FIREFLY Kit Explanation! Best Super Breaker? Pre Analysis | Honkai Star Rail
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2024
- Back again with Honkai star rail video because i dont want to miss out our first limited Fire Destruction character’s kit explanation! Everyone’s Hyping about Firefly because of how Broken she is, but also not a few player felt that she still missing some potentials and thus need more positive changes! How good is she? watch the video until the end to find out about her kit explanation. make sure to leave a thumbs up if you like this video and subscribe as well!^^
Timestamps
00:00 intro
00:41 Skill
01:33 Ultimate
02:31 Talent
03:17 Technique
03:41 Traces
05:02 Eidolons
05:51 Best Eidolon ?
06:37 Possible to reach 360 Break effect ?
07:41 How much DMG can she deals?
08:39 Is she a good Super breaker ?
10:17 Pros & Cons
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‼Firefly May seem Overpowered BUT only if she paired with Harmony Trailblazer (& RM ofc)! for now, most of her damage comes from Super Break and you might want to play her this way, considering she can have a lot of BE, SPD and a quite high Toughness reducing DMG abilities. otherwise, i dont think she will be OP now. Whats YOUR opinion about her kit rn?
It's beta v1, she can be changed. But she's already a solid character. Of course she isn't OP, you all expect damage like Acheron's after she came out...
she is a bit underwhelming. cool kit, just the pay off is not great. would be neat if there is another reason aside from the trace that ignores def, to build BE higher then 200%.
Kit’s not the best, but it’ll be fun to play and build for sure
"She needs hmc!"
but hmc is free.
@@4g3nt06 the point is that she isnt flexible. she require another character to be relevant.
Okay I just now realized this. She is a breaker. She broke our hearts
And our wallets
we broke her wallet and she breaks ours in return
Her only issue is that she isn’t new player friendly atm, she’ll be able to deal great damage at the beginning of the game, but once you kinda get to the Xianzhou/Early Penacony section she’ll struggle a little, once Harmony MC gets unlocked then she can show her true potential.
Though they should be careful when they design characters in this fashion, Firefly is lucky because HMC is free, but designing a character based off of a support’s kit isn’t a good idea, especially if that support is limited.
I kind of agree and disagree at the same time. Although yes it is true that her best teammates are locked behind gacha and story (ruan mei and htb, but I’d argue htb is more future proof for her), it doesn’t mean she becomes instantly bad. For example, Asta is one of the first characters you get for free, and she has very good synergy with firefly. And you don’t need to have meta team to beat through story mode, and so as long as you don’t get distracted off course, it shouldn’t take a player more than 2 or 3 weeks to unlock htb from start (depends on how much they read story dialogues), and Gallagher her best sustain can also be obtained for free through events
I'd argue that all main story content can be beaten by pretty much any non-meta team. You may struggle a bit, sure. But they're certainly passable. People need to realize that you don't need to follow meta trend to enjoy the game. In fact, ever since I get Acheron and her team set up. The game becomes a lot more boring. Chucking 200k+ damage in every fight doesn't make the game fun, apparently.
@@Thaibiohazard123 I experienced how much Acheron carried me for myself since on my main account with Acheron I easily blitz through the enemies, but on my newer alt account where I decided to not pull for Acheron, I struggled on most of the boss fights which I didn’t really experience on my main. But in the end, although I did struggle, I still was able to beat story mode there using only f2p units except for two but my team had minimal effort (robin ratio from mail aventurine and harmony trailblazer), but most people should have teams comparable if not better than that by the time they reach the final boss of 2.2
@@JustJasonDoingJason Yeah, I am one of the low spenders. I don't much care for meta, I pull for who I want. And for the first 2 arcs of the game, I ran with mostly f2p characters. The only boss I truly struggled with was that f*cking insect from Ruan Mei's quest. Acheron is my first hypercarry. And as of now, I have zero 5 stars sustain and still doing fine.
3 weeks in and i am already at Penacony 20-25%? of that Story Arc ( The part wherein Black Swans interacts with the Astral Express Crew )
I think i'm glad i pulled for Jingliu tho. I could have saved for Firefly alot if it weren't for her and also built Dr Ratio.
I still have PTSD from trying to get 180% break effect when I first got Ruan Mei but I forced myself to do it because Ruan Mei buffs the whole team and given how much I use her, I could justify the sheer amount of resources spent (or rather, wasted, given how many relics had to be dumped).
I think it will be harder for me to justify doing the same for Firefly if all it achieves is higher DPS numbers. As I always like to say, a DPS number is just a number waiting to be powercrept. Yes there is a DEF ignore tied to the break effect, but it only benefits Firefly. It's not like Resolution Shines lightcone or Pela where the DEF ignore benefits the whole team's DPS.
180% isn’t even that hard. Mine is at 298% with 145 spd. There’s also S5 4* LC that gives the same BE as her LC
It's hard on Ruan Mei because she uses err rope and not break rope. It will still be difficult to get all that break on FF but she also gets tons from her passive, 60%, and 40% iirc from her new planar set.
She's half a character without super break. New players might have a harder time using her in the early to mid stages of the game.
Edit: You can now get HMC after completing the Belobog story in a future patch. I guess they realized that problem (Story wise it doesn't make sense. Aren't we supposed to get these powers after an Aeon gazed upon us? Why did Xipe gaze on us during the events on Belobog?
Probably not even worth as new players would struggle. Better off going for another dps who can be put into more flexible teams without much cost.
@@j.c9907 Boothill might actually be better for new players since he can get free crit stats and deal great damage with a 3 star lightcone
@@iloverobinfromarknightsBoothill unironically doesn’t even need the crit that much anyway, since he already has a Super Break esque mecha. Firefly would have really benefited from an ability like that since she doesn’t have Super Break
Is it true? You can get HMC after completing belobogs story? And where?
I mean tbf it's early game. You're not going to struggle unless you force yourself to do 4 dps no sustain
Well, I were gonna take her, but that forkin' cowboy said "Not when I am here."
I love this idea that Firefly is hard to play with no sustain. Not because she’s super squishy, but because Gallagher buffs her DMG% out more than Bronya/Asta/Robin as the fourth slot.
he doesn't.
You do want to use SPD Boots on her, so that you hit 180 SPD when she Ults - that will give her three attacks before it ends.
180 speed while in ult and not in her base speed right? Cuz I feel like 180 is too hard without the 50 or 60 speed buff from her ult
@@JustJasonDoingJason yes with ult. Getting 180 speed while balancing break effect and attack would be impossible without the buff
Update V3: just go full BE + ATK. She still need HTB though
nothing change in v2 only some wording change
@@srajo7211 damn... then V3 hopefully
@@yafito2 V3 WILL BE THE KING DAY.
I AM SEVERELY COPING because I'm fine with her liking HTB in the party, what I'm not fine is that they're glued together otherwise you're forced to go a hybrid build that is subpar on FF
@@cinder3la999 tbh, I only dislike her DMG celling for growth being so low
i like sam so im gonna pull even tho im sad that sam is not his own char
she might only do great dmg with htb but i dont see it as a con relly since its not an limited 5 star
Thank you people seem not to get that
I wish firefly was her own character. I’m not into Sam
Totally agree with you, they should've been separate characters
@@frenchrevenge6406 well they're not are they now
@@UltimateGenosyko then don't pull
There is the misha 4 star cone at r5 its like 56 break and 30 cr after ult it's a solid option
This LC is a nice option too but i think you need to gacha to obtain that
She almost need her E1 to work well, now i'm curious, i don't know if i let it slip during the vídeo.
So she gains 50 speed during ult, if she gets 134 speed + 50 from ult and 50 from Asta ult, at 234 speed how many turns she will get?
Honestly idk about the meta behind Firefly. I see big mecha suit transform with green wings I save. I've got the guarantee from Gepard screwing me over in Robin's banner (Gepard is apparently always there whenever my 50/50's fail me so far) and I'm about 30 to pity.
Same here i have an e3 gepard collecting dust. Currently at 50 pity and grinding jade and praying i win my 50 50. Lost my last 2 and had to burn all my jade for queen jing liu but i love her and lost on her banner last time so she was a must for me this time i even skipped acheron who i plan to get on her rerun probably around chriatmas lol
Same situation but I lost 50/50 to my first yanqing, granted I've started playing 6 months after launch so it makes sense I don't have all standard banner 5 stars but my e3 bailu is could have always been a welt instead😢
Brother we are the same although its yanqing
same, lost to clara on robin banner. i dont even use fua team that much anyway and clara is pretty cracked for pure fiction but at least i have guaranteed for firefly now :cope:
Haha same here with gepard. It doesn’t help that his eidolons are absolute ass too for a tank. Like who the hell needs a revive as a tank when the rest of your team would be dead before he even needs to use it?
9:35 I'm not 100% sure but I think the enhanced skill does only 90 toughness WITH the ult bonus (60 regular * 1.5), meaning with Ruan Mei you would deal 120 toughness, or 4 units
I heard fire fly is a break effect dependent so I'm thinking of pulling her over robin and Jade cause I already have lots of harmony and erudition and I think it will be fun playing her with the new MC and ruan Mei
Dps canot without hmc 😅😫
It sounds really good but everyone seems to be thinking its not good w/o Ruan Mei + MC can we see a lowball of her capabilities i.e. without HMC or Ruan Mei and 4* lightcone?
so can she use her ultimate when she get stun to dispel the stun?
I already have a built relic for her.
After all in built calcs,
I have her already at 250% BE and 100/68 CD/CR which is already a huge boost of damage personally and super break wise.
Not counting Harmony MC and other Buffs, i expect my build to do very high damage.
Im excited for her release
A new set is coming up.. exceptionally for her which increases both DMG and BE
E1 is actually kinda stupid, they should have give the no consume SP to a trace or talent as Jingliu because that would be too high SP consume
Kinda agree
The thing is, firefly's enhanced E has like atleast 2x to 3x the damage of Jingliu's E
I am pulling for her, but i would like to ask for opinions in this team i have prepared for her.
Sustainer- Gallagher
Main dps- Firefly
Support 1- Asta
Support 2- Harmony Trailblazer
gallagher and hmc is bis for any break team, Asta is really good because extra speed means more turns for ff and sp positive which helps because hmc is sp negative
She only needs ~19 BE subs for her to be at 360% break in you're scenario, then if people want they can build literally anything else. People are obsessed with crit so let them build crit. So much doom posting even though this a beta kit 1 month out from her release and we saw how much other character's kits got tweaked in that time Ex: Acheron, Boothill, Aventurine, Robin, DHIL, even Kafka got a ton of changes one month before her release.
I've seen some gameplay of her. She's basically heavily reliant on BE rather than Crit. You can build crit, but somehow build 350% will give her more damage. Ooh, don't forget that you must put her with character that gives super break damage.
Which is just 2 for now: HMC and Ruan Mei. So, she's basically like Imbibitor Lunar when he's first came out. Kinda good, but not good enough without sparkle.
@@Far-Reezruan mei DONT give super break, only hmc does, huan mei, however, does boost break and super break damage a lot
@@Far-ReezI disagree because 360% break effect isn’t that hard to get with a htb with around 200+ break effect and just getting break effect substats on firefly, which is her most important btw (crit is not viable since it doesn’t help her at all since superbreak cant crit). Also firefly’s best teammate are all f2p and doesn’t need to come from gacha, except for ruan mei, but I would argue that Asta is just slightly worse than ruan mei with firefly since she has perfect synergy with firefly and the team as well if you give her a break build
@@Far-Reezyeah HMC is a must for her and idk why anyone would run her with them. It's like running Hyper carry without Sparkle/Bronya or DoT without Kafka it just doesn't make sense
@@just4universe219except dot without Kafka is completely viable and fine, shit comparison.
can you make a build guide for her cos I checked her kit and she gets NO crit stats at all from her traces, no f2p lc give any crit and she wants 360 brake and high attack this is borderline unachievable
I will make her build video along with her V2-v3 changes later
over rated? she isn't even released yet
beta is get a life
@@user-vj4cu6sb7mbe nice
@@user-vj4cu6sb7mtelling someone to get a life wtf are u 12 lmao
@@user-vj4cu6sb7mbe nice
@@user-vj4cu6sb7mchill out bro
10:13 THE AMOUNT OF SYNERGY 🙀 THEY WILL HAVE WITH EACH OTHER IS INSANE!!🤩
AT THIS POINT THEY LITERALLY MADE FOR EACH OTHER 😍🥰
MC X FIREFLY WIN'S AGAIN!!😎
H mc is gf/bf mode! a true backup dancer.
Make fruadfly great again and buff her! Right now she doesn't even do half the damage of my Acheron.
Maybe they will make huge changes in V2-V3 idk
me personally, i think the 30% def ignore is more than enough. theres no need to brick your relics for that extra 10% def ignore when u can build more crit with that 22 other substat rolls to make up for it. unless you are aiming for her light cone, 360% BE is too many wasted stats and even if you do have it, why not build crit to further boost her instead?
So mandatory pairing with HBC and Ruan Mei? Basically her entire kit is made to be used as the perfect Super Breaker unit and will not perform well in Crit base teams due to her scaling.
I guess fine cause HTB themselves is niche, atleast I already have a team ready for her.
Any artifact suggestions that can be used on her?
Literally 400 percent Scaling on the Skill and that's before getting any from BE. And even for break effect she gets free 60 BE on just having 3400 attack.
Isn't she coming out with her own set? At least I believe that's the case for orb and rope. You can farm BE relics if you have spare energy.
i think she needs super break to deal damage after the break. without it her damage gets lowered. . boothill can maintain big damage after the break since he can proc break on broken enemy. . for me boothill is a better break unit dps.
Agree. So its safe to assume that firefly team comp rn is really limited (ruan & HTB). I hope devs can make good changes for her
dang my brain cells trying to catch up on the computation my brain cant handle math man
I'm with those who are unsatisfied with her current v1 kit. Forget great damage only with HMC, she is just a toughness bar breaker without HMC.
Nice analysis overall!
They should change her stupidely broken E2 to something like "Grant herself a 50% super break effect. SBE only can occur once per attack and apply the highest ratio" so she could be playable without HMC but would shine with him at her side
"Henshin!"
\SET THE SEA ABLAZE! CHANGE FIREFLY!/
/BURNING TILL YOU TURN INTO ASH/
Firefly is literally break Jingliu, especially at e1.
2 turns to reach enhanced state to deal tons of DMG. At e1, she will not use sp in combustion state. She will also 100% advance upon reaching said state
My hmc and huan mei are already doing ridiculous amounts of damage on their own, now that i know firefly is a breaker dps, i will 100% get her, specially because i lost 50/50 for robin so now firefly is guaranteed
If you already have ruan mei & a well build HMC i guess your firefly team comp is complete
@@Catboloni got both of them around 200 BE, i cant wait to get e4 and 5 so they will be even more broken. Was playing daniel with ruan mei, sparkle and huo. Traded sparkle for HMC and he actually dealt MORE DAMAGE then with sparkle. Of course it is not that viable because the damage for him will not be consistent with this team, but it was really fun
so between boothill vs firefly who’s the best and better breaker ?!
Boothill
Boothill can trigger his own break effect and isn't locked to playing with a specific character unlike firefly who NEEDS harmony trailblazer to do numbers befitting of a destruction character.
boothill for his versetillity. he can stand on his own unlike firefly requiring hmc. his talent lets you deal extra damage after attacking used enhanced attack scaling on his break effect.
She is still a month away, she might get the Acheron treatment before she release
@@VitorSantos-jh9vcNah bro Cosmo cowboy easily win
Is too early to judge, next week she might get a buff that makes her the best dps in the game, it happen to Acheron, might happen to her
Acheron is a emanator and I think that a reason why she got a buff and firefly is just a stellaron hunter but to be honest I this she is okey now it is true that Firefly need HTB but he is free with eindalons so that is okey
@@mah8012 At least is not the case with DHIL, who basically needs Sparkle, another limited 5 star
@@mah8012 nah they need eatch outhers.
Acherons kit didnt really change during test server. She merely got an overflow stack for her crimson knot which is a nice QoL but barely affected her clear speed. Acheron was always super strong, the doomposters were just flat out wrong from the start.
@@AquilaGuard In paper, that buff was not that Crazy, but it was really huge for her overall value, her kit was already locked behind the Nihility restriction and not having a major alternative for her light cone, but having the 5 initial stacks of her ult lock behind her E1 was a major blow for free to play players, i will say, if she have not being buff, Jing Liu would be 100% more valueble for free to play players
Love how HMC is her must have, canon
Ruan Mei is also her must have. I'm in shambles, but she's Arlan tier without her 💀
Someone in Reddit made her BIS team but with Asta replacing RM... They cleared MOC 12 in 9 cycles.
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Lmao
Skill issues @@arakaki1406
i feel like thats fine icl. Most 5 star dpses are mid without one 5 star support catered for them. For ratio, its one fua support, for seele its bronya or sparkle, etc. Plus it seems like ruan mei is getting her rerun in the same patch or a patch later so we can pull her too if we dont have her@@arakaki1406
I have bad luck pulling for steleron hunter hope she exceptions
Im ready to spend all my money for firefly but she needs to be broken
just hoping there is a buff to let her having a more flexible team i.e. a crit scaling with BE, dmg increase scaling with BE, or having super break of her own because i really want her to be able to be played without hmc.
She can casually drop 140k+ damage skills without much investment at all, she doesn’t need hmc but it’s simply her best support
@@jefferygrandor7852 reason i say she needs hmc because her kit is great at breaking toughness, but no real use of the big BE stats. her big damage is through breaking the toughness bar which which makes her downtime sucks. like, whats the point having more then 100 if her kit didnt really scale with it? xueyi, galagher, and boothill is the perfect example to utilize that big BE stats. by having your damage increased with how much BE you have, increase healing by using BE as a multiplier, or deal extra damage on broken enemy that scales with BE
@@rafi...___ all I heard was nonsense or you just don’t know how her kit works, she scales half on attack half on break effect and gains massive amounts of res pen with higher break effect, and super breaks don’t mean much when most enemies get up fast anyways. Your just trying to act like she’s only usable with hmc to being mad on something
@@jefferygrandor7852defense shred not res pen
Firefly best team is ruan mei and HMC. Ruan mei lets you get a lot of value out of super break damage.
So what if i don't have mei and the firefly lightcone
Maybe u want to pair her with bronya i guess? Because once you break the enemy, they often recover faster (no delay from RM's ULT) and you want to deal super break dmg as much as you can
what i don't like about firefly is she has so many conditions to work well
She will probably be tier 0.5 on Prydwen, which is more than strong enough. Boothill wont be tier 0 either, he might even be tier 1 in several situations like aoe battles. Single target dps is not needed in this game because aoe is generally better and units like Acheron, DHIL and Jinglu still kills the boss easily.
I think Firefly can do it too but her team might be more restricted than other dps. Thankfully, Harmony MC is free and Ruan Mei should rerun in either 2.3 or 2.4, it depends if HoYoverse decides to switch up expected rerun order or not.
Good luck on Firefly pulls everyone :) Saved jades while you can!
If only Boothill hits multiple targets, he would definitely outclass FF. the flexibilty of having crit and/or break build is what FF needs. 😁found this comparison. Boothill clears 1 cycle faster and he was even CCd.
th-cam.com/video/fka0GG6bU50/w-d-xo.html
Would Clara's LC work on her..
Not rlly. Her kit aint rlly about getting hit so it would kinda be a waste
I feel like her role as a playable character in the game is so that players can actually build a 100% break build and get redirected from crit builds since not only does her attack scale off break effect but also because of how she doesn’t have any need for crit. I know boothill and xueyi also does this (mostly xueyi since boothill gain 30% crit rate and 150% crit dmg), but firefly is the first real example where crit is just not viable at all for her. Also saying that her damage is just decent without htb doesn’t seem correct since well again, she is suppose to be fully break effect only, and since htb is free and also must need for any break effect, I wouldn’t see that really as a con, unless somebody else also has a feature similar to him in the future
Saying crit isn't viable without testing yourself is kinda bullshits. None of the vid on yt have actually shown a viable crit build. Ff can reach 360 be in battle without any be substat or be rope with new set and sig. None of the showcases actually build her with crit like that so without testing yourself there's no way to really know.
@@kaseyatakahashi9753 I’m just saying most of her kit revolves around break effect and not using it just seems like a waste. Crit can be used if somebody really wanted to but it’s just a lot of wasted potential, and also just my opinion, another reason that I think they made her scale more on break effect is to encourage people to do so
In every showcase I've seen, Harmony TB is the real dps.
Lmaoo yeah🤣
Yes I am really happy with her kit and for all the greedy people start earning your builds and get lost. I will be the first to get Fire Fly and Sam and I am going to earn my awesome build of Fire Fly and Sam and you will be running in fear when we get a player versus mode because I will show no mercy with a super high powered attack and defense Fire Fly and Sam build. Then I will be finishing up with my awesome adventure with Robin and Sam and Fire Fly good bye community.
Firefly currently is not even close to boothill even with hmc, atleast if her damage was a little less than boot hill it would still be ok but the difference is huge. Boothill does so much damage without hmc amd ruan mei, firefly needs some damage upgrade.
Edit:THIS ONLY MATTERS IF YOU ARE PULLING FOR A STRONG DPS, IF YOU ARE PULLING FOR BEAUTY THEN BEST OF LUCK😅
All I want is Fire Fly no negative comments.
video :=)
Why do I get the feeling that Harmony MC/Ruan Mei/Firefly/Gallagher is about to become the best team in the game?
Ppl im prettty sure he meant overhyped so calm down
what does her a2 even do since her skill applies fire weakness
basically, her skill only apply fire weakness on a single target.
@@rafi...___ but on the side targets it does 55% of 45 thoughness so it does nothing
@@drakkorv8554 its still around 25. most normal attack is 30 so its a decent way to chip their bar
also it reduced enemies toughness bar 𝙍𝙀𝙂𝘼𝙍𝘿𝙇𝙀𝙎𝙎 𝙊𝙁 𝙏𝙃𝙀𝙄𝙍 𝙒𝙀𝘼𝙆𝙉𝙀𝙎𝙎.
When she break weakness of kills enemy, take action again
I'll be completely honest, people worry too much about a game that isn't even hard. Sam is a cool mecha, I'm pulling for that sole reason and I have 0 doubts that it can clear MoC without a problem. No need to be a 0 cycle andie.
Maybe they just disappointed of what firefly capable of because she is the most long waited char since penacony released 😂
Not just overrated, she is too overrated, without Trailblazer harmony, she barely does damage
She isnt overrated, she is underestimated by those Crit loving type of players.
Yeah all we need is some changes by devs
firefly is a must pull for F2Ps
Nah she's not f2p
@@TATACAW69 she is, the fact that her best support is HMC plus you dont need to hunt for crit stat and only need ATK and BE to deal massive amount of damage makes her F2P worthy.
@@al-lizarisgado6392 bruh if you don't have ruan mei then your firefly will hitting like a wet noodle and her being reliant on hmc is fine but it will become boring as she is not flexible in other team comps
Must pull? No character that needs another limited 5 star character is a must pull.
Firefly is overhyped. She needs specific characters like ruan mei and HMC.
Which is really bad if your second team needs Ruan mei like DoT team and that's expecting you already have her.
about HMC, everyone does have her for free, but 90% players don't have HMC build, now you have to build and farm relics for both firefly and HMC, good luck farming relics for months.
And if you are planning to use Gallagher and don't have him build, its even more bad cause you have to build 3 different characters just so a team could work instead of min maxing states on other dps which can be way better investment.
Edit: people comparing acheron needing nihility, kinda needs to realise acheron needs "any" nihility units while firefly needs specific units. It comes down to versatility. Firefly best comparison would be DoT teams in terms of niche, imo.
Not to mention, you can't prefarm for firefly BiS relics
And you this that is a problem ? HTB and Gallagher need only break effect and speed if we talking about relics also building characters in this game is really fast
she could have Arlon kit. and we would still pull the GF experiance. HMC behing needed is part of the kit at this point! XD while all of it behing true, new dps methode and stats you dont need on crit dps! diversity for good relics rolls!
It's the same thing with acheron and a nihility unit. Ratio with silverwolf. Jingyuan with sparkle and tingyun. Argenti with tingyun. But when it's with firefly suddenly it's a problem?
If we talk like this, than why Acheron isn't overhypped. She literally needs characters debuffers/applifiers? Without them she is totally nothing.
Besides, Ruan Mei possibly can be changed with Bronya/Sparkle. What about HMC, I can't see a problem with that. Who tf doesn't have HMC? You guys just try to find a bad things in everything. Place her with Bronya and HMC, and you will see the result. Of course, it won't be as good as Acheron with a good team, but at least it is better, than Jing Yuan or Seele
What phase in version 2.3 is Fire Fly releasing on 1 or 2?
phase 1
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it's feels awkward, if they want to make a full BE character why she have a duble scaling that not help anything on BE and to make this duble scaling work you gonna want a crit stats and yet she dosn't have any trace to help it.
Maybe there will be changes tomorrow
Best Waifu, Second best male, top tier character indeed
Based on the beta tests, it's clear that she requires a significant boost. Her ultimate attack inflicts identical damage at skill levels 1 and 10, even after applying the multiplier, due to her low damage output. Without the Galactic Baseballer, her ability to deal damage is severely limited. Although the HMC is free, which mitigates the issue for most, it's a problem for new players and those who haven't gotten to version 2.2, and she could be a dead summon for an extended period. Additionally, Boothill, a character designed to break opponents, can equal her damage output with an HMC and a new relic set, even while equipped with a 3-star light cone.
Also, consider for someone who doesn't want to use HMC. Like hey, I have favorite characters that I want to put in my team instead of HMC.
izin seblak!
Harmblazer hard carries her kit lol
That 240 energy cost tho...
turn 1 she can ult after using skill, she gain 50% of her max energy per skill (120 energy)
its not that bad, you need one normal skill after first ult to get it back up. E2 gets ult instantly up again
boothill>firefly. firefly is the dehya of hsr. she requires a very specific team comp,heavy investment and requires enemy to be broken to do most of her damage. on the other hand, boothill has a more flexible team comp,low to mid investment makes him good enough and does great damage even without enemy being broken.
Yeah she needs something that let her free from HTB restriction i guess. But she is not dehya level 😭
@@Catboloninilou perhaps
@@user-es7xn2ty6l more like hmc is nilou and firefly is the best trigger
She needs an absurd amount of investment and does not do the damage to reflect that, they need to buff her VERY well because I’m really wanting to hold out for firefly and skip boothill but he just seems like the better option to me right now. Cmon hoyo give us ya magic
She's dogwater right now.
Dogwater? Dog poo. Someone made her BIS team but replacing RM with Asta and they did 9 turns in a MOC which is friendly with FireFly.
I don’t even need firefly, I could just get robin or boothill (whom is very hot) since I already have acheron and her lightcone, however she is very cute and the mecha stays on in bed
also I might be able to save up enough stellar jades for e1 or maybe i’ll lose the 50/50 and get very sad
Im glad she is overrated after the recent hit after hit characters we have got. Means I don’t need to get one outside waifu collecting.
I’ve just plat the game so I’m taking a break from all the constant playing for a few weeks.
Fire fly or boothil
Right now I would say boothill is stronger. Firefly needs a bit more to for me to say she is on his level.
Boothill is by far one of the strongests dps out there as of now, but Firefly still has one entire month ahead. I think she'll get buffed but probably in the end Boothill will still do more damage on bosses (with him being a The Hunt character it makes sense he's stronger in single target). In the end you can beat the game with any dps you want so just pull for whoever you like the most.
Just pick who you like more, most dps units will eventually lose meta in half a year or longer, so by the time they lose meta, you may be disappointed you used ur jades on them. Both firefly and boothill are good in their own ways, and I wouldn’t say one is definitely better than the other. So just all in all, pull for the one you like more
I nothing change, i guess i ll skip her.
Firefly is straight up non-functional at this state. You cant release a main dps where 90% of her damage is not only backloaded, but also entirely dependent on a single viable support.
People bring up Acherons nihility passive but that only proves my point. Acheron can use ANY Nihility unit, past present and future and make her kit work. Pela? Excellent. SilverWolf? Amazing. Black Swan and Kafka? Slaps. Guinifen, Sampo, Luka? Go right ahead. Meanwhile Firefly is locked to a single support for the rest of time. It is the most restrctive character on the planet and is especially egregious when Boothill doesn't face this issue at all. It doesn't matter if HMC is free, its irrelevant to the issue, Firefly shouldn't be shackled to one unit to even do damage, thats a non-functional kit, point blank, no room for discussion. Shes more restricted in team comp than Yanqing! Let that seep in.
But the good news is that shes 100% getting buffed in beta, theres no chance in hell they release a dps worst than Yanqing. An easy fix would simply let her detonate break and super break on her own, you know, like Boothill?
5* Xueyi
Nah xueyi better
Kits are getting more and more complicated with more and more conditions.
Otherwise it gets boring
Why is EVERYONE on this comments so butthurt that she needs hmc as her support? That is LITERALLY every dps in the game, every dps needs some specific support to do the best damage they can do. Daniel needs sparkle, Accheron needs silver wolf or peela, Kafka needs huan mei and black swan. The character that firefly needs the most, unlike all that I mentioned before, is a completely FREE character and all the constrlations are ALSO FREE, what are yall even complaining about?
Daniel does not NEED Sparkle, she just makes him so much easier and better. You can use Hanya if you don’t have Sparkle and sp neutral or positive units like Bronya with higher eidolons along with Luocha allow him to still do crazy damage. Characters that give energy like Tingyun, who is also sp positive, helps him get ultimate so he uses less sp also works. As long as characters are sp positive Daniel can benefit from them. There’s different ways to go about him that receive the same result.
Acheron does not NEED Pela or Silverwolf. They are her most comfortable characters, but as long as you have double nihility or even less at higher eidolons she works just fine. People use Sparkle with her, Guinafen, Welt, Pela, Silver Wolf, Gallagher, and even Preservation characters like Gepard and Fuxuan because the trend light cone gives you a debuff too. She has so many options as well.
Kafka just needs dot. She doesn’t need Ruan Mei, she can use Huo Huo. She can have a Tingyun on her team, she can be with Luka to proc bleed, she can be with future dot characters as well that come out, and she is Swan’s best friend.
Firefly needs a free character, but she literally needs that character and can’t be flexible ever. Also she needs Ruan Mei because without her she’s not breaking fast enough and keeping them broken long enough to do more super break damage. So she’s literally locked into a set team with little to no flexibility. This for a limited 5 star is beyond annoying and her kit is inherently less fun because of it.
Why are you so butthurt over people complaining? She literally has a giant flaw that should be addressed. She alone doesn’t do anything, it’s all Harmony MC. For a 5 star literally requiring another unit to do anything is beyond stupid. She is unusable without them, not just worse like other dps, she just sucks without them.
@@magmaspacer1967 I don't think you really know it But Firefly can play as Traditional Crit Dps because she got Huge multiplier. It's not the best, But if you don't her to lock with HMC. That's the solution.
I think majority of people don't know this too and just straight up doomposting Her. But I don't mad, if she end Up being too Broken Lol
@@forcodingg1287 I don’t think it’s doomposting since these are reasonable concerns. If she can play as a traditional crit dps we would need to see this. I haven’t stumbled upon this footage yet, but yeah I would rather her be broken than suck and be dead on release. We shall see
@@forcodingg1287valid point. But for now I don't like the dev designed firefly tied to HMC. Like they can make things work in boothill without having to reliant on HMC and still good at being breaker dps, so why do ff has to be the one lacking when no MC in team?
In boothill case, boothill act as a dps and his dmg got amplified by HMC
In firefly case, as for now, she's more like an enabler for HMC to deal more dmg overall
@@magmaspacer1967 it IS doomposting because people are crying about a problem that doesn’t exist. “OH NO I HAVE TO USE HMC WITH HER” bro, literally EVERYONE in the game gets her for free with all eidolons. With the character was tied to, lets say, robin. Then id agree with you because then you absolutely need another limited 5* to play her, this is NOT the case
See the problem with firefly currently is that she fills the same attack type as acheron and that's blast attack. So when u compare her damage it just seems weak in comparison. Then throw in the fact boothill is so broken that he is able to outdamage fireflies break damage on three enemies on just a single enemy and it makes here look worse. Shes better than literally every other dps. But because she is coming after these 2 behemoths of dps units FF looks weak in comparison.
And even for those saying she will get buffs, sure lets say she gets them to make her damage better. Acheron is already there and I doubt hoyo will buff her to be stronger than her. And even if she becomes better than boothill, it wont matter because boothill is single target. When you consider the best course of action for your account. Its to get acheron for the blast as she is the best dps for that and boothill because he's the best single target dps by far. Aoe doesn't matter because herta is still broken in pure fiction and ur bound to get himeko at some point and shes good for that too.
If your rolling for meta firefly just isn't it. Focus on boothill for dps now and robin for harmony. Jade idk, id say ignore her for now because aoe content is pretty easy. Now for those who roll for waifu, go ahead, she will be good, just not the meta definer u assumed she would be. Thanks for listening to my ted talk, I hope this offers clarification
PS. If you do plan to get boothill or firefly, ruan mei is a must because she basically the best in slot harmony unit besides harmony mc. LIke trust me, I've seen the with and without, ruan mei's break efficiency is literally a game changer for these break dps.
Good point
Really appreciate your opinion! Thank you very much❤️
@@Catboloni no problem, keep up the good content. This video really does help a lot when giving us details on how FF works
i think 200k dmg is low
Acheron brainrot much
"nyeeeh why is my Break Effect damage not dealing regular damage like non-Break Effect damage focused DPS units"
I swear to everything in creation, these monocellular organisms...
yes she is, not worth the hype
Indeed
I remember people yapping about Acheron and that tshe is overrated before release.
Can't do anything without clickbait LMAO
she is overpowered but her stans just wanna doompost and cry
i love the need of Hmc. true GF experiance. lol
Firefly simps are delusional af
She's not. Like, she's really good with - and only - her BIS team. If you replace Ruan Mei or HMC.. She's poo.
@@arakaki1406 actually u can easily replace Ruan Mei for bronya and potentially get faster clears. Hmc is the only need
@@monbebehere1607 I doubt faster clears, let's be honest.
But you are actually right. Bronya prob usable. It's just that I saw a guy using Asta to replace RM and, my God, it wasn't pretty.
Poorly written