Wrong Norma by Anne Carson

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  • @footwinner1
    @footwinner1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Your introduction about her appeal is spot on. Reading Eros The Bittersweet was the highlight of my reading last year. The way she approaches a topic and lets the meaning accumulate is a joy.

    • @LeafbyLeaf
      @LeafbyLeaf  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am very fond of my introduction, which was directly inspired by reading her, of course, so thank you for the affirmation! I love way you've described it, too--very spot on yourself!

  • @jdfromparis6230
    @jdfromparis6230 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The beauty of "the giant white smoke miltoning to heaven" comes because of the undefined quality of the word miltoning. In a regular metaphor, as beautiful as it might be, we can more or less equate clauses one to one to understand what is described. By using a neologism such as "miltoning" you get (at least) two possible outcomes.
    One, if you have never heard of Milton, you will maybe rely on the musical quality of the word and its position in the sentence to derive the meaning of the sentence (here it's not too complicated).
    Two, you've heard, or better yet, you've read Milton and will recall powerful images that you will then associate to the sentence you're reading.
    However, no matter what comes to your mind, it will be very undefined, ineffable, etc. As you cannot equate "miltoning" to any precise meaning. Your knowledge is what elevates the sentence, and your appreciation of Milton is what makes it an amazing sentence. In a way, Carson is quite cheeky. She asked Milton to turn a rather regular sentence into something epic without having to rely on anything but her reader's knowledge of another masterpiece. It's white smoke and mirrors miltoning to literary heaven.

    • @LeafbyLeaf
      @LeafbyLeaf  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Very, very well and artfully explicated, JD! Always appreciate hearing your keen take on things here.

  • @MaximTendu
    @MaximTendu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Your ongoing enthusiastic support of Anne Carson last year earned her a new reader, so thank you both.
    By the by, I've just finished reading A Room Of One's Own, which I'm sure Carson herself must have enjoyed.

    • @LeafbyLeaf
      @LeafbyLeaf  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Woohoo! Absolutely, she is a huge admirer of Woolf. (As am I.)

  • @bluewordsme2
    @bluewordsme2 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    it is extraordinary....i read the first week it was published and gave a copy to Marc Nash....i couldnt live without Carson and there is no one even close to doing what she does with the essay, the poetic form, classics, translation, etc....sui generis was created for her........lovely to see you taking her on....

    • @LeafbyLeaf
      @LeafbyLeaf  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      How lovely! Did you give him the copy whilst in foggy London town? :)

    • @bluewordsme2
      @bluewordsme2 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@LeafbyLeaf yes, i did...i gave him Norma and then John Ashbery edition of 3 long Prose Poems...he gave me some poetry...maybe some day the 3 of us can meet in london--it is a book lovers dream city.....great review Chris

  • @kieran_forster_artist
    @kieran_forster_artist 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was a very different exploration, to start, more a work of art in itself, a voice that allows for the book’s voice, done in the candle dark, ….great to watch you take more time in reading and capturing the atmosphere, that unitary multilayered right hemispheric sense that is at the heart of all great art.

    • @LeafbyLeaf
      @LeafbyLeaf  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks so much for the affirmation, Kieran! That opening bit was totally inspired by a long session of reading Carson herself. Art stimulating what I felt was a more creative approach than what I normally do.

    • @kieran_forster_artist
      @kieran_forster_artist 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The more the better Chris… a great evocation of the spirit of a book!

  • @Paromita_M
    @Paromita_M 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thank you for this wonderful video on the occasion of International Women's Day.
    I have only read Autobiography of Red but want to read more of her works and also reread them. There is something about her work which calls to me right now.
    This year I am hoping she is one of the top candidates for the Nobel.
    Wonderful video. 🙏🏽

    • @LeafbyLeaf
      @LeafbyLeaf  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My pleasure! (And thanks for noticing that I posted this on IWD.) I, too, agree that she is a top candidate for the Nobel. Her achievement is extraordinary in every way.

  • @lucyleadbeater7081
    @lucyleadbeater7081 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I see a library annex in your future Chris! Thanks for the lovely readings.

    • @LeafbyLeaf
      @LeafbyLeaf  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It is really a pleasure! (I have to admit, I'm not certain what you mean by the library annex, but you've intrigued me.)

    • @robotummy
      @robotummy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@LeafbyLeaf I think they mean you'll soon need a new room to house all the books on the floor (;

    • @LeafbyLeaf
      @LeafbyLeaf  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ahhhh! 🤣😜

  • @stefashaler8340
    @stefashaler8340 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you for the help! I just read all the Anne Carson books I could get from my library, including Wrong Norma. I hated her so many times. My grasp is so limited. Yet, I wholeheartedly intend to reread Wrong Norma and Autobiography of Red. It's such a love hate relationship for me.

    • @LeafbyLeaf
      @LeafbyLeaf  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We all have our love-hate relationships with authors!

  • @leafyconcern
    @leafyconcern 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am quite excited to get to this one. But first I think I wanna reread Glass, Irony, and God --- that book is gonna hit so hard given my more recent thinking about poem-essays

    • @LeafbyLeaf
      @LeafbyLeaf  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh, yes, that one and _Plainwater)_ !

  • @nathanfilbert2649
    @nathanfilbert2649 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for promoting brilliant work 🙏🏼

    • @LeafbyLeaf
      @LeafbyLeaf  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It is truly my pleasure!

  • @jamesgwarrior1981
    @jamesgwarrior1981 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Seems like I need Carson in my life

    • @timkjazz
      @timkjazz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The Beauty of the Husband

    • @LeafbyLeaf
      @LeafbyLeaf  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We all do.

  • @EnigmaticRecluse17
    @EnigmaticRecluse17 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your room is amazing.

    • @LeafbyLeaf
      @LeafbyLeaf  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you--it's literally a dream come true for me!

  • @simon215a
    @simon215a 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love you channel man 🎉✨☀️👍

    • @LeafbyLeaf
      @LeafbyLeaf  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks so much!

  • @alexis5721
    @alexis5721 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It is extraordinary. I recommend the book Recollections of things to come by Elena Garro

    • @LeafbyLeaf
      @LeafbyLeaf  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks so much for this recommendation!

  • @teejay1824
    @teejay1824 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just wondered from your accent are you from Pennsylvania?

    • @LeafbyLeaf
      @LeafbyLeaf  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No, but I've gotten that before. I am very sensitive to others' accents and have picked up an amalgamation of accents from Maryland, Virginia, Buffalo, and North Carolina. It's a mutt on an accent. Oh, I'm from Virginia, raised by Marylanders.

  • @jeff8835
    @jeff8835 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi Chris, i got this for my kindle, looks so sumptuous!! Are you considering ever having a Patreon? I'd love to join if you decide to, since i'm already joined with 2 of my other favorite booktubers. Thanks as always for your content.

    • @LeafbyLeaf
      @LeafbyLeaf  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hey there! Glad you are interested in this wonderful book, and I really appreciate your kind words. At present, I don't have any plans for a Patreon (mainly because I have no clue how I'd find the time to manage it). I consider all my content a gift borne out of my love for reading. If you do feel so compelled to throw some thanks my way (beyond commenting, which, for me, is thanks enough), you can "buy me a coffee" via the link in the video description. All best! --Chris

    • @jeff8835
      @jeff8835 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're a blessing, and thanks for your gift, coffee's on me. @@LeafbyLeaf