I just love how Ben doesn't need other abilities the Omnitrix provides like near immortality or scanning other aliens to solo the verse, imagine Ben facing Frieza, casually scans him with the omnitrix and transforms into him
@@ijudgeanime well,he would need to manually learn his abilities tho,as that,is ki control,not biological stuff,but he would have base stats that are basically god for saiyans (as u become a "peak" of the species) so...unless u become like yamoshi (the..uk,first super saiyan god) in base,a saiyan form wouldnt be THAT good
88 aliens shown on screen. Theirs well over a million dna samples in the Omnitrix. The main reason why Ben 10k is called that is because he can transform into ten thousand different aliens. Also the only watch that perfectly recreates an alien is the Ultimatrix. The other versions of the Omnitrix turn the user into a peak specimen of the dna. Pretty good video honestly even with the stuff that wasn’t mentioned. Doesn’t help that I know quite a bit about Ben from the original continuity.
You’re welcome man, Glad I can give good constructive criticism. If you missed some things not the end of the world. But your end result with Ben’s scaling is something I completely agree with.
Little thing about ultimatrix. It wasn't a perfected version of the omnitrix, it was made by Albedo using the core of said ultimatrix and while it had a neat function of making your aliens more combat-oriented, it also had lots of bugs, most prominent is the rebellion of ultimates. Omniverse omnitrix is the perfect version of omnitrix.
@@ijudgeanimefunnily azmuth says that the ultimatrix was a cheap copy of the true omnitrix to the point that the ultimatrix wasn't worthy for ben , so he gave him the the complete omnitrix.
I look at the ultimatrix a cheat that has tons of bugs plus it loses the main purpose of the watch which is to walk in another person's shoe. You show an alien what the could be in a harsh environment could cause issues with them.
It’s funny to me how future Ben made a omnitrix that is probably stronger than the perfected omnitrix and I know that he uses the smartest aliens he has but still it’s just weird how the azmuth couldn’t make a fusion and powerful omnitrix.
the idea of alien x can't survive in some planet was a joke from derrick J.wyatt since he jokes alot and he all ready survive the annilhilarg which is worse than any planet
@@ijudgeanime I know, but you mentioned it a bit briefly so I thought I might as well comment. Btw. it should also be mentioned that Ben gained later more complete control over Alien-X so getting other personalities would be less of a factor and Alien-X also has base durability that let's him survive annihilation of the universe. Anyway, great video, very nice to watch.
Not more powerful. Just more versatile. Like his goop and humungousaur fusion. He loses the ability to grow stronger by literally growing bigger, but a trade off is Goop’s acidic body which melts most things. Just like Atomix. He loses his cosmic celestial powers in exchange for more powerful controlled nuclear energy physical attacks. I could really go on and on about this but you probably get the point.
Ben Tennyson could get a dragon clan namekian transformation and create dragon balls but he would only be able to activate those dragon balls when he's in the dragon clan namekian transformation
Hmm interesting theory. But actually the DNA sample is still alive just contained in the Omnitrix for later use. Which means the dragon balls created in this fusion wouldn’t turn to stone when Ben transforms back into human. If you’re confused by this. There’s an episode in Ultimate Alien showing that Ben’s ultimates are alive in the Omnitrix. So it’s reasonable to say Ben’s regular aliens are alive in the Omnitrix and not dead but contained deep inside.
My only argument would be how long it takes to activate his Omnitrix and Transforming, if he doesn't have master control, then he could be outspeed before he touches the watch, but if he does have master control, then unless the character are faster than thought, then it could go either way. (Kumagawa Misogi pwease)
Yeah I tend to kind of ignore thise things. I know its not technically the best way to do things. But I wanna give them a chance. I wont discredit the argument tho
Eh no even if he doesn't have master control it will do it for him the failsafe will protect him and even without that he definitely can process things incredibly fast especially to react to lasers
Completed Omnitrix can react to the big bang at point blank which is like. Idek how to describe how fast an explosion has to be to create an entire universe with infinite branching timelines all in one go but yeah Also Kumagawa unfortunately loses against the DB verse pretty handily. He can't come back from EE since damage that cannot be undone will perma kill him so Goku, Vegeta, and all of the GoDs have a pretty easy wincon (obviously obtainable due to the insane speed difference). Also it's debatable whether All Fiction would even be able to affect people on the level of the Gods since it was unable to affect Iihiko due to him being "on another level" compared to the main cast in terms of raw stats. All this on top of the fact that it is just in his character to lose.
One thing that I like to mention is that magic was never shown to affect alien x in the show and I believe one of the creators said he can manipulate Nana.
For an channel who isn't an ben 10 channel, you pretty much have been right about the confrontations, the infos you got wrong are: nanomech: he can shrink, but he can not grow past his normal size and btw nanomech is the only fusion of the omnitrix (half human and half chip) and if we take the video i can say that you maked an exception for him without you knowing about this ultimatrix: in short it is an garage invention by albedo that was originally made by azmuth and it might be more powerful than the prototype omnitrix, but is still full of bugs and glitches such as echo echo clonating objects and also making the clones turn into copies of the user upon forcing an detransformation and the master control having less security and as such easily hacked bonus: if ben trained more on chromastone he could really be more useful against the DB universe because an alien of chromastone's species was showed flying and reconstructing an entire planet, so yeah chromastone is powerful if ben used him properly
Chromostone is not really a species but a singular entity. Still though, he'd be useless in modern DB, especially since his energy absorption has a major limit. Feedback is where it's at.
Do you think upgrade could be useful? He’s able to possess any type of machinery and as the name implies it, upgrade it, so couldn’t he for example, possess android 19 to fight 20, 16 to fight 17 and 18, gamma 1 to fight gamma 2 and so on?
Mhm yeah thats interesting. I feel like it would only work on the pure machine androids for sure. But that could ve an interesting way to create infighting. Nkt a bad idea at all man
Yeah he can if he is gon have something electronic on him then yes but if its just human then no and i think he could uograde every alien or get the master control graymatter and other smart alies can do that too
Something I like to add: Ben is actually the most peak human specimen. I mean years of having the omnitrix can do that for you. I mean look at him he’s mastered dozens of martial arts, is an acrobat, can dodge lasers, has Impeccable memory and so much more. Heck even Ultimate Ben 10,000 backs this argument up he’s the ultimate version of an adult ben yet he looks just a little aged up and is jacked. Like bro don’t disrespect my homie Ben Tennyson ever again. He isn’t just the aliens he is HIM!
Okay have not seen anyone else mention this but here we go. Alien ex post Omniverse is under ben's full control, the downside is he doesn't have guidance on how these powers work and has to wing it, even so he went toe to toe with another of his kind and won afterwards.
"Y'all do realize Gwen is like a 10 year old girl, right? Like, literally 10 years old." *THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYIN'* The wild part is there is like...3 official adult Gwen designs and I hardly see those in images.
Fun fact the omnitrix will scan unknown dna samples and give Ben access. Said transformation will also be the peak of said species so for example if he’s in contact with Goni he becomes a prime saiyan like Broly. Also last fun fact Jeytay is ftl so he keeps up with most main cast
@@ijudgeanime There will always be people out there who will highball him and claim he's unbeatable which is obviously false, Doesn't matter if you're someone as a strong as Ninja Turtle's and can punch a few walls or you're a Cosmic God who can affect multiple universes like we see in Marvel & DC comics. The point is........ there will ALWAYS be someone out there with more broken abilities/Hax/ reality warping or whatever terminology you want to use. Ben 10 has more than 300 episodes, Several comic, video games and finding consistent feats with legit consistency to scale him is a difficult job In fact it's one of the most toughest task out there for any power scaler as you essentially needs to write a cosmology blog And people barely have time for that stuff, We all have personal lives. It all comes down to "where" and "how" you scale him really.
@@DemonArshan Yeah I 100% agree. I usually have the same thing with Goku. People who say no one can beat Goku are just straight up wrong. It all depends on the when, where and how you place him. Keep on doing the good work for the Ben10 wiki my guy✌️
😂😂😂😂 Jetray Vegeta his namesake and Nanomech pulling an Ant-Man on Goku are good ones. There is also the DNA scanner fonction that if Saiyan DNA is scanned he'd basically become Broly. Ben has been ranked right he'd erase the entire DB-verse.
What do you think about Ben being able to copy Saiyan, Legendary Saiyan (Since it counts as a mutation), Namekian, Tiens Triclops DNA, Frost Demon, Kanassan, Yardratian, Hedgehog-like Humanoid race, Cerealian, Devilman, Demon, Babadi's DNA, Buu's DNA, Kai, and finally... Even Angels and Omni-king?
Just a heads up, alien x can’t be damaged by different planet’s ecosystems or magic, as that was just a joke by one of the creators Edit: I just released, Ben could possible scan sonic and Kirby and turn into them, since sonic and Kirby are basically aliens and are intelligent enough to become transformations
The art director joked about that. That wasn’t one of the creators who said that. Matt Wayne who is one of the actual writers said Alien X can use mana.
It's interesting you brought up Atomix for radiation poison since Ben has another Alien that can do what you mentioned but taken to a whole new level. Gutrot. This alien is capable of creating gas and manipulate the compounds of it to do nearly anything he wants. In his first appearance Ben used him to create a sleep gas that he's fully immune to. Now think about it like this...Ben can not only make Mustard Gas but he'd likely be able to make one that melts your flesh on impact and shuts off your brain all while he's fully immune and standing in it. He weirdly has a lot of potential to just do whatever which feels weird for what is an alien made to be a living fart joke.
I have a fun idea: Natsu Naruto Meliodas Saitama Jotaro Luffy Deku Ichigo Satoru Goju Combine all of them into 1 composite body with an A x B = base form, but for all characters, it has all abilities and skill sets. Just... mash them into 1 character, and ig the "number powerlevel" could like country = 1, continent = 5, so 2 characters with continent level busting capabilities has a powerlevel of 25 or smth (this is a random powerlevel take this as you will) How far will this mashed up version of multiple protagonists last? If it's not enough, A^B multiplier. Random and maybe time consuming? Yes. Somewhat interesting to me? Yes
While I think the Ben 10 crowd kind of knew how this would go, I think it would've been more interesting to see how far each era of Ben could get, like could Ben's original 10 get through original Dragon Ball and even to the Saiyan Saga, then we can add in his original additionals like Waybig, or progress Ben into his Alien Force Omnitrix etc. In a sense, we give Ben more and more of his aliens until he *has* to use Alien X, or maybe he can even manage without. Something that wasn't brought up was also Ben could scan other aliens, so he could scan Vegeta and Frieza to make those fights at worst a stalemate, but the Omnitrix likely would be unable to scan mutants like Cell or magical beings like Majin Buu
Great video. A few bits of info are wrong, but the comments corrected you do it's good. But to address 0:18. As a long time Ben 10 fan the VAST MAJORITY of the fanbase finds that "art" of 10y/o Gwen repulsive. Most of the people who draw it typical don't have any knowledge of Ben 10 past the first series and so the fanbase doesn't claim them, we just ignore them.
I'm wondering if you did your proper research or went with what you knew because here is some important tidbits to note (note i don't hate the video or anything like that, i think is decent for the most part, just think i should give some criticism that is all) be warned there is a lot of text. 1-The ultimatrix is not a perfected omnitrix and more. The ultimatrix was a copy made by albedo (azmuth assistant which turn into a copy of ben and then a villain later on history) in order to beat ben, the idea of this device is to put the dna of the aliens on simulations of "worse case scenario" for about 1 million years, and then evolving into it which is generally considered the "ultimate form" is not specified what "worse case scenario" means but most people assume wars and etc with the ultima forms being generally combat focused because of it. Also worthy noting is that while the ultimatrix is only showed to transform some specific aliens over the years, technically speaking ANY alien can receive a ultimate form, so yes Ben with the ultimatrix could theorically speaking get freeza or saiyan dna and get a ultimate form for them, which would likely be very powerful, although ben would just use the skills/powers the alien in specific has, so for example ben copying goku dna and transforming into it, would not let him use the kamehameha as that is not a saiyan skill got from birth it's a technique goku learned, but stuff like for example ape transformation would be possible to do, also worthy noting is that ultimatrix, the omnitrix after being re-calibrated which ben had before the ultimatrix, and the actual perfect omnitrix which ben get after the ultimatrix, all allow ben not only to get the alien powers but also how to perfectly use them, so ben for example would not need to train in order to use the ape form/keep control, he would be able to use it perfectly and probably the same for the fake moon technique as that is a general saiyan ability. The issue with the ultimatrix is that albedo is not smart as azmuth and mostly made it on hurry/bad situations, so it has bugs and security issues which the omnitrix don't have, later on omniverse albedo make a new version of ultimatrix but ben not get to use that one, that version of ultimatrix not only is much better in general for security, bugs and etc it also has the additional function of allowing the user to change between ultimate forms of aliens without needing to change back into the original alien. 2-Power level and more stuff about the omnitrix. Sadly this is a thing which DB for sure has, even if the specific numbers of characters got removed from a certain point, aka train and get strong then beat up enemies, is unknown what power level ben would have after everything he went through, and is also unknown if transforming into say a saiyan or freeza species would allow ben to get the same amount of power levels, if ben transformed into a saiyan but it ended up having the power level as raditz during let's say dragon ball super, then ben would absolutely get trashed, but considering the insane potential freeza species has, if ben managed to copy freeza species dna then went on the hyperbolic time chamber, he would likely become omega op as that is literally how black freeza was made, it's unknown if that would be kept between ben forms, but i can see someone arguing that it would. Magic is not only a issue with alien X but the omnitrix as whole, for example the omnitrix has a function where if ben is close to dying, it transforms ben into the most suitable alien for the system on the database in order to stop that, yet that didn't stop ben from getting LITERALLY killed by magic on one of ultimate alien episodes, just to get ressurected later. Speaking of it, Ben 10 Omniverse gives ben a new omnitrix after he lost the ultimatrix, that version is the ACTUAL perfect version of the omnitrix, which according to the creators has 1,000,912 aliens, that is not counting the dna collection function which allow ben to collect dna from aliens and adding it to the omnitrix (which btw all versions of the omnitrix have this ability) something worthy noting is that the omnitrix issue with magic appear again as it cannot transform ben into beings made out of magic neither collect dna samples out of that, the omnitrix also only allow ben to transform into aliens which has a specific amount of sentience, so for example if there is a species of monsters which is alive yet just stay stopped because they have 0 sentience, the omnitrix won't allow ben to transform into that or collect that sample, and similar to other things.. Also something all versions of the omnitrix also has, is that ben will always transform on the "prime"/superior version of the species, think of it something similar to legendary super saiyan but not identical. At the end of the day ben surviving in dragon ball is all up to the debate, would power levels be kept between forms? would ben abilities be treated as a skill or unique abilities instead? would ben transforming into say a saiyan after collecting goku dna also copy his power level? and etc etc. But like you stated in the video i can see some arguments for example with goku resisting clockwork as he literally moves through time and space on his fight against hit, aka literally moving through time with kaioken, or certain villains resisting ghostfreak and etc etc. Overall for someone who is clearly not ben 10 fanboy/nerd like me, your video was not super terrible, i saw way worse takes on it than usual.
Yeah I went with like 50% memory and 50% research. Glad to hear it wasnt terrible. I try to make them entertaining for the most part so I do appreciate people correcting me in comments like this one. Together we can reach the best answers
@@ijudgeanime Also something i forgot to mention on the comment that you didn't mention on the video, during omniverse story at a certain point ben get full control of alien x aka he can freely use the powers of him without needing to argue with the other personalities. So depending on which ben you're using, that can be a game changer.
0:34 roshi looking at kids. And and the characters touching each other inappropriately consistently in OG dragonball primarily with young teen bulma (who's like 12-14) ☠️☠️☠️ Also let's not pretend like the dragonball fanbase didn't make a large section of the r34 about Pan due to a lack of female characters during the GT era 💀 I'm just saying. If ben 10, and mha fans (who focus on high schoolers and have a fanbase of also high schoolers) who ain't even here are catching strays then we might as well have everyone catch strays
Ok. Im a fan of both ben 10 and dragon ball and there are some miscalculations on your part. 1. Alien x completely agree, no arguments. 2. Ghost freak- vegeta and trunks have both shown that they can fight/ resist possession so many of the z fighter's could overcome this. 3. Jetray- The neural shocks in theory could work but again, depending on the z fighter they physically could resist the blast. If they can withstand planetary attacks I'm fairly certain neural shocks aren't going to work. 4. Nanomech- shrinking down and doing internal damage is plausible but it depends on their internal durability which has never been explored in dragon ball. Also nanomech has never shown the ability to grow beyond his microscopic size so the idea of him pulling an antman isn't there unless been switches like his battle against gwen but even then depending on the power of the dragon ball character he may not be strong enough to rupture anything. Like blowing up a balloon inside of a bottle, the balloon isn't strong enough to break out of the bottle. Or how vegito was able to condense buu in his body and have complete control over him. 5. Clockwork- if he ages them or deages them that could work but stopping time, they could power through like how goku and jiren did against hit. 6. Atomix- no arguments 7. Ultimate ben- no arguments.
I might be wrong but I think Ben unlocked full control of alien x in the omniverse episode “universe vs Tennyson” and later he used alien x casually against the rooters
Yea he did and in a later episode Ben used Alien x again against the rooters/plumbers helpers without the debate and rook tells argit “Ben has control over alien x”
If we go by age wise, Ben probably make it to Saiyan Saga at best since there's no malware to destroy feedback meaning no not using the omnitrix for 1 year leading to the recalbration update for the omnitrix, meaning not so good failsafes, He's pretty much screwed if OS was sent in, if it was UAF or OV tho, that prob be a different story.
Actually it has been confirmed that the Dragon Ball universe has a will of it own. Because of the Angels in Dragon Ball they can do anything like Alien X. The universe can reject them and make them cease to exist. So it's possible he can either get erased or just rejected from the universe. Also Alien X can affect one universe that he's in. It has been shown the Omni King affect multiple universes just being in one. Alien X can affect Universe 7 but universe 6 because that's a different Universe because he's not in. I really think the Omni King can just destroy him easily. He works on the same principle as the bomb from Ben 10. The bomb destroyed every version of Ben they had to watch no matter what form he was in. He can erase every version of Ben if they piss him off or every version of the watch. If Ben ever try him scan him he's going to just destroy the watch.
I know people probably have told you this, but Ben has already gained full control of alien x, but doesn’t have the cosmic knowledge that the other minds has. I also don’t think ultimate Ben should have been in the discussion due to him only really because he’s pretty weak compared to other Ben 10k. I would also include Way Big in this discussion due to them canonically being born in cosmic storms, and causally destroy planets. Way Big would definitely get Ben far into the Saiyan saga in my opinion, possibly ultimate Way Big getting even further due to him hurting Daggon, a multiversal being who was hurt by ULT waybig’s attacks.
Find a fact, the Omnitrix will let the alien survive in whatever habitat it needs to. Or at least the completed omnitrix for example, there’s an alien who doesn’t work with us gravity, so the Omnitrix made a gravity stabilizer that would keep Ben safe. Also 6:07 Ben gets free access at the end of the series
The main advantage of ben in dragon ball isnt an obvious one like the scan, the versatility, or the power, its bens mind, bens mental dexterity is no joke, in a fight between ben (when he had master control), vilgax, and mutated kevin in the null void, ben seapped between multiple aliens knowing what to do before swapping to avoid getting hit while fighting back, he seapped between most of his aliens in seconds to avoid kevin, null void creatures, and vilgax, this was in classic alone, if we included UAF and omniverse, ben is also stated to be similar to task master and batman, batmans total IQ with task masters copy, ben himself learned how to fight by copying video games and gwen, even off of his own villains, ben has magic resistance with terraspin, energy absorption with feedback and chromastone, mental attacks with peskydust and ghostfreak, besides the top tiers ben can use any he likes, heck cell isnt even a threat to ben if ben uses clockwork or water hazard, and he can hot swap all these forms like hes playing dante must die DMC1-5.
Honestly surprised you didn't mention the DNA scanning the Omintrix can do. If Ben wanted to he can just scan Goku and beat his ass with a cracked-out Broly form.
If i am NOT wrong, in future trunk's time line, in which goha trains him and lost an arm to the still evil androids, guko died duo a sickness, i Belive cancer, so i radiations May work if they are not in there any of there 1000912 god forms, or, you know, wishing anything from the dragons
He doesn't even bring up that Ben could literally scan aliens and become them. The best version of them. The omnitrix selects that species and makes him the perfect specimen of his age, they say this in the show. And he might not be able to do this with the earthlings cuz they got their strength from training, not genetics, and androids either, broly idk cuz he got it from a prophecy, and the whole thing in goku vs vegeta's fight was the hardworking low class warrior vs the elite. HOWEVER, he could just absorb frieza, or even beerus, or jiren or hit or anyone else, and maybe even the angels or zeno lol.
well nanomech wouldn't be able to be sent to because he is technically an Android and also a same with atomix & clockwork and his other robotic aliens also, pretty sure at some point, Ben was given full control over the alien x form because he convinced the other personalities to just go back in the recesses of the form's mind and Baker all they like And then also a couple of bens speedster forms.would do a pretty good job, because one can literally create dimensional timeline, distortions and spay, sickly split into alternate versions of itself to hit from multiple angles whenever it feels like and then there's another one, that's so fast to the point where to it, it is basically stopping time
@Rave165 There is no concrete justification for the Omniverse Omnitrix to be known as better. Its user interface is unnecessarily more difficult than any previous version. It gives Ben the wrong alien far too often, and its time limit is highly dysfunctional.
@@AmitCinematicUniverseSame ultimatrix is the best evolution in the Future its gon be look like that are you waiting or what you are gon be dead then just use it earlier bro 💀 the owners never think
Alien X is not a true omnipotent and gets mogged by anyone stronger than Beerus, who scales above literal Japanese Bugs Bunny, Arale. Unless you don't accept the Arale meta.
Theoretically speaking, if Ben could repair genetic material with the recalibrated omnitrix and the completed variant.. He could probably fix frieza’s mutated biology, which is one of his family’s main reasons for their malevolence and frieza’s race aren’t the case of this.. The cold family was just an outlier from the rest of their race, so maybe if the watch repaired them, there’s bound to be some kind of changes in their ways.
Mutations aren't specifically malicious, unless the mutation is also super cancer or something I doubt it would change anything. Ironically the whole "peak of the species" thing just makes Ben's version of his aliens mutants
@@arkkon2740 Yeah but in this case, it’s why Frieza is kinda the way he is.. It’s pretty much in his nature, Frieza’s race just being evil was a misconception because of that very fact.
@@Hawk-yq4ln So when was it ever said that a single mutation causes both a natural increase in power along with a personality disorder? Minus the fact that a physical mutation probably has no barings on a spiritual concept and its just for Toriyama's sci-fi kink at the time, where did this come from?
@@arkkon2740 I’m pretty sure you’ve told an example of that on the first one, I don’t think I gotta go through with that one.. And that’s certainly the case with Frieza since his mutation gave him a power boost, as for the personality disorder.. Toriyama pretty much confirms that the mutations contributed to the reason of Frieza’s cruelty.
@@Hawk-yq4ln we've just started talking idk where you remember me from 🧍♂️ And is this another of those "Toriyama yaps on an interview because he isn't feel like writing it" moments?
The omnitrix wasn't a prototype ultimatrix, the ultimatrix was a knockoff made by the omnitrix creator's assistant and it lacked a lot of the quality of life features that the original omnitrix had
How far would these three characters go in Dragon Ball video ideas: Mordecai and Rigby from Regular Show Lord Drakkon from Power Rangers Pegasus Seiya from Saint Seiya
Mostly valid but micro mech couldn't kill via expansion if someone is stronger or more durable I could see it working early on but it would not work on anyone stronger then king piccolo
None of these aliens will be able to do ANYTHING to a Dragon Ball Character except Alien X but most likely would NOT be able to get past Zeno due to Zeno being stated to "Annihilate or anything regardless of complexity or scale". Also, nanomech simply wouldn't work, most likely would be crushed inside, just think about being teleported in a small space (smaller than your body size) inside something made out of the strongest material times 5, you would die. Jetray wouldn't work at all, some strong beings COULD handle it without being knocked, like Humungosaur for example. For the whole video, you kind of make it seem as the DB Characters would stand still, those characters are around a few DECILLION times faster than speed of light, scaled. Not hating on the video, found it interesting and saw your arguments, it just wouldn't work lol
Also, Dragon Ball Characters have been shown to be vulnerable to chemical/poison attacks, see Gohan’s fight with that fox guy before the TOP. One of Ben’s transformations named GutRot knows every chemical in existence and can create said chemicals out of nothing. Meaning, aside from Buu, Ben could just gas the Z fighters.
Also, his Upchuck transformation as well as his FeedBack transformation could basically do the Super 17 strategy of absorbing energy blasts and throwing them right back.
The Omnitrix would copy the DNA and process it to its fittest form of the age of Ben and with the ultimatrix can use it to place that already prime DNA through 10 million years of war to evolve it
@@ijudgeanime they are alien and when Ben scan Saiyan DNA he probably won't be like Goku but probably more like broly a peak Saiyan who keeps getting Stronger
It depends on when Ben appears, if Young Ben appears in classic he absolotely would solo everything except maybe Goku or Piccolo, but he would easily adapt and sscale up in power from there. if he pops in Z he wouldnt have an easy time or many chances to grow up as a fighter
Those weaknesses for Alien X mentioned like magic and that certain planet he can’t survive is invalid. They were never shown in series. The guy who said those statements was Derrick J Wyatt. He’s was not even the writer nor creator of Ben 10 just the art director. Majority of statements are contradicted and proven wrong. He even admitted that his statements are just jokes and he was trolling.
@@ijudgeanime yeah one of the true writers Matt Wayne said that Alien X can use magic and Alien X should be above the Alpha Rune an item that controls all magic in the Ben 10 verse.
Oh that planet you mentioned Alien X can’t survive is called Anur Vladias which is fan made. Not just the art director, the writers/creators were unaware that Anur Vladias was fan made. Also it wouldn’t make any sense for Alien X to die from it considering he tanked the device that destroyed everything within the verse which would include Anur Vladias.
Franckly you slightly downplayed Ben in my opinion First off the whole debate thing ? Yeah not an issue as Ben asked them to " give him the keys to alien X" in ov ( don't remember the exact episode) And also he can scan aliens at a distance so he can scan saiyens ( not mutants so no freezer or cell) and he can go ultimate if you are going with that. The ultimate is basically placing the species in a war case scenario for over a million years and taking the new DNA... That would take advantage of the huge potential of a saiyen ( take the difference between kid Goku and Gohan at the same age and stretch that over generations and you would get a busted result) Also if stuff like alien X has DNA beings like the Kai's beerus or whis and even grand priest and zenoh are not out of the question
@@ijudgeanime I discovered this game on my search on the retroactivements database and played it on my totally-not-emulator, haven't finished it yet but it was a fun experience
Yeah, Ben being in "???" tier list alongside my boy Sonic is pretty well deserved if I'm gonna be honest Can you do Spawn, Shadow the Hedgehog, Rex Salazar from Generator Rex, Samus Aran from Metroid, or Dante, Vergil, or Nero from Devil May Cry?
ok this is where i have to draw some lines. because ben 10 is not some omnipotent godlike being and even ailen x is limited by not only ben being human aka not having omniscience but also limited by the fact that his species can lose seen in the gladator fight another one was the big bang feat by feedback if ailen x is all powerful why didnt that work but feedback did and whatever reason u give is just showing a flaw in ailen x because OMNIPOTENT MEANS OMNIPOTENT THERE SHOULDNT BE A FLAW HERE. as for ben's scanning u can make that case of scanning a sayian or frieza clan etc but that isn't going to help because ben still wouldnt have god ki so forms like ui and ue wouldnt help at best he would be like a super sayian 3 or 4 (and im being generous since similar to the ultimate ailens there is no confirming that ben would just auto get ssj). Another thing ben has muiltple different forms and scalings for them and i feel it would be more interesting in this case. In short i dont stand with the ben omnipotent stuff and i don't stand with the ben easily winning this hell i argue ben is at max mutilversal and the big defining factor is hax so i could see him stopping at zeno/ super shenron at high end or moro at low end this is due to magic doing very well against him like when he challenges gwen..
I see it this way... Buhan would destroy Universe 7 just with the pressure of his absurd Ki... and even then Vegetto SS1 beat him up Buhan used magic to transform Vegetto into a chocolate candy and Vegetto SS1 beat him up anyway. My point is, the current characters in DB far surpass anything Vegito could do in Z, so I don't think Alien X is capable of surpassing Resurrection F at most.
3:42 You got the lore wrong, the omnitrix isn't the prototype of the ultimatrix. In classic ben got the prototype omnitrix, in alien force ben puts back the device who in consequence of being inactive for a long time, recalibrate. Later ben destroy the watch by using it's self destruct function and takes Albedo's ultimatrix (the ultimatrix is a device made by combining Azmuth's unfinished ultimatrix and Albedo's omnitrix replica) wich can evolve the alien into a more "prepared for war" form. Then after THIS device gets destroyed Azmuth give ben the official omnitrix from wich the first one was the prototype
You know that he can just scan zeno and angels or god of Destruction but i don't think zeno is gon allow him to scan him or his Fried i forget his name the father of all Angels the strongest angel maybe he could but if he he is gon do something bad then he is gon try to kill him or something like that i think he can just use hakai and delete him in his human form and omnitrix too but that clockwork can do that too i don't know if omnitrix can survive really anithing i think omnitrix need better upgrade from anithing bad
It’s actually arguable if any time related abilities would work on ToP characters since Goku during that arc was stated to Transcend the Concept of Time…
I just love how Ben doesn't need other abilities the Omnitrix provides like near immortality or scanning other aliens to solo the verse, imagine Ben facing Frieza, casually scans him with the omnitrix and transforms into him
I mean techincally he could scan goku and just become him. Its a broken little toy lol
@@ijudgeanime fun fact ben can use the omnitrix to fix alien dna or even change it like he can just cure cancer
@@سيد-ف1ح All the more reasons why the Omnitrix is so good to have
@@ijudgeanime well,he would need to manually learn his abilities tho,as that,is ki control,not biological stuff,but he would have base stats that are basically god for saiyans (as u become a "peak" of the species) so...unless u become like yamoshi (the..uk,first super saiyan god) in base,a saiyan form wouldnt be THAT good
@@shadicwpm6290 True it would prob be like ginyu and black. he'd need to get used to the powers for sure
88 aliens shown on screen. Theirs well over a million dna samples in the Omnitrix. The main reason why Ben 10k is called that is because he can transform into ten thousand different aliens. Also the only watch that perfectly recreates an alien is the Ultimatrix. The other versions of the Omnitrix turn the user into a peak specimen of the dna. Pretty good video honestly even with the stuff that wasn’t mentioned. Doesn’t help that I know quite a bit about Ben from the original continuity.
Thanks man, Love reading constructive feedback tho. Intelectuals are always welcome in my comment section 🫡
You’re welcome man, Glad I can give good constructive criticism. If you missed some things not the end of the world. But your end result with Ben’s scaling is something I completely agree with.
Name all them thx
Little thing about ultimatrix. It wasn't a perfected version of the omnitrix, it was made by Albedo using the core of said ultimatrix and while it had a neat function of making your aliens more combat-oriented, it also had lots of bugs, most prominent is the rebellion of ultimates. Omniverse omnitrix is the perfect version of omnitrix.
Aaaah I see. I always thought the ultimatrix was the perfected version. You learn something new every day
@@ijudgeanimefunnily azmuth says that the ultimatrix was a cheap copy of the true omnitrix to the point that the ultimatrix wasn't worthy for ben , so he gave him the the complete omnitrix.
@@ijudgeanime It is what it is when you haven't watched all of Ben 10's original timeline and I wouldn't blame anyone. It is a lot to take in.
I look at the ultimatrix a cheat that has tons of bugs plus it loses the main purpose of the watch which is to walk in another person's shoe. You show an alien what the could be in a harsh environment could cause issues with them.
It’s funny to me how future Ben made a omnitrix that is probably stronger than the perfected omnitrix and I know that he uses the smartest aliens he has but still it’s just weird how the azmuth couldn’t make a fusion and powerful omnitrix.
Slight correction*
By the end of the series, Ben has full control of Alien X & doesn't have to argue with the other two minds anymore
Wrong. read the producer interviews. Ben still needs to argue, but we don't see it
@@dereklyma6310 he quite literally makes the agreement with them in the show
Oh never came acros this one. But if thats true hed be even more broken
@@dereklyma6310they gave him full control so just the heads could bicker
@@ijudgeanimesource is universe vs Tennyson episode from omniverse
the idea of alien x can't survive in some planet was a joke from derrick J.wyatt since he jokes alot and he all ready survive the annilhilarg which is worse than any planet
Plus Derrick J Wyatt was not even a writer nor creator of Ben just the art director
There is also the fact that Ben 10k has Biomnitrix, which fuses two of his aliens into one, making him even more powerful.
Yeah thats what i meant with the fusions. Its a pretty stong ability
@@ijudgeanime I know, but you mentioned it a bit briefly so I thought I might as well comment.
Btw. it should also be mentioned that Ben gained later more complete control over Alien-X so getting other personalities would be less of a factor and Alien-X also has base durability that let's him survive annihilation of the universe.
Anyway, great video, very nice to watch.
@@crimsonhunter7598 CloX
@@crimsonhunter7598a fusion of alien x and clockwork should be eternal x.
Not more powerful. Just more versatile. Like his goop and humungousaur fusion. He loses the ability to grow stronger by literally growing bigger, but a trade off is Goop’s acidic body which melts most things.
Just like Atomix. He loses his cosmic celestial powers in exchange for more powerful controlled nuclear energy physical attacks.
I could really go on and on about this but you probably get the point.
these two fandoms 🤝
Ben Tennyson could get a dragon clan namekian transformation and create dragon balls but he would only be able to activate those dragon balls when he's in the dragon clan namekian transformation
Hmm interesting theory. But actually the DNA sample is still alive just contained in the Omnitrix for later use. Which means the dragon balls created in this fusion wouldn’t turn to stone when Ben transforms back into human.
If you’re confused by this. There’s an episode in Ultimate Alien showing that Ben’s ultimates are alive in the Omnitrix. So it’s reasonable to say Ben’s regular aliens are alive in the Omnitrix and not dead but contained deep inside.
He could just scan shenron and be him and then Infinite wishes 😂
As a wise man said "We let him cook for a reason"
Ben 10 cooked me whilst making this video 😤
My only argument would be how long it takes to activate his Omnitrix and Transforming, if he doesn't have master control, then he could be outspeed before he touches the watch, but if he does have master control, then unless the character are faster than thought, then it could go either way.
(Kumagawa Misogi pwease)
Yeah I tend to kind of ignore thise things. I know its not technically the best way to do things. But I wanna give them a chance. I wont discredit the argument tho
@@ijudgeanime kk
Eh no even if he doesn't have master control it will do it for him the failsafe will protect him and even without that he definitely can process things incredibly fast especially to react to lasers
I later series, Ben can go from alien to alien, while it is not time-limited, it is more stanima limited.
Completed Omnitrix can react to the big bang at point blank which is like. Idek how to describe how fast an explosion has to be to create an entire universe with infinite branching timelines all in one go but yeah
Also Kumagawa unfortunately loses against the DB verse pretty handily. He can't come back from EE since damage that cannot be undone will perma kill him so Goku, Vegeta, and all of the GoDs have a pretty easy wincon (obviously obtainable due to the insane speed difference). Also it's debatable whether All Fiction would even be able to affect people on the level of the Gods since it was unable to affect Iihiko due to him being "on another level" compared to the main cast in terms of raw stats. All this on top of the fact that it is just in his character to lose.
One thing that I like to mention is that magic was never shown to affect alien x in the show and I believe one of the creators said he can manipulate Nana.
AYYY, hella excited dawg
Edit: this is honestly everything i wanted and expected it to be.
glad to see you enjoyed! making my stuff entertaining is prio 1
People who realise that if Ben scans piccolo he'll turn to zalama ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
For an channel who isn't an ben 10 channel, you pretty much have been right about the confrontations, the infos you got wrong are:
nanomech: he can shrink, but he can not grow past his normal size and btw nanomech is the only fusion of the omnitrix (half human and half chip) and if we take the video i can say that you maked an exception for him without you knowing about this
ultimatrix: in short it is an garage invention by albedo that was originally made by azmuth and it might be more powerful than the prototype omnitrix, but is still full of bugs and glitches such as echo echo clonating objects and also making the clones turn into copies of the user upon forcing an detransformation and the master control having less security and as such easily hacked
bonus: if ben trained more on chromastone he could really be more useful against the DB universe because an alien of chromastone's species was showed flying and reconstructing an entire planet, so yeah chromastone is powerful if ben used him properly
Chromostone is not really a species but a singular entity. Still though, he'd be useless in modern DB, especially since his energy absorption has a major limit. Feedback is where it's at.
Do you think upgrade could be useful? He’s able to possess any type of machinery and as the name implies it, upgrade it, so couldn’t he for example, possess android 19 to fight 20, 16 to fight 17 and 18, gamma 1 to fight gamma 2 and so on?
Mhm yeah thats interesting. I feel like it would only work on the pure machine androids for sure. But that could ve an interesting way to create infighting. Nkt a bad idea at all man
Yeah he can if he is gon have something electronic on him then yes but if its just human then no and i think he could uograde every alien or get the master control graymatter and other smart alies can do that too
Now don't get me wrong Ben 10 is OP level good and his Omnitrix watch don't underestimate what it can transform into
yh i would love to have my own omnitrix for.... reasons
@@ijudgeanime Understandable
"I don't like to joke about serious illnesses"
Me, an epileptic: 🤨
Kakarot, this cancer thing is pretty strong. I … don’t think I can beat it.
Lmao the bald vegeta is canon in this video
Something I like to add:
Ben is actually the most peak human specimen. I mean years of having the omnitrix can do that for you. I mean look at him he’s mastered dozens of martial arts, is an acrobat, can dodge lasers, has Impeccable memory and so much more. Heck even Ultimate Ben 10,000 backs this argument up he’s the ultimate version of an adult ben yet he looks just a little aged up and is jacked. Like bro don’t disrespect my homie Ben Tennyson ever again. He isn’t just the aliens he is HIM!
Okay have not seen anyone else mention this but here we go. Alien ex post Omniverse is under ben's full control, the downside is he doesn't have guidance on how these powers work and has to wing it, even so he went toe to toe with another of his kind and won afterwards.
As someone who isent familiar with ben 10 i think you did a great job explaining the series and the monsters he has.
yeah be sure to check the wiki for all of his aliens. Pretty interesting actually
"Y'all do realize Gwen is like a 10 year old girl, right? Like, literally 10 years old."
*THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYIN'*
The wild part is there is like...3 official adult Gwen designs and I hardly see those in images.
Fun fact the omnitrix will scan unknown dna samples and give Ben access. Said transformation will also be the peak of said species so for example if he’s in contact with Goni he becomes a prime saiyan like Broly. Also last fun fact Jeytay is ftl so he keeps up with most main cast
1:50 - ''And I use the term loosely'' - Dr Psychobos 😄
Been a Ben 10 fan, Ben 10 wiki editor for well over 6-7 years and my answer will always be.
Depends on "where" people scale him really....
Yeah that's a fair position to take. The "where aspect" matters a lot on where you could rank him for sure
@@ijudgeanime There will always be people out there who will highball him and claim he's unbeatable which is obviously false, Doesn't matter if you're someone as a strong as Ninja Turtle's and can punch a few walls or you're a Cosmic God who can affect multiple universes like we see in Marvel & DC comics. The point is........ there will ALWAYS be someone out there with more broken abilities/Hax/ reality warping or whatever terminology you want to use. Ben 10 has more than 300 episodes, Several comic, video games and finding consistent feats with legit consistency to scale him is a difficult job In fact it's one of the most toughest task out there for any power scaler as you essentially needs to write a cosmology blog And people barely have time for that stuff, We all have personal lives. It all comes down to "where" and "how" you scale him really.
@@DemonArshan Yeah I 100% agree. I usually have the same thing with Goku. People who say no one can beat Goku are just straight up wrong. It all depends on the when, where and how you place him. Keep on doing the good work for the Ben10 wiki my guy✌️
Spoilers: Ben Solos
pretty much lol
😂😂😂😂 Jetray Vegeta his namesake and Nanomech pulling an Ant-Man on Goku are good ones.
There is also the DNA scanner fonction that if Saiyan DNA is scanned he'd basically become Broly.
Ben has been ranked right he'd erase the entire DB-verse.
What do you think about Ben being able to copy Saiyan, Legendary Saiyan (Since it counts as a mutation), Namekian, Tiens Triclops DNA, Frost Demon, Kanassan, Yardratian, Hedgehog-like Humanoid race, Cerealian, Devilman, Demon, Babadi's DNA, Buu's DNA, Kai, and finally... Even Angels and Omni-king?
He can't scan mutants
@@TyshaggyGaming ... He literally can
Just a heads up, alien x can’t be damaged by different planet’s ecosystems or magic, as that was just a joke by one of the creators
Edit: I just released, Ben could possible scan sonic and Kirby and turn into them, since sonic and Kirby are basically aliens and are intelligent enough to become transformations
The art director joked about that. That wasn’t one of the creators who said that. Matt Wayne who is one of the actual writers said Alien X can use mana.
The problem is... Alien x doesn't have that weakness thanks to Omniverse since he got full control of it so he solos
It's interesting you brought up Atomix for radiation poison since Ben has another Alien that can do what you mentioned but taken to a whole new level. Gutrot. This alien is capable of creating gas and manipulate the compounds of it to do nearly anything he wants. In his first appearance Ben used him to create a sleep gas that he's fully immune to. Now think about it like this...Ben can not only make Mustard Gas but he'd likely be able to make one that melts your flesh on impact and shuts off your brain all while he's fully immune and standing in it. He weirdly has a lot of potential to just do whatever which feels weird for what is an alien made to be a living fart joke.
I have a fun idea:
Natsu
Naruto
Meliodas
Saitama
Jotaro
Luffy
Deku
Ichigo
Satoru Goju
Combine all of them into 1 composite body with an A x B = base form, but for all characters, it has all abilities and skill sets. Just... mash them into 1 character, and ig the "number powerlevel" could like country = 1, continent = 5, so 2 characters with continent level busting capabilities has a powerlevel of 25 or smth (this is a random powerlevel take this as you will)
How far will this mashed up version of multiple protagonists last?
If it's not enough, A^B multiplier.
Random and maybe time consuming? Yes.
Somewhat interesting to me? Yes
While I think the Ben 10 crowd kind of knew how this would go, I think it would've been more interesting to see how far each era of Ben could get, like could Ben's original 10 get through original Dragon Ball and even to the Saiyan Saga, then we can add in his original additionals like Waybig, or progress Ben into his Alien Force Omnitrix etc.
In a sense, we give Ben more and more of his aliens until he *has* to use Alien X, or maybe he can even manage without.
Something that wasn't brought up was also Ben could scan other aliens, so he could scan Vegeta and Frieza to make those fights at worst a stalemate, but the Omnitrix likely would be unable to scan mutants like Cell or magical beings like Majin Buu
Clockwork can stop and slow down time so you ain't dodging crap
Great video. A few bits of info are wrong, but the comments corrected you do it's good. But to address 0:18. As a long time Ben 10 fan the VAST MAJORITY of the fanbase finds that "art" of 10y/o Gwen repulsive. Most of the people who draw it typical don't have any knowledge of Ben 10 past the first series and so the fanbase doesn't claim them, we just ignore them.
With the Ultimatrix, Ben scans Goku and becomes Broly. GG EZ.
if ben didn't have the omnitrix, he would be the strongest human
but if he had the omnitrix, he would've soloed both ways.
I'm wondering if you did your proper research or went with what you knew because here is some important tidbits to note (note i don't hate the video or anything like that, i think is decent for the most part, just think i should give some criticism that is all) be warned there is a lot of text.
1-The ultimatrix is not a perfected omnitrix and more.
The ultimatrix was a copy made by albedo (azmuth assistant which turn into a copy of ben and then a villain later on history) in order to beat ben, the idea of this device is to put the dna of the aliens on simulations of "worse case scenario" for about 1 million years, and then evolving into it which is generally considered the "ultimate form" is not specified what "worse case scenario" means but most people assume wars and etc with the ultima forms being generally combat focused because of it.
Also worthy noting is that while the ultimatrix is only showed to transform some specific aliens over the years, technically speaking ANY alien can receive a ultimate form, so yes Ben with the ultimatrix could theorically speaking get freeza or saiyan dna and get a ultimate form for them, which would likely be very powerful, although ben would just use the skills/powers the alien in specific has, so for example ben copying goku dna and transforming into it, would not let him use the kamehameha as that is not a saiyan skill got from birth it's a technique goku learned, but stuff like for example ape transformation would be possible to do, also worthy noting is that ultimatrix, the omnitrix after being re-calibrated which ben had before the ultimatrix, and the actual perfect omnitrix which ben get after the ultimatrix, all allow ben not only to get the alien powers but also how to perfectly use them, so ben for example would not need to train in order to use the ape form/keep control, he would be able to use it perfectly and probably the same for the fake moon technique as that is a general saiyan ability.
The issue with the ultimatrix is that albedo is not smart as azmuth and mostly made it on hurry/bad situations, so it has bugs and security issues which the omnitrix don't have, later on omniverse albedo make a new version of ultimatrix but ben not get to use that one, that version of ultimatrix not only is much better in general for security, bugs and etc it also has the additional function of allowing the user to change between ultimate forms of aliens without needing to change back into the original alien.
2-Power level and more stuff about the omnitrix.
Sadly this is a thing which DB for sure has, even if the specific numbers of characters got removed from a certain point, aka train and get strong then beat up enemies, is unknown what power level ben would have after everything he went through, and is also unknown if transforming into say a saiyan or freeza species would allow ben to get the same amount of power levels, if ben transformed into a saiyan but it ended up having the power level as raditz during let's say dragon ball super, then ben would absolutely get trashed, but considering the insane potential freeza species has, if ben managed to copy freeza species dna then went on the hyperbolic time chamber, he would likely become omega op as that is literally how black freeza was made, it's unknown if that would be kept between ben forms, but i can see someone arguing that it would.
Magic is not only a issue with alien X but the omnitrix as whole, for example the omnitrix has a function where if ben is close to dying, it transforms ben into the most suitable alien for the system on the database in order to stop that, yet that didn't stop ben from getting LITERALLY killed by magic on one of ultimate alien episodes, just to get ressurected later.
Speaking of it, Ben 10 Omniverse gives ben a new omnitrix after he lost the ultimatrix, that version is the ACTUAL perfect version of the omnitrix, which according to the creators has 1,000,912 aliens, that is not counting the dna collection function which allow ben to collect dna from aliens and adding it to the omnitrix (which btw all versions of the omnitrix have this ability) something worthy noting is that the omnitrix issue with magic appear again as it cannot transform ben into beings made out of magic neither collect dna samples out of that, the omnitrix also only allow ben to transform into aliens which has a specific amount of sentience, so for example if there is a species of monsters which is alive yet just stay stopped because they have 0 sentience, the omnitrix won't allow ben to transform into that or collect that sample, and similar to other things..
Also something all versions of the omnitrix also has, is that ben will always transform on the "prime"/superior version of the species, think of it something similar to legendary super saiyan but not identical.
At the end of the day ben surviving in dragon ball is all up to the debate, would power levels be kept between forms? would ben abilities be treated as a skill or unique abilities instead? would ben transforming into say a saiyan after collecting goku dna also copy his power level? and etc etc.
But like you stated in the video i can see some arguments for example with goku resisting clockwork as he literally moves through time and space on his fight against hit, aka literally moving through time with kaioken, or certain villains resisting ghostfreak and etc etc.
Overall for someone who is clearly not ben 10 fanboy/nerd like me, your video was not super terrible, i saw way worse takes on it than usual.
Yeah I went with like 50% memory and 50% research. Glad to hear it wasnt terrible. I try to make them entertaining for the most part so I do appreciate people correcting me in comments like this one. Together we can reach the best answers
@@ijudgeanime Also something i forgot to mention on the comment that you didn't mention on the video, during omniverse story at a certain point ben get full control of alien x aka he can freely use the powers of him without needing to argue with the other personalities.
So depending on which ben you're using, that can be a game changer.
What about fusions, way big and gravatack gravity and black hole manipulation
There’s also Ultimate Way who hurt Dagon and cut off one of his tentacles. Dagon is an extra dimensional being as well.
Can you do Mash Burndead from Mashle Magic and Muscle vs Dragon Ball?
0:34 roshi looking at kids. And and the characters touching each other inappropriately consistently in OG dragonball primarily with young teen bulma (who's like 12-14) ☠️☠️☠️
Also let's not pretend like the dragonball fanbase didn't make a large section of the r34 about Pan due to a lack of female characters during the GT era 💀
I'm just saying. If ben 10, and mha fans (who focus on high schoolers and have a fanbase of also high schoolers) who ain't even here are catching strays then we might as well have everyone catch strays
Ok. Im a fan of both ben 10 and dragon ball and there are some miscalculations on your part.
1. Alien x completely agree, no arguments.
2. Ghost freak- vegeta and trunks have both shown that they can fight/ resist possession so many of the z fighter's could overcome this.
3. Jetray- The neural shocks in theory could work but again, depending on the z fighter they physically could resist the blast. If they can withstand planetary attacks I'm fairly certain neural shocks aren't going to work.
4. Nanomech- shrinking down and doing internal damage is plausible but it depends on their internal durability which has never been explored in dragon ball. Also nanomech has never shown the ability to grow beyond his microscopic size so the idea of him pulling an antman isn't there unless been switches like his battle against gwen but even then depending on the power of the dragon ball character he may not be strong enough to rupture anything. Like blowing up a balloon inside of a bottle, the balloon isn't strong enough to break out of the bottle. Or how vegito was able to condense buu in his body and have complete control over him.
5. Clockwork- if he ages them or deages them that could work but stopping time, they could power through like how goku and jiren did against hit.
6. Atomix- no arguments
7. Ultimate ben- no arguments.
I might be wrong but I think Ben unlocked full control of alien x in the omniverse episode “universe vs Tennyson” and later he used alien x casually against the rooters
Yh I've heard similar things from other commentors
Yea he did and in a later episode Ben used Alien x again against the rooters/plumbers helpers without the debate and rook tells argit “Ben has control over alien x”
Ben can control Alien x in omnivers
7:18 That child has a watch, he might be able to scan my DNA and use my Saiyan heritage against me, but he's still a child!
Wasn't gohan a child when he went ssj2 before you and goku, and killed a main antagonist?
This is in a Tein voice.
Suggestion: How far would Akuma from Street Fighter get in DB
Radiation wouldn't affect anyone with self sustenance or immortality
If we go by age wise, Ben probably make it to Saiyan Saga at best since there's no malware to destroy feedback meaning no not using the omnitrix for 1 year leading to the recalbration update for the omnitrix, meaning not so good failsafes, He's pretty much screwed if OS was sent in, if it was UAF or OV tho, that prob be a different story.
Actually it has been confirmed that the Dragon Ball universe has a will of it own. Because of the Angels in Dragon Ball they can do anything like Alien X. The universe can reject them and make them cease to exist. So it's possible he can either get erased or just rejected from the universe. Also Alien X can affect one universe that he's in. It has been shown the Omni King affect multiple universes just being in one. Alien X can affect Universe 7 but universe 6 because that's a different Universe because he's not in. I really think the Omni King can just destroy him easily. He works on the same principle as the bomb from Ben 10. The bomb destroyed every version of Ben they had to watch no matter what form he was in. He can erase every version of Ben if they piss him off or every version of the watch. If Ben ever try him scan him he's going to just destroy the watch.
I know people probably have told you this, but Ben has already gained full control of alien x, but doesn’t have the cosmic knowledge that the other minds has.
I also don’t think ultimate Ben should have been in the discussion due to him only really because he’s pretty weak compared to other Ben 10k. I would also include Way Big in this discussion due to them canonically being born in cosmic storms, and causally destroy planets. Way Big would definitely get Ben far into the Saiyan saga in my opinion, possibly ultimate Way Big getting even further due to him hurting Daggon, a multiversal being who was hurt by ULT waybig’s attacks.
Find a fact, the Omnitrix will let the alien survive in whatever habitat it needs to. Or at least the completed omnitrix for example, there’s an alien who doesn’t work with us gravity, so the Omnitrix made a gravity stabilizer that would keep Ben safe. Also 6:07 Ben gets free access at the end of the series
I like the unique choices like ghost freak, jet ray with hyper space speed and nanomech is funny to go ant man technique
The main advantage of ben in dragon ball isnt an obvious one like the scan, the versatility, or the power, its bens mind, bens mental dexterity is no joke, in a fight between ben (when he had master control), vilgax, and mutated kevin in the null void, ben seapped between multiple aliens knowing what to do before swapping to avoid getting hit while fighting back, he seapped between most of his aliens in seconds to avoid kevin, null void creatures, and vilgax, this was in classic alone, if we included UAF and omniverse, ben is also stated to be similar to task master and batman, batmans total IQ with task masters copy, ben himself learned how to fight by copying video games and gwen, even off of his own villains, ben has magic resistance with terraspin, energy absorption with feedback and chromastone, mental attacks with peskydust and ghostfreak, besides the top tiers ben can use any he likes, heck cell isnt even a threat to ben if ben uses clockwork or water hazard, and he can hot swap all these forms like hes playing dante must die DMC1-5.
Honestly surprised you didn't mention the DNA scanning the Omintrix can do. If Ben wanted to he can just scan Goku and beat his ass with a cracked-out Broly form.
I'm not entirely sure if Radiation even matters to DB characters, that's the only one of these i'm not sure about.
If i am NOT wrong, in future trunk's time line, in which goha trains him and lost an arm to the still evil androids, guko died duo a sickness, i Belive cancer, so i radiations May work if they are not in there any of there 1000912 god forms, or, you know, wishing anything from the dragons
He doesn't even bring up that Ben could literally scan aliens and become them. The best version of them. The omnitrix selects that species and makes him the perfect specimen of his age, they say this in the show. And he might not be able to do this with the earthlings cuz they got their strength from training, not genetics, and androids either, broly idk cuz he got it from a prophecy, and the whole thing in goku vs vegeta's fight was the hardworking low class warrior vs the elite. HOWEVER, he could just absorb frieza, or even beerus, or jiren or hit or anyone else, and maybe even the angels or zeno lol.
Im glad some people dont say "ben is weck goku is stronger " . Nice video btw
well nanomech wouldn't be able to be sent to because he is technically an Android
and also a same with atomix & clockwork and his other robotic aliens
also, pretty sure at some point, Ben was given full control over the alien x form because he convinced the other personalities to just go back in the recesses of the form's mind and Baker all they like
And then also a couple of bens speedster forms.would do a pretty good job, because one can literally create dimensional timeline, distortions and spay, sickly split into alternate versions of itself to hit from multiple angles whenever it feels like
and then there's another one, that's so fast to the point where to it, it is basically stopping time
I can imagine Omniverse fans screaming their heads off upon hearing you saying that the Ultimatrix is the complete Omnitrix.
Yeah I kinda remembered wrong haha, but I got roasted for it so it's all good 🫡😤
@@ijudgeanime
Honestly, I hate the Omniverse Omnitrix.
@@AmitCinematicUniverseMe too
But what makes it better than ultimatrix
@Rave165
There is no concrete justification for the Omniverse Omnitrix to be known as better.
Its user interface is unnecessarily more difficult than any previous version. It gives Ben the wrong alien far too often, and its time limit is highly dysfunctional.
@@AmitCinematicUniverseSame ultimatrix is the best evolution in the Future its gon be look like that are you waiting or what you are gon be dead then just use it earlier bro 💀 the owners never think
Alien X is not a true omnipotent and gets mogged by anyone stronger than Beerus, who scales above literal Japanese Bugs Bunny, Arale. Unless you don't accept the Arale meta.
I was kinda hoping this would be more like a what if series...
Who is albadoor???
Albedo. The scientist from Ben 10
Thinking Jetray can touch Vageta is crazy
Theoretically speaking, if Ben could repair genetic material with the recalibrated omnitrix and the completed variant..
He could probably fix frieza’s mutated biology, which is one of his family’s main reasons for their malevolence and frieza’s race aren’t the case of this..
The cold family was just an outlier from the rest of their race, so maybe if the watch repaired them, there’s bound to be some kind of changes in their ways.
Mutations aren't specifically malicious, unless the mutation is also super cancer or something I doubt it would change anything. Ironically the whole "peak of the species" thing just makes Ben's version of his aliens mutants
@@arkkon2740 Yeah but in this case, it’s why Frieza is kinda the way he is..
It’s pretty much in his nature, Frieza’s race just being evil was a misconception because of that very fact.
@@Hawk-yq4ln So when was it ever said that a single mutation causes both a natural increase in power along with a personality disorder?
Minus the fact that a physical mutation probably has no barings on a spiritual concept and its just for Toriyama's sci-fi kink at the time, where did this come from?
@@arkkon2740 I’m pretty sure you’ve told an example of that on the first one, I don’t think I gotta go through with that one..
And that’s certainly the case with Frieza since his mutation gave him a power boost, as for the personality disorder..
Toriyama pretty much confirms that the mutations contributed to the reason of Frieza’s cruelty.
@@Hawk-yq4ln we've just started talking idk where you remember me from 🧍♂️
And is this another of those "Toriyama yaps on an interview because he isn't feel like writing it" moments?
The omnitrix wasn't a prototype ultimatrix, the ultimatrix was a knockoff made by the omnitrix creator's assistant and it lacked a lot of the quality of life features that the original omnitrix had
How far would these three characters go in Dragon Ball video ideas:
Mordecai and Rigby from Regular Show
Lord Drakkon from Power Rangers
Pegasus Seiya from Saint Seiya
Mostly valid but micro mech couldn't kill via expansion if someone is stronger or more durable I could see it working early on but it would not work on anyone stronger then king piccolo
Goku would still have issues with Ben not training with the powers and earning it. He is all about training.
Don’t get him wrong, he does train in his off time, it’s not shown often but he does.
None of these aliens will be able to do ANYTHING to a Dragon Ball Character except Alien X but most likely would NOT be able to get past Zeno due to Zeno being stated to "Annihilate or anything regardless of complexity or scale". Also, nanomech simply wouldn't work, most likely would be crushed inside, just think about being teleported in a small space (smaller than your body size) inside something made out of the strongest material times 5, you would die. Jetray wouldn't work at all, some strong beings COULD handle it without being knocked, like Humungosaur for example. For the whole video, you kind of make it seem as the DB Characters would stand still, those characters are around a few DECILLION times faster than speed of light, scaled.
Not hating on the video, found it interesting and saw your arguments, it just wouldn't work lol
I would say this since ki is not natural to be but some how he can still use it but is more limited than Piccolo vegeta and goten hogan and goku
Also, Dragon Ball Characters have been shown to be vulnerable to chemical/poison attacks, see Gohan’s fight with that fox guy before the TOP. One of Ben’s transformations
named GutRot knows every chemical in existence and can create said chemicals out of nothing. Meaning, aside from Buu, Ben could just gas the Z fighters.
Also, his Upchuck transformation as well as his FeedBack transformation could basically do the Super 17 strategy of absorbing energy blasts and throwing them right back.
Yamcha would be enough to take out Ben 10 strongest form with wolf gang fist 😂
Base ben 10 untransformed for sure. hed eat dirt
Yeah no one of bens weakest alien's called the worst can easily take anything from Yamaha
Can we have Ultimate Life form Kars? I believe he'll fare much much better than dio even without a stand. Might as well bring up Novel Kars.
Yeah Ive wanted to do him too. He seems pretty fun to do
Neuro stun can affect cell and androids they are part biological
I’m honestly wondering if Ben could copy the Saiyans in the series and make his own more powerful copy of one like with Diamond Head 😂
Theoretically he could I guess. Saiyans are aliens so the omnitrix should be able to record em
The Omnitrix would copy the DNA and process it to its fittest form of the age of Ben and with the ultimatrix can use it to place that already prime DNA through 10 million years of war to evolve it
@@ijudgeanime they are alien and when Ben scan Saiyan DNA he probably won't be like Goku but probably more like broly a peak Saiyan who keeps getting Stronger
It depends on when Ben appears, if Young Ben appears in classic he absolotely would solo everything except maybe Goku or Piccolo, but he would easily adapt and sscale up in power from there. if he pops in Z he wouldnt have an easy time or many chances to grow up as a fighter
How far would Joe Pera get in Dragon Ball?
Those weaknesses for Alien X mentioned like magic and that certain planet he can’t survive is invalid. They were never shown in series. The guy who said those statements was Derrick J Wyatt. He’s was not even the writer nor creator of Ben 10 just the art director. Majority of statements are contradicted and proven wrong. He even admitted that his statements are just jokes and he was trolling.
Oh damn really? I never found stuff that said those statements were false. But that just means alien X is even stronger lol
@@ijudgeanime yeah one of the true writers Matt Wayne said that Alien X can use magic and Alien X should be above the Alpha Rune an item that controls all magic in the Ben 10 verse.
@@FireArtVids21 Damn they really broke his ass 🫡
Oh that planet you mentioned Alien X can’t survive is called Anur Vladias which is fan made. Not just the art director, the writers/creators were unaware that Anur Vladias was fan made. Also it wouldn’t make any sense for Alien X to die from it considering he tanked the device that destroyed everything within the verse which would include Anur Vladias.
@@FireArtVids21 Aaaah i see i see
I mean Ben is good in hand to hand without the Omnitrix he could get up in martial arts field and if he learn ki man he'd be strong
Franckly you slightly downplayed Ben in my opinion
First off the whole debate thing ? Yeah not an issue as Ben asked them to " give him the keys to alien X" in ov ( don't remember the exact episode)
And also he can scan aliens at a distance so he can scan saiyens ( not mutants so no freezer or cell) and he can go ultimate if you are going with that. The ultimate is basically placing the species in a war case scenario for over a million years and taking the new DNA... That would take advantage of the huge potential of a saiyen ( take the difference between kid Goku and Gohan at the same age and stretch that over generations and you would get a busted result)
Also if stuff like alien X has DNA beings like the Kai's beerus or whis and even grand priest and zenoh are not out of the question
Rias vs db?
Nb touch Goku but maybe Alien X
0:51 is that the music from Lady Sia?
I see we have an incredible gba game enjoyer here. It was!
@@ijudgeanime I discovered this game on my search on the retroactivements database and played it on my totally-not-emulator, haven't finished it yet but it was a fun experience
You rank Ben pretty fairly he has the chance to take out a lot of the verse or everyone. Or just screw it up
Yeah, Ben being in "???" tier list alongside my boy Sonic is pretty well deserved if I'm gonna be honest
Can you do Spawn, Shadow the Hedgehog, Rex Salazar from Generator Rex, Samus Aran from Metroid, or Dante, Vergil, or Nero from Devil May Cry?
Spawn sounds sick tbh
@@ijudgeanime Oh, he sure is. Spawn is a 90's hero/anti-hero from that era. He's pretty cool!
@@Spiral-Mark Yh i remember him being pretty damn tough
@@ijudgeanime I've heard the fact that he beaten and overthrown both Satan and God is absolutely insane to me
@@crimsonhunter7598 What do those powers do exactly?
ok this is where i have to draw some lines. because ben 10 is not some omnipotent godlike being and even ailen x is limited by not only ben being human aka not having omniscience but also limited by the fact that his species can lose seen in the gladator fight another one was the big bang feat by feedback if ailen x is all powerful why didnt that work but feedback did and whatever reason u give is just showing a flaw in ailen x because OMNIPOTENT MEANS OMNIPOTENT THERE SHOULDNT BE A FLAW HERE. as for ben's scanning u can make that case of scanning a sayian or frieza clan etc but that isn't going to help because ben still wouldnt have god ki so forms like ui and ue wouldnt help at best he would be like a super sayian 3 or 4 (and im being generous since similar to the ultimate ailens there is no confirming that ben would just auto get ssj). Another thing ben has muiltple different forms and scalings for them and i feel it would be more interesting in this case.
In short i dont stand with the ben omnipotent stuff and i don't stand with the ben easily winning this hell i argue ben is at max mutilversal and the big defining factor is hax so i could see him stopping at zeno/ super shenron at high end or moro at low end this is due to magic doing very well against him like when he challenges gwen..
Finally 🔥
It started whit alien device
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I see it this way...
Buhan would destroy Universe 7 just with the pressure of his absurd Ki... and even then Vegetto SS1 beat him up
Buhan used magic to transform Vegetto into a chocolate candy and Vegetto SS1 beat him up anyway.
My point is, the current characters in DB far surpass anything Vegito could do in Z, so I don't think Alien X is capable of surpassing Resurrection F at most.
thats a fair take
Yeah no alien x given all of the statements is literally zeno but beyond zeno
@@RyanGP1203_MemeLord nah
Do yogiri takato from instant death vs dragon ball
oh god.. that instant death cheat skill edgelord 😭
Yogiri alone would easily beat DB no joke
3:42 You got the lore wrong, the omnitrix isn't the prototype of the ultimatrix.
In classic ben got the prototype omnitrix, in alien force ben puts back the device who in consequence of being inactive for a long time, recalibrate. Later ben destroy the watch by using it's self destruct function and takes Albedo's ultimatrix (the ultimatrix is a device made by combining Azmuth's unfinished ultimatrix and Albedo's omnitrix replica) wich can evolve the alien into a more "prepared for war" form.
Then after THIS device gets destroyed Azmuth give ben the official omnitrix from wich the first one was the prototype
Oh damn I totally remembered that wrong then
Technically the ultimatrix didn't get destroyed but was given to azimuth who might have disassembled it but we don't know
@@Nelsito99 uh no it blew up on screen
@@lehashura490only the recalibrate onmitrix blew up
@@Nelsito99 th-cam.com/video/jTFoXOtez6k/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
1:44
If it's not blown up it's at least destroyed
Or AFUO
I don't know anything about ben 10 but great video
thanks fam 🫡
@@ijudgeanime your welcome
Khalil get in dragon ball (khalil)
You know that he can just scan zeno and angels or god of Destruction but i don't think zeno is gon allow him to scan him or his Fried i forget his name the father of all Angels the strongest angel maybe he could but if he he is gon do something bad then he is gon try to kill him or something like that i think he can just use hakai and delete him in his human form and omnitrix too but that clockwork can do that too i don't know if omnitrix can survive really anithing i think omnitrix need better upgrade from anithing bad
nooooo why no alien force or omniverse ben their his most powerful versions of him
It’s actually arguable if any time related abilities would work on ToP characters since Goku during that arc was stated to Transcend the Concept of Time…
There Is so many ben 10 vs DB videos
yeah pretty popular topic
No way dude think lolicon us bad
I mean lolicon isnt bad by definition i suppose. But when the chara is litterally underage its pretty sussy bro 💀
JENNY WAKMAN / XJ9
oooh my life as a teenage robot sure brings back memories