Very cool, LOVE the enthusiasm...takes me back a half century when I first became involved in machinery design and building, things were much more simple when we didn't have to worry about weight...WONDERFUL project.
I noticed you’re mig welding the fuselage. I’ve always been told/read that you want to tig or oxyacetylene weld 4130. I Am building a scratch built bearhawk 5 up in rapid city SD and was wondering if there was anything special you’re doing to mig welding it. I’d rather mig weld as I have more experience doing it
Mig to tack, tig to finish in a lot of places... although some gets mig'd completely I believe. (I can't tell you what is what off hand as Clint has that info. I can weld pretty well overall mig and tig, but he is a welder by trade so he's way ahead of me there). The guys who took over the production side, are doing some pretty extensive testing to find out just how much difference there is between mig'ing and tig'ing these fuselages.. will be interesting to see those results.
So sitting here watching the STOL stuff and wondering where you have been, I've watched this one before, but it seems to be the latest you have published if you are not too busy how about some updates?
Excited for you Todd. Just make sure you have access to panels, pulleys, and all interior parts after you have the fabric on ! Otherwise working on anything becomes a royal pain. Been there done that on commercial and experimental airplanes.
@@GravityKnightFlying Though your tail spring arrangement will be different, one tip I got from the Cub guys was to leave the fabric around the spring attach point open, making that critical and often abused area real easy to inspect, clear lexan panels would be another way to do it. If you have to take a inspection panel off, it may get ignored.
@@portnuefflyer good ideas all... I'm generally pretty good about inspecting things a lot. I've worn out cowl screws, quarter turns, receptacles etc. on both airplanes I've owned from pulling the cowl so often. Some of that is/was mods, but also a lot of maint. and looking things over. I figure I put myself in a lot of risky terrain, I should at least do what I can on the ground. With that being said, things can get overlooked when your focus is on one end of the airplane. We are doing removable panels on the boot cowl to make working on the pedals,brakes,panel wiring etc. much much easier... I am so excited about this.... and the fuel tank skins will be removable for working in those bays as well.
I''ll be the Devil's Advocate (had to think of something I didn't like, it was hard!) : the door is too small, the fact there is only one doesn't help, I'll never forget after I let Jim Richmond of cubCrafters ride my ebike I carry in the S-7S, then trying to see how it would fit in a X-Cub, it wouldn't! I looked him right in the eye and asked, "then what good is it?!" I tried to flip the front seat and found it didn't tilt either. The big doors/door (I only use one, 2 small doors wouldn't aid getting the bike in) on the 7 are something we take for granted, and I am assuming the BLT has a similar sized opening as a Cub. None of this matters of course if you don't carry a 55 pound ebike like I do, and the great thing about working with Clint is he is open to mods. Leaning way over to finagle it in would be a backbreaker, with the 7's big door I can lift it "properly" and easily. If me, I'd want a custom huge rear baggage bay door, bike sized, but that's probably no doable. You will need to start a lottery for it's final weight, I'll go first 1080 pounds.
I'm going to get some measurements and look at this a little closer.... I don't have an ebike now, but I absolutely want to get one for the traveler down the road. You got me started on that idea seeing what you do with the 7.. and for all the places guys like us go, it would be so nice to have, to motor around once on the ground. I'm glad you brought this up! .... weight wise it should be about 950 empty. The first prototype came out to about 970, and he said he's pretty sure he can shave a decent chunk off that on mine. Now with the shocked rear wheel and larger fork/tire back there it might eat into that savings a bit. But sub 970 still should happen. He builds them pretty light. The 172 wing version with a sportsman, 31's and O-360 was 1040 for comparison. His wing is lighter, and the titan of course saves a little over the 360. -T
@@GravityKnightFlying Not to brag (much) but the bike I have is the baddest bike for carrying in a plane I know of. Longest range, quickest deployment, highest quality, fastest AND also lowest geared for max torque, thanks to the Rohloff geared hub (though that alone cost more than the bike itself, worth it). I only mention that to maybe get you not to settle for a "toy" bike, one with 16 or 20" tires for instance. As a fer instance: I rode mine from Johnson Creek to the old Stebnite mine site, about 25 miles round trip with a major elevation gain, I didn't want something just good for a mile down and back a paved road, like the Walmart ype cheapies, though anything is better than nothing. I estimated high on purpose the weight, prove me wrong! triple digits would be great.
I’m a regular Ebike rider, there’s a number of foldable back country e-bikes and don’t for get there’s a number of grunty e-scooters with a massive range.
@@robw4ltz408 None come close to the riding performance (and very compact foldability and resulting compactness) of a Montague with a 1300 watt mid drive motor and a Rohloff geared hub, just saying. Which is also the most expensive setup by far, so you get what you pay for as usual I've also found the range quoted in advertisments are massively optimistic FWIW. But I'll say it again, ANY wheeled thing hugely expands the fun factor of owning a small plane. In my case, I can carry 12 gallons of mogas on the folding trailer the Montague easily tows, I haven't burned a drop of Avgas in the last 3500 hours.
I need to get a 29 inch hardtail mountain bike into my plane, the wheels come off and the frame is not that big, not an ebike so it only weighs 21 pounds. My mission is to bike in all those wild places, bringing my bike is an integral part of the experience. Hopefully, that can be accommodated since I put my name in one the Badlandstol site. The sleeping area in the back is also excellent and important if you're not able to set up a tent, as in sleeping at an airport that you got to late in the day to refuel and you can't really leave to sleep in your tent in the wild. They won't let you pitch your tent on the ramp, but if you sleep in your plane they'll never know 🙂
Carbon fiber floorboards? Nice. The plywood cargo bay floor I have when I pull the passenger seat of my S-7S is one of my favorite mods, and I'd do the same if I was building a BLT. It's like the difference between a standard pickup bed and a custom built flatbed, in utility, at least if you often carry a lot of a gear. Just what you want to hear, another mod that will soak up more time! Sleeping in the plane IS great, but all your gear spends the night outside, still worth doing though. I just carried a spare tarp to cover it all when I was sleeping in my first 7. I got woke up by cops one night, they thought they had came upon a robbery in process, seeing the gear outside the plane! We all laughed, when I refused to show them "my license and registration!"
@@GravityKnightFlying I fell asleep in my old 7 one night at Lower Loon, AFTER having a very close encounter with a bear that day. I had a dream that I had failed to close the doors, woke up, and the doors were indeed open! Of course you'll have bear proof fabric?!
Not certified, been welding since I was around 7 or so. Dad taught me to mig/stick/braze, he owns a machine shop, taught myself to tig a few years back… still have room for improvement there, but decent. Wouldn’t claim to be on the level of a pro like Clint, who is certified, but done a LOT of welding over the years.
@@GravityKnightFlying Just asking because you want those welds to hold. I’m instrument, multi engine, land and sea rated. Trained in a 172, bought and flew a 210, and Beech Baron.
Curious, Are you tacking with mig, then finish welding it tig, or doing it all mig? I always thought tig made stronger welds? I seen Clint doing some small pieces tig. They are prettier welds of course, but nobody will see most of them anyway I guess ! lol
Nice to see the wing strut mounts now triangulated. I've built foam and carbon ribs but mine are triangulated. Sure, you can't do that where fuel tanks are going but why give up the power of the triangle? FYI, you can improve bond strength to XPS foam by sanding with 80 grit and using a skim coat of microballoons and ground glass before laying the reinforcement onto the foam. Lay some carbon or glass as cap strips for a big increase in strength plus some unidirectional carbon for even more strength.
I'm told by september at the latest... the project has been delayed several times by about a year and a half due to various reasons, so I hope it comes together by then. We'll see....
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The Wright brothers would have a field day hanging out in your shop, for sure!
I’ve got to catch up on your vids I forgot about you till that last vid came out you got a lot I missed cool 👍👍👍
Very cool, LOVE the enthusiasm...takes me back a half century when I first became involved in machinery design and building, things were much more simple when we didn't have to worry about weight...WONDERFUL project.
I noticed you’re mig welding the fuselage. I’ve always been told/read that you want to tig or oxyacetylene weld 4130. I Am building a scratch built bearhawk 5 up in rapid city SD and was wondering if there was anything special you’re doing to mig welding it. I’d rather mig weld as I have more experience doing it
Mig to tack, tig to finish in a lot of places... although some gets mig'd completely I believe. (I can't tell you what is what off hand as Clint has that info. I can weld pretty well overall mig and tig, but he is a welder by trade so he's way ahead of me there). The guys who took over the production side, are doing some pretty extensive testing to find out just how much difference there is between mig'ing and tig'ing these fuselages.. will be interesting to see those results.
So sitting here watching the STOL stuff and wondering where you have been, I've watched this one before, but it seems to be the latest you have published if you are not too busy how about some updates?
Excited for you Todd.
Just make sure you have access to panels, pulleys, and all interior parts after you have the fabric on !
Otherwise working on anything becomes a royal pain.
Been there done that on commercial and experimental airplanes.
good point.... I'm a big fan of being able to work on something.. lots of inspection plates!
@@GravityKnightFlying Though your tail spring arrangement will be different, one tip I got from the Cub guys was to leave the fabric around the spring attach point open, making that critical and often abused area real easy to inspect, clear lexan panels would be another way to do it. If you have to take a inspection panel off, it may get ignored.
@@portnuefflyer good ideas all... I'm generally pretty good about inspecting things a lot. I've worn out cowl screws, quarter turns, receptacles etc. on both airplanes I've owned from pulling the cowl so often. Some of that is/was mods, but also a lot of maint. and looking things over. I figure I put myself in a lot of risky terrain, I should at least do what I can on the ground. With that being said, things can get overlooked when your focus is on one end of the airplane. We are doing removable panels on the boot cowl to make working on the pedals,brakes,panel wiring etc. much much easier... I am so excited about this.... and the fuel tank skins will be removable for working in those bays as well.
This is awesome my friend!! But we need more Badlands flying!! I know $$$$$
Count me in, I think I found the plane for my missions!
This is great to see!
I’m really liking this build and enjoying the videos on it. Pretty impressive.
I''ll be the Devil's Advocate (had to think of something I didn't like, it was hard!) : the door is too small, the fact there is only one doesn't help, I'll never forget after I let Jim Richmond of cubCrafters ride my ebike I carry in the S-7S, then trying to see how it would fit in a X-Cub, it wouldn't! I looked him right in the eye and asked, "then what good is it?!" I tried to flip the front seat and found it didn't tilt either. The big doors/door (I only use one, 2 small doors wouldn't aid getting the bike in) on the 7 are something we take for granted, and I am assuming the BLT has a similar sized opening as a Cub. None of this matters of course if you don't carry a 55 pound ebike like I do, and the great thing about working with Clint is he is open to mods. Leaning way over to finagle it in would be a backbreaker, with the 7's big door I can lift it "properly" and easily. If me, I'd want a custom huge rear baggage bay door, bike sized, but that's probably no doable. You will need to start a lottery for it's final weight, I'll go first 1080 pounds.
I'm going to get some measurements and look at this a little closer.... I don't have an ebike now, but I absolutely want to get one for the traveler down the road. You got me started on that idea seeing what you do with the 7.. and for all the places guys like us go, it would be so nice to have, to motor around once on the ground. I'm glad you brought this up! .... weight wise it should be about 950 empty. The first prototype came out to about 970, and he said he's pretty sure he can shave a decent chunk off that on mine. Now with the shocked rear wheel and larger fork/tire back there it might eat into that savings a bit. But sub 970 still should happen. He builds them pretty light. The 172 wing version with a sportsman, 31's and O-360 was 1040 for comparison. His wing is lighter, and the titan of course saves a little over the 360. -T
@@GravityKnightFlying Not to brag (much) but the bike I have is the baddest bike for carrying in a plane I know of. Longest range, quickest deployment, highest quality, fastest AND also lowest geared for max torque, thanks to the Rohloff geared hub (though that alone cost more than the bike itself, worth it). I only mention that to maybe get you not to settle for a "toy" bike, one with 16 or 20" tires for instance. As a fer instance: I rode mine from Johnson Creek to the old Stebnite mine site, about 25 miles round trip with a major elevation gain, I didn't want something just good for a mile down and back a paved road, like the Walmart ype cheapies, though anything is better than nothing. I estimated high on purpose the weight, prove me wrong! triple digits would be great.
I’m a regular Ebike rider, there’s a number of foldable back country e-bikes and don’t for get there’s a number of grunty e-scooters with a massive range.
@@robw4ltz408 None come close to the riding performance (and very compact foldability and resulting compactness) of a Montague with a 1300 watt mid drive motor and a Rohloff geared hub, just saying. Which is also the most expensive setup by far, so you get what you pay for as usual I've also found the range quoted in advertisments are massively optimistic FWIW. But I'll say it again, ANY wheeled thing hugely expands the fun factor of owning a small plane. In my case, I can carry 12 gallons of mogas on the folding trailer the Montague easily tows, I haven't burned a drop of Avgas in the last 3500 hours.
I need to get a 29 inch hardtail mountain bike into my plane, the wheels come off and the frame is not that big, not an ebike so it only weighs 21 pounds. My mission is to bike in all those wild places, bringing my bike is an integral part of the experience. Hopefully, that can be accommodated since I put my name in one the Badlandstol site. The sleeping area in the back is also excellent and important if you're not able to set up a tent, as in sleeping at an airport that you got to late in the day to refuel and you can't really leave to sleep in your tent in the wild. They won't let you pitch your tent on the ramp, but if you sleep in your plane they'll never know 🙂
Any updates on the Traveler Todd?
Carbon fiber floorboards? Nice. The plywood cargo bay floor I have when I pull the passenger seat of my S-7S is one of my favorite mods, and I'd do the same if I was building a BLT. It's like the difference between a standard pickup bed and a custom built flatbed, in utility, at least if you often carry a lot of a gear. Just what you want to hear, another mod that will soak up more time! Sleeping in the plane IS great, but all your gear spends the night outside, still worth doing though. I just carried a spare tarp to cover it all when I was sleeping in my first 7. I got woke up by cops one night, they thought they had came upon a robbery in process, seeing the gear outside the plane! We all laughed, when I refused to show them "my license and registration!"
🤣 that is funny!! .... the back may not be super comfortable, but I will feel slightly better sleeping in bear country vs. a tent... slightly......
@@GravityKnightFlying I fell asleep in my old 7 one night at Lower Loon, AFTER having a very close encounter with a bear that day. I had a dream that I had failed to close the doors, woke up, and the doors were indeed open! Of course you'll have bear proof fabric?!
Very excited to see your build, and the whole design aspects of this new plane.
So you're a certified welder?
Not certified, been welding since I was around 7 or so. Dad taught me to mig/stick/braze, he owns a machine shop, taught myself to tig a few years back… still have room for improvement there, but decent. Wouldn’t claim to be on the level of a pro like Clint, who is certified, but done a LOT of welding over the years.
@@GravityKnightFlying
Just asking because you want those welds to hold. I’m instrument, multi engine, land and sea rated. Trained in a 172, bought and flew a 210, and Beech Baron.
Curious, Are you tacking with mig, then finish welding it tig, or doing it all mig? I always thought tig made stronger welds? I seen Clint doing some small pieces tig. They are prettier welds of course, but nobody will see most of them anyway I guess ! lol
We tack with the mig, not as critical areas we finish with mig. Critical areas get tig
@@leviglines3936 gotcha
Nice to see the wing strut mounts now triangulated. I've built foam and carbon ribs but mine are triangulated. Sure, you can't do that where fuel tanks are going but why give up the power of the triangle? FYI, you can improve bond strength to XPS foam by sanding with 80 grit and using a skim coat of microballoons and ground glass before laying the reinforcement onto the foam. Lay some carbon or glass as cap strips for a big increase in strength plus some unidirectional carbon for even more strength.
I'm excited to see how it works. When are you expecting it to be finished?
NEVER ask a plane builder that!
I'm told by september at the latest... the project has been delayed several times by about a year and a half due to various reasons, so I hope it comes together by then. We'll see....
So no fabric on this plane?
Awesome!!!!!