No shit, Sherlock. Americanizing German names is nothing new. It's same reason we say "Muller" instead of "Myooler" or "Müller" or "Steen" instead of "Stein"
@@carlosmatos9848 In essence, I agree with you. But this by no means relieves him of him of the responsibility of designing the very rockets that destroyed England and thousands of innocent people. Whether you kill people by association or by plan, you must be held accountable, and NONE of these Nazi scientists ever were. They just got bigger paychecks.
His life is crazy. It actually wasn’t “the US army “ who brought him over. Yes, he was on a list but it was Von Braun’s brother who was sent on a bicycle to approach the Americans because he has the best English. They had already taken all blueprints and research and hid it in an abandoned iron mine.. it was like 14 tons of documents. They didn’t want the SS to destroy it, and the entire team talked about surrendering and who they wanted to surrender to and decided the Americans were their best bet. Towards the end when all Nazis were vying for power Himmler wanted everything moved to somewhere where he would have control and was trying to consolidate his power on all weapons programs. Apparently Von Braun said the “war was already over “ and someone snitched him out and he was arrested and held for 2 weeks without charge before Albert Speer got Hitler to release him and declare him untouchable because he was indispensable. I don’t think he cared either way and was apolitical.
" The V2 Rocket funktioned perfectly, it just landed the wrong Planet" ; "The same forces of nature that enable us to fly to the stars also enable us to destroy them" Wernher Magnus Maximilian Freiherr von Braun
I suppose you could say that Einstein did the same thing. But in the end he regretted inventing E=MC2, saying that "he wishes he would have become an accountant."
He was a Nazi tho… you do realise…? And he achieved a lot via the use slaves and test subjects etc. Gotta be fucked in tbe head to have any respect for this guy… wow cos he made and rocket and went to the moon. The moon is worthless.
Why was there no mention of the fact that there was a nation-wide hysteria over Soviet missile technology in the late fifties and early sixties? Huge numbers of people were treated for anxiety disorders over the threat of nuclear war. People in this country have the memory of goldfish.
Himmler funded the German rocket program, ergo it fell under SS oversight. Wernher von Braun was only photographed once in a Nazi uniform and that was when Himmler visited Peenemunde. Had he not acted like the good little Nazi, Himmler would have questioned his loyalty and his life might have become endangered. Himmler did not care how brilliant you were, unless you towed the NDSP line, you would probably have at the least been imprisoned or shot. Himmler would have put a potato peeler in charge and told Hitler he was a brilliant rocket scientist and a good little Nazi.
@@dylp420 I will degrade Von Braun when you take on the Funktionshäftling and capos in the camps, who were hundreds of times more violent than Von Braun who just wanted to launch his rocket. After the war Von Braun was asked what he thought of the V-2 program and he said right altitude wrong planet.
@@toddboboz7894 you apparently can't even learn history, so look at your second statement again. It applies to you. It isn't opinion that the US went to the Moon. It is cold, hard fact.
Everyone armchairs about how "they would have resisted the Nazis and other tyrannies from their couch if they lived in Germany back then", but as a professor pointed out, there is a 99%+ chance that had you been born in Germany back then, under those conditions you would have either join the Nazi Party or look away & ignore what they were doing, actual resistance would be extremely rare. Von Braun actually was arrested by the Gestapo for making what they considered a non patriotic statement about really just wanting to go to space, not wanting to fight a war.
True. It's easy to have perfect retrospection. But putting yourself in their position and thinking about it from the people, the culture, and the times, and then ask what you'd really do if placed in that position yourself. Or removing Nazis and the baggage and strong feelings that come with it, what if a political movement took over your country today, and speaking out against it meant imprisonment or death, and as long as you signed a paper saying you were a member of the party they'd leave you alone. Would you sign? Would you join? Or would you get sent to jail? Or lose your job? Or get pulled out of bed in the middle of the night and shot in the head? Maybe you could get away with not participating, and then just get cultural ostracism as a reward. But if you actually spoke out against it you'd likely get jailed or killed.
@@andmicbro1 True, and it was not always about oneself, it was also about family & keeping them out of prison, fed and a roof over their heads. Germany was one of the more educated, free thinking nations when the Nazis seized power, but dire economics, a demagogue can change everything. We rationalize things. Right now China has actual concentration camps where they are sterilizing minorities and imprisoning dissidents, but the U.S. and these enlightened nations in Europe cannot wait to sign more trade deals with them in order to harvest cheap labor abroad, we are not even batting an eye.
@Leo Mate it’s actually a fact he ran a rocket factory in Berlin and would hang the 5 slowest workers and the workers were slaves which ended up to be Jews. Maybe pick up a book and read once and a while?
He was not sent to redstone in hsv ( my home town) he chose to set up his program here. Our mountains reminded him of Bavaria plus our water ways made for easy transport . He was visiting redstone arsenal and decided to set up here . I live about 5 miles from his old house . He built this city and gave the U.S. control of space . To say he " worked for NASA " is an insult to the man . He built and fathered NASA.
@@chaist94 if you haven't been here in 30 yrs you have much much more to see then Grissom. It's nice by the way makes the park way hell in the morning lol . You wouldn't recognize Madison and the surrounding areas they have all blown up too its like one big town from the state line to the river .
@@ThePanshow10 well they talked about many things of the nazi years and how things were there and their technology, but the one thing that stuck with me and what he told me with a straight face and never went back on the story was him and Wernher were taking lunch one day and there were 3 people total in the room and my uncle ask him "are aliens real?" And wernher looked at my great uncle and said "how do you think we've come so far?" And looked back down at his newspaper and kept reading. Now everyone has told a few lies and fibs in their lifetime, but I've never known of him to be a big liar and he wouldnt tell stories unless he was asked about them. I'm just taking his word because he is family and I trust him. I've seen pictures of them working together and I know my uncle worked for NASA so why would he say such a thing? Just doesn't add up
I believe him. I remember hearing that when someone asked him how they did it he said "we had help from them" (or something to that nature) & nodded his head upwards.
Actually they weren't/aren't aliens. They are the Nephilim, fallen angels. And yes our government and other countries have received help from them. But I wonder what they wanted for their knowledge? 🤔
@@kathyj6070 I'm with you, but I call them aliens because that's how everyone else knows them by. Your soul, or a soul shall I say. That's what you have to give up for it.
While he was close to execution for defying Nazi leadership he could've certainly done more.. and most likely die in the aftermath. Von Braun was an opportunistic engineer, who happened to be born in the "wrong" country. If he'd been born in the UK or the U.S. he would've most likely achieved the same while not having to survive a fascist regime. But certainly hes a bad guy for not getting killed by the Nazis.
@@TruthSeekersChannel If one has the ability to develop a weapon which is both very bad at killing people while also being grounbreaking in its design, it could be even considered immoral to not do so. The V2 was a very inefficient weapon, would the effort to construct them been used for any other weapon, more people would've died.
@@MrPobanz The ability to develop a weapon we all have. To do so is a crime against humanity! There are no excuse in mass murdering innocent people. They fired more than 5000 v2 rockets with the only goal to kill as much as possible children, women and innocent civilians. No excuse or groundbreaking or whatever, make a groundbreaking machine that help nature and serve mankind not kill mankind. A weapon is a weapon, made to kill.
He didn’t even like Hitler and barely wore the Nazi uniform. Nor was he involved political activity. He turned a blind eye to mistreatment he saw, but as you said he felt powerless to stop it. He’s words not mine. He did note the horrible repulsive work conditions, but he did not know slave labor was being used from what I read.
Funny how guards and other SS officers were executed after offering the defense "I was powerless to stop it, and if I had tried to stop it, I might have been one of the ones executed," and that's exactly what's said here at the conclusion, as if we're supposed to just shrug his involvement off. I guess if you know rockets well enough, then killing a bunch of poor bastards is okay. I'd strip his name off the VB civic center in Huntsville. He's former SS... How many other SS personnel are lauded with landmarks? Anyone travel down Himmler Highway lately? Been to Goebbels Downs? Hitlerville? How 'bout the Reinhard Heydrich Museum of Art? People involved in the space program are blinded by their appreciation of his contribution. No one wants to truly own up to the fact that he used slave labor... much of which died on his watch due to abuse and starvation.
His Country was destroyed by the Allies,yet he came to America and He was a Good citizen of America, Forgiveness is the work of God. Press on with Pride!
he became a great citizen who LOVED American and loved being an American. He didn't take our freedoms for granted like many who are born here do. -- Jack Tueller talks about the sentiments that famous engineer, Werner von Braun, shared with him about how amazing it is to be an American. th-cam.com/video/ODAt_UytX0I/w-d-xo.html
You just found that out now? Old news... and yes, welcome to the Western world. The same world that's filled with ignorance and hypocrisy, yet they hired Nazis to work with them (looking at the US)🤷♂️. As long as they are great assets to the country, their past will be covered. That's the only message from this whole thing. It's still the same today, and will never change. Sad but true.
He was a German but coerced into joining the Nazi party. He never sought out membership in the Nazi party....he never held Nazi ideologies, his relatives were members of the former democratic Weimar government which was ousted by Hitler's Nazis. His rocketry program was started years before the Nazis came into power
I have a relative who lived in a communist country. He was told if he wanted to keep his job he had to join the communist, so he joined. He was a card carrying communist party member.....but he hated communism
Wernher von Braun saved my grandmother and if he wouldn’t have been there I don’t know if my grandmother would have survived. He wasn’t a bad guy. He only stuck in this dictatorship he couldn’t run away from.
Sorry. Maybe thats true, but he was a very opportunistic person. He loved to play the major role in the german rocket program and had absolute no problems to switch into the US program. Being Hitler´s darling and becoming an American hero.
As far as Von Braun being Hitler's darling... for most of his reign Hitler gave little support to Von Braun's rocketry program.... thinking his ideas were impractical and foolish. Hitler preferred to build fighter planes and bombers. If Hitler had fully supported von Braun a few years earlier the outcome of the war may have been very different. It was as a result of Hitler's lack of insight into Von Braun's genius and practical applications of his work for war that caused his demise.
Werner had no choice in the Third Reich- do or die. He embraced his new life in America, and ultimately became one of America's greatest heros. This video is misleading- Von Braun is celebrated as much as his astronaut peers; for which his mighty Saturn V was crucial in getting men to the moon and back safely- of which it did without fail every time it was launched. Still to this day it's the most powerful machine mankind has ever built.
Von Braun created the space program, the US funded his plans, the astronauts were the passengers. Von Braun was the crucial and most important ingredient. There was only one Von Braun.....there were many astronauts to choose from....any of whom could have gone on any of the missions. There was an astronaut training program to which many applied to fill the role of astronaut.....on the other hand there was no program to replace Von Braun's rocketry genius.... because such a program would not have been possible.
I like the clarity of the video... One thing though: Americans (and Wernher) already lost 3+ times to Russians before the race to the moon started. (First artificial satellite, first living being in space - ❤ Laika, first human in space, first spacecraft to reach lunar surface, first images of the far side of the Moon...). Would Sergei Pavlovich Korolev not die prematurely they might have been the first to land humans as well. And yes Korolev was Russian not Nazi (though Russians had their Paperclip as well) ;)
the first man made object that ever left the earth's atmosphere after 4 billion year of things only falling down on this planet was a V2-rocket on 20th June 1944 started from Peenemünde on the coast of the Baltic sea. The first American rockets as well as the first Soviet ones were based on the Nazi's V2. Even the first Chinese rockets were clones of the V2, since they copied from the Soviets.
i was not nazist, he just executed orders, like many others. He was told to research for missiles for people to die and he did. What is so bad about it?
these "Werner Von Braun is a Nazi" gets uploaded every few years . . . that picture of Wernver Von Braun is worthless; he's not even in a Nazi uniform when he took that picture with Hitler at the bottom. Werner Von Braun had to be coerced into wearing a Nazi uniform, and he only wore it(later on, once again, in csse you've already forgottern the above) when Hitler came. Wernver Von Braun choose America over the Soviets when the war ended. If he was a communist and anti-Jew, he would have chosen the Soviets.
he was against communism and very was very willing to help the US beat Russia in the space race and the cold war. and he also was not a racist or bigot being he fully believed before man could ever explore the universe and live together on mars we had better learn how to live with our fellow man and women. white, black, brown, yellow here on earth first or else we would be doomed to failure trying to expand out and have colonies on the moon or mars. and im sure if there was any Jewish talent whos minds could help get mankind to space, NASA was an equal opportunity employer. and he would be happy to have anyone who was the best of what they did no matter what their origins were.
What are you talking about? If he was anti Jew he wouldn't have went to the USSR, they represented everything Germany fought against, represented for the most part an international Jewish state.
I don't care what you call him, he is in my eyes a worthless mass murderer, and the American army should be punished for their crimes of harbouring one of the biggest mass murderer in history!! Go shove your rockets in the place where the sun don't shine cowboy!
Except for the part where Von Braun hung the 5 slowest Jews outside his V2 rocket factory. If he was alive today he would be tried and convicted of war crimes....
@@FancyAnimal If he had done that, it would have been known then, and he wouldn't have been hung in the whichamacallit trials. This is bullshit started by some nameless person trying to smear Werner Von Braun.
When i was growing up in Madison County in the '60s we had actual pictures of the rockets being tested and launched. They were framed, 8x10's hanging on the walls of our Den. Granted I was just a kid, but I don't remember anyone at my house saying anything bad about him. We were taught to be proud of those rockets.
Well one reason why anyone who ever worked with or knew him never said anything bad about him was cause there is nothing bad anyone who knew him could have to say about him. He was a very great man and was the world's most brilliant engineer. and he loved being an American.
The most logic things you can hear from smart people with short memory. If US wouldn't kidnapped Braun the Russian would. Then how come Russian made it same style same way same years without Braun?
In my reserach for my thesis on this very topic, it turns out Von Braun was threatened with his family being sent to the camps if he didn't go along...so..
Except helping design and develop (through slave labour) the then state of the art V-2 rocket, and then of course joining the SS and becoming a member of the Nazi party...........which just happens to be one of the most terrible, psychopathic, and inhumane parties to ever exist in history. The only reason that he was not sen sentenced to hang by his neck like the rest of his Nazi cronies, was that he was capable of advancing the US space programme and certainly not least help develop a eventually head the US Army Ballistic Missile Agency. If anything Von Braun was a filthy coward who immediately jumped ship when the going got tough, and sold of all his Nazi funded knowledge and experience in exchange for his neck and plenty of US Dollars.
@@_J.F_ but thats not his department and if you read a biography, wernher was interested in space exploration and being a pioneer, him bein a young rocket pioneer leader in germany, the nazi party was interested in him, they asked him to join and he had no other choice, he needed too continue his dream of exploring space.
Who Am I? You cannot assume that all drug traffickers are in favour of illegal and dangerous drugs either - they could be forced to do the job - but that still doesn’t make them lovable people does it?! If you spend close to a decade serving the Nazi movement, and the SS, and have no issues with exploiting forced labour in your everyday life, you become just as bad as the people you work for. Von Braun did not protest to any of it as it suited his personal agenda fine, and when the Nazis lost he swiftly swapped sides to serve the USA. Many other scientists, businessmen, researchers etc. fled the Nazi regime rather than joining it. Many of them offered their skills to the allied when the war started, instead of putting their knowledge into the Nazi war machine. Von Braun, however, only changed sides when the Nazis had lost the war, so don’t try make it sound as if he was hating every minute of being an important Nazi.
I love how these historical debates about whether a person was bad or good never really include the opportunity for redemption. Imagine living your entire life and never make a mistake. Imagine living your entire life without ever feeling any regret. Or ever feeling like wow maybe I might have done that better if I made a different choice. I don't know who those people are but I sure wish that they would stop making content and stop airing their opinions or rather I wish they would continue to air their opinions I wish that less people would listen to those opinions and give them credit
Boi the Nazis First invented the Ufo Like Planes thats why the American wanted hin and His knowledge...because then the American can build them themselves thats how Life works
He never apologized. He never took any responsibility. He justified it under the guise of, “I was just following orders” which btw soldiers have the right to deny orders if they were illegal or immoral. And a lot soldiers did refuse to take part. So you can’t hold people to different standards. If others had the where with all to stand their ground and were not punished for not partaking in genocide the others could have to. The grand total of soldiers who were killed for disobeying orders......... 0. Literally 0. Not one soldier was murdered for refusing to partake in the death camps/slave camps or any of the cruel stuff. Also the SS was something you had to sign up, volunteer for, or ask to be recruited. So when people say, “they had to follow orders or they would be killed” is just a flat out lie. A lie that people bought in to. He could have tried to stop it or at the very least not taken part and nothing would’ve happened to him.. and yet he still purposely did nothing. Furthermore he maintained a snotty attitude as if his desire to build rockets was so important that the regime was irrelevant. Couple people on the moon...6 million dead. He put his ambition before the lives of 6 million people.
I'm just happy we got him instead of Russia...This guy was very important to out history and I watched a doc where he was instrumental in helping with desegregating efforts in Huntsville, AL....He didn't want to live in a community where people were treated like that...Whether its true or not, I have no idea but why would I doubt it.?.? it definitely seems obvious that he viewed himself as an American and was darn proud to be one....He was in the most difficult of situations and in order to build his rockets he needed funding and that came from the party in power at the time...Einstein could have very well found himself in the same precarious situation had he not been Jewish and wisely fled......End of day, our Country was lucky to have him embrace our Country and thank God he did...It sucks that many of his rockets killed many good people on the orders of Hitler--not Werner, Hitler--he only built the transportation for was a genius rocket scientist obviously
He had no qualms about using slave labour to build his rockets, he certainly was a Nazi, he was a brilliant mind, but so were many other top scientists and engineers in Germany at the time. He was a monster, history has seen his deeds.
The whole "he's evil because he knew his rockets were being made with slave labor" is silly nonsensical logic. He didn't create the German slave labor program -- the Germans were using slave labor regardless -- if his rockets weren't made with slave labor, those slaves would have been used to make something more useful to the German war effort. The question to ask him was, did he know his V-2 was a huge boondoggle (and thus he was actually indirectly aiding the Allies) without an atomic warhead, or was he of the belief that conventional rockets could help Germany win the war? I suspect he spent the money the Nazis offered because he wanted to work on rockets of any sort, and didn't really care how militarily useful they were.
Well I'd say you were sort of right about him spending the money the Nazis offered because he wanted to work on rockets of any sort. But to him any rocket that could help him build bigger and bigger ones so that man could go to space and actually all the way to mars was his real goal. and to stay alive being that once he was in the nazis that's like the mob and you do as directed and you produce what they want or failure meant you got killed. But I have to belive space was his real goal being that it was his dream from when he was just a young teen when he even convinced himself that man would walk on the moon in his lifetime and it would be HIM that got them there. And this was all before the nazis discovered him as an amateur rocket pioneer. long before the war when Germany was trying to build up its arms but had that pesky Treaty of Versailles restricting what Germany could have. and rockets were not a banned weapon cause no one was using them to any great effect before the germans. his who life's goal and dream was to go to space and for the betterment of all mankind. first and foremost. and if making weapons was a way to meet that goal or get his foot in the door of a big government program that could fund it. he was game.. he even laughed real hard in his later years when he said when he was 17 he figured it would take lots and lots of money to go to mars.. lol and he thought of a number that was more money then he could comprehend at the time. he thought it would take at least 1 billion dollars. so that's like a kid today trying to picture 1 quadrillion dollars because billons was a huge money figure back then.
@@jjames3793 i dont get all of the things U write but i know that U have knowledge the wolrd war 2 was Just red Herring ..i Hope i get IT right What u Just wrote
It also does not matter if Von Braun was a Nazi when your one of the most intelligent humans in the world that can build rockets to go to space you become one of the most wanted people to anyone. I personally think that the US would not of been able to go into space without Von Braun. We also have nuclear missiles that can destroy the whole world because of Von Brauns work.
Why? Life in Germany was never better under Hitler and the nazi's. We defeated the wrong people, our loving brothers the germans. The real war crimes were committed by Eisenhower, Stalin, and Churchill if you care at all about the truth!
He did flee in a way, he mainly wanted to build rockets for space and at the time Germany, where he already lived, showed the most interest. he worked on rockets in Germany until late war, when he sent his brother (also on the rocket team) to go and find the Americans (Wernher couldn't because he broke his arm). his brother rode his bike and found the Americans, he then went back to get Wernher and the crew. they then surrendered to the us and you can actually find photos of him with American troops while his arm is in a cast.
And something no one mentions is the fact that he didn't want his rockets to be weaponized. this may sound unimportant but he never gave permission for the rockets to be weaponized.
Where was he supposed to go? His dream was to build large liquid-fueled rockets. Who in the 1930s was doing that with any serious funding? ....In America, Robert Goddard was regarded as a joke -- as a krank. The CalTech team of Frank Malina, et al. was also seriously underfunded; and all they had was that wimpy WAC Corporal by the end of the war. "Rockets" were in such disrepute in America and Britain, that when the CalTech crew made rockets for assisted take off of overweight aircraft, the military insisted that they be called, "JATO -- JET Assisted Take Off" rather than the more logically named ROCKET-Assisted Take Off (or RATO). Von Braun did what almost all Germans did: He looked the other way -- he looked down at his task without looking left or right. The ONE time he made a comment regarding the course Germany was taking in World War II, he was reported to the authorities by a woman who attended the drinking party he was at. He was arrested, and not freed until others reminded the authorities of his importance to the weapons programs.
Most people do not know that Van Braun was an honorary colonel in the ss......also...it may be true that latter in his life, he may have become a born-again christian
It's far to easy to look back, with full 20/20 hindsight and pass judgement. However, most people who pass judgement, probably would have done just the same, had they been in that position, themselves. Everyone likes to think of themselves as a hero type figure, but in all reality, most wouldn't live up to that vision. We forget that self-preservation is hard-coded in our DNA and as a result, we quickly adapt to the social norms and pressures. Those w/ highly ambitious goals are more likely to conform, as a means of not only ensuring survival of themselves, but the survival of those goals and aspirations. Unfortunately, for those who many not like it, if Wernher Von Braun had chosen not to fall in line and play the game, the moon still might be unexplored today. I probably wouldn't even be typing this message now, as I would have likely never seen this video, since most of the technology we enjoy today, was developed as a direct result of WWII & the Cold War (including the space race), etc.
Honestly everything you said is right but I feel it's not him who is the worry. All judgement aside yea but its no secret the Nazis had geniuses. But how did a group of them do what they did and also create a genocide?
@@alecmanz3596 If you're looking for the origin of what would ultimately evolve into the mass genocide, we know as the Holocaust, you need to look no further than the Eugenics movement, originating in the late 19th century. Unfortunately, the ideas and experiments that would inspire the Nazis originated in the United States, w/ the first of two major social experiments (the second being the Holocaust), being put into practice, within the United States, in the early 20th century. By law, United States citizens, thought to be hereditarilly impure were routinely sterilized against their will and sometimes without their knowledge (children would grow up to find out that their parents had declared them mentally feeble, allowing their physician to lawfully perform a surgical sterilization procedure). There were actually talks, regarding the use of Euthanasia, on the genetically impure and the feeble minded, w/ gas chambers being the primary method of disposal. If you're interested, I suggest checking out the PBS "American Experience" documentary, titled "The Eugenics Crusade", which you can find a link to, below. Otherwise, Wikipedia has a rather informative article, regarding the Eugenics movement, in the United States, which I will also provide the link to, below. PBS American Expereince: The Eugenics Crusade: th-cam.com/video/GabYIm7h1lw/w-d-xo.html Wikipedia: Eugenics in the United States: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics_in_the_United_States
I agree with the self preservation concept as you described. Obviously he proved that by agreeing to join us without any hassle immediately after the Nazis were defeated. He was spared again by coming to work for us (the enemy). Nazi party, Southern Democrat...didn't matter as long as he and his family were safe and he was building rockets.
Grant Lolley Exactly! So what if he was a National Socialist. It’s not like he was committing major war crimes or ordering executions, etc. The truth of the matter is, that the United States would never had won the “Space Race”, if it weren’t tor him. Secondly, this story says more for the USA, than it does for him, being that they still chose to take him in, knowing his past. In all honesty, even if he was involved in war crimes, it’s not like the US would have denied him and his skills. The US would have had no moral or ethical qualms, in regards to simply covering them up, anyways.
@@Mattipedersen That's true. I believe that the Nuremburg trials brought the evil ones to justice that should have been. He had a dream of building space rockets. After he began to work in that field, the Nazis came to power. He and every other industry were absorbed by the party. We (USA) also would have never condemned Ferdinand Porsche and the industrial powerhouse that would help rebuild the German infrastructure after the war.
Werner vonBrunn was not a Nazi Party member, von Braun, sorri pur diesen teilSchlimm buechstaebische, miteinander! him was not! they may might have give him cerifys and even convince him that he hads such status?! ask Werner,, well? most Nazi Partei members weren't "racist" in the way most folx think about that term "racist"
Imagine cooking your neighbors kids and discarding their bones in your backyard. Then the police coming to your door asking you for your recipe and offering you a head chef job for their policemens ball...
I know Von Braun is a hero in the aerospace field and at Nasa , But the Building of the V-2 was constructed with human slaves and there's lots of pictures of Von Braun touring the V-2 Manufacturing sites. I can't help but remember him as being complicit in the evils of the Nazi empire .
so what and what's your point?? what does that have to do with anything?? All weapons programs and war cost lives and many of them. and we used prisoners as labor also. just like everyone else did and even today still do.
Why didn't he stop it? People who ask these questions do it from luxury and ignorance of living in the US, where you aren't imprisoned or shot for standing up to the government.
@@c.l.1820 You have no idea what you're talking about. You've never lived in a totalitarian regime, and clearly never spoken to someone who has. You'd like to think that if you lived in Nazi Germany you would have stood up for the Jews, but if you're like most people, you would have been cowed. If you lived in the 1800's you'd like to think you'd have opposed slavery, but most likely you'd have stood by and thought nothing of it, benefitting from the labor of others. You have the luxury of NOT living in those times and the luxury of being indignant of over moral injustices people already gave their lives to end. It's easy to denounce evil from a distance, where it can't harm you. Are you willing to go to the Middle East and stand up to Islamist extremists who throw homosexuals off of roofs to their deaths, and beat women for having the audacity to tempt men to rape them, knowing that by doing so you might have your head cut off? Yeah, I didn't think so.
,EX-Nazi‘!! Member of the Nazi-Party but never a convinced Nazi. He even was arrested by the Gestapo because he did not came along with the Nazi Ideology.
@@GeneralCurtisELeMay-wh5gh а Гитлер освободил его.Гитлер хороший -гестапо плохое.В книге "Человек в высоком замке" сказано, что гестапо отменили в 1947 году.Похоже, эту организацию даже сами нацисты не любили.
John Doe I’m afraid you’re wrong, my friend. As someone who’s taken German classes, I can absolutely assure you that the narrator’s pronunciation is correct.
For once, a pretty 'apolitical' view on the subject. For sure he was a member, for sure he was aware of what was happening at the Dora factory (managed by the SS), but I doubt anyone (amongst the scientists) could have prevented or stopped the crimes at Dora, not even Von Braun's manager, Gen. Dornberger. Most influential people in Germany in the late 30's were more or less forced into the nazi party... and those who refused had to face serious (if not fatal) consequences, this did also apply to their families... But this has to be contextualised a bit... the word 'nazi' didn't mean anything particularly horrifying at the time, it just stood for "national socialism", and while the SA/SS had already committed some serious crimes before WWII actually began, there was no conscience yet of the scale of what was to come, it's ridiculous to judge those people with today's knowledge !
@@XBLspartanx170 because I live very close to Germany, and have family on both sides of the border... my grand-parents were pretty much torn apart during the war, having close relatives on both sides (those regions were made German during the war, and went back to their original country thereafter, pretty confusing for the people there, who where seen as Germans after the war), and I spent quite some time and energy to collect their stories (in the whole family). There were some camps in Germany before the war, but this was rather kept confidential, things started to become really messy during the war, and in particular when things started to go wrong for the Germans, somewhere between 42 and 43... Talking about Dora, V2 production was not even possible before 43-44 (not ready), and was moved from Peenemünde after a heavy bombing by the RAF in august 43, so it's not like Von Braun & Co knew about Dora when they became member of the party... and even at Peenemünde, there had been nothing comparable to what happened in Dora afterwards... :( Now, don't get me wrong, near the end of the war (43 onwards), the awareness of these crimes had increased enormously, despite what many Germans pretended... but there was not much to be done at that point.
Operation paperclip.
Duhhh
Silly rabbit shut up
His name was pronounced verhner fon brawn.
No shit, Sherlock. Americanizing German names is nothing new. It's same reason we say "Muller" instead of "Myooler" or "Müller" or "Steen" instead of "Stein"
Good point! I like the German pronunciation MUCH better.
A Nazi by any other name.
@@tiffsaver Yes, but I still believe Von Braun was more interested in rocketry and space travel than any Nazi ideology.
@@carlosmatos9848
In essence, I agree with you. But this by no means relieves him of him of the responsibility of designing the very rockets that destroyed England and thousands of innocent people. Whether you kill people by association or by plan, you must be held accountable, and NONE of these Nazi scientists ever were. They just got bigger paychecks.
I’m here because of Amazon’s “Hunters”
True same here 😂
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Emme when is season 2 🥺🥺🥺🥺
His life is crazy. It actually wasn’t “the US army “ who brought him over.
Yes, he was on a list but it was Von Braun’s brother who was sent on a bicycle to approach the Americans because he has the best English. They had already taken all blueprints and research and hid it in an abandoned iron mine.. it was like 14 tons of documents. They didn’t want the SS to destroy it, and the entire team talked about surrendering and who they wanted to surrender to and decided the Americans were their best bet.
Towards the end when all Nazis were vying for power Himmler wanted everything moved to somewhere where he would have control and was trying to consolidate his power on all weapons programs. Apparently Von Braun said the “war was already over “ and someone snitched him out and he was arrested and held for 2 weeks without charge before Albert Speer got Hitler to release him and declare him untouchable because he was indispensable.
I don’t think he cared either way and was apolitical.
" The V2 Rocket funktioned perfectly, it just landed the wrong Planet" ;
"The same forces of nature that enable us to fly to the stars also enable us to destroy them"
Wernher Magnus Maximilian Freiherr von Braun
I suppose you could say that Einstein did the same thing. But in the end he regretted inventing E=MC2, saying that "he wishes he would have become an accountant."
He was a Nazi tho… you do realise…? And he achieved a lot via the use slaves and test subjects etc.
Gotta be fucked in tbe head to have any respect for this guy… wow cos he made and rocket and went to the moon. The moon is worthless.
Why was there no mention of the fact that there was a nation-wide hysteria over Soviet missile technology in the late fifties and early sixties? Huge numbers of people were treated for anxiety disorders over the threat of nuclear war. People in this country have the memory of goldfish.
Goldfish. I gotta remember that one for my wife.
He was a Major in the SS
Himmler funded the German rocket program, ergo it fell under SS oversight. Wernher von Braun was only photographed once in a Nazi uniform and that was when Himmler visited Peenemunde. Had he not acted like the good little Nazi, Himmler would have questioned his loyalty and his life might have become endangered. Himmler did not care how brilliant you were, unless you towed the NDSP line, you would probably have at the least been imprisoned or shot. Himmler would have put a potato peeler in charge and told Hitler he was a brilliant rocket scientist and a good little Nazi.
Sweet!
btw towed v. toed the line... czech it out.
Skywalker7897 justifying von Braun’s Nazi membership? Lol ....priceless.
@@dylp420 I will degrade Von Braun when you take on the Funktionshäftling and capos in the camps, who were hundreds of times more violent than Von Braun who just wanted to launch his rocket. After the war Von Braun was asked what he thought of the
V-2 program and he said right altitude wrong planet.
Skywalker7897 I just feel like everyone saw what was coming. And could have left.
Yes he created the v2 rockets
No, he is not even the real father of the V2 rocket, the real father of the V2 rocket was an engineer by the name of Schröder.
@@pascalxavier3367 Proof?
If it wasn't for Von Braun, the US would never have landed on the moon. Ever. Not in 1969, not in 1979, not in 2019
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You still think the US went to moon? You have no love for truth.
@@toddboboz7894 you apparently can't even learn history, so look at your second statement again. It applies to you. It isn't opinion that the US went to the Moon. It is cold, hard fact.
Israeli propaganda
@@toddboboz7894 Yes we did go to the moon. The soviets would have never let us get away with a fake claim as a moon landing.
Wernher von Braun was a true Visionary and a hero of Science. 🇺🇸🇩🇪🇺🇸🇩🇪
I'm here because of joe rogan.
Everyone armchairs about how "they would have resisted the Nazis and other tyrannies from their couch if they lived in Germany back then", but as a professor pointed out, there is a 99%+ chance that had you been born in Germany back then, under those conditions you would have either join the Nazi Party or look away & ignore what they were doing, actual resistance would be extremely rare. Von Braun actually was arrested by the Gestapo for making what they considered a non patriotic statement about really just wanting to go to space, not wanting to fight a war.
True. It's easy to have perfect retrospection. But putting yourself in their position and thinking about it from the people, the culture, and the times, and then ask what you'd really do if placed in that position yourself.
Or removing Nazis and the baggage and strong feelings that come with it, what if a political movement took over your country today, and speaking out against it meant imprisonment or death, and as long as you signed a paper saying you were a member of the party they'd leave you alone. Would you sign? Would you join? Or would you get sent to jail? Or lose your job? Or get pulled out of bed in the middle of the night and shot in the head? Maybe you could get away with not participating, and then just get cultural ostracism as a reward. But if you actually spoke out against it you'd likely get jailed or killed.
@@andmicbro1 True, and it was not always about oneself, it was also about family & keeping them out of prison, fed and a roof over their heads. Germany was one of the more educated, free thinking nations when the Nazis seized power, but dire economics, a demagogue can change everything. We rationalize things. Right now China has actual concentration camps where they are sterilizing minorities and imprisoning dissidents, but the U.S. and these enlightened nations in Europe cannot wait to sign more trade deals with them in order to harvest cheap labor abroad, we are not even batting an eye.
He eventually then started hanging the 5 slowest Jews outside his rocket factory everyday
@Leo Mate it’s actually a fact he ran a rocket factory in Berlin and would hang the 5 slowest workers and the workers were slaves which ended up to be Jews. Maybe pick up a book and read once and a while?
@Leo Mate someone’s a little angry eh 😂 calm down nazi defender it’s okay life continues
he was the go-to man on real rocket technology
He was not sent to redstone in hsv ( my home town) he chose to set up his program here. Our mountains reminded him of Bavaria plus our water ways made for easy transport . He was visiting redstone arsenal and decided to set up here . I live about 5 miles from his old house . He built this city and gave the U.S. control of space . To say he " worked for NASA " is an insult to the man . He built and fathered NASA.
@@chaist94 I set here as we speak my friend no where else id rather be
@@chaist94 if you haven't been here in 30 yrs you have much much more to see then Grissom. It's nice by the way makes the park way hell in the morning lol . You wouldn't recognize Madison and the surrounding areas they have all blown up too its like one big town from the state line to the river .
You should insult a mass murderer who willingly supported Hitler and his regime, the men should have been killed immideatly
@@Noah-ry1eu what is with your obsession with him lmao
@@Noah-ry1eu Noone has accused him of Mass murder.
My great uncle worked for NASA in Huntsville and knew van braun. I've heard stories that are just mind blowing from him.
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@@ThePanshow10 well they talked about many things of the nazi years and how things were there and their technology, but the one thing that stuck with me and what he told me with a straight face and never went back on the story was him and Wernher were taking lunch one day and there were 3 people total in the room and my uncle ask him "are aliens real?" And wernher looked at my great uncle and said "how do you think we've come so far?" And looked back down at his newspaper and kept reading. Now everyone has told a few lies and fibs in their lifetime, but I've never known of him to be a big liar and he wouldnt tell stories unless he was asked about them. I'm just taking his word because he is family and I trust him. I've seen pictures of them working together and I know my uncle worked for NASA so why would he say such a thing? Just doesn't add up
I believe him. I remember hearing that when someone asked him how they did it he said "we had help from them" (or something to that nature) & nodded his head upwards.
Actually they weren't/aren't aliens. They are the Nephilim, fallen angels. And yes our government and other countries have received help from them. But I wonder what they wanted for their knowledge? 🤔
@@kathyj6070 I'm with you, but I call them aliens because that's how everyone else knows them by. Your soul, or a soul shall I say. That's what you have to give up for it.
You over did it. He had no choice! Like most of Germans.
While he was close to execution for defying Nazi leadership he could've certainly done more.. and most likely die in the aftermath.
Von Braun was an opportunistic engineer, who happened to be born in the "wrong" country. If he'd been born in the UK or the U.S. he would've most likely achieved the same while not having to survive a fascist regime. But certainly hes a bad guy for not getting killed by the Nazis.
If you had to choose from your government to kill innocent civilians with weapons of mass destruction, what would you have done?
@@TruthSeekersChannel If one has the ability to develop a weapon which is both very bad at killing people while also being grounbreaking in its design, it could be even considered immoral to not do so. The V2 was a very inefficient weapon, would the effort to construct them been used for any other weapon, more people would've died.
@@MrPobanz The ability to develop a weapon we all have. To do so is a crime against humanity! There are no excuse in mass murdering innocent people. They fired more than 5000 v2 rockets with the only goal to kill as much as possible children, women and innocent civilians. No excuse or groundbreaking or whatever, make a groundbreaking machine that help nature and serve mankind not kill mankind. A weapon is a weapon, made to kill.
Exactly !
He didn’t even like Hitler and barely wore the Nazi uniform. Nor was he involved political activity. He turned a blind eye to mistreatment he saw, but as you said he felt powerless to stop it. He’s words not mine. He did note the horrible repulsive work conditions, but he did not know slave labor was being used from what I read.
Nope, SS Sturmbandfuhrer von Braun knows really well what happened at Mittelbau Dora.
yeah, the nazis had put a man on the moon, and America had paid the bill.
The SS give him a honory rank.But he was never realy a SS Member.
Funny how guards and other SS officers were executed after offering the defense "I was powerless to stop it, and if I had tried to stop it, I might have been one of the ones executed," and that's exactly what's said here at the conclusion, as if we're supposed to just shrug his involvement off. I guess if you know rockets well enough, then killing a bunch of poor bastards is okay. I'd strip his name off the VB civic center in Huntsville. He's former SS... How many other SS personnel are lauded with landmarks? Anyone travel down Himmler Highway lately? Been to Goebbels Downs? Hitlerville? How 'bout the Reinhard Heydrich Museum of Art? People involved in the space program are blinded by their appreciation of his contribution. No one wants to truly own up to the fact that he used slave labor... much of which died on his watch due to abuse and starvation.
His Country was destroyed by the Allies,yet he came to America and He was a Good citizen of America, Forgiveness is the work of God. Press on with Pride!
he became a great citizen who LOVED American and loved being an American. He didn't take our freedoms for granted like many who are born here do. -- Jack Tueller talks about the sentiments that famous engineer, Werner von Braun, shared with him about how amazing it is to be an American. th-cam.com/video/ODAt_UytX0I/w-d-xo.html
Uncle A did nothing wrong.
You mean the USA that had racial segregation laws and that was majority European at the time? lmao.
So a Nazi who built rockets who killed our allies got us to the moon?
You just found that out now? Old news... and yes, welcome to the Western world. The same world that's filled with ignorance and hypocrisy, yet they hired Nazis to work with them (looking at the US)🤷♂️. As long as they are great assets to the country, their past will be covered. That's the only message from this whole thing. It's still the same today, and will never change. Sad but true.
He was a German but coerced into joining the Nazi party. He never sought out membership in the Nazi party....he never held Nazi ideologies, his relatives were members of the former democratic Weimar government which was ousted by Hitler's Nazis. His rocketry program was started years before the Nazis came into power
Why paperclip
I hope he didn’t got cancer by CIA after he completed the atlas missiles..
Stop saying 'Brown'!!!
"Brown"! Stop criticizing my English accent! Stop not calling it 'Vichita' Auf Deutsch es heißt 'Vichita'!
brown is how it's pronounced
@@TonyBraun the guy's from alabama. i would not be at all surprised if it's pronounced "brown" in alabama.
@@chaist94 pronounced 'brown' by Germans.....means 'brown' in German.
@@jameshudson169 the Guy is from Nazi Germany dumbass
I have a relative who lived in a communist country. He was told if he wanted to keep his job he had to join the communist, so he joined. He was a card carrying communist party member.....but he hated communism
Wernher von Braun saved my grandmother and if he wouldn’t have been there I don’t know if my grandmother would have survived. He wasn’t a bad guy. He only stuck in this dictatorship he couldn’t run away from.
Sorry. Maybe thats true, but he was a very opportunistic person. He loved to play the major role in the german rocket program and had absolute no problems to switch into the US program. Being Hitler´s darling and becoming an American hero.
He didn't just love"to play the major role in German rocketry....he created the program.
As far as Von Braun being Hitler's darling... for most of his reign Hitler gave little support to Von Braun's rocketry program.... thinking his ideas were impractical and foolish. Hitler preferred to build fighter planes and bombers. If Hitler had fully supported von Braun a few years earlier the outcome of the war may have been very different. It was as a result of Hitler's lack of insight into Von Braun's genius and practical applications of his work for war that caused his demise.
lovely man ...shame about the nazi past...
Yes, he was
Werner had no choice in the Third Reich- do or die. He embraced his new life in America, and ultimately became one of America's greatest heros. This video is misleading- Von Braun is celebrated as much as his astronaut peers; for which his mighty Saturn V was crucial in getting men to the moon and back safely- of which it did without fail every time it was launched. Still to this day it's the most powerful machine mankind has ever built.
Von Braun created the space program, the US funded his plans, the astronauts were the passengers. Von Braun was the crucial and most important ingredient. There was only one Von Braun.....there were many astronauts to choose from....any of whom could have gone on any of the missions. There was an astronaut training program to which many applied to fill the role of astronaut.....on the other hand there was no program to replace Von Braun's rocketry genius.... because such a program would not have been possible.
I like the clarity of the video... One thing though: Americans (and Wernher) already lost 3+ times to Russians before the race to the moon started. (First artificial satellite, first living being in space - ❤ Laika, first human in space, first spacecraft to reach lunar surface, first images of the far side of the Moon...). Would Sergei Pavlovich Korolev not die prematurely they might have been the first to land humans as well. And yes Korolev was Russian not Nazi (though Russians had their Paperclip as well) ;)
the first man made object that ever left the earth's atmosphere after 4 billion year of things only falling down on this planet was a V2-rocket on 20th June 1944 started from Peenemünde on the coast of the Baltic sea.
The first American rockets as well as the first Soviet ones were based on the Nazi's V2. Even the first Chinese rockets were clones of the V2, since they copied from the Soviets.
Sergei Pavlovich Korolev was good at logistics but not space craft building,
i was not nazist, he just executed orders, like many others. He was told to research for missiles for people to die and he did. What is so bad about it?
Idiot!
He got along with JFK but when Nixon came into power he quit working for NASA
He birthed NASA and sent Armstrong to moon. Period.
these "Werner Von Braun is a Nazi" gets uploaded every few years . . . that picture of Wernver Von Braun is worthless; he's not even in a Nazi uniform when he took that picture with Hitler at the bottom. Werner Von Braun had to be coerced into wearing a Nazi uniform, and he only wore it(later on, once again, in csse you've already forgottern the above) when Hitler came. Wernver Von Braun choose America over the Soviets when the war ended. If he was a communist and anti-Jew, he would have chosen the Soviets.
he was against communism and very was very willing to help the US beat Russia in the space race and the cold war. and he also was not a racist or bigot being he fully believed before man could ever explore the universe and live together on mars we had better learn how to live with our fellow man and women. white, black, brown, yellow here on earth first or else we would be doomed to failure trying to expand out and have colonies on the moon or mars. and im sure if there was any Jewish talent whos minds could help get mankind to space, NASA was an equal opportunity employer. and he would be happy to have anyone who was the best of what they did no matter what their origins were.
What are you talking about?
If he was anti Jew he wouldn't have went to the USSR, they represented everything Germany fought against, represented for the most part an international Jewish state.
I don't care what you call him, he is in my eyes a worthless mass murderer, and the American army should be punished for their crimes of harbouring one of the biggest mass murderer in history!! Go shove your rockets in the place where the sun don't shine cowboy!
Except for the part where Von Braun hung the 5 slowest Jews outside his V2 rocket factory. If he was alive today he would be tried and convicted of war crimes....
@@FancyAnimal If he had done that, it would have been known then, and he wouldn't have been hung in the whichamacallit trials. This is bullshit started by some nameless person trying to smear Werner Von Braun.
obviously doesn't know why the program was called Operation Paperclip
Didnt he hang the slowest working jews at his rocket factory in Germany or was that someone else
When i was growing up in Madison County in the '60s we had actual pictures of the rockets being tested and launched. They were framed, 8x10's hanging on the walls of our Den. Granted I was just a kid, but I don't remember anyone at my house saying anything bad about him. We were taught to be proud of those rockets.
Swastika YA Hammer & Sickel NYET!
Well one reason why anyone who ever worked with or knew him never said anything bad about him was cause there is nothing bad anyone who knew him could have to say about him. He was a very great man and was the world's most brilliant engineer. and he loved being an American.
@@chaist94so he is a nice Nazi? Everything is ok then guys. Nothing to see here.
I think he was a brilliant man caught in the wrong time in history.
Ok before you try to tell this man's story can you at least pronounce his name correctly... bitte
The most logic things you can hear from smart people with short memory. If US wouldn't kidnapped Braun the Russian would. Then how come Russian made it same style same way same years without Braun?
USA got the scientists, Soviets got scientists and the equipment. Search for Operation OSOAVIAKHIM.
So what! He left it.
He killed 3000 with his missle and many more with slave labor
Did you just call it the ‘B-2’ rocket?
In my reserach for my thesis on this very topic, it turns out Von Braun was threatened with his family being sent to the camps if he didn't go along...so..
Von Braun did nothing wrong
Except helping design and develop (through slave labour) the then state of the art V-2 rocket, and then of course joining the SS and becoming a member of the Nazi party...........which just happens to be one of the most terrible, psychopathic, and inhumane parties to ever exist in history. The only reason that he was not sen sentenced to hang by his neck like the rest of his Nazi cronies, was that he was capable of advancing the US space programme and certainly not least help develop a eventually head the US Army Ballistic Missile Agency. If anything Von Braun was a filthy coward who immediately jumped ship when the going got tough, and sold of all his Nazi funded knowledge and experience in exchange for his neck and plenty of US Dollars.
@@_J.F_ but thats not his department and if you read a biography, wernher was interested in space exploration and being a pioneer, him bein a young rocket pioneer leader in germany, the nazi party was interested in him, they asked him to join and he had no other choice, he needed too continue his dream of exploring space.
@@_J.F_ imagine if he refused to join? How would the nazi see of that??
@@_J.F_ You can't just assume all members of the Nazi party and the SS actually were Nazis. Because a lot of people were forced to join.
Who Am I? You cannot assume that all drug traffickers are in favour of illegal and dangerous drugs either - they could be forced to do the job - but that still doesn’t make them lovable people does it?! If you spend close to a decade serving the Nazi movement, and the SS, and have no issues with exploiting forced labour in your everyday life, you become just as bad as the people you work for. Von Braun did not protest to any of it as it suited his personal agenda fine, and when the Nazis lost he swiftly swapped sides to serve the USA. Many other scientists, businessmen, researchers etc. fled the Nazi regime rather than joining it. Many of them offered their skills to the allied when the war started, instead of putting their knowledge into the Nazi war machine. Von Braun, however, only changed sides when the Nazis had lost the war, so don’t try make it sound as if he was hating every minute of being an important Nazi.
Netflix "Camp Confidential"
Wernhers' gravestone
Psalm 19:1
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
I love how these historical debates about whether a person was bad or good never really include the opportunity for redemption. Imagine living your entire life and never make a mistake. Imagine living your entire life without ever feeling any regret. Or ever feeling like wow maybe I might have done that better if I made a different choice. I don't know who those people are but I sure wish that they would stop making content and stop airing their opinions or rather I wish they would continue to air their opinions I wish that less people would listen to those opinions and give them credit
I am willing to forgive most people if they made a mistake, not if that mistake was being a card carrying nazis who used slave labor.
Yap, good summary.
Boi the Nazis First invented the Ufo Like Planes thats why the American wanted hin and His knowledge...because then the American can build them themselves thats how Life works
yur looking at major problems,,
I mean didn’t he have to do it? Is he any worse than the soldier’s
Check out his gravestone
He never apologized. He never took any responsibility. He justified it under the guise of, “I was just following orders” which btw soldiers have the right to deny orders if they were illegal or immoral. And a lot soldiers did refuse to take part. So you can’t hold people to different standards. If others had the where with all to stand their ground and were not punished for not partaking in genocide the others could have to. The grand total of soldiers who were killed for disobeying orders......... 0. Literally 0. Not one soldier was murdered for refusing to partake in the death camps/slave camps or any of the cruel stuff. Also the SS was something you had to sign up, volunteer for, or ask to be recruited. So when people say, “they had to follow orders or they would be killed” is just a flat out lie. A lie that people bought in to. He could have tried to stop it or at the very least not taken part and nothing would’ve happened to him.. and yet he still purposely did nothing. Furthermore he maintained a snotty attitude as if his desire to build rockets was so important that the regime was irrelevant. Couple people on the moon...6 million dead. He put his ambition before the lives of 6 million people.
thank god-somebody with some fucking sense and not a nazi sympathiser
He was forced to "be a Nazi," on threat of losing his work on rockets, and tacit threat of being sent to a labour camp. Or worse.
He's like one of the bosses on medal of honour Europe WW2,but then America needed the rockets and space program, frenemy.
Once the rockets are up, who cares where they come down
"That's not my department!", says Wernher von Braun
I'm just happy we got him instead of Russia...This guy was very important to out history and I watched a doc where he was instrumental in helping with desegregating efforts in Huntsville, AL....He didn't want to live in a community where people were treated like that...Whether its true or not, I have no idea but why would I doubt it.?.? it definitely seems obvious that he viewed himself as an American and was darn proud to be one....He was in the most difficult of situations and in order to build his rockets he needed funding and that came from the party in power at the time...Einstein could have very well found himself in the same precarious situation had he not been Jewish and wisely fled......End of day, our Country was lucky to have him embrace our Country and thank God he did...It sucks that many of his rockets killed many good people on the orders of Hitler--not Werner, Hitler--he only built the transportation for was a genius rocket scientist obviously
You made a great point. What's the documentary you watched on him?
It’s not as if he had a choice. The us govt forced him to come here
He had no qualms about using slave labour to build his rockets, he certainly was a Nazi, he was a brilliant mind, but so were many other top scientists and engineers in Germany at the time. He was a monster, history has seen his deeds.
First things first. I have heard his name more the Neil arm strong
Dammit, now I'm forever going to think, "the Saturn V2"
Did he ever apologise for the use of slave labour or the deaths of 6000 Londoners?
Never heard of warner von brown
The whole "he's evil because he knew his rockets were being made with slave labor" is silly nonsensical logic. He didn't create the German slave labor program -- the Germans were using slave labor regardless -- if his rockets weren't made with slave labor, those slaves would have been used to make something more useful to the German war effort. The question to ask him was, did he know his V-2 was a huge boondoggle (and thus he was actually indirectly aiding the Allies) without an atomic warhead, or was he of the belief that conventional rockets could help Germany win the war? I suspect he spent the money the Nazis offered because he wanted to work on rockets of any sort, and didn't really care how militarily useful they were.
Yes the Nazis we're engaged to build this Shit Not to win a war or loose IT
Well I'd say you were sort of right about him spending the money the Nazis offered because he wanted to work on rockets of any sort. But to him any rocket that could help him build bigger and bigger ones so that man could go to space and actually all the way to mars was his real goal. and to stay alive being that once he was in the nazis that's like the mob and you do as directed and you produce what they want or failure meant you got killed. But I have to belive space was his real goal being that it was his dream from when he was just a young teen when he even convinced himself that man would walk on the moon in his lifetime and it would be HIM that got them there. And this was all before the nazis discovered him as an amateur rocket pioneer. long before the war when Germany was trying to build up its arms but had that pesky Treaty of Versailles restricting what Germany could have. and rockets were not a banned weapon cause no one was using them to any great effect before the germans. his who life's goal and dream was to go to space and for the betterment of all mankind. first and foremost. and if making weapons was a way to meet that goal or get his foot in the door of a big government program that could fund it. he was game.. he even laughed real hard in his later years when he said when he was 17 he figured it would take lots and lots of money to go to mars.. lol and he thought of a number that was more money then he could comprehend at the time. he thought it would take at least 1 billion dollars. so that's like a kid today trying to picture 1 quadrillion dollars because billons was a huge money figure back then.
@@jjames3793 i dont get all of the things U write but i know that U have knowledge the wolrd war 2 was Just red Herring ..i Hope i get IT right What u Just wrote
Im here because i smoked a joint
Im distracted and annoyed by the music
Wait this is crazy
Nooooooooooooo wrong !
It also does not matter if Von Braun was a Nazi when your one of the most intelligent humans in the world that can build rockets to go to space you become one of the most wanted people to anyone. I personally think that the US would not of been able to go into space without Von Braun. We also have nuclear missiles that can destroy the whole world because of Von Brauns work.
He kind of looks like David Hasselhoff
thats his grandpa
why didn't he flee??
Why? Life in Germany was never better under Hitler and the nazi's. We defeated the wrong people, our loving brothers the germans. The real war crimes were committed by Eisenhower, Stalin, and Churchill if you care at all about the truth!
He did flee in a way, he mainly wanted to build rockets for space and at the time Germany, where he already lived, showed the most interest. he worked on rockets in Germany until late war, when he sent his brother (also on the rocket team) to go and find the Americans (Wernher couldn't because he broke his arm). his brother rode his bike and found the Americans, he then went back to get Wernher and the crew. they then surrendered to the us and you can actually find photos of him with American troops while his arm is in a cast.
And something no one mentions is the fact that he didn't want his rockets to be weaponized. this may sound unimportant but he never gave permission for the rockets to be weaponized.
because he was a Nazi
Where was he supposed to go?
His dream was to build large liquid-fueled rockets. Who in the 1930s was doing that with any serious funding? ....In America, Robert Goddard was regarded as a joke -- as a krank. The CalTech team of Frank Malina, et al. was also seriously underfunded; and all they had was that wimpy WAC Corporal by the end of the war. "Rockets" were in such disrepute in America and Britain, that when the CalTech crew made rockets for assisted take off of overweight aircraft, the military insisted that they be called, "JATO -- JET Assisted Take Off" rather than the more logically named ROCKET-Assisted Take Off (or RATO).
Von Braun did what almost all Germans did: He looked the other way -- he looked down at his task without looking left or right. The ONE time he made a comment regarding the course Germany was taking in World War II, he was reported to the authorities by a woman who attended the drinking party he was at. He was arrested, and not freed until others reminded the authorities of his importance to the weapons programs.
RIP. A victim of circumstance. When life gives you lemons, you make lemonade.
lemonade tastes extra sweet when you you add a little sweat from the slave labours your career was built off...yummy
There is no such thing as a “former” Nazi.
I mean, there is...
As some one who was born and raised in Huntsville it bothers me that you pronounce his last name “brown”. It’s pronounced “brawn”
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We needed cellphone that much.
He was a german National Socialist GENIUS and a HERO to americans!!!
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Ugh, you butchered the pronunciation.
Eddie Bravo
Timothy Corrick operation blue beam
Hey look, typical youtube comments blaming the Jews as usual.
Great video
let me assume you are a jew
someone is triggered
That explains all the pointy white hats in Alabama! lmao
Enslaved people built his rockets with their bare hands in Germany during WWII. Fact.
Most people do not know that Van Braun was an honorary colonel in the ss......also...it may be true that latter in his life, he may have become a born-again christian
It's far to easy to look back, with full 20/20 hindsight and pass judgement. However, most people who pass judgement, probably would have done just the same, had they been in that position, themselves. Everyone likes to think of themselves as a hero type figure, but in all reality, most wouldn't live up to that vision. We forget that self-preservation is hard-coded in our DNA and as a result, we quickly adapt to the social norms and pressures. Those w/ highly ambitious goals are more likely to conform, as a means of not only ensuring survival of themselves, but the survival of those goals and aspirations.
Unfortunately, for those who many not like it, if Wernher Von Braun had chosen not to fall in line and play the game, the moon still might be unexplored today. I probably wouldn't even be typing this message now, as I would have likely never seen this video, since most of the technology we enjoy today, was developed as a direct result of WWII & the Cold War (including the space race), etc.
Honestly everything you said is right but I feel it's not him who is the worry. All judgement aside yea but its no secret the Nazis had geniuses. But how did a group of them do what they did and also create a genocide?
@@alecmanz3596 If you're looking for the origin of what would ultimately evolve into the mass genocide, we know as the Holocaust, you need to look no further than the Eugenics movement, originating in the late 19th century. Unfortunately, the ideas and experiments that would inspire the Nazis originated in the United States, w/ the first of two major social experiments (the second being the Holocaust), being put into practice, within the United States, in the early 20th century. By law, United States citizens, thought to be hereditarilly impure were routinely sterilized against their will and sometimes without their knowledge (children would grow up to find out that their parents had declared them mentally feeble, allowing their physician to lawfully perform a surgical sterilization procedure).
There were actually talks, regarding the use of Euthanasia, on the genetically impure and the feeble minded, w/ gas chambers being the primary method of disposal.
If you're interested, I suggest checking out the PBS "American Experience" documentary, titled "The Eugenics Crusade", which you can find a link to, below. Otherwise, Wikipedia has a rather informative article, regarding the Eugenics movement, in the United States, which I will also provide the link to, below.
PBS American Expereince: The Eugenics Crusade: th-cam.com/video/GabYIm7h1lw/w-d-xo.html
Wikipedia: Eugenics in the United States: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics_in_the_United_States
I agree with the self preservation concept as you described. Obviously he proved that by agreeing to join us without any hassle immediately after the Nazis were defeated. He was spared again by coming to work for us (the enemy). Nazi party, Southern Democrat...didn't matter as long as he and his family were safe and he was building rockets.
Grant Lolley Exactly! So what if he was a National Socialist. It’s not like he was committing major war crimes or ordering executions, etc. The truth of the matter is, that the United States would never had won the “Space Race”, if it weren’t tor him. Secondly, this story says more for the USA, than it does for him, being that they still chose to take him in, knowing his past. In all honesty, even if he was involved in war crimes, it’s not like the US would have denied him and his skills. The US would have had no moral or ethical qualms, in regards to simply covering them up, anyways.
@@Mattipedersen That's true. I believe that the Nuremburg trials brought the evil ones to justice that should have been. He had a dream of building space rockets. After he began to work in that field, the Nazis came to power. He and every other industry were absorbed by the party. We (USA) also would have never condemned Ferdinand Porsche and the industrial powerhouse that would help rebuild the German infrastructure after the war.
What's with the happy Jewish music being played with pictures of concentration camps?
PSALMS 19:1
S NAPHTALI what does this mean I’m confused
But do you know who is celebrated? The guys with the balls big enough to actually ride those rockets into outer space.
Werner vonBrunn was not a Nazi Party member, von Braun, sorri pur diesen teilSchlimm buechstaebische, miteinander! him was not! they may might have give him cerifys and even convince him that he hads such status?! ask Werner,,
well? most Nazi Partei members weren't "racist" in the way most folx think about that term "racist"
Imagine cooking your neighbors kids and discarding their bones in your backyard. Then the police coming to your door asking you for your recipe and offering you a head chef job for their policemens ball...
I know Von Braun is a hero in the aerospace field and at Nasa , But the Building of the V-2 was constructed with human slaves and there's lots of pictures of Von Braun touring the V-2 Manufacturing sites. I can't help but remember him as being complicit in the evils of the Nazi empire .
so what and what's your point?? what does that have to do with anything?? All weapons programs and war cost lives and many of them. and we used prisoners as labor also. just like everyone else did and even today still do.
Why didn't he stop it? People who ask these questions do it from luxury and ignorance of living in the US, where you aren't imprisoned or shot for standing up to the government.
He could come and go as he pleased.he was in this for years before coming to the us. He wasn't trapped. Stop trying to make us feel bad for the Nazi.
@@c.l.1820 You have no idea what you're talking about. You've never lived in a totalitarian regime, and clearly never spoken to someone who has. You'd like to think that if you lived in Nazi Germany you would have stood up for the Jews, but if you're like most people, you would have been cowed.
If you lived in the 1800's you'd like to think you'd have opposed slavery, but most likely you'd have stood by and thought nothing of it, benefitting from the labor of others.
You have the luxury of NOT living in those times and the luxury of being indignant of over moral injustices people already gave their lives to end.
It's easy to denounce evil from a distance, where it can't harm you. Are you willing to go to the Middle East and stand up to Islamist extremists who throw homosexuals off of roofs to their deaths, and beat women for having the audacity to tempt men to rape them, knowing that by doing so you might have your head cut off?
Yeah, I didn't think so.
Nobody went to the moon
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Isn't ww2 great for americans? Every god damn genius ran away to America.
.You don't have a choice.
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Short answer: YES. He left Germany once the Nazis lost, but he was a Nazi.
,EX-Nazi‘!!
Member of the Nazi-Party but never a convinced Nazi. He even was arrested by the Gestapo because he did not came along with the Nazi Ideology.
@@GeneralCurtisELeMay-wh5gh а Гитлер освободил его.Гитлер хороший -гестапо плохое.В книге "Человек в высоком замке" сказано, что гестапо отменили в 1947 году.Похоже, эту организацию даже сами нацисты не любили.
I couldn’t get past the narrator saying “brown” instead of Braun.... I’m guessing sobolewski picked the soundtrack too lol.
That’s how you pronounce “Braun” in German, so the narrator is correct.
it's pronounced brown in German....it means brown in German.
John Doe I’m afraid you’re wrong, my friend. As someone who’s taken German classes, I can absolutely assure you that the narrator’s pronunciation is correct.
Let us go down and confuse thier language
So this was real ?
Operation Paperclip
Armenian genocide?
For once, a pretty 'apolitical' view on the subject. For sure he was a member, for sure he was aware of what was happening at the Dora factory (managed by the SS), but I doubt anyone (amongst the scientists) could have prevented or stopped the crimes at Dora, not even Von Braun's manager, Gen. Dornberger.
Most influential people in Germany in the late 30's were more or less forced into the nazi party... and those who refused had to face serious (if not fatal) consequences, this did also apply to their families...
But this has to be contextualised a bit... the word 'nazi' didn't mean anything particularly horrifying at the time, it just stood for "national socialism", and while the SA/SS had already committed some serious crimes before WWII actually began, there was no conscience yet of the scale of what was to come, it's ridiculous to judge those people with today's knowledge !
i smell an historians fallacy. what makes you think they didint know any better?
@@XBLspartanx170 because I live very close to Germany, and have family on both sides of the border... my grand-parents were pretty much torn apart during the war, having close relatives on both sides (those regions were made German during the war, and went back to their original country thereafter, pretty confusing for the people there, who where seen as Germans after the war), and I spent quite some time and energy to collect their stories (in the whole family). There were some camps in Germany before the war, but this was rather kept confidential, things started to become really messy during the war, and in particular when things started to go wrong for the Germans, somewhere between 42 and 43... Talking about Dora, V2 production was not even possible before 43-44 (not ready), and was moved from Peenemünde after a heavy bombing by the RAF in august 43, so it's not like Von Braun & Co knew about Dora when they became member of the party... and even at Peenemünde, there had been nothing comparable to what happened in Dora afterwards... :(
Now, don't get me wrong, near the end of the war (43 onwards), the awareness of these crimes had increased enormously, despite what many Germans pretended... but there was not much to be done at that point.