I can't get over the $40-$50 subscription fees with these machines. Up to $3000 for the machine itself, plus a $50 per month subscription is insane. This is more than a gym membership would cost you. One big advantage of a home gym is to save money. They're charging for streaming content. There's no reason they can't charge the same as other streaming content providers. Netflix, Hulu, Apple Fitness, Spotify, Alo Yoga, all streaming content providers no more than $20 per month. These smart gym companies are greedy.
My gym membership is $140 per month for my wife and I. Now we don't have to waste 20 minutes in the car every day and can work out at 2am if we want, watch our own TV, have our own bathroom and not have to wait on equipment.
@@exploringcolorado720 This! Its a per machine account. And the up front cost of these is basically negligible in the long term. You get that back quickly, especially if you are thinking of getting something for your home, you are likely going to have to spend $1000 or more for a lot less. I bet the pay back on this machine is a few years at most, just based on cost. When you add value + costs, its probably within a year. Its not like you are just getting equipment. You are getting guided workouts and programs. Basically personal training. That is at least $50 per hour (usually much more) so if you did any personal training, the pay back on this would be within a year.
I am interested to see what the Forme Lift brings to the table as far as not using the subscription, the Tonal fails on this one point by removing the eccentric ability when you don't have the sub... Otherwise it would be perfect for my needs. If the Forme Lift functions like a normal functional trainer without the sub, I would gladly pay $3K+ for it.
6:50 Did I hear you right. It costs $2495 p/m? That is excessive. I don't know if you meant to say the machine cost that much and forgot to give the monthly subscription?
That was super-helpful for me, thank you so much for putting it together. It should have a lot more views. I’m thinking of dipping my toes into the smart home gym with the tempo move, which is actually around 400 bucks, at least over Black Friday Cyber Monday. You use your TV, it comes with less weights than the regular tempo. If anyone has any feedback on that, I’d love to hear it.
There’s another machine called the Speediance that is similar to the Tonal but it doesn’t require mounting to the wall. I really want the Speediance but it isn’t as aesthetic as the Tonal and it looks like a piece of equipment. I want it to go into my living room or dining room so it’s important to me that it looks good. Also right now Speediance is offering lifetime streaming service so no monthly charge like the Tonal.
Absolutely yes. Not just two members , as many as you have. For $50 per month your whole family can enjoy tonal as many hours as you want. And coaches are very good and motivate you to do the best job you can.
I ordered the Mirror for my wife. It was supposed to be delivered on 12/23. However, the Mirror never arrived, not even a courtesy call to inform me that it wasn't coming. And now the company is giving me the runaround with no delivery date scheduled as of yet. I think I made a mistake in buying this from a company with no track record.
Tonal is a rip off. They keep inflating their subscription should be free when spending 4200 on it. I would rather get Speediance its 2600 bucks and life time membership.
It is so sad that if you get Tonal and not want their subscription they turn off the eccentric part of the lift. If I wanted a unit without that eccentric part there are many way less expensive machines one could get. Subscriptions suck, that's all there is to it.
This is crazy how fast this world works i was just thinkn of tha yest. ! That what if there was a smart gym but at the actual Gym not at home.. with sensors that wud track your form and calculates ur movements and muscle mass and everything, where when u leave the gym it tells u hoe much you've build, calories lost everything.. where u scan your ID. And it lists your record on a screen at the gym. Imagine hw cool wud that be, even better than the trainer , actually tracking your progress!
@@project.health how was the delivery/customer service with the Tonal? I have been reading a lot of negative reviews regarding the delivery time and customer service
@@amberthomas3052 Tonal delivery and customer service was awful. I had an installer show up at 10:30PM to do the install. No mask, no feet coverings. He had installed 7 other Tonals before mine. He spent 15 seconds with a stud finder and said my space wouldn't support the Tonal. I got a refund, but waited over 5 months to figure this out. Good luck...
@@shureedawn7931 Hi. In short - Tempo Pros: Free weights work despite tech hiccups; Quality accessories; Work out anywhere. Tonal Pros: Safer by getting into position before activating the digital weight; Being connected to the machine means all of your reps are counted unless there's a glitch; The interface + app are beyond impressive - detailed and colorful; Apple watch integration. Both correct form. Tempo Cons: Re-racking light weights is time consuming; Must face the machine for classes; Reps stop counting when the trainer (not you) stops. Tonal Cons: Depends on working tech - long term uncertainty; Cheap accessories; Custom workout moves may not be listed/logged accurately. >>Note
Permanent mounting, required subscriptions, can't use it while traveling nor are you accustomed to traditional weight movements if you find a gym while traveling. I don't understand the appeal of being so locked into this kind of stuff
There’s nothing stopping us from recording some of our favourite workouts on a superset device and playing it back to ourselves while travelling is there ? This is my plan. Pre record a couple favourite classes I can do while in a hotel room
Makes Peloton look like blithering idiots. JaxJox looks really cool - so did Tempo - more of a free weight fan - but time under tension with some of these others are very good as well.
Having a hard time seeing the value here. A virtually infinite number of videos can be downloaded and watched. This is just very sleek package in many ways. Thousands at start, ongoing changes monthly. yikes
It’s funny, I stopped watching your videos the moment you started peddling handy gym… don’t you pride yourself on creating a positive community in your videos? I guess it doesn’t hold true in the comments you post.
@@project.health when I posted this comment I expected an "lol" back or a light-hearted remark of some sort perhaps agreeing (or disagreeing) with what I said. I was simply trying to engage you (which clearly I did, but obviously in the wrong way). Sorry that what I said caused you to feel attacked in some way. It was a great video and I actually did watch it to the end! In either case I'm glad you don't watch my content anymore, you shouldn't have to see my face if you don't want to! Have a great one!
Here from Joey's apology video. Its unfortunate that he came across so mean. I know he's not like that. But I'm glad I got introduced to this channel. Looks promising and excited to grow. Subscribed!
I can't get over the $40-$50 subscription fees with these machines. Up to $3000 for the machine itself, plus a $50 per month subscription is insane. This is more than a gym membership would cost you. One big advantage of a home gym is to save money. They're charging for streaming content. There's no reason they can't charge the same as other streaming content providers. Netflix, Hulu, Apple Fitness, Spotify, Alo Yoga, all streaming content providers no more than $20 per month. These smart gym companies are greedy.
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I can't get over the $40-$50 subscription fees with these machines. Up to $3000 for the machine itself, plus a $50 per month subscription is insane. This is more than a gym membership would cost you. One big advantage of a home gym is to save money. They're charging for streaming content. There's no reason they can't charge the same as other streaming content providers. Netflix, Hulu, Apple Fitness, Spotify, Alo Yoga, all streaming content providers no more than $20 per month. These smart gym companies are greedy.
Agreed!
My gym membership is $140 per month for my wife and I. Now we don't have to waste 20 minutes in the car every day and can work out at 2am if we want, watch our own TV, have our own bathroom and not have to wait on equipment.
@@exploringcolorado720 I wouldn’t have to pay for childcare too!
@@exploringcolorado720 This! Its a per machine account. And the up front cost of these is basically negligible in the long term. You get that back quickly, especially if you are thinking of getting something for your home, you are likely going to have to spend $1000 or more for a lot less. I bet the pay back on this machine is a few years at most, just based on cost. When you add value + costs, its probably within a year.
Its not like you are just getting equipment. You are getting guided workouts and programs. Basically personal training. That is at least $50 per hour (usually much more) so if you did any personal training, the pay back on this would be within a year.
saving money is not and never has been an advantage to a home gym. the advantage is that you are HOME.... TIME is the advantage and always has been.
I have owned Tonal for almost four years, and I love the machine. It's well worth the price and monthly subscription cost.
I am interested to see what the Forme Lift brings to the table as far as not using the subscription, the Tonal fails on this one point by removing the eccentric ability when you don't have the sub... Otherwise it would be perfect for my needs. If the Forme Lift functions like a normal functional trainer without the sub, I would gladly pay $3K+ for it.
6:50 Did I hear you right. It costs $2495 p/m? That is excessive. I don't know if you meant to say the machine cost that much and forgot to give the monthly subscription?
Yea he mixed up his words
I’ve tried the Tonal. It’s as advertised and delightfully more!!!😊✨
what is the best excercise mat? to use ( i would use it in the cement garage floor)
6:49 2495 dollars per month? Did you mean to say that?
I knew I heard right
I had to listen 3 times.
Is there any mirror which isnt restricted to only use the workouts from the producer? Like streaming workouts from youtube?
Even though it’s not released yet, have you checked out the OxeFit XS1? I’m interested is seeing the reviews once the first batches are shipped out.
That was super-helpful for me, thank you so much for putting it together. It should have a lot more views.
I’m thinking of dipping my toes into the smart home gym with the tempo move, which is actually around 400 bucks, at least over Black Friday Cyber Monday. You use your TV, it comes with less weights than the regular tempo. If anyone has any feedback on that, I’d love to hear it.
Tonal is the best!!! Never enjoyed working out as much as with tonal.
There’s another machine called the Speediance that is similar to the Tonal but it doesn’t require mounting to the wall. I really want the Speediance but it isn’t as aesthetic as the Tonal and it looks like a piece of equipment. I want it to go into my living room or dining room so it’s important to me that it looks good. Also right now Speediance is offering lifetime streaming service so no monthly charge like the Tonal.
Ti al does charge a 50 a month fee
I am looking into speediance right now but their a skeleton crew now and communication is trash.
Great video! Do you have any thoughts on the Vitruvian V-Form Trainer? It's another smart home gym.
Haven’t tried or researched that one too much! I’ll have to give it a Google, thanks 💪🏼
@@project.health I’ll loooqo A a laklo
Max Pro? Ever used it?
The “dancer” for FORME must have been trained from Raygun
I had purchased my mirror January 2021. I still say it's the best!
Just ordered a Tonal last week!!
Great review video. Informative and concise
The best one is whichever is available in the uk. Only the nordictrack atm.
Can Tonal be used by 2 members of the same household? Do they track your workouts separately?
Never mind! It’s not available in Canada. 😫
Buy the mirror instead, no racist owners.
Yes it does.. i went to the tonal store in Los Angeles and it can do the whole family , individually .
Absolutely yes. Not just two members , as many as you have. For $50 per month your whole family can enjoy tonal as many hours as you want. And coaches are very good and motivate you to do the best job you can.
@@COINsimp2024 Why are tonal owners racist? What did they do?
we are the fitness mirror factory in shenzhen China, we also agree with, now, the fitness mirror more and more popular in EU now
Opinion, only , turn your background music down or turn your mic up..thanks , interesting information
One of the older videos before the new mic :)
Thank you for sharing
Love tonal, don't love the subscription. At $4000+ I really shouldn't have to pay $50 FOREVER to use it, that's just absurd
I completely agree with you, it’s overpriced for what it is… I do love it though!
They should definitely consider giving first purchase customers 1 year free subscription or at least 6 months
I’m interested, but not until they change the subscription plans/pricing.
Makes u it's bitch and says, "you don't own me!"
Good list thanks!
$2495 a month for the formlift?
I replayed that part twice just to make sure I wasnt losing my hearing… haha must be a mistake
I ordered the Mirror for my wife. It was supposed to be delivered on 12/23. However, the Mirror never arrived, not even a courtesy call to inform me that it wasn't coming. And now the company is giving me the runaround with no delivery date scheduled as of yet. I think I made a mistake in buying this from a company with no track record.
Did you ever get it? Cancel your order?
@@galesal1109 I got it finally. What a headache.
Id get the tonal if it didn't require the subscription
Tonal is a rip off. They keep inflating their subscription should be free when spending 4200 on it. I would rather get Speediance its 2600 bucks and life time membership.
The guy working out in the hat...I can't. 😭
Trying to convince my husband to get me one!
Wait, I was told by the tonal guy but I went to go see a live demo.its only hundred pounds per arm
I like the tempo
Just ordered my Forme Studio. 😜😄😀
It is so sad that if you get Tonal and not want their subscription they turn off the eccentric part of the lift. If I wanted a unit without that eccentric part there are many way less expensive machines one could get. Subscriptions suck, that's all there is to it.
Tonal all the way!
If you end Tonal subscription, what does it do?
Can't connect to the service
noyhing
This is crazy how fast this world works i was just thinkn of tha yest. ! That what if there was a smart gym but at the actual Gym not at home.. with sensors that wud track your form and calculates ur movements and muscle mass and everything, where when u leave the gym it tells u hoe much you've build, calories lost everything.. where u scan your ID. And it lists your record on a screen at the gym. Imagine hw cool wud that be, even better than the trainer , actually tracking your progress!
Thanks for watching! Check out the full Tonal Breakdown Video: th-cam.com/video/5u5fNw9tSDg/w-d-xo.html
I’d buy a Tonal if there wasn’t a subscription
you can use it without a subscription after the first year.
That's funny a product that has been released yet from the time of this recording should not be considered 2 or any of the 5... 2 is the tempo
Good vid 👍
I just get my own equipment and watch TH-cam workout videos . I get a much more work out for a cheaper price.
tonal number 1 lmaoo. For that price and subscription I can pay my rent and GYM and still travel to Europe every 6 months 🤣🤣
Exactly, people are idiots. You can't just pack it up and move it either.
Just because it's a lot for you doesn't mean it is for others.
@@exploringcolorado720 it's a lot considering you don't truly own it
TF I'll just run and do push-up, not paying 4k for a tv with arms.
Some people must really want to work out! $4k? Wow.
I have a Tonal, yay! I sold my Tempo.
Mine comes tomorrow, so excited!
How is it going? Tonal vs tempo
@@project.health how was the delivery/customer service with the Tonal? I have been reading a lot of negative reviews regarding the delivery time and customer service
@@amberthomas3052 Tonal delivery and customer service was awful. I had an installer show up at 10:30PM to do the install. No mask, no feet coverings. He had installed 7 other Tonals before mine. He spent 15 seconds with a stud finder and said my space wouldn't support the Tonal. I got a refund, but waited over 5 months to figure this out. Good luck...
@@shureedawn7931 Hi. In short - Tempo Pros: Free weights work despite tech hiccups; Quality accessories; Work out anywhere. Tonal Pros: Safer by getting into position before activating the digital weight; Being connected to the machine means all of your reps are counted unless there's a glitch; The interface + app are beyond impressive - detailed and colorful; Apple watch integration. Both correct form. Tempo Cons: Re-racking light weights is time consuming; Must face the machine for classes; Reps stop counting when the trainer (not you) stops. Tonal Cons: Depends on working tech - long term uncertainty; Cheap accessories; Custom workout moves may not be listed/logged accurately. >>Note
You get charged for owning it every month.
*best video for why you shouldn’t waste your money on any of these nonsense things and just simply go to the gym*
Tonal had the worst service ever !!!!!!!!!!!! Such a nightmare
TH-cam body weight exercises = 0
Gym membership = 30-40 a month
These products = car payments
Permanent mounting, required subscriptions, can't use it while traveling nor are you accustomed to traditional weight movements if you find a gym while traveling. I don't understand the appeal of being so locked into this kind of stuff
There’s nothing stopping us from recording some of our favourite workouts on a superset device and playing it back to ourselves while travelling is there ? This is my plan. Pre record a couple favourite classes I can do while in a hotel room
2495 dollars per month geez!
I caught that too
Haha oops good catch
Formelift is 5995 dollars
One advantage of a home gym, is the money you'll save on monthly fees... wait wut?
Makes Peloton look like blithering idiots. JaxJox looks really cool - so did Tempo - more of a free weight fan - but time under tension with some of these others are very good as well.
Ohreally
Included in the price of Tonal is paying millionaire athletes to promote it. Lose the celebrities and lower the price.
Why not just buy a good functional trainer? Will cost less, and likely last a lot longer, than these things. And no membership necessary.
Tempo. All. The. Way.
Having a hard time seeing the value here. A virtually infinite number of videos can be downloaded and watched. This is just very sleek package in many ways. Thousands at start, ongoing changes monthly. yikes
Great review. Horrible and annoying music. Had to skip ahead to #1.
$2495 per month…
LOL. 6:50
For real I had to replay it to make sure that's what he said that s***'s crazy
I stopped paying attention to this video the moment I noticed that the mirror was on the list.
It’s funny, I stopped watching your videos the moment you started peddling handy gym… don’t you pride yourself on creating a positive community in your videos? I guess it doesn’t hold true in the comments you post.
@@project.health when I posted this comment I expected an "lol" back or a light-hearted remark of some sort perhaps agreeing (or disagreeing) with what I said. I was simply trying to engage you (which clearly I did, but obviously in the wrong way). Sorry that what I said caused you to feel attacked in some way. It was a great video and I actually did watch it to the end! In either case I'm glad you don't watch my content anymore, you shouldn't have to see my face if you don't want to! Have a great one!
All good man - I do really enjoy your tonal videos, your results have been impressive
@@project.health thanks brother, much appreciated! Keep up your great work, it'll continue motivating others! ✊
Here from Joey's apology video. Its unfortunate that he came across so mean. I know he's not like that. But I'm glad I got introduced to this channel. Looks promising and excited to grow. Subscribed!
I can't get over the $40-$50 subscription fees with these machines. Up to $3000 for the machine itself, plus a $50 per month subscription is insane. This is more than a gym membership would cost you. One big advantage of a home gym is to save money. They're charging for streaming content. There's no reason they can't charge the same as other streaming content providers. Netflix, Hulu, Apple Fitness, Spotify, Alo Yoga, all streaming content providers no more than $20 per month. These smart gym companies are greedy.