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There are just so many ways to judge how good a character is. I’m so tempted to make a website that lets you view a tier list that incorporates only and all factors you wish to include, such as investment, best teams, overall value, etc. instead of a 1d list, you could have a 2d graph, or even a 3d one. Making animations for switching between them would be so fun.
I yearn for the days when we have a proper exploration tierlist. People keep sleeping on Wanderer because they've never tried him with movement speed buffs. They don't even have Lost Prayers.
@ The crazy thing is that exploration kits are so rare that even outside of Natlan, the Natlan cast still sweeps the top tiers of the exploration tierlist. But then you put them in Natlan and it's crazy to even use anyone else, unless you've got a dedicated movement speed team for Wanderer. (And even then... Chasca exists.)
Yeah... I came in the game at natlan so my best units are def natlan and the phlogiston bs baked into their kits is such fkn bs. Were gettimg cheated frfr @Bliss467
dendro mc in the same tier as qiqi is criminal Edit: for everyone in the replies, I’m not saying that dmc is good, but unlike qiqi they can be used in some teams and deserves to be at least one tier above qiqi, who barely can heal and doesn’t even generate energy
Dmc is a straight up downgrade over Yaoyao and collei, I don’t think there’s a single scenario you would prefer dmc over them. Being a simple dendro applier with minimal dpr and minimum kit utility isn’t going to get a good ranking
@ I don’t think dmc should get a good ranking, I’m saying dmc should not be in the same tier as a character that can’t generate energy and has the worst downtime of the entire game
@@math-sonic yes but tier lists are comparative, any team in this game could work but that doesn’t make it good. Dmc is still by far the worst option out of the 4* dendros
@@milflord3345 I hope when they patch it that they fix hydro traveler. I love using the traveler, currently trying to double crown pyro mc. I was devastated playing hydro traveler, it’s so ass 😭
i do enjoy how Lan Yan, Kazuha, and Sucrose are characters that fulfill the same role yet actually have very notable differences that change based on the desired team and/or the enemies.
Gonna have to hard disagree with Jello on this discrepancy. Emilie does 0 buffing, whereas Nahida has the biggest EM buff in the game. Burn vape Mualani hits stupid hard, and she's still BiS for Nilou. Nahida herself can do decent damage when people actually build her. Same tier at worst, definitely never in different tiers.
I might not agree with all of your "hot takes", but I really appreciate how you aren't blinded by older characters past performances and your willingness to look at their place in the meta currently when you rank them And I mean it both ways - when a character is suddenly way better like Diona, and when a character is not performing as they used to like Kazuha
He means jellos ranking will keep changing along with new abyss and with new and old characters being how useful they are now in the current abyss (which is a pretty stupid way to rank characters). Characters which will stay relevant for longer times to come, are the true meta like neuvi, arle, Kazuha, xilonen, nahida etc not the characters which help you clear the current abyss the fastest. P.S mavuika with her BIS teammates will be among one of the best dps in the game for a long long time, she can be considered meta too with her BIS. She with her BIS will be the benchmark for dps in the future. @@RAMI-m4w
I'll agree that Hyperbloom is a 1.5-level team, but I think for Nahida specifically, she deserves at least T1 because 1. she takes dendro teams to the next level (literally my alhatitham team pre-5.1 is not something I want to think about anymore), and 2. she can be used elsewhere. With Xilonen, you can now use her as a dendro applicator in the top aggravate teams which is good because she's got way more than anyone else AND can be a good sub-DPS over someone like Baizhu or Kirara. I think the second point also kind of applies to Alhaitham, but moreso that he's so good with just his weapon and and good artifacts, that he can very much carry even mid dendro and electro supports for him. Plus, and this is more of an irrelevant tangent, I think he's one of, if not the best, first DPS a new player can get. Because while he has somewhat specific combos, you can still get a ton of value out of him with unoptimal play, and because of that you can "learn" Genshin very well while piloting him. Like, practicing Alhaitham rotations was great for me because I could learn how optimization in Genshin works, while also losing little value if I ever messed up or deviated. Again, not really relevant to the meta discussion, but something I still think is worth considering. And I'm hoping we get what is essentially a Dendro Kazuha/Xilonen, or even just a Natlan dendro team buffer (preferably electro) so that they can use the scroll set since Deepwood already provides pretty good RES shred, and then we might get them back into T1, maybe even T0 levels (but probably not). TL;DR HOYO DON'T LET DENDRO BECOME THE NEW CRYO!!!
This was a really well edited video jello, ur attention to the graphic designs was so good..beautiful layout and love the way you made it visually appealing to show the tiers and how you revealed them
So, just for fun, Zajeff did a video where he computed Eula DPS assuming she'd hit pyro instead of physical - and hence could use the best supports including Citlali. The result is that Eula would still only do 3/4 the DPS of Mavuika, on top of all the quality of life issues she has (Mavuika has front-loaded damage, Eula is backloaded). Summary: no, there is simply no way Eula can be salvaged.
i'd say T4, i can't figure out a way to get her above like a razor level of damage. the best i've figured out is dehya bennett emilie, you get bennett boosted emilie damage, vape a couple of CAs then switch to normals to recover stamina and proc bloom cores for dehya to burgeon, so it's like a half dps half driver type of situation
Great formatting/editing/etc on this one. Easy to understand, minimal chance of players getting confused which is always really nice for a tier list. Loving the content
@@logikx1325 shes only on the team to bream the shields, hyperbloom is strong enuff for a 3 man core I can attest to this, can clear the abyss with: Nahida, Xingqui (c6), Kuki, Xiangling althought their builds are pretty good but all have 4star weapons
@@bryanadams4981 calling arle more flexible than neuv is kinda wild also neuv has better aoe, range and insane self sustain which arle just doesn't have
@ISMythix if you think neuvilette have more teams than arlecchino than you're just clueless also i literally clear abyss 12 with solo arlecchino she does have enough self sustain unlike neuvilette who is almost unplayable without a shield neuvilette glaze is so beyond real ngl
@@Senseisbinah if you have a "best team" and then take the worst one of those characters out and it no longer is the "best team" then that makes said character you removed a "best character" even if they are worse than the others cause no one else can replace them. If instead you can replace that character with anyone and still have it be the "best team" then that makes every character be at the same level and since they are all part of the "best team" they are all equally "best characters". The final option is that not everyone can be slotted in and only some of them can be, but if you can be slotted into the "best team" and still be the "best team" then you are a "best character". In this case the "best team" is Mavuika, Citlali, Bennet, Xilonen but certain content requires certain things so taking out one of them and putting in another can still be considered a best team so anyone that can be slotted into said team is a best character, thats just what being "best" is by definition. If Mavuika didnt exist in the game then neuvillete would be the best dps but if Xilonen, Citlali and Bennet didn't exist Mavuika would still be the best dps in the game. Is Xilonen not the best character since she isn't necessary to make Mavuika the strongest, no because she provides much more utility to much more characters in many more situations. Mavuika wont always be usable if the enemy is immune to pyro for example. There are different considerations when it comes to "best characters" if you take up a slot in a best team and dont make it no longer a best team then you should be considered a best character.
lost to clorindes weapon when going for fathers weapon. i had saved alot so after getting c1r1 arlechino i did a few pulls on clorinde to see if i would get lucky and i did! absolutely love her playstyle really fun and shes defenitly good!
I'm just a Tighnari shill, but hearing that he's considered difficult to play is WILD to me, because he's like second comfiest for me to play right after Neuvilette (thanks to range/super quick shots that are not as bothersome as playing Ganyu or Lyney). Yae takes care somewhat of AoE on his teams, but yeah he shines in ST, even if he's not AS locked into it as Yoi is. He carries me through every abyss excluding this one specifically, but even in previous one, he was amazing. I wish people didn't sleep on him, especially since he's free to get and amazing on even a 3* weapon. To me Tiggy feels better to play than all others in Jello T3 (as a package deal with Yae), but I get why most would't ever argue to move him up. I just keep being positively surprised by him every time he just smashes through abyss making it easy for me. The only thing I mostly disagree with is the label of "being carried by" because he isn't carried by any unit in particular, like others with Xilonen/Citlali or Furina or whatever else. He's the core of his teams, and he can be played with Yae or Kuki or Fishl or even double dps with Sethos, yes I cleared some recent abyss with that (Sethos at C0 lol), he doesn't even need Nahida, I treat her and Furina interchangably on his teams. He doesn't need a shielder even as a bow character, which not many other bows can claim. I know it's just in the flexibility/comfort part not much in power, but I think it's a big upside to this fox. Edit. Nilou is funny because she either feels like S+ tier or mid tier wholly depending on the content, kinda like Venti but to a lesser extent. When there's no ass shields/inherent enemy aura infusions etc and at least 2 targets she slays again, her clears are absolutely hilarious when everyone just EXPLODES before you realize what even went on lmao. She's a lot of fun and feels like a cheat code for AoE. +I'm Klee stan and player but even I wouldn't put her in same tier as Xiao, I think most characters are assumed at a premium team and Xiao slays even with C0R0 Xianyun. But yeah her C2/weapons make him go absolutely nuts. I mostly consider Klee as a support for my Furina, there she can comfily sit at T2, just on the other side of the table. +I agree Nahida is not as opressively needed as she was before, but she's still more than hyperbloom. She's still a great support even for a burnvape Mualani (and that's what carried me through current abysses Natlan ass shields, thank you tiny cabbage 🙏)
@SnazzySitara Exactly 🥰 my favourite example is Arlechino weekly boss where you don't have to worry about what you're doing, Tighnari auto tracking arrows WILL hit her lmao 🤭 (and some other trackers can't! Most even from what I remember)
Tighnari was my first 5*, and he carried me through Mondstadt, Liyue, and Inazuma, all the way to Sumeru. It's because of how easy he is to play that I'm not so good with other Bow users that require accuracy. I really should rebuild and start using him again with the current crop of OTT supports.
Happy to finally see Thoma's usefulness being recognized, he is such a useful and comfy character. Hope more people will consider building and using him!
He's almost as important to Clorinde's Overload team as Chevreuse, because his collapsing shield keeps applying the pyro to be overloaded, while keeping Clorinde from being interrupted.
@ If used with Clorinde Overload he will usually be the one triggering Overloads, so you want EM and ER. I'm using Favonius and Gilded Dreams, but you can use two 2pc EM sets or Noblesse as well. Main stats ER, EM, EM and substats ER > EM > HP (and maybe Crit Rate for Favonius). As general shield support I'd suggest Noblesse and you focus on HP instead of EM.
And now she's T3 on the downloadable list. Love her anyway, she was my first 5* back when she came out and will ever have a place in my heart. And she is cute as hell :)
If I could make one suggestion which is inspired by Prydwen's tier list for WuWa. Add the expert tag. The expert tag essentially means you can bump the unit up a tier if the player is skilled with them. Might help you acknowledge the strength of a character while still reflecting where they are for most players. Hope that is helpful, beyond that i watched the whole video and i appreciate the work that went into it plus the presentation quality and accuracy of the placings. Have a good day! 😄
@@MrSquishy0 childe maybe? childe international actually requires some level of effort and thinking in its rotations which is more than what can be said for 90% of the cast.
and I hate the HSR style of powercreep (someone got directly powercrept 5 patches after release BEFORE even a rerun), makes me wonder how worse it could become SIMILAR to HSR's chaos powercreep in the future
This is why I quit lol, I lost feixiao and my account was basically bricked for a solid 3 months for endgame modes, now it seems like even Acheron is startingto phase out of the viable category, it's very hard to keep up with the game as an f2p @@wuru-ivur
whats this arle team u use with ayaka? and can i see ur build, akasha or something like this with ur uid if u dont mind. i want to use my fallen off ayaka in my new arle melt
@@eraseyoursoc1al I suspect Ayaka might be C4 for the def shred. The duration is not long enough to get more than 2 melts which is way lower than most others. In most cases, you will get 1 melt.
OMG I am using that too. Just with a sacrificial sword 280% er and good crit stats. Mavuika is having a field day with this build and her burst comes back in no time too..
I think people forget that arlecchino in all of her attacks goes towards the enemy and even in her third NA she pulls enemies closer. It increases her viability as a melee dps.
Good list! I like Navia a lot for the universally good job vs any elemental shield so she works well against any normal elemental shields, as these Natlan shields have dropped her down in abyss for me, but I can see the mavuika/navia triple nuke, and I want to use that at some point.
NOTE: I've decided to "un-order" the entire tier list. so T1 is no longer ordered. Within tiers ordering is so enemy, meta, and team dependent, it's more accurate to just leave it unordered. - Btw Emilie doesn’t do double fischl damage that was hyperbole I meant to cut that out. - move klee down one tier
Yeah his grouping has been completely useless and the vv buff can be given by other characters as well, his dmg buff is something but lanyan/sucrose give Thrilling tales+ EM , plus lanyan gives the strongest sheild with cons
I'm curious as to why Electro traveler is considered T5 on field when it's kit is clearly designed for off field (probably T4). Skill is for funneling energy to party members and burst is like Raiden skill. It's entirely an off field movelist. Full ER build's Burst can be used for procing Superconduct, Aggravate, or Electro-charged for Ororon players with a hydro on field. Full EM build's Burst can be used for hyperbloom or chevreuse overloaded. I'd say they're the third best traveler after Pyro and Dendro but they're just overshadowed by Fischl and Raiden in terms of damage and energy generation so they never got their time.
@ He's not an on-fielder though is what I'm getting at so it is actually a wonder he's down there as T5 main dps. None of the travelers have good damage and only dendro has good application. They aren't meant to be damaging characters.
I'll only ever pull for a character I like, but since dumping 500 wishes (F2P) on a Dehya I don't use, I've decided that I'll still only pull for a character I like - but as long as they'll be useful on my account. This list will help me make better pull decisions, even though I know which upcoming units I want.
I think it's very healthy to strike a balance between how much you like a character and how useful they'll be to your account. I have the goal of becoming a Wriothesley main, and hence pulled Shenhe from the Chronicled Wish banner, not because she's the best support in the game, but because she's one of the best supports for Wriothesley on a good number of his teams. She supports my favorite, and that's why I picked her.
You are correct to do that imo. Still you can pull units you dont dislike if they help your fav units to be stronger. I dont like DJ Xilonen but I got her for my abyss clears as an option for my fav dps.
Thank you for standing firm on your beliefs regarding Clorinde, it's ridiculous how much of a smear campaign has been thrown at the character. She's amazing, that simple.
I'd agree with T1, I don't know if she's top 5 though. To me, Navia, Clorinde, Hu Tao, and lowk Alhaitham are right around the cusp of T1 and T1.5. I'll admit to being an Alhaitham apologist, but considering he's kinda the only Spread/Hyperbloom DPS (I consider Clorinde as hypercarry that just happens to be usable in hyperbloom bc of her element), his personal damage is the second biggest damage increase to hyperbloom only behind Nahida, and he is very easy to build and play. But, again, he's probably the lowest of the 4 I mentioned, but if we get an off-field scroll user that can also buff dendro reaction damage, we're so back and idc what anyone says I will only see him as T1 at the lowest. Like I consider all the Natlan DPS as better than her, with only support scroll Mavuika, not Dual DPS.
No matter how much you want to glaze Clorinde she is NEVER beating Mualani or even Kinich/Chasca Mualani has 2nd highest dpr and dps in the game and has multi target as long as targets are close Kinich and Chasca are single target but their dps is so high them not having aoe becomes a non issue Dump Clorinde down to top of T1.5, put Mualani at top of T1 or just T0 between Mavu and Neuvi
@@mapekalianhna4986 To be fair if you don't use Mualani a lot she is kinda unreliable. Took me a few weeks to learn her quirks enough to not have her be "reset impact" as Jello says. But it is possible to stop missing with practice and when you do......she gives Mav a run for her money on effective dps.
It is by far the most complete tier list i've ever seen on youtube. 55 minutes just felt nothing to me. I may have some minor disagreements with you but that's ok, because these kind of tier lists are very subjective. For example, I THINK zhongli doesn't belong to tier 1.5 and he should go down to tier 2 or GAMING is Mid character to me (even at C6) and ... There is an ancient chinese proverb that says: " you see jello's video, you click on it" Thank you ❤
13:07 I’m a Yoimiya simp but not a Yoimiya glazer, there’s just never going to be a reality where she’s good. Her kit has too many flaws and just poorly thought out game design, and even when Hoyo gives her new teammates, they just end up benefiting the likes of Hu Tao, Arlecchino, and Mavuika more. All that said, always play your mains, and I’ll be doing just that until this game’s over or I quit lol
@ At least with Dehya the concept of a bruiser is present in her kit, but I have no idea what Hoyo was smoking when giving her a huge fireworks burst that can so easily miss because the AoE is just that small
yoimiya got a breath of fresh air with citlali and this has given her room for improvement through citlali constellations , she isnt bad at ST , just heavy competition by the other pyro carries 🤗
I frequently think that I pulled no pyro dps until mavuika and then I remember my lonely Yoimiya. I farmed Shimmy for so long that I ended up with a stupid strong XL that eliminated my need for any pyro for years.
Honestly, I love the tierlist. I have some reservations towards Mavuika but overall I agree with everything, that's how the game feels to me, too. And I love that you separated DPS and supports, that makes things much more clear.
I have no complains about placing clorinde that high up, the only thing that bothers me is that he says that shes better than kinich, Chasca, Navia and MUALANI, if only he made a disclaimer that tier 1 wasn't in order (aside from alerchino wich it's clearly better then the rest) I would have agreed with everything in this video.
Arlecchino isn't better than Mualani Mualani has ~>dpr, if anything she should be in T0 Then put Arlecchino in T0.5 And dump down Clorinde to bottom of T1
@@bocchiii. Right mualani is clearly T0 DPS... The fact that she still performs great even with f2p supports like sucrose mona candace xiangling kachina, neuvi or mavuika cant Even imagine to perform that great with f2p supports... especially neuvi, he needs best supports from the entire game to be on meta... And again, her peak potential is way way more than neuvi and even surpasses mavuika.. Although this list was for c0r1, but if we count higher investments too like c2r1, c6, even there mualani is clearly very strong, such that even her c2r1 performs equally or slightly better than c6r1 of OTHER META DPS... Her AOE is more than arle or equal to arle at least (she does 5 missiles) I dont find mualani inconsistent, you just need to be avg lvl skilled genshin Player not a brain dead neuvi user and that would be enough.. And even neuvi is sometimes cringe to play at c0 bcz of lack of interruption resistance which is not the case for mualani.. And mualani DPS is way way more than arle and neuvi, only mavuika is up there to compete with her ..and even mavuika outside of her best team dont have that much dmg per rotation as of mualani... And mualani mavuika team is also very strong..
@@Osman_Khan_003 Mualani above Mavuika is a reach You average 3m dpr with Mavuika and 2.4m dpr with Mualani at high levels of investment, they're close but Mualani is nowhere near to outdoing Mavu, at best she gets really close Other than that she's easily top 2 dps in the game and her c2 does in fact still have 2nd highest dpr in the game
@@bocchiii. In mualani best team, her dpr is about 3M too... mavuika scroll, xilonen petra, c1 mona instructor and c0r1 mualani... Mavuika DPS is Higher than mualani, only little bit Higher...but if we give r5 Widsth to mualani, and gets the buff either of EM or dmg bonus which we end up getting the most of the times, then mualani will even surpass mavuika DPR... And outside best team, mavuika dpr falls off a cliff but mualani doesn't...thats why i said with even f2p supports mualani is broken but mavuika and Neuvi are not And this is when mualani only uses xilonen from the best supports, mavuika on the other hand, all her supports are her best supports... The day mualani gets one more broken support made for vape (just like we have citlali for melt) she will eventually be on the same dmg ceiling as of mavuika best team .. Though outside best team, mualani is already ahead
I agree with you with clorinde. She's easy to use and doesn't use meta supports. I can breeze thru the past abyss in 1 run using clorinde as my 2nd team. My other team is mostly double hydro Neuvilette.
@@rickiemaI don’t really agree, as much as I love fischl what ororon lacks in damage he provides me in support. He’s an incredible scroll user for any electro teams and he provides aoe taunt which is good for crowd control so I think there on par
@@rickiemanot all of them though. You don't use Fischl in Raiden overload or Mavuika overload and Clorinde's vest overload uses Ororon instead. Fischl's weakness in overload is ST which means you're not havign res shred for all the enemies you fight in AoE, and the overload knockback can often push enemies outside Oz' attack radius. Fischl is strong for overload where you are facing bosses or elite enemies instead.
Huge shoutout to all the creators, and of course, Jello! The effort put into this is truly incredible. The amount of work put in here solidifies why you are def S tier among Gacha CCs. 🙌🏽🙌🏽
I’d probably put Arlecchino and Chasca in a Tier 0.5 personally, especially with the c1 or r1 assumption. Arlecchino because of the gap between her and the rest of Tier 1 as you noted, and Chasca because what she lacks in damage she makes up for with godly amounts of comfort, flexibility and account value. Her auto-aiming and flight allows her to ignore or cheese outright a ton of mechanics that are meant to make a fight more difficult or lengthy, her gameplay is Neuvillette levels of easy, she’s happy to deal with a LOT of more mid teammates that may drag other main dps characters down far harder(while also scaling with the meta supports very well), and her elemental damage mechanic means she can act as a wild-card for element checks in the Abyss. Again, ESPECIALLY at c1 where you can double up on a PEHC element without any major DPS loss. Chasca imo is as slept on as you believe Clorinde is.
yes! this. with furina, citlali, benny? You would be hard pressed to find any content you will struggle with. need them on another team, fine with mona(TTDS), tankfei (p. amber) and ororon (HOCC)? dont have them?FINE! fischl, pyro traveller( HOCC), barbara (TTDS) it is then. still no? ok just put any PECH
yeah because arle mains are too busy complaining about their character getting powercrept and not actually realizing she is competitive and still very good even post mavuika release
@@AngeUshiromiya725 To be fair I still think Arlecchino should put out significantly more DPS than Mavuika and Neuvillette simply because of the fact that she is so damn squishy and her pulling her ultimate to heal actually results in a DPS loss. That being said I don't think she's weak or unusable - if played well, she does similar damage to Neuvillette, if not more, and that's already saying a TON. Her only downside is how squishy she feels compared to him.
@@GheistXin while it is true that in terms of just damage , she is stronger than neuvillete but ultimately loses on all other fronts ( ease of use , etc ) as for mavuika , its not remotely close bro , c0r1 mavuika has the same dpr with c2r1 arle , powercreep hit rly hard with this release and mav just makes everything else feel like ass from a meta perspective. This doesnt mean even in the slightest that arle isnt meta anymore , she sure is , its just that mavuika is the better pyro carry now
I really don't get the Clorinde slander here. She is extremely flexible, overload, aggravate, taser, HyperXilonen, all teams she can use, and use really well, with a wide variety of characters. Plenty of weapons she can use, 4star and 5star ones, easy to build. No, seriously, I don't get why so many here are perplexed she is high on the list.
Because on release, certain dishonest ccs downplayed her and started making up weaknesses on her performance that dont rly exist, while glazing other inferior units
@@zente3003 Zajef slanders a lot and TGS were really lazy recomending TF or saying it was close to Whimsy. It's like recommending Crimson with for Mavuika it's works but you're losing a lot of damage. Then people wonder why their TF set, 4 star weapon and cheap Clorinde teams do no damage vs their fully decked out teams
@puma21puma21 I was using her with TF for a while, it did the job, but after trying to get some Whimsy pieces for testing, the difference is very noticeable, even on a 2/2 build
Honestly... This is the best tearlist i have ever seen, to split on field and off field is just so helpful, also 5 star and 4 star investment is also on point. 100% Agree with all placements
??? This is a meta tier list a lot of us who has played for years have cons and weapons at F2P. I don't have Serpent Spine or any of the BP weapons but I do have Homa, Thousand Suns, Key, Redhorn, Nahida's weapon, and Mistsplitter. Once you play long enough you stop summoning for long periods of time and have plenty of primos
Pulling for cons and signatured is the most optimal things a f2p can do. The false myths of 'Oh you can clear with 4 stars and c0 5 stars' are straight up false. These rumours are spread by Old theory crafters like Zhajef who refuse to let go of the past where abyss was a joke.
@@noob.69sb You still can technically clear using those but you'll have a hard time. Especially the trend with Natlan Units getting powerful early constellations.
@keithcruz8932 Last abyss was borderline impossible to clear with 4 star characters even for the speedruners and experts with top 1% builds. This abyss, although a little bit easier is still quite hard. Not to mention most of the old 5 star carries are also having a hard time. I think it is best that f2p players amp up two powerful teams for abyss and pull for cons instead of new dps every patch.
@ It is in fact true. Mona give 60% dmg buff for 6 sec, 15% vape bonus, TTDS, possibly NO. Arli dont vape too often so that another +. If you have c4 she also gives 15% CR.
I run Noelle on Marcheusse Hunter Set with Furina, Raiden, and Xilonen. Granted, that is three 5 stars, but that team works really well. I think at that point, she becomes tier 2.
@@kamoraavayuna7726because not many has the creativity with her. Sac bow and her passive is nothing to laugh at when used right, she is still the best off field c0 furina healer enabling higher ceiling for sub DPS.
30:56 Thank you for being the only CC to acknowledge Pyro travelor. He's very strong, best Travelor we had to date. I play him with Codex as on field because that's what his kit suggest. He demands Citlali and bennet as a teammates. easily hit 370k ult with trash artifacts and once we get his c6 he'll do more damage with autos. You e-Q with Citlali, then Travelor: Hold E -> Melt Ult and then Auto Auto...
best tier list it would be funny if ppl after this vid gonna invest in flexible diluc with his 1 and only team invest in diona on-filed kokomi mona - in the same tier as Nahida Emile - i hope not only CC's pull her and play her Latest abyss clears doesnt prove anything, coz ur tier list isnt just for 1 time use only overall, good shit. Make more
its still shocking to me that you havent broken over 100k followers. You are one of the most thorough genshin content creators Edit: okay i see why now, ur still on this chlorinde bandwagon. we love Keqing here, Sir disliked, reported for harrassment, and doubling down and sending hate on twitter
I really wish I could justify arguing HuTao belongs in tier 1.....but with the either/or on weapon and c1 I can't. I still run her vape with Yelan instead of Citlali because I find Citlali/Furina incapable of maintaining consistent enough application for melt/vape given the speed of HuTao's strikes at 1N 1C Cancel (c2r1 HuTao). Arle is far easier to play, good gap closure on N3, no worries about animation cancels and easier enemy positioning to get solid AoE so I see the reasoning.....but HuTao is just more fun.
There is definitely not such a big difference between Wriothesley Ganyu and Ayaka. They should all be in the same tier. Because all of them perform similarly. Especially in this Abyss they perform well against the Suanni and I would place all 3 of them in T2, but T1.5 could also be possible. But Ganyu definitely is not T3
@Qwerty-ns9yk if Neuvillette is a top 2 dps for his ease of use and his team flexibility despite quite a few characters surpassing his spreadsheets, Clorinde is a top 5 dps.
Personally I think citlali won't age well. Yeah she buffs all those Pyro DPSes and chaska (hydro ones r better off using Kazuha/Xilonen) , most of us won't have all those Pyro DPSes. And as for strongest teams go it'll keep on changing every 4-5 patch . I predicted Mavuika will make strongest dps when she wasn't even leaked to be a Dps . I'm predicting Citlali won't age well, Mavuika melt will still be insane top 2 team as Skirk replaces her for no1 team for DMG atleast.
@henshj9874 yeah common sense isn't so common nowadays. Look at you ... If you had some you'd reach similar conclusion instead of trynna be sarcastic. But we can't really expect intelligence from someone with Arle animated pfp now .can we?
I actually find it extremely unlikely that she won't age well. Simply being able to carry cinder city alone makes her very good character and hard to be completely overshadowed. Also providing an easy to maintain res shred to 2 highly meta relevant elements AND a shield is at worst always good. Add in TTDS or her signature and you just have very good unit overall. So at worst she'll always be good. Also, melt is SO DAMN GOOD that it's VERY unlikely that it'll be powercrept anytime soon and it's VERY unlikely that HYV will just release a strictly better melt enabler to replace Citlali. So for Citlali to start looking "bad", the entire current meta needs to be powercrept lol...
@@akiinkala9287 I agree with your views maybe I used harsh words but what I meant to say is she won't be as top tier in the future and upcoming patches as she is now . I totally agree she won't go out of relevancy. But many are comparing her to Furina. In that comparison Furina's flexibility would keep her in T0 even in Sneznaya and other T0 characters too meanwhile Citlali would face circumstances as dendro is facing rn .. no-one can doubt it's power but it ain't getting newer things. It will be even harsher for citlali. Talking purely for DMG perspective . She won't fall to t4 but definately 1 or 2 tiers below. This is something I standby even if other Citlali glazers get pissed like the bozo in the first reply with arle pfp. But I appreciate you keeping argument civil
Though I don't agree w/ many character placements here (like Nahida, Fischl, Lanyan, etc.), I would say, under the criteria that you made, you pretty much got a lot of characters in the right/fair spot more than the wrong ones. So good job.
Me watching this with my triple-crowned Kaveh... But seriously, Genshin isn't that hard. Build a meta team or two and then just invest in the characters you like! Mavuika may be the best DPS in the game, but I already have a cracked Arlecchino team and an even better Neuvillette team, so I refuse to be pressured into pulling for Mavuika.
Finally somebody openly admitting Mavuika is better than Arle. I also can't understand why people hate you for Clorinde, saying that she is crap is like saying the same for Arle, after all they both use the bond of life mechanics.
they have been brainwashed by dishonest content creators downplaying her during release , promoting thundering fury 4set as her bis set and aggravate as her best team which is flat out lies and missinformation.
No? Arle just deal a lot more DMG Arle is my hypercarry in my vape team and clorinde is my hypercarry in my overload Team I love both but arle does so much more dmg Her whole team just buffs her Up and i Deal 350k vapes with her(outside of abyss, in this abyss she deals over 450k with her highest vapes c1r1 My clorinde is strong but arle clears so fast that i can chill play with clorinde then because her dps is just a lot lower rn Both are great for me but their is a noticable gap Even when mauvika is stronger and melt is Arles best team rn I cleared each abyss side in arle, lanyan, bennet and yelan in under 25 seconds In my opinion, arle is rediculous strong and the gap between her and someone like clorinde is huge Jellows best clears with clorinde were ~50 seconds which is double the time and his clorinde is max power with the best team possible (my clorinde time is ~1:20) So idk, like i said, i rly like clorinde and i have 4! Teams with her but she is just not arles lvl in terms of power
For me as less spender almost f2p player, arle is more powerfull than mavuika, arle is dps per hit, my arle can one slash enemy with 100k, only one slash!!!, total dmg per rotation almost 1million, built her properly, but mavuika is nuke dps, only her burst make most of the dmg, but still around 500k per nuke, unless you have her higher constellation and sig weapon, so arle is more powerfull... and arle flexible and low Investment, mavuika team is premium rich team, for f2p arle is more suitable...
@@Wavecold2806 maybe you have convinced me. After all Arle can run Gladiator :D Maybe it's just me preferring the playstyle of Mavuika. After all I'm using Noelle in all my teams hahah way too OP teams are boring...
I guess in their ideal teams or smth?? Citlali in forward melt teams (mav and arle) and furina in a team with high fanfare gen (neuv) In this case melt teams have the higher dps ceiling ig
I think a major problem now, for me and some older players is like Ayaka is in T2 but there are a lot of older players who have her at c6 because of the year long banner during covide, so now it would be foolish to then pull for a character in a higher tier because you aren't going to get as much in return.
The only bit I disagree with is navia since her placement seems to be mostly due to the whole Mavuika grey area. At least with clorinde she can stand against natlan team creep on her own merit but navia is just kinda there with a convenient r1 and no c1 competition. (Her c1 isn’t very good lol)
Trust me, Navia is outdoing a lot of characters of the same tier thanks to her frontload, and she isn't bothered by elemental auras at all at the opposite of other characters. Her Bis team als run a native 56% geo res shred so i usually kill shielded targets without even caring about breaking those
@@lafeechloe6998 yes I have navia I’m aware she’s good but she cannot beat my chasca when both teams are allowed to use Mavuika. Can you beat my chasca? I’m not a whale lol. Live stream your navia in jellocord
Same thing with me , a got her , built her , and never used her again , I thought she would eventually get super duper buffs with mavuika , but she didn't
Saaame. She is the only c1 r1 5* on my acconut because I loved her character. Against slowly moving unshielded enemies she is great... But her gameplay and difficulties vs shielded/highly mobile enemies are so annoying. Got chasca later,and I would honestly give away c1 mualani for 1 chasca constellation. Night and day difference ease of use wise.
@@madfrostttJust watch showcases, calculations and abyss runs Arlecchino obliterates Clorinde on all levels of investment I'm more bugged about Mualani not being top of T1 since she's got 2nd highest dpr in the game, even more surprising that she's lower than Navia even though Mualani nukes stronger AND faster
@@bocchiii. jello doesn't make this tear list out of nowhere, he tested and run every characters for the abyss and make all those calculations as well, so i dont think im missing out on those
@@bocchiii.Although she is definitely better than Navia but definitely not at the top of T1. She is clunky and her theoretical highest damage is hard to achieve. I need to reset quite some times because she refuses to land the hit on enemies that are right before her.
Well done! This is genuinely one of the best Genshin Tier Lists I've ever seen, plus I love that you consulted others to make this as accurate as possible. I also really enjoy that you've given your reasons for why a unit isn't higher or lower so that we can make those adjustments ourselves as the meta shifts
Ranking ororon and Xiangling over Nahida. Dude is smoking weed these days. Reminds me when he said Clorinde is a top 5 strongest DPS. He's becoming more and more unreliable every single day.
I don’t understand why people say water traveler is bad. My hydro trav does the same or more damage than my mauvika currently. Granted she’s lv 89 and c6 and mauvika is c0 and like lv 81-82 still. And while I’m not too high in abyss water traveler has always absolutely destroyed most world bosses.
I love Kaveh. I really want to make him work but i still have not really started with it because it is a lot of effort. shatterbloom is really interesting but you can't freeze a lot of enemies. So not really something for bosses.
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Nice Video Jello...
Could you pin this comment please?
@Barbra_Please_Barbra don't beg unnecessary
Furina must come home🙏
How are you gonna give us the character? Limão.
kind of surprised Yoimiya doesn't have aoe considering a lot of her parts in the story revolve around fireworks and explosions, lol
This has been my complaint since her release.
This was the thing I complained about in the survey section long ago during her kit leaks and they never fixed it even after/before release, sadly.
Technically her burst is her AOE.
@@davewong73671 yes but a small AoE.
@ Yep. That's why I said "technically". In practice it's pretty negligible.
There are just so many ways to judge how good a character is. I’m so tempted to make a website that lets you view a tier list that incorporates only and all factors you wish to include, such as investment, best teams, overall value, etc. instead of a 1d list, you could have a 2d graph, or even a 3d one. Making animations for switching between them would be so fun.
That would actually be interesting tbh
I yearn for the days when we have a proper exploration tierlist. People keep sleeping on Wanderer because they've never tried him with movement speed buffs. They don't even have Lost Prayers.
@ nowadays that tier list would come with the annoying caveat: Are you in Natlan?
@ The crazy thing is that exploration kits are so rare that even outside of Natlan, the Natlan cast still sweeps the top tiers of the exploration tierlist. But then you put them in Natlan and it's crazy to even use anyone else, unless you've got a dedicated movement speed team for Wanderer. (And even then... Chasca exists.)
Yeah...
I came in the game at natlan so my best units are def natlan and the phlogiston bs baked into their kits is such fkn bs. Were gettimg cheated frfr @Bliss467
dendro mc in the same tier as qiqi is criminal
Edit: for everyone in the replies, I’m not saying that dmc is good, but unlike qiqi they can be used in some teams and deserves to be at least one tier above qiqi, who barely can heal and doesn’t even generate energy
True
Dmc is a straight up downgrade over Yaoyao and collei, I don’t think there’s a single scenario you would prefer dmc over them. Being a simple dendro applier with minimal dpr and minimum kit utility isn’t going to get a good ranking
@@pakattac i literally use Nilou with the f2p DMC team, it is great in wave situations
@ I don’t think dmc should get a good ranking, I’m saying dmc should not be in the same tier as a character that can’t generate energy and has the worst downtime of the entire game
@@math-sonic yes but tier lists are comparative, any team in this game could work but that doesn’t make it good. Dmc is still by far the worst option out of the 4* dendros
Hydro Traveler now the most powerful DPS until they patch out his burst glitch
actually try releasing lantern and then do brust and see the magic
Hoyoverse will soon give us 100 apologems for fixing that glitch. lol.
Well technically, you cannot use items in the abyss and this tier list is based off of spiral abyss🤓☝️
You fool, this only takes into account Spiral Abyss.
@@milflord3345 I hope when they patch it that they fix hydro traveler. I love using the traveler, currently trying to double crown pyro mc. I was devastated playing hydro traveler, it’s so ass 😭
i do enjoy how Lan Yan, Kazuha, and Sucrose are characters that fulfill the same role yet actually have very notable differences that change based on the desired team and/or the enemies.
Nahida below Emilie 😭
The poor radish needs some new teams ASAP
Burning receiving a lot of love was needed to be fair
Yeah its a bit sad that nahida's most "meta" teams are just budget emilie things now :(
I just saw nahida mauvika mualani zhongli team ..it was incredible
@@Lucyx8958 to be fair mavuika in any team is incredible
Gonna have to hard disagree with Jello on this discrepancy. Emilie does 0 buffing, whereas Nahida has the biggest EM buff in the game. Burn vape Mualani hits stupid hard, and she's still BiS for Nilou.
Nahida herself can do decent damage when people actually build her. Same tier at worst, definitely never in different tiers.
I might not agree with all of your "hot takes", but I really appreciate how you aren't blinded by older characters past performances and your willingness to look at their place in the meta currently when you rank them
And I mean it both ways - when a character is suddenly way better like Diona, and when a character is not performing as they used to like Kazuha
He's instead blinded by flavor of the month which is just as bad
I myself haven't used kazuha since long time.
@@rainofkhandaq6678
tf you mean Flavor of the month?
He means jellos ranking will keep changing along with new abyss and with new and old characters being how useful they are now in the current abyss (which is a pretty stupid way to rank characters). Characters which will stay relevant for longer times to come, are the true meta like neuvi, arle, Kazuha, xilonen, nahida etc not the characters which help you clear the current abyss the fastest.
P.S mavuika with her BIS teammates will be among one of the best dps in the game for a long long time, she can be considered meta too with her BIS. She with her BIS will be the benchmark for dps in the future. @@RAMI-m4w
@@RAMI-m4w Abyss
I'll agree that Hyperbloom is a 1.5-level team, but I think for Nahida specifically, she deserves at least T1 because 1. she takes dendro teams to the next level (literally my alhatitham team pre-5.1 is not something I want to think about anymore), and 2. she can be used elsewhere. With Xilonen, you can now use her as a dendro applicator in the top aggravate teams which is good because she's got way more than anyone else AND can be a good sub-DPS over someone like Baizhu or Kirara. I think the second point also kind of applies to Alhaitham, but moreso that he's so good with just his weapon and and good artifacts, that he can very much carry even mid dendro and electro supports for him.
Plus, and this is more of an irrelevant tangent, I think he's one of, if not the best, first DPS a new player can get. Because while he has somewhat specific combos, you can still get a ton of value out of him with unoptimal play, and because of that you can "learn" Genshin very well while piloting him. Like, practicing Alhaitham rotations was great for me because I could learn how optimization in Genshin works, while also losing little value if I ever messed up or deviated. Again, not really relevant to the meta discussion, but something I still think is worth considering. And I'm hoping we get what is essentially a Dendro Kazuha/Xilonen, or even just a Natlan dendro team buffer (preferably electro) so that they can use the scroll set since Deepwood already provides pretty good RES shred, and then we might get them back into T1, maybe even T0 levels (but probably not).
TL;DR HOYO DON'T LET DENDRO BECOME THE NEW CRYO!!!
THIS!! THIS IS THE LEVEL OF YAP I WOULD LOVE FOR MY MAIN ALHAITHAM! This is pure dedication!
This was a really well edited video jello, ur attention to the graphic designs was so good..beautiful layout and love the way you made it visually appealing to show the tiers and how you revealed them
I truly believe eula just needs a dedicated support to be relevant and maybe even high-tier again
grass is green ahh
No lol no amount of buffs can save her
Switching from eula to arlecchino was like a breath of fresh air for me
So, just for fun, Zajeff did a video where he computed Eula DPS assuming she'd hit pyro instead of physical - and hence could use the best supports including Citlali. The result is that Eula would still only do 3/4 the DPS of Mavuika, on top of all the quality of life issues she has (Mavuika has front-loaded damage, Eula is backloaded). Summary: no, there is simply no way Eula can be salvaged.
I still use Euoa but she lacks teams, physical is really rough etc. She needs to attack faster, while poping her brust more.
Me whose clinically insane: "So what about my main DPS Barbra?"
T0, and would push Neuvillette and Mavuika down to T1
i'd say T4, i can't figure out a way to get her above like a razor level of damage. the best i've figured out is dehya bennett emilie, you get bennett boosted emilie damage, vape a couple of CAs then switch to normals to recover stamina and proc bloom cores for dehya to burgeon, so it's like a half dps half driver type of situation
MINNA GAMBATENE!!!!
Great formatting/editing/etc on this one. Easy to understand, minimal chance of players getting confused which is always really nice for a tier list. Loving the content
Xiangling Hyperbloom was probably seeing high usage due to the Ice and Nightsoul shields of this domain and with Nahida she can shred them w burning.
Just a quick huh? With Xiangling doesn't that become Burgeon? Or am I missing something.
@@logikx1325 shes only on the team to bream the shields, hyperbloom is strong enuff for a 3 man core
I can attest to this, can clear the abyss with: Nahida, Xingqui (c6), Kuki, Xiangling althought their builds are pretty good but all have 4star weapons
Arlecchino not being in tier 0 feels wrong. Like Superman and wonderwoman ran off and left batman behind. 😅
Lol😂
Not to mention shes better than neuvilette at c0 with much more teams flexibility and even more f2p friendly
@@bryanadams4981 calling arle more flexible than neuv is kinda wild also neuv has better aoe, range and insane self sustain which arle just doesn't have
@ISMythix if you think neuvilette have more teams than arlecchino than you're just clueless also i literally clear abyss 12 with solo arlecchino she does have enough self sustain unlike neuvilette who is almost unplayable without a shield neuvilette glaze is so beyond real ngl
Look at these 6 year old farts arguing who's a better character lmfao. My c6 qiqi solos all your pathetic five star kids.
I only disagree about :
Being a part of the best team in the game doesn’t make them the best character.
Well it doesn't, "best" is a superlative term, if said character isn't the best in the team itself how come would it be a "best" character Overall
@@Senseisbinah if you have a "best team" and then take the worst one of those characters out and it no longer is the "best team" then that makes said character you removed a "best character" even if they are worse than the others cause no one else can replace them. If instead you can replace that character with anyone and still have it be the "best team" then that makes every character be at the same level and since they are all part of the "best team" they are all equally "best characters". The final option is that not everyone can be slotted in and only some of them can be, but if you can be slotted into the "best team" and still be the "best team" then you are a "best character". In this case the "best team" is Mavuika, Citlali, Bennet, Xilonen but certain content requires certain things so taking out one of them and putting in another can still be considered a best team so anyone that can be slotted into said team is a best character, thats just what being "best" is by definition.
If Mavuika didnt exist in the game then neuvillete would be the best dps but if Xilonen, Citlali and Bennet didn't exist Mavuika would still be the best dps in the game. Is Xilonen not the best character since she isn't necessary to make Mavuika the strongest, no because she provides much more utility to much more characters in many more situations. Mavuika wont always be usable if the enemy is immune to pyro for example. There are different considerations when it comes to "best characters" if you take up a slot in a best team and dont make it no longer a best team then you should be considered a best character.
True.
This video is basically how many 5 stars have been power crept by fontain and natlan 😂
lost to clorindes weapon when going for fathers weapon. i had saved alot so after getting c1r1 arlechino i did a few pulls on clorinde to see if i would get lucky and i did! absolutely love her playstyle really fun and shes defenitly good!
good luck for the wp pull, if you can go to c2, go for it. enjoy char that you love to play.
I'm just a Tighnari shill, but hearing that he's considered difficult to play is WILD to me, because he's like second comfiest for me to play right after Neuvilette (thanks to range/super quick shots that are not as bothersome as playing Ganyu or Lyney). Yae takes care somewhat of AoE on his teams, but yeah he shines in ST, even if he's not AS locked into it as Yoi is. He carries me through every abyss excluding this one specifically, but even in previous one, he was amazing. I wish people didn't sleep on him, especially since he's free to get and amazing on even a 3* weapon. To me Tiggy feels better to play than all others in Jello T3 (as a package deal with Yae), but I get why most would't ever argue to move him up. I just keep being positively surprised by him every time he just smashes through abyss making it easy for me.
The only thing I mostly disagree with is the label of "being carried by" because he isn't carried by any unit in particular, like others with Xilonen/Citlali or Furina or whatever else. He's the core of his teams, and he can be played with Yae or Kuki or Fishl or even double dps with Sethos, yes I cleared some recent abyss with that (Sethos at C0 lol), he doesn't even need Nahida, I treat her and Furina interchangably on his teams. He doesn't need a shielder even as a bow character, which not many other bows can claim. I know it's just in the flexibility/comfort part not much in power, but I think it's a big upside to this fox.
Edit. Nilou is funny because she either feels like S+ tier or mid tier wholly depending on the content, kinda like Venti but to a lesser extent. When there's no ass shields/inherent enemy aura infusions etc and at least 2 targets she slays again, her clears are absolutely hilarious when everyone just EXPLODES before you realize what even went on lmao. She's a lot of fun and feels like a cheat code for AoE.
+I'm Klee stan and player but even I wouldn't put her in same tier as Xiao, I think most characters are assumed at a premium team and Xiao slays even with C0R0 Xianyun. But yeah her C2/weapons make him go absolutely nuts. I mostly consider Klee as a support for my Furina, there she can comfily sit at T2, just on the other side of the table.
+I agree Nahida is not as opressively needed as she was before, but she's still more than hyperbloom. She's still a great support even for a burnvape Mualani (and that's what carried me through current abysses Natlan ass shields, thank you tiny cabbage 🙏)
when my computer wasn't working Tighnari was my mobile DPS. I could shoot pretty much anywhere and those arrows would hit the enemy.
Agreed, when he came out I was worried because he was bow but he’s so easy to use
@SnazzySitara Exactly 🥰 my favourite example is Arlechino weekly boss where you don't have to worry about what you're doing, Tighnari auto tracking arrows WILL hit her lmao 🤭 (and some other trackers can't! Most even from what I remember)
@LegolasTN Yeesss he's so quick pew pew pew, it really is a blessing!
Tighnari was my first 5*, and he carried me through Mondstadt, Liyue, and Inazuma, all the way to Sumeru.
It's because of how easy he is to play that I'm not so good with other Bow users that require accuracy.
I really should rebuild and start using him again with the current crop of OTT supports.
Happy to finally see Thoma's usefulness being recognized, he is such a useful and comfy character.
Hope more people will consider building and using him!
He's almost as important to Clorinde's Overload team as Chevreuse, because his collapsing shield keeps applying the pyro to be overloaded, while keeping Clorinde from being interrupted.
This isn’t changing a single thing lol
Which set do you use? And what stats
@ If used with Clorinde Overload he will usually be the one triggering Overloads, so you want EM and ER.
I'm using Favonius and Gilded Dreams, but you can use two 2pc EM sets or Noblesse as well.
Main stats ER, EM, EM and substats ER > EM > HP (and maybe Crit Rate for Favonius).
As general shield support I'd suggest Noblesse and you focus on HP instead of EM.
As one of the few Klee enjoyers, thank you for putting her T2, it melt my heart like she do with her bombs..
Me too
And now she's T3 on the downloadable list. Love her anyway, she was my first 5* back when she came out and will ever have a place in my heart. And she is cute as hell :)
@@Faranthiir There's a downloadable list?
If I could make one suggestion which is inspired by Prydwen's tier list for WuWa.
Add the expert tag.
The expert tag essentially means you can bump the unit up a tier if the player is skilled with them.
Might help you acknowledge the strength of a character while still reflecting where they are for most players.
Hope that is helpful, beyond that i watched the whole video and i appreciate the work that went into it plus the presentation quality and accuracy of the placings.
Have a good day! 😄
This would also reduce the number of hate comments from all the Mualani mains. Sounds like a win/win to me
I don't think there's a character that's hard enough to play that justifys the tag. Ok except Klee
@@MrSquishy0 childe maybe? childe international actually requires some level of effort and thinking in its rotations which is more than what can be said for 90% of the cast.
Genshin has way less skill expression than wuwa
@@newfinnuckpower crept by mualani and mavuika speedruns
SPOILER BLOCK!!! 🛑🛑🛑
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? spoilers for what , a tierlist ? its not a movie lmao
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Genuinely
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The fact that you had the opportunity to put Ganyu and Keqing next to each other, but didn't, is a war crime.
i love the way youve organised your tierlist! And its exciting watching as u go up the tierlist, its like a countdown 🥰🔥
I love the hsr tier list vibe here. It's a nice concept
and I hate the HSR style of powercreep (someone got directly powercrept 5 patches after release BEFORE even a rerun), makes me wonder how worse it could become SIMILAR to HSR's chaos powercreep in the future
@@wuru-ivur that came out of nowhere xd
(Don't get me wrong, I agree, but what does that have to do with the op's comment v:)
@@owoflux6025 yeah, you're absolutely right, 😅😅😅, a bit out of place, just saw HSR and my inner fear of the powercreep disease took over for a second
hsr is such a vibe killer , pls dont mention that in genshin videos ☺️
This is why I quit lol, I lost feixiao and my account was basically bricked for a solid 3 months for endgame modes, now it seems like even Acheron is startingto phase out of the viable category, it's very hard to keep up with the game as an f2p @@wuru-ivur
I forgot ayaka is a main dps, I've been using her with favonius and 4pc emblem as a melt enabler for arlechino and mauvika 😭
whats this arle team u use with ayaka? and can i see ur build, akasha or something like this with ur uid if u dont mind. i want to use my fallen off ayaka in my new arle melt
@@eraseyoursoc1al I suspect Ayaka might be C4 for the def shred. The duration is not long enough to get more than 2 melts which is way lower than most others. In most cases, you will get 1 melt.
i wanna say you burnt down the kitchen with this cooking but I can't even lie I kinda wanna try this lmao
OMG I am using that too. Just with a sacrificial sword 280% er and good crit stats. Mavuika is having a field day with this build and her burst comes back in no time too..
As someone who doesn't play for meta, I'm feeling pretty happy as someone with a strong Mualani team and a strong Gaming team.
Mualani is 2nd strongest dps so you're still playing meta
Mualani is one of the best characters in the game. What do you mean by 'doesn't play for meta'?
Mualani is one of the best dps damage wise and same with gaming
I think people forget that arlecchino in all of her attacks goes towards the enemy and even in her third NA she pulls enemies closer. It increases her viability as a melee dps.
I’m pretty sure jello took everything into consideration, especially towards the higher tiers
yes sure, but she is nonetheless still below neuv and mauvika, with EVERYTHING considered
Remember when al-Haitham was considered top 3? Limão@@rickiema
@@leonardoalvarenga7572it was crazy that ppl still had him in the “big 3” at the end of fontaine
I like how simple she is to use especially on mobile. Just want a shield on her.
Good list! I like Navia a lot for the universally good job vs any elemental shield so she works well against any normal elemental shields, as these Natlan shields have dropped her down in abyss for me, but I can see the mavuika/navia triple nuke, and I want to use that at some point.
Navia tends to get the job done while being gorgeous and she still works fine on the first side this time around!
Cant wait to see sigewinnes ranking, im so excited to pull her yayy
i don’t think she’s gonna be that high but who cares about meta
Sigewinne is atrocious. I would choose to use Qiqi instead and that's saying something.
Meta wise shes the worst one i think, one of the worst characters in the game overall, but if u like her just pull her, gets the job as a healer done
lemme hold ur hand while i say this 😪
The One Below All (but Aloy)
NOTE: I've decided to "un-order" the entire tier list. so T1 is no longer ordered. Within tiers ordering is so enemy, meta, and team dependent, it's more accurate to just leave it unordered.
- Btw Emilie doesn’t do double fischl damage that was hyperbole I meant to cut that out.
- move klee down one tier
Tbh your not wrong fischl damage with bennet is Emilie’s raw damage, plus her burst damage is huge
Best dps is hydro traveller
Nice video !
Not too important, but it seems you didn't talk about Geo Traveler
As one of the crazy Fischl fanboys along with the likes of Flip, its fine so long as you meant it as a compliment.
ah yes, the annual "tier lists phase" for content creator
Putting Lan Yan above Kazuha and Sucrose is wild
Agreed with almost everything else :)
well he pretty much explained why
Yeah his grouping has been completely useless and the vv buff can be given by other characters as well, his dmg buff is something but lanyan/sucrose give Thrilling tales+ EM , plus lanyan gives the strongest sheild with cons
you should watch his video comparing these 3 characters. he has explained and proven everything
I wouldve traded by level 90 1000 em kazuha for a xilo anyday. Bro has fallen off
A Shield,TTDS,VV,80 em buff evenything sucked into one character so i guess there's your answer
Rosaria is crazy fun as a "more on--than-off dps" thanks to her short E cooldown. I use her any chance I get.
Probably the most accurate tier list we have atm.
I've been playing since day 1 without any breaks and I'd honestly not change that much about it.
"this where i start making people hate me"
-- proceeds to spit absolute facts
I'm curious as to why Electro traveler is considered T5 on field when it's kit is clearly designed for off field (probably T4).
Skill is for funneling energy to party members and burst is like Raiden skill. It's entirely an off field movelist.
Full ER build's Burst can be used for procing Superconduct, Aggravate, or Electro-charged for Ororon players with a hydro on field.
Full EM build's Burst can be used for hyperbloom or chevreuse overloaded. I'd say they're the third best traveler after Pyro and Dendro but they're just overshadowed by Fischl and Raiden in terms of damage and energy generation so they never got their time.
He's a battery that needs a battery, that Will tell you how good he is 💋❤️
His dmg isn't that good and his application is the slowest so yea, no wonder he's down there
@ He's not an on-fielder though is what I'm getting at so it is actually a wonder he's down there as T5 main dps.
None of the travelers have good damage and only dendro has good application. They aren't meant to be damaging characters.
@ You're supposed to build EMC with 200%+ ER and they funnel energy to the team so they definitely don't need a battery with that much ER.
@@ElimiNathanYT sister have you used electro MC before ?? Cause them only needing 200% is such a BS statement
I'll only ever pull for a character I like, but since dumping 500 wishes (F2P) on a Dehya I don't use, I've decided that I'll still only pull for a character I like - but as long as they'll be useful on my account.
This list will help me make better pull decisions, even though I know which upcoming units I want.
I think it's very healthy to strike a balance between how much you like a character and how useful they'll be to your account. I have the goal of becoming a Wriothesley main, and hence pulled Shenhe from the Chronicled Wish banner, not because she's the best support in the game, but because she's one of the best supports for Wriothesley on a good number of his teams. She supports my favorite, and that's why I picked her.
I bet peoples tried to deter you about Dehya but you plugged your ears
You are correct to do that imo. Still you can pull units you dont dislike if they help your fav units to be stronger. I dont like DJ Xilonen but I got her for my abyss clears as an option for my fav dps.
Not using her is your problem, with that ammount of pulls she can clear just fine.
Or just use her in a support role.
I'm pretty sure we knew she was garbage before you even had the chance to pull for her, that's your own fault
Kinich's team with Mavuika is like that one group member who changes the font of the presentation at the very end.lol
ma boi diluc with the wildest rollercoaster tier lists
Thank you for standing firm on your beliefs regarding Clorinde, it's ridiculous how much of a smear campaign has been thrown at the character. She's amazing, that simple.
Hes biased in the same way you are lol.
I'd agree with T1, I don't know if she's top 5 though. To me, Navia, Clorinde, Hu Tao, and lowk Alhaitham are right around the cusp of T1 and T1.5. I'll admit to being an Alhaitham apologist, but considering he's kinda the only Spread/Hyperbloom DPS (I consider Clorinde as hypercarry that just happens to be usable in hyperbloom bc of her element), his personal damage is the second biggest damage increase to hyperbloom only behind Nahida, and he is very easy to build and play. But, again, he's probably the lowest of the 4 I mentioned, but if we get an off-field scroll user that can also buff dendro reaction damage, we're so back and idc what anyone says I will only see him as T1 at the lowest. Like I consider all the Natlan DPS as better than her, with only support scroll Mavuika, not Dual DPS.
No matter how much you want to glaze Clorinde she is NEVER beating Mualani or even Kinich/Chasca
Mualani has 2nd highest dpr and dps in the game and has multi target as long as targets are close
Kinich and Chasca are single target but their dps is so high them not having aoe becomes a non issue
Dump Clorinde down to top of T1.5, put Mualani at top of T1 or just T0 between Mavu and Neuvi
@@bocchiii.Yep, the only thing why they always put Mualani down is her playstyle. Everything else is 2nd best. 1st is obviously Mavuika.
@@mapekalianhna4986 To be fair if you don't use Mualani a lot she is kinda unreliable. Took me a few weeks to learn her quirks enough to not have her be "reset impact" as Jello says. But it is possible to stop missing with practice and when you do......she gives Mav a run for her money on effective dps.
It is by far the most complete tier list i've ever seen on youtube. 55 minutes just felt nothing to me. I may have some minor disagreements with you but that's ok, because these kind of tier lists are very subjective.
For example, I THINK zhongli doesn't belong to tier 1.5 and he should go down to tier 2 or GAMING is Mid character to me (even at C6) and ...
There is an ancient chinese proverb that says: " you see jello's video, you click on it"
Thank you ❤
13:07 I’m a Yoimiya simp but not a Yoimiya glazer, there’s just never going to be a reality where she’s good. Her kit has too many flaws and just poorly thought out game design, and even when Hoyo gives her new teammates, they just end up benefiting the likes of Hu Tao, Arlecchino, and Mavuika more. All that said, always play your mains, and I’ll be doing just that until this game’s over or I quit lol
It still shatters my reality that Hoyo gave Yoimiya, the fireworks explosion girl, virtually no AOE in her kit.
@ At least with Dehya the concept of a bruiser is present in her kit, but I have no idea what Hoyo was smoking when giving her a huge fireworks burst that can so easily miss because the AoE is just that small
yoimiya got a breath of fresh air with citlali and this has given her room for improvement through citlali constellations , she isnt bad at ST , just heavy competition by the other pyro carries 🤗
I frequently think that I pulled no pyro dps until mavuika and then I remember my lonely Yoimiya. I farmed Shimmy for so long that I ended up with a stupid strong XL that eliminated my need for any pyro for years.
Honestly, I love the tierlist. I have some reservations towards Mavuika but overall I agree with everything, that's how the game feels to me, too.
And I love that you separated DPS and supports, that makes things much more clear.
I have no complains about placing clorinde that high up, the only thing that bothers me is that he says that shes better than kinich, Chasca, Navia and MUALANI, if only he made a disclaimer that tier 1 wasn't in order (aside from alerchino wich it's clearly better then the rest) I would have agreed with everything in this video.
Arlecchino isn't better than Mualani
Mualani has ~>dpr, if anything she should be in T0
Then put Arlecchino in T0.5
And dump down Clorinde to bottom of T1
@@bocchiii. Right mualani is clearly T0 DPS...
The fact that she still performs great even with f2p supports like sucrose mona candace xiangling kachina,
neuvi or mavuika cant Even imagine to perform that great with f2p supports... especially neuvi, he needs best supports from the entire game to be on meta...
And again, her peak potential is way way more than neuvi and even surpasses mavuika..
Although this list was for c0r1, but if we count higher investments too like c2r1, c6, even there mualani is clearly very strong, such that even her c2r1 performs equally or slightly better than c6r1 of OTHER META DPS...
Her AOE is more than arle or equal to arle at least (she does 5 missiles)
I dont find mualani inconsistent, you just need to be avg lvl skilled genshin Player not a brain dead neuvi user and that would be enough..
And even neuvi is sometimes cringe to play at c0 bcz of lack of interruption resistance which is not the case for mualani..
And mualani DPS is way way more than arle and neuvi, only mavuika is up there to compete with her ..and even mavuika outside of her best team dont have that much dmg per rotation as of mualani...
And mualani mavuika team is also very strong..
@@Osman_Khan_003 Mualani above Mavuika is a reach
You average 3m dpr with Mavuika and 2.4m dpr with Mualani at high levels of investment, they're close but Mualani is nowhere near to outdoing Mavu, at best she gets really close
Other than that she's easily top 2 dps in the game and her c2 does in fact still have 2nd highest dpr in the game
@@bocchiii.Bro what's the team dps of mulani on C0R0 best team
@@bocchiii. In mualani best team, her dpr is about 3M too... mavuika scroll, xilonen petra, c1 mona instructor and c0r1 mualani...
Mavuika DPS is Higher than mualani, only little bit Higher...but if we give r5 Widsth to mualani, and gets the buff either of EM or dmg bonus which we end up getting the most of the times, then mualani will even surpass mavuika DPR...
And outside best team, mavuika dpr falls off a cliff but mualani doesn't...thats why i said with even f2p supports mualani is broken but mavuika and Neuvi are not
And this is when mualani only uses xilonen from the best supports, mavuika on the other hand, all her supports are her best supports...
The day mualani gets one more broken support made for vape (just like we have citlali for melt) she will eventually be on the same dmg ceiling as of mavuika best team ..
Though outside best team, mualani is already ahead
I left a dislike for the Nahida placement but then switched it back to a like for the Clorinde placement
I agree with you with clorinde. She's easy to use and doesn't use meta supports. I can breeze thru the past abyss in 1 run using clorinde as my 2nd team. My other team is mostly double hydro Neuvilette.
Future me does he downplay the prinzessin
kinda
Yeah shes top 10 real
yes, she literally drives all overload chevreuse teams and all aggravate dendro teams. she's for sure above ororon
@@rickiemaI don’t really agree, as much as I love fischl what ororon lacks in damage he provides me in support. He’s an incredible scroll user for any electro teams and he provides aoe taunt which is good for crowd control so I think there on par
@@rickiemanot all of them though. You don't use Fischl in Raiden overload or Mavuika overload and Clorinde's vest overload uses Ororon instead.
Fischl's weakness in overload is ST which means you're not havign res shred for all the enemies you fight in AoE, and the overload knockback can often push enemies outside Oz' attack radius.
Fischl is strong for overload where you are facing bosses or elite enemies instead.
The amount of effort put in making this video is insane. Thank you!
Huge shoutout to all the creators, and of course, Jello! The effort put into this is truly incredible. The amount of work put in here solidifies why you are def S tier among Gacha CCs. 🙌🏽🙌🏽
I’d probably put Arlecchino and Chasca in a Tier 0.5 personally, especially with the c1 or r1 assumption. Arlecchino because of the gap between her and the rest of Tier 1 as you noted, and Chasca because what she lacks in damage she makes up for with godly amounts of comfort, flexibility and account value.
Her auto-aiming and flight allows her to ignore or cheese outright a ton of mechanics that are meant to make a fight more difficult or lengthy, her gameplay is Neuvillette levels of easy, she’s happy to deal with a LOT of more mid teammates that may drag other main dps characters down far harder(while also scaling with the meta supports very well), and her elemental damage mechanic means she can act as a wild-card for element checks in the Abyss. Again, ESPECIALLY at c1 where you can double up on a PEHC element without any major DPS loss.
Chasca imo is as slept on as you believe Clorinde is.
Well yeah c1 is pretty good const for chasca she can be a really consistent character on abyss and to the overworld she is really nuts
Agreed, I think she is the most underrated character since the launch of the game. I regret not pulling for her.
yes! this. with furina, citlali, benny? You would be hard pressed to find any content you will struggle with. need them on another team, fine with mona(TTDS), tankfei (p. amber) and ororon (HOCC)? dont have them?FINE! fischl, pyro traveller( HOCC), barbara (TTDS) it is then. still no? ok just put any PECH
Yeah he shouldve added a tier 0.5 even i as the biggest arle hater thinks she wasnt justified here
@@budjiibing2535legit
All Chasca needs to function is
A hydro slime, a pyro slime and a Cryo slime and she’s good
Bro has to calm arle mains down before telling them she's now second best 😂
They are the most rabid mains, so sadly it's needed.
yeah because arle mains are too busy complaining about their character getting powercrept and not actually realizing she is competitive and still very good even post mavuika release
@@AngeUshiromiya725 To be fair I still think Arlecchino should put out significantly more DPS than Mavuika and Neuvillette simply because of the fact that she is so damn squishy and her pulling her ultimate to heal actually results in a DPS loss. That being said I don't think she's weak or unusable - if played well, she does similar damage to Neuvillette, if not more, and that's already saying a TON. Her only downside is how squishy she feels compared to him.
@@GheistXin while it is true that in terms of just damage , she is stronger than neuvillete but ultimately loses on all other fronts ( ease of use , etc ) as for mavuika , its not remotely close bro , c0r1 mavuika has the same dpr with c2r1 arle , powercreep hit rly hard with this release and mav just makes everything else feel like ass from a meta perspective. This doesnt mean even in the slightest that arle isnt meta anymore , she sure is , its just that mavuika is the better pyro carry now
To be honest its fine if she's 2nd but she should still be T0 ngl😅
I really don't get the Clorinde slander here. She is extremely flexible, overload, aggravate, taser, HyperXilonen, all teams she can use, and use really well, with a wide variety of characters. Plenty of weapons she can use, 4star and 5star ones, easy to build.
No, seriously, I don't get why so many here are perplexed she is high on the list.
Because on release, certain dishonest ccs downplayed her and started making up weaknesses on her performance that dont rly exist, while glazing other inferior units
@AngeUshiromiya725 names ??? As of late I give cc's a lot less attention and my memory is not the best
@zente3003 if i speak i am in trouble
@@zente3003 Zajef slanders a lot and TGS were really lazy recomending TF or saying it was close to Whimsy. It's like recommending Crimson with for Mavuika it's works but you're losing a lot of damage. Then people wonder why their TF set, 4 star weapon and cheap Clorinde teams do no damage vs their fully decked out teams
@puma21puma21 I was using her with TF for a while, it did the job, but after trying to get some Whimsy pieces for testing, the difference is very noticeable, even on a 2/2 build
Honestly...
This is the best tearlist i have ever seen, to split on field and off field is just so helpful, also 5 star and 4 star investment is also on point.
100% Agree with all placements
It is officially joever when even Jello considers C0R1 as the investment baseline (for carries) now.
Thats reasonable assumption. Even as f2p you can pull for your fav dps weapons.
??? This is a meta tier list a lot of us who has played for years have cons and weapons at F2P. I don't have Serpent Spine or any of the BP weapons but I do have Homa, Thousand Suns, Key, Redhorn, Nahida's weapon, and Mistsplitter.
Once you play long enough you stop summoning for long periods of time and have plenty of primos
Pulling for cons and signatured is the most optimal things a f2p can do. The false myths of 'Oh you can clear with 4 stars and c0 5 stars' are straight up false. These rumours are spread by Old theory crafters like Zhajef who refuse to let go of the past where abyss was a joke.
@@noob.69sb You still can technically clear using those but you'll have a hard time. Especially the trend with Natlan Units getting powerful early constellations.
@keithcruz8932 Last abyss was borderline impossible to clear with 4 star characters even for the speedruners and experts with top 1% builds. This abyss, although a little bit easier is still quite hard. Not to mention most of the old 5 star carries are also having a hard time. I think it is best that f2p players amp up two powerful teams for abyss and pull for cons instead of new dps every patch.
Only thing shocking to me, is that fischl is below ororon and mona is so high
Mona works well with Arli and Mavuika - they do majority in their dps in the first few seconds.
@@ixirion Mona does not work WELL with them, she just works.
@@ixirionthat's true for mavuika but not arle lol
@ It is in fact true. Mona give 60% dmg buff for 6 sec, 15% vape bonus, TTDS, possibly NO. Arli dont vape too often so that another +. If you have c4 she also gives 15% CR.
I run Noelle on Marcheusse Hunter Set with Furina, Raiden, and Xilonen. Granted, that is three 5 stars, but that team works really well. I think at that point, she becomes tier 2.
People: don’t use sigewinne
Me: skill issue
bubble supreme
Joke btw hope yall having fun
that was corny
Sigewinne is criminally underrated!
@@kamoraavayuna7726nope she’s right where she belongs
@@kamoraavayuna7726because not many has the creativity with her. Sac bow and her passive is nothing to laugh at when used right, she is still the best off field c0 furina healer enabling higher ceiling for sub DPS.
30:56 Thank you for being the only CC to acknowledge Pyro travelor. He's very strong, best Travelor we had to date.
I play him with Codex as on field because that's what his kit suggest. He demands Citlali and bennet as a teammates. easily hit 370k ult with trash artifacts and once we get his c6 he'll do more damage with autos.
You e-Q with Citlali, then Travelor: Hold E -> Melt Ult and then Auto Auto...
best tier list
it would be funny if ppl after this vid gonna invest in flexible diluc with his 1 and only team
invest in diona
on-filed kokomi
mona - in the same tier as Nahida
Emile - i hope not only CC's pull her and play her
Latest abyss clears doesnt prove anything, coz ur tier list isnt just for 1 time use only
overall, good shit. Make more
Me waiting to see where he'll put off-field Ganyu:
its still shocking to me that you havent broken over 100k followers. You are one of the most thorough genshin content creators
Edit: okay i see why now, ur still on this chlorinde bandwagon. we love Keqing here, Sir
disliked, reported for harrassment, and doubling down and sending hate on twitter
the way he is pacing he will easily surpass zajef, TGS is still the best in terms of quality tho but he doesnt put half the effort as zajef and jello
Bro, just wanted to say thank you for your hard work. always entertaining and informative to watch. ❤
Great list! I appreciate all of the work you put into these tier list and build videos.
I feel like if you are counting C1 or R1 Mualani not making t0 makes no sense. C1 Mualani is currently destroying C6 characters.
I really wish I could justify arguing HuTao belongs in tier 1.....but with the either/or on weapon and c1 I can't. I still run her vape with Yelan instead of Citlali because I find Citlali/Furina incapable of maintaining consistent enough application for melt/vape given the speed of HuTao's strikes at 1N 1C Cancel (c2r1 HuTao). Arle is far easier to play, good gap closure on N3, no worries about animation cancels and easier enemy positioning to get solid AoE so I see the reasoning.....but HuTao is just more fun.
The fact that people are cancelling u in the community proves how ridiculous this community has become. Keep to your opinions
The fact that disagreeing with others opinions is called canceling in The community proves how ridiculous this community has become
Eula's damage being backloaded hurts her. Nothing will fix that.
Good tierlist for sure :)
Thanks, this tierlist has great value and may be really usefull, especialy when considering all the testing behind !
I really wanted a C0R1 DPS Sigewinne on this tier list 😔
The Mona copium is actually crazy.
mona arle or mavuika is goated
Mona buff u like her butts
Mona is a good 4th slot in a Mualani team because she barely applys hydro so she doesn't mess up vapes
Yeah, and Citlali exists. T1.5 is still too high.
Mona is a very powerful buffer for 1hit and guess who deals crazy strong 1hit?
There is definitely not such a big difference between Wriothesley Ganyu and Ayaka. They should all be in the same tier. Because all of them perform similarly. Especially in this Abyss they perform well against the Suanni and I would place all 3 of them in T2, but T1.5 could also be possible. But Ganyu definitely is not T3
Most of my favorite characters are low tier, so I gave up on meta quite a while ago. Still love to see the videos.
i sure hope the comments are peaceful and slur free
Mavuika is so strong, I can hit 1M melts WITHOUT Bennett.
Also you're right about Clorinde, one day people will see the light.
clorinde is strong but she's not that strong as you guys make her out to be, she just makes up for it with her flexibility and self sustain
@Qwerty-ns9yk if Neuvillette is a top 2 dps for his ease of use and his team flexibility despite quite a few characters surpassing his spreadsheets, Clorinde is a top 5 dps.
I hit 1.4 m Mavuika c1, 380k Raiden c0. That's 1 milion difference. Silence fallen
Personally I think citlali won't age well. Yeah she buffs all those Pyro DPSes and chaska (hydro ones r better off using Kazuha/Xilonen) , most of us won't have all those Pyro DPSes. And as for strongest teams go it'll keep on changing every 4-5 patch . I predicted Mavuika will make strongest dps when she wasn't even leaked to be a Dps . I'm predicting Citlali won't age well, Mavuika melt will still be insane top 2 team as Skirk replaces her for no1 team for DMG atleast.
Wow, you predicted that the Pyro God of War would be a DPS? We should listen to this guy he's clearly a genius ;)
@henshj9874 yeah common sense isn't so common nowadays. Look at you ... If you had some you'd reach similar conclusion instead of trynna be sarcastic. But we can't really expect intelligence from someone with Arle animated pfp now .can we?
I actually find it extremely unlikely that she won't age well. Simply being able to carry cinder city alone makes her very good character and hard to be completely overshadowed. Also providing an easy to maintain res shred to 2 highly meta relevant elements AND a shield is at worst always good. Add in TTDS or her signature and you just have very good unit overall. So at worst she'll always be good.
Also, melt is SO DAMN GOOD that it's VERY unlikely that it'll be powercrept anytime soon and it's VERY unlikely that HYV will just release a strictly better melt enabler to replace Citlali. So for Citlali to start looking "bad", the entire current meta needs to be powercrept lol...
@@akiinkala9287 I agree with your views maybe I used harsh words but what I meant to say is she won't be as top tier in the future and upcoming patches as she is now . I totally agree she won't go out of relevancy. But many are comparing her to Furina. In that comparison Furina's flexibility would keep her in T0 even in Sneznaya and other T0 characters too meanwhile Citlali would face circumstances as dendro is facing rn .. no-one can doubt it's power but it ain't getting newer things. It will be even harsher for citlali. Talking purely for DMG perspective . She won't fall to t4 but definately 1 or 2 tiers below. This is something I standby even if other Citlali glazers get pissed like the bozo in the first reply with arle pfp. But I appreciate you keeping argument civil
As long as pyro and hydro stay the best elements for on field/off field dps citlali is gonna be great
Though I don't agree w/ many character placements here (like Nahida, Fischl, Lanyan, etc.), I would say, under the criteria that you made, you pretty much got a lot of characters in the right/fair spot more than the wrong ones.
So good job.
Love your tier lists I was waiting for something like that
Me watching this with my triple-crowned Kaveh...
But seriously, Genshin isn't that hard. Build a meta team or two and then just invest in the characters you like! Mavuika may be the best DPS in the game, but I already have a cracked Arlecchino team and an even better Neuvillette team, so I refuse to be pressured into pulling for Mavuika.
Finally somebody openly admitting Mavuika is better than Arle. I also can't understand why people hate you for Clorinde, saying that she is crap is like saying the same for Arle, after all they both use the bond of life mechanics.
they have been brainwashed by dishonest content creators downplaying her during release , promoting thundering fury 4set as her bis set and aggravate as her best team which is flat out lies and missinformation.
No? Arle just deal a lot more DMG
Arle is my hypercarry in my vape team and clorinde is my hypercarry in my overload Team
I love both but arle does so much more dmg
Her whole team just buffs her Up and i Deal 350k vapes with her(outside of abyss, in this abyss she deals over 450k with her highest vapes c1r1
My clorinde is strong but arle clears so fast that i can chill play with clorinde then because her dps is just a lot lower rn
Both are great for me but their is a noticable gap
Even when mauvika is stronger and melt is Arles best team rn
I cleared each abyss side in arle, lanyan, bennet and yelan in under 25 seconds
In my opinion, arle is rediculous strong and the gap between her and someone like clorinde is huge
Jellows best clears with clorinde were ~50 seconds which is double the time and his clorinde is max power with the best team possible (my clorinde time is ~1:20)
So idk, like i said, i rly like clorinde and i have 4! Teams with her but she is just not arles lvl in terms of power
For example with arle i need like 4-5 Basic atks for a weekly Boss
With clorinde i need 1 or even 2 rotations
For me as less spender almost f2p player, arle is more powerfull than mavuika, arle is dps per hit, my arle can one slash enemy with 100k, only one slash!!!, total dmg per rotation almost 1million, built her properly, but mavuika is nuke dps, only her burst make most of the dmg, but still around 500k per nuke, unless you have her higher constellation and sig weapon, so arle is more powerfull... and arle flexible and low Investment, mavuika team is premium rich team, for f2p arle is more suitable...
@@Wavecold2806 maybe you have convinced me. After all Arle can run Gladiator :D Maybe it's just me preferring the playstyle of Mavuika. After all I'm using Noelle in all my teams hahah way too OP teams are boring...
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Can't understand Citlali > Furina. Otherwise, it's a mostly decent list.
I guess in their ideal teams or smth??
Citlali in forward melt teams (mav and arle) and furina in a team with high fanfare gen (neuv)
In this case melt teams have the higher dps ceiling ig
Citlali increases the best team's damage ceiling and even replaced Furina in some teams
I think a major problem now, for me and some older players is like Ayaka is in T2 but there are a lot of older players who have her at c6 because of the year long banner during covide, so now it would be foolish to then pull for a character in a higher tier because you aren't going to get as much in return.
Never thought I’d see the day Kazuha dropped from the top tier of supports
The only bit I disagree with is navia since her placement seems to be mostly due to the whole Mavuika grey area. At least with clorinde she can stand against natlan team creep on her own merit but navia is just kinda there with a convenient r1 and no c1 competition. (Her c1 isn’t very good lol)
Trust me, Navia is outdoing a lot of characters of the same tier thanks to her frontload, and she isn't bothered by elemental auras at all at the opposite of other characters. Her Bis team als run a native 56% geo res shred so i usually kill shielded targets without even caring about breaking those
@@lafeechloe6998 yes I have navia I’m aware she’s good but she cannot beat my chasca when both teams are allowed to use Mavuika. Can you beat my chasca? I’m not a whale lol. Live stream your navia in jellocord
navia is great just not t0 lol
@ she’s bottom of T1 that’s more fair.
He specifically stated that he is not considering mav duel dps because it messes up things. Do you not have listening comprehension skills?
I regret getting Mualani. Her play feels slow and damage never adds up. I've invested a fair amount into her, too.
Same thing with me , a got her , built her , and never used her again , I thought she would eventually get super duper buffs with mavuika , but she didn't
Saaame. She is the only c1 r1 5* on my acconut because I loved her character. Against slowly moving unshielded enemies she is great... But her gameplay and difficulties vs shielded/highly mobile enemies are so annoying. Got chasca later,and I would honestly give away c1 mualani for 1 chasca constellation. Night and day difference ease of use wise.
You missed off field Ganyu. She works so well as forth member in Mavuika team
She has a good aoe, and… thats pretty much it, her cryo application is not that good, nor is her damage, nor does she provide any kind of buffs.
This is so helpful for planning!
I love how every tier list I look at it just changes everything besides mavuika furina bennet neuvilette
Citlali, Mavuika, Furina and Bennet. After trying this team, I will like in other Hoyo game.
Im scared when my man made rankings, reality check 😭
I can't take arlecchino and chlorine in the same tier serious man wtf
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just asking tho, do you have chlorinde? if yes, is your chlorinde built? just be honest its okay
@@madfrostttJust watch showcases, calculations and abyss runs
Arlecchino obliterates Clorinde on all levels of investment
I'm more bugged about Mualani not being top of T1 since she's got 2nd highest dpr in the game, even more surprising that she's lower than Navia even though Mualani nukes stronger AND faster
@@bocchiii. jello doesn't make this tear list out of nowhere, he tested and run every characters for the abyss and make all those calculations as well, so i dont think im missing out on those
@@bocchiii.Although she is definitely better than Navia but definitely not at the top of T1. She is clunky and her theoretical highest damage is hard to achieve. I need to reset quite some times because she refuses to land the hit on enemies that are right before her.
Well done! This is genuinely one of the best Genshin Tier Lists I've ever seen, plus I love that you consulted others to make this as accurate as possible. I also really enjoy that you've given your reasons for why a unit isn't higher or lower so that we can make those adjustments ourselves as the meta shifts
Grouping is still most important in overworled. Remember Abyss is one time, explore is permanent.
This tier list is so well done it is almost unbelievable
Everyone asks who are the best characters but no one asks how are the best characters 😔
Ranking ororon and Xiangling over Nahida.
Dude is smoking weed these days.
Reminds me when he said Clorinde is a top 5 strongest DPS.
He's becoming more and more unreliable every single day.
Clorinde destroys any nahida team lil bro the hyperbloom dream is over
I don’t understand why people say water traveler is bad. My hydro trav does the same or more damage than my mauvika currently. Granted she’s lv 89 and c6 and mauvika is c0 and like lv 81-82 still. And while I’m not too high in abyss water traveler has always absolutely destroyed most world bosses.
I love Kaveh. I really want to make him work but i still have not really started with it because it is a lot of effort. shatterbloom is really interesting but you can't freeze a lot of enemies. So not really something for bosses.