic person: Autistic spectrum isn't a spectrum of low-high autism. As autism is us literally having a different brain, an autistic brain. The spectrum is of traits. There's a massive spectrum of traits, and different sensory things that we can have a cluster of. So there's no slightly or severely autistic, we are autistic or we are not. And that language can cause people to believe that those who are high masking, e.g. someone who might appear "less autistic" to someone not clued up on autism, are less deserving accommodations as we are less autistic. Which is not the case. There are different traits that we can get many of, and thus we all experience our autism in a vastly different way to other autistics, we are all unique. But as i touched upon before, there is low masking and high masking. Some of us learn how to hide our struggles to those around us. Usually due to people conditioning us that it is bad and that we will be punished for showing our autistic selves and traits. This can lead us to appear more neurotypical, at the expense of us often breaking fully and melting down when alone alas. Which can cause more issues. Since we are splitting our brain computing power into lots of tasks that are difficult for us, whilst also doing what everyone else would have to do, which means we are essentially putting our brains on overdrive and overloading them. Due to some of us being high masking, due to learning we have to, as well as us all having varying traits and issues from our brain being autistic, people often have the interpretation that we are either slightly autistic or severely autistic. Some of us have seemingly higher support needs, and others seemingly lower, though to what extent no one can truly know due to masking often being something that can impact how we appear to be handling things. I can look like I'm doing fine, but internally I'm suppressing everything visually to others, with all my might until I manage to get to somewhere I'll be alone (if i can), at which point i have a very bad meltdown. But generally long story short, there's no "less autistic", "more autistic" kind of thing, it's just different ways in which we experience our autism and how it displays. I'm high masking, but it doesn't take away my sensory issues. I would still meltdown with loud noise, being restrained or touched by anyone I don't give permission to, and being confined to a small space. I still need to use noise cancelling headphones most of the time. I struggle socialising with others without it revolving around special interests. Yet even still, someone like yourself might consider me to be only "slightly autistic", due to me masking, which is a survival tool some of us develop for our survival growing up. -- And for the record, it was only since being diagnosed a few years ago that I understood and learned about all of this, from other autistics myself, as well as the post diagnostic group sessions provided by the NHS. And since the Health services yet have much to do in outwardly to the general public, in terms of eradicating myths and correcting language used in the past that is not accurate with to todays knowledge; I can't blame others for not knowing. Though what is within my ability is to comment to add further info that is more updated and comes from the MH autistic diagnosis services themselves. -- Thankyou for reading my ted talk about language surrounding describing us neurospicy autistic pals. Thanks for reading lol
Thank you so much for explaining this! I'm also autistic, and I have a hard time explaining this to people. I have a hard time coming up with the right words, as it's a lot of information.
My doctor told me im on the autistic spectrum and I don't know what that means. I have adhd, sensory issues and problems with... other people. I have what I call bursts of adrenaline, which is either a good one or a bad one. They are almost like tics. I dont even know the words for the feelings inside, I just try relate them to what others have explained. Theres a lot of things in this world I dont understand, my brain is one of them. And my knees. I get this ugly feeling in my legs where I need to get up and do stuff or it gives me negative feelings. 😂😂
Good grief! I hadn't heard about this. I live in the UK & I'm happy to say that, in my experience at least, this woman isn't a typical example of the police here, thank god! Thanks for covering this.
looking at a lot of body cam footage, you would think they'd be used to so much worse like they're fr getting cussed out on the daily by people who are getting arrested for shit like murder but god forbid a regular citizen calls them a lesbian
That poor young girl. I hat that this has happened to her. I hope she is able to get back to a stable happy healthy place after this bullsnit incident. If that police officer is willing to do that to a minor child and onlookers. I fear to see what she would do in a position where it is a lot more high stress. Someone higher up needs to hold this person accountable for her childish behaviour and temper tantrums.
There should be a distinction on the hate speech thing. For example if I call her a b!tch it won't be because she's a lesbian, it will be because she's acting like one. And that would be totally different from me saying "B!tch please" to a friend. In both instances I won't expect to be charged for hate speech, what would be hate speech is if I just saw her one day and unprovoked started calling her names, sending her hate mail etc.
The irony is that if the officer is a lesbian and was offended by being called one she's indirectly saying that to be just referred to as a lesbian is homophobic or that the word lesbian is somehow a slur. On the other hand if she isn't and got offended by being called one then she would be the one that's homophobic in this scenario lol.. either way it's a lose lose for the officer but imagine calling someone homophobic in the midst of you doing something inadvertently homophobic loll On the topic of better training for officers I completely agree. In 2015 I was all aboard the defund the police train but I've come to realize that that's probably the worst thing we could do as far as creating a better and healthier relationship between civilians and officers. I know in Toronto they started offering different services for officers yoga classes therapy sensitivity training how to deal with different mental illnesses and addictions. The last thing you want is to encounter an angry officer that is not well equipped mentally to handle various situations and on top of it be stressed out and always in a bad mood because they can't make ends meet. I don't think they should get bonuses for no reason but there could be some money set aside to train them better and help them decompress after a shift not take that home with them and then spilling into the next day.
This is so scary...the fact that they can use whatever words said as "hate speech" even though its entirely subjective, to silence you, is extremely concerning and as a society, we should tread carefully. Mark my words, they will use this law as a way to silence people over time.
Once in high school one of the Special Ed kids who was profoundly disabled, likely autistic, walked towards me with his hand up, it was a gesture kids made back then when they wanted to shake your hand, and I interpreted it that way. I put my hand out too and he grabbed it, then he just FROZE and clamped down on it, staring me in the eyes super-intensely. It was like he was on another planet until the moment we touched and then, got drawn into some other dimension the moment we touched, it was so odd. A helper who was behind monitoring others ran up and wrenched his hand off of mine, it was an odd and interesting experience, lol. On the subject of sensory overload... I have an overactive occipital lobe, it causes this visual static syndrome thing which, makes you see snow like the HBO logo overlayed on everything, see trails with movement, after images, and coming in from outside, or outside in a clear day if I look at the sky, i see the same kind of auras that people with migraines see But something I've noticed too is certain visual patterns... Especially certain width, uniform dark and light stripes like, light on venetian blinds, or steel pole fences approached from a certain angle, give me the strangest feeling in my head. Almost like a tickle or an itch, but it is very uncomfortable, I try to not look to avoid it. But I wonder if that isn't similar to some of those hypersensitivities people have from other mechanisms.
It's people like her that make my CJ - Cultural Awareness Class part of my core curriculum. It is literally "It's wrong to be mean to people because they are different," is all that class really teaches. I'm relearning what the Beirstein Bears taught me because officers like her.
I mean this unironically, the maxtac/overly agressive exo suit wearing ambulance from cyberpunk are actually more reasonable and less tyrannical than this woman.
I'm in uk essex and actively have meets on how police treat disabled people and they have told me there's no such thing as a hate crime. Only crimes that may have a gate element to them
There is a way to properly do the job in most cases while mainting utmost respect and empathy by using common sense and taking the time to deescalate the situation and act accordingly on a case by case basis. The major lack of information gathering and formulating the proper plan for the situation has become a thing of the past..
The police situation over here is only going to get worse. I don’t know all of the details but due to many factors the older/ experienced police officers are all leaving (they’ve had enough) and we’re left with younger less experienced coppers.
Kinda comes across as the cop is being homophobic for just being called lesbian. Also are the cops this badly taught about mental health? Autistic people need more care and not more trauma. Thank you for bringing this up for people to be aware of. Gosh this is so sad...
Hearing about this again just upsets me so much. As an autistic person myself i need so bad for this to have a somewhat happy ending because the way this country treats autistic people is just going to get worse. I already mask my autism as much as possible in the hope that nothing like this could ever happen to me. I am legitimately scared shitless and crushed into depression this world has done nothing but hurt me and many other people just like me
Calling someone a 4.25.11.5 or 6.1.7.7.15.20, for starters is a HELL of a homophobic slur. Saying "Mummy, that cop looks like she's a lesbian like Nana!" is more an observation than a slur.
Also it doesn't help that Yorkshire police are amongst the most hated - and allegedly - the most corrupt. This woman is detestable, and the sooner she's fired the better.
That's if she doesn't end up in a box for being that .... Hostile (risks of an officer and all ) I am also betting she ends up in prison for pissing off the wrong person
I have Aspergers. I'm autistic but I'm borderline. I seem Normal but without even my knowing I'll get Sensory overload and have random Panic attacks. The result of one of them got me arrested. Now I do not remember the Attack. All I know is I began to react violently. Which is agents my otherwise normal nature. In this case I came around just as the police came to arrest me. I didn't know what I had done. However, I had the awareness to know whatever it was, the cops were called on me. I politely told them. "Here are my wrist. Cuff me... put me in the back of your car. I will not reset you. I am harmless, I am unarmed." I did my best to pretend to be a wet noodle. No matter how much it hurt or how scared I was. It Was HARD, but everything turned out fine. I knew to do all of this because I was fortunate enough to have grown up around somebody who was a cop and knew of my mental condition, Then again.... I don't live in England.
I'm autistic and I'd handle this better than the cop did. If she was bothered by the (from the sounds of it) a compliment, she should've calmed down and talked to the teen in a calm tone saying: "I'm sure you mean what you said in good faith but, I don't like being compared to someone you know." NOT PUTTING AN ALREADY STRESSED PERSON IN A WORSE SITUATION! Much less that being the immediate response. I'd be flattered if I reminded someone of a loved one personally. The officer should be serving time cause this reflects poorly on the system as a whole and the system needs to face some reform to handle these situations better.
My son is autistic and I’m on the spectrum as well. My son used to have huge meltdowns similar to this when he’d get overwhelmed and those situations were very mishandled at his old school to the point where I had to storm in and just take him out of that school permanently. Ughh it just makes my stomach flip upside down watching the clips of this girl getting manhandled and traumatized like this. I honestly can’t even finish watching it. Those cops should have left her alone and they don’t need to be stepping in unless the primary caregiver asks for their assistance. They’re only doing harm and making things escalate with their unnecessary involvement. 🤦🏻♀️😮💨
I have autism and CFS (chronic fatique). Not as severe autism like that poor girl. But believe you me when we get overwhelmed and tired in situations where we feel like we can't escape a situation or someone we react. This poor girl seemed scared, I usually get really aggressive and starts shouting and my breath become somewhat of a panic attack. And if people don't back off I can black out and have no control over what I am doing. Since we are wired differently aggression comes out when you are scared and feel trapped. The same as anger is a sign of actually being sad and crying comes out when you are angry. We just work different then others. And if I can't be in a room with people because I am mentally overwhelmed by all the noise I have to go home and just be alone. Sometimes we also get caught in a vaccum where we don't want to be alone but we are also so mentally tired of being social with friends and family that both sides of that vaccum is just hard to get out of.
I'm in the UK but obviously under a rock as I heard nothing about this til now. WTF, this actually sickens me! And then has to gaul to pepper spray like a MANIAC in that crowd! How the hell is she not in trouble?!
As a mom of an autistic child this scares the absolute shit out of me… if the cops did this to my kid then I’ll slap them with a lawsuit so fast. This is just f-ing insane.
She is an officer with Yorkshire Police. Yorkshire Police were very lucky with the original incident distracting from a far more serious story at the same time. A Royal Marine Commando won a defamation case against the force and is calling for a public inquiry..... But the story was lost in the noise of the "Lesbian Nana" story.
so she got off Scott free after putting a girl through immense stress and trauma. that's disgusting, and all too common, and it being common is also disgusting. she should be stripped of her badge immediately.
yeah the girl was autistic and saying something like 'you look my lesbian nan' to the police officer is hardly an insult and not a slur. And I heard (although cannot confirm) that her grandmother 'was' actually a lesbian and having a relationship with a woman. So I dunno.
I live in Leeds, and I'm neurodivergent and it really is a friendly warm city and I love living here. Unfortunately there is a problem with police sometimes who do go on power trips and they are often completely unable to deal with mental health, neurodivergent and lawful protests. By the way, we do have hate speech laws, but it has to incite hatred or invite violence. Someone who keeps saying slurs may be slapped with a public order charge but not hate speech.
The way she acted, I think this cop is use to comments like that and there's probably already been rumors and she used it as the opportunity to "really show" everyone once and for all that she IS NOT gay 🤦♀️🤷♀️
Looking at these two videos back to back, this officer needs to be dismissed, along with a high recommendation to get anger management courses, this person is not fit to patrol the streets.
Shame on any of her colleagues that haven't been constantly reporting her to internal investigations & lobbying for her to be fired. I can only assume that's why she still has a job, that nobody likes her but nobody wanted to break that blue wall either & was just hoping she'd be stuck on a desk job forever. Absolutely sickening
The police officer took offence to looking similar to a lesbian. The homophobia is actually from the cop, she clearly finds it an offence to be referred to as a lesbian, what's offensive about that?
@@Roadent1241 Well, thank goodness there are stalwart souls such as yourself that are prepared to fight back. I have unfortunately seen an awful lot of footage of Brits either complying or being forced to comply with ridiculous and draconian hate speech laws. It will be wonderful to see you all be more civilly disobedient.
Poor kid! She must be going through a unbearable amount of anxiety during this “example of police bravery and heroism “ ! Did anyone find out if she is a lesbian?
I have autism and i work 1:1 with an autistic 12 year old and truly he just doesn't have a verbal filter and sometimes things he doesn't mean as rude comes off that way. I worry about something like this happening to him
I think getting upset over a girl saying you look like a lesbian in what was clearly not an insult type of way is actually more homophobic. What’s wrong with looking like a lesbian? Also as a lesbian she does. I’m sure others have said she does too. The moment I cut my long hair those were immediately the comments I got. Also most of the time when autistic people make comments like that they aren’t inherently trying to be insulting just like little kids (not that they are the same even if they cognitively are on the same level) they’re just very honest sometimes. It’s not really meant to be hurtful.
Did they even have a warrant? I doubt it. They should have never gone in that house seeing as no one was in any danger. The trust in the police force here in the UK in threw the floor
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When this whole thing with the autistic girl first happened, I actually felt and still feel like the fact that they took offense to being compared to a lesbian, that *that* is the actual homophobic thing, not what the girl said. Being called a lesbian, unless it's clearly said with vitriol, is not in and of itself an insult. It's not a bad thing to be a woman who loves other women. I love other women. If someone said I looked like their lesbian relative, why would I take issue with that unless *I* was homophobic and hated lesbians, thus hated to be compared to a lesbian?
Also worth noting, pepper spray isn't legal for civilians to use for self defence. In fact, there are very few things people can use in self defence here in the UK, so it's disgusting that she's so readily turning to something that is illegal to spray civilians with. Short of being a more specialised or higher ranked officer, I feel like lower ranking officers shouldn't be allowed to use anything that ordinary civilians aren't allowed to use to defend themselves.
I was just telling my bf about this video and that's EXACTLY what I said. If you're taking a huge offense to being called a lesbian or saying "you look like my grandma who is a lesbian" then you're the one being homophobic!
I genuinely think the kid was trying to compliment her, she loves her grandma and she wanted to find a way to compare that cop to her grandmother and she got arrested for it. Ridiculous.
Power tripping, no self control and getting other officers to back her up on this ridiculous escapade. Very poorly trained, no doubt, an absolute shambles.
I'm with you on that
@@JayneAFKSelf defense laws are absolutely retarded here in the UK.
A better solution would be to allow citizens to actually defend ourselves, but mommy government always has to control what we do.
The police wanted to arrest this young woman for a public order offense, now forgive me if I'm wrong, but you can't arrest someone on the grounds of a public order offense when they're on their own property. As someone with a child with learning difficulties it makes me seriously question what training they're given for understanding those with complex needs.
The problem is that there already isn't enough police officers, and its not like they've figured out how to increase desire for young people to become police officers, so they are stuck in a beggars can't be choosers situation, because it's not like we can have no police at all.
Actually wrong, you can also be charged with a breach of the peace in your own property, the point to prove in law is that someone in sound mind may be offended or feel threatened with the behaviour, it isn’t unreasonable to conclude that a neighbour can fear what is going on in a private dwelling so the offence can be proved.
@@Osiris9216 I would agree if they wanted to arrest her on the grounds of breach of the peace, however it clearly states in numerous articles that they wanted to arrest her on a public order offense. According to the 1986 public order act a person cannot be arrested for a public order offense in a private dwelling.
i'm more embarrassed over the fact that they're picking on the kid rather than spending time doing what needs to be done, that right there is a complete bully mentality
@@nonews8247 I'm pretty sure the act states there is no offence if the suspect AND victim are in private dwellings. If, for example, you scream offensive things from a balcony in a private dwelling then you can still be arrested for public order offences. So really it's more about who can hear you as opposed to where the suspect is
Meanwhile there's a genuine crime taking place...and these officers are wasting their time on this!
Manchester UK here, was beside a taxi that went through a red light the other day. Police van right behind them. Didn't move an inch even after I pointed it out to them...
These are the same cops who let crime & SA run rampant so they didn’t appear racist. Every citizen under their watch should be terrified.
Even if it was derogatory. The cop is still a childish adult with power she shouldnt have. It's just words.
The way she was sulking-!
right?? even if you arrest an *allistic* teenager for throwing a stupid insult at you on their own property, that is WAY too far
That Turok hat... A classic!!
Also as someone on the Autism spectrum, I feel for that girl. Sensory overload is no laughing matter, and I can't imagine the sensory hell she went through being surrounded and pulled out of her home by police... And for something so simple and meaningless. A shame, those cops.
She must have been terrified. COMPLETELY out of order. An innocent comment said to her mum..... and overheard by an insecure, powertripping cop
That's what you get for falling for this bullshit gender cult. East Germany 2.0. That should have been shut down HARD the moment it started.
@@bluecollarcanuckare you stupid on purpose
I'm not autistic but have strong adhd and issues with sensory overload because of it
This is so triggering to watch and hear.. this poor girl.
I have nothing, no add, not on the spectrum, and even I would have found that situation terrifying, confusing, and just Hell. Disgusting.
For those who live outside the UK this took place in West Yorkshire. The police force there (West Yorkshire Police) along with South Yorkshire Police are always being rocked by some scandal. This is just one of their lesser ones. Believe me, they've done some really deplorable sh**. Hillsborough is a perfect example.
My mum worked in A&E in Sheffield the night of Hillsborough. She won't talk about it, it upsets her too much. The whole mess is deplorable
Thatcherism runs deeps in the Yorkshire police. My friend is from Sheffield and she says kids grow up knowing to just avoid them like the plague. You look after yourself there because they won't look after you.
West & South Yorkshire Police always have scandals from Hillsborough to rape gangs in multiple towns
I will always say this, and will never change this opinion:
I have seen SEAT BELTS better at conflict resolution than the police.
Seatbelts protect you more than the cops do
That was difficult to watch. I'm autistic too and I'm certain that girl meant what she said as a compliment because she's comparing that cop (who does look like a lesbian) to someone she loves, her nana.
There's many reasons why us in the UK are losing/have lost faith in the British police force and that woman just added to it.
Why do you say she looks like a lesbian ,she looks like a woman ,just because she’s a cop , doesn’t mean she’s a lesbian, but was no need for the cop to get aggressive ,
@@valhipkiss4011 Why is it an insult to be called a lesbian?
@@valhipkiss4011did you forget that the girl who said it is autistic
So what? Why are a cops FEELINGS more important than a CITIZENS FREEDOM????????
@@valhipkiss4011because that is a VERY common HAIRSTYLE for lesbians. Being a cop has NOTHING to do with it. Things tend to be lumped in with large groups of people who use them. Lesbians tend to have that haircut. Don't like it oh well.
Weird how those types of law enforcement individuals only do that to the vulnerable elderly or children, and not the real criminals.
What is extremely scary as well, is the other police enforcement that was accompanying this woman. They did not even question her actions or try to de-escalate the situation at all. No process?? Just act now, ask questions later?? Terrible.
they never do! watch some "audit the audit" videos and you quickly notice that other police officers never stop their college no matter how much they fuck up
Are you suprised with this?
@Paul__Allen she said it was scary not surprising
They did, which is why she's sitting there looking useless with her arms folded whiler her colleagues have to clean up her mess. They told her to sit out the actual detainment because of just how much chaos she caused. They also attempted to send one officer in to be more friendly when backup arrived and assessed the shtshow. Once this idiot called the arrest, they have to go through with it. Unfortunately that's just how cops work. They try not to second guess another officer out of a code of professional etiquette. Even in a non consequential white collar workplace, you're still not going to call someone out for a bad performance or cleaning up their result. You ususally do it silently and let the team leader, IC, or manager know just how much that person is making your job harder. The thought is that if you can make it as a cop, if you've gone through the training, passed the exams, you shouldn't question a colleagues decisions. There are rules on how you conduct calling out another cops work. It just can't be done during the arrest in front of the detainee. You will diminish their authority while they're trying to detain someone. That can be risky for the officer during the arrest and for furture arrests. That can really damage the confidence of an officer as well. I can guarantee you that being paired up with this woman is definitely punishment for disobedient officers. No one will want to work with this woman.
@@juliangrant9718Ngl, I see that as complete bullshit. If anything, it'd make cirizens respect officers MORE to see them correcting rach other in real time. That's called just saving fucking face. It's fake and everyone knows it.
My heart is absolutely broken for that poor child. As someone who is also autistic, I can tell you that we do have trouble picking up on social cues, and we sometimes say things people misinterpret and misunderstand. I can also say that if it were me going through that, especially at 16 years old, I would have had the same reaction, hiding and melting down. Oh my gosh hearing her sobbing and screaming just absolutely ripped my heart out. That officer should be damned ashamed of herself, and I agree with you. She should be fired. What a piece of trash!
It's not the first incident that cop has had... but no one in the police here are willing to deal with her.
Why though? She's being a child. She should be treated like one. Her gender and orientation aren't a pass.
Genuinely curious. Is the reason because she has weaponised her idenity (sexual orientation, gender etc) to the point where they are scared to reprimand her for fear of being sued?
@@OOhlUkaTmEImGanSTa We don't really do suing here AFAIK, but she probably has weaponised it. Maybe her dad or uncle or someone is in power so if someone upsets her she turns into a 5-y-o and just "I'm gonna tell my daddy on you!!".
@@OOhlUkaTmEImGanSTathat’s a possibility, but I just think general apathy is more to blame.
@@OOhlUkaTmEImGanSTaI personally feel like a homophobic person would be more offended by being compared to a lesbian than a non-homophobic person
Also I've seen someone else mention that professionals just don't correct each other in front of the customer, so once she calls the arrests, the other guys have to pull through with her bullshit
It's likely she just has a pile of complaints with the higher ups not doing stuff about it
They need to be properly trained on how to handle people with Autism. She was clearly no physical threat and hiding from them out of fear. They could have completely set back her development by aggressively pulling her arms. Maybe she just started to be more confident and now this brings on new fears of leaving the house, police, etc
I remember this story. Its beyond awful. This is abuse of position as well as emotional and psychological abuse. She never should have been treated this way. Also, you can't be arrested for speach. Years ago there was a politician who call a police officer a twat, he didnt get arrested. There was a stupid inquiry over it, but he wasn't arrssted.
UK here, our police is a massive issue with how they handle mental health/disorders. They are underfunded, undertrained and too few in number to meet our needs because of this too. While these numerous police officers are swarming this house, all poorly handling how to interact with an autistic child, there are actual crimes taking place going undealt with because there aren't enough officers. It's ridiculous, we don't feel safe from crime or even from the police themselves if we mental health issues or mental disorders.
I am Autistic and so are several family members. My autistic brother once said to a stranger who had a crooked nose, "you look like a witch". He said it with genuine curiosity and innocence. He wasn't saying it to be insulting, he just didn't understand social cues or tact to realise it could be interpreted as an insult.
Saying "you look like nana who is a lesbian" is strange, but not insulting. Yet even if we pretended it could be insulting, they should have realised there was no ill intent the moment they learned she was autistic. Regardless, the moment the girl was having a panic attack, their priority should have been de-escalating the situation, not dragging her outside.
That aside, this woman is simply not emotionally equipped to handle being a police officer. She is impulsive and aggressive, which is not what is desired. While iur police force has many issues, our police are generally known to be good people who are calm and good at de-escalation. She needs a career change.
Yup. In Australia I was manhandled and assaulted after my ex I’d broke up with that day essentially swatted me saying I was going to off myself. Because I had scars on my arms, I was dragged out of my home because I was non responsive and non verbal after loudly saying I was autistic and being ignored. I was screaming and crying and they thought I was drunk and on drugs. I had to get a friend to pick me up the next day from the suicide ward at the hospital ALL BECAUSE OF SCARS ON MY ARMS and having an autistic meltdown. I then proceeded to get a $3000 ambulance charge, to which I did not pay. Idk what came of that but they couldn’t get a name or anything out of me so I assume we just ignored it until we moved
No the most hated copper in the UK is Wayne Couzens RIP Sarah Everard.
Seconded. Couzens is a national disgrace.
@@AngSco30 💯
I think he means still serving
@@aliway4136 Yeah you might be right but when I think of bad coppers I always think of him first then all his horrible copper mates that covered for him.
Here here.
She's a danger to her fellow cops with her acting out like that. She'll get someone killed.
As someone with autism I would love to see your input as how wrong and close minded it seems to me
Like it almost seems like a joke how disgusting this comment is
This essentially means to me that all autistic people are dangerous which is never true
@@kluulabeast1126the cop isn't the autistic one
@@Gambit0590 that still doesn't answer my question lmao
The fact that not one of those officers said “maybe this doesn’t need to be happening” is unreal to me.
She seems real wild attacking a child because she said you look like my lesbian grandma
My kiddo is autistic and she has a fear of the police for this exact reason. Id sue because this is bs
So do I
@@callanightshade8079I moved to a from the UK. So glad
I'm a queer woman with an invisible physical disability and have a massive fear of the police. Not that I've ever done anything remotely illegal in my whole life, but I fear if I somehow ever get arrested during a protest rally or something they'll do a lot of harm to my body without listening to me explaining my medical issues.
I'm in the US and it isn't safe here either. I don't make eye contact very well, I wear baggy clothes, and I struggle socially, so even shopping can be pretty dangerous. I'm always worried that some cop is going to assume I'm doing something shady, which has happened before, and I'll react poorly and get shot. It's exhausting, and I can't imagine how stressed my mom must be.
Hey bud. Yeah, this woman is hated. But look up "Wayne Couzens" and "David Carrick" if youve the stomach right now for some real UK cop horror stories. Both convicted in last couple of years.
Love the channel Daniel. 👍
To go way back in the past, how about the cops who harassed and caused the death of David Oluwale all the way back in 1969 in Leeds?
I saw the videos thumbnail and immediately thought - that isn't Wayne.... Or the people that blamed Sarah. However she is still a nasty nasty woman :/
@@samwindmill8264 i have (since you suggested to me) read about David Oluwale. His treatment was tantamount to systematic torture - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_David_Oluwale
To all seeing this reply, PLEASE DO read the wiki page. And thanks to "SamWindmill" for bringing this to my attention .
I mean, those stories are horrific & unfortunately, those kind of monsters find their way on just about every police force across the globe, but it’s irrelevant to this case. This woman should absolutely still be called out for her complete abuse of authority & overly emotional response to a child’s comments.
Why do they need like 7 cops to deal with a girls comment? And why were they there to begin with? Don’t they have better things to deal with, like gang violence?
That whole thing is over the top. I feel for the girl the way this went about and how they were pulling her arms trying to lift her even though they were told about her condition… wow.
Ok to be clear I'm not siding with the officers in any way
The reason of why so many officers is because confined area with multiple occupants and 2 of them are deemed belligerent (also uk officers if I recall don't carry firearms)
so over the radio the scumbag officer would requested back up on an arrest of a person (odds are on hate speech charges because of what the girl said) hiding in a room with noncompliant adults in a house.
I personally think the officer should be dismissed and placed in prison.
I grew up with a autistic teen. They had a habit of saying what was on their mind. Sounds like she spoke out what she was thinking. It also doesnt sound malicious in anyway. Shes someone who has no filter in her brain so it goes straight to mouth. She probably doesnt understand how they could think her comment was meant as anymore then exactly what she said. The cops are loosing it over nothing. So sad.
that's basically me
The police discriminated under the equality act. They should be prosecuted.
I never saw this til now. I'm horrified. I have a daughter who just turned 20 in August. She is still very much a small child because she has severe autism. How could any cops let this happen? U can tell 100% that this girl like my daughter has obvious serious issues communicating. My daughter does talk but unless you have been around a lot she is very difficult to understand. It breaks my heart that,from what I see here,I should be glad that new people can't understand her. At least that keeps her safe from offending someone without having any clue why someone would be upset with her. This is just shocking and terrifying. 😢
Fun fact in the UK it is illegal to use pepper spray because it can do permeant damage to the eyes
So people who tell me/us women to carry some around for self defence is actually telling us to break the law XD
How is one supposed to protect ourselves here? Everything seems illegal.
A someone who has as autism and has a sister whose also autistic, this pisses me off. I don't like being touched unless _I_ engage it or a family member like my mom for example. 😢
Many people must have said it already, but the worst part is that her whole team of officer going along with this BS. Nobody at any point had the epiphany to say "wait a moment, what the hell are we doing here, this is wrong". No, so everyone here is exactly as guilty as her, though she was the brat who threw the tantrum to begin with. The 2nd video is just a manual of how to not deescalate the situation lol.
i get called certain slurs directed at lesbians often even though i am bi and not a woman, and my response is usually "hey, f--k you" not "i'm going to put you in a situation to be assaulted by pigs." this lady is being very very petulant for whatever reason, and it's completely unacceptable that she is excused for doing that in a position of authority TO A CHILD.
my son is 2 and has cerebral palsy and situations like this make me more pissed off and antagonistic towards cops than i already am. when my son's an adult and god forbid needs police assistance, are they going to hurt him because he was born with a disability? i've had run ins because i "wasn't acting right" and i'm able bodied, what would they do to him?
To take offence to the word lesbian is homophobic....this cop is disgusting and in my opinion seems corrupt and and should not be looking after the community. She seems like she loves a good power trip and doesnt care who is in her way.....she does look like a lesiban and saying that isnt homophobic its just what she looks like to me. THANKS FOR COVERING THIS❤
Lol, I had a young face, too. Throughout my 20's, I was called a lesbian by friends and strangers. Especially when I got haircuts my friends would say I look like a lesbian. I remember a mentally handicap guy at a bus stop started talking to me and then paused mid conversation and asked if I was a woman. Funny enough, growing long hair, I look a lot less like a woman. The beard might have something to do with it as well. Now I might just look like a M to F trans.
On a side note, when she's standing there with her arms folded, looking down disapprovingly. I think she was more mad that she was told by other officers to sit out the actual detainment to de-escalate the situation. They're cleaning up her mess. You can tell they were trying to de-escalate when one officer went in to talk to the girl. He was trying to negotiate and talk to her calmly. By default they just have to go through with the arrest because that hypersensitive flatfoot called for the arrest. It's not like they can just refuse it once they realised the situation. I can see them being not very impressed with what she essentially made her colleagues do while she sat around being useless. They know she caused the heat to come down on their station. I don't imagine she'll last much longer as a cop. I doubt she will have much support from other officers. She's quite liable.
When my friends and I were in school we'd joke about UK laws around age. At sixteen we're legally adults, we can join the military, consent to sex, consume alcohol ect. But we have to be eighteen to buy something like Call of Duty and send explicit images.
16 isn't a legal adult in the UK at all. 16 Is just the age of consent, You can't buy alcohol or join the military until 18 & You can actually drink alcohol at home from 5, not 16.
that cop is awful
People don't realize how intense ableism against autistic people is. It gets us hurt and even killed. I'm so glad that there was enough outrage for her to be let go, that enough people cared about this innocent autistic girl when so many people don't.
Based on the footage avalible publically, it seems to me this officer doesnt have any situational awareness skills and typically interprets events on the basis her emotional recations and then becomes entrenched in whatever narrative matches that emotional state. If you slow down the footage, her facial expression most often is of anger or contempt or a combination of both. That is not calm and in control policing.
No matter the country, cops are cops.
ACAB
thanks for covering this! I appreciate it as an autistic myself. The police field has far to go in terms of understanding us autistics, though theres also much yet to be learned by everyone who isnt diagnosed as autistic also. Especially in terms of more recent knowledge and facts, and past myths regarding autism.
Just a few notes as an autistic person:
Autistic spectrum isn't a spectrum of low-high autism. As autism is us literally having a different brain, an autistic brain. The spectrum is of traits. There's a massive spectrum of traits, and different sensory things that we can have a cluster of. So there's no slightly or severely autistic, we are autistic or we are not. And that language can cause people to believe that those who are high masking, e.g. someone who might appear "less autistic" to someone not clued up on autism, are less deserving accommodations as we are less autistic. Which is not the case.
There are different traits that we can get many of, and thus we all experience our autism in a vastly different way to other autistics, we are all unique. But as i touched upon before, there is low masking and high masking. Some of us learn how to hide our struggles to those around us. Usually due to people conditioning us that it is bad and that we will be punished for showing our autistic selves and traits. This can lead us to appear more neurotypical, at the expense of us often breaking fully and melting down when alone alas. Which can cause more issues. Since we are splitting our brain computing power into lots of tasks that are difficult for us, whilst also doing what everyone else would have to do, which means we are essentially putting our brains on overdrive and overloading them.
Due to some of us being high masking, due to learning we have to, as well as us all having varying traits and issues from our brain being autistic, people often have the interpretation that we are either slightly autistic or severely autistic. Some of us have seemingly higher support needs, and others seemingly lower, though to what extent no one can truly know due to masking often being something that can impact how we appear to be handling things. I can look like I'm doing fine, but internally I'm suppressing everything visually to others, with all my might until I manage to get to somewhere I'll be alone (if i can), at which point i have a very bad meltdown.
But generally long story short, there's no "less autistic", "more autistic" kind of thing, it's just different ways in which we experience our autism and how it displays.
I'm high masking, but it doesn't take away my sensory issues. I would still meltdown with loud noise, being restrained or touched by anyone I don't give permission to, and being confined to a small space. I still need to use noise cancelling headphones most of the time. I struggle socialising with others without it revolving around special interests. Yet even still, someone like yourself might consider me to be only "slightly autistic", due to me masking, which is a survival tool some of us develop for our survival growing up.
-- And for the record, it was only since being diagnosed a few years ago that I understood and learned about all of this, from other autistics myself, as well as the post diagnostic group sessions provided by the NHS. And since the Health services yet have much to do in outwardly to the general public, in terms of eradicating myths and correcting language used in the past that is not accurate with to todays knowledge; I can't blame others for not knowing. Though what is within my ability is to comment to add further info that is more updated and comes from the MH autistic diagnosis services themselves. --
Thankyou for reading my ted talk about language surrounding describing us neurospicy autistic pals. Thanks for reading lol
Thank you so much for explaining this! I'm also autistic, and I have a hard time explaining this to people. I have a hard time coming up with the right words, as it's a lot of information.
My doctor told me im on the autistic spectrum and I don't know what that means. I have adhd, sensory issues and problems with... other people. I have what I call bursts of adrenaline, which is either a good one or a bad one. They are almost like tics. I dont even know the words for the feelings inside, I just try relate them to what others have explained.
Theres a lot of things in this world I dont understand, my brain is one of them. And my knees. I get this ugly feeling in my legs where I need to get up and do stuff or it gives me negative feelings. 😂😂
And that has fuck all to do with the fact that this girl said something offensive that crossed the line into hate speech.
Cool so let’s just let people off with criminal offences because they have autism, or say they do.
@@Osiris9216 your comment history is interesting but I'm not at all surprised.
Good grief! I hadn't heard about this. I live in the UK & I'm happy to say that, in my experience at least, this woman isn't a typical example of the police here, thank god! Thanks for covering this.
looking at a lot of body cam footage, you would think they'd be used to so much worse like they're fr getting cussed out on the daily by people who are getting arrested for shit like murder but god forbid a regular citizen calls them a lesbian
If she didn't want hate speech, she has it now. What a true winner. 😒
meanwhile grooming gangs are left alone... stabbings and robberies are not dealt with
That poor young girl. I hat that this has happened to her. I hope she is able to get back to a stable happy healthy place after this bullsnit incident. If that police officer is willing to do that to a minor child and onlookers. I fear to see what she would do in a position where it is a lot more high stress. Someone higher up needs to hold this person accountable for her childish behaviour and temper tantrums.
There should be a distinction on the hate speech thing. For example if I call her a b!tch it won't be because she's a lesbian, it will be because she's acting like one. And that would be totally different from me saying "B!tch please" to a friend. In both instances I won't expect to be charged for hate speech, what would be hate speech is if I just saw her one day and unprovoked started calling her names, sending her hate mail etc.
I hadn't heard of the first incident until now. Absolutely horrifying.
The irony is that if the officer is a lesbian and was offended by being called one she's indirectly saying that to be just referred to as a lesbian is homophobic or that the word lesbian is somehow a slur. On the other hand if she isn't and got offended by being called one then she would be the one that's homophobic in this scenario lol.. either way it's a lose lose for the officer but imagine calling someone homophobic in the midst of you doing something inadvertently homophobic loll
On the topic of better training for officers I completely agree. In 2015 I was all aboard the defund the police train but I've come to realize that that's probably the worst thing we could do as far as creating a better and healthier relationship between civilians and officers. I know in Toronto they started offering different services for officers yoga classes therapy sensitivity training how to deal with different mental illnesses and addictions. The last thing you want is to encounter an angry officer that is not well equipped mentally to handle various situations and on top of it be stressed out and always in a bad mood because they can't make ends meet. I don't think they should get bonuses for no reason but there could be some money set aside to train them better and help them decompress after a shift not take that home with them and then spilling into the next day.
This is so scary...the fact that they can use whatever words said as "hate speech" even though its entirely subjective, to silence you, is extremely concerning and as a society, we should tread carefully. Mark my words, they will use this law as a way to silence people over time.
Meanwhile Mizzy’s given a slap on the wrist.
Nonces too...
Who's she when she's at home?
@@Roadent1241 That is a very good question.
@@AtticusTheDeathMetaller multiple other people have mentioned her and I can't exactly Google 'Mizzy' by itself.
@@Roadent1241 You mean him. That’s that one prankster Repzion made a video on him.
My daughter has autism and when I heard this girl crying in the cupboard it broke my heart 🥺
Once in high school one of the Special Ed kids who was profoundly disabled, likely autistic, walked towards me with his hand up, it was a gesture kids made back then when they wanted to shake your hand, and I interpreted it that way.
I put my hand out too and he grabbed it, then he just FROZE and clamped down on it, staring me in the eyes super-intensely. It was like he was on another planet until the moment we touched and then, got drawn into some other dimension the moment we touched, it was so odd.
A helper who was behind monitoring others ran up and wrenched his hand off of mine, it was an odd and interesting experience, lol.
On the subject of sensory overload... I have an overactive occipital lobe, it causes this visual static syndrome thing which, makes you see snow like the HBO logo overlayed on everything, see trails with movement, after images, and coming in from outside, or outside in a clear day if I look at the sky, i see the same kind of auras that people with migraines see
But something I've noticed too is certain visual patterns... Especially certain width, uniform dark and light stripes like, light on venetian blinds, or steel pole fences approached from a certain angle, give me the strangest feeling in my head. Almost like a tickle or an itch, but it is very uncomfortable, I try to not look to avoid it. But I wonder if that isn't similar to some of those hypersensitivities people have from other mechanisms.
What a sad world we live in.
It's people like her that make my CJ - Cultural Awareness Class part of my core curriculum. It is literally "It's wrong to be mean to people because they are different," is all that class really teaches. I'm relearning what the Beirstein Bears taught me because officers like her.
I mean this unironically, the maxtac/overly agressive exo suit wearing ambulance from cyberpunk are actually more reasonable and less tyrannical than this woman.
I was thinking she was a maxtac wannabe NCPD officer (2077 for life choom)
How can you be so insecure that a teenager’s comment makes you have them arrested? Grow a spine. I hope for nothing but the worst for this woman
Imagine getting pissed for looking like a lesbian while having the most lesbian haircut
Its alright, im sure the police investigated themselves and found they did nothing wrong.
I'm in uk essex and actively have meets on how police treat disabled people and they have told me there's no such thing as a hate crime. Only crimes that may have a gate element to them
There is a way to properly do the job in most cases while mainting utmost respect and empathy by using common sense and taking the time to deescalate the situation and act accordingly on a case by case basis. The major lack of information gathering and formulating the proper plan for the situation has become a thing of the past..
The police situation over here is only going to get worse. I don’t know all of the details but due to many factors the older/ experienced police officers are all leaving (they’ve had enough) and we’re left with younger less experienced coppers.
Kinda comes across as the cop is being homophobic for just being called lesbian. Also are the cops this badly taught about mental health? Autistic people need more care and not more trauma. Thank you for bringing this up for people to be aware of. Gosh this is so sad...
Hearing about this again just upsets me so much. As an autistic person myself i need so bad for this to have a somewhat happy ending because the way this country treats autistic people is just going to get worse. I already mask my autism as much as possible in the hope that nothing like this could ever happen to me. I am legitimately scared shitless and crushed into depression this world has done nothing but hurt me and many other people just like me
Calling someone a 4.25.11.5 or 6.1.7.7.15.20, for starters is a HELL of a homophobic slur. Saying "Mummy, that cop looks like she's a lesbian like Nana!" is more an observation than a slur.
The UK never ceases to amaze me.
Yah, that shouldnt be a cop. That person should have 0 authority over others at this stage of her life.
Also it doesn't help that Yorkshire police are amongst the most hated - and allegedly - the most corrupt. This woman is detestable, and the sooner she's fired the better.
That's if she doesn't end up in a box for being that .... Hostile (risks of an officer and all ) I am also betting she ends up in prison for pissing off the wrong person
She's not just the most hated cop, she's also the worst cop I've seen. Pepper spraying civilians is meant to be a defense, not an attack.
I have Aspergers. I'm autistic but I'm borderline. I seem Normal but without even my knowing I'll get Sensory overload and have random Panic attacks.
The result of one of them got me arrested. Now I do not remember the Attack. All I know is I began to react violently. Which is agents my otherwise normal nature.
In this case I came around just as the police came to arrest me. I didn't know what I had done. However, I had the awareness to know whatever it was, the cops were called on me.
I politely told them. "Here are my wrist. Cuff me... put me in the back of your car. I will not reset you. I am harmless, I am unarmed."
I did my best to pretend to be a wet noodle. No matter how much it hurt or how scared I was.
It Was HARD, but everything turned out fine.
I knew to do all of this because I was fortunate enough to have grown up around somebody who was a cop and knew of my mental condition,
Then again.... I don't live in England.
I'm autistic and I'd handle this better than the cop did. If she was bothered by the (from the sounds of it) a compliment, she should've calmed down and talked to the teen in a calm tone saying:
"I'm sure you mean what you said in good faith but, I don't like being compared to someone you know."
NOT PUTTING AN ALREADY STRESSED PERSON IN A WORSE SITUATION! Much less that being the immediate response. I'd be flattered if I reminded someone of a loved one personally.
The officer should be serving time cause this reflects poorly on the system as a whole and the system needs to face some reform to handle these situations better.
Exactly! It's that easy!!
Irresponsible use of power! Unbelievable!
Abuse of power, actually. Is this a uk cop or a murikkkan one? Jklol, i know it's a uk cop.
My son is autistic and I’m on the spectrum as well. My son used to have huge meltdowns similar to this when he’d get overwhelmed and those situations were very mishandled at his old school to the point where I had to storm in and just take him out of that school permanently. Ughh it just makes my stomach flip upside down watching the clips of this girl getting manhandled and traumatized like this. I honestly can’t even finish watching it. Those cops should have left her alone and they don’t need to be stepping in unless the primary caregiver asks for their assistance. They’re only doing harm and making things escalate with their unnecessary involvement. 🤦🏻♀️😮💨
I have autism and CFS (chronic fatique). Not as severe autism like that poor girl. But believe you me when we get overwhelmed and tired in situations where we feel like we can't escape a situation or someone we react. This poor girl seemed scared, I usually get really aggressive and starts shouting and my breath become somewhat of a panic attack. And if people don't back off I can black out and have no control over what I am doing. Since we are wired differently aggression comes out when you are scared and feel trapped. The same as anger is a sign of actually being sad and crying comes out when you are angry. We just work different then others. And if I can't be in a room with people because I am mentally overwhelmed by all the noise I have to go home and just be alone. Sometimes we also get caught in a vaccum where we don't want to be alone but we are also so mentally tired of being social with friends and family that both sides of that vaccum is just hard to get out of.
Once these cops are told about the autism problem they should walk away
I'm in the UK but obviously under a rock as I heard nothing about this til now. WTF, this actually sickens me! And then has to gaul to pepper spray like a MANIAC in that crowd! How the hell is she not in trouble?!
As a mom of an autistic child this scares the absolute shit out of me… if the cops did this to my kid then I’ll slap them with a lawsuit so fast. This is just f-ing insane.
Highly ironic that her reaction is itself, homophobic. "What did you call me? I'm no lesbian...grrr".
No, she’s not the MOST hated. We have much worse than this.
Karen cop lol😂
She is an officer with Yorkshire Police.
Yorkshire Police were very lucky with the original incident distracting from a far more serious story at the same time.
A Royal Marine Commando won a defamation case against the force and is calling for a public inquiry..... But the story was lost in the noise of the "Lesbian Nana" story.
so she got off Scott free after putting a girl through immense stress and trauma.
that's disgusting, and all too common, and it being common is also disgusting. she should be stripped of her badge immediately.
If someone gets offended that someone says they look homosexual, doesn’t that make THEM the homophobe? Being LGBTQIA+ isn’t a negative trait lady.
Thank u so much for this video!!!
yeah the girl was autistic and saying something like 'you look my lesbian nan' to the police officer is hardly an insult and not a slur. And I heard (although cannot confirm) that her grandmother 'was' actually a lesbian and having a relationship with a woman. So I dunno.
I live in Leeds, and I'm neurodivergent and it really is a friendly warm city and I love living here. Unfortunately there is a problem with police sometimes who do go on power trips and they are often completely unable to deal with mental health, neurodivergent and lawful protests. By the way, we do have hate speech laws, but it has to incite hatred or invite violence. Someone who keeps saying slurs may be slapped with a public order charge but not hate speech.
The way she acted, I think this cop is use to comments like that and there's probably already been rumors and she used it as the opportunity to "really show" everyone once and for all that she IS NOT gay 🤦♀️🤷♀️
Thanks for covering this, mate.
Looking at these two videos back to back, this officer needs to be dismissed, along with a high recommendation to get anger management courses, this person is not fit to patrol the streets.
20 bucks she's either a higher up's daughter or she's sleeping with someone. Not even a suspension? I smell nepotism somewhere.
Don't you love asserting your authority over a disabled child :) makes ya feel real powerful
Shame on any of her colleagues that haven't been constantly reporting her to internal investigations & lobbying for her to be fired. I can only assume that's why she still has a job, that nobody likes her but nobody wanted to break that blue wall either & was just hoping she'd be stuck on a desk job forever. Absolutely sickening
The police officer took offence to looking similar to a lesbian. The homophobia is actually from the cop, she clearly finds it an offence to be referred to as a lesbian, what's offensive about that?
Ew ew ew and ew. That was a gross overuse of power from start to finish.
The attitude of this officer seems to be prevailing of the whole of policing in the UK: shut people up and move them along no matter what.
Have you met us? We don't shut up when injustice is happening XD
@@Roadent1241 Well, thank goodness there are stalwart souls such as yourself that are prepared to fight back. I have unfortunately seen an awful lot of footage of Brits either complying or being forced to comply with ridiculous and draconian hate speech laws. It will be wonderful to see you all be more civilly disobedient.
"Lesbian Nanna" wasn't ment to be an insult but since her actions shes cemented that as her nickname for life. Now ment as an insult.
Poor kid! She must be going through a unbearable amount of anxiety during this “example of police bravery and heroism “ ! Did anyone find out if she is a lesbian?
I have autism and i work 1:1 with an autistic 12 year old and truly he just doesn't have a verbal filter and sometimes things he doesn't mean as rude comes off that way. I worry about something like this happening to him
Seems like a factual remark to me. I can also think of several DESERVED remarks.
As the parent to an autistic child I had to contain my rage with this one. Those screams hurt my heart 😭
Im from the netherlands and the police is actially trained how to deal with people that would react differently, just like autism and dementia.
I think getting upset over a girl saying you look like a lesbian in what was clearly not an insult type of way is actually more homophobic. What’s wrong with looking like a lesbian? Also as a lesbian she does. I’m sure others have said she does too. The moment I cut my long hair those were immediately the comments I got. Also most of the time when autistic people make comments like that they aren’t inherently trying to be insulting just like little kids (not that they are the same even if they cognitively are on the same level) they’re just very honest sometimes. It’s not really meant to be hurtful.
Did they even have a warrant? I doubt it. They should have never gone in that house seeing as no one was in any danger. The trust in the police force here in the UK in threw the floor