048: IDAHO 4 --- What Role Does Passing of Roommate Play in Murders? --- Part 17
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NOTE: I am not saying that it was a random event a year after the fact - I am saying that the act of spreading the info that night (talking about it) was what angered the killer. The person on the receiving end of said info may have already known about it - what is key here is that it was being actively talked about and THAT is the part that the killer was not okay with that caused him to act. My opinion!! Just wanted to clear this part up.
What deck are you using, I love it!
It's quite possible that this person is someone well regarded/decorated in the community (I'm thinking a Police Officer or local government official). Some of the POs there have a military background which would explain how they knew how to get in/out of a crime scene undetected and without fingerprints, footprints, DNA, etc... Also, they would know their way around using a special military style knife. Since it was a party house, they could have either been inside for a noise ordinance or attending one of their several parties. This person could have been involved with one or both of the girls in some manner (sex, drug ring, etc...) KG seemed very mature with how she handled one of the POs in a recent video from August. Just my thoughts on this...
Agree
@@uptownqt I agree, Kaylee acted very mature, as did Madi on the phone on body cam video. And the boys, even though they came across as clueless lol, they were a still very polite and cooperative.
I've been feeling the same exact vibes here though. The Cleere situation and Ethans fight with steroid boy were well known by the frats I believe also and too closely related to be coincidental if you ask me, imo
I truly wish that bullies understood how much they affect their victim/victims. The sadness, pain, depression and humiliation. I talk to all my grandchildren about bullying and how it affects people. They understand it's not acceptable at all. Praying for the victims families and Hannah's family 🙏
Most children’s parents d9 it, and there children follow. 8th the parents job to d9 better
@@hairby_jayme2866 Can you clarify this comment?
That’s so good that you do that, Dana! Bullying is so devastating to the victims and it hurts the bully too, really. Your grandkids are lucky to have a grandma that cares so much!
Parents need to talk to their children about bullying. It's so damaging & lasts a lifetime. It's the parents job to make sure their kids understand that. Bullying is NEVER OK.
My 8 year old has severe autism and I'm absolutely terrified he'll be bullied.
I believe your reading is the most thorough one so far. It also includes elements from other psychics. I also respect how you take time to let things settle before you continue. Very responsible!
It's odd but when I went back and watched Kaylees parents interviews and with the Dad and a couple of her siblings when Jack D is brought up. The one sister and her mom take up for him but the Dad and brother are having doubts about whether he could be involved.
On " Harsh Reality " JS when walking with the girls after leaving the Corner Club.. JS says " They're going to get you for this Maddie ,for real." Then Kaylee asks " Maddie what did you say to Adam?" Maddie replied " I told him everything "... I personally feel like whatever was said to Adam that night involved the Fraternity...could very well be about the former roommate. What ever it was JS seemed to be warning Maddie and just maybe the reason he drove home right after splitting up from the girls that night. JS leaving for a 6 hour drive that late has always bothered me ,it makes alot of sense to me after hearing that statement to Maddie that night .He was worried and sure didn't want to be in town to make that drive right then. I think you are on to what happened that night ...ty for your hard work ,it is appreciated.
Yes. I agree. JS in the least knows much more and needs to be pressured by investigators.
Man ………….this
Must be some really bad 💩 going on between this group of young folks to have four people brutally murdered and if maybe Mattie was targeted because of what she said to Adam dame it we need Adam to speak up and he needs help doing so………..too………..!!!!!!!!!! 😔 come on Adam you need to tell the world 🌎 what Mattie had told you and very soon……….🙏🏻 and if Jack S over heard something then he needs to tell the cops so they can do the right thing by these young folks and their families who are hurting 😔❤️🩹🙏🏻
I did a reading and this is what I interpret about the energy of the killer:
Who is the killer? = 2 of wands upright
What was his motive? 7 of wands upright
What will get him caught? Ace of pentacles
What astrological energy is around the killer? The moon upright
He planned this and was watching them
. He travelled to kill them. It was about control, competition and challenge. He is from a prosperous family and there is a strong Pisces or Cancer energy around him.
I just wanted to tell you that I watch your new and older videos on the Idaho 4. You’re readings make so much sense. You’re picking up on so much that I’ve heard or thought myself. I think your viewers realize you’re not throwing shade on any of the victims you’re just trying to honestly figure out who was involved in this and you show how much you care! Thank you for sharing your readings.
Hello , well again your readings are amazing. I'm on board with everything you say ! Some of those boys could have been dealing drugs etcc. There's so many secrets in this town .. it's insane! They all know who did this and need to speak up . I hope you and your family have a Merry Christmas 🎄 and GO BIRDS 🦅💚
I think it had alot to do with dealing.
Drugs
Jack knew what Maddie told Adam and when they called he did not answer. I have felt he knows more. He made the comment that Maddie shouldn't have said anything. He knew there was going to be something happen over that conversation.
I just remembered Kaylees dad saying the police were being cowards. Hmm....maybe this whole thing is a lot bigger than what we see on the surface, and maybe politics are involved.
Love your readings!! I saw another reading yesterday discussing one of Hanna Cleere's family members possibly did a hired hit (possibly a drug dealer) and Hannah's father is a lawyer (which could be a good reason for hesitation from law enforcement) so I think these are also things you might be picking up in your readings. This is all allegedly of course!
Your son yelled Mom in your last reading, it gave me chills, in context to your reading at the time. Love your readings!
Ì agree this is all intertwined somehow and will prove to be worse than anyone could even imagine. These murders were brutal . There is alot more to this.
I also heard the person that was targeted Kaylee worked with someone else allegedly killed the other 3 for revenge for the death of previous roommate who killed herself.
Totally agree
Hanna father in public acts as though his daughter's death was completely accidental overdose with meds.
Also maybe Hanna saw something for money...
Sex for money?
Drugs for money?
Sex for drugs?
In my area ,sex for drugs is very very common with the young people.
It could be that he's better able to cope with that explanation vs. the alternative. I'm not suggesting that he's wrong, or in denial, as I have no idea if there's further information that could support his explanation. There's really no way to prove or disprove her intent at the time of the overdose, but either way, he's in an unenviable position.
Enjoy your time with your son. Have a happy holiday. You are deserving of all good things. God Bless
I read (one of the father's posts) that Hannah passed but wasn't found for a few days. When did she stop being roommates? Not being found for 3 days is a lot as a student
3 days!?
They gave her something to drink then left town and was found later
So what ever she saw wasn't good 😕 big deal sex it had to be ?
@@BijouxBee Yes, 3 days
I'm not sure that Maddie and Hannah were roommates at the time of Hannah's death. I thought I heard she had also moved off campus, so she may have been living alone
@@jlnriddick I’m now thinking that this x roommate might have been with child and maybe it was handsome Adams child….and Mattie maybe knew about it some how…..and told Adam Hannah killed her self over it and Adam didn’t want to be a young father at the time and so Adam could be the killer to shut Mattie and kaylee up for good……just sayin……..!!!!!!!!! And Adam lived right behind the girls house 🏡 so convenient wouldn’t you say……..😔
Thanks!
Your on a roll! Your getting ALOT of downloads, lately!
Remember taxi drivers commenting that everyone knew you could buy drugs at that house. He often waited while clients went in to the house of the hill. Both Kaylee and Madison blonde? Who’s mother was involved in drugs and sentenced???
Explains extra cash to buy her Range Rover ???
I was also wondering how she would be able to afford a Range Rover? Being a college student? I’m aware she had a job but RRs are hundreds of thousands of dollars here in Australia and working at a restaurant won’t cut the pay market to pay for one of those cars
@@BijouxBee it is a 2016. Not that $$$$.
22,000
Kaylee had 2 jobs. Plus just took a very nice job in Texas. She had $.
Xana's mom got caught on drug deal
A Christmas gift!! Another video from you!! Yeah. 😎 🎄
This is so plausible, it’s making so much sense.
That was one of the most interesting hours I've spent on youtube in a long time! I had no idea how cards were read, or how they were used to connect with spirit energy (I'm probably butchering the proper vernacular ) or even how a story comes together, but this was fascinating! I also enjoyed your very laid back, soft spoken demeaner, which is very calming. Do I hear a "Philly girl" in your accent, or a surrounding suburb? I grew up there. It's an accent I seem to notice immediately. Anyway, I was listening to someone on youtube last night who apparently receives information from "spirit" by being shown things in her mind (I guess) which she then interprets. I mention this because her entire session revolved around things and people connected to the death of Hannah Cleere and her family. Many names came to her that were members of Hannah's family, and she mentioned rather often that none of the information she was receiving was what she had expected to be discovering last night. If I'm not mistaken, you also mentioned something "catching you off-guard", or "throwing you off" about the cards being chosen as it relates to Hannah. Honestly, both your reading and the one from last night were so interconnected and so overlapping it was quite amazing! I have always thought these murders were either 1) revenge for the death of Hannah, or 2) the ex-boyfriend (Jack D), feeling betrayed by Kaylee for breaking up with him. Just wanted to share my thoughts, and thank you again for such an amazing presentation. Did I subscribe? Oh, hell yes!
Whoever did this is absolutely crazy and needs to be put away for good. ☠️
Omg! 05/23/23. You nailed it months ago! Family member suspected something. You rock girl. ❤️
You blow my socks off every time i "listen" to your readings. You are so very tallented. I have had :a feeling " from the very beginning about one of the "blond girls "
Imagine you found out your child not only killed 4 people, but so planned, brutally and in cold blood!!!!
I think a parent might have an idea something is not right with their child. I wonder if the parent/s were told about this or just have an idea this is their child? I know the look on JD face when Kaylees father looked at him ( Deer in the headlights). He looked scared.
I had the experience of an ex-friend killed another man in a drunk driving accident. I felt he was partly responsible. I felt my ex should of wrote a letter of aplology. The ex would not write the letter or take responsibility for his actions. This left me so heartbroken and defeated. I couldn’t shake this feeling for 2 years. I cried all the time for him. I realized my ex was heartless for what he done. I couldn’t talk any wisdom into him to do the right thing. I felt if I couldn’t make him a better person, I shouldn’t be in his life. I felt so strongly about right and wrong. I was brought with up strong morals. I walked away, and this situation left me devastated. Some people will never be sorry for their wrongs. And you as a person need to follow your inner truths. This situation not only affected 2 families, but the community beliefs of right and wrong. That is the only way to get through the situation for us as individuals to uphold justice.
I can't say enough about your readings! You are the real deal...I am amazed by your readings and the way you do them...I anticipate your next reading before you have even posted the video...Thank you for your great work on this case...
God bless, Merry Christmas to you and your family...Much Joy and love💜☮
I agree with you!! She is absolutely amazing at what she does!! Thank you Ashley for this and all you do ❤️
What a Beautiful comment...and I agree with you completely 💜🕯🔮
God bless you Ashley. I know this isn't easy for you ❤
How many deaths of young people have happened since this roommate self harmed Ferrell. Just wondering how pervasive is this dark situation?
I so enjoy your reads. An wishing you a v a r y merry Christmas an many blessings in the new year 👀😡🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻👀👀👀👀🥰🤩🙏🏻🙏🏻🤗🤗🤗🤗🤩🤩🤩
This makes more sense than anything I’ve heard so far.😮
Sounds like his mother is in danger to me! I am new to your channel but love your readings.
Thank you for that amazing reading! WoW!
I'm not being sarcastic lol How do you know when it's been an amazing reading? I'm trying to learn and don't know how to judge when things are good or for views..
Great read, omgosh it's spot on! ❤❤❤
I heard yesterday in a chat Hannah and Dylan the roommate were cousins
The roommates did the number 1 thing that so many do.
Like a husband calling the neighbor while he’s out of town. The neighbor goes to the home and discovers the wife’s body.
Omg. It just keeps getting deeper
I also wonder what the parents of these young women are going to handle/receive or take this information once it is all revealed.
I'd say they are super disgusted & angry that their slaughtered children are being defamed and spoke of as some vile, bullying hateful, murderous monsters. Just a thought.
Which is WHY ….. when Jack S said he told Adam everything, (and it was Jack, not Maddie) it was important for Kaylee to let Jack D know, that Adam knows everything now….. This is why both girls tried to call Jack D that night….. SO…… whatever it was that Kaylee saw or heard or walked in on, they knew they had to share it with Jack D, but never got the opportunity to because the killer did NOT want it out!! Maybe she walked in on two guys or heard them or found out their secret….. That’s the key with this, because whatever it was that Jack S told Adam, that guy didnt want it known, so he went to silence them…. Adam knows the secret
💯 correct someone not saying who was trying to hide a homosexual relationship that was happening
Interesting reading. Kept my attention. Makes you wonder about the other student found in the creek in April or May, after the other roommate in Feb. …..guilt or another shaming situation? I wonder it was common knowledge about background drug issue, if it exists, did White hoodie guy know there would be issues about passing info to Adam? Like, maybe a large group of people know about background issue? Not like they would have to be involved…just that it was common knowledge at the U. I hope this case is solved and all parties involved addressed to justice. It makes me Ill. So sad!
Forgive me for asking.....
But was someone in the house selling access to girls as their passed out?
Or was there some kind of operation going on that has to do with grooming women for videos?
Filming things being done to them etc?
Is that what Hannah walked in on?
My gut says it's on video.
All of it. Including the killings.
There's a camera/video somewhere. IMHO.
Apparently now we know it was removed by the cleaners.
I feel the same but I can understand why it’s not something she would want to speak about.
i agree, at least the unalives were taped. Mekcee spirit box: one male says hand me the remote
That theory doesn't make sense because if Maddie told Adam "everything" and "everything" had to do with girl's suicide then the killer would have offed Adam also but didn't.
I watched Jonathan Riches and he said she died from over the counter med and alcohol. I don’t know much about over the counter meds. I think one would have to take a lot. Maybe she didn’t know she was taking them. If you know what I mean
Maybe Adam is the dark haired male. Or his friend is the dark haired male.
No one deserves what happened to the 4.
The two blondes don’t give me complete innocence energy. They were up to something and they were passive aggressive in a nasty and mean way to people who they thought were less than them.
Allegedly. In my opinion
Obvious from their entire demeanor and social media accounts...
Who Flund Henna.
There four blonds.
I'm so confused now. What happened to the guy in the bar feeling insecure about his mother and then the girls brushing him off and that was the last straw and then he killed them?
Your awesome and thorough and thoughtful about your work and presentation
The method used to make money, the things that the former roommate walked in on - maybe drugs, but what about grades and/or exam answers for sale? Imagine how quickly comments about that would have spread - so many people would eventually be implicated (either paying or receiving money), and so many reputations ruined. High stakes, big money.
Bagging and weighing dope?
Very interesting. Love your channel & the way you look into what is happening.
Love your work, can you please do the Chris Watts case
Merry Christmas to you and your family. 🎅
You are so smart, so glad I found you
She passed in Feb of this year and her birthday would have been Nov 15th.
Has anyone else noticed the energy that's appearing on the door?
What if it actually was Jake S...the only one who hasn't been a focus out of all the J's???
It seems like many of the people in their inner circle could be connected and or have motive for this crime. In your last few readings it seemed like the Jack S. or Jack D. we're coming up. Do you think that has changed now with the information about the former roommate that passed away?
What is their motive?
@@jlorde8838 Revenge possibly, if it has to do with the former roommate who passed away.
HC 11 15 2000 - 2 24 2022
My condolences goes out to the family.
RIP HC 🙏🕯💗
If they knew they were safe from it, why didn't they go ahead and 911 while he was up there?
I read in comments somewhere that JS has an uncle working for the DA
Partying.. even the roommates would have to go potty maybe a couple times before falling asleep, was their bathroom in the first floor rooms, or would they have to go upstairs to bathroom. Thereby noticing something. Where's the bathroom for the first floor tenants?
He may have had something more to do with her death rather than a suicide,to shut her up. Look what he did to the 4, shows he is not above taking someone's life,to protect himself.
Ahhhh. The sisters lost their jobs bc of this. Yikes. The property loss.
Way to go. Merry Christmas to you and yours.
Bullies are like that when others are around.
Anyone notice the shadows over her right shoulder, on the door?
parents of this person that unalived herself should have an investigation on this case and hold those that led up to her demise responsinle for their bullying!!!! I hope they take action on this !
We aren't even sure that it's not just another rumor or assumption like, well.. everything else.
Anniversary of roommates death was in February 2022. Her bday was 11/15
Actually, that was the date of her death. There's been no anniversary yet. It happened 10 months ago.
@@jlnriddick typo exposed. "Was in" should have read as "is in 2023" oh well Shyte happens.
@@nevermind0001 OK, just corrected it. No big deal.
Could it be Hannah's brother for revenge?? There father is a lawyer. The lawyer(father) could have connections with LE.
I thought this from beginning. Just voiced it 2 days ago
Law enforcement wouldn't protect him because of connections.
Hannah Cleere died on Feb 24 2022. Same year as the Idaho 4 died Nov 13 2022. Please look more into HC case. NO ONE is talking about her death. She laid in those dorm rooms for 5 DAYS no one reported her missing or looked for her or found her PLEASE do a reading. More to this story. So incredibly heartbreaking
Some times the most beautiful people are just ugly on the inside.
Beauty is only skin deep, applies more often than not.
I feel a security guard was involved. From the beginning I felt a drug deal that went bad was also part of the events
I heard a police officer
@@tammyc1496 A security guard can be a former or off duty cop. Hmmm
A security guard from where
Why is he so troubled?!, since childhood he has had problems.
Has anyone else noticed the whiteness fading in and out on the left side of the screen? Hadn’t seen that before
Sun lite
Yes
So many possibilities! This town has had I believe 8 young deaths in recent months.... I believe it all may be connected. Drugs, frats, sororities.....HC's brother may have wanted revenge but there is so much depth in this case.... I don't think it was him.
Wow your show really rocks love it
Happy holidays. Good reading 🙏🙏💕💕
This was a party house above my imagination!
Does the Greek Life involve an oath of silence?
I think the family of the girl who passed away wants to leave it in the past. They don’t want to talk to anyone.
Blonde woman card freaked me out. So it was Maddison or Kaylee taunted hannah? I could see her family wanting revenge... we can understand that Maddie and Kaylee were not angels just because they were murdered.
They’re not the only blondes living in Moscow or in that house …
Could be the girls were lovers and she seen it
@@donnad5064 yes but from.what I understand maddie was hannah roommate and the rumor is Maddie was not nice to her. This is not something I'm just throwing out there. Look it up. So the blonde woman card was shocking, of ALL the cards to get... and for me validation of what the energy is referring to of who affected hannah so much. Like I said, just because someone passed away terribly does not mean they are exonerated from bad behavior that MAY have led to maddie and Kaylee terrible fate.
@@nevermind0001 I’ll be looking up what? That it was rumored to be one of the blonde victims? I have patience and will wait to see what the energy really means
@@donnad5064 remember no such things as coincidence..says the blonde woman, and suicided bullied girl..have a great day :)
perhaps the Mom is the link you speak of in future videos?? Sounds like the Chapin's. Their son Hunter was a member of the Fraternity same one as Ethan.
I am looking for this to turn out to be a shocker of what all led up to this murder tragedy. Drugs could definely be involved. Because, if Hannah walked in on a blonde girl and brown hair guy having sex. She wouldn't be bullied into keeping what she saw quiet. Unless, someone was married or someone who teaches at the College is involved or on the police force was involved. Because, sex goes on alot in college life. So, drugs more likely is what she walked in on.
I'd pull my child out of that school
Me too 😢 it’s like the High School from Hell! I went to College and we had rape problems and different sad things that happened but my lord!
On someone's random assumptions?
Great video.❤
Sorority escort ring and either LE knows or is involved or someone higher up at the university...???
What about the young man drowning?
Yes,this could be connected to
In Paradise Lake? Not a drowning as no water in the lungs. You have to be thrown alive into a body of water to prove a drowning.
She’s probably feeling unsafe if son knows she’s gonna dob him in. Also I read that he was adopted. They have 2 of their own kids and adopted two. One comes from Kenya ??that’s why they take so many trips over there
I think the mom should come forward. The dad will face charges for lying to LE.
When you say walk in ( like open the door to the house )or a bedroom or bathroom
Because it's got to be gross or embarrassing 😳
I’m wondering if DM was being bullied like the other girl was. That might be why DM was spared …By the killer! 🤐
Did you see the police body cam where they went to the house last September I think for a noise complaint and one of the guys answered the door with zip ties on his wrists and they were tight. And then after that Maddie ended up coming to the door and talking to the police. So weird.
I believe someone handed the officer a cell phone and the officer spoke to Maddie over the phone from a party at another location. She actually wasn't at the home (none of the roommates were home).
Freaks me out a bit. I keep seeing shadow behind you and towards the cabinet. ..or maybe you are just in front of a window and a tree is blowing in the wind and casting a shadow. 👻
It’s not the parents fault what their son did.
It's called aiding and abetting if people know and don't come forward.
It's probably not their fault that it happened but it will be their fault if they continue to protect him.
Rebecca Scoffield professor at UI is suing a tiktoker for saying that she is involved in the Idaho4 killings. She has blonde hair.
Merry Christmas 💜🙏
Adam and Jack D are roommates.... whatever Maddie told Adam was probably also told to Jack D. Jack D was prob mad that Kaylee was leaving to TX, taking the dog..... moving on.
A certain spirit box has a lot of info that pretty much goes along with other videos Ashley has done re: Idaho 4. And, at the end, a male voice says,"Tell Jack I'm done!"
Hi 👋 you are dedicated and a beautiful soul. Merry Christmas and much love and light 🌟🌲
Could the mystery for the better in reverse be anything to do with Kaylee and Jack Decour??? Jack of ❤
Can someone plz tell me how the one roommate committee suicide? Was it a drug overdose?? I ask bc if it was, and if drugs had killed her, those drugs may have come from the killer..possible fetanyll laced drugs which kill ppl daily in the US🤦💔
Drugover does.
She accidentally took too many otc sleep aides is what her father has said. It's not even confirmed they were roommates, much less that these girls bullied her.
I'm so confused..can someone plz tell me who committed suicide?? I'm confused!!! 🤦🙆🤷
Hannah Cleere
Why do you think they waited 2 years to act and do something though if it has to do with Hannah’s death? I believe she died in February 2019. Why if Maddie or whoever the blonde hair girl was in as there, why if she hadn’t told anyone in 2 years did he think she talked now? Love your channel and Merry Christmas❤️
The Sicilians say revenge is a dish best served cold
I believe it was this year?
@@Bzzzzzzzz535 I'm Sicilian. And yes. It's true.
She passed Feb 2022
Hannah died February 2022
Hi hon..just found your channel..so glad it popped up! GREAT reading!! Are u in NY? Love your NY accent 😁Thank u for sharing your amazing gifts with all of us!! How many yrs have u been reading tarot and how did u learn?? I love to hear the stories of how ppl learn to read tarot! I want to have that gift so much!! I consider myself to be VERY SPIRITUAL AND I DEFINITELY BELIEVE IN THE AFTERLIFE...but I need to learn to read tarot!!!🌈♥️🙏HAPPY NEW YEAR!!🍾🎉🥂🎉 And..btw..from what u explained about this murderer's father, he, (the father), sounds like a REAL JERK AND VERY ABUSIVE and CONTROLLING TO THE MURDERER'S MOTHER!!! IF THIS IS THE DYNAMIC OF HOW THE MURDERER'S FATHER TREATS THE MURDERER'S MOTHER, THIS COULD BE PART OF HOW THIS MURDERER DEVELOPED INTO THE PSYCHOPATH THAT HE IS!!!!🙆