tldw; - tested deli scarabs of paranoia - figured the best method was to get the most rewards in the shortest time rather than going for like 10+ bars per map - strand is bis for deli - used 4x Paranoia 1 Mania - Tree is min maxed for 8 rewards as you hit the boss (9/10 time this worked for me) - 8 mod maps only - invested 7div - returned 47 (excluding filler and lucky drops) in 3 hours - scarab prolly go up, deli orb prolly go down, still prolly ok ggs
After testing a bit with different configurations, it seems to me that the real prerequisite to getting 8 rewards before boss is +40% pack size on the map (which means 8 mods) Beyond kinda does nothing, you can lean more into shrines with domination craft, get more monsters and most importantly more power. Getting good set of shrine buffs (like repeating + speed + chaos pops) helps a lot
Great vid, spot on regards the profitability but I wouldn't run beyond. Instead you can just run ritual chance without running the rituals. That way you get a lot of extra monsters and can hit the 8 rewards milestone as well without all of the hassle of running beyond (e.g. waiting for them to appear lol)
Been playing it and seems like a good strat. I didnt do precise calculations but theres net profit even after using 4 instances of the 5c paranoias. Also the loot explosion after finishing the deli is very satisfying. So long as you dont die often and lose the deli before boss this seems very easy to do.
Me playing archmage, like 50div invested? Once i got to 7th layer i straight frostblink to boss, dps not high enough for 8th layer and monster is like hasted all the time, had to frostblink every second to not die.
This is best for a specialized build like flicker strike, you really need to be doing one minute maps to really make this strat pop. Before soulthirst got nerfed this would be a perfect build for this.
This is similar to what I've been doing when I'm not carrying people through acts & levels... hoping the scarabs don't become more expensive because of this video loll
Was good last league already even when limited to two scarabs of mania. I think the low value of cluster jewels is not because of that strategy but because of the titanic scarab. I dropped multiple 3 passive mana res eff 84+ from them which I didnt in like 200-300 maps with the delirium strat last league.
I used to hate running Deli. Was running Expediton and Harvest before, slotted this on one of my Atlas and never looked back since. Clearing still abit clunky as my character isn't exactly a full mapper build but working on a map blaster character to really run this full steam.
Yeah I tested that before releasing the initial video and it didn’t seem to work for me but apparently it did for tuna, 100% worth specking ritual chance if it works
Your scarab prices seem off. Paranoia has been more like 5c in bulk for a few days now. I’ve been doing 2/3 with red altars in city square (just alch+go). Pop a red altar pack, boss rush, then round out 7 rewards and get your mining node. Much faster, even for my slow character, and I find I’m getting a lot more gold/hr this way to keep the town running. Boss rush is always good - invitations and synth/conq map drops nearly pay for the strat themselves and deli drops are icing on the cake at that point.
@@Milkybk_ I think deli maps have always been Trop island(low chance of the mirror moving sideways and soft bricking the map)>malformation(cancer to run)>strand(consistent nice layout but not quite as good as other 2).
@@Milkybk_ i can hit 9-10 on strand with breach howevr it takes around twice as long so i doubt its worth. 1 of my runs i got a whole simulacrum worth of splinters
did you also try one scarab of neuroses for the deli boss spawn, they can spawn multiple ones which add a lot of splinters. or arent you really interested in the splinters?
I had this silly idea of going in and getting deli reward up to 5 in the first 25 seconds and leaving map. I wonder how profitable that would be doing like 1.8maps per min... I guess i'll test it myself. (blah blah blah something about currency per hour)
I can't stop drooling over your weapon! How do you even craft something like that? I'm thinking about fractured flat cold or fire dmg base, than spam essence of wrath until I get 2 other decent flat ele dmg rolls and I'm stuck. How to force proper suffixes I have no idea?
@@Milkybk_sorry can answer my question one last time? why does my delirium timer start going down from 5 right after I touch the mirror at the start bricking my run? what did I do wrong? I try to kill more mobs but timer won’t stop going down
I'm playing an ephemeral edge trickster with a mageblood and found this to be very difficult. Not because I would die but because I just couldn't kill anything fast enough. I reckon you really do need the headhunter. I unspecced Decent into Madness and it still got too hard towards the end. I had to also stop using the Mania scarab. I instead used a domination scarab for a couple more shrines in it's place. I can get 7 reward layers with 8 on the boss so one less reward rollover. But I also had to take The Singular Eternity along with the two Fog Dissipation Delay small nodes. And I was seconds on running out of fog while killing the boss usually. It was still profitable. I still often got like 7-14 deli orbs along with a ton of random stuff. One of my regular farms is harvest so I am sitting on the juice to convert the orbs to one of the top 3 sellers so that helped my profit a lot considering I didn't need to buy the juice per se. Worth noting this is terrible for gold. And in my case really bad for the league mechanic all together. As activating an ore node does not stop or slow the fog down. You either need to backtrack the map for the ore node and gold or not get the extra reward rollover from the boss. This hard choice made me only be able to do this for 10 maps before deciding it was not for me. tldr. You need a headhunter setup to be able to perform anywhere close to as advertised in the video.
I have no problem running this with EE trickster w/ Mageblood. Get 9 rewards every time. I don't use Descent into Madness though since it doesn't seem to provide any benefit (I guess more splinters? but those aren't worth much) and makes the map take longer.
I think it's fair to include "lucky drops" at half their value in the profits breakdown. Lucky drops will always happen in PoE and I think completely disregarding them is a mistake, but to keep things fair cutting the value in half should provide more realistic expectations
@@swiftkd9144 you mean the unique jewel? i never saw any for my 200+ maps. Is it because i ignore the delirium boss? I will kill it if it is at the start of the map, but if im in 6th layer, i just ignore them.
@@discrep not true at all, or not entirely true, strat may be still profitable but with awakening scarab being 150c+ its almost better to run without it
@@ProMikus I think it's still worth it even at current market prices for awakening and juice. In T17s with a couple of blue quant altars, you can average 3-5d worth of juice per map, which easily pays for the scarab. Even in 8mod jungle valleys you can avg 2-3d if your build can handle selecting every quant altar.
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tldw;
- tested deli scarabs of paranoia
- figured the best method was to get the most rewards in the shortest time rather than going for like 10+ bars per map
- strand is bis for deli
- used 4x Paranoia 1 Mania
- Tree is min maxed for 8 rewards as you hit the boss (9/10 time this worked for me)
- 8 mod maps only
- invested 7div
- returned 47 (excluding filler and lucky drops) in 3 hours
- scarab prolly go up, deli orb prolly go down, still prolly ok
ggs
you only have 84% chance for deli in maps... and not use the map craft. soooo what am i missing
@@codnono base chance + blocks brings it to 100%
@@Milkybk_ base chance is 84% and block is 10%.
@@addminustraitor8514 Tree chance 84 base chance 8 blocks 10
please
Thanks Josh or Milky
After testing a bit with different configurations, it seems to me that the real prerequisite to getting 8 rewards before boss is +40% pack size on the map (which means 8 mods)
Beyond kinda does nothing, you can lean more into shrines with domination craft, get more monsters and most importantly more power. Getting good set of shrine buffs (like repeating + speed + chaos pops) helps a lot
Great vid, spot on regards the profitability but I wouldn't run beyond. Instead you can just run ritual chance without running the rituals. That way you get a lot of extra monsters and can hit the 8 rewards milestone as well without all of the hassle of running beyond (e.g. waiting for them to appear lol)
Been playing it and seems like a good strat. I didnt do precise calculations but theres net profit even after using 4 instances of the 5c paranoias. Also the loot explosion after finishing the deli is very satisfying. So long as you dont die often and lose the deli before boss this seems very easy to do.
I really underestimated how hard this strat is without HH XD. And laggy too. But great video :)
Me playing archmage, like 50div invested? Once i got to 7th layer i straight frostblink to boss, dps not high enough for 8th layer and monster is like hasted all the time, had to frostblink every second to not die.
you can just go for deli rewards with a scoured map and still get about the same loot
thats normal, hes running a super meta build on HH.
This is best for a specialized build like flicker strike, you really need to be doing one minute maps to really make this strat pop. Before soulthirst got nerfed this would be a perfect build for this.
Yeah crazy how good it gets with pace
Checked ninja to make sure the scarab prices didn't spike but ofc when I go to actually buy them they have spiked 🙃
This is similar to what I've been doing when I'm not carrying people through acts & levels... hoping the scarabs don't become more expensive because of this video loll
Was good last league already even when limited to two scarabs of mania. I think the low value of cluster jewels is not because of that strategy but because of the titanic scarab. I dropped multiple 3 passive mana res eff 84+ from them which I didnt in like 200-300 maps with the delirium strat last league.
I used to hate running Deli. Was running Expediton and Harvest before, slotted this on one of my Atlas and never looked back since. Clearing still abit clunky as my character isn't exactly a full mapper build but working on a map blaster character to really run this full steam.
Glad you're enjoying it mate
nice one! enjoying checking these out! Would love to see a uniques strategy that could be utilised on t16's or SSF if its on your list at all.
hello Josh (or MIlky)
i suggest the exile strat you did, but with ritual to revive them over and over, its extremely profitable, and fun aswell.
Yeah I tested that before releasing the initial video and it didn’t seem to work for me but apparently it did for tuna, 100% worth specking ritual chance if it works
thanks milky ill try this one i love deli
Wow! Your POE hideout contain mayan glyps.
Your scarab prices seem off. Paranoia has been more like 5c in bulk for a few days now. I’ve been doing 2/3 with red altars in city square (just alch+go). Pop a red altar pack, boss rush, then round out 7 rewards and get your mining node. Much faster, even for my slow character, and I find I’m getting a lot more gold/hr this way to keep the town running. Boss rush is always good - invitations and synth/conq map drops nearly pay for the strat themselves and deli drops are icing on the cake at that point.
ive bought 200 paranoia for 3,5c in bulk even after this video
@@djdjuro89 ah yep, you're right. I think I did some bad div conversion math, good call though.
Ty how does the loot explosion on the end scale? also scaling with map quantity?
I tried it on tropical island and I was at 9-10 rewards before that ape boss!!
With just 1 Mania scarab?
@@Milkybk_ I think deli maps have always been Trop island(low chance of the mirror moving sideways and soft bricking the map)>malformation(cancer to run)>strand(consistent nice layout but not quite as good as other 2).
@@Dem0n123-w4m will test with tropical to see if a consistent 9 is possible
@@Milkybk_ i can hit 9-10 on strand with breach howevr it takes around twice as long so i doubt its worth. 1 of my runs i got a whole simulacrum worth of splinters
@@Milkybk_ yes, I saw Ruetoo doing some deli fun so I ran similar tree as yours with same scarabs but just on tropical island!
Did red altars btw!
did you also try one scarab of neuroses for the deli boss spawn, they can spawn multiple ones which add a lot of splinters. or arent you really interested in the splinters?
Nah the sims make up to little to change to that
I made over 700 divines with your videos bro keep them coming
I have a question. Do you know if it's worth it to try to reroll the deli orbs into skittering and diviners deli orbs?
At current prices I don’t think so
@@Milkybk_ thanks for awnsering!
I had this silly idea of going in and getting deli reward up to 5 in the first 25 seconds and leaving map. I wonder how profitable that would be doing like 1.8maps per min... I guess i'll test it myself. (blah blah blah something about currency per hour)
yeah i failed a map yesterday where this happened to me, it actually seemed like it could go hard
What do you think about running deli maps 80% with the orbs we obtain with this strat? Some changes in atlas tree to run 80% deli maps? Ty sir!
If you are using orbs you can eliminate every "mirror" node on atlas, add like breach and aim for 11+ rewards
What build is this? Is there a POB?
doing it on jungle valley but i m most of the time stuck at 8 stacks... will it really work better on strand ?
i dropped house of mirrors during this from stacked deck i know it doesnt count but still lol
I can't stop drooling over your weapon! How do you even craft something like that?
I'm thinking about fractured flat cold or fire dmg base, than spam essence of wrath until I get 2 other decent flat ele dmg rolls and I'm stuck. How to force proper suffixes I have no idea?
Recombination for the prefixes, reforge speed until attack speed and then prefixes cannot be changed unveil for the dd or crit
I just dropped an insane cat using the more unique deli bosses notable
@@SuperArc13 hell yeah man, gz
Can use red altars ? Or is blue just way better ? And easier to get to lvl 9? I just like the shit ton of chaos orbs u get from red
Reds fine yeah
@@Milkybk_ I need help why doesnt my reward level up when i kill the boss? It just stays at the same level ?
@@dvdzvc you dont have the atlas tree node sselected
@@Milkybk_ Omg tysm im so dumb. Subbed. Thx
@@Milkybk_sorry can answer my question one last time? why does my delirium timer start going down from 5 right after I touch the mirror at the start bricking my run? what did I do wrong? I try to kill more mobs but timer won’t stop going down
I'm playing an ephemeral edge trickster with a mageblood and found this to be very difficult. Not because I would die but because I just couldn't kill anything fast enough. I reckon you really do need the headhunter. I unspecced Decent into Madness and it still got too hard towards the end. I had to also stop using the Mania scarab. I instead used a domination scarab for a couple more shrines in it's place. I can get 7 reward layers with 8 on the boss so one less reward rollover. But I also had to take The Singular Eternity along with the two Fog Dissipation Delay small nodes. And I was seconds on running out of fog while killing the boss usually. It was still profitable. I still often got like 7-14 deli orbs along with a ton of random stuff. One of my regular farms is harvest so I am sitting on the juice to convert the orbs to one of the top 3 sellers so that helped my profit a lot considering I didn't need to buy the juice per se. Worth noting this is terrible for gold. And in my case really bad for the league mechanic all together. As activating an ore node does not stop or slow the fog down. You either need to backtrack the map for the ore node and gold or not get the extra reward rollover from the boss. This hard choice made me only be able to do this for 10 maps before deciding it was not for me.
tldr. You need a headhunter setup to be able to perform anywhere close to as advertised in the video.
I have no problem running this with EE trickster w/ Mageblood. Get 9 rewards every time. I don't use Descent into Madness though since it doesn't seem to provide any benefit (I guess more splinters? but those aren't worth much) and makes the map take longer.
@@TheEternalVortex42 u have specific atlas? or u just dont use Descent into Madness?
Doesn't the atlas have less than 100% chance for a mirror? like a 94%
No, natural chance + blocks puts it above 100
@@Milkybk_I'm not sure I get your point, you have 84% as per your atlas. How do you actually reach 100% ?
@@SindarAnarion Base chance = 8% blocks = 10% tree chance = 84% you can add them together
@@Rafael-km9mx I regret to inform you, you’ve fucked up somewhere
Rip this Strat.
Free isabelle 🤡
who is isabelle
I think it's fair to include "lucky drops" at half their value in the profits breakdown. Lucky drops will always happen in PoE and I think completely disregarding them is a mistake, but to keep things fair cutting the value in half should provide more realistic expectations
Yeah always a tricky one to deal with, I can include them separately or something
If I had a nickle every time a streamer said: "You don't need a mageblood/headhunter, but.... I have one in my demo video"
@@MidsummerNightScream i have to say it cause morons get mind controlled when they see it on my character
NOOO MY STRAT IS EXPOSED NOOOO
o7
Ruetoo did this 4 days ago?
@@Dofflins Idk, cause I do my own thing for farming strategy, some people did it already? I personally use 3 paranoia and add in 1 Niko
everyone kinda knew this one why you think jewels that cost 10+ divines usually are going for 1-2 divines
@@swiftkd9144 you mean the unique jewel? i never saw any for my 200+ maps. Is it because i ignore the delirium boss? I will kill it if it is at the start of the map, but if im in 6th layer, i just ignore them.
am i first
first to flip the scarabs 🤪
@@Milkybk_ xddBusiness
@@Milkybk_ oh yeah bulk buying them at the moment
@@eromisimo good lad
Yeah, stupid console, 1 paranoia is 10 c man, everything on console is minimum 3 times more
i assume that means you can sell the rewards for more too?
Delierium is my thing. Avoid videos like this, I don't want the Scarabs to rise...
nice, another strat with 300 different currencies to sell!
Go do harvest pal if you don’t like selling stuff
@@Milkybk_ lol harvest scarabs are now insane prices
@@indoom666 You understand scarab prices move with the price of their output? They're still profitable at market price or nobody would be buying them.
@@discrep not true at all, or not entirely true, strat may be still profitable but with awakening scarab being 150c+ its almost better to run without it
@@ProMikus I think it's still worth it even at current market prices for awakening and juice. In T17s with a couple of blue quant altars, you can average 3-5d worth of juice per map, which easily pays for the scarab. Even in 8mod jungle valleys you can avg 2-3d if your build can handle selecting every quant altar.