This is exactly why we need to go back to a point system like before. Maybe not exactly the same, I believe a combination of both would be perfect. Points the whole season then the playoff system stays the same. That way at least people don't get lucky and just win one race and get into the playoffs..
@@ronhill1563 ok so in that theory, Joey L. was in Austin D. Racing line so he moved him out of it. Smh. Hamlin came up the track, Dillion stayed his line.
I agree with fines and points and suspension not maybe that much. Let him keep the win hes not going to make it past 1st round anyway. My worry is other drivers who need a win badly and dont care will do the same thing the next 3 races
I say points and fines are good enough. Then Nascar makes a hard statement that going forward this kind of racing for the win won't be tolerated and may lead to suspensions. Just treat it like how they treated the Chastain Wall ride it gave them publicity and they then changed the rule to make it illegal and they could do something similar in this scenario going forward.
I`ve seen Lagano do some questionable things to win a race.He might have taken people out with a little more finesse but he shouldn`t complain too hard. It looks like the Hamlin wreck was a momentary lapse and not as bad actually. Dillion was going pretty fast all day coming out of the turn and a lot of drivers would have done the same thing.
It’s crazy how Denny lives rent free in y’all’s heads. It’s like you can’t think about any thing else. The sad part is the hate you hold in your heart you can’t even see the difference between any thing Denny has ever done and this. I can also promise you Denny has never done anything like that I would love an example and if you chase at martinsville you are a wrong simple as that. But I do believe any time Denny even sniffs Larson tail y’all demand a penalty so at least be consistent with your wrong takes🙄
at 2:32:29 Austin Dillions tire changer CLEARLY lost control on right front tire and it CROSSED THE LINE of his pit box by a LARGE MARGIN as the announcers stumbled on their words and the cameraman, who had PERFECT POSITIONING TO CLEARLY SEE THE INFRACTION THAT HAS COST SOOOO MANY TEAMS SOOO VERY MUCH bailed out on the shot as quick as he could. If that doesnt just SCREAM that the FIX WAS ON…i dont know..
2010 Call Edwards hooked Brad Keselowski to win a race. I believe last lap last corner to coming to the flag you do what it takes to win. Now if it just a retaliation thing just to take someone out is different, yes a penalty is warranted then.
He didn't just dump someone tho, he ran into the back end of someone after running off into the corner way too hard and after realizing he was going to get beat my Hamlin on the bottom he hooks back down to take him out. NOTHING about that was normal, if nothing is done about it this is just gonna get worse
What old style race car you talking about. I've been watching races since I was a child which has been a long time ago and I've seen this same scenario at least once every year and maybe more
This blatant though? Plus, in the distant past you would have gotten jumped after the race - and I'm not sure your own crew would have defended you in this case.
🙄 okay guy you better have the same attitude when Larson runs a guy into a wall and gets wrecked because that seems to happen a lot but I’m sure we won’t hear a peep out of you unless it’s to penalize anyone who even looks at Larson wrong. And it doesn’t even matter if Denny was driving up the track 1/3 of a car lane Denny was in the lead and Austin should have followed him up. But look Austin is out of the play offs got 0 points and just looks like a spoiled brat to actual nascar fans not just hendrick D riders.
There needs to be a change now! I know there has been situations like this before from Dale Sr and others but it does not make it a right. The rest of the season could be very crazy if they don’t do something now. I feel Dillon is a dirty driver. They also need to do with the person saying to wreck him.
If i was Austin I'd be pissed,i can understand why sooner or later why nascar has to do something, but joey ran over William Byron to win a race, but i think them saying that he cant use it to get in the championship is wrong,and finan joey 50,000 dollars for going crazy on pit road, and maybe running over people and killing them is a slap in the face. He should have had to miss a race.if im Richard Childers im getting my lawyers and im appealing this,all they did was make an example out of Austin and let 2 cry babies get away with it .nascar you've done it again, you screwed up,Austin you got screwed.
Look listen I need to say this I think NASCAR should stay out of it no fines at all I think the bump and run with Joey is fine and fire. Joey would’ve done the same thing now we come down to Austin and Danny, which I’m not a fan of either one of them, I think they was both run that lines and was committed from what I see. Danny was ahead and he had his line he got hooked, but I don’t think Austin hooked him from spectator from television. That’s all I have to say. I hope NASCAR makes the best decision that I can from the information that they have and they’re probably gonnabecome Idio, but it is what it is. I’ll accept it. It was a great race as a great finish. I enjoyed it.
I've always liked Joey alright; he is a little dirtier than I care for, but nothing like Denny or Kyle Bush, but Joey has been on the wrong end of these deals plenty, but Austin did nothing either of these two would have done, I know that because they have, multiple times.
I’ve watched ,”Laguano” and,”Hamlet” pull this type driving all the way back to Ontario years ago when Laguano dumps Hamlet and breaks his back. They haven’t changed except to develop a justification dialogue…”yuk-yuk-yuk, that’s racing”. I’ve also sadly watched this type of racing behavior expand at local tracks. Now when the two biggest hypocrites in NASCAR are on the receiving end people are talking about how bad this is!! I’m down to watching about 1/2 of NASCAR because of the BS and lack of real class racing. If they come down on Austin and just slap Laguano’s wrist for his after race dangerous antics…so long NASCAR hello more dirt shows…where real racing is happening. Just sayn…
How about we go back to the old cars and old tires. Wheres the investigation on ricky wreckhouse intentionally wrecking the 41. Where is that in car audio.
Wow. What a s***show. Horrendous finish. Ludicrous how many vlaim other drivers have done what Dillon fid AND claim its happened before and it was fine. It wasn Fines, suspensions, fans real unhappy. That wasnt hard racing, bump and run, using some up. It was egregiously bad driving by a driver thats statistically one of worse restarters on grid.
He dumped aimerola for the 500 these rules wernt in place hes wrecked people for 3 of his 5 wins in 20 years he cant win clean he oly knows how to wreck people and the rules dont apply to austin and grandpa
You falter Austin and there's no way you should have ever done that and most drivers and when they accidentally wreck someone they apologized he acted like it was the greatest move in the world and it's ridiculous 90% of the drivers would never do that and it's just a b******* move
@@iankhan4614 I don't know about proud of it. Maybe the move on Joey was an iffy move,but the one on Denny was definitely a desperate and bad move. He got into victory lane one way or the other
@@paulkribbs1701 There is no way that he was going to point his way in. So if you see an opportunity in front of you, you can't be nice. You have to be aggressive. If you have to ram people out of the way, and then deal with the consequences later on, so be it. That was probably Austin's only chance this year to win.
@@iankhan4614 I get it,but you can't just be wrecking anybody all the time to win. Good for Austin n his team. He did what he had to do. There will be payback and this will just get out of control if it hasn't already
@@paulkribbs1701 OK Truex Jr didn't retaliate on Logano after Martinsville 2018. So if they feel like they owe Austin Dillon, that's hogwash. They race people hard, but don't like being race hard back. Double standards.
Saw someone on one of Kenny Wallace’s videos comment they wanted the win taken away, Dillon given a 2 lap penalty and suspended 2 races, the crew chief and spotter for the 3 suspended for the rest of the season, driver and owner docked 100 points, and a combined $250k fine between the driver, crew chief, and the team. They did admit they hate RCR so……
Per past precedents that would be the appropriate punishment. Intent was clear when spotter told him to wreck the 11 and Austin even admitted to intentionally wrecking him in the post race. So that 1 race for that and 1 race for the right hook.
Honestly. Id be cool with the playoff birth heing taken away. That way to win was a joke just because of the right hook. I could care less about the logano part butright hooking into a wall is unacceptable. Plus the SMT even shows the insane steering input austin used.
@@tylerpowers453finally someone with a decent take in these comments. Everyone acting like him dumping TWO people off back to back after he lost the restart is acceptable is baffling to me.
@@jwheezy6999 agreed 1000% remember earlier in loganos career i think it was arco or late model he got a win taken away from him for flat out destroying who he was racing
If any driver can get away with this, it makes NASCAR look like WWE. It might be entertaining, but it's not legit racing - it's just bumper cars at high speed. The playoff format needs adjustment.
Zero times he or the 11 have right hooked anyone for a win. I can't even think of a time when the 22 blatantly over drove the corner just to clean the leader out. Has he used the bump and run or moved people? Yup. Over drove the corner to clean someone out or right hook? Nope. And I can't stand the 11 or 22, so.....
@michaelrodgers994 really? Are nascar drivers politicians now? Totally unaccountable for their actions? Blaming the format when a driver clearly crosses a line is a cop out.
Never. And I know you are gonna say what about this race and what about that race but I don't think in Cup, Joey ever was four to five car lengths back to wreck someone. The closest thing was the Toyota All-star Challenge at Irwindale. And he got DQd all the way back to last place
Dillon held his line. Denny did not. Denny likes to position his car so there is contact to right rear. But he never says a word when he wins with these dirty tactics. His taken several wins from Larson using these tactics J/S
What a victory for Austin Dillon! 🏆
My pick christopher bell ended up 6th after dominating the race at Richmond raceway
High speed NAS bumper CAR😮s
Really?
@@marcusvillarreal Copy & Paste cringe work
@@uncleb7821 thank you
They just need to bring a full season points format back
This is exactly why we need to go back to a point system like before. Maybe not exactly the same, I believe a combination of both would be perfect. Points the whole season then the playoff system stays the same. That way at least people don't get lucky and just win one race and get into the playoffs..
Demolition Derby Dillon finally wins one for grandpa.
Well that’s the definition of “Go for It”, combined with “Checkers or Wreckers …” Exciting, Love it or Hate it… Exciting !!!
Yes Dillon did come down 1/2 a lane but Hamlin was drifting up the track.
Hamlin actually was a tad bit below the racing line to avoid the wreck, you have to go by the racing line not the spot on the track.
@@ronhill1563 ok so in that theory, Joey L. was in Austin D. Racing line so he moved him out of it. Smh. Hamlin came up the track, Dillion stayed his line.
I agree with fines and points and suspension not maybe that much. Let him keep the win hes not going to make it past 1st round anyway. My worry is other drivers who need a win badly and dont care will do the same thing the next 3 races
I say points and fines are good enough. Then Nascar makes a hard statement that going forward this kind of racing for the win won't be tolerated and may lead to suspensions. Just treat it like how they treated the Chastain Wall ride it gave them publicity and they then changed the rule to make it illegal and they could do something similar in this scenario going forward.
That would be awesome Remember, the slogan boys have had it. I’m still waiting regulators NASCAR like the SEC of the American dollar.
I`ve seen Lagano do some questionable things to win a race.He might have taken people out with a little more finesse but he shouldn`t complain too hard. It looks like the Hamlin wreck was a momentary lapse and not as bad actually. Dillion was going pretty fast all day coming out of the turn and a lot of drivers would have done the same thing.
It’s gonna be very interesting to see what happens by Thursday
Joey getting fined 100K for his pit road actions is my guess. Will be the only penalty.
Hey denny u DIDNT BEAT OUR FAVORITE DRIVERS ...u an Joey are quick to forget uh remember how this feels when yall want to wreck folks....😂
It’s crazy how Denny lives rent free in y’all’s heads. It’s like you can’t think about any thing else. The sad part is the hate you hold in your heart you can’t even see the difference between any thing Denny has ever done and this. I can also promise you Denny has never done anything like that I would love an example and if you chase at martinsville you are a wrong simple as that. But I do believe any time Denny even sniffs Larson tail y’all demand a penalty so at least be consistent with your wrong takes🙄
Everything that went down up to the finish and after is all down to nascar. Offloading there responsibility as a sport
at 2:32:29 Austin Dillions tire changer CLEARLY lost control on right front tire and it CROSSED THE LINE of his pit box by a LARGE MARGIN as the announcers stumbled on their words and the cameraman, who had PERFECT POSITIONING TO CLEARLY SEE THE INFRACTION THAT HAS COST SOOOO MANY TEAMS SOOO VERY MUCH bailed out on the shot as quick as he could. If that doesnt just SCREAM that the FIX WAS ON…i dont know..
This will probably be Austin Dillon’s last win. Hopefully I’m wrong
I've been saying this since Sunday
2010 Call Edwards hooked Brad Keselowski to win a race. I believe last lap last corner to coming to the flag you do what it takes to win. Now if it just a retaliation thing just to take someone out is different, yes a penalty is warranted then.
He didn't just dump someone tho, he ran into the back end of someone after running off into the corner way too hard and after realizing he was going to get beat my Hamlin on the bottom he hooks back down to take him out. NOTHING about that was normal, if nothing is done about it this is just gonna get worse
“If I wanna win it’s okay that I’m dirty, if I’m returning dirty to a dirty person, that’s worthy of a penalty” bro what bible were u raised on
Okay now I'm dumb founded, how come no one including drivers said anything when Dale Sr. Use to crash other drivers back in the day
What old style race car you talking about. I've been watching races since I was a child which has been a long time ago and I've seen this same scenario at least once every year and maybe more
This blatant though? Plus, in the distant past you would have gotten jumped after the race - and I'm not sure your own crew would have defended you in this case.
My father told me if I were to pull a stunt like this at out local short track I'd be looking for a car to drive and a ride home
Dillion doesn’t turn left until after Hamlin runs into him! Look at front tires in footage! He turned to keep his car going straight!
🙄 okay guy you better have the same attitude when Larson runs a guy into a wall and gets wrecked because that seems to happen a lot but I’m sure we won’t hear a peep out of you unless it’s to penalize anyone who even looks at Larson wrong. And it doesn’t even matter if Denny was driving up the track 1/3 of a car lane Denny was in the lead and Austin should have followed him up. But look Austin is out of the play offs got 0 points and just looks like a spoiled brat to actual nascar fans not just hendrick D riders.
Smt says otherwise
Isn't harvick the same guy that dumped the field at Talladega when he was out of gas
Make it have to be in top 20 to be in.
Agree, common sense tells me that anyone in the back half of the field is not a playoff contender. So you have one good race or get lucky...
I haven't watched NASCAR since they went to segment racing. Not a fan. Hamlin and Logano have done the same thing.
There needs to be a change now! I know there has been situations like this before from Dale Sr and others but it does not make it a right. The rest of the season could be very crazy if they don’t do something now. I feel Dillon is a dirty driver. They also need to do with the person saying to wreck him.
If i was Austin I'd be pissed,i can understand why sooner or later why nascar has to do something, but joey ran over William Byron to win a race, but i think them saying that he cant use it to get in the championship is wrong,and finan joey 50,000 dollars for going crazy on pit road, and maybe running over people and killing them is a slap in the face. He should have had to miss a race.if im Richard Childers im getting my lawyers and im appealing this,all they did was make an example out of Austin and let 2 cry babies get away with it .nascar you've done it again, you screwed up,Austin you got screwed.
Target should sponsor AD for the rest of the season. 🤔🤣
austin dillion karma my friend no threat to win a championship
My pick christopher bell ended up 6th after dominating the race at Richmond raceway
He was definitely fast, even on pit road
@@davids5006 yeah he was
Guys the world is buzzing. This will be remembered for years. I can’t believe the reach. Lol he’s in the playoffs.
He will be in the playoff's for three races.
🤣
Look listen I need to say this I think NASCAR should stay out of it no fines at all I think the bump and run with Joey is fine and fire. Joey would’ve done the same thing now we come down to Austin and Danny, which I’m not a fan of either one of them, I think they was both run that lines and was committed from what I see. Danny was ahead and he had his line he got hooked, but I don’t think Austin hooked him from spectator from television. That’s all I have to say. I hope NASCAR makes the best decision that I can from the information that they have and they’re probably gonnabecome Idio, but it is what it is. I’ll accept it. It was a great race as a great finish. I enjoyed it.
Austin Dillon is the man.
People love to slam on Austin Dillon, but he did a great job Saturday night.
@iankhan4614 He did what he had to do to get in the playoffs...blame the Format for the banzai moves, just like Chastain at Martinsville.
Joey logano and Denny Hamlin needs to be called the bubble boys if they don't want to have rough racing
Joey logano moved Truex Jr at Martinsville to win in 2018. So they should be OK if it comes back towards them.
Logano is a expert, he should teach Dillon how it's done.
@@WillyK51 He wrecked Denny Hamlin at Auto Club Speedway in 2013.
@@WillyK51 logano wrecked William Byron at Darlington in 2022 to win.
Rough racing is completely different than driving through someone intentionally..
No, no, he didn't bump 'em, he didn't nudge 'em, he didn't rub 'em... He slammed 'em, he and slamming, son, ain't racin !!
Watch out here comes Corey Lajoie into the chase with checkered flag hold my beer wreck at Daytona
I’d fire this guy on the spot for using the name mamba ! Only 1 Mamba and that’s Kobe Bean Bryant !! 2️⃣4️⃣
I've always liked Joey alright; he is a little dirtier than I care for, but nothing like Denny or Kyle Bush, but Joey has been on the wrong end of these deals plenty, but Austin did nothing either of these two would have done, I know that because they have, multiple times.
I’ve watched ,”Laguano” and,”Hamlet” pull this type driving all the way back to Ontario years ago when Laguano dumps Hamlet and breaks his back. They haven’t changed except to develop a justification dialogue…”yuk-yuk-yuk, that’s racing”. I’ve also sadly watched this type of racing behavior expand at local tracks. Now when the two biggest hypocrites in NASCAR are on the receiving end people are talking about how bad this is!! I’m down to watching about 1/2 of NASCAR because of the BS and lack of real class racing. If they come down on Austin and just slap Laguano’s wrist for his after race dangerous antics…so long NASCAR hello more dirt shows…where real racing is happening. Just sayn…
How about we go back to the old cars and old tires.
Wheres the investigation on ricky wreckhouse intentionally wrecking the 41. Where is that in car audio.
NASCAR shouldn’t do anything it’s up to the drivers to hold AD responsible
Earnhardt did it all the time
He won't make the final 4 joey will get him back at the right time 😂 he will get knock out of the play offs
Wow. What a s***show. Horrendous finish. Ludicrous how many vlaim other drivers have done what Dillon fid AND claim its happened before and it was fine. It wasn Fines, suspensions, fans real unhappy.
That wasnt hard racing, bump and run, using some up. It was egregiously bad driving by a driver thats statistically one of worse restarters on grid.
He dumped aimerola for the 500 these rules wernt in place hes wrecked people for 3 of his 5 wins in 20 years he cant win clean he oly knows how to wreck people and the rules dont apply to austin and grandpa
blaney wrecked Newman in the 500 too
Kids shouldn't be in the racecar while its running 9n track ever. Kids just shouldn't be permitted on the racetrack ever when theres any cars around
Kids can be in the grandstands but not in the pits. I'd rather they stay in the motorcoach or in the infield.
11 g😊t l😮😮se!
This ending's uproar is almost the same as Dale's rattling of Terry's cage at Bristol. The results should be the same, no penalty.
Right on! “I didn’t mean to spin him only rattle his cage”.
You falter Austin and there's no way you should have ever done that and most drivers and when they accidentally wreck someone they apologized he acted like it was the greatest move in the world and it's ridiculous 90% of the drivers would never do that and it's just a b******* move
I'm proud of what Austin Dillon did. Not many are courageous and daring to pull off such a move.
@@iankhan4614 I don't know about proud of it. Maybe the move on Joey was an iffy move,but the one on Denny was definitely a desperate and bad move. He got into victory lane one way or the other
@@paulkribbs1701 There is no way that he was going to point his way in. So if you see an opportunity in front of you, you can't be nice. You have to be aggressive. If you have to ram people out of the way, and then deal with the consequences later on, so be it. That was probably Austin's only chance this year to win.
@@iankhan4614 I get it,but you can't just be wrecking anybody all the time to win. Good for Austin n his team. He did what he had to do. There will be payback and this will just get out of control if it hasn't already
@@paulkribbs1701 OK Truex Jr didn't retaliate on Logano after Martinsville 2018. So if they feel like they owe Austin Dillon, that's hogwash. They race people hard, but don't like being race hard back. Double standards.
Saw someone on one of Kenny Wallace’s videos comment they wanted the win taken away, Dillon given a 2 lap penalty and suspended 2 races, the crew chief and spotter for the 3 suspended for the rest of the season, driver and owner docked 100 points, and a combined $250k fine between the driver, crew chief, and the team. They did admit they hate RCR so……
Per past precedents that would be the appropriate punishment. Intent was clear when spotter told him to wreck the 11 and Austin even admitted to intentionally wrecking him in the post race. So that 1 race for that and 1 race for the right hook.
Wow 🤣 they didn't have to say they hate RCR it kinda shows with those penalties
Honestly. Id be cool with the playoff birth heing taken away. That way to win was a joke just because of the right hook. I could care less about the logano part butright hooking into a wall is unacceptable. Plus the SMT even shows the insane steering input austin used.
@@tylerpowers453finally someone with a decent take in these comments. Everyone acting like him dumping TWO people off back to back after he lost the restart is acceptable is baffling to me.
@@jwheezy6999 agreed 1000% remember earlier in loganos career i think it was arco or late model he got a win taken away from him for flat out destroying who he was racing
If any driver can get away with this, it makes NASCAR look like WWE. It might be entertaining, but it's not legit racing - it's just bumper cars at high speed. The playoff format needs adjustment.
everyother Race series in the world thinks youguys are a joke.
Did the “system” cause him to lose the lead on the restart oh wait no… stop blaming the system
Amen
kyle larson s following Gordon footsteps. Great driver, bring spotrs and fans tog, and getting booed lol
What about the time Kevin Harvick wrecked the field at talladega when he had transmission issues just so he could move into the next race.
How many times has Joey logano done the same thing. This type thing has been done ever since NASCAR has been running.
Zero times he or the 11 have right hooked anyone for a win. I can't even think of a time when the 22 blatantly over drove the corner just to clean the leader out. Has he used the bump and run or moved people? Yup. Over drove the corner to clean someone out or right hook? Nope. And I can't stand the 11 or 22, so.....
No one in the history of nascar has intentionally wrecked 2 cars that got past them fair and square in the last corner of a race. Stop lying.
Blame the Format for these desperate measures @bUdDh1stPsYcHo
@michaelrodgers994 really? Are nascar drivers politicians now? Totally unaccountable for their actions? Blaming the format when a driver clearly crosses a line is a cop out.
Never. And I know you are gonna say what about this race and what about that race but I don't think in Cup, Joey ever was four to five car lengths back to wreck someone. The closest thing was the Toyota All-star Challenge at Irwindale. And he got DQd all the way back to last place
I say dont change a thing
Dillon held his line. Denny did not. Denny likes to position his car so there is contact to right rear. But he never says a word when he wins with these dirty tactics. His taken several wins from Larson using these tactics J/S
They used to race like this all the time till we started getting offended by everything
Take Kaitlyn off the show. She brings nothing but annoying comments to the show.
He won't make the final 4 joey will get him back at the right time 😂 he will get knock out of the play offs
Absolutely for sure! Someone will definitely take good care of Austin. You can count on that.