Debra stated it best " What's up with your parents? It's like the 1st time they worn shoes". They are not accustomed to as they say, "Fancy Eaten Places". 🤣
Marie and Frank probably never went out like that to begin with because they were never even in love with each other in the first place. They were just forced into marriage when they conceived Robert by mistake. Legally, they are husband and wife, but in practice, they are just roommates and co-parents.
I don't blame Ray for blowing up at all. Somebody had to say something about the mess that was going on at the table. He just took it too far by insulting his in-laws.
@@anthonyjamesvasquez Yeah, I figured that, that you obviously had seen this in its entirety before. LOL. Your original comment didn't make sense in its context though and what was shown in the clip.
@@loveforeignaccentsAfter this clip, things get a little heated and Lois thinks that maybe going out wasn't such a good idea. Ray finally has enough and says "Of COURSE it's not a good idea!" and proceeds to point out how he and Debra's parents are far too different from each other to get along, which is fair enough. But then he takes it too far by implying that their hobbies are stupid and pretentious, saying things like they "go to some basement in a village to watch a transvestite carve a yam into a monkey".
They've probably never gone out because Marie and Frank were never even in love with each other in the first place. They were just forced into marriage when they conceived Robert by mistake. Legally, they are husband and wife, but in practice, they are just roommates and co-parents.
They said in an earlier scene they don't like going out to fancy restaurants because its to much. They've massively exaggerated the behaviour so its funny. But some people are not comfortable in high end surroundings, they feel its too much pressure.
Favorite moment: "You've got all these kinds of bread, you don't have rye bread. Rye bread is a very common bread. What do you do when Jewish come in here?" Classic Frank!
if the waiter knew what he was doing, he would give menus to the ladies first… 😂😂😂 just for that, i want a 10% discount on that shrimp puff pastry ensemble 😂
What is odd about the television series (and others like it which are considered good) is the collection of contradictions internal to the characters. Marie teaches music and loves opera, learns French sitting alone in her living room and is embarrassed at the presence of her daughter-in-law at one lesson; she does an abstract sculpture, and then behaves so boorishly about cutlery and crockery in a restaurant. It is almost as if the writers forget what we as viewers already know about the characters from earlier episodes when they write later episodes. Could the show runner not remind them? Or is this the muddy thumb print of a studio executive asking for them to be sketched more crudely as boors?
I guess I see all that as Marie just trying to feel superior to those around her. She feels sophisticated listening to opera and learning French and it feeds that complex she has about needing to be better than people like Debra. When she meets people like Debra's parents who far outrank her in the sophistication department, her natural reaction is to balk at it and pretend it's all too much. This is less about her and more about her need to always be at odds with the people she feels threatened by.
Do recall that she is learning French and sculpting during the course of the show. She is trying to better herself which means she’s not there yet. She and Frank have always been cheap people due to their childhoods and we even have an episode where Frank is appalled at Ray’s gift of an aquarium due to the cost. It’s easy to believe they’ve never been to a high-end restaurant due to the cost and Marie’s skill in the kitchen.
Like the one episode, where Robert has the habit of touching his spoon to his chin before he takes a bite, but he had never done that before or since 😂
i think they're so consumed with coming up with the next funny episode that they sometimes lose sight of the larger picture and that results in lapses in consistency etc
The fish-out-water feel of the episode wouldn't work as well if they clammed up and simply observed, like most people would. The writers are certainly playing up the class distinctions here, mining their discomfort in an exaggerated manner for comedic effort that may be a bit too broad. Lower-class folks have their pride, too, whether its warranted or not.
You're right. They behaved poorly, but when you think about it, it was really a level of class that was the issue. Debra grew up in an upper middle-class family. Her parents were workday travelers. Whereas the Barones were more working class and hardly left the house. It's not surprising that there'd be tension.
Been to a place worse than that in NJ. The waiters would stand at attention and wait if a crumb hit the table. He came over and scraped it the table. The other filled your water constantly if it was half empty. Real pains in the ass.
It is disconcerting for a regular guy, but this is the level of service called for by traditional aristocratic attitudes. They want your rapt attention, as if God conferred the right to rule upon their house. Fine dining places like this are a glimpse into history, when demands weren't necessarily practical.
I'm with Frank and Marie on this one. From the unnecessary utensils to the obscene prices. Not to mention the pretentious staff. Ughh, No thanks. Let's go to a steak house.
As a former "dressed up waiter", the server character made some terrible mistakes! The ladies should have been given their bread first, starting with Debra (assuming the kitchen door was upstage right, making her position #2 after Robert), but Marie would have also been acceptable. A party of 7 with two people arriving early, menus would be placed on the table when the Debra's parents were seated, so as not to make the early guests feel awkward or ill-prepared. While being forced to take the extraneous glassware, the server shouldn't have put his fingers inside, but held them by the stem if no tray was available. He should never announce specials with items in his hands. And when Frank asked about rye bread, the answer should not have included the word "no." We would simply tell him what bread was being served. It's a way to re-establish control while still giving the guest the sense that he's not being denied anything.
I always felt that this episode was unrealistic. Yes, Frank and Marie were not people who would spend money on a fancy restaurant. But this doesn't mean they wouldn't understand that such places exist and how to behave in one. Marie married in the 1950's and raised her kids in the 60's and 70's. All the major women's magazines (mostly geared toward housewives- Good Housekeeping, Family Circle,. etc) had many articles about formal dining. Marie would have understood why there were so many forks and glasses for one person.
@@maryk446 the forks things had be mentioned rather than shown to played up for comedic effect, for sure. The fuss was also played up so Marie and Frank were thrown in together in their uncertain sputtering. You do need to be led a bit in fine dining, usually by waiters or veteran of that scene. That they acted like Bronxbillies was par for the course.
Lois and warren still had a better relationship than marie and frank. maybe thats why theyre not liked by them the barones were pretty much modern day cavemen
This is meant to be a light-hearted sharing moment, not necessarily funny, about what it is to travel the world, told to people who don't travel at all. There was a serious misreading of the room here with this lightweight banter. With the right crowd, its a conversation starter.
@@phyliciabozzi9414 they are certainly entitled to the initial benefit of the doubt in terms of being treated with respect, but abuse of this tenet is rapidly deteriorating the notion. Making it corporate policy to the detriment of its workers dignity is turning the working class cynical. Respect HAS to be reciprocated.
"I find them annoying...truely." 😂
$32 a bargain compared to 2024 prices 😂
@@ee-mv3es If you're eating like one of those whales that needs to be craned out of their house, then sure.
I know right, when he said $32 it sounded like they were at Applebee’s. 😂
@@Catlover1974 😂
Seriously, had me so jealous lol
Now you spend that much at McDonald's when you're buying for 2 people.
“HOOOLLLYYY CRAP” 😂😂😂😂😂
Debra stated it best " What's up with your parents? It's like the 1st time they worn shoes". They are not accustomed to as they say, "Fancy Eaten Places". 🤣
Marie and Frank probably never went out like that to begin with because they were never even in love with each other in the first place. They were just forced into marriage when they conceived Robert by mistake. Legally, they are husband and wife, but in practice, they are just roommates and co-parents.
Unless they were brought up in the woods with no outside contact , they should know how to act. They were ridiculous.
@@jeanneamato8278 Downright, bronxbilly snooty.
@@jeanneamato8278 They where just shocked at everything, like a kid seeing a college level math problem.
Snobby Deb. Glad her supersnobbish parents broke up
Imagine Frank and Marie going to a place like this with Estelle and Frank Costanza.
I would pay good money to see that
That made me laugh out loud!
Season 1 all the way! I’m slowly rewatching this show currently! Absolutely love it!
Not bad for a first season of a sitcom, but definitely the worst season of the show imo haha
@@andrewdwyer2456 fair enough then?
I don't blame Ray for blowing up at all. Somebody had to say something about the mess that was going on at the table. He just took it too far by insulting his in-laws.
I must have missed that part, LOL.
@@loveforeignaccentsIt takes place shortly after this clip. They probably left it out to avoid any copyright infractions.
@@anthonyjamesvasquez Yeah, I figured that, that you obviously had seen this in its entirety before. LOL. Your original comment didn't make sense in its context though and what was shown in the clip.
@@loveforeignaccentsAfter this clip, things get a little heated and Lois thinks that maybe going out wasn't such a good idea. Ray finally has enough and says "Of COURSE it's not a good idea!" and proceeds to point out how he and Debra's parents are far too different from each other to get along, which is fair enough. But then he takes it too far by implying that their hobbies are stupid and pretentious, saying things like they "go to some basement in a village to watch a transvestite carve a yam into a monkey".
@@anthonyjamesvasquez Why do you even bother to watch if you know all of this stuff?
I guess they rarely go out. 😅😂
They've probably never gone out because Marie and Frank were never even in love with each other in the first place. They were just forced into marriage when they conceived Robert by mistake. Legally, they are husband and wife, but in practice, they are just roommates and co-parents.
They said in an earlier scene they don't like going out to fancy restaurants because its to much.
They've massively exaggerated the behaviour so its funny. But some people are not comfortable in high end surroundings, they feel its too much pressure.
Marie feels like she is the most skilled cook in existence. She probably has no interest in eating restaurant food.
I feel like Frank and Marie were going out of their way to be difficult.
They need to be the center of the attention.
_"One day you're rescuing a puppy, the next, you're fishing a skull 💀 out of a toilet"._
Debra married so far beneath her station
1:26 “GOOD EVENING”
That's my favourite too! I often think of it when I say Good evening 😅😂 and sometimes say it in his tone!!
Favorite moment: "You've got all these kinds of bread, you don't have rye bread. Rye bread is a very common bread. What do you do when Jewish come in here?" Classic Frank!
lol $32....that's fast food in 2024
last time I paid for 'fast food' it was a little over 10 bucks and that was last week...
2 double cheeseburgers with hand-cut fries and a drink is $17
@@solitaryman777 Depends on where
What did you order? A single hamburger and a kid's fry? lol
Apparently “Barone” is Italian for “Clampett”.
😂 Very funny!
Bahahaha!
Well done!!!
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Robert is such a baby. Everything spooks him
And he's a cop lol. Imaging being a cop that's freaked out by everything. Usually stuff stops fazing them because they've seen everything.
Pulled their assess out of 2 world wars and what did they gives us?-a disgusting way to kiss- Frank Barrone
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Frank and Marie being that way is what made the show. And Robert being jealous of Raymond
To Frank and Marie 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
We knew all along they were wild animals. This episode just put it out there. 😂😂
They made them look like this was the first time they left the village.
This is up there with my favourite ELR scenes :)
Debra looked hot
😂😂😂love them ❤
I was so annoyed with Frank and Marie in this scene.
I felt the opposite
Me too... It was annoying...
Too rich and fancy for my blood lol 😂
My parents are Frank and Marie Barone. They act just like that at a IHop.
What’s the beginning song and what episode is this
Bach - String Quintet in E Major, Opus 13, Minuet
@@lepetitenellie Isn't it the Boccherini's minuet?
You can’t take Frank or Marie anywhere. Talk about embarrassing.
What episode is this
In-laws. It was the first appearance of Debra’s parents
Can you even imagine a singer with that family.
As a restaurant worker frank and marie are typical restaurant customers lol
Fresh 🍞 Bread, oh Boy.
if the waiter knew what he was doing, he would give menus to the ladies first… 😂😂😂 just for that, i want a 10% discount on that shrimp puff pastry ensemble 😂
There is a big difference between Middle & Upper Middle Class! I went to many of these places, as a boy.
The Barons were simply rude, full stop.
i'd be so humiliated
Frank was right about the French!
$32 seems cheap in 2024
I share frank's feelings towards the French.
Debra parents they were pretending as if their in love😂😮
What is odd about the television series (and others like it which are considered good) is the collection of contradictions internal to the characters. Marie teaches music and loves opera, learns French sitting alone in her living room and is embarrassed at the presence of her daughter-in-law at one lesson; she does an abstract sculpture, and then behaves so boorishly about cutlery and crockery in a restaurant. It is almost as if the writers forget what we as viewers already know about the characters from earlier episodes when they write later episodes. Could the show runner not remind them? Or is this the muddy thumb print of a studio executive asking for them to be sketched more crudely as boors?
I guess I see all that as Marie just trying to feel superior to those around her. She feels sophisticated listening to opera and learning French and it feeds that complex she has about needing to be better than people like Debra. When she meets people like Debra's parents who far outrank her in the sophistication department, her natural reaction is to balk at it and pretend it's all too much. This is less about her and more about her need to always be at odds with the people she feels threatened by.
Do recall that she is learning French and sculpting during the course of the show. She is trying to better herself which means she’s not there yet. She and Frank have always been cheap people due to their childhoods and we even have an episode where Frank is appalled at Ray’s gift of an aquarium due to the cost.
It’s easy to believe they’ve never been to a high-end restaurant due to the cost and Marie’s skill in the kitchen.
Like the one episode, where Robert has the habit of touching his spoon to his chin before he takes a bite, but he had never done that before or since 😂
i think they're so consumed with coming up with the next funny episode that they sometimes lose sight of the larger picture and that results in lapses in consistency etc
The fish-out-water feel of the episode wouldn't work as well if they clammed up and simply observed, like most people would. The writers are certainly playing up the class distinctions here, mining their discomfort in an exaggerated manner for comedic effort that may be a bit too broad. Lower-class folks have their pride, too, whether its warranted or not.
😂😂
this episode always bugs the crap out of me. hate the way frank, marie and robert all behave. they needed to be slapped.
You're right. They behaved poorly, but when you think about it, it was really a level of class that was the issue. Debra grew up in an upper middle-class family. Her parents were workday travelers. Whereas the Barones were more working class and hardly left the house. It's not surprising that there'd be tension.
Good Lord 🙄;
$ 32
This is just like my in~laws.
Talk about people across the 🌎 being similar in their habits.
Especially the middle class !!!!
Sometimes ya get reminded of the income disparity of the classes
My parents can't afford luxury. I can. I save like crazy. One day, i will give them an excellent anniversary party.
If that goal helps keep your head down and digging, good luck to ya
I still wanna know why Robert has a fear of busboys.
This restaurant is fancy. But too fancy.
Been to a place worse than that in NJ. The waiters would stand at attention and wait if a crumb hit the table. He came over and scraped it the table. The other filled your water constantly if it was half empty. Real pains in the ass.
It is disconcerting for a regular guy, but this is the level of service called for by traditional aristocratic attitudes. They want your rapt attention, as if God conferred the right to rule upon their house. Fine dining places like this are a glimpse into history, when demands weren't necessarily practical.
I thought Marie and Frank had been to Italy before? They said we aren't world travelers.
Raymond parent is embarrassed him lol
A kind host take his guests to a place where they are comfortable. The Wallens are just showing off here.
Then they would have whined that they were being cheap or something. You can never satisfy commoners. No use trying.
These are the worst parents one can ask for..sheez
I'm with Frank and Marie on this one. From the unnecessary utensils to the obscene prices. Not to mention the pretentious staff. Ughh, No thanks. Let's go to a steak house.
lol than why dont you just move back in a cave 😂 frank and maria literally acted like monkeys dressed up as humans
You don't have to be ecstatic about these types of places but at least make an effort and be polite.
5 forks is a bit extream though.
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Literally, send em home. There’s no way I would’ve put up with that bs. The level of uncouth and unsophistication bothered tf out of me in this scene
As a former "dressed up waiter", the server character made some terrible mistakes!
The ladies should have been given their bread first, starting with Debra (assuming the kitchen door was upstage right, making her position #2 after Robert), but Marie would have also been acceptable.
A party of 7 with two people arriving early, menus would be placed on the table when the Debra's parents were seated, so as not to make the early guests feel awkward or ill-prepared.
While being forced to take the extraneous glassware, the server shouldn't have put his fingers inside, but held them by the stem if no tray was available.
He should never announce specials with items in his hands.
And when Frank asked about rye bread, the answer should not have included the word "no." We would simply tell him what bread was being served. It's a way to re-establish control while still giving the guest the sense that he's not being denied anything.
Yeah, expedience in plot exposition superseded correct service here
I LOVVVVVE Marie !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ray’s mouth gets in a serious accident in this episode
😮 OMG
Must be from the first series. Marie was definitely less sophisticated in that.
Ye, the script has to stay true to the characters.
They wouldn’t have behaved like that. Love the show though.
yeah i think the show found its stride in the later seasons. robert was a lot more quirky to the point of barely being functional in the first season
I always felt that this episode was unrealistic. Yes, Frank and Marie were not people who would spend money on a fancy restaurant. But this doesn't mean they wouldn't understand that such places exist and how to behave in one. Marie married in the 1950's and raised her kids in the 60's and 70's. All the major women's magazines (mostly geared toward housewives- Good Housekeeping, Family Circle,. etc) had many articles about formal dining. Marie would have understood why there were so many forks and glasses for one person.
@@maryk446 I agree the writing was to make Marie look ridiculous.
@@maryk446 the forks things had be mentioned rather than shown to played up for comedic effect, for sure. The fuss was also played up so Marie and Frank were thrown in together in their uncertain sputtering. You do need to be led a bit in fine dining, usually by waiters or veteran of that scene. That they acted like Bronxbillies was par for the course.
Cafoni
Frank and Marie acted like jerks.
People of france are uit de hoogte
They were so classless 😮
The rich and the extraordinary end up in cheating or marrying someone else.
So embarrassing frank, Marie and this time Robert also...I would ask to move to a different table and then ignore those three
Lois and warren still had a better relationship than marie and frank. maybe thats why theyre not liked by them the barones were pretty much modern day cavemen
This👍👍@@decimanightelf4135
I am Italian and Frank and Marie disgust me. There pictures should be next to rude and gauche in the dictionary. This is humour!!!
That wasn't funny ... Rays parents were just stupid.
Snobbery Inc
I dont even get why the herbs de Provence story is supposed to be funny. Of course you’ll get the herbs there, that’s what they’re named after.
This is meant to be a light-hearted sharing moment, not necessarily funny, about what it is to travel the world, told to people who don't travel at all. There was a serious misreading of the room here with this lightweight banter. With the right crowd, its a conversation starter.
"the customer is always right" haha horseshit
Customers are right
@@phyliciabozzi9414 they are certainly entitled to the initial benefit of the doubt in terms of being treated with respect, but abuse of this tenet is rapidly deteriorating the notion. Making it corporate policy to the detriment of its workers dignity is turning the working class cynical. Respect HAS to be reciprocated.
It's just acting obviously, I don't know why people comment on the situations