Lebron Fan ADMITS THE TRUTH After Reacting To The HISTORIC MICHAEL JORDAN Mixtape
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Lebron Fan ADMITS THE TRUTH After Reacting To The HISTORIC MICHAEL JORDAN Mixtape
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MJ did it on BOTH ends of the court. He got a DPOTY, while also getting a scoring title, led the league in steals 3x, was the fastest to 100 steals & 100 blocks by a guard, and had 9 all defensive first team selections.
Because of rules changes & play style changes throughout the years, you pretty much have to break down the GOATS into their respective eras.
Like LBJ is the goat of this era, MJ was the goat of his era, Kareem was the goat of his era, etc…
I agree completely
@@Femitoodrippy I'm a fan of both MJ and Lebron. I've had the privilege of seeing both live - Lebron mulitple times.
Basketball is simple. Score the basket. Stop your other opponents from scoring. Jordan played 13 seasons with the Bulls (13 minus second season with broken foot and more than half the season he was playing baseball)
11.5 seasons. 10 scoring titles, 9 All Defensive First Teams meaning he was the best defender at his position. This included leading the league in steals 3x - stopping other teams possessions.
Xs and Os - Jordan could be ball dominant and play off ball in a system like the triangle. lebron is a tremendous talent but he can’t play in a system. He dribbled the ball for 15 seconds for a pick and roll for a weak defender then drives for a layup or a pass to a shooter. With Lebron he never plays well with a point guard cause he needs the ball. He can’t play with true bigs cause he needs the paint open. Bigs become catch and shoot guys.
And as a fan, I cannot explain Lebron disappearing against Boston in 2010 and Dallas in 2011. In his second year, gm2 against Boston MJ wanted to be on the line to hit clutch free throws to send it into overtime with a chance to win. Also the final 3-peat - he played all 82 games all three of those years. His last year with the Wizards - he played all 82 games. He never cheated anyone who paid to see him.
That’s why between the two I’d say Jordan.
@@mancycle1 That's the point, he did all of his accomplishments in a way shorter time and still outscorce Lebron on most of them, MVPs, Finals-MVPs, Scoring titles, all defensive team nominations, ....... he is the greatest ever.
@@ingobordewick6480 retired in his prime twice..5 years
@@ingobordewick6480 I’m agreeing with you goofball
* MJ has more championships
* MJ has more MVPS
* MJ has more Finals MVPs (record)
* MJ has more DPOYS
* MJ has more all defensive 1st teams (T-
record)
* MJ has more scoring titles (record)
* MJ has more steals titles
* MJ has more times finishing top 5 in MVP and
DPOY voting in the same season (record)
* MJ has same amount of times finishing top 2
in MVP (Less seasons then Lebron) (T-record)
* MJ has more times finishing top 5 in DPOY
(record)
* Averages more PG in the regular season and
playoffs (both records)
* Averages more OREB in the regular season
and playoffs
* Averages more BPG in the regular season
* Averages more SPG in the regular season and
playoffs
* Higher PER in the regular season and playoffs
(both records)
* Higher BPM in the regular season and
playoffs (both records)
* Higher win shares per 48 in the regular
season and playoffs (both records)
* Higher FT% in the regular season and
playoffs
* Higher FG% in the regular season (on the
Bulls)
* Less TOV in the regular season and playoffs
* Lebron has never had a 200 steal season or
an 100 block season. MJ has had this both in
one season, twice (record)
* Beaten more 50 win teams in the playoffs
AND...he took time off to play Baseball...and came back and destroyed the league...again LMAO
WrD2...
Well damn...I didnt scroll down this far at first lol.
Yeah it's not even close. This young generation is clueless. Lebron is a great player, not hating. But he ain't greater than MJ or Kareem. And Steph has 4 rings in what is suppose to be Lebron's era....Tell me how that works? How twisted is the mind that has Lebron at 1 and Steph at 10? MJ gets 6 titles in the team he was drafted to....Kobe 5, Magic 5, Tim Duncan 5, Steph 4. It's a pity Lebron never stayed in Cleveland, just by going to Miami without winning one disqualifies him from GOAT conversation, even Giannis got one in the team he was drafted by and before year 10.
And I don’t understand how they put Bron over Kobe and if I had a NBA team Lebron wouldn’t even be a pick
@@jacksmith4460 HE DID NOT!! Sorry, I was there and people keep making this mistake. His Dad was murdered and then he came out and said he was retiring so that at least his dad would have seen every basketball game he ever played in. He played baseball because he didn't want to play basketball after his father (who had been to every one of his games) was killed. People forget this. And also I'm not a basketball fan but I know this because I was an MJ fan...what he did transcended basketball.
In 19 seasons you've never seen bron catch half the amount of body's at the rim jordan got in 13 seasons. Bron got Cleveland a ring, cool. But Jordan turned Chicago from dumpster to dynasty...2 3peats in 8 yrs and never had to leave or recruit other players...bron had 8 straight trips to the finals on superteams and couldn't 3peat once....the comparison is not even close. It's actually an insult to compare bron to jordan. You'll never see a player 3peat, retire in his prime, comeback and 3peat again, never see a game 7 in the finals... that will likely never happen again in the NBA as long as it exist... nobody has ever dominated this game like MJ did. He's in a class of his own. The 🐐..period.
SPEAK!!!
It's okay, every magazine, book, etc. still lists Jordan at #1.
I agree winning the championship was easy but getting to the Finals was tough considering Detroit, New York etc.
Except Dennis Rodman but, still agree with the statement
I dont really get the Lebron argument at all. Individually, he doesn’t have the same tools MJ did. He is not a very good mid range shooter and MJ was the most lethal especially during the 2nd 3peat. If you analyze LBJ’s FG%, most of his shots came from within 3 feet from the basket. Even with most of his shots as dunks and layups, his FG% is just a hair better than Jordan. LBJ had 0 scoring titles to support his argument as a better offensive force than MJ. Bron is clearly not a good free throw shooter while MJ was very good considering all the contact he’s had to deal with. Bron is a volume assist guy. He’s not a trick passer like Magic or Nash was. MJ from the video was clearly a good passer if he needed to be. In terms of defense, MJ had so much accolades than Bron. MJ was always relentless on defense and never rested on defense like Lebron.
I’m not even going to talk about finals records because its clearly in favor of MJ. I’ve never heard of a GOAT who has a losing record. I dont understand why LBJ can bypass greats like Kareem or even Duncan who had better careers. Like what the guy in the video said, he had so much advantages in terms of training, nutrition, etc. and Bron still fell short.
Secondly, the argument that the 2016 warriors is greater than the 96 bulls is the same as the argument that Lebron is greater than Jordan because he was in the finals 10 times. Both did not see it through to the end. They had an opportunity to topple the GOAT and his team but they were not good enough. Otherwise, their arguments would have made sense and not just based on conjecture or what ifs. The facts remain that whether individually or team accomplishments, there is no contest.
Lastly, the only thing that Lebron can do to beat MJ is to be a better team owner than him because the latter is terrible as such. Its too late to try and surpass him as a player unless he has a time machine.
I think it all started when Lebron claimed he was the greatest ever during that interview. But dude has played almost and getting close to 20 years, still has not caught up to Jordan yet. I think if anyone was closest to Jordan, it was most likely Kobe.
MJ was and still is the G.O.A.T.🐐
Warriors may have went 73-9, but the Bulls motto was " dont mean a thing without the ring" the Warriors didnt finish the job,he went to 45 because because it was his first number in high school amd he didn't want to wear 23 since his dad was gone
Listen. I'm in my late 40's. I have played a TON of basketball in my life. Open gyms, parks, I'd be in 4 or 5 different leagues during prime basketball season. I say this not to "toot my own horn", or relive my "glory days", so save your disparaging comments like that. I say that so you know I've played and watched my fair share of basketball. So, I watched Michael his whole career. Also, I'm from the Cleveland area and MJ killed us more times that you can count. Conversely being from the Cleveland area, I've heard all about LeBron since he was in Jr. high and watched his entire career and very much enjoyed the 2016 Championship LeBron brought Cleveland. Having hated MJ for how he destroyed our teams and LeBron giving us a championship... I would unequivocally say that MJ is the GOAT. You crack me up with your stopping the video and say, "oh that's like when Vince Carter did this", or "that reminds me of Steph Curry doing that".. where do you think all those guys got that from?? Why do you think guys like Kobe and LeBron grew up idolizing MJ?? If social media was around when MJ played... there would be statues and shrines all over the country for this guy. Actually watching his career and watch a 20 minute "highlight" clip are definitely 2 very different things. It's not your fault, you only know what you know. You grew up with LeBron and that's what you've seen most of so it's hard to imagine anyone better. I'm sure that's the same as me growing up with MJ and all the old timers at the time saying "Oscar Robertson was better"... or "He ain't got nothing on Wilt"... and I thought that was crazy of them to say. But take it from people who have actually seen BOTH of their careers play out and is from Cleveland area where LeBron is King. MJ is GOAT. MJ averaged 30 in his day...? He would have averaged 50 in today's NBA. No blood, no foul was real back then. Hand checking (or grabbing) was a thing. You had enforcers on teams that their sole job was to inflict pain and protect the paint. You went down the lane and a price was to be paid.
Lebron having the higher stat totals simply boils down to more games played. Yes longevity is obviously a plus, but when talking numbers it has to be mentioned in context. Lebron took far more games than MJ to amass those same numbers. Also, with the whole longevity thing, all athletes from this generation are going to play longer than those of past eras simply because of the advances in medicine and science. There’s a reason Lebron is still able to play at the level he does at his age, Brady the same and countless others. So much emphasis on taking care of your body now, and so much more tech and equipment to help you
Case in point... Stockton sucked but gets mentioned as a top 2 or 3 PG all time when people look at stats. Top in career assists because he ran pick n roll with Malone 70 times a game and played forever.
Also the game was more physical back then. You literally had to know how to fight because you was going to. A tech now probably wouldn't have even been a foul back then. Nobody flopped, if you went to the ground it was because somebody wanted you on the ground
@@nathanlawson313 Stockton didn't suck.
6 RINGS all im sayiing, in13 years.
also cause if you sneeze on them it's a technical. no wonder players careers were shorter, the game was more physical so it took more of a toll on their bodies
I will take the Bulls 72-10 season ending in an NBA Championship over the Warriors "soft era" 73-9 and 2nd Place.
Any day of the week! That Bulls team would mop the floor with that Warriors team! Especially if they played with the old rules.
Another thing kids don't get is that when MJ was in the NBA, his fame was Beatles level, Michael Jackson in the 80s level. People used to go crazy. I don't think really any player currently in the NBA gets that. Maybe in the city they play with, but I don't think that there has been that type of reaction to a player maybe since Shaq.
I get where you are coming from but seeing MJ and Lebton play live do you think Lebron would or could play all 82 games back in 96 while in his prime?
I mean Levron has missed over 3 seasons in his career so let's not inflate or durability too much.
Players back then rarely missed a game even with injuries. They didn't have a massive pool of rookies and international players that play on a week-long contract.
You just played or you get the boot.
Michael Jordan's most underrated physical attribute is his abnormally large hands. His 'predicted height' based on his hand size is close to 8 feet tall. Relatively close in height; Kawhi Leonard and Dr. J. have similarly disproportionately large hands, but they are an inch or 2 taller and a little 'stiffer.' The combination of hand size, body control, coordination, and vertical jumping (maybe in that order) is what makes the Jordan hangtime illusion.
In fact, you are reacting to emotion. Your emotions told you to NOT say that Jordan is the GOAT even after you watched this. It was clear in your face that you were struggling with your emotions and chose to not admit that you believed Jordan was the GOAT after watching this. Your EMOTIONS are with Lebron. Those are the facts. And I'm not a person that argues Jordan or Lebron as the GOAT. There are at least 3 GOATs to me that can be argued either way.
Oh, and I'd rather have 5 people who are a master at their positions rather than 5 people who are 70% good at each position. So that argument about mastery vs versatility only holds up in certain circumstances. That is one reason why it's impossible to argue who is the one and only GOAT.
The GREATEST to ever do it and it ain’t close.
MJ is 10x the player Bron could ever dream to be, but is not the clear cut "GOAT"! It took him 7 years to learn how to win, other came onto NBA being the leaders and creating a winning culture form day 1! All this nonsense that MJ played with crackheads and alcoholics is a joke! He played with NBA players, but was NOT able to get them to come together as a team. That is 99% on him. Lebron is even worse, he needed to create a superteam to compete for a title. MJ had to take what he was given to "earn" his rings.
P.S. Having a prime Pippen and adding Dennis Rodman was unfair to the rest of NBA at the time. Rodman did everything (the best ever) that MJ didn't!
This younger generation
See greatness in front of them and still don't realize it
LeBron can't do half of what Jordan could do
This child is wearing glasses that may be able to show Pluto but can’t see truth on a screen 1 foot away.
Kid nobody has a bag like this not Wade LeBron stop it
NOT a pushoff. I was expecting you to say that. Russell had already overcommitted. His momentum had taken him out of good defensive position and his shoulders were not even close to square with Jordan. The hand on Russell's hip was barely touching. Not a push-off and not a foul. Also, this doesn't show the series of previous plays including the brilliant steal from Karl Malone that led up to this shot.
Jordan had a 48" vertical, tied for highest ever in the NBA, ran a 4.2 (fastest ever), and was mentally stronger than anyone that's played the game. All of that, and we haven't even talked about basketball yet. Do you think LeBron would last as long as he had if he had to go up against the Celtics, Pistons, and dudes like Malone (who would have no trouble physically handling LeBron every time he tried to go into the paint)?
Props for having an open mind, doing your research, and coming to your own conclusions, even if I disagree with them. Keep applying and honing that skill in everything you do in life, and you'll be remembered as a wise man. I've never met two people that agree on 100% of everything. So if I, you, and society can accept that reality and work towards living in harmony and basic human respect for one another despite our differences, we'll leave the earth better than we found it.
I'm a firm believer in the theory that more diversity makes for a more robust intellectual institution. If you have one person standing in a fixed spot on any given side of a house, they won't be able to tell you what all 4 sides look like.
This Historic Bulls Mixtape was just the appetizer please also react to Jordan Voyager 1 and 2
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What makes Jordan considered the GOAT is his defense, dynamic/creativity, durability and playoff success. He's the ultimate 2 way player top 10 all time in both offense and defense. Of course players like Curry have elite shooting and Lebron elite physical strength that Jordan didn't have but specifically those areas Jordan separates himself from the other modern elites.
That 73 & 9 Warriors team lost in the Finals and that 72 & 10 Bulls team didn't. Big difference
The reason LeBron has Jordan beat in longevity stats is because LeBron played about 18 "full" seasons compared to 13 "full" seasons for MJ. And even with that advantage, Jordan is still top 5 all time in TWO major statistical categories: scoring (5th) and steals (3rd). And all the people who are ahead of Jordan in each of those categories played 18 seasons minimum.
LeBron is top 5 all time in only one statistical categor (so far): scoring (2nd).
😭😂 you on the learning tree. We accept LeBron is your goat. I like Lebron too, he just not better than Jordan. We so called old heads know what we saw for 13 seasons with the bulls. This man was not human, but he was. Mj suffered alot for those rings & never took the easy way out.
A news reporter asked MJ is he thought the 90's Bulls teams could beat Lebron's lakers. MJ said yes. The reporter asked by how much. MJ replied 2 or 3 points. The reporter asked why such a close game? MJ replied...well most of us are almost 60 now.
😆classic 🐐 Jordan
Everyone knows MJ is the GOAT. There is no comparison.
Compare Labrons best 15 seasons to Jordan's 15 seasons. It won't be close labron will have all the records because he's a genetic freak. MJ had no weakness in his game now labron has a few weaknesses in his game
Poor shooter
Very poor from the line
He's a liability on defense at time's
Labron is great but he didn't dominate his generation in dominate fashion like Mike did. Mj would easily dominate this era and probably averages 45+ no hand checks no bodying driving shooter giving MJ clear shots lol.. forget it
MJ dominated and dunked on a complete generation of HOF'ERS
the reason they are more "versatile" is because they removed most of the contact and defensive focus of the game. If you reintroduced those two things into today's NBA, all of that versatility and/or talent would no longer be there. One could easily make the argument it took MORE talent and versatility to play in an era of contact and where defense not only was a larger part of the game, but would actually build teams that made it it's focus.
Jordan is the reason players are more versatile today. Ydk the impact the man even had on the game dude, then u don't even know basketball.
Jordan... the Best Player on Offense, the Best Player on Defense, the most Clutch player ever, and as you can see from that video, he is also the Most Entertaining Player of ALL Time. When he was playing, it was MUST Watch TV!!!!!!!!!
Jordan is Easily the GOAT, not even close. As Magic himself said: "“There’s Michael Jordan... and then there’s (the rest of us) everyone else”.
All stats where Lebron leads are longevity stats son. Per game stats and advanced analytics MJ has him beaten. You could not be more ignorant if you wanted. All your assessments at the beginning of the video are flawed. You need to educate yourself concerning basketball history
Fact's
He's stubborn. No point in exhausting ur energy on the blind
Get this man to 500 and maybe he’ll admit Jordan is better than LeBron 😂😂 (prolly not…)
This statement may or may not be true we’ll have to see 😂
LeBron James would not last in Jordan's era he wouldn't make it through half a season and how can you call a guy the goat whenever he can't even get his team to the playoffs when everybody goes to the playoffs in this era
Michael Jordan is a better shooter than LeBron James he's a better defensive player he's a better free throw shooter he's more clutch he's a better finisher MJ has much better fundamentals and footwork ,Michael Jordan is the only player that I've ever seen that has absolutely no weaknesses to even compare LeBron James with Michael Jordan is absolutely ridiculous
And I think you definitely should stop reacting to Michael Jordan because all of you bronsexuals are the weirdest people I've ever seen ... LeBron isn't even in my top five players if you want to be honest I think Kareem's better than him I think Kobe's better than him I think Birds better than him LeBron is a terrible shooter he can't make a free throw and he doesn't play D and he's soft there ain't nobody afraid of LeBron even ex-nba players that played against Jordan and played against LeBron every single one says the same thing it's Jordan all day
And if Jordan was playing in this era he would have rings on his toes by now... and also you lose six times in the NBA finals sorry you are not the goat
how I look at it: In LeBron's prime he's taking his team to the Finals every time. In MJ's prime he's winning the Finals every time.
The thing is, this kind of stuff happened *every night!* You were going to see something outstanding and incredible when he hit the court.
There is a whole highlight video just on his layup package. He could have a whole mixtape on defense … and we don’t even want to talk about his automatic midrange.
Also, keep in mind that, yes, you’ve seen younger players do similar things, but Jordan did them *first* 🙂 and you also need *multiple players* to equal one MJ lol!
You should do a reaction video on the “The Greatest Goat Comparison” by Dangerous Productions. He truly breaks down the debate and puts all stats into context. I personally believe what is missing when analyzing the two is putting their comparable stats and accomplishments into context of the era, they played, the level of competition, and what the difference is between longevity ( playing longer) and being a better player (how dominant they where at their peaks) along with how long their peaks lasted. This comparison does all of that and gives average fans context to make an informed decision on who was the better player.
He wouldn't be able to handle it. U can tell from his emotions going crazy inside as he watched the vid. He can't accept the fact that jordan is just a better player and did more than lebron in less time.
Lol I wouldn't show it to him. He's not ready or mature enough to accept things yet. The video would absolutely tear him apart.
If u didn’t know when Jordan is wearing black shoes it’s a playoff game .the team wore black shoes for playoff games for unity and sell more black shoes
This guy set the record for most copium ingested before doing a reaction
😂 seriously, I’ve never heard such dumbassery come out of a human’s mouth.
Dont forget he does this all in 10 years
Happiness is watching Lebron fans when they know Jordons the goat but don’t want to admit it lol
LeBron orchestrated a super team in Miami and failed half of 4 years only won twice. He should have won every year. Had the best team favored to win all 4 years failed 50% Jordan on his own team that drafted him won every year he was supposed to
You seem to be unbiased and that's great. I think Michael is the G.O.A.T of his era.
These boys don't get it. They never watched MJ take over game after game. They never saw him humiliate some of the best players to ever lace them up time after time. If MJ played in this cotton candy ass Era today, he'd average 45 and still be the best defender in the game. He's a killer, plain and simple. Today's game doesn't have any killers
If you haven’t seen Jordan in the Wizards you might want to watch a bit before saying he wasn’t good. He came down from a spot of ownership of the team to play because they were so bad and still got a winning record while he was playing.
MJ is to basketball as Tyson is to boxing. GOAT.
Bro, hand checking was outlawed and it’s easier for offensive players to get off due to rule changes. Did you say Mike didn’t do “dribble moves?”
He was averaging 25-5-5 on one leg at 40. Shouting from half court doesn't make you a good player.
The fact when this man quit basketball to play professional baseball, got bored, and won 3 more rings is amazing!!!
Lebron career package will never look like this when he is done. Lebron has no MOVES! Just athletic, passing and reading offense and defense. Jordan is the total package and clutch. Both ends no one goes harder than Jordan and Giannas (both ends) most of the game. Lebron has defense plays but never goes that hard in the game both ends. Just play the blame and care about what others are doing. Naw Jordan that dude. Pass me the ball and get out the way. His mentality for winning is why is 6-0 in the FINALS. Not about who had. As long as there were 10 people on the court, MJ was the best one played like it and showed up and NEVER cared about SENSELESS STATS!!!
You kno wats funny, these aren't even all his highlights...u mentioned kobe, lebron, wade, Carter, they ALL copy the game from jordan....so, u just a stubborn...he's da goat... that's why u wearing his shoes
“Jordan’s team got to the semi finals after he left”. In reality, they went from NBA Champions to winning a single playoff round that year - 7 other teams won at least a single round that year too. When Jordan left the Bulls in 93/94, the team was still in tact. When Leflop leaves teams he leaves carnage behind - teams that have traded away the their future for a bunch of rentals. Lets also remember that all of those records Leflop has set have been set in an era where it is much less physical and much easier to both score and get to the rim. 3’s were just not a main part of the offence in Jordan’s era yet he has a higher seasonal PPG average than any player other than Wilt Chamberlain at 37.1 PPG, and he set that in a season where he shot than 1 triple attempt per game and had a 3pt shooting average below 20%. You talk about versatile because a 7’er can pull up and take a 3, but how about the guy that was a rim attacker when he came into the league, converted himself to one of the best jump shooters in the game, became a brilliant post player despite being only 6’6” and was a hugely under rated passer as he recorded a triple double 10 out of the 11 games Doug Collins had him playing point guard in the 88/89 season. People give Leflop credit for being diverse - he’s a bad FT shooter, he’s an awful defender most of the time, his shooting percentage outside of 3’ is below 38% (Jordan shot almost 42% from beyond 3’ playing for the Wizards as a 40 year old).
Jordan never lost in the finals 👏
Michael Jordan can do everything on the basketball court that everyone else can do but not everyone else can do what Michael Jordan can do on the basketball court
Definition of goat is he did it all before anyone else...Pele was the same way.
"Warriors went 73-9"
How'd the championship go for em? I'm getting old. I forget how much they celebrated that championship they won after that 73-9 season. Man, I bet that was sweet. I bet Steph REALLY loves looking back on THAT season. 😉
All that contact and not one clip of him crying to a ref. He'd just stare the defender down.
I was born in 94 and have seen all of lebrons career. Jordan is the goat lol and hopefully by now you’ve educated yourself on Jordan’s wizards years.
Today’s NBA is powderpuff versus what it was in the 1980s / 1990s
73 -9 Warriors, didn't have LeBron, so no need to bring that up. I am basing my decision off of facts lol. No where on this planet is LeBron better than Jordan. Michael Jordans legacy is without question better, as for LeBron? He only wins the longevity arguement cause of modern technology and medicines. People that LeBron goes against? They dont even play defense this gen, and LeBron cant even raise his FT % into the 80s for a decade+ now. LeBron is uncoachable and is playing GM, and Jordan does not lead the NBA in turnovers.
You are a great source of entertainment fighting the fact Jordan was great. You try your best to disqualify anything Jordan did, and it is obvious.
I hate when y’all bring up the Wizards years…he took 3 years off, not working out drinking, getting fat and was 39 when he came back…Lebron is a great player but he’s number one in stats because of longevity…stats don’t make u the GOAT…being the most unstoppable player and exploiting ur mismatch every night is what makes u the GOAT!!! Not once do I remember Jordan’s teams losing and I felt it was his fault or he didn’t play to his max that game…I have felt that way several times watching Bron! I’ve seen him give up on the court!
LEBRON CANNOT DO THESE MOVES, WHERE DID YOU SEE BRON DO THIS? WHEREEEEEEEE SPACE JAM?
Doesnt need to be based on emotions. Based it on facts. Athletes are getting better in an athletic point of view every year because of technology and early preparation/recognition, Lebron could be leading in “stats” because he is freaking doing it in 20 years. Goat is someone’s ability to emerge from the crowd that makes someone special. Dont compare eras bro. And dont discredit how good 90’s basketball are
Some more background of #45. His older brother larry wore that number so michael took #23 hoping he could be half as good as him when he was growing up.
Let it go young man, he's THE GOAT....... PERIOD.
Some of your comments, I just have to shake my head. You are worried about MJ's jump shot release, when he's hands down the best midrange shooter of all time. He took twice the amount that Reggie Miller did during a late 90's season, and made 50% of his jumpers that year. Meanwhile Lebron is a career sub .400 shooter beyond 3ft. But in the "weak" era he gets six layups a night so no one notices.
And about James spending money on his body: if he played in the 90's he'd make 3-5 million a year and would spend a fraction of that amount. And I know he has a cool looking body and all, but if he tried to play the four against Malone or Barkley for example, he'd get ragdolled to the moon in the post. They wouldn't even notice him. Having a free lane and gathering speed from half court when no one can't touch you is cool, but James couldn't even solve the corpse of Shawn Marion guarding him when Dallas kept Chandler in the lane the whole series. Anyone who brings up James in the GOAT conversation after that series has no idea what they are talking about. Standards are too high and just because they make the game even easier for you after that, you don't get extra GOAT points for longevity. And even that title belongs to Kareem. Jabbar has 6 MVP's and 6 titles, he was the Finals MVP at age 38 and did it while making a million a year and flying coach. That's like playing 30 seasons now.. And Kareem had a ton of more competition at his position than Lebron.
Jordan is the past, present, and future... look at all the current player who try to play like him... Jordan was the best in the world without social media..
All nba players said he would drop 50 in this era because you can’t even touch anyone anymore! He would end up at the free throw line twice as much!
No weaknesses. No flopping. No quitting mid game. No leaving to join super teams. No load management. No fear of taking the last shot. No choking play off series. No losing play off series while having home court advantage. No losing more than 2 games in a row in almost a span of a decade. No embarassingly bad series played. No finals series lost. No letting off defensive and offensive pressure night in and night out. No lack of killer will. No fear of guarding the opponents best player. A joy to watch. An honor to have seen play.
You said it perfectly, bro.
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Yep Jordan was as big as Elvis Presley lol. Jordan was a killer and he was the goat.
Lebron GOAT bwahahaha MISSING A PLAYOFFS and swept in the Final TWICE 😂 😂 😂 😂
🎯💯 let these casuals who only look at stats and youtube clips talk that junk. Those of us who saw Mj play night in and night out know whats up. This is coming from a Knicks fan, Jordan is the best, period, by any standard of measure. Bob Cousy i think described it best, "Michael Jordan is the Mona Lisa of basketball".
I'm a 44 year old NY Knicks fan. I grew up watching MJ beat my Knicks for most of my life. I hate Jordan for keeping my Knicks out of the finals, but I have to respect the man as the greatest of all time.
i applaud your honesty
In the last 50 years, Career Résumé - Total Achievements: (Titles / MVPs / Finals MVPs / 1st All-NBA / 1st All-DEF / Scoring Titles/ All-Star MVPs)
1st: Jordan = 49
2nd: Kobe = 34
2nd: LeBron = 34
4th: Kareem = 33
5th: Duncan = 29
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You can debate 2nd-5th place but Jordan is so far ahead of everyone else…it’s not even close. Also the most amazing thing is that Jordan accomplished all this while playing in at least 5 years less than the other players
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To put things into perspective, players like Giannis and Curry each have 14 Career Total Achievements
This highlight reel is the tip of the iceberg. Speaking as someone who watched MJ live for most of his career. A legend, unparalleled.
Lebron would've tapped out in the 80's and 90's. Rick Mahorn, Bill Laimbeer and Dennis Rodman would have sent him to therapy.
Don't forget Buck Williams, Larry Johnson, Anthony Mason, Charles Oakley, Barkley, the Davis brothers in Indiana.
Lol yes!😆👍
Xavier Mcdaniel, Charles Okaley, Anthony Mason , Charles Barkley, David Robinson, Shaq, Sean Rook, The Davis brothers, Karl Malone...etc
Nah, that's not true at all. He should've adapted just fine. He would've been in fights and probably injured earlier bc they were dirty, but he would've survived just fine
@@3COI He had the physical attributes to do so, but some of his actions over the years brings the question of if he had the mentality to handle it.
Let's not forget, there wouldn't have been the casual jumping teams that he did, so depending on the year, he could have been stuck on a team for a long time.
I've seen Jordan's entire career and believe me, he wouldn't struggle today... not even a little
That man would run the NBA today with all them whistles blowin.
Sorry, but as a person that is from Chicago and has watched MJ from the beginning, I have to tell you that MJ WOULD NOT have struggled in this era....at all. He was way ahead of his time with his style of play. That is why he made guys look like they were standing still. Listen to all of the legends that played against him. This era of ball works in MJ's favor. A prime MJ was EXTREMELY quick. MJ of the late 80s would jump out of the gym. The MJ of the 1990s became a smarter player. Don't forget, MJ played with the Wizards in the early 2000s. Even then, he was STILL putting up numbers! MJ has an exceptionally high basketball IQ. You don't think having that, along with extreme competitiveness coupled with an almost psychotic killer instinct wouldn't put him in the highest ranks?
The reason why you have so many of us coming at you young folks is that
1.) Most of you do not know or study Michael's career in depth, then you make assessments based on little to no information.
2.) Those of us that were around to see MJ play KNOW what he's done and are SHOCKED when we hear such outrageous claims.
3.) Many of you cannot except that maybe the greatest player ever WAS NOT in your era.
**You may have seen Lebron or Kobe do those moves, but WHERE do you think they came from?? So when I hear you say that, I just think you are finding a way to minimize what MJ was doing. To me, that's just being petty. The fact that reactors like yourself don't know WHY he wore the number 45 pretty much makes my case that you don't know his career well enough to be critical.
Warriors had 73-9, but what happened to them in the finals??
73-9 is cool, but 72-10 has a RING to it...
i’m not reading all of that but uh sorry that happened to you
@@rosella.e You're on the wrong post. Sorry that you actually had to read something...🤷🏾♂️
This dude is a kid who has no clue. I expect stupid thoughts like this.
Wasup Chicago? Detroit here. Went to my first pistons game in 88. Met Jordan once. He tried picking up my girlfriend right in front of me. I hate Jordan. He is the goat tho. No debate.
Mj would shoot 40 free throws per game if he played now..
Nobody will EVER compile a career mixtape like Jordan! He is by far the GOAT!
MJ never took a break, he gave a 100% on both end of the floor. But can we say the same for James.
No. Also, back in the 70s, 80s, and 90s, you had to be a MAN to withstand the rigors of the NBA. Now we have this flopping, limp-wristed brand of basketball where one guy dribbles down the court and the other 4 stand around outside the 3 point line. Even the pick-and-roll is becoming more rare. Everybody just wants to shoot 3s. Back in the day you could get close-lined and the refs would look at you and laugh. Now, you might get a flagrant 2 for giving an opponent the side-eye. I hope they keep Kleenex tissues at the scorer's table for all the crying.🤣 I'm pretty sure Lebron could have played during those early eras, BUT he would NOT be dominant vs a prime Shaq, Wilt, Moses, Maurice Lucas, Dave Cowens, Unseld, Olajuwon, Barkley, the BAD Boys of Detroit, Magic, Boston's Big 3, and many, MANY more.
As great as this mixtape is, this is nothing when you take into account that MJ played like this every single game. Its truly a shame for those who didn’t see him play. He was basketball perfection. No one’s at Jordan’s level, maybe in the future someone will come. He’s light years ahead of the current guys. LeBron never had a chance, bless his soul
They don't know. It's a shame.
Every game he played all out.
I’ve never seen Lebum even do 10% of what Jordan can do 🤷🏻♂️
Yeah. This kid is buggin.
Come on bro, maybe 11%
Actually jordan never flopped, so lebron is 100% at flopping vs jordan
When this dude said "ok, LB did the same stuff I watched on the video 'till now" I truly understood the real meaning of "fun": blindness. 😂
@Jamal please stooop 😂😂😂🤣
Blessed to have grown up watching this man. No one will ever understand without going back and watching games. He was a gamer. He was built differently from any athlete ive ever seen. This mixtape doesnt do what he was justice.
What made MJ great were his actual skills. His footwork was immaculate, his movement without the ball was so effective. The way he dismissed double teams was brilliant. And he did it all with fluidity and grace. MJ could go on a massive scoring run any time he wanted, but there were also times where his scoring was so spaced out and within the offense that you'd be surprised at the end of the game just how much he scored. This is how proficient he was : In his last year with the Bulls, MJ averaged holding the ball for just 3 mins 45 seconds per game and still scored a little under 30 a game. So each quarter he held the ball for just a little over 56 seconds. Incredible. MJ dominated in the toughest defensive era in NBA history.
You really said you have seen Lebron do a double clutch up and under jumpshot??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
What kind of drugs are you on?
this kid is definitely a 🤡🤡🤡💩💩💩
I’m trynna figure that out too 🤣
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😂😂😂
Warriors had 73 and 9 with no title, Bulls 72 and 10 as champions!
Exactly. This Warriors team blew a 3-1 lead. This only proves how weak mentally they were.
@@air2373 were but now?
@@air2373 but they had 3 starters that fell to injury
@@revertedrf978 always some kind of Excuses, broken arm, my teammates, the other team was too strong, didn’t have enough help
Bulls went 15-3 in the playoffs that year. Warriors had more losses than that even before the finals started. At a 15-9 playoff record, they had as many losses in the playoffs as they did in the regular season.
I saw both mj and lj many times live and the biggest difference in my mind and it was an obvious difference is that mj played all out every second of every game as hard as he could win or lose on defense too. He never coasted or played defense a little lazy. You stood the entire game because you knew you were going to see some shit.
You KNOW you don’t get this feeling when you watch LBJ highlights….MJ the GOAT
Watching Bron is like watching a big stiff stick figure that does a bunch of tomahawk dunks. Shit is boring.
You just watched the greatest ever, seen his full career and Lebron and even though wasn't a Bulls fan if you saw what many of us saw MJ do you'd realize what most of us know. Dude played full out and was as tenacious a defender as a scorer and was no liability off the free throw line. Dude took basically 2 years off and came back leading another 3 peat. Lebron is a great player and definitely top 5 but not nearly the complete package MJ was.
true.
@@ghaile7919 lebron is not top 5 I don't respect ring chasing
Those are the FACTS and they are UNDISPUTED....💯💣💥✌🎤
@@caribbeangoldgroup9402 opps! its the top five of starting at the bottom up🤣🤣🤣
...actually he watched 90% of the video, but happened to _look away_ during at least 3 of the best, most unique highlights in this package... SO IRRITATING! Every...single...time X-(
Jordan is not 70% at anything, he is 100% at EVERYTHING
more like 92.7% 😁
true MJ is always 100% even more in everything👋👋👋
He's creative at everything there is even shoes my bro👌😉
definitely not at 3 pointers but they weren't a factor in his Era.
@Jamal at what? He is not even better in his dreams. Still chasing the ghost from Chicago
Dear Steve Urkel,
One thing that this video does not display is Michael's triple threat pull up shot. He could go full speed right, left, or straight ahead with the ability to pull up on a dime. His triple threat combined with his first step made him unstoppable during 84-93.
If you pay attention to Lebron's game, he always goes left and likes to drift left on his jump when shooting. Lebron is great, but he has no pull up as a go to move. And do not forget free throws: The man has air balled free throws (3) times as a Laker.
The only thing that you got right was Wizards MJ. Wizards MJ was painful to watch and so are you.
You mentioned how people are more versatile in this era.
That is true, and it has its pros and cons.
A positionless era in basketball is good in terms of the element of surprise, but it also makes the league uniform and stale since no one has a specialty anymore.
It's also really rare for players to succeed without focusing a lot of effort into mastering their own style of play.
Curry, Giannis and LeBron all have different styles of play unique to them which makes them both exciting to watch and successful in winning games.
So having the more "predictable" position-based era in Jordan's career isn't exactly a bad thing.
And in terms of talent, I believe the past and present eras are equal.
Just different.
No one rebounds or plays defense the same way Rodman does anymore.
Does that mean this era is less talented in defense than Rodman's era?
No.
These players from different eras are just built different for different games.
Anyone can fly a plane after someone shows them how to. You keep seeing you've seen lebron do it but the difference is no one was doing the things Jordan was doing before him. He invented what most players have practiced their whole lives knowing was possible. The greats elevate the game to a new level that before them people didn't realize was possible. That's what Jordan did. TBH that's what Steph has done.
And to add LeBron has never.
You made a great point. But to add, when he said that he's said seen Lebron do the things Jordan did, there's not much of it. The "creativeness" that Jordan brought to identify his game is something I've never seen in Lebron nor the moves that this youngster has claimed. A couple of them, yeah but not frequent or a regular to say the least. James' way of playing basketball is rather stiff and a lot of the versatility that people claim he has is a but exaggerated. Jordan was ahead of his time and would continue to do so if he were to play in any era. Not only because of his adaptation characteristic, but his standard of playing/pacing is beyond any player or era we have seen.
bron has never done most of this
His role on the bulls was to score. In the 88-89 season he played as a point guard and had a triple double in 7 straight games. (LeBron has never done that.) out of the 11 games he played as a facilitator, 10 of those were triple doubles. He averaged 32ppg 11asts 10reb that month. So it’s not like he was un capable of being all-around, his role was to score & simultaneously lock up the opposition. He’s the only player in league history to have a season with 100+ blocks & 200+ steals. He did that twice. Just keep your mind open, see things for what they are. You’ll see the truth.
Preach brotha bluey!! Learnify these young bloods some factifications!
that's what I call doing the research to become better educated....thanks for sharing the 4-1-1 on MJs point guard role....👌
Lebron did it TWICE to when he got it SWEPT in the Finals…. 😂
you are correct. but that's not all his role was. he was also to fill in where they were lacking. if they needed more rebounds, he got more, if they needed more assists, he got more. Jordan was far more of a complete player than he's given credit for cause his skill at scoring was so kuch higher than everyone else so that's all they focus on.
The thing everyone who touts Lebron’s passing ability over Jordan seems to forget is that Jordan was a great passer - as you say, when he played point guard for 11 games, he got 10 triple doubles, but even as a shooting guard he handled the ball more than the point guard, the problem is when you pass the ball and get it back, nobody records it.
Never heard Jordan say he needs more people like your boy 🤡🤡🤡
Jordan wasnt washed up in the Wizards. He was really still putting up good states. The team chemistry was totally new. Basically one of the weaknesses of Lebron. Even though hes a team player than a scorer. But he was always trying to find a team with the best lineup but the chemistry wasnt there no matter how much elite players is in his team. During Jordans time with the Bulls. Even though Jordan was a scorer. He had many years to cultivate and understand his teammates and tailor the team to his play style. They uplifted each other to become greater players as time went by. Lebron is too impatient and as soon as there is an opening to get into a team with a better lineup of names. Lebron also had no blood and thunder type attitude to want to defeat the best out there. Instead choose the easy way. Find a team of dominant players and join them. He joins to get a super team. While Jordan cultivated a super team over years with the exception of the addition of Dennis Rodman. Then you talk about people of Lebrons era. They have more lenient rule sets. And even the best out there say with all the rules set before him. He can score even more easily compared to what he had to go against. All the greats say he would easy put up 50 points a game in todays league and you say the players today on another level? YOUR era people are even allowed to travel much less hand check.
MJ on the Wizards had to get his knee drained before every f*ycking game in his late 30s, and at 40yrs old. Lebron would've quit!
Warriors had 73 - 9 but they didn’t get the chip like the Bulls did and it don’t mean a thing without the ring.
Thank You. This dude is funny.
Also that Warriors were near elimination against Thunder on semi-finals narrowly avoiding one of biggest upset further disqualifying them from the greatest team.
That's the type of mentality these kids have today. They are full on stans they believe what they want because they have the powers of TH-cam and NBA2K to validate them.
Hallelujah. Please
The Warriors also had a number to shoot for. The Bulls were looking to beat 69 to get the record. Bulls are also tied for third with 69 wins the next season.
back in the days bulls games were televised nationally on WGN and TNT. we got to watch nationally every game he played. as someone who watched 90% of them and saw the brilliance I'll always put Jordan as the goat. started watching when dr.j played and have watched since then. I've seen many g8 players including lebron but none did what Jordan did.
Theres no shame on being a Lebron fan. There is no shame in Lebron or anyone else being your favorite player, hell Larry Bird is my favorite of all time, but that doesnt mean he is the GOAT. Lebron has longevity....which will give him the end up stats. Take Lebrons best 15 years and i am willing to bet they dont beat MJ's numbers for his career. Ontop of that I just cant stress enough that MJ...actually played both sides of the court...he played damn near every single game. Compared to Lebron that refuses to play defense in most of his games because he doesnt have the stamina to go ham on both sides of the court. Lebron doesnt want to guard the best guy, or have the best guy guard him. MJ DEMANDED this. Again there is nothing wrong with loving Lebron, just look at him for what he is not what you glaze him up to be. Same goes for Jordan fans, he wasnt a god that made every shot and won every game
If LeBron spends that much time on his body then that means he should be better than he is. But he's not. You can lead every stat in NBA History. He's still not better than Jordan.
Karl Malone was stronger than Lebron. I think Barkley in his prime would have given him a hard time too.
FACTS
@@cano21 How can you measure lebron's strength in this era? By his muscles? By his look at me workout videos? There's no big men to give him a little second thought when waltzing into the lane. He handles the ball so much that most likely he'll find some smaller match up and take advantage by running said smaller player over to a wide open basket. He doesn't bang for rebounds and he doesn't post up. Yeah he's strong but he doesn't take full advantage of it. Jordan, while having a different body type than James, was known to be very strong especially as he got older. But he used his strength advantage. Finishing over 2, 3, 4 guys in the paint is a sign of being very strong. Getting hammered and still finishing is a sign. Posting up and guards can't move you off your spot is a sign.
Mj is the greatest midrange shooter of all time. Lebron shoots 37% outside of 3 feet. MJ was a better finisher in a league where the paint was congested and full of bigs. Lebron is a great finisher but its not the same for obvious reasons. Jordan was a better defender and had 9 trible doubles in 11 games shooting 50% when he played pg for a few games. He did everythnig and played harder, top 3 all time defender. In todays league his skills would be even more enhanced if he could bring the ball up and have no 1 at the rim
Lebron shot more shots and played more seasons cuz Jordan couldn’t keep up so give Jordan 5 more years on the Wizards and I bet u Lebrons 3 point % is better
@@Femitoodrippy Just let got bro, Lebron was my goat too.
Mj retired from the bulls at 37, lebron is 37 now. I wonder if you're going to want to include LeBrons field goal percentages going forward. Dude, lebron literally shoots 37% from midrange, in his prime, Mj shot over 51%. Just think about that how terrible 37% is compared to 50, its a different league.
When you compare eras you gotta imagine then playing in the same game. Youve seen mjs highlights, the way he manuevers between multiple heads in the paint. IN todays league with no one in there(where lebron makes majority of his buckets) thats money, and hed be a way above 3Pt shooter cause why wouldnt he be? He would actually practice it. Hes the greatest mid range shooter in history. Shot over 40% as a injury riddle shell of himself on the wizards, still better then lebrons prime numbers. Also, lebron is below average 3Pt shooter in a era where its a big part of the game, where jordan was average when it wasnt, he shot like 1 a game.
League is soft, they literally changed the rules to add more offense. Harden averaged 37, jordan would average more and be the best defender on floor. And more rebounds and assists because of the way the game is played now
@@szaret1 big facts💯
He can't say MJs the goat because he'd be outta business. No more video's. Deep down he knows MJ is better than lebron, or he doesn't like greatness. So he strings this sh*t out like a soap opera
For the record as well excluding the 1986 season where he broke his bone, Jordan only missed 7 games during a 12 year stint with the Bulls. Outside of Stockton, he was one of the healthiest players ever to be in the NBA.
39 year old Jordan played 82 games on wizards too. Lebaby has played 80+ games one time in his 19 years
@@nathanlawson313 💯!!
Full 82 game seasons
Jordan-9 🐐✅
Lebron-1
MJ 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
The truth will set you free
here's something to ponder...MJ played ALL 82 games 9 times (1x at age 39/40 with the Wizards) in a physically tough era....LeBron played all 82 games 1 time in almost 20 years in a less physically demanding era and played 80 + games 2x...no need to spend that kind of money if you don't need to unless your injury prone....if you've seen Jordan's Best Rare Video (Voyager) video on youtube, you'll see a small sample of what kind of physical punishment MJ endured back in the day...that's why he HAD to put on more muscle mass to withstand the physical beating he was dealing with in the Eastern Conference (he said so in multiple interviews)....Once he got to the top of the mountain, he never lost his competitive drive to stay on top....great reaction video! 🔥💪✌
Funny how Lebron fans never bring up how he got busted taking PEDS when he played for the Miami Heat.