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@@m4djoker890 I didn't know the two-handed dodge was so good if you time it right. I've seen people do the Z backstep move but never understood exactly why until now.
@@m4djoker890 dont think so) always thought of the 1h vs 2h debate to be weird in the first place, like people, you do know that the game is not that hard to minmax the crap out of it, right? :D
It's exactly as you say. Especially the mindset and culture thing. I suspect the Gothic community is fairly old. I started with Gothic I as a 14 yo in 2001. Since the first you grab are 1-handed weapons you grow accustomed to the pretty fast. Then there is this later game upgrade, when you can upgrade to 1,5 handed bastard swords which killed Bidenhänder for me, for years. I played 2-handed for the first time in Gothic II, years later, as I became a bandit in the 2 or third playthrough - because they have these cool looking axes - this later game functionality game for the 2-handers REALLY bite into enemies. Now I am here over 20 years later, with a poor memory and I stopped gaming a long time ago, but there is nothing I wish more to do than to play a 2-handed Paladin now. Great Video, great memory! Thanks.
Fun fact is that when you get 64 str in g2notr you can stop giving points on str (it cost 3lp per 1 str) and give all your learning points on alchemy and ancient language (51lp) then use all bonuses from game which makes you reach 160 str in total. In that case you can fight using Dragon Slicer (190 dmg, 160str need) and you have 350 dmg per hit in chapter 2 before even entering Valley of Mine. You just becomes monster which can beat all dragons. Enjoy and gretting from Poland
Those are some great maths! In case you feel like it, it would be cool to have a breakdown about it. I am planning to try the melee only no hit run, which has been done only by a german streamer named Karstix. Thing is, he went for any % so he used bugs and glitches in a non extensive way. I want to do it in an "ethical" way so no bugs no glitches.. I know it sounds wierd when you talk about gothic but it is what it is
Finding English channel about Gothic in 2025 feels like finding Egyptian tablet that predicts Tesla cars. I'd love to see some mod/challenge runs in a future. Or maybe first Risen to see how it compares. Also: 2-handers for style points as end-game swords look cool on Paladin/Dragon Hunter armors.
Nice video! I will always go 2H on a stength based run. For the simple reasons, that both as a dex and mage char, I'll usually have a 1H as a secondary already, and also because they look way cooler. 2H is arguably definitely weaker than 1H (way faster, and pretty much almost the same damage on hit), but they are IMO also way more fun. Combat is much more tactical. The main way I like to do damage to enemies with a 2H (besides when they strafe) is by punishing their hits. I wait for exactly the time after their hit, and hit back as fast as possible after blocking. This guarantees most hits, since 2H otherwise often struggle with being slow enough for the enemy to easily block. It's especially effective against Skeleton Warrios with two handers, as they usually have the same reach as you do, and are proficient blockers.
@@Maettzle i didnt mention It but yes, generally fighting enemies with 2handers Is easier because of you have good reflexes, you can even interrupt their combo by blocking their First Attack and strike before they start the second One!
As a kid, I always thought as follows - two hander is to look cool, one-hander is to take care of business. But after playing it 10 times over the years using either magic or one-hander, perhaps when I will play through the trilogy I might try two-hander instead... It never felt right to me because everyone always remarked how skinny the hero is, so I associated him with speed/technique rather than strength... which is silly considering I'd reach 200-300STR. Lovely video, learned some things I didn't know. Happy new year!
Great i'm Happy It was usefull to you! About the skinny Hero that Is true but i think k that armors help with that, since the Better they get the thicker you look!
While I absolutely agree that G2 100% has the better gameplay, I'd still advise to play the first game first. The atmosphere and the whole premise is way more unique than the second one imo and it certainly feels more rewarding if you actually know all those characters instead of standing there like a dork who doesn’t remember his friends Other than that I never thought that two handed was particularly weak. When I started out I always used 2-handed because of the safety the reach promises. But I always felt rather stationary, I had no idea that you could shorten the dodge like that, that’s pretty amazing!
Funny thing - I never engaged with the broad Gothic community, but in the narrow bubble I've been since I was a kid, everybody always said 2h weapons are king :)
@@uriziel38 looking foward to archolos 2.0 aswell! I can give you some extra information about It: in 2.0, two hander will be buffed with these things: 1) minimal damage Is now 10, 1h still 5. 2) there Is a chance to make the enemy fall on their back, which can be improved with jewelery. 3) 2h Just like now have armor penetration
@@nicoledreamcr4666 can't wait for archolos 2.0, where i learned from the devs that 2h Will have even more benefits! I wrote It in some other comments here if you are interested
Awesome video! I'm finishing my first Gothic 1 playthrough where I went 2h, despite all advise I've read about 1h superiority. But I wanted to have fun and to do it the way I wanted. Don't regret a bit, but I know Gothic 1 is a lot easier. Can tell just by watching your video. I'll go with two-handers in G2 too. Thanks for your video!
Long time gothic fan and player. Always played with 1h in warrior-style playthroughs. But, when g2 was released on Switch, played as 2h paladin. In my opinion, yes, 2h is strong and even feels better for clearing animals - long range and attacking them when tbeir attack animation starts is way to faceroll win. I could even sometimes don't even look at screen and just attack based n sound and it worked flawlessly. Also, not bad for human / orcs enemies (even though 1h still feels better imo). But, I would say that Claw of Beliar kills it. Both versions are just too strong compare to another melee weapons and 1h is way better then 2h version. So, IMHO, 2h weapons are actually weapons to steamroll early(middle-late part)-mid part of game. In latest chapters, even though you feel OP anyway, 1h feels? better
Personally I love the "cool factor" of using the 2handers. Even if 1h Is superior over all cus of faster strikes and easier Dodge, the 2h feel much more like a Hero weapon of you know what i mean
Dark Messiah, Gothic... I'm surprised it took the algorithm this long to recommend me this channel. If you haven't played it, you should try Arx Fatalis as well.
I never heard that many or tbh one said that 2hand is bad/shitty its just a thing of prefference like Range >/< Speed etc... but granted >50% are probably 1hand users but every mod that is bigger has a 1 and 2 hand trainer, faction, weapons etc so its evidently that its not just like 20% that use 2 hand xD
Good point. I think that these are core aspects of the game. I dont think a lot of % use crossbows, yet they are also in every mod just like swimming diving and idk the woodland berry which has mostly no use what so ever. If you ask me, those are core aspects of the game so it would feel wierd to not have them, even if majority will go with the most popular paths. Interesting point of discussion anyway ^_^
Ah yes. Dark Messiah has staves. They are not good. I played through the entire game with a staff. It deals very little damage even though it can hit multiple enemies. Maybe I should've played this game on Normal difficulty. Half-Lives generally have terrible difficulty settings. I assume the video ended at the preview image. I did not watch the rest of it.
2h weaponds looks cool in gothic 2 , but 1h are simple too good , alsow alsow stats on thous weponds are horrble. Early game 2h staffs are good but mid game 2h are horrible bad and late game 2h are simple overkill , 1h are simple toog good and got to few weaknesses, but 2h looks cooler
Yes I totally agree, originalkly 2h weren't balanced enough compared to 1h thowards the game, hence the need to somehow deeply know the game mechanics so to be able to enjoy also the 2h playstyle.
@@Gi-Go-dst well im starting from the premise that people Who would Watch this already know the downsides.. its more of a tutorial about how to get Better rather than a full review!
If you could choose, it would be:
1) More Gothic tutorials
2) Gothic mods reviews
If you have a preference, let me know on Twitch or here!
Here is the Twitch Stream channel link: www.twitch.tv/m4djoker
As someone from Poland and Polish Gothic community I do you the honor of granting you a decoration of Virtuti Cebulari for this video
@@Beardie_boy idk what that Is, but i accept with great Honor! (What did i Just accept, chat?)
Great honor
something like this:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtuti_Militari
@@Beardie_boy oh ok I just got Stanislaus II Augustus blessing without shooting a bullet. If that isn't skills, idk what is xD
Quality video with tips and info I didn't even know after 20 years.
Thanks man much appreciated! Anyone in particular which surprised you?
@@m4djoker890 The 'Zorro move' and the stuff about i-frames on the dodge were all news to me.
@@m4djoker890 I didn't know the two-handed dodge was so good if you time it right. I've seen people do the Z backstep move but never understood exactly why until now.
always liked using 2handers, finaly another man of culture :D
Do you think i missed something?
@@m4djoker890 dont think so)
always thought of the 1h vs 2h debate to be weird in the first place, like people, you do know that the game is not that hard to minmax the crap out of it, right? :D
@@neror9499so many around dismiss 2h as Plain bad t'ho, i felt like needing to do them some justice
It's exactly as you say. Especially the mindset and culture thing. I suspect the Gothic community is fairly old.
I started with Gothic I as a 14 yo in 2001. Since the first you grab are 1-handed weapons you grow accustomed to the pretty fast. Then there is this later game upgrade, when you can upgrade to 1,5 handed bastard swords which killed Bidenhänder for me, for years.
I played 2-handed for the first time in Gothic II, years later, as I became a bandit in the 2 or third playthrough - because they have these cool looking axes - this later game functionality game for the 2-handers REALLY bite into enemies.
Now I am here over 20 years later, with a poor memory and I stopped gaming a long time ago, but there is nothing I wish more to do than to play a 2-handed Paladin now.
Great Video, great memory! Thanks.
@@LegendOfTheOld Happy to help!
one handed dexterity sword and bow always !
UNBELIVER!
Amazing video as always always was 2 hander finally some positive comments love it keep it up
@@Adrianwoj cocoooo!
That's some freaking high level content for such an old gem. Well said.
Seeing that people likes the video really fills me with joy
Fun fact is that when you get 64 str in g2notr you can stop giving points on str (it cost 3lp per 1 str) and give all your learning points on alchemy and ancient language (51lp) then use all bonuses from game which makes you reach 160 str in total. In that case you can fight using Dragon Slicer (190 dmg, 160str need) and you have 350 dmg per hit in chapter 2 before even entering Valley of Mine. You just becomes monster which can beat all dragons. Enjoy and gretting from Poland
Those are some great maths! In case you feel like it, it would be cool to have a breakdown about it. I am planning to try the melee only no hit run, which has been done only by a german streamer named Karstix. Thing is, he went for any % so he used bugs and glitches in a non extensive way. I want to do it in an "ethical" way so no bugs no glitches.. I know it sounds wierd when you talk about gothic but it is what it is
@@m4djoker890 pretty sure Lord Pappnase has done it now, too
Finding English channel about Gothic in 2025 feels like finding Egyptian tablet that predicts Tesla cars. I'd love to see some mod/challenge runs in a future. Or maybe first Risen to see how it compares.
Also: 2-handers for style points as end-game swords look cool on Paladin/Dragon Hunter armors.
Nice video! I will always go 2H on a stength based run. For the simple reasons, that both as a dex and mage char, I'll usually have a 1H as a secondary already, and also because they look way cooler. 2H is arguably definitely weaker than 1H (way faster, and pretty much almost the same damage on hit), but they are IMO also way more fun. Combat is much more tactical.
The main way I like to do damage to enemies with a 2H (besides when they strafe) is by punishing their hits. I wait for exactly the time after their hit, and hit back as fast as possible after blocking. This guarantees most hits, since 2H otherwise often struggle with being slow enough for the enemy to easily block. It's especially effective against Skeleton Warrios with two handers, as they usually have the same reach as you do, and are proficient blockers.
@@Maettzle lets face It you look so much cooler with the 2handers!
@@m4djoker890 Yup! Forgot to mention that before ;) Made some edits :D
@@Maettzle i didnt mention It but yes, generally fighting enemies with 2handers Is easier because of you have good reflexes, you can even interrupt their combo by blocking their First Attack and strike before they start the second One!
@@m4djoker890 Ah no, I meant I didn't state it in my comment before the edit :)
Yes, 2H is definitely more reflex-based than 1H.
As a kid, I always thought as follows - two hander is to look cool, one-hander is to take care of business. But after playing it 10 times over the years using either magic or one-hander, perhaps when I will play through the trilogy I might try two-hander instead...
It never felt right to me because everyone always remarked how skinny the hero is, so I associated him with speed/technique rather than strength... which is silly considering I'd reach 200-300STR.
Lovely video, learned some things I didn't know. Happy new year!
Great i'm Happy It was usefull to you! About the skinny Hero that Is true but i think k that armors help with that, since the Better they get the thicker you look!
While I absolutely agree that G2 100% has the better gameplay, I'd still advise to play the first game first. The atmosphere and the whole premise is way more unique than the second one imo and it certainly feels more rewarding if you actually know all those characters instead of standing there like a dork who doesn’t remember his friends
Other than that I never thought that two handed was particularly weak. When I started out I always used 2-handed because of the safety the reach promises. But I always felt rather stationary, I had no idea that you could shorten the dodge like that, that’s pretty amazing!
@@BlueDragonKnight77 thanks for the comment! Some Say that One should even play archolos BEFORE g1
Wow, I didn't think I was gonna learn something new about this game I finished uncountable times.
@@maltetheg ive also been playing this since ever, and i keep finding new stuff xd
This is glorious. A 2 handed master guide 😁
I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
Funny thing - I never engaged with the broad Gothic community, but in the narrow bubble I've been since I was a kid, everybody always said 2h weapons are king :)
hmm now thats some unexpected perspective, cool!
they also have better armor penetration allowing you to take on some tough enemies earlier than usual
Yes but thats only on archolos! Sadly g2 didnt have this features, which would have been great tbh
Definitely going to give two-handers another chance next time I'm going to play G1 or 2 (CoM 2.0 can't come out soon enough), thanks for the tips!
@@uriziel38 looking foward to archolos 2.0 aswell! I can give you some extra information about It: in 2.0, two hander will be buffed with these things:
1) minimal damage Is now 10, 1h still 5.
2) there Is a chance to make the enemy fall on their back, which can be improved with jewelery.
3) 2h Just like now have armor penetration
@m4djoker890 Ooh, that sounds great, I'm looking forward to it even more now.
Great this game is still alive. I've always preferred 2H, in both G2 AND Archolos which is must play and even better than G2
@@nicoledreamcr4666 can't wait for archolos 2.0, where i learned from the devs that 2h Will have even more benefits! I wrote It in some other comments here if you are interested
Awesome video!
I'm finishing my first Gothic 1 playthrough where I went 2h, despite all advise I've read about 1h superiority. But I wanted to have fun and to do it the way I wanted. Don't regret a bit, but I know Gothic 1 is a lot easier. Can tell just by watching your video.
I'll go with two-handers in G2 too. Thanks for your video!
@@rodrigovlopes thanks dude much appreciated! I Hope that this Will make your journey easier
Long time gothic fan and player.
Always played with 1h in warrior-style playthroughs. But, when g2 was released on Switch, played as 2h paladin.
In my opinion, yes, 2h is strong and even feels better for clearing animals - long range and attacking them when tbeir attack animation starts is way to faceroll win. I could even sometimes don't even look at screen and just attack based n sound and it worked flawlessly. Also, not bad for human / orcs enemies (even though 1h still feels better imo).
But, I would say that Claw of Beliar kills it. Both versions are just too strong compare to another melee weapons and 1h is way better then 2h version. So, IMHO, 2h weapons are actually weapons to steamroll early(middle-late part)-mid part of game. In latest chapters, even though you feel OP anyway, 1h feels? better
Personally I love the "cool factor" of using the 2handers. Even if 1h Is superior over all cus of faster strikes and easier Dodge, the 2h feel much more like a Hero weapon of you know what i mean
Dark Messiah, Gothic... I'm surprised it took the algorithm this long to recommend me this channel. If you haven't played it, you should try Arx Fatalis as well.
@@Kaedevirus i did!! (Never finished tho ahah, got lost in some underground labyrinth)
The only thing I don't like in 2handed weapons is that when you hit warrior in them your animations doesn't change like with the onehanded weapons.
Yes it does! Changing forom the starting 10% up to 30% unlocks a new animation for two handed weapons aswell!
i always used 2 handers and knew that if you your character learn how to wield them they are OP
@@panzaraza77 very underestimeted combat style imo.
The molerat at the end 😂😂
Yeah I didn't want to just end it like that.. Idk how that thing came to my mind xD
Molerat ptsd?
I never heard that many or tbh one said that 2hand is bad/shitty
its just a thing of prefference like
Range >/< Speed
etc...
but granted >50% are probably 1hand users
but every mod that is bigger has a 1 and 2 hand trainer, faction, weapons etc so its evidently that its not just like 20% that use 2 hand xD
Good point. I think that these are core aspects of the game. I dont think a lot of % use crossbows, yet they are also in every mod just like swimming diving and idk the woodland berry which has mostly no use what so ever.
If you ask me, those are core aspects of the game so it would feel wierd to not have them, even if majority will go with the most popular paths.
Interesting point of discussion anyway ^_^
I will never betray my one handed claw for anything!
@@ASHFAR578 It does come in 2h version tho 🥳
@@m4djoker890 even spell version xd. still my weaponfu it remains
5:17 XD
#2HandedGang 🤙
bigger is better💪 the biggest is the bestest
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Ah yes. Dark Messiah has staves. They are not good. I played through the entire game with a staff. It deals very little damage even though it can hit multiple enemies.
Maybe I should've played this game on Normal difficulty.
Half-Lives generally have terrible difficulty settings.
I assume the video ended at the preview image. I did not watch the rest of it.
2h weaponds looks cool in gothic 2 , but 1h are simple too good , alsow alsow stats on thous weponds are horrble. Early game 2h staffs are good but mid game 2h are horrible bad and late game 2h are simple overkill , 1h are simple toog good and got to few weaknesses, but 2h looks cooler
Yes I totally agree, originalkly 2h weren't balanced enough compared to 1h thowards the game, hence the need to somehow deeply know the game mechanics so to be able to enjoy also the 2h playstyle.
Great video! But you are suragcoating them a lot and it would be fair to explain all the reasons why they suck too.
@@Gi-Go-dst well im starting from the premise that people Who would Watch this already know the downsides.. its more of a tutorial about how to get Better rather than a full review!
monkaS now thats some high quality jokerino content 😁
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@@rkollege8379 heyyyy! Thanks, these videos sure take a lot of time to be made lol