42:06 a cn friend of mine said that the part where kevin said "There won't be another Elysia", it's more towards "there wont be another miracle *like* Elysia" so it's not like there can't be multiple elysias, just that the one particular ely (Herscherr of Origin/Human) will never happen again
100% agree with your interpretation. I think he just meant that Elysia that we all knew in HI3 will never appear again for that universe. Doesn't mean that other alternate versions of Elysia in other universes don't exist. That'd be close to impossible in most cases when bringing up the multi-verse unless it's cosmic beings or god level imo.
As an HSR player who's barely touched HI3, it's been an absolute blast seeing how passionate HI3 players are about their game. That just seeing reflections of those characters brought you to tears really shows how much you love HI3's story an characters, and it makes me hope Amphoreus can reach the same level so I can join in on it.
Also funny thing is that... After the stream... hI3 posted a pic of Elly with a message that says.. "Hi~~ Did you miss me? " They fucking know what they are doing
Imo, what Kevin said about how there will never be another Elysia is only in the context of their world and the Cocoon of Finality. Su had confirmed about there being multiple Elysias in different worlds when he said Elysia always make the same choice in every universe.
Kevin meant there wont be another Elysia in the sense that there won't be another miracle like her in the context of the cocoon of finality and her herrscher status (As far as I'm aware)
I am ridiculously excited for Amphoreus now that we're getting the Flame Chasers - we've only heard stories about the Past Era but never actually got to properly see it. So if Amphoreus is us actively playing a setting inspired by the Past Era I absolutely cannot wait for that. They're also absolutely going to use this setting for the Fate collab as well. I have been playing HI3 for longer than I can remember so yes - I am the highest level of excited possible for Amphoreus.
laughed hysterically, teared up, jumped up and down, etc.. They used the same JP and CN VA for the new Elysia too. The 12 flame chasers with golden ICHOR inside, etc.. The feeling of nostalgia and remembrance is indescribable. Those who don't have time to play HI3 but want to understand why HI3 players of HSR community are so emotional, they can watch streams of HI3 players on YT on each chapter of Part 1 to get the context. This is same feeling of what HI3 players felt when seeing Himeko and Raiden B. Mei (Acheron) in HSR, but this time, it is for 13 characters with a tragic ending. So x13 times the emotions / trauma. My guess on the order of appearance: 1. golden threads, angelic harmony - Eden who is also known for Gold and as The Angel of Strings 2. 3 faced messenger - chibi Vill-V with her 3 main personalities 3. Anexagoras with knowledge and eye-patch and sitting underneath a tree - Su 4. pink girl sleeping in a tree and is called the priest that sever dawn from dusk - Sakura/Rin with her pink hair, samsara occupation as a priestess, and the technique of severing space 5. gauntlet on his hand and a beast within - thought it is Hua/Kalpas but now I think he is adult Kosma 6. Pardo 7. butterfly wing, butterfly earring, "right to embrace", and the power to command "frozen death to sleep peacefully" - Aponia 7.5 Ocean lady - looks like Hua, with her iconic long ponytail and wearing something resembles closely to Azure Empyrea battle dress. 8. Kevin The shadowy portraits contains 3 females and 1 male. My guess in order: Hua - hair looks similar Mobius - one of her usual posture is to hold her head with her palm Kalpas - masked male with a demon hand holding a flame Griseo - young adult version with that iconic short hair cut and with a blue background no less Last one is Elysia, our pink jesus.
There was a quote by the developers back shortly after release to the effect of, 'HSR is an alternate universe where the characters from HI3 can live their best lives'. In that regard, yes, there could totally be another Elysia. Just as there is another Himeko, thriving instead of dying. And another Otto. And another Raiden Mei. And the self-same Welt.
Are you sure that's the quote they've said? Because devs always say everything is in the same universe but different worlds. I don't believe Devs have said "HSR is an alternate universe" either because that would mean "Hi3rd" is an entire different universe when in the main story, Kiana (and the memokeeper) and Sparkle confirmed, is just another world inside the same universe. Apart from that, you're right in the possibility of multiples Elysias. Knowing Hoyoverse, in the future we may have another Bronya in Honkai Star Rail. Just like Acheron having a Kevin in her world and we'll have another Kevin from another world.
@@Canaria_Mary Yes, as I recall it was an interview with Da Wei. These are different realities. The Astral Express had to cross from one to another to bring Welt here.
@@MTCason That's better. "Realities" is more plausible. Even Penacony has multiple realities, but different realities ≠ different universes. As far as I know, Honkai developers have always explicitly said "worlds" or "realities" in the same universe, not different universes.
Oh wow that means we have confirmation that Mei really should have just stuck with World Serpent and let Earth get kablooied. Because if Acheron is Mei's best life I can't even begin to imagine how horrible Mei's life as a teacher with her friends all safe on Earth has to be... Pinch of salt is what I'm getting at. Take anything the Honkai people say with a pinch of salt.
@@vetreas366 If you think about it, it's "probably" what's the best Raiden Mei could get. let's re-think, what happen on the future where Otto erase himself and Kallen stayed alive back then. No Otto, no K-423... No Kiana to save Mei...
I'm also excited for Fugue. I've not played HI3, but I really am so happy for you being able to see your favorites from HI3 being part of HSR although we don't know how much identically they will be a part of it. But really must be so exciting for you! And all the QoL they continue to add to this game is amazing!
I barely survived the Elysian Realm (ended up in the actual ER from dehydration after crying for days). When this dropped and I watched it, completely unprepared, I ended up rolling on the floor, bawling my eyes out. Like, bruhh, the chokehold these 13 characters have on me is just too much
My crackpot theory is HoC somehow survived with/without Elysia remnants using a STELLARON and is constantly replaying looping their story on a planet scale, forcing version of the flame chasers to keep fighting, potentially for a different end. OR they go demon lord route and Kevin(partially remembers his original) is trying to destroy the world to free everyone from the loop, but TB doesn’t understand it. The stupid eye motifs make me dread everything.
I'm on chapter XII 12-3 in honkai impact 3rd, and it's so fantastic. I'm getting more and more interested in the story. I just can't wait to be able to jump in part 2
Herscherrs are akin to herald/shadow for Finality. From Reason to Corruption, all are prerequisites for the arrival of Finality. Elysia (Origin) is different, she doesn't belong to Finality, she's more or less on the same standing as child of Imaginary. That's why Kevin said there will never be another Elysia. He meant that there will never be another anomaly, not necessarily Origin.
I think when Kevin said there would never be another Elysia, he meant for Earth, for humanity. Elysia did so much for everyone of Earth, and she sacrificed all she had so Herrschers would have their own free will. I feel like this Elysia has nothing to do with Earth at all. … but… Elysia was literally a miracle created by the Cocoon of Finality… so other versions of her probably shouldn’t exist, with how she’s tied so close to what Honkai is. Either way, I’m very interested in what they’re bringing to us here!
I tried to get into HI3 so many times, I really really can’t do it. But at least I’m reading up on the lore and watching videos on it, so I’m not missing the massive amounts of references in HSR
Doesnt matter where, or even when, our man Kevin really only knows that one pose. And you can bet im gonna pull everyone who even remotely resembles our beloved 13
Omg I just had a really stupid smooth brain moment just now, and I'm not sure about others but I also noticed other HI3 players/reactors (that I saw) did not point this out. I realized it only now after rewatching this a bunch of times, BUT THE SUN IS LITERALLY THE HERRSCHER OF CORRUPTION (IIRC that was the Herrscher in the "Because of You" HI3 animated short. The eye's design is pretty much the same and I didn't notice it until just now 💀
finally, someone else actually noticed this. I have been going around through multiple reaction videos and comment sections hoping to find other people that thought that it looked like the Herrscher of Corruption. I guess I'm just weird for the things I paid attention to, but I caught on to the Herrscher of Corruption on my first watch (even the whole disaster that they talk about seemed like a situation where the Herrscher of Corruption was able to just run rampent without anyone managing to quickly stop it). on the other hand I somehow didn't catch on to the fact that we were seeing new versions of the Flame-Chasers until they showed Kevin while mentioning Deliverance...
I was also like on the verge of tears but also like 50/50 on the feelings scale about Ellie because of Hi3rd lore. But also I really want our Ellie even via expy to have their happiest moment. But if this is what's on the horizon then I'm saving every single gems I can scrounge up in my account
Kevin did not mean that there is not single other Elysia out there. There just isn’t one like the one in HI3rd out there with her specific personality and circumstances of birth.
Issue with honkai lores and theories is, most of the time they're written in the POV of someone. Remember the theory about the universe made by Otto that later get debunked in which causes ton of chaos in the lore community at the time? Or how about Zandar One Kuwabara theory about the Cosmos Tree that is later rewritten into The Tree of Imaginary, with people believing its not true due to some other scientist/philosopher debunking it inside the game? Even tho in HI3rd, that theory is seen as the one main structure of the universe. Yeah, anything is possible in honkaiverse, because the whole universe's theory is made from the perspective of the people inside the game that is not from the "god" or the "writer" unlike most other lores/theories made in other franchises/medias. Which is really like the IRL, and why I love all their game. It mixes fantasy and reality in such a crazy sense that its hard to keep up, but that's also the charm in it. Loved the reaction btw! edit : forgot to mention why i wrote this comment aside from appreciation. Its about Kevin's and DR. MEI's theory on Elysia's existence.
With fugue they are giving us a solution before the problem of HMC or RMC. While not all 3.x characters will be remerance I think it's a focus. Then there is the fate Collab. To me this feels like Ruan mei 1.6 all over again. So many good designs characters so little resources
the introduction of Remembrance path is probably going to play out fairly similarly to how Dendro did in Genshin. 8/17 (4/9 4-stars and 4/8 5-stars) of the characters released between the start of 3.0 and the start of 4.0 were Dendro, after which they slowed down to be released at about the same rate as any other element. still, even if we get the same rough 50% of new characters all being the Path of Remembrance, that still leaves the other 50% for the other 7 paths, and then unless 4.0 ends up introducing yet another new path things should end up going back ot normal
What i get about elysia is, if im not wrong, she can be in every universe and she will sacrifice her life to save humanity... And i read in somewhere su already see lot universe that have elysia but they all the same... Do the same thing sacrifice her self to save humanity...
So... with what looks like Rin replacing Sakura... and with blond guy possibly being Kosma's stand in... and Venti/Wendi + Sa/Su... what are chances that blond guy is male Dystopia?
I have a girlfriend for 2 years now and we were in her condo when the special program aired (She plays Hoyo games except Hi3 but she knows bits and pieces about the lore because of my random yappings from time to time) so we watched it together. I was SHAKING from the moment I heard "Flame chased", Indenial when I saw the "Su" look alike, I legit bawled when I saw Pardo so she paused the video confused why I was crying but I said nothing and keep going. I was crying while gasping for air when mah boy Kevin showed up so she had to worryingly pause the video again and this time interrogate me on what's going on 🤣So I explained to her my attachment to the Flamechasers, who they are, why they are important to me and why the Honkai impact 3rd story is one of my favorite things ever. I also suggested to her to eventually play the story, read the mangas, read the VNs because I know for sure she is the type who can appreciate it at its fullest
Same VA as Elysia yup it’s our Queen Her name is Cyrene but it is Elysia These are Flame Chasers in a parallel world. And yes that was Kevin his name is Phainon. Aglaea even said Flame Chase in trailer. In description it says Heroes who Chase the Flames. Aglaea is Aponia. Eden is the girl who was engulfed in waves of water. Vill-V is the twins Tribbie. Because Vill-V was said to have many faces. Kalpas is the man who was in war battlefield with the tiger Mydei. Su was the eyepatch guy Anaxa. Yae is the girl with pink hair who was in the trees Hyacine. Kosma was the man in the desert. Mobius was either not shown and she was in silhouette the blue one, or it’s Castorice. Griseo is either the last silhouette shown, or the girl in the shadow shown in scene with pillars. Cipher is Pardofelis. And Fu Hua was in the silhouette the red one. That’s 13
maybe kevin meant there will never be another elysia that will appear even in the later generations since from what i know sus stated that in the worlds he observed he saw many elysia's sacrificing their life
If devs don't release them all and I will not be capable to collect all Flame Chasers at least in HSR, I will game end myself! Joking of course, but collect all Flame Chasers will be my goal for next few years and I really hope all of them will be playable.
i am looking forward to the future of Honkai Star Rail (and of course all the new "cultured" fanart, especially such involving the Trailblazer's new room and bath lol)!!!
Hear me out, it may be too early to say but what is, Elysia Epxy is March 7th....remember, she was frozen in 6 phased ice for a long time by Fuli the rememberance. It is said that Amphoreus would be more into the rememberance path and also Blackswan the memokeeper who is an Emanator for rememberance wants us to visit Amphoreus, a place even Akivili has not reached.....don't get mad is just a theory i saw some other in my friends discord talking about it and i was wondering too, could March finally get her memories back and know where she came from ? I am hyped for the 3.0 flamechasers inspired story arc but of course we would have to see. Also ppl saying that if Acheron does visit Amphoreus then it really comes fully circle back to HI3rd story but i am holding onto that until i see it myself
50:17 FINALLY someone said it >.< I cannot stand people who simultaneously spacebar through all the buildup, and complain that they don't understand what's going on. There's a reason why all good stories have beginning and middle, not JUST the end.
In fact, even when the writers say it's okay to skip stuff, press X to doubt. They're just trying to be nice and subtle in their signalling. Remember when around the launch of Penacony, Shaoji himself said that we didn't need to know the story of HI3 to get what's going on with Acheron, the Project Stig- I mean Ena's dream and everything? I think that was the part where HSR players experienced what HI3 players had long known as "Shaoji lies as naturally as he breathes".
He singlehandedly made the hi3 flamechaser storyline the greatest mihoyo story ever written. Not wanting him to spearhead another flamechase masterpiece is typical of a wuwa shill KEKW
there's information that 3.X writer is not shaoji but Fanchuan (greenland sailboat) He’s known for writing Durandal and Anti-Entropy, a lot of welts lore too
Did you ever watch the zzz lore trailer about the void hunters? Coz pretty sure that also had a character that looks exactly like Elysia too. Guess HSR get there first though.
You should also have to remember that we don't know if all of them are pull-able. They didn't add all the Ten Stonehearts characters yet either. It is possible around 6 or 8 is pull-able and the rest is just characters for the 3.0 story. Why 6-8 you ask? Because that should be around the time they are adding Fate characters for the collab on a different planet. This means we have to narrow down who they might be adding as pull-able characters.
I heard about leaks that said that there will be a pair of characters that are kinda complementary and are like sisters... I was saving just in case they release Veliona but now there is no way I have enough resources for everything. If the red haired kid comes in pairs instead of my beloved Veliona I'll be so disappointed.
ngl I'm also thinking I might be skipping Fugue. Even though I've never played HI3rd you can't just show me a group of greek gods and goddesses and expect me, a minnow, to not have an existential crisis on how to save my resources. (Aglaea and Castorice are the two I most want from what was shown, how crazy would it be if Castorice is a remembrance unit and that shadow-like dragon is her servant. I feel like remembrance characters will be their way of giving us non-human units to fight with without having to program them into the overworld. Give them human counterparts to act in the overworld in their place. I'd also like the cat girl as long as I can confidently get the two previously mentioned.) Even if I get Fugue I'd still have an incomplete break team without Ruan Mei.. totally me not coping at all. lol
I always thought Kevin wasn't being literal when he said "there won't be another Elysia". He could be referring to Elysia as uniquely his friend, or a natural-born Herrscher, or even the savior of PE humanity. Methinks you might have taken his words too literally. Also does SIM Kevin know about the imaginary tree?
it's multiverse, Acheron is a variant of Raiden Mei, too bad her world has already ended while in HI3 we saved it, now we can be part of the FC in HSR and save them from the same fate in HI3, where we are too late to be part of, only to remember them in our memories.
You should if you want to feel more attached and get the references. Also it's a very good story. Also gacha is completely unnecessary is HI3 because the game will just give you the characters as trail for the story after chapter 5 or so. Also pay attention to the story because everything becomes important at somepoint. Yes the first 6-7 chapters(about 1 week of casual play) can be a bit rough because those chapters are very old but don't worry it'll be fine. And it'll be very important in HSR when Welt actually becomes important. Also have tissues with you after chapter 7 you will need them. Also a lot of Chapters have extra comics which gives a lot of important info. There should be button for them in every chapter that have them. I believe the wiki has all the story things in a read order if you want more info.
No need. They did say that for the honkai veterans it will be a nostalgia, but it will still be a fresh experience for both vets and new players alike. But if you want to feel what the vets are feeling, feel free to try the game
@@massupkill4308 In GGZ, Earth has gone through a lot of cycles since it got destroyed so many times and re-started so many times, who knows HI3 world we are in aren't one of the cycles?
What do you mean "I dont know how theyre going to go about this". HSR universe isn't HI3 universe, but they are linked by the Imaginary Tree. The people in HI3 exist in HSR, different dimensions. The story isn't linked, but it is possible to get so advanced you can cross over the barrier of the different dimensions I.E Welt from HI3 is the same one in HSR.
I know this. When I said I don’t know how they’re going to go about this is mainly story related. Mainly as in how they’ll connect this and make these characters stand on their own similar to how they went about with the Acheron story since these aren’t expies and variants exist. (Welt obviously the exception here since it’s actually him) So either similar to the Flame Chaser story but with connections and similarities or they throw something at else entirely at us. Again, who knows since we have to wait for it to actually drop and I’m excited to see. Keep in mind as well, I was freaking out the entire time watching this live for the first time. Safe to say I was not okay and my mind is still processing all of it lol 😅
The worst thing about all these HI3 connections is that these new versions will never be popular on their own and the fans become unbearable. The way some of the fans act actually makes me never want to continue trying to get through HI3 especially when the early story that I’ve experienced so far is told so poorly. And now I’ve got to hear people constantly saying Kevin (whoever the hell he is) and all the others. Sorry to be so negative here but it will become impossible to talk about these new characters without someone going “well in HI3 this was actually this other character and blah blah blah” similar to Acheron. HI3 characters only cared about Acheron because of Raiden Mei and hag will repeat here.
Trust me, Acheron is def popular in her own right. She gained traction because of the connection and all, but shes like a completely different person. Her character stands on its own after experiencing Penacony. Just like all the characters thus far that are separate versions. I wouldn't worry too much about the new characters being popular for who they are.
@@Ichigo2k9 If it's not for you then it's not, no one is forcing you to play HI3 or HSR, Mihoyo has their plan when they make those character design and lore, I respect your opinion and your choice, so how about you also respect who ever plays it to have their own reason in doing so, because the story or character or whatever reason it is or just keep your opinion to yourself.
33:13 this is so funny, after a few minutes she saw her. hi3 is not worth my time. id rather watch AOT 100 more times than play HI3 and experience the story. if you want to see whats their cooking, then work for them. they wont say it now. obviously.
42:06
a cn friend of mine said that the part where kevin said "There won't be another Elysia", it's more towards "there wont be another miracle *like* Elysia"
so it's not like there can't be multiple elysias, just that the one particular ely (Herscherr of Origin/Human) will never happen again
This. Kevin was referring to her unique existence with regards to the cocoon of finality and her effect on all subsequent Herrschers
Yeah, that's the meaning to be taken from that. Not that Elly is completely unique and doesn't have variants across other worlds
100% agree with your interpretation. I think he just meant that Elysia that we all knew in HI3 will never appear again for that universe. Doesn't mean that other alternate versions of Elysia in other universes don't exist. That'd be close to impossible in most cases when bringing up the multi-verse unless it's cosmic beings or god level imo.
this plus Su literally said that he observed many other hers and all of them sacrificed themselves
yeah, I think he meant like when you lost a best friend and you say there will never be another him/her (their role in your/other people's life).
As an HSR player who's barely touched HI3, it's been an absolute blast seeing how passionate HI3 players are about their game. That just seeing reflections of those characters brought you to tears really shows how much you love HI3's story an characters, and it makes me hope Amphoreus can reach the same level so I can join in on it.
the voice, the hair, the hair ornament... that is absolutely 100% no doubt an Elysia Expy
And she looks so similar to march in my opinion, so I'm wondering is it's like a bronya situation
@@Khaosraynes to make more similar CN and JP Va confirmed voiced Elysia
If you turn on subtitles, they even added the music note at the end of her line
Also funny thing is that...
After the stream...
hI3 posted a pic of Elly with a message that says..
"Hi~~ Did you miss me? "
They fucking know what they are doing
yes, we did miss her!
That's why, after looking at a few other comments I've come to the conclusion that they may revive Ely or this is indeed just a copy of her
Imo, what Kevin said about how there will never be another Elysia is only in the context of their world and the Cocoon of Finality. Su had confirmed about there being multiple Elysias in different worlds when he said Elysia always make the same choice in every universe.
Yes, there may be millions of Elysias out there but is extremely unlikely for an Elysia variant to be born in the same way Elysia from Hi3 was born.
Kevin meant there wont be another Elysia in the sense that there won't be another miracle like her in the context of the cocoon of finality and her herrscher status
(As far as I'm aware)
Rise up Captains.
After 4 years, we finally recieve... our Deliverance.... oh and Elysia too.
Dont forget riverie
I am ridiculously excited for Amphoreus now that we're getting the Flame Chasers - we've only heard stories about the Past Era but never actually got to properly see it. So if Amphoreus is us actively playing a setting inspired by the Past Era I absolutely cannot wait for that. They're also absolutely going to use this setting for the Fate collab as well. I have been playing HI3 for longer than I can remember so yes - I am the highest level of excited possible for Amphoreus.
laughed hysterically, teared up, jumped up and down, etc.. They used the same JP and CN VA for the new Elysia too.
The 12 flame chasers with golden ICHOR inside, etc.. The feeling of nostalgia and remembrance is indescribable.
Those who don't have time to play HI3 but want to understand why HI3 players of HSR community are so emotional, they can watch streams of HI3 players on YT on each chapter of Part 1 to get the context.
This is same feeling of what HI3 players felt when seeing Himeko and Raiden B. Mei (Acheron) in HSR, but this time, it is for 13 characters with a tragic ending. So x13 times the emotions / trauma.
My guess on the order of appearance:
1. golden threads, angelic harmony - Eden who is also known for Gold and as The Angel of Strings
2. 3 faced messenger - chibi Vill-V with her 3 main personalities
3. Anexagoras with knowledge and eye-patch and sitting underneath a tree - Su
4. pink girl sleeping in a tree and is called the priest that sever dawn from dusk - Sakura/Rin with her pink hair, samsara occupation as a priestess, and the technique of severing space
5. gauntlet on his hand and a beast within - thought it is Hua/Kalpas but now I think he is adult Kosma
6. Pardo
7. butterfly wing, butterfly earring, "right to embrace", and the power to command "frozen death to sleep peacefully" - Aponia
7.5 Ocean lady - looks like Hua, with her iconic long ponytail and wearing something resembles closely to Azure Empyrea battle dress.
8. Kevin
The shadowy portraits contains 3 females and 1 male. My guess in order:
Hua - hair looks similar
Mobius - one of her usual posture is to hold her head with her palm
Kalpas - masked male with a demon hand holding a flame
Griseo - young adult version with that iconic short hair cut and with a blue background no less
Last one is Elysia, our pink jesus.
Good Theory!😃😃
You're close, but the girl in purple color feels more like Mobius variant, TBH. Because we never get to see which is actually Fu Hua/Hua variant.
@@alvinhow7996 we may see the first variant in 3.0 and maybe that's why she's hidden
Man your making me excited for mobius! also hoping she follows voracity path, well lore wise...
but in the trailer she said golden thread of fate which is so aponia coded so....
There was a quote by the developers back shortly after release to the effect of, 'HSR is an alternate universe where the characters from HI3 can live their best lives'. In that regard, yes, there could totally be another Elysia. Just as there is another Himeko, thriving instead of dying. And another Otto. And another Raiden Mei. And the self-same Welt.
Are you sure that's the quote they've said? Because devs always say everything is in the same universe but different worlds. I don't believe Devs have said "HSR is an alternate universe" either because that would mean "Hi3rd" is an entire different universe when in the main story, Kiana (and the memokeeper) and Sparkle confirmed, is just another world inside the same universe.
Apart from that, you're right in the possibility of multiples Elysias. Knowing Hoyoverse, in the future we may have another Bronya in Honkai Star Rail. Just like Acheron having a Kevin in her world and we'll have another Kevin from another world.
@@Canaria_Mary Yes, as I recall it was an interview with Da Wei. These are different realities. The Astral Express had to cross from one to another to bring Welt here.
@@MTCason That's better. "Realities" is more plausible. Even Penacony has multiple realities, but different realities ≠ different universes.
As far as I know, Honkai developers have always explicitly said "worlds" or "realities" in the same universe, not different universes.
Oh wow that means we have confirmation that Mei really should have just stuck with World Serpent and let Earth get kablooied.
Because if Acheron is Mei's best life I can't even begin to imagine how horrible Mei's life as a teacher with her friends all safe on Earth has to be...
Pinch of salt is what I'm getting at. Take anything the Honkai people say with a pinch of salt.
@@vetreas366 If you think about it, it's "probably" what's the best Raiden Mei could get. let's re-think, what happen on the future where Otto erase himself and Kallen stayed alive back then. No Otto, no K-423... No Kiana to save Mei...
Even in another game, we still can't see Kalp-ass' face. Commitment to the bit.
Edit: Hearing Marina Inoue made me have Flashbacks, ONG
yeah, I think he meant like when you lost a best friend and you say there will never be another him/her (their role in your/other people's life).
the bar robot has Akira Ishida's voice.... new version of Void Archives is here lol
wait wahat!?!?!? I LOVE THIS GUY SO MUCH I ACTUALLY DIDN'T RECOGNIZE HIS VA HERE?!?
It's probably something Void Archives left on the express
We got him... as a robot bartender who Welt just keeps staring at
I'm also excited for Fugue. I've not played HI3, but I really am so happy for you being able to see your favorites from HI3 being part of HSR although we don't know how much identically they will be a part of it. But really must be so exciting for you! And all the QoL they continue to add to this game is amazing!
I barely survived the Elysian Realm (ended up in the actual ER from dehydration after crying for days). When this dropped and I watched it, completely unprepared, I ended up rolling on the floor, bawling my eyes out. Like, bruhh, the chokehold these 13 characters have on me is just too much
Nahhhhh, fr?
@ Fr, not one of my proudest moments lol.
shes gonna say Hii~ and im gonna just start crying
My crackpot theory is HoC somehow survived with/without Elysia remnants using a STELLARON and is constantly replaying looping their story on a planet scale, forcing version of the flame chasers to keep fighting, potentially for a different end.
OR they go demon lord route and Kevin(partially remembers his original) is trying to destroy the world to free everyone from the loop, but TB doesn’t understand it.
The stupid eye motifs make me dread everything.
I'm on chapter XII 12-3 in honkai impact 3rd, and it's so fantastic. I'm getting more and more interested in the story. I just can't wait to be able to jump in part 2
There will only be one Pink Jesus. Cant wait to meet her.
Herscherrs are akin to herald/shadow for Finality. From Reason to Corruption, all are prerequisites for the arrival of Finality.
Elysia (Origin) is different, she doesn't belong to Finality, she's more or less on the same standing as child of Imaginary.
That's why Kevin said there will never be another Elysia. He meant that there will never be another anomaly, not necessarily Origin.
I think when Kevin said there would never be another Elysia, he meant for Earth, for humanity. Elysia did so much for everyone of Earth, and she sacrificed all she had so Herrschers would have their own free will. I feel like this Elysia has nothing to do with Earth at all.
… but… Elysia was literally a miracle created by the Cocoon of Finality… so other versions of her probably shouldn’t exist, with how she’s tied so close to what Honkai is.
Either way, I’m very interested in what they’re bringing to us here!
Ah yes, Capt- Trailblazer's tears harvesting is back~~ but in another universe
lol when i saw that trailer in jp and heard elly voice i can already can hear her say "Hi~" in game lol
I can't believe can see Elysia again on HSR!
I tried to get into HI3 so many times, I really really can’t do it. But at least I’m reading up on the lore and watching videos on it, so I’m not missing the massive amounts of references in HSR
Doesnt matter where, or even when, our man Kevin really only knows that one pose. And you can bet im gonna pull everyone who even remotely resembles our beloved 13
Omg I just had a really stupid smooth brain moment just now, and I'm not sure about others but I also noticed other HI3 players/reactors (that I saw) did not point this out.
I realized it only now after rewatching this a bunch of times, BUT THE SUN IS LITERALLY THE HERRSCHER OF CORRUPTION (IIRC that was the Herrscher in the "Because of You" HI3 animated short. The eye's design is pretty much the same and I didn't notice it until just now 💀
finally, someone else actually noticed this. I have been going around through multiple reaction videos and comment sections hoping to find other people that thought that it looked like the Herrscher of Corruption.
I guess I'm just weird for the things I paid attention to, but I caught on to the Herrscher of Corruption on my first watch (even the whole disaster that they talk about seemed like a situation where the Herrscher of Corruption was able to just run rampent without anyone managing to quickly stop it).
on the other hand I somehow didn't catch on to the fact that we were seeing new versions of the Flame-Chasers until they showed Kevin while mentioning Deliverance...
I was also like on the verge of tears but also like 50/50 on the feelings scale about Ellie because of Hi3rd lore. But also I really want our Ellie even via expy to have their happiest moment. But if this is what's on the horizon then I'm saving every single gems I can scrounge up in my account
Kevin did not mean that there is not single other Elysia out there. There just isn’t one like the one in HI3rd out there with her specific personality and circumstances of birth.
Issue with honkai lores and theories is, most of the time they're written in the POV of someone. Remember the theory about the universe made by Otto that later get debunked in which causes ton of chaos in the lore community at the time? Or how about Zandar One Kuwabara theory about the Cosmos Tree that is later rewritten into The Tree of Imaginary, with people believing its not true due to some other scientist/philosopher debunking it inside the game? Even tho in HI3rd, that theory is seen as the one main structure of the universe. Yeah, anything is possible in honkaiverse, because the whole universe's theory is made from the perspective of the people inside the game that is not from the "god" or the "writer" unlike most other lores/theories made in other franchises/medias. Which is really like the IRL, and why I love all their game. It mixes fantasy and reality in such a crazy sense that its hard to keep up, but that's also the charm in it. Loved the reaction btw!
edit : forgot to mention why i wrote this comment aside from appreciation. Its about Kevin's and DR. MEI's theory on Elysia's existence.
Acheron: "And that's why I killed him....
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I enjoy your passion for HI3
With fugue they are giving us a solution before the problem of HMC or RMC. While not all 3.x characters will be remerance I think it's a focus. Then there is the fate Collab. To me this feels like Ruan mei 1.6 all over again. So many good designs characters so little resources
the introduction of Remembrance path is probably going to play out fairly similarly to how Dendro did in Genshin. 8/17 (4/9 4-stars and 4/8 5-stars) of the characters released between the start of 3.0 and the start of 4.0 were Dendro, after which they slowed down to be released at about the same rate as any other element.
still, even if we get the same rough 50% of new characters all being the Path of Remembrance, that still leaves the other 50% for the other 7 paths, and then unless 4.0 ends up introducing yet another new path things should end up going back ot normal
What i get about elysia is, if im not wrong, she can be in every universe and she will sacrifice her life to save humanity... And i read in somewhere su already see lot universe that have elysia but they all the same... Do the same thing sacrifice her self to save humanity...
Kevin meant there will be no 2nd Elysia in the CE and the same one as his Elysia
You would love this Program in other language because Pompom and March there were Tingyun and both Trailblazers
No lie i cried when i saw Ely…🥲 welcome home baby girl
So... with what looks like Rin replacing Sakura... and with blond guy possibly being Kosma's stand in... and Venti/Wendi + Sa/Su... what are chances that blond guy is male Dystopia?
Fun Fact: Some people have realized that Aglaea is also inspired from someone among the flamechasers, just the least obvious one among them
I have a girlfriend for 2 years now and we were in her condo when the special program aired (She plays Hoyo games except Hi3 but she knows bits and pieces about the lore because of my random yappings from time to time) so we watched it together. I was SHAKING from the moment I heard "Flame chased", Indenial when I saw the "Su" look alike, I legit bawled when I saw Pardo so she paused the video confused why I was crying but I said nothing and keep going. I was crying while gasping for air when mah boy Kevin showed up so she had to worryingly pause the video again and this time interrogate me on what's going on 🤣So I explained to her my attachment to the Flamechasers, who they are, why they are important to me and why the Honkai impact 3rd story is one of my favorite things ever.
I also suggested to her to eventually play the story, read the mangas, read the VNs because I know for sure she is the type who can appreciate it at its fullest
Same VA as Elysia yup it’s our Queen
Her name is Cyrene but it is Elysia
These are Flame Chasers in a parallel world.
And yes that was Kevin his name is Phainon. Aglaea even said Flame Chase in trailer. In description it says Heroes who Chase the Flames.
Aglaea is Aponia.
Eden is the girl who was engulfed in waves of water. Vill-V is the twins Tribbie. Because Vill-V was said to have many faces. Kalpas is the man who was in war battlefield with the tiger Mydei. Su was the eyepatch guy Anaxa. Yae is the girl with pink hair who was in the trees Hyacine. Kosma was the man in the desert. Mobius was either not shown and she was in silhouette the blue one, or it’s Castorice. Griseo is either the last silhouette shown, or the girl in the shadow shown in scene with pillars. Cipher is Pardofelis. And Fu Hua was in the silhouette the red one. That’s 13
ur answer is right in every siluet, great my bro. yeah castorice is mobius because it serpent summon, whike hua is the red one because its senti
maybe kevin meant there will never be another elysia that will appear even in the later generations
since from what i know sus stated that in the worlds he observed he saw many elysia's sacrificing their life
If devs don't release them all and I will not be capable to collect all Flame Chasers at least in HSR, I will game end myself! Joking of course, but collect all Flame Chasers will be my goal for next few years and I really hope all of them will be playable.
I'd partner her with Acheron.
i am looking forward to the future of Honkai Star Rail (and of course all the new "cultured" fanart, especially such involving the Trailblazer's new room and bath lol)!!!
Hear me out, it may be too early to say but what is, Elysia Epxy is March 7th....remember, she was frozen in 6 phased ice for a long time by Fuli the rememberance. It is said that Amphoreus would be more into the rememberance path and also Blackswan the memokeeper who is an Emanator for rememberance wants us to visit Amphoreus, a place even Akivili has not reached.....don't get mad is just a theory i saw some other in my friends discord talking about it and i was wondering too, could March finally get her memories back and know where she came from ? I am hyped for the 3.0 flamechasers inspired story arc but of course we would have to see. Also ppl saying that if Acheron does visit Amphoreus then it really comes fully circle back to HI3rd story but i am holding onto that until i see it myself
50:17 FINALLY someone said it >.<
I cannot stand people who simultaneously spacebar through all the buildup, and complain that they don't understand what's going on. There's a reason why all good stories have beginning and middle, not JUST the end.
In fact, even when the writers say it's okay to skip stuff, press X to doubt. They're just trying to be nice and subtle in their signalling. Remember when around the launch of Penacony, Shaoji himself said that we didn't need to know the story of HI3 to get what's going on with Acheron, the Project Stig- I mean Ena's dream and everything?
I think that was the part where HSR players experienced what HI3 players had long known as "Shaoji lies as naturally as he breathes".
Shaoji please keep your hands off the script please.
He singlehandedly made the hi3 flamechaser storyline the greatest mihoyo story ever written.
Not wanting him to spearhead another flamechase masterpiece is typical of a wuwa shill KEKW
@orewaren8549 💯. Shaoji's been a bless to be around. But for once can't he stop broken Captain or Traiblazer's heart.
there's information that 3.X writer is not shaoji but Fanchuan (greenland sailboat) He’s known for writing Durandal and Anti-Entropy, a lot of welts lore too
Too late
but we need them to died to be grrat story. flamchase will not this popular if they got happy ending
Did you ever watch the zzz lore trailer about the void hunters? Coz pretty sure that also had a character that looks exactly like Elysia too. Guess HSR get there first though.
You should also have to remember that we don't know if all of them are pull-able. They didn't add all the Ten Stonehearts characters yet either. It is possible around 6 or 8 is pull-able and the rest is just characters for the 3.0 story. Why 6-8 you ask? Because that should be around the time they are adding Fate characters for the collab on a different planet. This means we have to narrow down who they might be adding as pull-able characters.
Elegg bond stories 🙏💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛💛
Jackal bond stories 🙏🩷🤍🩵🩷🤍🩵🩷🤍🩵🩷🤍🩵
I heard about leaks that said that there will be a pair of characters that are kinda complementary and are like sisters... I was saving just in case they release Veliona but now there is no way I have enough resources for everything.
If the red haired kid comes in pairs instead of my beloved Veliona I'll be so disappointed.
Gawd deyym the new model 😂
ngl I'm also thinking I might be skipping Fugue.
Even though I've never played HI3rd you can't just show me a group of greek gods and goddesses and expect me, a minnow, to not have an existential crisis on how to save my resources.
(Aglaea and Castorice are the two I most want from what was shown, how crazy would it be if Castorice is a remembrance unit and that shadow-like dragon is her servant. I feel like remembrance characters will be their way of giving us non-human units to fight with without having to program them into the overworld. Give them human counterparts to act in the overworld in their place. I'd also like the cat girl as long as I can confidently get the two previously mentioned.)
Even if I get Fugue I'd still have an incomplete break team without Ruan Mei.. totally me not coping at all. lol
I always thought Kevin wasn't being literal when he said "there won't be another Elysia". He could be referring to Elysia as uniquely his friend, or a natural-born Herrscher, or even the savior of PE humanity. Methinks you might have taken his words too literally. Also does SIM Kevin know about the imaginary tree?
I dont want to pull for Sunday. But he's a base for summon teams so no choice.
Kalpas is 100% the 3rd unrevealed silhouette
I NEED MY FLAME CHASEEEEERS... but please I hope the devs respect the original version.
it's multiverse, Acheron is a variant of Raiden Mei, too bad her world has already ended while in HI3 we saved it, now we can be part of the FC in HSR and save them from the same fate in HI3, where we are too late to be part of, only to remember them in our memories.
In front of Pardo Male version of Fu-hua
do you see the hi3rd tweet? this is not coincident
im gonna skip aglaea for THE Herta and skip all male "flame chasers" for all female ones unless they are the same ver release
Glory to the 13
So do I need to start playing Honkai Impact 3rd now?
No just reference to hi3 characters
You should if you want to feel more attached and get the references. Also it's a very good story. Also gacha is completely unnecessary is HI3 because the game will just give you the characters as trail for the story after chapter 5 or so. Also pay attention to the story because everything becomes important at somepoint. Yes the first 6-7 chapters(about 1 week of casual play) can be a bit rough because those chapters are very old but don't worry it'll be fine. And it'll be very important in HSR when Welt actually becomes important. Also have tissues with you after chapter 7 you will need them. Also a lot of Chapters have extra comics which gives a lot of important info. There should be button for them in every chapter that have them. I believe the wiki has all the story things in a read order if you want more info.
No need. They did say that for the honkai veterans it will be a nostalgia, but it will still be a fresh experience for both vets and new players alike. But if you want to feel what the vets are feeling, feel free to try the game
I’m little distracted there
Hi twitch!
Senadina was older than elysia
Senadina ( from Mars ) and Vita ( from Venus ) are both older than anyone in HI3 Earth, since their world got destroyed by WOH first isnt it?
@liumatt2874 Sa 250million+ or so ever and sena was 1 billion years thats insane
@@massupkill4308 In GGZ, Earth has gone through a lot of cycles since it got destroyed so many times and re-started so many times, who knows HI3 world we are in aren't one of the cycles?
Hi from youtube >->
YATTA🧱
dont skip, just whale.
What do you mean "I dont know how theyre going to go about this". HSR universe isn't HI3 universe, but they are linked by the Imaginary Tree. The people in HI3 exist in HSR, different dimensions. The story isn't linked, but it is possible to get so advanced you can cross over the barrier of the different dimensions I.E Welt from HI3 is the same one in HSR.
I know this. When I said I don’t know how they’re going to go about this is mainly story related. Mainly as in how they’ll connect this and make these characters stand on their own similar to how they went about with the Acheron story since these aren’t expies and variants exist. (Welt obviously the exception here since it’s actually him) So either similar to the Flame Chaser story but with connections and similarities or they throw something at else entirely at us. Again, who knows since we have to wait for it to actually drop and I’m excited to see.
Keep in mind as well, I was freaking out the entire time watching this live for the first time. Safe to say I was not okay and my mind is still processing all of it lol 😅
The worst thing about all these HI3 connections is that these new versions will never be popular on their own and the fans become unbearable. The way some of the fans act actually makes me never want to continue trying to get through HI3 especially when the early story that I’ve experienced so far is told so poorly. And now I’ve got to hear people constantly saying Kevin (whoever the hell he is) and all the others.
Sorry to be so negative here but it will become impossible to talk about these new characters without someone going “well in HI3 this was actually this other character and blah blah blah” similar to Acheron. HI3 characters only cared about Acheron because of Raiden Mei and hag will repeat here.
cry
@kanzakitomoyo9501 Just the mature response I expected. You kids never let me down.
Cry harder
Trust me, Acheron is def popular in her own right. She gained traction because of the connection and all, but shes like a completely different person. Her character stands on its own after experiencing Penacony. Just like all the characters thus far that are separate versions. I wouldn't worry too much about the new characters being popular for who they are.
@@Ichigo2k9 If it's not for you then it's not, no one is forcing you to play HI3 or HSR, Mihoyo has their plan when they make those character design and lore, I respect your opinion and your choice, so how about you also respect who ever plays it to have their own reason in doing so, because the story or character or whatever reason it is or just keep your opinion to yourself.
33:13 this is so funny, after a few minutes she saw her. hi3 is not worth my time. id rather watch AOT 100 more times than play HI3 and experience the story. if you want to see whats their cooking, then work for them. they wont say it now. obviously.
A simple "no thanks" would have saved you a lot of time, and not sounded as cringy as what you typed here.
dumbass
@@redreaper3065 Chef!!! Absolutely cooked!!
Lmao, she clearly rewinded the video before the scene where they showed her
Why are u even here in the first place?