You're absolutely right. That's really a cornerstone of the Marxist playbook: redefinition. If they can't control or censor the flow of information effectively, they obfuscate it by using semantics and mental gymnastics to make it impossible to have objective discussion without misunderstanding and emotional reactions.
Yeah right off the bat they conflated the definition for systemic racism with racism, i don't know if it's a weird debate tactic to conflate the two or if people just genuinely don't understand that there's a difference
Certain people will never give up the perpetual cudgel of "inheret racism" because it is the only thing they can use to cover for their lazyness and bad habits.
@@colinchampollion4420 I'm white. I have no generational wealth, but you can bet it'll come out of my paychecks. My grandparents first raised their family in a literal shack. Then they moved on up to a 3 bedroom, I bath, very small house that all 9 of them lived in. My mother shared a double bed with one of her sisters. My other grandparents lived in a converted barn that had no insulation or heat on the second floor where my dad grew up. My grandparents and parents worked hard.
@krisnaylor9488 sooo did my parents & grandparents worked sooo hard and never borrowed money and we ended-up with a mansion on 16arces on the shore line of Pacific Palisades & a RR Corniche & a MERZ sedan all bought cash!
@@colinchampollion4420 the keyword there is descendants. They might have benefited off something,I certainly didn’t. Have you heard of the depression in the 30s? Everybody lost money then. So what do you think people had to do? They had to work and saved their money and maybe buying another house because they probably lost it. That’s the way life works. Anybody who lives in the United States can do anything they want if they put their mind to it and if they choose not to then that’s on them and not on me. I will help anybody I can if they’re willing to help themselves. Your call has been forwarded to voicemail And I also think that people shouldn’t get reparations if there’s gonna be any money they had it should not go to individuals. It should go to communities. You give that money to an individual. It’s gonna be gone. They’re gonna spend it on garbage. Put it into the schools into the community where the kids are gonna learn and get an education so that they can have opportunities that ones in the past didn’t have. They can have supplies that they need they can get laptops. Whatever it is with the money they could get from the government they could even build new schools or upgrade the schools. Money going to individuals is not the answer . I know that kind of sounds logical, but hey, that’s the way I think.
As a Latino 57 years old I can honestly say I have never been racially discriminated on, my path may have had more challenges then some but I persevered and became stronger for it no victimhood here.
Exactly. You hinted at the real issue- a type of perception bias. Each person, is fully aware of the challenges they themselves have to overcome in life. But are not fully aware of the challenges others have to overcome. This makes everyone think that they had to overcome more than others. i.e. I know what challenges I've faced. You know what challenges you faced. I do not know every challenge you faced, and you do not know every challenge I've faced.
@@bobprivate8575 - And that can come in the form of reverse racism masking envy and pride. We humans are guilty of pre-judging, it's not necessarily by default bad, wrong, or racist. But, for example, some black individuals insisted on and concluded things about me that they had no clue about. Yet, they embraced an entitlement of "knowing" me better than I do myself! LoL. It's patently offensive and wrong, and stupid, I used to get mad about it, but now am at a point where I laugh out loud about it. And it's not a black-white thing, which gets back to our shared humanity. Anyone, of any language, ethnicity, skin tone, that pulls that kind of manipulative bull on me, including being an insulting bigot, they can call me a name, they don't have the power over me I used to allow and give them. Gotta sift through the disingenuous actors to the fairer, open people of the world.
Because if they taught these people that their ancestors were paid their reparations and nothing is owed to them because their ancestors were paid directly then this entire discussion would end.
Harvard Black enrollment went down because EVERYONE had to get the SAME score to get in. White students had to get 300-400 points HIGHER than Black students & Asians had to get 120 points HIGHER than that. That's why Asian students sued Harvard. Instead of fighting for lowering standards for Black students, why aren't they fighting for higher teaching standards in predominately Black schools beginning in Elementary Schools. Why are Teachers allowed to provide substandard education in those schools? In my friends kids school, they had 2 different grades (ie: 1&2 - 3&4) in the SAME classroom. How tf is that not providing 1/2 an education??
amen that school should have 4 different grades to give a full education to each grade level otherwise they are holding half the students back from their full potential because both grade even if only 1 year apart are at different levels of knowledge and needs to be taught differently from the other
@@saygerow EXACTLY! That's one of the major reasons my daughter went to Catholic School & NOT a Detroit public School with her friends. I'll never understand why parents weren't up in arms & suing the School Districts for failing to fulfill their obligation to provide a FULL & PROPER education to those kids.
Do some digging and you’ll find that the score at which people were consider retarded was lowered because most of the students in special Ed were black. Because it looked back they lowered the standard by around 10 points. In America they have lowered educational standards due to ‘no child left behind’. America is very behind on education for all groups but black specifically have a much higher low iq group than the others. That’s why black countries don’t innovate and black communities don’t do well. If the health of mothers and fathers was focused on we could maybe increase that though. Iodine levels has a direct correlation with the iq of babies, we need to set high standards and then strive to meet them, not give things to people who don’t deserve them.
@@NotSure-s8m true, race and gender should be the absolute last thing anyone looks at when hiring someone or admitting them into college everyone needs to be held to the exact same standards and are required to get the same scores
Everything I hear a black person say they "have to do" when they are pulled over is everything my mom taught me to do from a young age, and my mom was hardly ever pulled over. I was still taught, park/off, window down; information out where it can be seen, hands where they can be seen. No sudden movements. Be respectful, even if they are in the wrong. You do NOT fight the cop. You go to the court and plead your case. A cop has no idea who you are or what he is walking up to. The responsibility is on you to act respectfully and polite because he is the one in a position of authority. Right or wrong." As far back as I can remember that was my lesson in cops and you bet your rear. My vampire status behind follows that to the letter when I am pulled over.
yea, but your mom wasnt twerking on ambulances every chance she got.........lol. Just kidding, I was taught the same thing, but thats personal responsibility...its a rare black child that learns that. Jojo obviously did, learn that as well.
true and every day cops are risking their lives to do their job because as u said they dont know u and dont know what u could do so even just walking up to a car until they get there they dont know if ur armed or what so any sudden movements could set off alerts for the cops to be ready for anything and they certainly dont know ur race until after they already stopped u and came up to ur door
I love that you listen to these long form discussions with multiple perspectives. We need more of this, combined with some common sense, irrefutable reality.
I wish just one person would ask her what laws in our country are racist against any particular race? Because that’s what “systemic boils down to. The system is our government which is ran by the laws that are set forth. I would ask her to name one law in our country that is inherently racist toward any one of any shade of tan. I’m sure anger would follow bc she wouldn’t be able to name a single law. People only want to acknowledge one type of racism. I left the Marine Corp in the late 2000’s. I applied for a security management position at one of the local Nuclear facilities. Being that I was a Marine for 8 years with an infantry mos, I thought my experience would make me a shoe in for that job. Instead a woman who happened to be black with no experience what so ever got the job over me. She was hired over me because they had a certain quota to fill for non-white and male employees. After serving my country for almost a decade, it infuriated that was what I had come home to. Like it really really pissed me off since I had two newborns and a wife to care for. Thankfully that’s only happened twice to me in my 42 years. Also my oldest daughter enrolled at the University of Alabama a few months back. She graduated highschool with a cumulative GPA of 4.75 “she took all honors” she scored a 26 on her ACT and graduated in the top 5 of all the kids in her high school. When she went to apply for scholarships, I remembered what happened to me at a potential job years back. I told her to list her ethnicity as American Indian “her great great grand mother was Cherokee” but she didn’t. Like I figured, it played out that she wasn’t considered for the scholarship. So when I hear people talked about white privilege, it makes my blood boil. Who knows, who ever came up with that label, that could be why the did it.
i can actually name 1 law that is racist against any particular race, and heads up its not racist against blacks by any means because its a law that is in place to help blacks, its called affirmative action, it lowers standards for blacks and other minority groups and forces employers to hire minorities who may or may not be qualified for the position they are applying for even if theres a qualified or even overly qualified white applicant the job would hire people of color under affirmative action laws
The woman who is arguing that it's difficult to get hired despite qualifications is not taking into consideration that there may be other factors. For instance, the person doing the hiring might notice her attitude of victimhood and decide to hire someone less likely to cause problems by expecting special or preferential treatment. The employer might feel that any criticism of performance would be met with accusations of racism rather than reflection and improvement. Simply put, the employer might feel that it's not worth the hassle.
if someone shows signs of this victumhood mentality i sure as heck wouldnt hire them and id tell them to their face that im looking for people that can do the job and do it well but also people that will not try to sue me if i for any reason have to fire them for failure to do their job because i give equal opportunity but also take equal caution with all my workers and if thats unacceptable to them to be recorded while on the job then sorry but i cant hire them and they would know ahead of time their station will be monitored for quality assurance and to protect mine and my companies interests in who we hire and if they are doing their job or not
It really bothered me that nobody corrected those last two ladies. Nobody was saying that just because a black person holds a certain position means that they were a DEI hire. They just must have misunderstood the situation that the lawyer guy laid out. He was proposing that if you tell companies that they need to hire based on race in order to fill quotas in order to be representative of the population, that at a certain point, you will have to throw out meritocracy in order to remain representative.
@@jags333 it’s the same situation everywhere. The black ladies talk louder and interrupt everytime anyone says something different or against them. It’s an intimidation tactic. The media has made whites afraid to be called racist. It bothers me that so many white people pander to blacks. We are all the same in Gods eyes. God sees the heart not the skin color.
which pretty much means there are going be DEI hires if they throw out the need of merits to represent a group based on race then by that very definition alot of them could be DEI hires as they didnt earn their positions and wasnt qualified for their positions
30:00 “Yea because your race was inherently racist.” “Do you mean to say that white people are inherently racist?” “I didn’t say that. That’s what you said.” Just 🤦♂️
welcome to the clown world where accountability means nothing and people want to throw the race card every time they get proven wrong or meets the consequences of their own actions
We need more creators like you man. Thanks for providing needed common sense...my grandmother sid it best (everybody is the same..we all got a round butthole)
Same reason she thinks people are as racist as she thinks. They think people secretly think the same way they do. Other people just don't say it out loud like they do.
@@GAMMAGOMAthat might be her experience but that would be considered anecdotal. Personal experience is one thing but a study conducted with many many people by trained experts is another. 🤔
There is way more classism than racism in the U.S. 😅 I don't look anywhere near the money i make. Every time i walk into "upscale " places ( auto dealerships, eateries, jewelry sellers, etc.), Sales people WILL NOT approach me.
She has got to be sure that everyone sees blacks as “victims”. It doesnt matter where the facts come from, who presents them, or the actual facts that are being presented. They have to present themselves as the victim so that they can still try collect some kind of preferential treatment. She shows the victim mentality that begs for something, instead of facing the adversity and working through it. And as far as teaching kids how to act when they get pulled over by the cops, sorry folks, but it no longer matters what race you are. The police are out of control everywhere. All income levels, all neighborhoods, and all walks of life are all suffering from the militarization of our police forces. Quit targeting this bs racism and move on. Everyone needs to focus on whats going on in america RIGHT NOW or we wont have a country to call “home”.
Without racism the Democratic Party dies… which is why they focus on it so much! On a day to day how many of you actually experience racism. Not my friend said this or that but you personally! There is racist people but at the end of the day most people just want to go about their day unbothered and go home to their family!
Bro your point about most people are not critical thinkers is so fucking accurate. The more I think about it, the more I see that as a common link between a lot of issues that are talked about today. Also, me and my gf love your videos; keep making the great content!
The second woman on the right doesn't want to fair discussion, she just wants her way or the highway. This is the problem with today, people only want the way they see things to be the way everyone sees things, and anyone who doesn't agree should be mocked with laughter or painted as racist for trying to fix the core of an issue rather than just slap "racism" as the explanation for every problem.
Ummmmm it's required by law to complete the census. If the person doesn't fill it out, then a census agent fills it out on their behalf based on the neighborhood info, so they are pretty close to accurate. And that is how states and communities get funding and other government benefits, so you may want to start campaigning for people to fill out the census....
I part Cherokee and Slav where the word slave originated from. I basically have the World Woke Poker Tournaments Full House hand. Where is my casino money and repetitions?! 😂
@@kharig8268 as to you. Small 14k Midwest city I grew up in was predominantly Slavish and Polish. Pretty much a bar every other block it seemed like. Drugs started moving in during the 90s and why I jumped ship and joined the military not long after high school.
Does that lady know all black people to know they dont fill out census Edit to add. When taxes arent put back towards your community, why keep voting for the people who spend your tax money elsewhere?
After slavery was abolished in the United States, Chinese laborers were imported to the South as cheap labor to replace freed Blacks on the plantations. Many of the early Chinese laborers came from sugar plantations in Cuba and after the transcontinental railroad was completed, California also contributed to the labor supply. These laborers formed communities in the pockets of the Southeastern part of the United States, encountering racist policies and crossing paths with the African American community.
As a white woman, i myself would stay out of a sundown town because people who would hassle blacks would not be ok with some white stranger walking their ass around either!
Maybe there should be some oversight in the places that are in such a sad state. How is the money being spent in these places? Are their Representatives making good decisions? Is the money going for what it was meant for? Follow the money!
I always vote in person because once someone turned in a mail in ballot in my name! If I hadn’t voted in person I wouldn’t have known. The polling place made me swear out a statement and jump through hoops to cast my own vote and they wouldn’t tell me who the ballot stealer voted for.
To be fair, the lady in the white top didn’t say “are inherently racist.” She said “were inherently racist.” She then referenced ancestors doing bad things.
When I was young and absolutely nuts, I purposely went to those alleged sundown areas in Indiana and I obviously never found any trouble. Stopped at a Hardee’s in one, good food, nice people! 😅
I would love for someone to give me the name of a single sundown town that exists today. The last time I saw one was when I was a child, 40 years ago, in rural Alabama (as a southerner, I just have to say this-I’ve seen more racism in the northeast, mostly between Latinos, blacks, and Asians, who openly hurled racial slurs at one another. I’ve never seen that in the south, probably bc racism was ONLY attributed to southerners, therefore never addressed anywhere else.)
0:25 Defining the word “racism” without grounding the definition in skin color. You can’t define a word by using it, but to completely ignore race as the foundation of what racism is…..we’re screwed.
Will people stop saying about white privilege? I am 43 years of age, and I am still looking for this white privilege you say I have. Where is it?Where can I get it? I have looked everywhere, even in the mirror. You know why I can't find it? It's because it does not exist. Facts!
I swear I am so sick of the victim mentality. Lord, everyone has problems. You have to groom your kids. Why don't you just teach your kids to respect cops or others. If you do that there will never be any problems.
15:10 This woman!? Asian people were ABSOLUTELY used as slaves. Not only in this country, but across the world. Every single race has enslaved another at one point in history. She’s off her rocker!
I am continuously amazed with the amount of wisdom in this young man. He is definitely correct that critical thinking has become a lost characteristic.
Also, I wonder if we can assign points to other forms of privilege, such as "Mother privilege?" I am White, but my Mother died when I was 10. My Father died when I was 36, just a month before my son was born. Now, my [ex] Black GF (we met when our kids went to school together) had her parents well into their 90s- both of them and they were married. I had no parents and zero family, so when I divorced my husband- I had no one and nothing. She was still married and had her master's degree and both she and her husband worked and had lived in the same home for 20 years which they bought...I, however, had moved all over the world with my ex's job- and at the end, had registered my son for 15 SCHOOLS! Imagine moving 15 times WITH A CHILD! All the adjusting and well, that's another topic...We were with the foreign service/US embassies/US diplomats. So I was unable to work for most of our 20 year marriage bc of language barriers, no work in host country and frequent moves. I had no family. My ex was always gone- I had no Mother mentoring bc I had no Mother (since age 10) and no women family to help...I had no idea what I was doing as far as parenting but did my best (and I would say 98% alone- that's how dad was either on trips or just checked out and not helpful)... So, at the end of the day, when I had to leave- it was killing me to stay- massive gap in my resume, no support, no attorney for court- so I got no money- he closed all the accounts and basically took it all- got away with hardly any child support payments bc he was tricky and hid the money- but my point is- I live in a homeless shelter right now (I got my son off to college! Thank goodness! I paid my last dollar to get him there and then *collapsed*!)... But we are both Gen X and I have two Bachelors and she has a Masters...She had/has (one parent is still alive) very good parents and had a good upbringing, as did I. I had a wonderful family- but losing a Mother at 10 is HARD. You're on a different track for life. It changes you... But I had aunts and my Grandmother lived with us and so we both had good upbringings with similar values- but am I supposed to believe that I have White privilege over her? If so, how the hell did I get into this homeless shelter? Getting back up after that fall and attack in a divorce is like being a crab trying to crawl out of a bucket. Sadly, our friendship ended BC of all this identity politics- so I am VERY sensitive about this stuff and honestly? I am ANGRY! I am ANGRY at Joy Reid and Sunny Hostin. They made me lose my friend. Bc they're race-baiters. Interestingly, my Kenyan-American friend who is a PhD and a university professor...She and I have *never* discussed race (with once exception based on a reaction when we went out to eat by how some Black Americans were treating her). She naturalized about 5 years back and we have been friends for about 10 years (so about 2-years less than my other friend)... She doesn't find it empowering to talk about victimization. She explained that Kenyans are quite grateful for post-war colonialism and cannot understand why Black Americans are so upset and carry a "chip." She knows the opportunity is there for them- but can't relate to not taking it and instead wanting reparations or blaming other people... IDK, I didn't mean for this to be so long, but this is a very big deal to me, not to mention I fear we are further dividing and am concerned about racism for BOTH sides. I have experienced SO, SO much racism as a White woman in a NYC homeless shelter but even prior to entering- something fliipped and suddenly, I was being treated badly and all I had ever done was help everyone. It was weird. And one last thing- it's quite a misnomer- this "generational wealth." I come from a very blue-blooded family- Mayflower descendant, DAR, Union Civil War soldier- died on Battle of Fredericksburg, direct descendant of US POTUS (Garfield) and signer of DoI (Rutledge) and prior to America- all of my great Grandparents were kings, queens, lords, ladies, counts, countesses, even saints! 😆 But no slave-owners, etc. And my Father's side naturalized to USA from Belgium/France and his Father was a champion Olympic ice skater and built skating schools all over USA... Quite rich families and very good families- but I do not know any Gen X-er who has ever sat down for a probate proceeding... Aside from the real elites- like Trump & the Johnson family, the Koch Brothers, Gates', etc., there's not SO much "generational wealth." I have not known regular middle class or even upper middle class - upper class- have much given to them. Our economy sucks and sometimes parents want to spend their $ before they die. IDK, but there is just not much of that kind of wealth that people talk about. Most folks, unless mutli millionaires or even trillionaires nowadays, are just winging it like everyone else. Obvioiusly- a good famiy- a nice lifestyle w/my ex and here I am in a shelter. 😂 It's okay and I will make it out- but it happens to everyone. It's been very humbling. There are just SO, SO many misunderstandings about White people and privilege and we're learning more and more about whose boats these were and who sold who to whom and things like free mason things and looking at other alternative narratives to Russia, Germany and the WW's- like maybe it is not as we think or have been told. And lastly- the police?.. Let me tell you- we are learning that this is definitely not unique to Black people. This is a whole other topic- but they operate as a gang- almost as a cult or their own race...They do bad things to Whites, too. IDK, this is all nuanced. I would love to post more about my experiences on welfare and how it's sort of damaged my psyche and sort of made me feel like a victim- which I have never felt before...Learning a lot. But it's best to not coddle people in my spot. We must pull ourselves up and out bc getting money you didn't earn (for a long period of time- crisis stuff is warranted)- it changes your mind. I cannot explain it but when you get something for nothing- it doesn't feel earned and you don't feel as grateful or energetic. It's scrambled by brains... I hope I can contribute to this convo once I get out of here [god-willing]. This silly post is way too long and exposes too much of me so I probably will delete after a day or two! 😆 But GOOD LUCK to you! You're SO, SO bright and willing to look at everything through a more nuanced scope and this is very astute and healthy! You're helping so much with relations! Keep it up. I am 💔 about my friend. But my son was starting to be unfairly targeted in NYC w/race and it all really hurt bc we're both really sweet people- but this new almost-cult with race has ruined so much, IMO! I went to an all-Black middle-class middle school in Stone Mtn, GA. We had ZERO problems. I never experienced any racism in reverse until my 50th year. A lifetime I devoted to help and the tables were turned. Very hurtful. Sorry! I'll be quiet! Good job! Will be 👀 for you in the future! You might have a political one, eh? The world is your OYSTER! 👍😍 Take care! 💜
The first woman, what I heard was "I learned it in college and then it was further taught to me by this professor after college where she was spreading it to those who couldn't afford college". The same woman defined "equity" with the definition of "equality" so she doesn't even understand the difference in the two words. And that is a huge problem for most people, they don't understand the difference between the two, they think 'equity' is another word for 'equality'. Her example however leaves out the equality in that two people BOTH with masters degrees may apply but one actually has more real world experience in the field to make them better qualified, however that person doesn't get hired because they are white and the company is running a DEI program so is not hiring any white people. In my position they tried this, we have certain minimum requirements, no problem. When I was hired, they didn't look at race just those requirements and if you passed the tests for those requirements, you got into the new hire class, period end of story. They got a new person in the hiring position who decided there were not enough black people, we started seeing new hire classes that were entirely black. On the surface that doesn't sound like a problem, yay more black people. The problem came in that they started ACCOMMODATING those black people because that was the only way they could take the job, which was why they weren't taking the job previously. So someone who had been working there for ten years and had earned seniority to have the schedule they wanted suddenly was working a schedule that didn't work for them, this wasn't just white people it was just non-black. Personally, I for example prefer evenings, was coming in at 4 to 5 pm and suddenly found myself scheduled for 7 am. Big difference. I could do it, I was just working my preference, but others who had that happen to them could not and ended up either being fired for absenteeism or quitting for a job that gave them the schedule they needed for their families. So they lost a lot of their senior experienced workers and the location's overall company stats went waaaaaay down. It wasn't that they were hiring black people, it was that they force hired people that didn't originally want the job due to their schedules and then accommodated them over their current work force. That was the DEI portion that just doesn't work for jobs like this one. They stopped after about five months but the damage was done.
Feels like these people all went to some d EI seminar and drank the Kool aid. . And every parent with any sense. Every parent hasa talk with their kids about how to act when they get pulled over by the police.
The fact that the first question was, what is your definition of racism? Really explains why we are at where we are at in society here in America today.
3:00 This woman is so backwards it’s bizarre. We judge loan worthiness based on your credit score, your credit score is based on the financial decisions you’ve made across your life. Just asinine to think any of that applies to 2024.
Because if they taught these people that their ancestors were paid their reparations and nothing is owed to them because their ancestors were paid directly then this entire discussion would end.
@7:10…as a brown skin male…I literally worked the census myself in my own non white majority brown skinned neighborhood and we had people participate and got info from the majority of our addresses
When discussing equal opportunity vs equal outcomes use education at kindergarten level as an example. I went to school with the just black children. We started at the same level, but at the end of the school year the outcomes between the students were different. Many were able to put in the work that I didn’t do so I got the grade I deserved. I can’t look to blame the school. I have to start with me.
Not only that, university and the whole education system in it's current form for the past 150 years never taught you any real world skills and knowledge outside of writing, reading and arithmetic assuming you couldn't do them before going to elementary school... I know because I graduated a top university with STEM and they taught me about 3-5% of what I need for the bottom of the barrel non-internship position. While people I know, friends and acquaintances who are working 9-5 and making 3-6x the average salary at 23-25 years old never went to university. They went to private courses and self-educated.
@3:02… It blows me away that with as many Brown skinned folks that own million dollar houses in major cities all over this country that I’m still hearing about red lining from before my parents were born
They're also wrong about racism being learned. It's part of almost every creature. Otherwise baby deers would walk right up to a lion. It's an innate part of our biology. But how it's interpreted is learned.
I would have loved to bring up Anthony Johnson(black man and former indentured servants), the first slave owner in the colonies, fought to make black indentured servants into chattel slaves. He lost his first try against the crown. But later he tried again on appeal and won his case, making him the creator of black chattel life long slavery in the colonies. I feel like she doesn’t have a good foundation in order to make an informed argument.
As someone who lived through the redlining cases of the 70s and 80s it was clear then that most of the allegations were nonsense. Denying loans based on a persons inability to pay the loan back was called redlining. Realtors bringing people into the neighborhood that has houses they say they can afford was included as redlining. Some allegations were absolutely true, but much of it was false allegations.
First girls answer is absolutely NOT the traditional definition of racism. It’s the woke definition
exactly
Yea definitely a woke answer when did power have anything to do with power
@@dspokemoncards6184 racism has nothing to do with power
You're absolutely right. That's really a cornerstone of the Marxist playbook: redefinition. If they can't control or censor the flow of information effectively, they obfuscate it by using semantics and mental gymnastics to make it impossible to have objective discussion without misunderstanding and emotional reactions.
Yeah right off the bat they conflated the definition for systemic racism with racism, i don't know if it's a weird debate tactic to conflate the two or if people just genuinely don't understand that there's a difference
“Data is misconstrued when it doesn’t support our ideology” -that lady
😂💯
Certain people will never give up the perpetual cudgel of "inheret racism" because it is the only thing they can use to cover for their lazyness and bad habits.
Why should people who have NEVER been slave owners have to pay people who have NEVER been slaves? Makes no since!
The first owner of black slaves in the USA was a black man
Because their descendants have benefited from slavery & had a huge head start through generational wealth and higher education plus housing😮🎉! , ,
@@colinchampollion4420
I'm white. I have no generational wealth, but you can bet it'll come out of my paychecks.
My grandparents first raised their family in a literal shack. Then they moved on up to a 3 bedroom, I bath, very small house that all 9 of them lived in. My mother shared a double bed with one of her sisters.
My other grandparents lived in a converted barn that had no insulation or heat on the second floor where my dad grew up.
My grandparents and parents worked hard.
@krisnaylor9488 sooo did my parents & grandparents worked sooo hard and never borrowed money and we ended-up with a mansion on 16arces on the shore line of Pacific Palisades & a RR Corniche & a MERZ sedan all bought cash!
@@colinchampollion4420 the keyword there is descendants. They might have benefited off something,I certainly didn’t. Have you heard of the depression in the 30s? Everybody lost money then. So what do you think people had to do? They had to work and saved their money and maybe buying another house because they probably lost it. That’s the way life works. Anybody who lives in the United States can do anything they want if they put their mind to it and if they choose not to then that’s on them and not on me. I will help anybody I can if they’re willing to help themselves. Your call has been forwarded to voicemail And I also think that people shouldn’t get reparations if there’s gonna be any money they had it should not go to individuals. It should go to communities. You give that money to an individual. It’s gonna be gone. They’re gonna spend it on garbage. Put it into the schools into the community where the kids are gonna learn and get an education so that they can have opportunities that ones in the past didn’t have. They can have supplies that they need they can get laptops. Whatever it is with the money they could get from the government they could even build new schools or upgrade the schools. Money going to individuals is not the answer . I know that kind of sounds logical, but hey, that’s the way I think.
As a Latino 57 years old I can honestly say I have never been racially discriminated on, my path may have had more challenges then some but I persevered and became stronger for it no victimhood here.
Exactly. You hinted at the real issue- a type of perception bias.
Each person, is fully aware of the challenges they themselves have to overcome in life. But are not fully aware of the challenges others have to overcome. This makes everyone think that they had to overcome more than others.
i.e. I know what challenges I've faced. You know what challenges you faced. I do not know every challenge you faced, and you do not know every challenge I've faced.
@@bobprivate8575 - And that can come in the form of reverse racism masking envy and pride. We humans are guilty of pre-judging, it's not necessarily by default bad, wrong, or racist. But, for example, some black individuals insisted on and concluded things about me that they had no clue about. Yet, they embraced an entitlement of "knowing" me better than I do myself! LoL. It's patently offensive and wrong, and stupid, I used to get mad about it, but now am at a point where I laugh out loud about it. And it's not a black-white thing, which gets back to our shared humanity. Anyone, of any language, ethnicity, skin tone, that pulls that kind of manipulative bull on me, including being an insulting bigot, they can call me a name, they don't have the power over me I used to allow and give them. Gotta sift through the disingenuous actors to the fairer, open people of the world.
How in the hell did these people become professors?
Because they Definitely Earned It.
DEI?
quotas
They're paid to keep Fanning that mythical flame of racism for the Democrats.
Because if they taught these people that their ancestors were paid their reparations and nothing is owed to them because their ancestors were paid directly then this entire discussion would end.
“You can’t trust those statistics!”
So we should make policy decisions based on “trust me bro”?
Harvard Black enrollment went down because EVERYONE had to get the SAME score to get in.
White students had to get 300-400 points HIGHER than Black students & Asians had to get 120 points HIGHER than that. That's why Asian students sued Harvard.
Instead of fighting for lowering standards for Black students, why aren't they fighting for higher teaching standards in predominately Black schools beginning in Elementary Schools. Why are Teachers allowed to provide substandard education in those schools? In my friends kids school, they had 2 different grades (ie: 1&2 - 3&4) in the SAME classroom. How tf is that not providing 1/2 an education??
amen that school should have 4 different grades to give a full education to each grade level otherwise they are holding half the students back from their full potential because both grade even if only 1 year apart are at different levels of knowledge and needs to be taught differently from the other
@@saygerow EXACTLY! That's one of the major reasons my daughter went to Catholic School & NOT a Detroit public School with her friends. I'll never understand why parents weren't up in arms & suing the School Districts for failing to fulfill their obligation to provide a FULL & PROPER education to those kids.
Do some digging and you’ll find that the score at which people were consider retarded was lowered because most of the students in special Ed were black. Because it looked back they lowered the standard by around 10 points. In America they have lowered educational standards due to ‘no child left behind’. America is very behind on education for all groups but black specifically have a much higher low iq group than the others. That’s why black countries don’t innovate and black communities don’t do well. If the health of mothers and fathers was focused on we could maybe increase that though. Iodine levels has a direct correlation with the iq of babies, we need to set high standards and then strive to meet them, not give things to people who don’t deserve them.
And they NEED to be sued every time someone gets in on anything other than merit.
@@NotSure-s8m true, race and gender should be the absolute last thing anyone looks at when hiring someone or admitting them into college everyone needs to be held to the exact same standards and are required to get the same scores
Everything I hear a black person say they "have to do" when they are pulled over is everything my mom taught me to do from a young age, and my mom was hardly ever pulled over. I was still taught, park/off, window down; information out where it can be seen, hands where they can be seen. No sudden movements. Be respectful, even if they are in the wrong. You do NOT fight the cop. You go to the court and plead your case. A cop has no idea who you are or what he is walking up to. The responsibility is on you to act respectfully and polite because he is the one in a position of authority. Right or wrong."
As far back as I can remember that was my lesson in cops and you bet your rear. My vampire status behind follows that to the letter when I am pulled over.
Right, same here
yea, but your mom wasnt twerking on ambulances every chance she got.........lol. Just kidding, I was taught the same thing, but thats personal responsibility...its a rare black child that learns that. Jojo obviously did, learn that as well.
Same here and it's what I taught my sons.
Ditto...put their shoes on and act accordingly.
true and every day cops are risking their lives to do their job because as u said they dont know u and dont know what u could do so even just walking up to a car until they get there they dont know if ur armed or what so any sudden movements could set off alerts for the cops to be ready for anything and they certainly dont know ur race until after they already stopped u and came up to ur door
Those figures don't support my argument, so they can't be valid.
I love that you listen to these long form discussions with multiple perspectives. We need more of this, combined with some common sense, irrefutable reality.
Those "educators" are buffoons.
I wish just one person would ask her what laws in our country are racist against any particular race? Because that’s what “systemic boils down to. The system is our government which is ran by the laws that are set forth. I would ask her to name one law in our country that is inherently racist toward any one of any shade of tan. I’m sure anger would follow bc she wouldn’t be able to name a single law. People only want to acknowledge one type of racism. I left the Marine Corp in the late 2000’s. I applied for a security management position at one of the local Nuclear facilities. Being that I was a Marine for 8 years with an infantry mos, I thought my experience would make me a shoe in for that job. Instead a woman who happened to be black with no experience what so ever got the job over me. She was hired over me because they had a certain quota to fill for non-white and male employees. After serving my country for almost a decade, it infuriated that was what I had come home to. Like it really really pissed me off since I had two newborns and a wife to care for. Thankfully that’s only happened twice to me in my 42 years. Also my oldest daughter enrolled at the University of Alabama a few months back. She graduated highschool with a cumulative GPA of 4.75 “she took all honors” she scored a 26 on her ACT and graduated in the top 5 of all the kids in her high school. When she went to apply for scholarships, I remembered what happened to me at a potential job years back. I told her to list her ethnicity as American Indian “her great great grand mother was Cherokee” but she didn’t. Like I figured, it played out that she wasn’t considered for the scholarship. So when I hear people talked about white privilege, it makes my blood boil. Who knows, who ever came up with that label, that could be why the did it.
i can actually name 1 law that is racist against any particular race, and heads up its not racist against blacks by any means because its a law that is in place to help blacks, its called affirmative action, it lowers standards for blacks and other minority groups and forces employers to hire minorities who may or may not be qualified for the position they are applying for even if theres a qualified or even overly qualified white applicant the job would hire people of color under affirmative action laws
It's called gaslighting. Theyre Doing to you what they say you're doing to them..
The woman who is arguing that it's difficult to get hired despite qualifications is not taking into consideration that there may be other factors. For instance, the person doing the hiring might notice her attitude of victimhood and decide to hire someone less likely to cause problems by expecting special or preferential treatment. The employer might feel that any criticism of performance would be met with accusations of racism rather than reflection and improvement. Simply put, the employer might feel that it's not worth the hassle.
Yes. They are looking for people to fit into their business and hopefully get along with their already hired employees.
if someone shows signs of this victumhood mentality i sure as heck wouldnt hire them and id tell them to their face that im looking for people that can do the job and do it well but also people that will not try to sue me if i for any reason have to fire them for failure to do their job because i give equal opportunity but also take equal caution with all my workers and if thats unacceptable to them to be recorded while on the job then sorry but i cant hire them and they would know ahead of time their station will be monitored for quality assurance and to protect mine and my companies interests in who we hire and if they are doing their job or not
Know what else is like a 3 legged stool? DEI. Except the D and E legs are longer than the I leg, so it always leans to the left.
Lol....pretty good
"I learned it in college." Lol😂 Of course you did, sweetie. Thats where everyone learns it.
DEI stands for "Didn't Earn It" ... not "Definitely Earned It."
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Division, Exclusion, and Inequality
@@meganandmichaelrodriguez8874 YES!!!!
It really bothered me that nobody corrected those last two ladies. Nobody was saying that just because a black person holds a certain position means that they were a DEI hire. They just must have misunderstood the situation that the lawyer guy laid out. He was proposing that if you tell companies that they need to hire based on race in order to fill quotas in order to be representative of the population, that at a certain point, you will have to throw out meritocracy in order to remain representative.
@@jags333 it’s the same situation everywhere. The black ladies talk louder and interrupt everytime anyone says something different or against them. It’s an intimidation tactic. The media has made whites afraid to be called racist. It bothers me that so many white people pander to blacks. We are all the same in Gods eyes. God sees the heart not the skin color.
which pretty much means there are going be DEI hires if they throw out the need of merits to represent a group based on race then by that very definition alot of them could be DEI hires as they didnt earn their positions and wasnt qualified for their positions
30:00 “Yea because your race was inherently racist.”
“Do you mean to say that white people are inherently racist?”
“I didn’t say that. That’s what you said.”
Just 🤦♂️
And in that situation some one should play their words back to them
welcome to the clown world where accountability means nothing and people want to throw the race card every time they get proven wrong or meets the consequences of their own actions
We need more creators like you man. Thanks for providing needed common sense...my grandmother sid it best (everybody is the same..we all got a round butthole)
Panels like this are anti-productive
Actually, they are very productive. They continue to show how racist the left is and always has been.
How does she know black people don’t answer the surveys 🤔
Same reason she thinks people are as racist as she thinks. They think people secretly think the same way they do. Other people just don't say it out loud like they do.
@@TheMrGreen28she thinks America is racist because she is racist and lives in America
Cuz she's taking from experience
@@GAMMAGOMAthat might be her experience but that would be considered anecdotal. Personal experience is one thing but a study conducted with many many people by trained experts is another. 🤔
There is way more classism than racism in the U.S. 😅 I don't look anywhere near the money i make. Every time i walk into "upscale " places ( auto dealerships, eateries, jewelry sellers, etc.), Sales people WILL NOT approach me.
The government makes it hard for many people to have generational wealth. Taxes, especially the inheritance tax, make it very difficult not racism.
She has got to be sure that everyone sees blacks as “victims”. It doesnt matter where the facts come from, who presents them, or the actual facts that are being presented. They have to present themselves as the victim so that they can still try collect some kind of preferential treatment. She shows the victim mentality that begs for something, instead of facing the adversity and working through it.
And as far as teaching kids how to act when they get pulled over by the cops, sorry folks, but it no longer matters what race you are. The police are out of control everywhere. All income levels, all neighborhoods, and all walks of life are all suffering from the militarization of our police forces.
Quit targeting this bs racism and move on. Everyone needs to focus on whats going on in america RIGHT NOW or we wont have a country to call “home”.
Without racism the Democratic Party dies… which is why they focus on it so much!
On a day to day how many of you actually experience racism. Not my friend said this or that but you personally! There is racist people but at the end of the day most people just want to go about their day unbothered and go home to their family!
I've seen some black people claim that white people smiling at them as they walk by is racist. So may have to specify what happened that was racist.
Bro your point about most people are not critical thinkers is so fucking accurate. The more I think about it, the more I see that as a common link between a lot of issues that are talked about today. Also, me and my gf love your videos; keep making the great content!
The second woman on the right doesn't want to fair discussion, she just wants her way or the highway. This is the problem with today, people only want the way they see things to be the way everyone sees things, and anyone who doesn't agree should be mocked with laughter or painted as racist for trying to fix the core of an issue rather than just slap "racism" as the explanation for every problem.
Ummmmm it's required by law to complete the census. If the person doesn't fill it out, then a census agent fills it out on their behalf based on the neighborhood info, so they are pretty close to accurate. And that is how states and communities get funding and other government benefits, so you may want to start campaigning for people to fill out the census....
They are living in the past. They are just repeating talking points without research.
Why do we keep letting underqualified people answer important questions?
Funny how facts don't matter.
These ladies ignorance is laughable
I part Cherokee and Slav where the word slave originated from. I basically have the World Woke Poker Tournaments Full House hand.
Where is my casino money and repetitions?! 😂
That is a fiesty mix :) greetings from Poland
@@kharig8268 as to you. Small 14k Midwest city I grew up in was predominantly Slavish and Polish.
Pretty much a bar every other block it seemed like. Drugs started moving in during the 90s and why I jumped ship and joined the military not long after high school.
being cherokee, your people actually were slavers in America before white people stepped foot here........
Man, those two ladies are annoying to listen to.
Does that lady know all black people to know they dont fill out census
Edit to add. When taxes arent put back towards your community, why keep voting for the people who spend your tax money elsewhere?
People need to learn history
Who built the railroad, and who did the mining in the early years. I am Chinese, I am not a victim.
Jesus is Lord Amen 🙏
Based brother wish people would study up on all history.
These folks need to make friends with Thomas sowell
Did you guys notice that the jean jacket woman literally said "it's indoctrinated"?
Im 25 and i dont know anyone personally with generational wealth
Same.
I’m 32 and same
After slavery was abolished in the United States, Chinese laborers were imported to the South as cheap labor to replace freed Blacks on the plantations. Many of the early Chinese laborers came from sugar plantations in Cuba and after the transcontinental railroad was completed, California also contributed to the labor supply. These laborers formed communities in the pockets of the Southeastern part of the United States, encountering racist policies and crossing paths with the African American community.
As a white woman, i myself would stay out of a sundown town because people who would hassle blacks would not be ok with some white stranger walking their ass around either!
Maybe there should be some oversight in the places that are in such a sad state.
How is the money being spent in these places?
Are their Representatives making good decisions?
Is the money going for what it was meant for?
Follow the money!
You hit the nail on the head 👍👏
DIDN'T earn it
DEI folks never consider their data is bad
Hmm. If he can't draw conclusions from the results of surveys that are present, why can she draw conclusions from surveys that aren't present?
Am I racist by Matt Walsh was definitely good movie!! DEI 😂😂
DEI FOR THE NFL AND NBA!!!!! WOOOOO!!!!
I always vote in person because once someone turned in a mail in ballot in my name! If I hadn’t voted in person I wouldn’t have known. The polling place made me swear out a statement and jump through hoops to cast my own vote and they wouldn’t tell me who the ballot stealer voted for.
To be fair, the lady in the white top didn’t say “are inherently racist.” She said “were inherently racist.” She then referenced ancestors doing bad things.
"Definitely Earned It" 😂
Thank you for saying that when it comes to racism, why just bring up white people.
When I was young and absolutely nuts, I purposely went to those alleged sundown areas in Indiana and I obviously never found any trouble. Stopped at a Hardee’s in one, good food, nice people! 😅
9:13 if the roads aren’t being fixed who the hell are you voting for 😂😂😂?
Even an expert should be open to being wrong or accepting new information. No one knows everything about anything! Period. SMH.
I would love for someone to give me the name of a single sundown town that exists today. The last time I saw one was when I was a child, 40 years ago, in rural Alabama (as a southerner, I just have to say this-I’ve seen more racism in the northeast, mostly between Latinos, blacks, and Asians, who openly hurled racial slurs at one another. I’ve never seen that in the south, probably bc racism was ONLY attributed to southerners, therefore never addressed anywhere else.)
0:25 Defining the word “racism” without grounding the definition in skin color. You can’t define a word by using it, but to completely ignore race as the foundation of what racism is…..we’re screwed.
The Census is required. If you don’t respond, they do go house to house to get the totals.
Will people stop saying about white privilege? I am 43 years of age, and I am still looking for this white privilege you say I have. Where is it?Where can I get it? I have looked everywhere, even in the mirror. You know why I can't find it? It's because it does not exist. Facts!
I swear I am so sick of the victim mentality. Lord, everyone has problems. You have to groom your kids. Why don't you just teach your kids to respect cops or others. If you do that there will never be any problems.
15:10 This woman!? Asian people were ABSOLUTELY used as slaves. Not only in this country, but across the world. Every single race has enslaved another at one point in history. She’s off her rocker!
I am continuously amazed with the amount of wisdom in this young man. He is definitely correct that critical thinking has become a lost characteristic.
Their definition of racism falls apart when you point to something like the caste system of india, where everyone is the same race.
I stopped talking about logic and responsibility with them.
8:19 “Bad statistics”
Pray tell, what statistic do you accept ma’am? What source would be believed?
Some of the people in this conversation are not educated enough to have this conversation.
What a DEI hire….
In Thailand we have the lottery keeping poor people poor. In America the NBA, NFL, MBA is doing the same thing.
Equal outcome is not possible.
Lol "Don't make any sudden moves when you're pulled over"...umm that goes for everyone
The last edition of the Green Book was in 1964!
How dare you bring facts into this conversation! 😂
Who here has been discriminated against/racially attacked by a blk person? Smash that like button!
Not me, but my brother. Twice
Great content Jojo
Some people will never give up the race card..It's such a crutch for ALOT to fall back onto..
Also, I wonder if we can assign points to other forms of privilege, such as "Mother privilege?" I am White, but my Mother died when I was 10. My Father died when I was 36, just a month before my son was born. Now, my [ex] Black GF (we met when our kids went to school together) had her parents well into their 90s- both of them and they were married. I had no parents and zero family, so when I divorced my husband- I had no one and nothing. She was still married and had her master's degree and both she and her husband worked and had lived in the same home for 20 years which they bought...I, however, had moved all over the world with my ex's job- and at the end, had registered my son for 15 SCHOOLS! Imagine moving 15 times WITH A CHILD! All the adjusting and well, that's another topic...We were with the foreign service/US embassies/US diplomats. So I was unable to work for most of our 20 year marriage bc of language barriers, no work in host country and frequent moves. I had no family. My ex was always gone- I had no Mother mentoring bc I had no Mother (since age 10) and no women family to help...I had no idea what I was doing as far as parenting but did my best (and I would say 98% alone- that's how dad was either on trips or just checked out and not helpful)... So, at the end of the day, when I had to leave- it was killing me to stay- massive gap in my resume, no support, no attorney for court- so I got no money- he closed all the accounts and basically took it all- got away with hardly any child support payments bc he was tricky and hid the money- but my point is- I live in a homeless shelter right now (I got my son off to college! Thank goodness! I paid my last dollar to get him there and then *collapsed*!)... But we are both Gen X and I have two Bachelors and she has a Masters...She had/has (one parent is still alive) very good parents and had a good upbringing, as did I. I had a wonderful family- but losing a Mother at 10 is HARD. You're on a different track for life. It changes you... But I had aunts and my Grandmother lived with us and so we both had good upbringings with similar values- but am I supposed to believe that I have White privilege over her? If so, how the hell did I get into this homeless shelter? Getting back up after that fall and attack in a divorce is like being a crab trying to crawl out of a bucket. Sadly, our friendship ended BC of all this identity politics- so I am VERY sensitive about this stuff and honestly? I am ANGRY! I am ANGRY at Joy Reid and Sunny Hostin. They made me lose my friend. Bc they're race-baiters.
Interestingly, my Kenyan-American friend who is a PhD and a university professor...She and I have *never* discussed race (with once exception based on a reaction when we went out to eat by how some Black Americans were treating her). She naturalized about 5 years back and we have been friends for about 10 years (so about 2-years less than my other friend)... She doesn't find it empowering to talk about victimization. She explained that Kenyans are quite grateful for post-war colonialism and cannot understand why Black Americans are so upset and carry a "chip." She knows the opportunity is there for them- but can't relate to not taking it and instead wanting reparations or blaming other people...
IDK, I didn't mean for this to be so long, but this is a very big deal to me, not to mention I fear we are further dividing and am concerned about racism for BOTH sides. I have experienced SO, SO much racism as a White woman in a NYC homeless shelter but even prior to entering- something fliipped and suddenly, I was being treated badly and all I had ever done was help everyone. It was weird.
And one last thing- it's quite a misnomer- this "generational wealth." I come from a very blue-blooded family- Mayflower descendant, DAR, Union Civil War soldier- died on Battle of Fredericksburg, direct descendant of US POTUS (Garfield) and signer of DoI (Rutledge) and prior to America- all of my great Grandparents were kings, queens, lords, ladies, counts, countesses, even saints! 😆 But no slave-owners, etc. And my Father's side naturalized to USA from Belgium/France and his Father was a champion Olympic ice skater and built skating schools all over USA... Quite rich families and very good families- but I do not know any Gen X-er who has ever sat down for a probate proceeding... Aside from the real elites- like Trump & the Johnson family, the Koch Brothers, Gates', etc., there's not SO much "generational wealth." I have not known regular middle class or even upper middle class - upper class- have much given to them. Our economy sucks and sometimes parents want to spend their $ before they die. IDK, but there is just not much of that kind of wealth that people talk about. Most folks, unless mutli millionaires or even trillionaires nowadays, are just winging it like everyone else. Obvioiusly- a good famiy- a nice lifestyle w/my ex and here I am in a shelter. 😂 It's okay and I will make it out- but it happens to everyone. It's been very humbling.
There are just SO, SO many misunderstandings about White people and privilege and we're learning more and more about whose boats these were and who sold who to whom and things like free mason things and looking at other alternative narratives to Russia, Germany and the WW's- like maybe it is not as we think or have been told. And lastly- the police?.. Let me tell you- we are learning that this is definitely not unique to Black people. This is a whole other topic- but they operate as a gang- almost as a cult or their own race...They do bad things to Whites, too. IDK, this is all nuanced. I would love to post more about my experiences on welfare and how it's sort of damaged my psyche and sort of made me feel like a victim- which I have never felt before...Learning a lot. But it's best to not coddle people in my spot. We must pull ourselves up and out bc getting money you didn't earn (for a long period of time- crisis stuff is warranted)- it changes your mind. I cannot explain it but when you get something for nothing- it doesn't feel earned and you don't feel as grateful or energetic. It's scrambled by brains...
I hope I can contribute to this convo once I get out of here [god-willing]. This silly post is way too long and exposes too much of me so I probably will delete after a day or two! 😆 But GOOD LUCK to you! You're SO, SO bright and willing to look at everything through a more nuanced scope and this is very astute and healthy! You're helping so much with relations! Keep it up. I am 💔 about my friend. But my son was starting to be unfairly targeted in NYC w/race and it all really hurt bc we're both really sweet people- but this new almost-cult with race has ruined so much, IMO! I went to an all-Black middle-class middle school in Stone Mtn, GA. We had ZERO problems. I never experienced any racism in reverse until my 50th year. A lifetime I devoted to help and the tables were turned. Very hurtful. Sorry! I'll be quiet! Good job! Will be
👀 for you in the future! You might have a political one, eh? The world is your OYSTER! 👍😍 Take care! 💜
NOT EVERYTHING😂
Sounds like it's YOU😂❤
So she made it all the way to college before experiencing rasism. So its not everywhere
😐 she definitely got insecure and defensive real quick. And ignored the truth they tried to see bleh
The first woman, what I heard was "I learned it in college and then it was further taught to me by this professor after college where she was spreading it to those who couldn't afford college".
The same woman defined "equity" with the definition of "equality" so she doesn't even understand the difference in the two words. And that is a huge problem for most people, they don't understand the difference between the two, they think 'equity' is another word for 'equality'. Her example however leaves out the equality in that two people BOTH with masters degrees may apply but one actually has more real world experience in the field to make them better qualified, however that person doesn't get hired because they are white and the company is running a DEI program so is not hiring any white people.
In my position they tried this, we have certain minimum requirements, no problem. When I was hired, they didn't look at race just those requirements and if you passed the tests for those requirements, you got into the new hire class, period end of story. They got a new person in the hiring position who decided there were not enough black people, we started seeing new hire classes that were entirely black. On the surface that doesn't sound like a problem, yay more black people. The problem came in that they started ACCOMMODATING those black people because that was the only way they could take the job, which was why they weren't taking the job previously. So someone who had been working there for ten years and had earned seniority to have the schedule they wanted suddenly was working a schedule that didn't work for them, this wasn't just white people it was just non-black. Personally, I for example prefer evenings, was coming in at 4 to 5 pm and suddenly found myself scheduled for 7 am. Big difference. I could do it, I was just working my preference, but others who had that happen to them could not and ended up either being fired for absenteeism or quitting for a job that gave them the schedule they needed for their families. So they lost a lot of their senior experienced workers and the location's overall company stats went waaaaaay down. It wasn't that they were hiring black people, it was that they force hired people that didn't originally want the job due to their schedules and then accommodated them over their current work force. That was the DEI portion that just doesn't work for jobs like this one. They stopped after about five months but the damage was done.
The first lady has no idea what racism is😊
I thought loans depended on credit score and how much you could afford.
Anyone else notice that the dude was shaking like a leaf?
Yes. I was thinking that could be a nerve damage issue or Parkinson’s bc his voice wasn’t trembling in the slightest.
Simple definition.. Treating someone different because of skin color...
Feels like these people all went to some d EI seminar and drank the Kool aid. . And every parent with any sense. Every parent hasa talk with their kids about how to act when they get pulled over by the police.
Yuck!
“Education isn't something you can finish.” ― Isaac Asimov
The fact that the first question was, what is your definition of racism? Really explains why we are at where we are at in society here in America today.
3:00 This woman is so backwards it’s bizarre. We judge loan worthiness based on your credit score, your credit score is based on the financial decisions you’ve made across your life. Just asinine to think any of that applies to 2024.
Because if they taught these people that their ancestors were paid their reparations and nothing is owed to them because their ancestors were paid directly then this entire discussion would end.
Unqualified professors....affirmative action hires 😂
@7:10…as a brown skin male…I literally worked the census myself in my own non white majority brown skinned neighborhood and we had people participate and got info from the majority of our addresses
When discussing equal opportunity vs equal outcomes use education at kindergarten level as an example. I went to school with the just black children. We started at the same level, but at the end of the school year the outcomes between the students were different. Many were able to put in the work that I didn’t do so I got the grade I deserved. I can’t look to blame the school. I have to start with me.
People like this are why I no longer trust anybody who went to college.
Not only that, university and the whole education system in it's current form for the past 150 years never taught you any real world skills and knowledge outside of writing, reading and arithmetic assuming you couldn't do them before going to elementary school...
I know because I graduated a top university with STEM and they taught me about 3-5% of what I need for the bottom of the barrel non-internship position.
While people I know, friends and acquaintances who are working 9-5 and making 3-6x the average salary at 23-25 years old never went to university. They went to private courses and self-educated.
@3:02… It blows me away that with as many Brown skinned folks that own million dollar houses in major cities all over this country that I’m still hearing about red lining from before my parents were born
They're also wrong about racism being learned. It's part of almost every creature. Otherwise baby deers would walk right up to a lion.
It's an innate part of our biology. But how it's interpreted is learned.
I never did a senses questioner
I would have loved to bring up Anthony Johnson(black man and former indentured servants), the first slave owner in the colonies, fought to make black indentured servants into chattel slaves. He lost his first try against the crown. But later he tried again on appeal and won his case, making him the creator of black chattel life long slavery in the colonies. I feel like she doesn’t have a good foundation in order to make an informed argument.
As someone who lived through the redlining cases of the 70s and 80s it was clear then that most of the allegations were nonsense. Denying loans based on a persons inability to pay the loan back was called redlining. Realtors bringing people into the neighborhood that has houses they say they can afford was included as redlining. Some allegations were absolutely true, but much of it was false allegations.
Jean jacket lady: data that doesn’t fit my narrative is simply bad data.