I'm with you on this one Swagg. This sale is a head-scratcher as to why anyone would pay 18.5k for a fanzine that's not really scarce. You could have spent 18k on various golden, silver or bronze age keys instead if you're a collector. If you're a speculator, it's a weird one to speculate on as there's plenty on the CGC census and I'm not aware of anything in the media that's going to make Wizard #1 pop. I think someone is trying to "pump" the price before the market gets flooded for this book. I guess we'll see....
You totally described me!👍😂 Ive been re collecting wizard for about the past 7 yrs! With all the covers etc.im still about 80 issues shy of completion!ive also got about 99 percent of all zero/1/2's and specials etc!!, believe it or not the tougher ones to find are the later ones.i believe most were recycled!☹️I do have two beautiful number ones!!👍ill never part with any of my collection tho!!🥰
I’m amazed that Wizard magazines have become this valuable-I used to grab them in the dollar bin back in the day-I bought #1 for $30 at a show back in the day( #1 was tough to find)-but $18,500? that’s Fantasy 15 money-but to each their own
*_One thing to note, back in the day at least, we all wrote in the Wizard magazines, to note of upcoming releases or checked off the checklist and handed to our local comic book shop. So a UNIVERSAL GRADE and in a 9.8 AND a NEWSSTAND.....it is somewhat valuable. But $18K?!!_* Edit for spelling.
Agreed. Publications about comics were never preserved the way that comics were. I searched for a high-grade Quesada variant of Wizard #131 (first appearance and cover of Isaiah Bradley) for a long time. I purchased almost a dozen copies and sent the best of the bunch to CGC for grading only for it to come back as an 8.0. These magazines were manhandled and little care was given to preservation. The cheap cover stock and binding is very unforgiving. It would be understandable that some collectors might have archived the debut issue because it was a number one and a McFarlane cover, but the census numbers for later issues are insanely low.
Thanks for the video Mickey! Very good analysis on rarity of condition based on SDCC vs Newsstand. You are going to see a flood of Wizard #1 going to CGC; including price-plummet in secondary market. I will NOT be jumping on the “Wizard-Wagon”. Keep grinding bro!✌🏼
I only ever bought a few copies of Wizard off the shelf back in the day, but #1 is the only one I intentionally kept. Though, I do know that issue #1's internal paper quality was just regular comic stock... I know by issue #8 they had gone to the glossy stuff.
I'm not shocked about this $18,500 comic book. If there is comic book out there that someone is looking for to complete their collection & there is certain grade that they are looking for, someone will pay a high price if they have the money to do it. Just two weeks a go A spider man comic was bought for over a hundred thousand dollars at this comic book store that I go to, they a nether one for over three hundred thousand & that one is a super man comic book. They have monthly auctions there & I seen bidders battle it out on a bat man comic book worth $75 & the winner ended paying $300 for it. In my opinion you never know how much something is going to go for in the comic book world & I love it.
We will definitely be seeing some unloading in the market. Wizard had a print run of roughly 100k per issue. But, as per your point about how they would’ve been treated, we might see a relatively low percentage grade out as 9.8s. I know that I wasn’t kind to my Wizard copies… while I always handled my comics extremely gently. It’ll be interesting to watch the census develop over time for this magazine.
I think that if this continues, one of two things will happen. Comic collectors will get price out of the market or more likely, there is going to be a crash reset. Probably would happen for sure if Marvel movies start to fail to make money.
I can't remember the number but the only wizard I kept from back in the day is the one with snake eyes fighting wolverine on the cover. Loved that cover!
I predict a big dose of buyers remorse for this buyer, I imagine there are pallets of these books on the way to CGC for grading as we speak! Only a matter of time before more Newsstand 9.8's hit the market.
The only reason to pay 18k is if I owned the IP and I’m relaunching Wizard magazine. In that case, hyping and pumping the value is a great marketing move. Otherwise, pure stupidity.
I can think of many many other books I would rather have for that money, but I understand it. The buyer is obviously well off and maybe he is at the point where he is just getting his money out of the dollar bill and buying anything of worth.
My favorite column was Bart Sears’ how to draw section in those Wizard magazines. Didn’t really pick these up for the prices. Only one LCS in town and that dude pretty much set the prices 😂
Thanks for the great video again! I think we are seeing some “pump it up” shenanigans here! Wizard 1 is absolutely not rare and I’m sure some people have boxes/piles of unread copies!
Its not so much that its Wizard #1… The Magazine hobby is growing especially Newsstands and its funny because that $600 Ebay listing of the first 3 Wizards are mine lol found them at my Lcs last year in the 25cent bins and only put it up because i seen the trend happening
It's a shill bid to artificially drive up the price. Don't fall for it guys. There's no long term value for a nostalgia based magazine future generations won't care about.
Where in 2024 so was there an influx? I dont think so the book is rare price make sense yup these magazines are desirable see number 1 spiderman newstand going up in price pass the 18 500 dollas for sure and the other magazines prices going up to
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Must be nice to have $18k lying around to FOMO into things
Cry harder
I'm with you on this one Swagg. This sale is a head-scratcher as to why anyone would pay 18.5k for a fanzine that's not really scarce. You could have spent 18k on various golden, silver or bronze age keys instead if you're a collector. If you're a speculator, it's a weird one to speculate on as there's plenty on the CGC census and I'm not aware of anything in the media that's going to make Wizard #1 pop. I think someone is trying to "pump" the price before the market gets flooded for this book. I guess we'll see....
You totally described me!👍😂 Ive been re collecting wizard for about the past 7 yrs! With all the covers etc.im still about 80 issues shy of completion!ive also got about 99 percent of all zero/1/2's and specials etc!!, believe it or not the tougher ones to find are the later ones.i believe most were recycled!☹️I do have two beautiful number ones!!👍ill never part with any of my collection tho!!🥰
Man, I bought every issue starting from #1 for the first 3 years. Saved them for a few years but threw them all away in the late 90s.
I’m amazed that Wizard magazines have become this valuable-I used to grab them in the dollar bin back in the day-I bought #1 for $30 at a show back in the day( #1 was tough to find)-but $18,500? that’s Fantasy 15 money-but to each their own
A fool and his money shall soon part.
*_One thing to note, back in the day at least, we all wrote in the Wizard magazines, to note of upcoming releases or checked off the checklist and handed to our local comic book shop. So a UNIVERSAL GRADE and in a 9.8 AND a NEWSSTAND.....it is somewhat valuable. But $18K?!!_*
Edit for spelling.
Agreed. Publications about comics were never preserved the way that comics were. I searched for a high-grade Quesada variant of Wizard #131 (first appearance and cover of Isaiah Bradley) for a long time. I purchased almost a dozen copies and sent the best of the bunch to CGC for grading only for it to come back as an 8.0.
These magazines were manhandled and little care was given to preservation. The cheap cover stock and binding is very unforgiving. It would be understandable that some collectors might have archived the debut issue because it was a number one and a McFarlane cover, but the census numbers for later issues are insanely low.
Thanks for the video Mickey! Very good analysis on rarity of condition based on SDCC vs Newsstand. You are going to see a flood of Wizard #1 going to CGC; including price-plummet in secondary market. I will NOT be jumping on the “Wizard-Wagon”. Keep grinding bro!✌🏼
I only ever bought a few copies of Wizard off the shelf back in the day, but #1 is the only one I intentionally kept. Though, I do know that issue #1's internal paper quality was just regular comic stock... I know by issue #8 they had gone to the glossy stuff.
I'm not shocked about this $18,500 comic book. If there is comic book out there that someone is looking for to complete their collection & there is certain grade that they are looking for, someone will pay a high price if they have the money to do it. Just two weeks a go A spider man comic was bought for over a hundred thousand dollars at this comic book store that I go to, they a nether one for over three hundred thousand & that one is a super man comic book. They have monthly auctions there & I seen bidders battle it out on a bat man comic book worth $75 & the winner ended paying $300 for it. In my opinion you never know how much something is going to go for in the comic book world & I love it.
There's some big collectors out there. Doubtful if 18k is the same money to the buyer vs the rest of us.
I think you should revisit it in 6 months and see how many are on the census
Your right swag, we have seen this play out before. Next we'll hear warehouse find. lol
We will definitely be seeing some unloading in the market. Wizard had a print run of roughly 100k per issue. But, as per your point about how they would’ve been treated, we might see a relatively low percentage grade out as 9.8s. I know that I wasn’t kind to my Wizard copies… while I always handled my comics extremely gently. It’ll be interesting to watch the census develop over time for this magazine.
Wizard magazine was awesome. Back when comics journalism actually and depth.
Everyone is scrambling to find Wizard magazine #1 now !!!
I think that if this continues, one of two things will happen. Comic collectors will get price out of the market or more likely, there is going to be a crash reset. Probably would happen for sure if Marvel movies start to fail to make money.
Thanks for reviewing this topic! Found it really interesting to hear your thoughts.
Have a complete set of wizard except the SDCC wizard always alluded me.
The "magician cape"?? It's right there in the title, Mickey!! 😆
Lolol, what was going on in my head at that moment “think Mickey, what do they call Gandalf again….a magician!”
@@Swagglehaus Hahaha
I could see wizard issue 1 in a 9.8 selling for 1,000 or $2,000 but $18,000 that was foolish
Swag bought some wizards back in the 1990s but then the price range was from $5.00 to $6.00 per Book Canadian.
I can't remember the number but the only wizard I kept from back in the day is the one with snake eyes fighting wolverine on the cover. Loved that cover!
I have 3 direct and 1 newsy of issue 1 of wizard, just got my nicest copy back from CGC, 9.2
Nice informative content w/ great notes, appreciate the warning and getting to see those numbers in that market.
I have many of these I use to get them from my LCS in my pull box so maybe I should have it graded. I bagged and boarded each one.
I predict a big dose of buyers remorse for this buyer, I imagine there are pallets of these books on the way to CGC for grading as we speak! Only a matter of time before more Newsstand 9.8's hit the market.
It won’t happen right away cgc takes about 7 months to a year to grade magazines
Do you think toy fare magazines published by wizard will go up.
I have collectible toilet paper in my home. It's very rare or at least it was in 2020... #toiletpaper
I spent less for a midgrade FF1!!! Insanity. This will not end well.
I wonder what the 9.8 signed by Todd is going to sell for now? I saw one recently.
The only reason to pay 18k is if I owned the IP and I’m relaunching Wizard magazine. In that case, hyping and pumping the value is a great marketing move. Otherwise, pure stupidity.
I can think of many many other books I would rather have for that money, but I understand it. The buyer is obviously well off and maybe he is at the point where he is just getting his money out of the dollar bill and buying anything of worth.
My favorite column was Bart Sears’ how to draw section in those Wizard magazines. Didn’t really pick these up for the prices. Only one LCS in town and that dude pretty much set the prices 😂
Smells like market manipulation to me
If people are going to collect pet rocks, then it stands to reason that wizard comics would be collected too
Magazines take forever to grade so no correction anytime soon
There's definitely some value here but I not a ton. Did you see Wizard 181/2 though? Helloooooo nurse!!!
Thanks for the great video again! I think we are seeing some “pump it up” shenanigans here! Wizard 1 is absolutely not rare and I’m sure some people have boxes/piles of unread copies!
This 18.5k purchase is laughable. As they say, “a fool and his money shall part separate ways..”
Its not so much that its Wizard #1… The Magazine hobby is growing especially Newsstands and its funny because that $600 Ebay listing of the first 3 Wizards are mine lol found them at my Lcs last year in the 25cent bins and only put it up because i seen the trend happening
Any idea what the 9/11 issue remembered is worth?
To think that I put all my wizard magazines in the recycle bin. 😂
While I believe that there is no wrong to collect, I really don't get this one. But obviously there is a market for these items.
It's a shill bid to artificially drive up the price. Don't fall for it guys. There's no long term value for a nostalgia based magazine future generations won't care about.
Overstreet has been around since the 70s
Can't find it for the life of me in Go Collect!!!
CGC takes over a year to grade magazines, this sold copy will not be in any buyer's price memory in February of 2024.
Yoooo I use to hav that !! I think I got a spawn one some where 😂
That's like a million dollars in Canadian!!🤣
You just hating because you can’t afford to drop 18k on a *checks notes* 9.8 Wizard Magaz.... wait a wizard magazine 🧐🤨🤔
I agree
I agree
To each their own I guess but this is not a wise decision to buy… it almost seems manufactured
I’m sorry but that is absolutely ridiculous. Dumb money
Do we know if this sale was legit ?
Black rock strikes again!
That's Whack ! Wizard .....come on ???Lol
We appreciate the caution but let the market dictate price. It might be chump change to some very wealthy person. It is what it is.
one is born every minute
anything 9.8 will sell
This is a massive con..I bought a high grade copy for 99p last year
Sounds like a waste of money. Not a great investment. But it was a great magazine back in the day.
🤦imagine if it was signed it'd gone for 50,000 lol
0:25 just sell what’s behind you? Problem solved
What a groaner...who in their right mind actually bought that thing ?
Where in 2024 so was there an influx? I dont think so the book is rare price make sense yup these magazines are desirable see number 1 spiderman newstand going up in price pass the 18 500 dollas for sure and the other magazines prices going up to
The 9.6 newsstand sells for less than 1k. As do the San Diego and File Copies in 9.8. The person who paid 18k for this is out 15k at least.
BUY A HONDA!!!
Man.....they should be putting a down payment on some land.
@@eljefe09 AMEN!
You make fun of darkhawk 1 one day it'll be spec!@hoodwood_comics
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This seems like a dumpster fire waiting to happen. If I had that kind of money to gamble on things that'll never hold value I'd rather buy NFTs.
You'd be better off buying comic original art with that money.
Sometimes I don't believe these prices are real @hoodwood_comics